#h1-discussion
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Yea at max (80%) you could equate that as a 4 heat leeway way with Hard Labor. You'd still be playing the game at a high heat. It would take a long time to get the God Mode boon to 80% though.

So I did another 32 heat run, cause screw it, I've done high heats with every weapons except for rail
16:39 finish 
My fastest run was like 16 min with arthur and I dont remember how I did it
Like I wasnt actively speed running I was just going through the game and stuff
best time i got is 14:16 with rama
Yes
wasn't even a very lucky run in terms of boons i just got twin + perfect shot and arty on attack and steamrolled through everything
Rare Crop is goated
Thatd be unironically broken
funny thing was I was breathing very heavy on my last 32 heat run
my mom came up to me and asked what's wrong
told her it was just the game
"Well if you're gonna be stressed out like this, why are you playing it?"
-my mom, 2021

clearly never seen a gamer moment
i mean at you don't see me throwing controllers do you mother
I never throw controllers
cause I live in an apartment
if I throw it, it will definitely destroy it
and will probably hit someone
"If you're gonna be stressed out, why are you studying for the exam?"
Same logic there
thats the anti-esports logic right there
0% gamer
gamern't
What are your thoughts on speedruns being ruined if you don't get a 2 sack
This is why I feel like unseeded speedruns have hardly any merit
There's too much rng
the actual gameplay isn't that hard
Just spam tidal dash with eris rail
Don't even care about dodging
room clearing with tidal dash is way faster
What exactly do I need to do for the queen's plan prophecy? Do I need to max out bonds with all the gods?
ye
Max bonds with 5 Olympians
Some of them are easier than others
I wish there wasnt so much rng with styx temples
running outta time ? perfect opportunity for game to 5sack 😎
Well that was an absolutely beautiful run
Slicing Shot + Black Metal + Engulfing Vortex + Hunting Blades + Vicious Cycle + Fully Loaded
It cut through the final boss like butter, not to mention it charged up Aphrodite’s Aid super fast.
I also had Curse of Pain, Curse of Longing, and Impending Doom
How many bloodstones did you have? Just five or did you get more from Chaos and such?
Five, because I wasn’t expecting this run to turn out how it did from the start and didn’t get extra bloodstones
Got it
But still
Yeah sounds like some delightful ransacking right there
Indeed it was~
Does Relentless Volley work on ||Rama|| bow?
i’ve gotten to the point where i can get to hades 2nd phase pretty much every time but still haven’t beaten him
Nice, glad it wasnt a haphazard pick for hammer upgrade.
I love to play in god mod just for the sake of the story and because I'm very bad at this type of game 
the story progresses by you dying though
unless im wrong about that
Well yes and no
I have concluded that there are some people in this server that are muy big brain
that is all.
thanks :)
in not talking about u necessarily but ur welcome i guess
ok
also i wasn't being sarcastic some people are legit muy smart
this is america, please speak english
no this is discord
wait frick he got me
I'm pretty bad at this type of game too. I have God mode at max and still can't get to the end with the gun...😎
I'll try that.😎@tacit ember
im sorry but you cant ðŸ˜
how long have you been playing?
wait why aphro special
and rocket
beucase its stronk
I usually go with artemis special if i am going for cluster bomb
its like the basically the same anyways
but with artemis you can buff you special more with boons
I would use aphro attack and artemis special
but zeus
Assuming you use keepsakes, is it hard to get every single god at least once during a run?
i dont even think thats possible
But that’s only the keepsake guaranteed ones, what about the ones you run into naturally?
yes thats the thing
I think that you will only get the keepsake ones
u can only have 4 naturaly
i think
so 5 is with keepsakes
in theory
maybe u can get 4 gods in tartarus
I’m going to have to test this
get 1 more in asphodel
if you use an athena keepsake, zeus keep sake, ares keepsake, and ahpro keepsake, i think that you will only get those four gods the rest of the run
That’s 7
so in total 7 gods potentially?
That sounds more correct
and two shops potentially
shops can't give you new gods
They have for me
?
only in tartarus
thats it
i think if you buy a new god in tartarus, you wont get a new god in asphodel
i was ovoiding ares
maybe
probobly
At least one time I avoided a god and they never showed up as an option again
Then say luck
everything that has some randomness people just say "rng"
and i mean technicaly yes
but still
it sometimes feels out of place
yeah
some people dont know the difference between "you're" and "your"
and de died becuase of pore timing
Off topic but
lmao
I love your avvie, haven’t played Battle Cats in years but I love it
I had like 13 Uber Super Rares
ok
Good discussion 
nah thats just the enter key
Wait what
How’d you post an image
its a gif
Oh, so those preset ones?
yeah i think so
imigur
Not the same
wat
stop
Just testing it don’t worry
ok
Couldn’t delete it fast enough >_<;
hold shift and delete
what is that
anyways
ima delet that befor i get baned
ban
Links to videos/images with <> are fine right?
