h1-discussion

[hollow hawk]

open mindedness, you should try it!

[brazen lagoon]

Have you actually tried using stuff before whining about it

[hardy kernel]

Eris is THE speedrunner weapon

[hollow hawk]

yeah but eris sucks

dont you understand

[half zephyr]

DC adds 1 blue heart to the enemies, meaning your first hit doesn’t count

[hollow hawk]

it needs you to be close to enemies

[half zephyr]

That’s all

[brazen lagoon]

Yeah anything that needs skill is bad

[hardy kernel]

oh yeah that one

[half zephyr]

DC 2 adds 2 hearts

[uncut ore]

I cant even enter it, and if I enter it I have to do what equates to a boss but hitless, and even then its not that good rewards, and worse of all hades mocks me if I lose

[uncut ore]

that doesnt seem so bad

[half zephyr]

It’s not a boss tho

[uncut ore]

esp with rapid fire weapons like gun

[hollow hawk]

@hardy kernel we're joking btw, dont take any of my messages seriously lol im just repeating what morcrux said earlier

[hardy kernel]

Thats a good one

[half zephyr]

It’s regular enemies

[hardy kernel]

oh i know lol

[half zephyr]

The reward is equal to a miniboss

The enemies are not

[brazen lagoon]

Anything that actually requires effort on my end is impossible and too hard and I should just be able to win every time because I deserve it waaaaaaa

[hollow hawk]

15 titan blood?

[uncut ore]

and anyways

[hollow hawk]

egregious!

[uncut ore]

what does it matter I literally cant enter it

[hollow hawk]

then why buy it lol

dont you check the wiki for everything

[half zephyr]

He didn’t know

[hollow hawk]

and im pretty sure you asked about erebus gates before here

[half zephyr]

Didn’t see that it was tied to the pact of punishment

[brazen lagoon]

You mean I have to spend stuff to buy stuff?

Bruh

[uncut ore]

yeah thats what I said that I wasted 5 diamonds

[hardy kernel]

Have you tried any other aspects smorcrux?

[hollow hawk]

yeah, but at lvl 1

lol

so he hates all of them

[uncut ore]

I cant afford enough to max out any other aspect now 😦

[brazen lagoon]

I've tried this thing once at its weakest so it's bad lol

[fringe elbow]

why do i have to play game to beat game!! 😡

[hollow hawk]

eris rail? more like garbage rail amirite

[half zephyr]

I think it even says something like “The Pact of Punishment is key to accessing the outer reaches of Erebus” under the gates in the shop

[hardy kernel]

Level one Posiedon sword is imo 1000% better than level 5 zag aspect

[uncut ore]

I didnt know it meant 5 heat

[half zephyr]

It would’ve meant you needed heat to access it tho

If the pact is key it means having to use it

[hardy kernel]

Worst weapon in the game

[hollow hawk]

ikr

[brazen lagoon]

Easily

So bad lol

[hardy kernel]

Level one guan yu is 1000% better

[hollow hawk]

i dont get why people obsess over it??

its like 15 titan blood my guy

[brazen lagoon]

Like you literally have to go near the enemies

[hollow hawk]

guan yu? more like overpowered pls fix

[brazen lagoon]

How is that viable at all

[half zephyr]

Is it heading into mean territory now?

It’s a nonstop wall of text

[hollow hawk]

probably yeah

[hardy kernel]

it's just good fun imo

[half zephyr]

He isn’t even in the chat anymore

[brazen lagoon]

I am just slightly frustrated

[hardy kernel]

Yeah its a bit annoying

[half zephyr]

Same, but still

[brazen lagoon]

Trying to talk to this person is like trying to talk to a brick wall

But eh its over now so I'll stop

Don't wanna get yeeted by the mods

[hardy kernel]

Real talk, I hate guan yu aspect so much

[half zephyr]

Preach

[brazen lagoon]

Don't really see the appeal of it tbh

[hollow hawk]

nah guan yu is decent

once you know how to use it, its decent

[hardy kernel]

I have it fully upgraded and it still sucks imo

[fringe elbow]

i havent used it yet

[brazen lagoon]

Like I get its strong and stuff but I kinda like health

[fringe elbow]

spear is my worst weapon i think

[hardy kernel]

you basically NEED thick skin

[hollow hawk]

try watching some of astaos' VODs of guan yu on twitch

[fringe elbow]

went straight for hades aspect

[hollow hawk]

hes a very good player with it

hes currently attempting to clear 50 heat with it

[brazen lagoon]

High confidence guan yu sounds fun

[hollow hawk]

hes gotten uptil styx iirc

[humble lintel]

athena dd doesnt help if i have max right

[hollow hawk]

yep

[humble lintel]

ok ty

[carmine ravine]

Yall shouldn't talk down to the poor guy tho

[hardy kernel]

I hated achilles spear because I used the throw button for retreiving as well

Spear is my least favorite weapon

[brazen lagoon]

Achilles is pretty fun

[half zephyr]

Bow for me

[brazen lagoon]

I like hades quite a bit too

[uncut ore]

currently attempting to clear room 1 with 50 heat

[fringe elbow]

im not good at mobility with spear, i tend to stand still using special lol

[brazen lagoon]

Shield is def my least fav weapon

[hardy kernel]

I LOVE bow

Chiron bow is soo good

[carmine ravine]

I dont think shield a bad wep but my slowest times always with shields

[fringe elbow]

rail is my fav i think

[hardy kernel]

Artemis special aphro attack with their duo boon

so op

on chiron

[uncut ore]

opposite

[carmine ravine]

Rail is just easy win

[brazen lagoon]

I just feel the shield is way too slow and clunky

[fringe elbow]

chiron or rama for bow? cant decide

[brazen lagoon]

And the damage output isn't high enough to justify the slowness

[carmine ravine]

