and they're only given out by certain persons
#h1-discussion
runic parrot
gaunt tapir
Once you max out someone on nectar there'll be a quest related to that character you have to complete before being able to gift ambrosia
runic parrot
maxing out the affinity gauge requires you to complete their related sidequest, which are varied between the people
gaunt tapir
And yes only certain characters give companions
cobalt island
i see, thank you
chrome edge
Is it just me or is the hydra kinda buggy
Tends to freeze up and do nothing a lot
Like longer than it seems a breather period should be
gaunt tapir
Inbetween phases yeah, and they're usually standing still too
They dont move a lot
Attack from time to time
runic parrot
i thank the fates the hydra's not more active or else it's gonna be a pain dealing with it on em2
chrome edge
I wish it was a bit more aggro
restive cave
||hades|| is impossible to deal with without a ranged wep :'[
or im just mad cuz bad
gaunt tapir
mad cuz bad
although I tank them every time 😈
shield is also good
you can manage your hits with the rest
gaunt tapir
it definitely does
runic parrot
just found a silly little bug
lyric kraken
Pog
runic parrot
when you load 3 casts into hera bow and hit skelly, then immediately switch to a different weapon, you get your casts renewed so you can have more than 3 casts lodged in skelly at the same time
lyric kraken
Pog
granite ether
yeah, that's a fun little glitch :3
runic parrot
i wonder what it feels like to have a bloodstone in you
granite ether
like pain and burning probably, so for skelly...heaven
trail pendant
i wonder what it feels like to have a bloodstone in you
i imagine it's like when you step on a stone
sharper stone
you know what I mean
lyric kraken
Kidney stones
wise sparrow
i always called them cherries
half zephyr
Gaah
I somehow got through a whole Styx reward chamber run thingy without takin mg any damage
lyric kraken
Few, first time doing the theseus fight and not using a DD
half zephyr
And it was one with lots of big rats
And mini boss
I know I didn’t take any damage cuz I’m 1hp from using up a dd
This suddenly got really stressful TT
lyric kraken
I hope I find Athena and she gives me more dd
half zephyr
And I still haven’t found the stupid sack!!
lyric kraken
I just got to styx
half zephyr
Have fun
lyric kraken
There’s an anvil huh
hollow hawk
@runic parrot wait, what if you use that glitch with the codex emu mod and get like lvl 99 heroic exit wounds
craggy barn
i wonder how it feels to have abyssal blood on you
with boiling blood it's pretty obvious, everything starts to boil
but what the hell is abyssal blood like
hollow hawk
it just gets you all depressed
your brain becomes an empty void
full of darkness
hence you move slower and attack with less force
runic parrot
<@!519030001216258082> wait, what if you use that glitch with the codex emu mod ...
skelly just dies before you deal any damage with exit wounds
unless you make him invincible
undone moat
I agree
glossy gale
Do you guys think the game is playable with keyboard ONLY. So all the controls would be the same but I'd rebind LMB to Left Arrow key and RMB to right arrow key?
or is auto lock on only available if your computer detects a controller
hollow hawk
pretty sure the game is not playable with just a keyboard
you will have to aim a lot of things in this game
so a touchpad/mouse is necessary
you cant aim with just your right/left arrow keys
@glossy gale
wise sparrow
hes crying
acoustic quartz
you spanked him too hard
craggy barn
he's cold :(
runic parrot
why would you make bullman cry :(
small tusk
Hmm... So Hades physical is coming out in March for Switch. SHould have been patient and not bought digital recently 😦
I wonder if there might be a discount code of some sorts for "double-dippers"?
silk river
Uh, I really doubt that you will get a discount if you already own it...
Nor do I personally think you should get one.
small tusk
I have it on PC (Steam) and then bought it on Switch after the cross-save update (not immediately, waited for patches to make sure the saves don't disappear via some bug, as can be the case)
It just kinda sucks, I wanted a physical edition (I prefer those), but then there was no comment on it, so I bough digital. Burn.
small tusk
You'd buy Hades more than once... *Right?*
Already did. Kinda pointless buying 3 times, twice for the same version just to ensure the fact that the game can be played once the digital storefronts inevitably get shut down. I also collect GB/GBC/GBA games - physical is the way for game preservation, not counting the evil evil "piracy"
eager kindle
150+ hrs in and this game is still super fun mygod
runic parrot
this is probably my most played non-strategy game
small tusk
I recommended it to my buddy and he managed to spend 26h in 2 days in the game xD
"just one more...."
eager kindle
Yeah
Bought dead cells on a sale last Christmas, but I can't start it because of Hades 😂
runic parrot
- dont get hit
- hit a lot
- hit hard
gaunt tapir
will try
runic parrot
try to get a cohesive build
runic parrot
haha well
gaunt tapir
👀
runic parrot
idk its pretty hard i just kinda learned it as i went along
what weapon do you like to use
brazen lagoon
Get good boon
Don't die
runic parrot
eris rail is good
try getting used to all of the weapons so you can utilise dark thirst for farming
brazen lagoon
Imagine not liking the rail smh couldn't be me
runic parrot
i despised the rail before i learned how amazing it can be at zooming through regions
gaunt tapir
oh yea I can use them I just don't like doing so
although I am finding trouble being effective with the charge from the spear
achilles spear solves all my problems doe
runic parrot
spear is one of my least used weapons
civic pendant
The spear is probably the ‘worst’ weapon yeah
civic pendant
Zeus and Beo are great yeah
civic pendant
And tbh even Zag with hammers is good
runic parrot
i have a great appreciation for every aspect apart from zag rail and achilles spear
gaunt tapir
I need help mainly selecting what pacts to run
runic parrot
i just. cant get used to them
gaunt tapir
for 16 heat
brazen lagoon
Imagine not liking Achilles spear
It is literally the only good spear
Well hades is ok
runic parrot
I need help mainly selecting what pacts to run
EM3 is an easy one to do, if you're good at rushing, TD2 isn't all that bad
that's an easy 12(13?) heat already
civic pendant
It is literally the only good spear
Guan Yu dude
brazen lagoon
Ew
civic pendant
MM?
