#h1-discussion

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wind oar
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It’s gonna be harder than the boonless run

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A lot harder

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The boonless run only took me 2 tries

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This one will be brutal

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The worst thing is that I’ll only have one dash

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Anyway, see ya

somber star
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Cya

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Is it just me, or do visits with ||persephone|| get progressively shorter and shorter

dull rose
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i want to start ||heat runs||. which one gives me the least "trouble" ? 😄

somber star
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Spoilertag ||heat||

olive wind
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idk but you certainly should

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sorry to interrupt but

somber star
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And I would say a good starting point is ||Extreme measures or the timed one||

somber star
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Although be warned, ||EM1|| is fairly difficult, but good to get used to imo

hollow hawk
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Final boss acknowledges it

cloud tusk
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Is Lambent Plume's time for encounters adjusted as you increase the heat?

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I.e., if enemies now have 40% more health, do you have more time?

deep pivot
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I think not Hermessymbol

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So step on it hermes

rapid forum
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I just read the patch notes (big thanks to the team) to which I realized, ||EM3 doesn't have a tag team attack||

cloud tusk
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Well...that's a bummer. Seems like it makes that keepsake way less usable at higher heat :/

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Battles already take longer from the outset of a run at heat 30. It's felt impossible to get a tick on the keepsake.

rapid forum
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tbf, if it's adjusted to the amount of ||heat||, it makes it very easy to do high ||heat||

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why go eris when you can be untouchable with plume + zag fist

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oh man now I wanna max dodge run

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brb

cloud tusk
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I don't think it would need to be scaling 1:1, but I only got 2 ticks on my way up last run. Sort of out of options to make it "faster" to slay folks at that point.

thorny island
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I just discovered a super weird interaction

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||If you're fighting Hades and his casts hit one of the enemies he summons, it gets stuck in them and you can release the cast with aspect of poseidon.||

undone frost
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hey does artemis dashstrike boon affect malphons rolling knuckle ?

wind oar
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In the name of Hades! I hereby declare myself to be good at the game!

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I beat the game talentless.

brisk trail
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Eh? nice job.

wind oar
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Talentless means no mirror of night

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I beat it with none of that

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Where the heck is everyone?

brazen lagoon
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idk

wind oar
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Bizarre

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I'm used to servers always being active no matter the time.

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Though it seems as though this one slows down a lot around this time.

runic parrot
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it's night in the western hemisphere

vapid narwhal
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NA is asleep, EU is not waking up

runic parrot
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so that's probably one of the reasons

vapid narwhal
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and not a lot of Asian people here (I'm probably one of the few)

hollow hawk
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asia gang here too

wind oar
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I'm in Canada

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Western Canada has a funny timezone

digital python
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ye NA is asleep unless ur me and ur up at 1 am for some reason

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y am i up

wind oar
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Go to sleep

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Or play Hades

digital python
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ah but im blasting sad anime EDs

wind oar
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I choose the latter

brazen lagoon
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asia gang whats good

digital python
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if i play hades im rlly never going to sleep

wind oar
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Same

digital python
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despite rlly wanting too ... i just got new headphones soe im excited to hear the voice acting w/ the

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them*

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my old bluetooth headphones didnt have an aux cord so

narrow hemlock
# wind oar Where the heck is everyone?

the amount of active users in the server is far far smaller than the amount of people actually on this server. slow activity is pretty common here, especially around now 👁️ the hades channels stay more active in general but this is normal honestly

brazen lagoon
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yeah theres a lot of people here that barely even talk in chat

digital python
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im just here cuz none of my friends play this game & i need like. someone to talk to it abt lmao

narrow hemlock
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the hades discussion channel is definitely a prime place to look for hades convo :v

wind oar
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Ah

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Yeah

brisk trail
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I would've thought it'd be #pyre

rugged sierra
thorny island
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Congratulations!

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I couldn't deal with not having 2 dashes

rapid forum
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here even though my friends play Hades because they smite me every time I post a success on ||high heats||

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cause they can't dusa

night harbor
shrewd helm
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@rapid forum how high do u go

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Or how high do ppl go on this game

rapid forum
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just ||32 heats|| dusa

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peeps here can go ||45 heats||

shrewd helm
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I just cleared ||heat 3|| and it wasn't too bad but I can see how intense it can get potentially sense all that's left is aspects

rapid forum
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but I'm a mere mortal

shrewd helm
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I can't get stronger just improve skill in the game other than that

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That's wild

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Is there a current record

rapid forum
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current highest ||heat|| ever won is 60

shrewd helm
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Man that's almost all of them

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You know what weapon they used

rapid forum
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hidden bow

shrewd helm
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Awesome. Only hidden ones I got so far is exagryph and the spear

hollow hawk
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they also used a mod

shrewd helm
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Oh

hollow hawk
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known as "being tailesque"

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:D

shrewd helm
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Like what kind of mod

hollow hawk
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im joking lol

rapid forum
hollow hawk
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they didnt use any mod

shrewd helm
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Ah lol

versed verge
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Wait like the dude who posted this month's challenge?

rapid forum
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what astonished me on ||high heat run|| is that most successful run I've had are with weapons I dislike

versed verge
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Or does he call himself the same name as a joke?

brazen lagoon
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Tailesque is the dude that posted this months challenge run yes

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He also holds WR for multiple things

versed verge
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I always find it cool when im in discords with like "famous" for lack of a better word people even if I've yet to interact with them