Rama is very good

[half zephyr]

I think my fastest used to be w shield

[uncut ore]

but you can literally just sit there and block asterius charge

[brazen lagoon]

Definitely rama imo

[hardy kernel]

I love ||Lucifer rail with Demeter attack|| I don't use hellfire tho

[brazen lagoon]

I don't need to

[half zephyr]

That doesn’t make it faster

[uncut ore]

it has insane damage blocking

[carmine ravine]

Why wait when u can dodge and kill lol

[hollow hawk]

that doesnt matter once you get good enough at the game to be able to dodge anything

[brazen lagoon]

I can beat them with my eyes closed at this point and I'm not too concerned with damage

[half zephyr]

Yes, when you get to a certain point you don’t need to block as often anymore

[hollow hawk]

well, almost anything

[hardy kernel]

One time I just got vengeful mood with shield and just camped ||Hades||

[hollow hawk]

boiling blood still haunts me

[hardy kernel]

I hate it

[half zephyr]

[brazen lagoon]

Whenever I get hit with boiling blood I just flee

[uncut ore]

I literally cleared all of tartarus and aphodel without taking damage

its like +60% dps with pierced butterfly

very cool

[hardy kernel]

Good for you

[uncut ore]

with shield

[brazen lagoon]

I run like my life depends on it

[fringe elbow]

ive found adter switching from multi-dash to damage boost dash in the mirror, ive gotten better at timing dashes to avoid stuff

[hollow hawk]

because it does lol

[carmine ravine]

Sounds low heat to me

[brazen lagoon]

That is true

[half zephyr]

I don’t really use my dash to avoid things

[hardy kernel]

yeah

[fringe elbow]

but i always pray for hermes dashes lol

[hardy kernel]

same

[half zephyr]

I use my dash to get to enemies

[brazen lagoon]

Hades is like 'why are you running'

[hollow hawk]

@brazen lagoon btw, have you tried zeus shield

[brazen lagoon]

Ye it's my fav shield

[half zephyr]

Beyblade

[hollow hawk]

i used to hate shield before i discovered the magic of zeus shield

[brazen lagoon]

Still don't use it too often tho

[hollow hawk]

hm

[hardy kernel]

Cause the final boss's spin attack is so annoying without an extra dash

[hollow hawk]

i love zag shield too honestly

[hardy kernel]

eh

[hollow hawk]

with pulv blow, its just so much dmg

[hollow hawk]

if you time it right, you can iframe the spin

by dashing into the spin, rather than out of it

[fringe elbow]

YES. whenever i make it there without an extra hermes dash im ready for pain

[carmine ravine]

When i use zeus shield i just click throw twice and zip around the battlefield

[hollow hawk]

because your dash provides some frames when youre invincible

so if you learn the timing

[hardy kernel]

I know but it's definitely easier with an extra dash

[hollow hawk]

oh yeah for sure

[carmine ravine]

Use ruthless to train urself

[hardy kernel]

I know that, but it's just soo much easier

[half zephyr]

I get out w 2 dashes

I’m always on the move

[fringe elbow]

is there a cap on how many dashes you can get?

[hardy kernel]

Getting demeter legendary was so annoying

[half zephyr]

8 or 9?

[hardy kernel]

how?

[fringe elbow]

lmao that would be insane with athena dash

[half zephyr]

Need gilga I think

[fringe elbow]

always invulnerable

[carmine ravine]

Dem legend is very cool on bosses

[hardy kernel]

Ik

It was so cool to see them just get reaped lol

but it's so annoying to get

you need such good rng

[brazen lagoon]

Dem legendary is very fun

[carmine ravine]

U need good rng to get ME too you dont say

[hardy kernel]

I was trying to get it for the prophecy, but it took me three attempts to get the rng

[brazen lagoon]

Just chilling and then you hear 'FREEZE TO DEATH'

[half zephyr]

Huh

[hardy kernel]

I had dem keepsake for the entirety of asphodel and elysium, and NOT ONE DEMETER BOON

[half zephyr]

I need to make dinner

Bai

[brazen lagoon]

And I need to sleep

Cya

[hardy kernel]

what timezone are you guys in?

[brazen lagoon]

Gmt

[hardy kernel]

It's 11 am for me

[brazen lagoon]

12am

[hardy kernel]

oh wow. cya!

[half zephyr]

CET

It’s 17:11 atm

[uncut ore]

18:11 for me

[half zephyr]

I’ll have to make some quick food

[hardy kernel]

bye! cya

[carmine ravine]

Its 12am here

[hardy kernel]

how are you all gmt?

[uncut ore]

are you in the middle of the atlantic?

[carmine ravine]

No in asia

[uncut ore]

oh west canada nvm

wait what

oh sorry I mixed up 12PM and 12AM

[carmine ravine]

[brazen lagoon]

Same

[fringe elbow]

1pm here

[uncut ore]

pretty insane that its 18:13 and 0:13 in the same continent

[signal aspen]

its called time zones

[uncut ore]

yeah but like

asia is big

[signal aspen]

yeah

[hardy kernel]

lol

[signal aspen]

so they have a lot of time zones

[fringe elbow]

when do my victory screens start getting those cool borders around them? 🥺

[brazen lagoon]

You need to buy them

[signal aspen]

when you buy everything in the work orders section

then you will unlock them

[carmine ravine]

Asia is like most of the world

[fringe elbow]

ahh cool

[signal aspen]

but you still have to buy them

[hardy kernel]

wdym borders?

[signal aspen]

go to victory boasting

you will see cool themes

[uncut ore]

things that cause existential crisees for me:

1. how obcenely tiny but also massive earth is
2. how I can literally walk 2 meters to a store and buy MEAT that came halfway across the world for like insanely cheap
3. how there are 7 billion people (!!!!)