I have seen 3 demeter boons and seen rare crop 0 times
It happens 
bruh im dumb
i think this 
I feel you
pain
muy big brain
cerebro es MUY grande
yes
SÃ
hey, do you guys ever play music in the house of Hades?
the one that you buy from the contractor, i mean
sometimes and like just lamet of orpheus tbh
good song to walk around in the house with
am i the only one that thinks its too loud?
Like, louder than the in-run music
everywhere i go(around the house), the music is the loudest as it can be
yea it is a bit loud tbh
I've heard that the volume differs when you enter your bedchamber, and it can barely be heard when at the balcony, is that true?
yeaa, thats how the music is in the game if its orpheus or the music stand
just really loud in the main house and it gets quieter as you go to do a run
its a nice touch
but man is it loud in the house
Is there any use for diamond after unlocking Erebus gate
I got the theme, music and some expensive cosmetic
Is that all?
I see, thanks
just to swap into ambrosia and blood
how many times do you need to escape to finish the story?
What shield aspect is best for speedrunning?
Beo?
||ten times||
chaos with merciful end has some good damage
@grand crystal no, I meant I'm guessing beo is the best speed run option
||Which cast is best with it then?||
aphro or artemis is always fast with beo
i seem to get unlucky with styg and don't get bonus casts
especially since it never lodges
I just realized how bad that is until you get a few extra casts
styg with extra casts is amazing
I usually do prefer it except with beo and the bow i forgot the name of
hera?? i tried stuff like hunting blades with stygian on hera and didnt like it much
so like i never use stygian soul
I had hunting blades with stygian on hera and killed ||Hades|| in like five attacks
Every time I shot he got to another shield
It was crazy
so ive been wondering
what is the point of the darkness gem things after you've maxed out all the mirror upgrades
just trading?
seems random to me - I've had rooms with one wave of 6 enemies, and other rooms with 3 waves of over a dozen enemies
Hello I am experiencing a bug in the game when I use the fists. Where would I post about this bug?
Thank you!
yw :)
Nice
but I couldn't max the hearts with hermes so far
how long is it gonna take exactly?
Most story events have happened regarding Sisyphus, euridyce, Orpheus and others
and I've had max relationship with all gods except hermes
I've been playing since December and I just got him unlocked yesterday
Big oof then I guess
I think there's a prerequisite where you have to complete a run using the Lambent Plume the whole time? I did that and then his hearts unlocked the next time I spoke to him
Plume, 3 stars
me over here whos done a evade build with zag fist
oh does anyone take ruthless reflex tbh??
like ig if you get hermes dash quickly but
eh i just dont like it
what with all that 50% dash chance for 2 sec after near miss dash
oh yea i dont think i took that in the run since i never got it but yea being able to hit 100% evade would be epic
i just need to try it again

since 15% from fists, 30% from evade boon, around 30% from plume
aye aye
and the extra evade after near miss boon
and thats like 50%
so yea
you can if you get lucky with the evade boons
aye
then no one can hit you
Dang I avoided using lambent plume for like 50 hours

Now I gotta use it to get Hermes's dialogue
like pierced butterfly it takes the whole run to really get mileage out of it
oh yea
it's good tho, because you can play at your pace at least without taking damage
never triggers for me, like it took so long to get ||companions|| thanks to dumb rng
lmao same
||after all that jazz with big dinner party and shizz||
Also another question
yea that took forever for me too like run 77
Is this game gonna have a DLC?