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Like I'm also in the ganondorf smash bros offical discord and like 3 of the 4 best ganon mains are in the server and I've talked to all of them at least once and then irl im buddies with the best roy player in Indiana

brazen lagoon
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That's pretty cool

shrewd helm
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Hey I can tell zagreus is getting better on the lyre

brazen lagoon
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A streamer read some of my chats once

shrewd helm
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It went from terrible to an actual note

brazen lagoon
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Closest I've come to meeting fame

versed verge
rapid forum
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my closest was playing alongside the streamer and messed with his timing

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he was like "y u do dis, fluffy bun?"

versed verge
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Ive beaten the greatest Roy player in indiana's mii brawler

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But enough famous people. Hades

rapid forum
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I can't get away from Hades

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as much as I try

nocturne slate
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I'll be completely honest I was playing for the first time, absolutely loved the game. It gave me Bastion vibes, didn't even check to see it was by the same people

trail pendant
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I was able to talk to ||Bouldy|| for the first time yesterday

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He and Sisyphus are my fave characters

loud lintel
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Cerbie was my favorite character before ||Bouldy|| came along

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now they share the top spot

hushed pumice
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I embarrassed a huge LOL streamer once heheh

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Kicked his ass in a matchup he should've won handily and this was top 100 playerbase back in the day

tepid plover
flat halo
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I just realized something

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Charon discount also affects Titan blood and diamond

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Anyway, how likely is it that you get to borrow money from mid-shops

rapid forum
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well it's RNG, just keep visiting the shop

flat halo
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Well, I guess I will always go for shop unless hammer then

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Unless it’s at the end

loud lintel
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1 in 3 chance every mid shop i believe

rapid forum
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Reminds me of that one time I wanted to fight ||charon|| didn't get it, got so mad, I beat that time's PB

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The power of spite

delicate tide
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hi are there any house contractor stuff that unlocks more lore? or issit all cosmetic only? (besides the work orders)

craggy barn
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not really, no

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the lyre unlocks a very minor sidequest and the painting in the lounge unlocks a new line of dialogue but that's about it

lusty cedar
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Hi guys I decided to play a hades again. Now just need to wait for the download to finish

flat halo
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Guys

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I discovered this

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The pact does not affect the price of diamond and blood

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Huzzah

lusty cedar
ivory geode
brazen lagoon
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yikes

delicate tide
hushed pumice
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CF is somewhat of a trap, don't rush into it while you can find heat elsewhere

runic parrot
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once you get used to it ||EM3|| is basically free heat

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and also ||HL and FO1||

delicate tide
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wait i dont know any of the short forms HAHAHA.

runic parrot
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||EM == emphatic measures (new forms to bosses), HL == hard labor (increased enemy damage), FO = forced overtime (increased enemy speed)||

brazen lagoon
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||its extreme measures not emphatic||

delicate tide
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woah i dont see how any of them are free heat. sounds scary.

brazen lagoon
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||EM1-2 is honestly pretty easy once you get used to it||

runic parrot
delicate tide
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im still at 1-2 heats for most of my weapons so im using uh ||jury and em1||

brazen lagoon
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||JS is pretty good for inexperienced players||

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||i'd recommend TD as well if you're not too slow||

runic parrot
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definitely a learning curve but you'll get used to it once you run enough times with them

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||TD is great for training yourself not to be slow||

delicate tide
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||TD|| is kinda stressful 😊 ||i can clear most rounds in about 7minutes? but i usually take forever on hades, would suck to make it all the way then lose the round cos i OT, i assume thats how TD works||

runic parrot
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||if you have leftover time from the previous regions, it gets added, so say you have TD1 which gives you 9 minutes per region, and you finish tartarus in 7 minutes. those remaining 2 minutes get added to the 9 minutes you're allowed with in asphodel||

delicate tide
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ohhhhhh thats cool

runic parrot
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||styx isnt that long anyway, usually||

delicate tide
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side note ||it feels like the story is coming to a close with persephone asking me to stay in hades but ive been hoarding nectar to SIMP for than and have not progressed in archilles, nyx or orpheus's storylines welp||

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oh also, to unlock ||hidden aspects, do i have to be equipping the 5 titan blood weapons when i speak to the respective gods? im assuming poseidon for sword, chaos for shield etc||

unreal shard
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hmm i just met Theseus and Asterius, any advice or tips ?

runic parrot
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keep aware of the timing theseus does on his spear launches

craggy barn
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beat up asterius before even going for theseus at all

delicate tide
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kite around the perimeter of the arena, dash to dodge the pink circle when it darkens
dash through, not away from asterius and spam backstab
lure asterius to wall, dash through him to stun when hes charging
^ and down asterius before getting theseus to half

craggy barn
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at the start of his second phase during his god call, theseus is also totally vulnerable

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the attacks aren't too hard to dodge but are still dangerous

mighty needle
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Haha, I don't think anybody has ever called FO 'free heat' before

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In fact, that's one of if not the last heat option I'd take

runic parrot
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hey i said IF you get used to it

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which is pretty hard yeah

spice hearth
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||FO1|| is pretty easy once you get used to it

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||FO2|| is when it gets crazy

mighty needle
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FO2 is almost untouchable

runic parrot
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||FO2 flame wheels or numbskulls|| 😩

hushed pumice
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||Fo is never free heat|| but getting used to it definitely lessens it

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The last|| heat|| you want is usually|| Routine Inspection||

mighty needle
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I would honestly prefer ||RI|| to ||FO||

spice hearth
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remember to spoiler the ||heats|| guys

runic parrot
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i might start training myself to get used to ||FO2|| so I can finally tackle ||32 heat||

plucky phoenix
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me reading these spoilers not knowing what's going on DusaSticker

brisk trail
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WTF guyz??? Zagreus is ||Demeter||'s ||grandson|| ?