gaunt tapir
Middle Managment
gaunt tapir
so that's 13
civic pendant
Oh lol
half zephyr
So many fun punishments
runic parrot
uhh i like to use FO2 but i know it's not for everyone
FO1 isn't too hard to get used to though
half zephyr
What’s FO again
gaunt tapir
I have been ignoring pretty much everything but the first couple and TD
civic pendant
Forced overtime. Things go faster
runic parrot
enemies go zoomies
half zephyr
Aah
runic parrot
it makes enemy spawn time shorter so very good for speedruns
half zephyr
Fun
civic pendant
You can go FO and TD, or you can go for stuff that makes enemies and rooms bulkier and just take your time
half zephyr
Think I did it once but I didn’t really notice a change XD
gaunt tapir
oh with FO1 thats 16
runic parrot
good luck. FO1 is a rough transition if youre new, but you'll get used to it
gaunt tapir
should I do gilgamesh
runic parrot
like i said it's really up to you and what you like and what you're good at
i think i achieved my first 16 heat with dem fists?
gaunt tapir
I tried dem fists and didnt like it that much
gaunt tapir
I've yet to try poseidon sword
half zephyr
I’m doing my first 7 heat run 😄
gaunt tapir
Im not very good with cast 🥴
runic parrot
I’m doing my first 7 heat run 😄
good luck!
half zephyr
Thx, at hades now but hands tired
runic parrot
Im not very good with cast 🥴
casts can be a powerful way to augment your dps, especially when your combo ends
with poseidon you pretty much build around your cast
cast x3 -> special -> collect -> repeat
with some dash strikes here or there
half zephyr
I had my first fun spear run earlier before this one too
civic pendant
Which aspect?
half zephyr
Discovered flurry jab & suddenly it was fun to use
Uhm.. I don’t remember XD
Zag I think
I don’t use the spear very much cuz it almost never gets dark thirst
runic parrot
meanwhile i always get DT on spear
i just cant get into the rhythm of a spear game
i dont know how to effectively use the special
civic pendant
Spear special is weird yeah
half zephyr
I think the reason I had fun was that flurry jab played nicely into my already existing dash, dash-strike & plain attack pattern XD
civic pendant
It’s either Guan Yu being a bow, or it never gets used
half zephyr
No big swing anymore was amazing
runic parrot
gy special with some good boons is pretty much explosive hammer on crack
when it gets going, it gets GOING
but 9/10 it doesnt get going for me so i never use it
civic pendant
Guan Yu is really feast or famine
half zephyr
Hehehehh
civic pendant
Either you’re winning with full health or you’re not winning at all
half zephyr
This was the easiest hades fight yet XD
Didn’t even lose half my health lol
Favored & Envied indeed 
Oooh next time I can get 8 heat with rail!
half zephyr
Get the thingy
flat halo
Is super hard
half zephyr
Prolly why it’s locked until you pay for it
flat halo
great. New roadblock for 10 heat
How would you guys personally rank the hidden aspects
half zephyr
Haven’t got any yet 😄
runic parrot
How would you guys personally rank the hidden aspects
hard question, probably Shield > Bow > Sword > Rail > Fists > Spear
desert meadow
From what I've tried, which is about 1 run with each: Fists > Bow > Sword > Rail > Shield > Spear.
It's really going to depend on what you enjoy personally tbh.
runic parrot
my favourite aspects on each weapon would make the rankings more like
Sword > Fists > Rail > Bow > Shield > Spear
poseidon, zag, eris, zag, beo, achilles in that order
desert meadow
Zag bow, really?
hushed pumice
Hiddens?
desert meadow
Ah
hushed pumice
Hmm
desert meadow
I should give zag bow another try then
runic parrot
I should give zag bow another try then
i am HEAVILY biased towards it because it got me my first sub 14
hushed pumice
Rama, Arthur, Lucifer, Beo, GY, Gilga
hushed pumice
That's just preference lol
runic parrot
ya ik
gaunt tapir
I perished
eager kindle
Am I right in saying that ||Hades Call|| works a bit like Athena when it is fully charged?
desert meadow
^^^
eager kindle
I see. But you're also impervious to damage right?
runic parrot
yes
desert meadow
There's a Zeus boon that increases your damage after using a call, that with ||Hades call|| is amazing.
runic parrot
when you use it with the halfway gauge, you turn 'invisible', which does the damage boost too but only on your first hit and the invisibility ends once you do the attack
desert meadow
I had an auto charge call boon from Hermes too, I was using a call about every five seconds
runic parrot
when you use it with the full gauge, you turn 'unseen', which lets you be fully invisible AND gives the damage boost throughout
eager kindle
There's a Zeus boon that increases your damage after using a call, that with ||H...