[fringe elbow]

yes

[hardy kernel]

Oh ok

[uncut ore]

yeah like I once made a map where like 100 squere km had most of the world population

idk why thats amazing, but it just... is

[hardy kernel]

I thought I bought them all? Why don't I get themes? 😦

[carmine ravine]

Wdym

[hardy kernel]

I thought I purchased all the work orders so why don't I have victory screens available?

[signal aspen]

have you finished the main story

that might be it

[carmine ravine]

Some shop items dont appear until u fulfil its requirements

[hardy kernel]

Wdym? where I have to get the plan to unfold?

[signal aspen]

give nectar to gods

[hardy kernel]

By giving the olympians a bunch of nectar?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[carmine ravine]

Theres a prophecy for that

Just check that

[fringe elbow]

is that what bonding with the gods does

[hardy kernel]

I have that prophecy

[signal aspen]

so fulfill it

[hardy kernel]

I'm working on it

I only have ten prophecys left

[uncut ore]

what

how

[signal aspen]

i have like 4

[uncut ore]

I still havent done 1 prophecy to unlock all of a cerain god's boons

[fringe elbow]

well, it takes time

[hardy kernel]

well, play the game

[fringe elbow]

youll get there

[half zephyr]

You haven’t gotten that far yet

[fringe elbow]

take boons with scrolls on them

[uncut ore]

the only 2 good prophecies I did was 1 where I spent a bunch of gems on random house upgrades to get 4 diamonds (which I wasted on erebus gates), and one where I beat the game with all the bad mirror upgrades to get 8 titan blood

it was really fun

like

I had to be super careful cus I only have 1 dd per boss fight

and I also got to try out a new build

[opal oar]

oh are erebus gates not good?

[signal aspen]

they are

[half zephyr]

They are

[opal oar]

i want diamonds for erebus gates for onion

idk what you do in erebus

[hardy kernel]

They're great

[opal oar]

i just want an onion

[uncut ore]

and there were a few things I kept, like +10% duo chance rather than +20% epic, and +60% darkness healing instead of +3 healing per room

[half zephyr]

Avoid getting hit

That’s all

[carmine ravine]

Dont get hit

[signal aspen]

yeah

[opal oar]

and then I get an onion?

[signal aspen]

kill things and dont get hit

[half zephyr]

Defeat enemies, but don’t get hit

[signal aspen]

no

[uncut ore]

yeah but only if ur gonna play on relatively high heat

[signal aspen]

if you get hit you get an onion

[opal oar]

oh :(

[half zephyr]

No, that’s if you do get hit

[opal oar]

Oh!

I'm good at that

[half zephyr]

Lol

[carmine ravine]

[half zephyr]

Great attitude!

[opal oar]

I'm playing to my strengths :P

[fringe elbow]

also you cant use them until at least || 5 heat ||, so if you dont have that yet you might wanna save your diamonds

[half zephyr]

Neat

[hardy kernel]

I have daedalus hammer upgrades for all but the sword, The Queens plan, Musician and muse, End to torment, harsh conditions, and the gift of song left ugh

[opal oar]

oh

[signal aspen]

gift of song is easy

[opal oar]

i don't yet, but I also don't have any diamonds right now

[half zephyr]

There’s ways to get more

[signal aspen]

get the lyre and hit it until you learn to play

[hardy kernel]

Seriously?

[signal aspen]

yeah

just hit it after every escape attempt

[half zephyr]

You also have to speak with Orpheus once in a while

[uncut ore]

wait what

[half zephyr]

Ye

[signal aspen]

and after 20 runs you probably have learned to play

[uncut ore]

I gave him tons of nectar I got him to sing again

[grand crystal]

and get some orphy dialogue

you have to hit the lyre 210 times

[uncut ore]

what

and I get an extra dd?

[signal aspen]

end to torment requires you to max out sisyphus, talk to nyx, go to admin chamber, use 3 diamonds to free him

[fringe elbow]

its a mirror upgrade

[half zephyr]

If you lose the sd in a room w Athena boon she might give you an sd back

[signal aspen]

yeah

[grand crystal]

what no my internet is laggy so the lyre and dd's arent related ;w;

[uncut ore]

wait what

[half zephyr]

But then when you exit the chamber you get your sd

[grand crystal]

just to clarify

[signal aspen]

you can actually get 5 DDs with SD

[grand crystal]

but you 3dds 1sd

[half zephyr]

Turning that Athena sd into a dd

[uncut ore]

ur telling me orpheus can give me 5 dds

?

[grand crystal]

and thars just from mirror

[grand crystal]

nonono

[signal aspen]

1 normal Sd 2 athena DDs 1 chaos DD and 1 skelly DD

[half zephyr]

No, different conversations

[grand crystal]

the mirror

[fringe elbow]

thats why we’re saying keep going youll get stronger and do better with time lmao

not everything is just bad

[uncut ore]

chaos dd?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[half zephyr]

Someone else was asking about Orpheus prophecy

[grand crystal]

their legendary gives you a death defy

[signal aspen]

legendary boon from chaos

[half zephyr]

Their legendary

Gives an extra dd for the run

[signal aspen]

but i still havent gotten it for some reason

[half zephyr]

Then you have Skelly keepsake

[opal oar]

wait chaos is a boy?

[runic parrot]

their

[uncut ore]

dont think ive even gotten an epic from chaos

[half zephyr]

So you can have 5

[uncut ore]

wait why cant you get 5 dds from 3 dds from the mirror, skelly and chaos?

[fringe elbow]

you can

[runic parrot]

you can

[half zephyr]

Chaos is both & neither & everything at once

[signal aspen]

im pretty sure chaos is genderless

[opal oar]

ok!