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||Kore||... so this is her actual name...

hushed pumice
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Yes

brisk trail
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Wonder where all of this is going.

mighty needle
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||Well her 'actual name' is still Persephone||

hushed pumice
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Good places

brisk trail
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So this is why ||Zagreus has red blood. Because his grandfather was mortal||

mighty needle
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||A person's 'actual name' is usually what they prefer to be called||

brisk trail
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I am on my 9th clear
Please pity me don't spoil

hushed pumice
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Nothing dangerous here

brisk trail
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Pffff XD
The bomb has been defused

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Now i think i like ||Demeter|| even more.

hushed pumice
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You know what you should do, the

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||10th clear ||

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Go for it

brisk trail
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Where are all of those ||grandmother|| memes lol

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My sweet zaggy, you will eat all of those cookies or i will get really mad

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When you ask your mother for money vs when you ask your grandmother for money

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LOLL

brisk trail
# hushed pumice ||10th clear ||

Roger that sir. I think the game will end if i do that. The truth, credit roll, and those stuff.
Please do not correct me if i am wrong. Do not say anything. All of you.

hushed pumice
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Good luck

runic parrot
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may the fates be on your side

brisk trail
stark onyx
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triple bomb ||lucifer|| has no right to be as fun as is it, wanna combine it with hazard bomb someday

eternal radish
unreal shard
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guys is the story built on a real god's stories ?

versed vessel
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not really

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Well yes but actually no

loud lintel
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The characters are based on the gods of Greek myth but the actual storyline is not

versed vessel
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Also it's based on Greek myths which doesn't really have 1 canon anyway

runic parrot
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its based on greek mythology but doesn't really follow any stories in the greek canons

versed vessel
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just have fun with your own head canon

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that is the spirit of Myths

mighty needle
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Zagreus isn't one of Greg's OCs, if that's what you're wondering

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He was an actual god

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Just an incredibly obscure one

versed vessel
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Zag is Dio is some versions

flat halo
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Is there an OC in this game?

versed vessel
runic parrot
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greek myths are just like that, myths, they're not one specific overarching story, just a blob of amorphous sludge made up of local myths

mighty needle
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No OCs

gritty roost
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Dusa?

mighty needle
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It's kind of hard to discuss Zagreus' origins without spoiling the game because a lot of it comes through in references

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Is Dusa not just... Medusa? Maid Dusa?

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Her name is a pun

versed vessel
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Zag is just weird in real life myth lol

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Same with Dionisus tbh

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remember when dionisus has basically a murderous cult in a mountain?

gritty roost
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probably Bouldy then bouldy

mighty needle
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In some interpretations Zagreus was a son of Hades, in others he WAS Hades, in others a random chthonic hunting god, in others a form of Dionysus... etc. etc.

versed vessel
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yeah that happened

mighty needle
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There's no 'basically' when it comes to the murderousness of the maenads

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They tore people and animals apart during orgiastic rituals

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Regularly

versed vessel
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Well it's ancient people

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i tried to make it less horible

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the fact there is no Aspect of Heracles is weird tho

craggy barn
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if "dryads" are pretty much everywhere and they have different names depending on their domains, what would eurydice be called? a chthonad?

versed vessel
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like Heracles should have a boe Aspect or something

flat halo
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Any tips for using shields

versed vessel
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Block and smash

flat halo
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Died on no heat

versed vessel
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Chaos shield op

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Duo Ares Athena

flat halo
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?

mighty needle
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Constantly bull rush because it's really fun?

versed vessel
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Special Ares

flat halo
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What’s the boon

runic parrot
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so... dryad

versed vessel
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Open the codex

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it should show you what boons are required

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plan your own stuffs

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for me i just athena attack and dash with ares special

craggy barn
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i mean she is technically a wood nymph but now that she's in the underworld then what?

versed vessel
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if i get their Duo it's ggez

runic parrot
versed vessel
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best hammer is like the one makes you charge your shield faster and the one blocking gives mote famage i think?

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at least for me i like those 2

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oh and explosive return

craggy barn
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exists***

versed vessel
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@flat halo that is how i used it at least

craggy barn
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explosive return is really only good on chaos

versed vessel
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Yeah

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1 of those 3

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you may not want Sudden rush that much

flat halo
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@versed vessel that’s the literal boons I got

versed vessel
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explosive return

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is very fun

flat halo
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I mean hammers

versed vessel
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Well then there is only one thing left

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scroll up i talked about boons

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or just hunting blade it works on everything that isn't Beowulf

somber star
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I underestimated demeter cast

runic parrot
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once demeter cast gets going, it gets going

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esp with the one duo that tracks enemies

versed vessel
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I still don't like that cast much tbh

craggy barn
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glacial glare is amazing if you have stygian soul and scales amazingly with poms

somber star
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Yeah stygian soul made it great

versed vessel
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but what do i know i always use Poseidon zaglol

craggy barn
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if i have mirage shot and glacial glare do the duplicate beams still apply chill?

runic parrot
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i dont think so but its been a while since i've used it

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bad news tacked on also makes it good

runic parrot
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doing a special only run and ||bouldy|| gives me an attack bonus :')

unborn remnant
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||bouldy||

runic parrot
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this is terrible

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ive only just realised this now

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didnt even get triple bomb

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what a ripoff

outer dew
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R u using ||lucy||?

runic parrot
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yes

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with ares on special

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with how spread out enemies are in elysium i probably shouldnt have added ||FO1||

manic moat
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||yoo what about hades return to the underworld where like zagreus gets stuck on the surface and has to fight real life stuff to get back to his home||

runic parrot
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oh god... ||em3 theseus...||

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nvm he was easy

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||asterius was the hard one||

fleet narwhal
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||beyblade, let it rip||

hearty bramble
manic moat
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no that's the thing