That's a good one. Only managed to get the Hermes increased movement speed boon with it and it seems amazing as well. I only tried this keepsake for the Steam achievement but it's really fun
hardy oasis
Hades call is legit amazing with Proud Bearing
I haven't used Sigil of the Dead much, but I do plan on using it for my next Eris run when I get to it
runic parrot
i love the acorn and spearpoint too much to not use them
eager kindle
Love this game so much. So many things to try
desert meadow
I started using the acorn recently, it's so good
eager kindle
Acorn > Lucky Tooth
desert meadow
^
runic parrot
acorn > collar > tooth
desert meadow
Unless you're out of dds, then tooth isn't bad
eager kindle
Acorn carried my first (and last) 32 heat run
runic parrot
it's been between spearpoint and acorn for me recently
though i have started to see the light with sigil
ancient vigil
Acoooorn
hardy oasis
spearpoint is really good
manic moat
tried it for a while but switched to other stuff
desert meadow
It is good
hardy oasis
though I prefer Acorn
manic moat
also how does spearpoint interact with athena's legendary
desert meadow
I'd take spearpoint if you're having trouble with the whole area, acorn if you just want help on the boss.
manic moat
yea makes sense, might start taking spearpoint in elysium
what are some good defensive keepsakes for elysium tho
hardy oasis
spearpoint or acorn
lucky tooth if you aren't confident in your chances of finding Patroclus for extra DDs
desert meadow
^^^^^^^^
hidden forge
What about that Pom one?
unborn remnant
hidden forge
Lol
hardy oasis
What about that Pom one?
Mom Pom is a great keepsake in and of itself but it is typically best equipped early in the run
desert meadow
What about that Pom one?
I'd take that one in Tartarus and Asphodel
hidden forge
Maybe I should start switching it out for the acorn once I get to Elysium
hardy oasis
yeah
that's typically my play for Elysium
since I mainly use the Fists, I have to get up close and personal to Theseus and Asterius, so if I don't have ME by the time I get to Elysium, I just equip acorn
half zephyr
Gaaaaah getting the god keepsakes to max level is so booooring
hardy oasis
ikr???
half zephyr
I just rather use something.. useful
desert meadow
Do that while doing something else as well
half zephyr
Mhmm
I was doing Ares and.. Demeter? Earlier
On my first 7 heat run
I thought I could always use doom with the gun ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I was right
gaunt tapir
Fellas excuse the interruption
I am about to fight final boss on 16 heat
I am excited
hardy oasis
YOOOOOOOO
half zephyr
Have funsies
desert meadow
Good luck!
hardy oasis
I thought I could always use doom with the gun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ME Rail is very very interesting
hardy oasis
I'm more used to ME Fists, since my Rail build typically goes for Zeus Attack
half zephyr
ME Rail is very very interesting
ME..? >.>
hardy oasis
Merciful End
half zephyr
I don’t know all the abbreviations yet
hardy oasis
Deflect boons immediately activate Doom effects
half zephyr
Fun
hollow hawk
merciful end is considered like one of the most powerful duos in the game
half zephyr
I just grabbed random boons
hollow hawk
especially when paired with divine dash
half zephyr
And got some msg boosting ones too
Also, I just unlocked Shady earlier & I’m officially in love
gaunt tapir
uh oh
hollow hawk
shady?
hardy oasis
B O U L D Y
hollow hawk
oh the companion
half zephyr
My nickname based on my disc name is usually Shady so it was a match made in heaven
hardy oasis
If Battie weren't the meta, I'd use Shady all day
but I find Shady useful for higher heats when you're in a pinch and need healing
and coin
half zephyr
Mhmmmm
hidden forge
since I mainly use the Fists, I have to get up close and personal to Theseus and...
What’s ME
half zephyr
Real nice in Styx
desert meadow
Shady is great, just a bit weak
half zephyr
Ok, gonna rephrase
hardy oasis
YO??????
half zephyr
I got too full of myself
hardy oasis
DID YOU DO IT????
gaunt tapir
YEEEEA
half zephyr
On my 7 heat run
small tusk
I dont like exagryph and spear
Me neither xD
Bow > Sword | Fists > Rail | Spear
hidden forge
So is that an area Poseidon combo?
main cliff
is there a place when players can give feedback on certain mechanics ?
half zephyr
I wasn’t planning on it, but somehow I ended up fighting Charon just a couple chambers before EM3 Theseus & Asterius XD
My first time doing EM3 too lol
I was not prepared for how hard Asterius hit
rapid forum
HELL YEA
runic parrot
hey congrats!
hardy oasis
noice
gaunt tapir
spear is indeed funky
hidden forge
I think my easiest and lowest effort run was with Crystal clarity
Barely had to do anything
desert meadow
I had a great spear run once, but otherwise it's weird to get going with
flat halo
Gave out ambrosia and everything'
flat halo
the dialogue for ambrosia-related stuff happened BEFORE I reached 6 hearts
So now that I am at 6 hearts, I dont see it anymore
craggy barn
5 sack during a farming run 😃 👍
rapid forum
so I've been thinking to make ambrosia irl. Now cause it taste diff to each person, I have taken the creative liberty to do whatever the heck I want, with the catch being it has to look the same as the art. I can just put whiskey in a jar and I'd be correct, but I don't drink alcohol. So I've thought of Honey Green Apple Lavender tea.