[fringe elbow]

chaos is primordial soup

[opal oar]

mood

soup > gender

hands down

[runic parrot]

you can get 2 athena dd + 1 chaos dd + 1 skelly revive + 1 sd if you're lucky enough

[grand crystal]

yea but most runs i do i only get 2 sd

[uncut ore]

chaos is james charles

[runic parrot]

i wouldnt take the skelly one though

[grand crystal]

the base and one from athena

[half zephyr]

Chaos came before gender

[fringe elbow]

dont athena dd’s only replenish your mirror ones, not give you extra?

[uncut ore]

why not just use 3 dds from the mirror instead of 2 from athena and 1 dd?

[grand crystal]

yep

but with sd

[runic parrot]

because sd is better

[grand crystal]

you can abuse it

[fringe elbow]

oh, i havent used sd yet

[uncut ore]

I used to think sd was good but tbh not really

[half zephyr]

Sd is needed for some heats

[fringe elbow]

just skipped past it on the mirror

[grand crystal]

yea essentially if you die, take the athena dd replenish, and go to the next room youll get your base one back

[runic parrot]

sd is better if youre running with lasting consequences 4

[grand crystal]

its a funny lil trick that gives you another instead of replenish

[signal aspen]

technically with SD you can get 60 revives

[uncut ore]

oh yeah probably

[runic parrot]

not probably, definitely

[half zephyr]

It is

[runic parrot]

unless you're a god at dodging

[grand crystal]

its your only way to heal with lc4

[signal aspen]

yeah

[runic parrot]

no-hit runs 😳

[half zephyr]

Alas, zag isn’t Hermes

[grand crystal]

i mean i play with hl5 and lc4 and im fine ;/

[fringe elbow]

i havent gotten to high heats yet, im currently at around 5 with each weapon

[grand crystal]

not that hard to dodge

[fringe elbow]

i use them sporadically as they get dark thirst so theyre all around the same levels

[uncut ore]

but what happens if I hit orpheuses lyre 210 times?

[half zephyr]

We’ve already concluded that you’re not normal grandpa

[grand crystal]

;w;

[half zephyr]

Without talking to him in between?

You have to hit it more I guess

[grand crystal]

no

once you hit 210

[runic parrot]

results came in from the doctor, you've been diagnosed with hermes syndrome

[half zephyr]

Since you need to advance the convo with him no?

[grand crystal]

you just wait for dialogue

the number is seperate

[hardy kernel]

Can i just hit it a bunch?

[half zephyr]

Ah

[grand crystal]

and goes up regardless

[half zephyr]

I just hit it every now & then

[signal aspen]

you can but it will take you like 20 years

[half zephyr]

Still do at times

Just for fun

[fringe elbow]

does anything happen from nudging the skeleton statue

lol

[signal aspen]

nah i pet cerb every time if come back to the house

[grand crystal]

ive given up on petting cerb after i got his bond

since the animation is so long

[half zephyr]

Monster

[fringe elbow]

but hes the best boy

[half zephyr]

[fringe elbow]

offically

[grand crystal]

-_-

i just dont want to spend like 5 seconds watching te same animaton play out for the 100th tmie

[half zephyr]

You’re ded to me

[grand crystal]

:/

[half zephyr]

[grand crystal]

what can i do to fix this

[half zephyr]

Pet the dog

[grand crystal]

must i pet cerb

[fringe elbow]

Pet cerberus

[grand crystal]

every run

[half zephyr]

Pet him cuz he’s a good boi

[runic parrot]

the animation takes too long i agree

[half zephyr]

At least do it when he’s on the board!

[fringe elbow]

to atone for your sins you must use the collar

[runic parrot]

its cute the first 100 times

and its still cute after

[hardy kernel]

How do I do musician and muse

[runic parrot]

but it still takes too long

[half zephyr]

Unite them?
Talking

[uncut ore]

bruh its literally 5 seconds

[half zephyr]

And gifting nectar

And doing favour

And stuff

[hardy kernel]

Is it a work order?

[fringe elbow]

yeah keep pressing button

[half zephyr]

Ye

[grand crystal]

;w;

its a bad keepsake for how i play

[hardy kernel]

I got Euridice's song and gave it to orpheus

[half zephyr]

Oh you’ve got some way to go

[hardy kernel]

dang

[signal aspen]

lmao

[uncut ore]

btw

[fringe elbow]

just always go to her when the option is there

and talk to them every time

[hardy kernel]

ok

[humble lintel]

do these stairs lead anywhere? i just beat the main story i think https://imgur.com/a/Dj8WJHd

[uncut ore]

I was looking into how I do favours for charachters

[signal aspen]

nah

they lead to the outside

[hardy kernel]

What about end to torment?

[signal aspen]

which you cant go to from there

[uncut ore]

for basically every charachter you need to do favour for another charachter

[fringe elbow]

why the hell cant i send pictures here lol

[humble lintel]

oh rip

[hardy kernel]

I maxed out sisiphous

[half zephyr]

No one can

Image link is the way to go

[uncut ore]

no idea

[fringe elbow]

ahhhh

[grand crystal]

it leads to the front door that you never take again

[uncut ore]

send imgur links

[half zephyr]

I send discord links

Discord image links

[fringe elbow]

i bet it would miraculously not work when i tried to do it for some reason

[signal aspen]

see

[fringe elbow]

magic!!

[humble lintel]

oh is that the entrance in the mom cutscene

[grand crystal]

yep

and you never take the front door again

lowkey wish i could to start the run faster than the 2 loading screens

[fringe elbow]

i lol’d when || zag didnt know how to get back in ||

[humble lintel]

yeah that was pretty funny

[signal aspen]

yeah he dies when he wants to get back in

[charred anchor]

finally got all the legendary and duo boons!!

[signal aspen]

i havent done that yet

[humble lintel]

is there any more to the story now? i havent even got a companion yet so ik theres a bit more, but is there like a significant event like the end of the story

[signal aspen]

demeter refuses to give me her legendary

[humble lintel]

ive heard theres an epilouge

[signal aspen]

yeah

[hardy kernel]

Same I finished yesterday!

congrats!