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he can't

hearty bramble
hearty bramble
craggy barn
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you have to wait for the beams to expire though

manic moat
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||he can but he respawns on the surface only, in persephone's garden probably||

craggy barn
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and if you get grasp from chaos infernal is pretty much outclassed by stygian already

runic parrot
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i finished the special "only" hidden rail run

hearty bramble
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ohh interesting

runic parrot
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it couldve gone better but couldve gone worse too

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i wouldnt recommend doing it

hearty bramble
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oo nice!! i still am not used to using that aspect's special

manic moat
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why is the helth reduction so much

craggy barn
runic parrot
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the chain reaction of explosions is fun

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i mostly relied on doom to do the bulk of my damage against bosses though

steep tusk
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Henlo

manic moat
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if you can get it with triple bomb and artemis special it's a good example

runic parrot
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i didnt get triple bomb 😔

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and i didnt even get the ares boon that lets you stack additional damage to your doom

manic moat
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F

copper canopy
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So, I have the perfect idea for DLC that should be added to this game.

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Hear me out:

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Event and Dialogue Pack: Adds even more dialogue to the game

swift mist
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i just got to ||hades and he didnt fight me, he just gave me the blood. no end card came up with the times, what if that happened on a run?||

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||and im curious as to what will happen after this||

runic parrot
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keep going!

swift mist
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okay c:

rugged sierra
swift mist
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lool rip

hearty bramble
runic parrot
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maybe i shouldnt take ME for hidden sword

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bad idea

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esp with my only athena is on special

steep tusk
runic parrot
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yep just died on the final boss

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haphazard setup

grand shale
grand shale
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ye

runic parrot
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sword and bow better

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:)

steep tusk
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Zeus still owes me the secret rail aspect

grand shale
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the bow is literally the most garbage weapon in the game

grand shale
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the sword is pretty good tho

runic parrot
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sounds like someone who hasnt fully utilised the bow to its full extent

outer dew
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WHATTTTTT

grand shale
hollow hawk
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@grand shale blocking you rn btw

brazen lagoon
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I used to think that as well

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Then I started using it

grand shale
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lel

outer dew
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Bow gang rise

hollow hawk
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1 blocked message

grand shale
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arthur sword is good

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ay but fr tho. what drugs are you taking to make you think the bow is a good weapon

runic parrot
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all of the swords are decent

grand shale
runic parrot
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i like eris and hidden rail, they're neat

grand shale
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o wait i just read ur name

runic parrot
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but poseidon and chiron... damn

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they're neater

thin lynx
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The bow is my favorite weapon, not just because of the possibilities but also the gameplay involved. Having to calculate and position yourself for the shots instead of spamming mindlessly. The spear is a close second

hollow hawk
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hera bow + trippy shot clears rooms in under like 10 seconds

outer dew
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||Rama|| bow is my favorite

hollow hawk
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hidden bow has literally done highest heat possible in the game

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theres a reason why

outer dew
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It is so much fun

thin lynx
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Edited

outer dew
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Also learning how to powershot is important with the bow

runic parrot
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i couldnt get used to the hidden bow

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the charge is too slow for me

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then again, i never maxed it out

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so i couldnt use it to the fullest extent either

outer dew
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You have to time the attack

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Like position yourself

hollow hawk
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i was powershotting way too much

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dash strikes are literally the only thing you should do on most bows

outer dew
hollow hawk
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ehh

outer dew
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Ive stopped powershot with ||rama|| but with hera and zag bow i do

hollow hawk
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you shouldnt be powershotting with chiron

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oh, with hera you can

outer dew
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yeah

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I dont

hollow hawk
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yeah yeah

runic parrot
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aw but i like powershotting

outer dew
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Also never take twin shot with chrion

runic parrot
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though i guess it is unneeded for chiron

outer dew
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I took it yesterday and it was miserable

runic parrot
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one issue i have with the bow is that my inputs sometimes dont click

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like right after i dash i cant immediately shoot

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is that like, actually a feature or is my inputs just not registering

grand shale
outer dew
grand shale
hollow hawk
outer dew
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That happened with rama for me and I was so freaked hout

hollow hawk
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also talos fists compared to chiron?

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like

scarlet gull
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does talos AOE?

runic parrot
outer dew
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Talos is like the worst aspect of fists

scarlet gull
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like does it pull in multiple enemies

runic parrot
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i was going insane

scarlet gull
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or only one

outer dew
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Its that way for every weapon

grand shale
hollow hawk
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comparing talos to chiron is like comparing a sword to a gun

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chiron provides range

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you can be farther from final boss' attacks

grand shale
hollow hawk
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or hell, any boss' attacks

scarlet gull
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can talos pull in multiple enemies?

runic parrot
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i dont think so

hollow hawk
scarlet gull
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rip

hollow hawk
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talos is worst fists yeah

grand shale
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nah

hollow hawk
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demeter is best

runic parrot
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i still like talos a lot

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like 12 of my fist runs were done with it

hollow hawk
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same

grand shale
hollow hawk
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thats you

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sure

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but still

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chiron has range

outer dew
# runic parrot ah really? that explains it then

For every weapon you can only dash strike twice in a row. Thats why for things like nemesis speedruns(where dash striking is critical) speedrunners go for hermes dashes. So out of most of the options from hermes I normally take dash boons

hollow hawk
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talos doesnt

grand shale
outer dew
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Demeter with ME is op

grand shale
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rail gang

hollow hawk
outer dew
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I love the rail

hollow hawk
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unless you have good hammers

grand shale
#

i used to think the rail was garbage but it gud

hollow hawk
#

also if you like the rail

outer dew
hollow hawk
#

you shouldnt hate the bow

hollow hawk
#

lol

#

but still

#

rail and bow arent that different really

outer dew
#

I have done most everything in this game with eris

grand shale
#

yeah they are

hollow hawk
#

both have an aim attack, and a normal attack

scarlet gull
#

wait for the violent past prophecy what are the conditions?