which what I'm gonna make tomorrow 
half zephyr
Got a new title I think XD
“Victory”
Middle-Management Cutter
brazen lagoon
which what I'm gonna make tomorrow <:dusa:522248771409543188>
Make some for me
flat halo
Have you guys beat Super Dad
gaunt tapir
not yet
warm sluice
I finally beat him with every weapon
smoky bane
Finally beat the main story on 80th run and got aspect of Arthur right after 
rapid forum
Super dad is fun
warm sluice
Lol it took my like 85 tries to beat him with all 6
warm sluice
I still have a lot to unlock
rapid forum
it's in the blooooooood
smoky bane
me wondering how I’m losing to hydra meanwhile standing in magma for ten seconds
warm sluice
I'm too scared to add heat yet 
rapid forum
warm sluice
Is that the adding more enemies?
rapid forum
Yes
warm sluice
I think that will def be my first added heat
smoky bane
The very first one
rapid forum
I'd say tight deadline is pretty important to get around fast
runic parrot
^
if you can finish under 36 minutes, you can probably handle td1
extreme measures are also very important to get used to early on
warm sluice
My best is 26 so far
runic parrot
63
smoky bane
My best is 26 so far
26 heat?
warm sluice
Minutes lol
warm sluice
I haven't added heat bc i'm weak
warm sluice
Hera Bow
smoky bane
You should try the twin fists or shield of Zeus
balmy grove
love the hera with cast upgrades
crit + attack speed on the heartseeker is pretty good too
hardy oasis
63 heat run when
warm sluice
I like the fists and shield but still trying to find my favorite aspect for my style
I like bow and sword best atm
smoky bane
what is the point of doing high heat runs? as in after the point where extra heat benefits you in any way
just to see if you can do it?
wise sparrow
for fun or leaderboard
hardy oasis
it's for fun
smoky bane
Ah
balmy grove
how high do the bounties go?
runic parrot
20 heat
wise sparrow
up to 20 heat
runic parrot
which each weapon
prisma wind
For "fun" 
smoky bane
Was wondering if there were any things it did rather than bounty
wise sparrow
32 heat gets u a statue
warm sluice
I still need to unlock companions, all I have is Skelly
smoky bane
before that I never touched cast lmao
smoky bane
I still need to unlock companions, all I have is Skelly
I’ve yet to unlock any at all and I’ve beaten the main story lmao
Wtf am I doing wrong
warm sluice
Lol it took me forever to get skelly's
copper canopy
Build relationships
smoky bane
I am
copper canopy
It was easy for me
warm sluice
I almost have meg and dusa companions noe
copper canopy
noe
warm sluice
NOW lmao
charred anchor
i just figured out that hades is actually turning invisible when he says darkness
i thought he was going underground lmao
wise sparrow
i had to give some juice to nyx before i could advance the sissyfuss relationship
warm sluice
i just figured out that hades is actually turning invisible when he says darknes...
tf how
charred anchor
i dont know
ancient vigil
Darkness! Digs hole
wise sparrow
and also achilles
smoky bane
Lmfao I stopped what I was typing originally bc that msssage made me die laughing
warm sluice
Can you hit him while invis?
charred anchor
anyway i only figured out cuz i equipped his keepsake and he said it explicitly
i was floored
smoky bane
No I don’t think
balmy grove
@warm sluice nope
warm sluice
ahh
smoky bane
you have to plan your hit and movement when he comes back
copper canopy
What if
You wanted to unleash your most powerful attack
But Hades said
DARKNESS
smoky bane
note you can see his footsteps
wise sparrow
Can you hit him while invis?
no you cant sadly. an absolute travesty for speedrunners
charred anchor
hades always goes impervious when i use my call
warm sluice
Literally
smoky bane
He do be doing dat
ancient vigil
I like using it when I’m battling him. Help me father while I kill u
copper canopy
Yesterday, Hades vanished milliseconds after using my greater call
brazen lagoon
What if
You wanted to to use artemis greater call
But hades said
Darkness
copper canopy
Exactly
warm sluice
not me calling Zeus and then DARKNESS
smoky bane
What if
copper canopy
What if
prisma wind
Save Artemis greater call for phase 2, no invis then
balmy grove
I just want to know what sadist added the witches miniboss room
copper canopy
||I were to purchase fast food and disguise it as my own cooking?||
charred anchor
i think its funny that hades insists that his spear is better than varatha
smoky bane
||I were to purchase fast food and disguise it as my own cooking?||
Aurora Borealis???
copper canopy
Yes!
smoky bane
May I see it?
copper canopy
.......
No.
warm sluice
I like spin but its so slow
charred anchor
same
smoky bane
Aw
charred anchor
i honestly cant stand varatha
brazen lagoon
Smh
warm sluice
I like achilles aspect
charred anchor
maybe i just need more practice with guan yu but im really bad at it
copper canopy
I’ve been trying to do Critcalibur runs for fun but the game refuses to give me the buffs I need.
warm sluice
Guan yu is hard af
charred anchor
made me break my clear streak 😭
copper canopy
Guan Yu needs the right hammer upgrades to work properly
charred anchor
which ones?
warm sluice
?Spin upgrades
copper canopy
Like the one that has the charge shot last longer
smoky bane
A necessary hammer upgrade for me when I use the spear is definitely the hold to attack
copper canopy
Also yeah spin upgrades to size or charge speed
brazen lagoon
Charged skewer is great on guan yu
copper canopy
A necessary hammer upgrade for me when I use the spear is definitely the hold to...