(90 plus lol)
probably not tbh, sgg hasnt done anything like that in the past i dont think
For a while I didn't use the Pierced Butterfly because whenever I took damage it felt like I was letting Than down 😔
Haha
It's fun proving Than wrong every time by beating his score tho
whenever he approaches
"DEATH APPROACHES"
Story wise though the effect of Than's keepsake is absolutely hilarious, I can just imagine him going "Well, if I can't get this idiot to stop throwing himself into the line of fire then at least I can reward him for not getting hurt"
whenever i get the death approaches i just think "hey hon how ya doing" and then i beat him in the thing
hehe lol
Cute way to keep Zag safe lol
Meg on the other hand yooooo
extra damage BELOW 30% health

You know I just realized it but that's an interesting contrast between Thanatos' keepsake and Megaera's, the Pierced Butterfly rewards you for avoiding getting hurt whereas the Skull Earring kicks in when you're getting close to death
I finally unlocked true bond
The chibi is super adorable
Makes me want to max them all up
I started typing that before you sent that message 😒 /lh
To my despair at how many of the bloody items required
Mine was Athena
I mean my first chibi
Sorry to disturb, but do you understand how's calculated darkness-related boons when stacked?
I befriended Athena first because of what Nyx said about her being the key to fixing Hades' relationship with the olympians
Oh wait I get it, yea
two very different approaches LOL
I was thinking of poseidon and chaos
It's actually when you're in a run
yes those two
they give good percentage of extra rewards for jewels
and darkness
usually it's given in percentage format
and I recommend using weapons that give extra 20% darkness per run
(those that glow purplish when you pick em up behind skelly)
I dunno how in stacked case tho hmmm
I got 700 darkness once in Elysium I think
I'm wondering if it's
price x 1.20 x 1.50 (with poseidon) x 1.68 (chaos1) x 1.65(chaos 2)
or with +
i think it adds all of the percentages and applies the sum but idk
i also dont know how damage calc works
Neither of my calculation are right, I quite don't understand how it works blblbllb
Yea there's gotta be a base no. of darkness on which the percentages act
I remember one day I won 5000+ darkness against the last boss, but I didn't repeat that for a long time now
hmmm
I doubt if I face a bug or adjustment or else
no it should be a crazy high percentage you picked
maybe 200% plus from chaos
and another absurd no from Poseidon
Also, your pfp is Gris, right? 
Maybe I'm misremembering too

i mean you could always just try lots of combinations to find the calc
but thats a lot of work
I mean if ya get base darkness of 10 from a room and the multiplier is 20% it becomes 12
so any successive percentage stacks on the respective darkness amount after the %age increase
but like in what order
in the order you get them I think?
does the 20% go first then posiedon then chaos or what
ah
i mean that would make sense but maybe be a handful to code
i would expect a set order for ease of coding
Hmmm?
why does it mater
I mean its just the base darkness amount * 1.2
or whatever the modifier is
idk im bad with coding percents
its multiplicative
cuz someone asked and now im curious
.
I writing an example
(1+(1 x Y))+(1+(1 x Y))xZ
Is there a chaos boon that increases darkness?
y being first increse z being second
or just like
if first once is 20%
and second is 30#
%
its just
When cleaning a room you win 10 darkness if you don't have any boons.
If you have two chaos boons, one with +65% and the other with +58%
You can have
10x65% = 6.5 10x58% = 5.8 10 + 5.8 + 6.5 = 22.3
Or
10 x 1.65 x 1.58 = 26.07
You can also stack the weapons bonus and poseidon's boons
How the calculation is done affect the results.
Does boons are applied on the base reward
or are they applied on total amount
it does matter
so it multiplies after another, like 10 becomes 12 and that 12 becomes 15-16 ish??
wat
so with my example
would be
10 x 1.2 x 1.3
12 x 1.3
15.6
so probobly round up?
16
but the question is in what order does it stack, like does posiedon go first or chaos
doesnt matter
not really the order
the order doesn't make a diference
because if it's calculated with multiplication, order does not matter
but
if it is not by multiplication
if its miltiplication and addition then it would be dumb
i'll take you're example VeryGoodYesYes
my brain small
and order would matter a lil bit
k
The order would matter tho
no
Yes, actually
The base number will increase depending on the percentage
if boon's bonus are calculated with only the basic number
The first boon make you win 10x0.2 = 2
The second boon make you win 10x03 = 3
the final result is 10 + 2 + 3 = 15
the product thus received would then stack up with the second boon
boi ts multiplication it doesn't matter
if the orders were reversed it would matter mate
10 darkness (20% plus) then plug in 50% more from chaos
15 =/= 15.6, so it does matter how it is calculated
I'm not talking about order, I'm talking about method
hehe math go brrrrrr
did you read my example VeryGoodYesYes?
lets say an event has 20% chance of happening when you do something
yes
and you do it 2 times
what is the change of it happening?