#

you buy the aspect?

#

you complete a run with it?

#

you max it?

#

which one counts

grand shale
outer dew
#

Like all my achievments are with eris so I have like a connection to it

hollow hawk
#

i mean

#

my first sub 15 was eris too

outer dew
hollow hawk
#

eris also broke my 7 streak last run

#

but thats out of the way for now

#

fo2 final boss hits hard yo

scarlet gull
#

i don't remember what my first sub 15 was

outer dew
#

Almost got a new pb with eris but died to ||hades||

scarlet gull
#

i think it was eris tho

hollow hawk
outer dew
#

I was about to get 10:30 but then his lasers screwed me over

#

I was very overconfident and didnt have the acorn on

hollow hawk
#

are we the same person because i had the exact same experience

#

LMAOO

outer dew
#

I was full agro which might have not been the best idea

hollow hawk
#

youre describing things that i did

#

lmao

outer dew
#

I had the hourglass keepsake to speed up styx

hollow hawk
#

took some other keepsake, was overconfident, was about to get pb, died to lasers, was too aggressive

outer dew
#

But I think I can do it again with rocket bomb and cluster

#

I literally need rocket bomb to have a good eris run

scarlet gull
#

hm

#

i'm conflicted right now

#

do i take extra cast or +51% cast damage

#

talos aphro cast

#

abyssal soul

outer dew
#

Extra cast

#

Is that the one with 3 cast?

scarlet gull
#

yeah

#

3 casts

#

talos aspect

outer dew
#

mabye cast damage then

#

idk

scarlet gull
#

aphrodite cast

outer dew
#

I normally go extra casts but thats for hera bow

scarlet gull
#

idk if i'll be able to get off all 4 casts in the time that they're close enough from magnet

#

or if the more damage would just be better

outer dew
#

yep

#

ur probably right

summer obsidian
#

question, do sword beams from the piercing wave hammer get affected by crit chance bonuses? and if they do, does that include the crits from deadly strike and/or cruel thrust?

outer dew
#

idk

grand shale
outer dew
#

ok

#

Rail hidden aspect is at first underwhelming

#

And fist hidden aspect is really heavy

upper elm
#

Is there any info on if Hades is coming to the other consoles?

grand shale
#

i doubt that they wouldnt add it to other consoles

#

i mean they specifically say its best played with a controller

grand shale
outer dew
#

huh

grand shale
#

yeah ikr

summer obsidian
#

i just realized how busted aspect of nemesis is

outer dew
grand shale
#

anyways back to hidden aspects, I find guan yu hard to use but got a clear first try using arthur

upper elm
#

lol

#

my high school calc teacher was the one to give me this name

summer obsidian
upper elm
#

yea guan yu was pretty tough lvl 1 but once its maxed if you get lucky with the daedulus spin charge talent its pretty good

outer dew
#

Yes arty dash is best on nemesis

summer obsidian
#

though i should’ve probably gone for aphro special for heart rend

outer dew
#

It was insane with pierced butterfly

outer dew
summer obsidian
#

yeah i just happened to get poseidon and thought it would be fun

outer dew
#

SPOILEERR THST

#

THAT

#

Escaped on my second attempt with ||guan yu||

scarlet gull
#

ooh

#

weird interaction

#

with the teleport benefit and talos magnetic cutter

upper elm
#

lucifer with zeus bolts or dionysus hangover is actually insane

scarlet gull
#

||lucifer|| with dire misfortune

#

also i'm pretty sure that you have to spoiler the hidden aspects @upper elm

grand shale
#

im gonna pretend i didnt just hear a possible hidden aspect name

#

but seriously how do you go about using ||guan yu?||

outer dew
#

Special spam

grand shale
#

so like sword

outer dew
#

And use pierced butterfly. It forces you not to take damage

grand shale
#

man i hate that keepsake

outer dew
#

Also you need the charged skewer hammer to make this work

outer dew
grand shale
#

i only ever use lucky tooth, acorn, and like, chaos egg or another god keepsake

outer dew
#

I had a lot of fun using that build

rugged sierra
#

Lucky Tooth is my fave, but I'll use a different keepsake if I'm tryin to do something specific. Like complete a quest or whatnot.

upper elm
#

hermes is actually really good for gy too

tulip stone
#

i use the feather duster for asphodel/elysium

outer dew
#

I got like +30 percent damage with butterfly

outer dew
nocturne rampart
#

Hello, someone try to scamed me using this Discord (he joined, add friend and then do is scam). Is name is JohnnyPO30 (he is no longer in the Discord).

tulip stone
#

it is but the ability to heal is too good for me to pass up

upper elm
outer dew
#

Ive never used it

#

But the percentage is like really bad

tulip stone
#

ye

#

i don't like how it jumps only 1% if you max it out

upper elm
#

Yea that’s true but there are pots in every chamber so it helps out a bit

outer dew
#

Go acorn if you have trouble at bosses

outer dew
upper elm
#

My favorite build I have ran so far is the magnetic fist with the Poseidon special boon. It’s hilarious seeing enemies getting pulled toward you and then bopped away

tulip stone
#

razor shoals my beloved

fleet narwhal
#

i enjoy the headphone integration with hades but ill swear my headphones sound broken because orphy’s song will only play on one ear :^)

tulip stone
#

the audio always gets out of sync whenever i play with headphones

grand shale
#

wait

#

people actually think poseidon dash is better than athena dash

#

why??????