[charred anchor]

that was the last one i got, was a pain in the ass

[hardy kernel]

Same!!!

[signal aspen]

uh...

you are a pain in the ass

[humble lintel]

damn

[charred anchor]

thanks 😊

[hardy kernel]

what lmao

[signal aspen]

they said that it was a pain in the ass

and you said same

[fringe elbow]

do they all have only 1 legendary?

[grand crystal]

anything else we can do for you??

[signal aspen]

no

[grand crystal]

pos and hermes have 2

[hardy kernel]

I think except for posieden and hermes

[grand crystal]

but hermes is cast dependant and big catch is a meme

[fringe elbow]

i had to turn down hermes legend earlier for the dash... i needed it

[hardy kernel]

I feel like whenever I use a dodge build, I never get dodge

[fringe elbow]

i just always use damage dash and hope i find a hermes bonus dash

[charred anchor]

greater evasion is my #2 most used boon (after divine dash)

[signal aspen]

mine is thunder flourish i think

something from zeus

when i was new to the game i always tried to get zeus

because i thought he was the best

[fringe elbow]

when i first started i always used ares artifact and used everything blade rift lol

[charred anchor]

when i started i always used the dog collar

[signal aspen]

same

i just gave it to cerb because i like dogs

i didnt know who else to give it to

and cerb is best boy

[charred anchor]

true

first person i gave nectar to was chaos i think

[grand crystal]

can we just say how much of a stroke of genius design cerb trinket is

like

its simple but hepful

[fringe elbow]

the first time i got to styx & || momentarily thought you had to fight him || i was like NO

[grand crystal]

and from a character most people nectar first

like

its so smart

[signal aspen]

i actually use cerb collar with guan yu

[grand crystal]

a useful but sub par once you get more

[signal aspen]

if i dont have enough health

[grand crystal]

its a starting trinket

and like

👌

game design is epic

[fringe elbow]

Is it good to use with curse slash or whatever

[grand crystal]

idk

i never take cerb trinket

[sage rapids]

its great with flurry slash

pick up Hermes's attack speed boon and heal at the speed of light

[fringe elbow]

i mean the dog collar to pair with curse slash

[sage rapids]

I think it's about 20 extra hp

[signal aspen]

yeah

[fringe elbow]

hm, yeah its the last hammer i need to use for sword and idk how to go about it

[grand crystal]

do speed build

like

flurry slash

zag sword

hermes attack

[sage rapids]

yep

[grand crystal]

so you can heal speed

[sage rapids]

just be careful

and dodge good

[fringe elbow]

ok 😄

im getting better at dodging, sometimes i still catch myself dashing into the green skull waves at hades lol

[rare bobcat]

Yeah it is usually better to dash the opposite direction they move

[fringe elbow]

i know
but panik

[grand crystal]

honestly those waves are very finicky

[rare bobcat]

Otherwise you just do what I do and dash into damage lol

[signal aspen]

yeah

[fringe elbow]

esp when you only have the 1 dash & theres green hand urns all around you, a wave coming for you and daddio is charging his spin at you

[signal aspen]

for some reason i keep getting hit by them

[fringe elbow]

CHOICES HAVE TO BE MADE

[signal aspen]

even though im good at dodging things

[grand crystal]

lol use iframes

[fringe elbow]

i try, ive just about got the hang of theseus & asterious where i can dash through most of their stuff

so i can usually make it to styx with all DD left

at the heat im at now, anyway. im sure things will change lol

[manic moat]

wait till you get ||extreme measures 3 and 4||

[fringe elbow]

im afraid

i just got used to || lernies new stage ||

[grand crystal]

em3 isnt hard, its just hectic

[signal aspen]

yeah

[half zephyr]

EM3 is fun

[hardy kernel]

I hate how in em3 ||theseus's missiles do 50 DAMAGE UGH||

[signal aspen]

bruh

dont get hit by them then

if you dont like damage then dont do that

[fringe elbow]

why didnt i think of that

[signal aspen]

yeah man

[manic moat]

they're actually fairly easy

to dodge

small radius and pretty slow imo

just dash around a lot

[hardy kernel]

I know but the first time I did it I was kind of overwhelmed

[fringe elbow]

cower with fear, blackguard!

[hardy kernel]

okay imma go eat lunch

I hate how theseus says that zag is a coward but constantly hides behind a shield It's like shut up

what a hypocrite

[signal aspen]

yeah

thats who he is

its his personality

[hardy kernel]

I hate him

[fringe elbow]

my favorite thesues line is YOU PUSTULE. I WILL RUN YOU THROUGH

[signal aspen]

im pretty sure supergiant wanted us to hate him

[fringe elbow]

it makes me lol in the middle of the fight

[half zephyr]

I just love his laughter

[hardy kernel]

He's not even difficult he's just annoying

[half zephyr]

He’s so happy with his chariot

[fringe elbow]

i dont even find him annoying hes hilarious

[half zephyr]

Same

[night cloud]

For how long does ||Eurydice sing?||

[half zephyr]

Forever

[hardy kernel]

as long as you're there

[night cloud]

I enjoy it so I'm waiting for it to end 😄

[fringe elbow]

as is legend

[night cloud]

Oh no lol

[half zephyr]

She’ll sing so long as you’re there to listen

[fringe elbow]

its so good

[uncut ore]

wait I dont understand

[hardy kernel]

I'm at the point in the story where theseus and asterius are ||having relationship issues lmao||

[uncut ore]

do achilles and nyx just leave?

[fringe elbow]

does the final run timer include moments of me messing around after the fights?