I always get that if I can
prisma wind
Guan Yu loves Charged Skewer, yeah
warm sluice
A necessary hammer upgrade for me when I use the spear is definitely the hold to...
I like no reload on rail too
brazen lagoon
Delta chamber one of the best rail hammers easily
Unless you're using hestia of course
warm sluice
Zeus attack no reload rail is fun to me
charred anchor
Delta chamber one of the best rail hammers easily
yeah that ones rly good esp if u have a boon that gives u knockback
i think poseidon has one?
copper canopy
Squirt Gun supremacy
charred anchor
which ones that
warm sluice
^
smoky bane
Hmm I’ll take ur word, especially since I never use the gun
But yeah
What is it lmao
copper canopy
which ones that
All push back boons also generate a lightning bolt
smoky bane
Oh
copper canopy
So put Poseidon on attack
warm sluice
Betttt
smoky bane
Isn’t that a duo
warm sluice
Yes
copper canopy
And endless bolts
charred anchor
do yall think its worth it to destroy the skull thingies in the hades boss fight
warm sluice
Plus artemis arrow on attack?
charred anchor
wait are we not allowed to curse here
smoky bane
do yall think its worth it to destroy the skull thingies in the hades boss fight
suppose not
Don’t mind tho
copper canopy
Also the Mirror Aspect “Privlidged Status” counts Sea Storm as two different status effects
So you can also get a flat +40% to attack
smoky bane
The reason I say it’s not worth to destroy the side enemies in the final boss fight is bc usually my boons and weapon is so op that I just focus on attacking boss
copper canopy
It depends on the enemies but honestly the enemies kill me more than Hades does in that phase
Well not kill, but deal lots of damage
smoky bane
Dammit sorry
copper canopy
YOU DID IT AGAIN
smoky bane
can I post a link to an mp4 of a nice Theseus fight I had earlier
Or is that too spoiler
copper canopy
craggy barn
spoilers are perfectly fine here
desert meadow
do yall think its worth it to destroy the skull thingies in the hades boss fight
If you can, like when he uses darkness, yes. Otherwise, just keep an eye out and focus on ending him sooner.
charred anchor
i was laughing my ass off during the ||charon fight||
its just so funny and absurd
smoky bane
Bro the thing about that which made me laugh the most was
The noise of a record player stopping when you get caught taking the bag
smoky bane
Yeah me too lmao
charred anchor
btw how many times can u do it? like ive only had the opportunity once
smoky bane
I’ve done it once and lost, and had the opportunity about ten times since
In about the span of 34 runs
marsh rivet
do yall think its worth it to destroy the skull thingies in the hades boss fight
Some aspects can do it for "free". In the beginning though, it's easy enough to dodge them. The more pacts you have though, it becomes more and more important to keep the skulls to a minimum
charred anchor
i did it once and succeeded 😎 had to use 2 of my death defiances tho
smoky bane
I have yet to revisit the fight since the first lmao
I know it’s easy once u get the patterns down
I just don’t wanna do Charon dirty again
charred anchor
i think the key is just to dash a lot
smoky bane
How does the event even trigger? Like is anything required
For that to happen
ik I had full relationship w Charon the first time I saw the bag
craggy barn
well yes
smoky bane
Like could it happen on someone’s 4th run
craggy barn
sometimes it's just there
smoky bane
vs someone’s 68th
charred anchor
btw which npcs give u the special keepsake thingies? i got megaeras and im pretty sure dusa has one
smoky bane
me using Excalibur for its best advantages: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677786556844736513/811896115107856414/20210218034503_1.jpg
smoky bane
Finally. I can live out my dream of standing in the magma
runic parrot
scrubs taking damage from magma
craggy barn
do enemies still take magma damage standing there?
runic parrot
just get a heroic sure footing
wise sparrow
on valentines day i took dio attack arthur
runic parrot
also taking skelly tooth in asphodel is a bold move tbh
wise sparrow
smoky bane
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677786556844736513/811884267356946492/20210218025752_1.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677786556844736513/811884850826969098/682b0940ae30e8e3a99ca7e81d072616.png
wise sparrow
:)
runic parrot
love him
smoky bane
If anyone chose the latter you are horrible
runic parrot
beautiful trickster man
gaunt tapir
whoa
gaunt tapir
not allowed 🤬
smoky bane
Also has anyone else had a run where they’re doing so bad but just hanging on, and you run into Thanatos and just let him defeat every enemy
lmao
gaunt tapir
Oh that happened to me once
brazen lagoon
I've played so much that if I get a bad run I just give up and try another weapon
gaunt tapir
I was near death with no DDs and let my boy death incarnate do the deed for me
smoky bane
I literally dashed around in circles as he killed everyone
gaunt tapir
yeeeah
desert meadow
Or that feeling when you barely survive a room, all your dds are gone, and then Pat shows up
smoky bane
Also I had no idea after all these runs and beating the story that you can fish in chaos
charred anchor
thanatos: my job here is done
me: but you didnt do anything
leaves
its very funny when that happens
craggy barn
if i encounter thanatos i am absolutely going to beat him no matter what
wise sparrow
patroc is amazing
charred anchor
i usually beat him
charred anchor
patroclus my beloved
craggy barn
no questions, especially since a centaur heart is on the line of all things
desert meadow
^
smoky bane
and it’s usually bc of some bulls
craggy barn
thanatos
my beloved
desert meadow
Getting Than on a centaur room and then beating him is just so nice
gaunt tapir
, my beloved
wise sparrow
edgy goth boyfriend stops time to murder the bullies and then gives me his HEART
smoky bane
also while having a boon that increases centaur amount
runic parrot
is there any unique dialogue when using ||Hades call|| against than
gaunt tapir
😍
runic parrot
or meg for that matter
smoky bane
no
wise sparrow
meg and than say something
charred anchor
i always get so emotional when i talk to patroclus 😭 sad gays...