signal aspen
#

in some situations

#

but most of the time you should just use athena dash

outer dew
#

Eris + tidal dash

#

I love it

grand shale
#

hmm

#

ill give it a try

outer dew
#

At high heat probably not but for lower heat it is really good

grand shale
#

yeah the highest heat ive ever cleared is 5 so i guess

scarlet gull
#

i swear this dumn talos build is going to kill me

#

rip my streak

#

just give me blown kiss already man

signal aspen
#

what is the build

scarlet gull
#

talos with aphrodite cast

signal aspen
#

i heard that that is pretty good

scarlet gull
#

em 3 shredded me

signal aspen
#

yeah

#

fists are not that good against the heroes

grand shale
#

demeter cast gang

scarlet gull
#

aaand i don't even get artemis in styx

signal aspen
#

aphro cast isnt that bad

scarlet gull
#

rip exit wounds

grand shale
#

rip

scarlet gull
#

no artemis or aphro in styx

#

1 athena, 1 poseidon and 1 demeter

outer dew
#

aphro cast on herashadesmile

scarlet gull
#

aphro cast on hera is nasty

signal aspen
#

yeah

grand shale
#

but have you tried

#

demeter cast with zeus shield

scarlet gull
#

common hermes reload

#

5 seconds is long man

signal aspen
#

or you can just use demeter cast and get lucky

grand shale
#

lol

signal aspen
#

stygian soul + a bunch chaos boons

#

that pairs well with demeter cast

grand shale
#

hmm

#

yeah i do that

signal aspen
#

there will just be a bunch of crystals everywhere

scarlet gull
#

and somehow i missed my meg on the snakestone

grand shale
#

though i only ever run into chaos like 3x a run at most

signal aspen
#

i think you should get a couple per floor

#

but not in styx

scarlet gull
#

my damage is so bad with this

#

that was a dumb question

signal aspen
#

i didnt even get the time to read it

scarlet gull
#

alright ||hades|| fight with 200 hp and no DDs

#

lets gooo

#

talos best aspect

outer dew
#

thats roug

#

rough

scarlet gull
#

aaand acorn is already gone

signal aspen
#

f

#

rip streak

outer dew
#

uh oh

scarlet gull
#

okay phase 2 50 hp

outer dew
#

no way

scarlet gull
#

rip

#

i got him down to half hp

grand shale
#

bruuu

scarlet gull
#

but i was at 4 health

#

lmaoooo

#

i got killed by the skull wave

grand shale
#

i had a hades fight go just like that and i got through but what weapon you got

scarlet gull
#

since he was laser

#

talos

grand shale
#

damn

scarlet gull
#

aphro cast

grand shale
#

what cast

scarlet gull
#

no blown kiss

grand shale
#

oof

#

rip in piss

scarlet gull
#

rip

#

can't post images here

grand shale
#

i mean you cant post it in victory boasting for obvious reasons buut..

#

yeah idk

scarlet gull
#

o

#

i'll just post it in there then delete it lol

grand shale
#

k

steep tusk
#

Ok hear me out…Thanatos is a tsundere

grand shale
#

maybe

red tiger
#

Yeah, we know

fleet narwhal
#

thanatos is absolutely a tsundere and no one can deny it

plucky phoenix
#

tsunatos

steep tusk
swift mist
#

what boons do you guys main? curious
not boons, keepsakes

#

boons has been in my head

hollow hawk
#

oh keepsakes

#

it usually goes god keepsake in tart into god keepsake in asphodel, and then acorn and acorn in elysium and styx

#

or if youre decent at the game and can easily beat elysium and styx bosses, you can take charon's keepsake in last two regions

swift mist
#

yeah i just mained the +50 max hp one, i just unlocked the last one and im going through them to get them all to 3 stars

#

doesnt really take long to max one

steep tusk
#

I mean keepsake

spice hearth
#

i like taking butterfly or plume for meme runs

#

and trying to get it as high as possible

outer dew
#

Yep god keepsake in tart, god keespake in asphodel, purse/hourglass in elysium and acorn normally in styx

#

Unless Im going hermes keepsake or than keepsake

unborn remnant
#

I wonder how crazy the movement/optimization will get in this game in a few years

swift mist
#

the doggo keepsake was the first one i got and i never switched it all the way through until credits

thin lynx
#

My usual run goes ||pom flower|| for tartarus and asphodel, then a god's keepsake (for a god that I didn't get yet, to improve the Family Favorite mirror talent. If I already met around 4 gods before asphodel, I might change the keepsake at this time).
For the final keepsake, the teeth if not feeling very confident or just to be sure. Otherwise, I'll use Charon's or even another god's

brisk trail
#

Any news on other after release content?

grand crystal
#

i generally just go for a god keepsake for the first 2 areas, then i either get another god trinket or ||pom flower|| for 3rd, and then whether or not i switch to tooth or keep ||pom|| is how many dds i have

hearty bramble
#

usually I liked to use the butterfly or plume, but now that I'm trying a ||32 heat run|| ive been starting out with shackle and then switching to skelly/purse/collar/||pom|| as needed

grand crystal
#

i only ever use plume if im doing an evade build

#

the highest ibe gotten overall for evade is like 64

hearty bramble
#

i like to go speedy quick :-) im not good at doing specific builds though lol

#

when I first saw the cosmetic upgrades for the house i was like pfff what a waste of gems. now i must have all of them

winter harbor
#

I’m getting pretty close to maxing all house upgrades

#

I think I’m just missing the throne and ||UI themes|| now

delicate tide
#

if i jump to clear at ||heat 8 (for this new skelly trinket thing)||, can i still get ||bounties|| from 1-7?