[half zephyr]

No

Achilles has time off

[signal aspen]

not after boss fights

[half zephyr]

And Nyx can do whatever she wants

[hardy kernel]

If the timer is running, then the timer is running

[half zephyr]

Best part

[night cloud]

I was watching a run and when ||Asterius died he said thank you|| I was like whaat? Does anyone know why

[half zephyr]

Magical girl Theseus is coming soon woo

[hardy kernel]

It's so hilarious

[signal aspen]

he probably hates theseus

[half zephyr]

Maybe he was thanking zag for a good fight

[hardy kernel]

I like asterius a lot

[signal aspen]

he is done putting up with theseus's stuff

[half zephyr]

Asterius

[night cloud]

Hahaha

[half zephyr]

Alas, he is the forever babysitter

[runic parrot]

i think its more in character for him to thank you because of the swell battle

not much to do in greek hero heaven after all

[hardy kernel]

Do you guys like ||Gilgamesh||?

[runic parrot]

not really

some people do but i am not one of them

[hardy kernel]

It's eh for me

[signal aspen]

its just a meme

just like guan yu

[runic parrot]

guan yu is actually good though

[hardy kernel]

Guan yu is on a whole nother level lmao

[runic parrot]

gilga is too slow for me to work properly with

im talking about the maim

[hardy kernel]

Only if it's fully upgraded and if you have thick skin

[grand crystal]

lol i actually like gy

[runic parrot]

the dash is great. ill dash around 8x all day every day

[grand crystal]

its cool

[hardy kernel]

I can't do guan yu past 8 heat

[grand crystal]

gy was my 32 😎

i did it as a joke

but then it worked

[runic parrot]

ill do a gy 32 run someday

[hardy kernel]

wow lol

[grand crystal]

yea and it was base gy too

[runic parrot]

im still trying to do my poseidon sword 40 run

[grand crystal]

wasnt even leveled gy

[hardy kernel]

max level demeter is great

[grand crystal]

i was suprised and proud of myself >:3

[hardy kernel]

better than hidden aspect

[hardy kernel]

yeah thats crazy

congrats

[runic parrot]

most of the hidden aspects are ok. theyre not great but not terrible by any means

my favourite out of all of them is probably beo

[grand crystal]

:3

thank you

[hardy kernel]

I like ||Lucifer and Arthur||

[grand crystal]

both of those are gross imo

luci is a meme

and arthur is just slow

[narrow hemlock]

personal taste.

[grand crystal]

hence the "imo" :3

[runic parrot]

i like big sword

[hardy kernel]

how do you use spear? I used to love it and then I started hating it

[grand crystal]

which one

[hardy kernel]

hades or guan yu

[runic parrot]

theyre pretty different

with gy you pretty much rely on the sparky sparky boom special for damage

[hardy kernel]

I did a 22 heat run with hades

but only 8 with gy

[grand crystal]

for hades spear just go for high damage and spin a lot

and for gy

special is where a lot of damage cmes from if built right but spin builds also work

you almost will never be doing a normal attack on gy

[runic parrot]

remember to use the heal as a clutch

do not rely on it

unless you have quick spin in which case go ham

[unborn remnant]

hello hades fans

[hardy kernel]

Is the resource director useful in any way?

[runic parrot]

no

[unborn remnant]

spear :|

[runic parrot]

its just a resource sink

[unborn remnant]

how are yall doin

[runic parrot]

i wish they did somethin else

or like talked to zag

i want more dialogue from random shades

[wide bison]

Lyte got aired real hard

[grand crystal]

im doing good :3, hbu

[humble lintel]

if you get a duo boon and dont need the prereqs can you sell those?

[night cloud]

Wow crossing ||Zeus with the bow is a bad idea I died 2 times x)||

[grand crystal]

yea

[manic moat]

I think flurry shot owould do decent

[desert meadow]

Pretty good, though a bit scared to try animating a walk for a class. How about you?

[humble lintel]

good to know thanks

[grand crystal]

yea ved i actually sold the dem cast when i had the dem duo for it since i hated the cast lol

[unborn remnant]

what

[night cloud]

When will I meet ||Thanatos?||

[desert meadow]

Which demeter cast duo?

[unborn remnant]

also im aight

got a lot of work to do today

[desert meadow]

The Aphrodite Demeter one?

[grand crystal]

i think the aphro one

i just needed it for the list

[desert meadow]

Ah

[grand crystal]

and after i got it i sold the cast but kept the duo for funny

[desert meadow]

I just grabbed it yesterday, it's weird but not terrible

I'll try to finish a run with it for the heck of it

[manic moat]

nah I got it once right before final boss nad it completely ruined the build

[desert meadow]

Eh, I'm back before hydra so I have time to adjust

[unborn remnant]

Have you guys 100%ed yet?

[grand crystal]

im on switch but i like to think i have

[unborn remnant]

Switch Gang

[desert meadow]

I'm trying too

[grand crystal]

since ive forged bonds with everyone, did story + epilogue, finished fated list

done 32 heat

i think i got thans trinket to 30 one time

[desert meadow]

I just got the last duo I needed, so there's that done

And Hypnos' locked heart unlocked too

[grand crystal]

id have to look at a list of achievments to see if i actually 100% it in terms of achievments

[desert meadow]

I heard people say that one was a pain but it wasn't too bad, I got all the stuff with him and Than pretty fast

[unborn remnant]

Switch doesn't have achievements

you mean prophecies?

[grand crystal]

i mean ive completed the fated list

but like

100%

id have to look at what the steam achievements are and compare

[desert meadow]

I mean, can't you just check the steam achievements and compare them to what you know you've done?