wise sparrow
when u do her bat while than is there
smoky bane
But I run through the fights so quickly I sometimes miss quick dialogue
craggy barn
thanatos giving other random rewards
pros: more resources and stuff to work for
cons: less thanzag shipping :((
smoky bane
does || dad || say anything when using his call against him?
charred anchor
imagine speedrunning i just think all the characters are pretty
wise sparrow
uwu
charred anchor
does || dad || say anything when using his call against him?
i think if u use lesser call but not greater
craggy barn
father!!
WHAT
smoky bane
I don’t speedrun to speedrun it’s just a habit tbh
the quick gameplay gets my mindset like that
charred anchor
chaos is the hottest character dont @ me bc im right /j
smoky bane
he do be having the voice of the bunny from Donnie darko
craggy barn
🖤💜✨✨ primordial chaos ✨🖤💜💖💓
charred anchor
he do be having the voice of the bunny from Donnie darko
*they
smoky bane
funny thing, I was under the impression that Chaos boons were not permanent and only lasted the duration of the amount of encounters you face negative effects
Until like 50th run
charred anchor
ngl chaos boons are kind of ass unless u get them early on
but i get them anyway bc i like chaos
smoky bane
If I find one that makes me take -4 dmg for each time I attack I just let it get my health down to 5
and keep attacking anyway
modest bolt
hey guys question, how are you guys able to play super high heat levels? does it seem more fun? or just more work lol?
runic parrot
both
smoky bane
hey guys question, how are you guys able to play super high heat levels? does it...
It’s just for fun but with the added work
runic parrot
its cathartic when you win
modest bolt
ooo big word lol
smoky bane
modest bolt
fancy fancy
craggy barn
i ran 32 heat beo once and somehow made it through asphodel with -3 hp each time i use attack constantly one hit away from death because my special did zero damage
smoky bane
Not a big word wtf
charred anchor
chaos grasp
i meant like if you get a chaos thingie later then the cons often outweigh the pros
esp if u dont have the egg equipped (which i usually dont)
modest bolt
@smoky bane i mean you could just say it feels good lol
smoky bane
but the cons last so shortly that more times rather than not it’s worth
runic parrot
not when you take a chaos boon right before a bossroom because you forgot to check chamber #
modest bolt
i was just joking with ya bud, ok ty for the review
smoky bane
That’s not really the exact definition of cathartic tho
runic parrot
time to spend the entire em2 fight without my special lol
craggy barn
i'm so used to em3 i don't really mind going in with a chaos curse
charred anchor
That’s not really the exact definition of cathartic tho
can we not do semantics
modest bolt
kinda
smoky bane
cinnamon sticks?
charred anchor
the one that hides the chamber preview is all fun and games until you miss eurydices room 😭
craggy barn
time to spend the entire em2 fight without my special lol
bro just be on the constant verge of death 😎 it's not that bad
smoky bane
Wait what is this em(x) 
craggy barn
extreme measures
smoky bane
oh
charred anchor
em2 upgrades the hydra
wise sparrow
lernie gets easier on em2
runic parrot
bro just be on the constant verge of death 😎 it's not that bad
there should be a low confidence talent where you stay at 1 health at all times. but the bonus is just zag gets a cool hat or something
runic parrot
em2 arena sucks
craggy barn
there should be a low confidence talent where you stay at 1 health at all times....
that's just skull earring
smoky bane
He’s not but personally compared to the others he is
charred anchor
theseus pisses me off with his goddamn shield
smoky bane
Yeah it’s just the heads
runic parrot
that's just skull earring
but that doesnt give you a cool hat
charred anchor
damn ig im not allowed to curse 😔
desert meadow
theseus pisses me off with his goddamn shield
Theseus is very satisfying to murder though
smoky bane
It’s ok, Theseus makes me want to curse too
craggy barn
you have meggy's support
smoky bane
craggy barn
what more could you want
runic parrot
true
runic parrot
oh i guess i havent tried the earring while fighting meg
want to get all the fluff out of the way
runic parrot
theseus is hilarious but his goddamn shield
just get behind him lol
charred anchor
easier said than done
smoky bane
I always make sure to kill Theseus before asterius
hollow frigate
Support fire and revenge boons are great against Theseus
smoky bane
that smug ****
runic parrot
it's not too hard, he doesnt turn around fast enough unless your attacks are really slow
arthur 
wise sparrow
shiny knife
smoky bane
desert meadow
I always make sure to kill Theseus before asterius
I find Asterius easier to take down first tbh, that darn summon of Theseus' is a royal pain with a bull's axe whiffing right behind your heels.
smoky bane
Does anyone else have a problem w not being able to use Steam overlay while playing with Vulkan instead of directx
runic parrot
love critting with arthur slashes but gods be damned i do not enjoy those slow attacks
smoky bane
I find Asterius easier to take down first tbh, that darn summon of Theseus' is a...