acoustic plank
#

I typically run a boon related keepsake for the first one or two areas depending on how lucky I am with my build. Then I'll throw on the Purse or the ||Pom Flower|| depending on my money situation, and for the fourth one I almost always use the Hourglass for maximum effectiveness for the wells.

acoustic plank
lusty cedar
#

Hi guys I just play a bit more of hades today. So far in the game I didn't have any crash yet.

delicate tide
copper canopy
#

I know they don’t allow gifs being posted, so please click on this, because this dumb joke popped into my head.

tepid plover
#

Hate those

#

Especially the big mini boss one

swift mist
#

i have every standard keepsake but i don't have the achievement

slim ravine
#

do you guys pronounce daedalus as day-dal-us or de-dal-us?

copper canopy
copper canopy
tepid plover
#

Dedalus

pallid canyon
#

what's up with the hippogryph's special changing the aim? is my controller messed up?

swift mist
#

ive read it as day-dalus but i already knew how to say it

copper canopy
#

Dyntos Hammer

celest saddle
#

are there any programs to extract the files and make them viewable? i wanna see what all the 3d models look like

tepid plover
#

Zagreus is 2d shadeembarassed

austere jacinth
#

He's actually a 3d model made to look 2d

celest saddle
#

yeah thats pretty much every charectar im pretty sure

young epoch
#

Does zag have an australian accent? I cant tell since english is not my first language

tepid plover
#

no

#

zag is 2d

#

thats why skins arent and probably wont be a thing

young epoch
#

Also dunno if it's the "mate" that make him sound like an australian or he actually is talking with that accent

tepid plover
#

Hades is a 2D game with no real-time 3D rendering. That means every single frame of Zagreus animation exists as a unique image.

#

greg said that in a steam forum

hearty bramble
young epoch
#

Got it, thanks

tepid plover
#

is crazy

#

knowing every single one is single image

hearty bramble
#

wait no in one of the noclip videos you can see an animator working on a 3d animation of zag

tepid plover
#

those are are for after

hearty bramble
#

so they are done in 3d and then implemented in 2d?

tepid plover
#

i believe

#

like she literally took them after the game and recreated them pretty much

copper canopy
#

Seems like a lot of extra effort

#

I feel like they could just put the 3D model in the game and render it in real time instead

tepid plover
#

gimme a sec

#

this is greg iirc

swift mist
#

i'm playing with ||extreme measures|| for the first time, and i didn't notice any difference in any fights except for the first one, that had ||all 3 sisters||. i just killed ||theseus and the minotaur|| and didnt notice anything there or with the ||bone hyrda||

hearty bramble
swift mist
#

ohhhh

copper canopy
tepid plover
#

||em1 only affects meg, em2 affects meg and lernie||

swift mist
#

i thought it affected all of them but each tier just affected them more

tepid plover
#

so on

#

this is when asked about zag skins

hearty bramble
#

that's... a lot of frames of animation shadeembarassed

tepid plover
hearty bramble
#

thanks for sharing!! super interesting

tepid plover
#

thank greg for the info

copper canopy
#

Okay so no zag skins buuuuuut

tepid plover
#

for now at least

hearty bramble
#

and Darren said something like there's 22,000 lines of dialogue

copper canopy
#

Does this also mean no additional weapon aspects?

copper canopy
tepid plover
#

well they havent said anything about the future of the game

#

@celest saddle since you were the one who asked

celest saddle
#

oh neat

#

this game was hand painted? respect

tepid plover
#

some characters are 3d yes

#

idk where you would find that

autumn heath
#

hades is great - it should be way more popular

brisk trail
#

how

tepid plover
#

|| on each side

hearty bramble
tepid plover
#

||

#

both of them

brisk trail
#

oh

#

||does anyone have suggestions for defeating hades I have done it 3 times||

tepid plover
#

there

brisk trail
#

thx

tepid plover
#

learn the patterns

cloud tusk
#

Does the Storyteller have a big Vincent Price vibe to anyone else? Almost feels like he may have been an inspiration.

tepid plover
#

attacks have an animation, letting you know whats about to happen

tepid plover
brisk trail
#

i should have thought about that myself shadedisgruntled

celest saddle
#

||whenever he tries to do spin move, try dashing when he attacks, not dashing out of the way||

brisk trail
#

big dumb, i am

cloud tusk
tepid plover
#

the storyteller

brisk trail
#

||i usually use shield||

cloud tusk
#

I just meant the voice style. Not persona.

#

Oh what. Can I get some direction on those? 👀

tepid plover
#

what

cloud tusk
#

Meaning whatever those hints are?

brisk trail
#

||should i use sound or is none fine||

cloud tusk
#

@brisk trail - as the above said, it really comes down to familiarizing yourself with their moves. Same as the others.

tepid plover
#

well know is an old man

cloud tusk
#

If you want a breakdown of all of them, the easiest route would be looking it up, ultimately.

tepid plover
#

or at least thats what zag calls him

#

in the wiki

#

there are a list of attacks

#

some people say homer

#

some have said cronus

hearty ridge
#

hey I got a question

brisk trail
#

well thanks I will do some research and come back

hearty ridge
#

what does ‘dark thirst’ mean

#

Like your weapons ‘dark thirst’

tepid plover
#

is buff

cloud tusk
#

It's when your weapons glow.

tepid plover
#

well

#

more like a mechanic

cloud tusk
#

Gives you +20% darkness.

hearty ridge
#

Thx

tepid plover
#

each time in the house, a random weapon will give you more darkness and gems when upgraded