40%
nerp
its 20%+(80%*20%)
this is bisese the point
but still
10 (base) X 20%= 12 (added with base 10)
12 (new base) X 50%(chaos boon)= 18 (added with base 12)
i thought we were using 20% and 30% as example but ok
dud
methamaticccccc
Indeed
i found this gif and thought it was funny
ah okie
yes
communicative property be dumb
math dumb
i dont like math
i just like big numbers
the latter
What does mathematics entail?
Oui 🇫🇷
big brain
le fish french music starts playing
in discord land we say methamatic
It’s maths
Each time someone say "omelette du fromage", a frenchy die
idek what du fromage even means

just sounds funny
in spain they say las matemáticas
cheese omlit
Litteraly it meens "with cheese", so you're trying to say "cheesy omelette"
but the correct words are "Omelette AU fromage"
🧀
omlet wiht cheese
an yes all italians do the hand thing
if u no do hand thing
what are you
not italian
smh
wat
Why doesn't the order matter?
I mean we follow the BODMAS rule
2x3=3x2
communitive property
this is pure multipication
doesnt matter how you multiply
i think its aclled italic
like slanted text
idk
anyways
its because * is used for multiply
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
AXB=CXD
wat
that literally has 5 variables
Ik but that addition part has me confused
or is x the multiplay sign
there is no addition
its just Y x 120% x 150%
y being the amount of darkness u get
OH
FRICK
stop swor
I got it lol
ah damn
I just been used to doing any percentages this way that I forgot what they basically were

I understood this mate, that's it
yes
wat
Hmm?
ok
uhu
hehe mathematic
singular math
can do aerodynamics but not forth grade math
lmao
anyway, thanks mates. I'm gonna go sleep, it's like 2 AM
to many nights (or is it days) out with the boys
lmao
Why are u guys doing maths?? I’m so confused
same thing
ah
its weird some times with damage
just additive percents in the order received??
ight
yes
also this is why u cant get 100% doge chance
u can get very close but not quite there
but
i thought
with 30% from plume assumitivley, 15% from fist, 30% from epic boon
and the 50% from the near miss boon
i mean
wait a sec
lets prosume
and 30% is original doge change
then its 30%+(70%*15%)
70% being chance of not doging
30%+(70%x15%)+(70%x85%x30%)
30%+(70%x15%)+(70%x85%x30%)+(70%x85%x70%x50%)
i asume this is how it works
but idk
maybe its addittive
that would be super busted tho
u can get like 70% from hermes keepsake
like strait up doge chance
because after everyroom the keepsake adds on it self
that would be super op
Thanks you pals ^-^
yea today i discovered i cant do math and thats probably why im behind 5 assignments in alg 2
but hades is epic
Are yall still debating the percentages
it wasnt debating my brain is just small
like an almond
and smooth
like bowling ball
so with 30% from plume assumitivley, 15% from fist, 30% from epic boon
and the 50% from the near miss boon
would give u
0.79175
doge chance
so like 80%
79%
if its rounded up
yes
unless it is additive
we'd have to ask sgg for clarification tho
and that would be epic
you go into a parallel universe
i would say
that you would enter an universe where the more doge chance u have the more likely u'll get hit
damn
Dodge is additive :3
attacks home in on u
POG
With Chaos’ Theme bought, I’ve now purchased absolutely everything from the House Contractor.
wait what
epic
Now I need ~70 more blood to max all weapons and aspects
thats, a lot
Yeah but 3 out of 4 aspects are maxed out on every weapon
Only need to max out one more for each weapon
Also because I bought everything from the House Contractor, all keys, nectar, gems, and ambrosia can be traded for more blood
not alot of blood? or alot of blood?
Sort of
i feel this message
because it is 15 per aspect
WAIT IS IT
Isn’t it 14?
damn thats epic
I maxed the default and hidden aspects of them all plus one other aspect
The hidden aspects are expensive arent they
and the zag aspects I thought were 1 each
I haven’t maxed Poseidon, Achilles, Chaos, Hera, Demeter, or Hestia, but I’ve maxed out every other aspect besides those.
zags are 5, 1 per level, 1st aspect is 1 2 3 4 5, second is 2 3 4 5 6 i think, and legendary is 5 all around
I thought legendary was 3 all the way
hidden is 3
Aspects 2 and 3 cost the same right?
is the second aspect 2-6?
i think so
god just go on the wiki
I'm missing keepsakes #10, 13, and 15
*opens chrome
which ones are those
computer fan go vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
idk look ut wiki
so the maz needed are 5 for zag, 15 for 1st and legendary, and 16 for 2nd
wait i think i know
What about 3rd?