He is easier to take down first, i just like killing that mfer Theseus
desert meadow
Completely understandable.
runic parrot
god attack theseus combined with spinny spin asty though 😳
smoky bane
a friend of mine didn’t recognize the Zagreus fan until like 79 runs
and he only noticed the banner not the dialogue
willow jay
Phew, just beat 32 heat for the first time with aspect of chiron
smoky bane
How was it
charred anchor
a friend of mine didn’t recognize the Zagreus fan until like 79 runs
zagreus fan?
willow jay
honestly my build had no synergy whatsoever but aspect of chiron is nutty so it didn't matter 😛
craggy barn
someone on twitter somehow managed to clear 32 heat chiron with jury summons and dc2
smoky bane
yeah I don’t get it personally but
craggy barn
tailesque
craggy barn
32 heat is honestly pretty fun, i even went and did it with all 6 weapons
smoky bane
At the same time?? /s
willow jay
32 heat is a good balance of difficulty once you find a pact you like
gaunt tapir
I can't even comprehend how 32 heat would be possible
charred anchor
At the same time?? /s
for a sec i legit thought that was what he meant lmao
gaunt tapir
16 is my current limit
runic parrot
you get used to it
willow jay
honestly at some point something just clicked and I jumped the gap from 15 heat to like 30 pretty much instantly
runic parrot
going straight from 16 to 32 during my 14th run was a mistake
craggy barn
it's just exciting to immediately jump out of your comfort zone and break the monotonous cycle of beating dad effortlessly over and over
smoky bane
for a sec i legit thought that was what he meant lmao
Me too lmao. Imagine, having the twin fists, gun in one fist and shield in the other
runic parrot
definitely dont do that
charred anchor
bow in ur... mouth?
runic parrot
ease into it like a comfy pair of slippers
runic parrot
16, then 20, more heat. more pacts. more pain. then culminating in the highest honor (according to skelly), 32.
willow jay
Is DC2 supposed to be hard or something?
smoky bane
charred anchor
which ones dc2
runic parrot
it's not hard it's just annoying for non fist weapons
smoky bane
depends who u ask
runic parrot
i almost never turn on dc
willow jay
2 layers of damage protection on enemies
craggy barn
if you can confidently handle tight deadline 3 there's a lot more leniancy with the other conditions
willow jay
I only ran TD1, so I played on EM4
craggy barn
why
willow jay
more fun imo
craggy barn
why would you do em4 at 32 heat
smoky bane
me on TD3, completely ignoring the timer and realizing once I get to meg that I have 10 seconds to beat her
willow jay
I don't find the Hades fight very difficult without bonus enemy speed
so EM4 isn't that bad at 32
willow jay
DD?
willow jay
oh okay
I was just using DD yeah
I tried Stubborn Defiance for a while but didn't really get used to it
smoky bane
Even though I find myself not needing many extra lives on runs where I win anyway, and I usually need them most in runs I lose
lmao
runic parrot
i run LC2/3 so i pretty much relied on SD for constant healing
charred anchor
i only use my dd during the hades fight so it works well for me
craggy barn
if you're running lc3 you absolutely might as well just go lc4 anyways
willow jay
that makes sense, I was just using LC1
hollow frigate
I like dd just so you can tank to get that last bit of damage in against bosses
craggy barn
you get almost no healing at all on lc3
runic parrot
if you're running lc3 you absolutely might as well just go lc4 anyways
the region fountains makes all the difference between me not dying sometimes
i suck at lc4
smoky bane
Like if find yourself needing to replenish all your DDs when you get to Patroclus, chances are ur having a bad run
but u never know
willow jay
I tried LC3/4 and Stubborn Defiance for a while and really struggled
smoky bane
I hate stubborn defiance
craggy barn
athena can seriously help with that
charred anchor
athena has a boon that refreshes a dd
smoky bane
Oh yes
charred anchor
idk what it does if u have sd on
smoky bane
I think it just replenishes hp and adds to it
willow jay
you can stack the athena underneath it
smoky bane
? Not sure tho
craggy barn
if you lose your sd before taking a boon from athena, she can give you last stand/deathless stand which not only buff your sd but also give you a dd that lasts until it is lost as well
willow jay
you can strategically die so that you have an athena defiance underneath SD
charred anchor
ooo thats good
craggy barn
when you go to the next chamber your sd is regenerated
smoky bane
Oh so itll add a life on top of the stubborn defiance life??
wise sparrow
yes
willow jay
yep
willow jay
it's like, a whole thing when you're running SD
craggy barn
and if you die the sd is always used first, and the dd is only used if you happen to die twice in the same chamber
smoky bane
craggy barn
you can have up to two dds from athena
smoky bane
yo....
runic parrot
dont be like me and lose the dd straight after you got it to the miniboss in the next chamber
craggy barn
and possibly also more from chaos if you're willing to take the risk
smoky bane
😩
willow jay
I have to say that one of the joys of Chiron is just murdering the Elysium butterfly miniboss in like 2 seconds
craggy barn
also you gotta make sure you already have a core boon from athena because those are required to get dds
willow jay
is Divine Dash a core boon?
desert meadow
Should be
willow jay
smoky bane
Love me some divine dash and strike
desert meadow
Yeah, it counts towards those
runic parrot
core boons are the ones on the main boon bar
willow jay
I really like having Divine Flourish on Eris
wait I think I'm remembering the wrong aspect name...