[unborn remnant]

thats what he said

[desert meadow]

Yeah, we typed the same thing at the same time

[grand crystal]

we sent it at like the same time :/

[desert meadow]

Also, Plum

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2231460116

Here

[grand crystal]

:o

thanks

[unborn remnant]

oh

yall are on the same wavelengths

[grand crystal]

we both are bow gang :3

and yea im too lazy to get every keepsake to max lvl

[desert meadow]

It's not that hard

Just takes a while

[grand crystal]

considering i run relativity high heat id rather not ;w;

[desert meadow]

There's always 0 heat runs

[grand crystal]

id have to do 5 ;w;

hell mode

5 is my 0

but yea im only missing like 2 thing s

purging a legendary and all keepsakes maxed

[unborn remnant]

Bow Gang sticks together

i guess

anyway i might do a run tonight

[desert meadow]

Could do a one off run for the legendary purge

[unborn remnant]

its been a minute

maybe try 16 heat?

[twin moat]

Man

Improving the house feels good even if it is mostly pointless

[desert meadow]

Ikr

[twin moat]

A e s t h e t i c s

[desert meadow]

It's seeing your hard work turned into visuals

[twin moat]

Ikr

Wish you could improve ||the garden tho||

[desert meadow]

Same

[unborn remnant]

same

[quaint pagoda]

Did anyone else have a hard time getting the ||Thorns of Thanatos achievement||?

[signal aspen]

yes

i hate that

[quaint pagoda]

tips?

[signal aspen]

just play safe

and grab athena

[desert meadow]

The Pierced Butterfly one?

I did it with Hera, having to keep your distance helps

And you'll want to get as many rooms in Tartarus cleared without damage as possible, give up and try again if needed.

[hardy arrow]

I had an easy time with it using Aspect of Zeus. I play mouse and keyboard, and mouse aiming makes it easy to block effectively and use the bull rush to escape.

[desert meadow]

Yeah, shield would also be good for this too

Anything that can afford to run and still attack if needed really

[hasty owl]

just cleared the whole of tartsrus and tisiphone without taking a single hit :)

[hardy arrow]

No hit Alecto is the real challenge!

[hasty owl]

ugh god

i’ll try her next time i’m running hestia

she a big yike

my least fave to fight

[hardy kernel]

Tisiphone is my least favorite

[hasty owl]

i love her death animation

[desert meadow]

Tisiphone is so easy to cheese though

Any good melee build can shred her health once the room shrinks

[hardy kernel]

When does she start saying ||Zagreus instead of murder||? I saw it on a youtube video

[narrow hemlock]

just keep fighting her

[desert meadow]

^^^^

[hardy arrow]

@hardy kernel after she masters saying Murderzrrrr

[hasty owl]

MURDERZERR

ZRRDRRER

i love her

it took me about 25 runs i’d estimate?

[hardy kernel]

I've definitely fought her 25 times

[quaint pagoda]

I'm so close to getting all achievements.. but the butterfly.. goddamit

[signal aspen]

bruh

same

i almost got it

but a rat spawned on me

[quaint pagoda]

I just need to max the keepsakes.. I think I'll finish that before I complete the butterfly

It's going to be the only game I 100% achievement except hollow knight

Probably one of my favorite games now

[hardy arrow]

@quaint pagoda I'm working on Hollow Knight myself! just got steel soul and speedrun 2 👍

[quaint pagoda]

nice!

Did you do PoH?

[hardy arrow]

it's coming, it's coming!

[signal aspen]

damn

i've been thinking about getting that

[quaint pagoda]

It's an awesome game

[hardy arrow]

but yeah I can't recommend zeus enough for butterfly

[quaint pagoda]

Well I can't really choose the gods when using the butterfly so it's annoying.

I'll just use the bull rush

I didn't really try it.. last time I got to 1 perfect clear before 30 and I got to the styx..

So yea that was awful

[signal aspen]

wait what is steel heart

bruh

h a d e s- d i s c u s s i o n

[quaint pagoda]

We already left

[hasty owl]

halfway through a no hit dad attempt

god hestia is the best

[quaint pagoda]

butterfly or just a challenge?

[hasty owl]

just a challenge

oh well

oops

i mEsSeD up

in phase 2

[desert meadow]

Rip

[rigid grotto]

yo

[signal aspen]

hi

[rigid grotto]

why are all the weapon names so cool?

[signal aspen]

because

they are cool

[twin moat]

Man, tonight I got almost as much darkness and definitely more gems than I did in my entire playthrough

Poseidon and chaos boons

[rigid grotto]

that is a fair point, mr. 袁志宏

[hardy kernel]

Themes are so expensive

[ornate dragon]

Guys

I got a random boon

From poseinden

In the beginning

About fishing

How often is that

Or is that Normal

[half zephyr]

It’s not that random

[twin moat]

It's scripted

[ornate dragon]

Oh

[twin moat]

Yeah

[ornate dragon]

So you get it at a certain time

[twin moat]

You'll never get it again

Lol jk

[ornate dragon]

Damn

[twin moat]

But legendary boons are

Unlikely

[ornate dragon]

I got it at the beginning

Even though I had hades equipped

[half zephyr]

It’s scripted

[ornate dragon]

Oh okay

[twin moat]

Use it

Pay attention to the audio cue of the fishing spot

[half zephyr]

And having that equipped doesn’t even do anything boon wise

[twin moat]

You can get quite a lot of resources from it

[half zephyr]

It just fills a slot is all

Unless you didn’t mean hades, but another god?