52 for all aspects for one wep
when i say first i mean like chiron for bow
2nd hera
@shut wasp|| its demiter, Persephone and hades probobly||
@grand crystal that profile picture is mad cursed btw
hehe lol
wat
i can use the other form if you would like
its pokeman
what happened to him tho
but slug form
not origin and hes just sitting there
slug form
Giratina dont look like that
its third form
I just realized what it was 
slug form
imma change it
SLUG FORM
oh im missing skelly ares and athena
that is so much worse
the boy looks happy without the menacing gold and wings
hehe dino
this is even worse
also i think i just got the true ending accidentally
||hades just let me through instead of fighting, persephone came back, credits rolled||
:3
i cant believe this
but wiht 6 legs
yea that was your ||10th win then||
yes its on ur 10th clear
oh i thought there was some other requirement for it
nerp
no, just win 10 times
Now you need the epilogue
lmao no
does it count as a clear
yes
hence why greece in the codex needs 10 times of you going there
i didnt get the victory screen
it should
so the heat guage goes up then?
lmao
it does
it should
when moderators exist
wait nvm it did yeah
yeah can we please keep it appropriate
ofc ofc my b
kk
stygius is the only weapon i havent cleared with yet but ||hades just let me through for free|| with it
yea thats what i did for shield
i knew that it ended at 10 runs and i just took shield on 10th
speeking of shild
ive cleared everything with 1 heat now, everything on 2 heat except sword
Seems like everyone who doesn't know about the 10 clears, including myself, gets to him with an absolutely insane build then he just lets them pass hahah
but that run i actually was ready to beat him
yea
chaos is no longer my favorit shild aspect
why not
its the only one i use and thats like never
because ||beowulf||
You get the last one? 
for a kiss of styx
so good
ah yea
It's so stronk
aphro cast
makes sense
and im like "yeah im def gonna die now"
but i didnt know about the 10th clear thing lmao
but since you purged the legendary boon you got the achievement
imagine playing on steam
im on switch theres no achievements rip
i have it on epic and switch
u gat achevement for perge legendary
epic since early access
imagin not playing hades mobile
imagine playing anything on epic
ok i got transistor for free
imagin not getting freegames from epic
epic is bad unless its the "it was free for 3 days once"
This tbh
u know ark was free a while a go
i want to pay for it tho, made me feel bad after beating it and having to pay nothing
and gta v
i get a bunch of games on epic when theyre free but then never play them
but transistor, i need to pay money
it was
i just tried a zeus cast build
i mean
i bought celeste on steam full price when it was free on epic
it was really good
im all for free stuf
because i didnt know it was free
LMAO
i bought it on switch, very good game
but then i bought it again on switch later lmao i wanted to give maddy thorson my money
I got Hades on Steam instead of Switch because I thought it was going to be a game that played better with mouse and keyboard, like Gungeon.
same with hollow knight, i bought it 3 times because i wanted to give team cherry money
im advertising hades to everyone i meet
Because this way they also get cool stuff
lmao
i willl literaly give them the money to buy it
yeah this way i get to play hollow knight on 3 different platforms lmao
Silksong hype thooo
i told my friend that he should try hades
👀
i still have a spare $20 switch gift card from christmas and im debating if i wanna buy someone hades or not
Do people listen to you? I feel like anything I advertise, after I tell them, I ruined any chance of them ever playing it.
and he was like hades isn't that the beyblade thing
lol mee too
i convinced my brother to get hades because "its like terraria"
buy me terraria
even though its nothing like terraria
XD
hes like "its nothing like terraria but i still love it"
So I figured out why we were having trouble calculating the blood btw
yo ur brother playes terraria
At least he still liked it aha
The wiki guide assumes you haven’t unlocked level 1 yet
Terraria is so good tho
yes
my friends are used to games with CRAZY graphics and ROTATABLE cameras and CASUAL GAMING so they don't wanna get it
terraria gang asemble
Yoyo gang
summoner gang
I like Dragalia Lost but no one I interact with seems to.
with my frind
but also melee gang
summoner not crap anymore
And anytime I tell someone they shrug it off.
yaya
i underestimated just how much more fun terraria is with like a group of 4 people
Yeah for sure
2 of them had played before and 2 of them were new, we beat moonlord last week it was pretty epic
but both of the new players caught on pretty quick
terraria has lore and i hate it
we were on expert mode
but i might buy it
terraria lore is eh
i did melee and they did all the other classes (2 of them did range)
i know right
Now beat Empress of Light during the day.
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