Hera! that one
craggy barn
for 32 heat my keepsake order is usually first god>second god/athena/hermes>athena/random>acorn
craggy barn
the keepsake i take in aspho heavily depends on my build or what i'm going for
willow jay
rather embarrassingly I never bothered leveling the Skelly trinket beyond level 1
willow jay
it's not exciting 😛
craggy barn
acorn is better for daddy on hl5 anyways
smoky bane
Fair enough
willow jay
that's true
craggy barn
it lets you tank 6 hits while the tooth lets you tank 2 or 3 hits at best
smoky bane
What does the acorn keepsake do again? Is it the one that prevents hits from last enemies or something
runic parrot
makes you invulnerable for the first 3-4-5 hits of the boss encounter
hollow hawk
5*
heavy hound
for 32 heat my keepsake order is usually first god>second god/athena/hermes>athe...
Mine goes god/god/acorn/acorn
gaunt tapir
what does acorn do again
willow jay
negates 5 instances of damage in the boss encounter
gaunt tapir
interesting
craggy barn
it doesn't seem that great until you actually need it
with hl5 hades being the best case of it
willow jay
it's better the better you are at dodging and the more HL you're playing with
gaunt tapir
Makes sense
runic parrot
i usually go god/spearpoint/spearpoint/acorn (or spearpoint)
i just let rng take my hands through asphodel and elysium with the boons
willow jay
I liked god/god/god/bracer on Arthur for a while
heavy hound
with hl5 hades being the best case of it
Hl5 minotaur is scary
And i normally have hl5 and lc4 on at 32
craggy barn
i used to em3 so i can kinda go just fine without the acorn
flint musk
i need tips for the Thorn of Thanatos achievement 😦 its the only one i cant get 😦 ive done everything
smoky bane
What is the requirement
smoky bane
Is that the requirement lol
runic parrot
that's the achieve where you have toget 30% on the pierced butterfly i think
smoky bane
Hmm
runic parrot
do you have it on max level?
smoky bane
Nu
should I
I really haven’t tried out many other keepsakes other than the 4 I always use and am looking to switch it up
runic parrot
i need tips for the Thorn of Thanatos achievement 😦 its the only one i cant get...
if you have a hard time not getting hit, i'd recommend getting an athena deflect boon
divine dash or even divine strike on a fast weapon like the sword or fists
smoky bane
Am I the only one who trades the 10 gems for 1 key until I have 5 keys then trades them for 1 nectar
willow jay
fast weapon like the sword
implying I'm not trying to donk people with Arthur
runic parrot
dodging is a big part, but another one is also getting high dps so you clear rooms before you have a chance of getting hit from all the enemies throwing projectiles
hollow hawk
Am I the only one who trades the 10 gems for 1 key until I have 5 keys then trad...
no, youre supposed to do that!
wise sparrow
zag sword, the aspect with the speed boost, is ironically super slow
hollow hawk
especially when nectar is important, and you dont have all keepsakes
runic parrot
and if you dont have 30% by the end asphodel, dont worry. my first 30% wasnt until like elysium or something
wise sparrow
the dps will have you hacking away for hours
smoky bane
ok good bc afaik the keys have no other purpose after mirror right?
hollow hawk
you cant get 30% by asphodel
it is literally impossible
there are only 12 combat chambers in tartarus
the max you could get is 24%
hollow hawk
oh
runic parrot
even though the enemies in elysium hit hard they're also usually really spread out
the hard part is dodging their projectiles which will be coming from every single angle imaginable
smoky bane
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803016492249120768/812002651268972594/unknown.png alright bois here we go
runic parrot
which is where the deflect boons come into play
smoky bane
hm
what should i use instead
weapon wise
havent started the run yet
@hollow hawk halp
grand crystal
bow is epic
smoky bane
no u
grand crystal
brisk trail
Nobody cares lmao
simple kite
oof
smoky bane
true :(
brazen lagoon
Nobody cares lmao
What's your problem?
smoky bane
he prob cant get past dad yet
craggy barn
he's got one of those usernames
smoky bane
yea true
formal terrace
Edgelord Supreme
brisk trail
First of all
smoky bane
lmao
craggy barn
more than likely an annoying young teen somewhere 13-14 and like to hate on popular things
green dune
@smoky bane I'm so happy for you, hope your run is attack based
hushed pumice
You could just take a chaos curse that doesn't affect the battle
brazen lagoon
13 years old thinks he's a comedian
brisk trail
I wasn't talking to you, nobody asked
hollow hawk
daily reminder to not feed the trolls
brisk trail
Second of all
hushed pumice
Like no gold earned or hidden preview
brisk trail
Nobody cares lmao
brazen lagoon
L
grand crystal
19 dollar fortnite card... and trolls dont get blocked
formal terrace
One thing people don't care about is @brisk trail
craggy barn
and now he's going on a tangent because suddenly there are people who dislike him
brazen lagoon
Who wants a 19 dollar fortnite card I got one right herd
smoky bane
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803016492249120768/812006528944046130/unknown.png @green dune so far so good early on
craggy barn
but he has a point, no one cares about your chaos boon from room one
i mean.. epic chaos boons are pretty pog
hollow hawk
lmao
brazen lagoon
That looks pretty good
oak wind
butterfly is anxiety
hollow hawk
pog