[twin moat]

Yo I've been wondering something

[signal aspen]

bruh

[twin moat]

Is it better to go for the legendary and duo probability of the epic

I feel like epic is more consistent

[signal aspen]

how do you equip hades that early in the game

[twin moat]

Maybe they never bothered to buy the fishrod

[half zephyr]

Legendary/duo

Always

[twin moat]

Aight

[grand crystal]

not always ;w;

higher heat makes gods pride better

[stiff trellis]

I more often get the epic probability

Mostly due to preference

[grand crystal]

gods pride is better if the build isnt revolving around a duo/leg

like rama/hestia

[stiff trellis]

I still dunno how to build rama

[grand crystal]

ummm

arte/aphro attack

put something like dem/dio on special

prock ps and shared suffering

hammers are gonna be triple/twin + point blank/perfect

dash can be arte/athena

and then you pop off

[stiff trellis]

PS is easily my favourite thing on the mirror

[grand crystal]

or if you take arte attack you can take aphro special for heart rend :3

[stiff trellis]

It makes so many things just so much better

Oof

That's a bit brave for my tastes

I don't tend to have good crit luck

[oblique sun]

is lucifer whatsoever in greek mythology? it just feels off place

[wise sparrow]

typically the 4th aspects are not of greek myth

i believe all of em follow that pattern

[tame slate]

Is it just me, or is Divine Protection (Athena Legendary) quite underpowered?

[narrow hemlock]

none of the 4th aspects come from greek mythos. here are a couple dev response as to why
#ask-supergiant message #ask-supergiant message

[oblique sun]

ah well

[cerulean cipher]

a free hit every 20 seconds? seems extremely powerful to me

I've only gotten it once

[oblique sun]

i don't know much about greek mythology so i never gave it any thought until lucifer

[tame slate]

I mean, most fights end in less than 20 seconds

[oblique sun]

probably bugged me because

even hades said "hellish"

even though there's no hell in this world, technically speaking

only the underworld

[cerulean cipher]

But if you have the boon you can change your play style around it

[tame slate]

But, I can also just have the Athena call

And spam it

And be invulnerable for long periods of time

while also deflecting

[oblique sun]

i find athena's legendary to be quite underpowered indeed

like, if it's there and saves me once, it's like "cool" but it's never something i can rely on

[tame slate]

It might be possible to cheese some fights with it at 40+ heat

but there are more effective strategies for beating high heat

than relying on a very unlikely legendary

[cerulean cipher]

good point

speaking of 4th aspects, here's Guan Yu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Guan_Yu_Statue.jpg

[oblique sun]

oo thanks

[cerulean cipher]

58 m tall

[oblique sun]

i like how the guan yu weapon bleeds

or, drips blood

i never noticed it before

[tame slate]

Interestingly, Lucifer pre-dates Christian writing

It was the latin name for the planet Venus

The Greeks called the planet Phosphoros meaning Lightbringer, and the Romans, being so influenced by greek culture in general

gave it the same name

just in their own language

[half zephyr]

Still not greek tho

[tame slate]

I mean obviously, none of the hidden aspects are named after Greek figures

For me it adds to the charm of the game, it's such a shame I spoiled the discovery of the hidden aspects

for myself

[half zephyr]

I didn’t really care about the hidden aspects so I was fine being spoiled about them

I already figured out most of the story just from knowing the myths, so the twists for me were really just the changes they made for the game

It was still a fun journey

Still is

[hasty owl]

yOu guys

i’m going was going for a merciful end rub

n

currently entering styx with no death defies

half health

[tame slate]

It's a shame Hercules isn't in the game

[hasty owl]

and no merciful end

[tame slate]

@hasty owl Tough luck, it happens

[half zephyr]

Heracles

[hasty owl]

at least i’m getting better at the heroes fight :,)

[half zephyr]

And it’s explained why

[hasty owl]

i forgot

[tame slate]

I like that Achilles is a huge part of the story, he's my favorite figure from Greek mythology

[hardy arrow]

Disney wouldn't license them the rights to Hercules

[half zephyr]

Hercules is Roman

Heracles is Greek

[tame slate]

@hasty owl It sucks. I've had trouble getting it as well.

[hasty owl]

also i have only 6 minutes left to clear styx and hades

[tame slate]

@half zephyr It's the same person?

[hasty owl]

so let’s really hope i don’t get five sacked

[tame slate]

It's just the romans called him differently

[half zephyr]

Ye, but different name & you can give proper origin

[hasty owl]

yeah hercules is the romanized version of heracles

[half zephyr]

Not the other one that Disney gave

Imagine Hera not hating Heracles

So weird

Anyways he’s off somewhere that’s not the underworld cuz of Zeus

So too bad zag, no heracles for you

You get angry kitten instead

[tame slate]

Didn't Heracles ascend to Olympus? Or is that another demi-god?

[half zephyr]

He did

He’s the god of strength & heroes I think?

Not sure

Something ascension something domain something

[hasty owl]

got me y’all

in styx

with no dds

[half zephyr]

Too many origin stories

[hasty owl]

and 100 health

sigh

[half zephyr]

He ascended to Olympus upon his death at any rate

[hasty owl]

update

i died bc a nasty satyr poisoned me

[hardy arrow]

Doesn't sound like a very merciful end

[hasty owl]

your pun is hilarious but i am still salty

[hardy arrow]

Olympus will bless you next time.

[weak spruce]

goin through styx with cursed slash is fun

[hardy arrow]

Don't stand in a venom puddle when you're trying to heal on a rat @weak spruce

Been there

[weak spruce]

rats are fine, satyrs are the problem

good thing I have divine dash

[woeful robin]

I was sorta wondering if anyone would happen to have a transparent png of just a broken normal urn

[quaint pagoda]

Hypnos just congratulated ||me for my 100th death||.

[half zephyr]

Welcome to the club

[narrow hemlock]

[untold geyser]

when does Asterius mention the Twin Fists?

during the battle with him and Theseus?

[grand crystal]

when you fight him in his miniboss with them equipped

[half zephyr]

miniboss room

[untold geyser]

so if he doesn't appear as a miniboss, no progress is made?

[half zephyr]

it's rng wether you get him or not

[half zephyr]

exactly

[grand crystal]

nope, no progress

[grand crystal]

it appears im not the only old one here tho -w-

[runic sparrow]

so I just had my first 5-sack temple