#

is to encourage using different weapons

fleet narwhal
#

dark thirst is random as well

tepid plover
#

yep

#

a random weapon

fleet narwhal
#

oh looks like the patch isnt out for switch yet

#

man 😔

swift mist
#

do you guys prefer chthonic vitality or dark regeneration

fleet narwhal
#

dark regeneration

brisk trail
#

Is there any plan for coop for this game

#

I really wanna play this with a friend

tepid plover
#

the one where you heal 3 per room

#

dont know the name

fleet narwhal
#

no plans indicating so, no

brisk trail
#

What is everyones favorite weapon ||and aspect||

swift mist
fleet narwhal
#

how would hades coop even work

tepid plover
#

it wouldnt

#

they said no coop

brisk trail
#

2 people instead of one

swift mist
#

they would need to make changes to difficulty

brisk trail
#

Instead of 1 player you have 2 players

fleet narwhal
#

chthonic vitality is the one that heals 3 hp per room

tepid plover
#

thats the one i like

brisk trail
#

coop would be killing your friends

#

Double the enemies, share the progress of your host

#

Pretty straightforward

swift mist
#

oh yeah it only goes up to 3, didnt know

brisk trail
#

i also use cthonic

swift mist
#

trash then

tepid plover
#

they have said they made hades with a single player mentality, and they arent changing that

fleet narwhal
#

||double the hades for double the pain||

brisk trail
#

oh yeah

swift mist
#

dark regen is good because bosses give you a bunch of darkness which lets you heal a bunch

tepid plover
#

but after styx is useless

fleet narwhal
#

chthonic vitality is nice for styx.. provided you can get that far

tepid plover
#

lol

swift mist
#

aint that a spoiler

tepid plover
#

chthonic vitality is nice for the whole game

fleet narwhal
#

only stuff past styx is a spoiler

tepid plover
#

it works every room

#

not only on styx lol

swift mist
#

its only 3 hearts though

tepid plover
#

per room

#

tf?

#

i mentioned styx because is the place where you dont get darkness anymore

swift mist
#

3 hearts per room is like what, 15hp per whole place

tepid plover
#

constant hp

swift mist
#

yeah you cant switch darkness mid run so before styx its useless

tepid plover
#

not having to rely on finding darkness

fleet narwhal
#

plus darker darkness gives a nice max health boost too

tepid plover
#

i used to run the mirror thing where gold laurels are more common, so it makes it even less effective

#

youre talking about finding darkness when you need healing, what if when you find the darkness you dont need the healing

#

idk i feel is way too situational

#

i rather the constant hp

swift mist
#

does getting 3hp for the next room literally even save you from 1 hit though

#

like i feel like 3 extra hp for the next room is pretty useless

tepid plover
#

Isnt supposed to be a saving talent

#

Thats what dd is

#

Is a sustain talent

#

Theres no better one

#

Is literally opinion based

#

I just feel relying on finding darkness makes it bad already, and on top of that, you might find the darkness when you don't even need it

#

Thats a no for me

brisk trail
#

true

tepid plover
#

It doesnt mean is bad

#

I personally don't like it

#

For the given reasons

swift mist
#

imo it's better than being healed for 3hp each encounter. like to me personally that's next to nothing, 1 hit will get you for more than that. unless you're a god at dodging in styx and can rack up the hp then i feel like its useless

tepid plover
#

Thats understandable

#

They did a good job at balancing stuff, make it so everyone can pick their own stuff without the "this is obviously better"

#

Like the undamaged talent, I thought that had way less potential than backstab, until you're speedrunning, then it kinda sounds amazing

swift mist
#

yeah

digital python
#

now i got new headphones i can proceed to spend half an hour at eurydice's just listening to her. again

brisk trail
#

||In styx it is basically take a hit per room and get free stuff for no damage||

tepid plover
#

Not really

#

A hit is more than 3

#

But is still counts

brisk trail
#

For me at least bc I suck and play on god mode

hearty bramble
tepid plover
#

Cause is constant

copper canopy
copper canopy
tepid plover
#

even then

#

theres literally a fountain right after a boss

digital python
#

just lost two death defiances on the butterfly miniboss... this is why i never use the bow T-T

copper canopy
#

More healing is always good. Also, I said the best use. I prefer +3 health each room as well.

tepid plover
#

nah that encounter is rough

#

I see

copper canopy
#

Master repeatedly dash-shooting

#

I almost never shoot normally with the bow.

digital python
copper canopy
#

It’s dabes.

#

But yes I too disliked it initially

#

Master spamming dash-shot

#

Or try and shoot for getting the flurry shot upgrade from the hammer if you can’t.

digital python
#

godammit i died before even getting to thesus & asterius uugGGH there goes my streak

copper canopy
digital python
#

the bow is a weapon for ppl w/ actual dexterity unlike me whose ideal build is spam special to win lmao

brisk trail
#

yeah special spamzagluv

digital python
#

best runs have been where i just buffed my special to insane degrees

brisk trail
#

mine too

copper canopy
#

Have you tried Chiron aspect?

brisk trail
#

with like talos aspect

digital python
#

i dont know what the chiron aspect is lol

copper canopy
#

It needs to be upgraded before it’s any good

digital python
#

i dont know the names of literally nanything

#

i was using the aspect of hera i think?

copper canopy
digital python
#

the one where it loads a cast onto my attack

copper canopy
digital python
#

yea ihaven't tried chiron cuz i dont see how that's a buff?

#

seems medirce but also haven;t tried it

copper canopy
copper canopy
#

But you need to upgrade it first.

digital python
#

i.e. spam special to win lmao

copper canopy
#

Best bow aspect is the hidden one imo, but you’d probably dislike it because shots take even longer to charge with it.

digital python
#

bruh i finaly unlocked the hidden aspect of the spear but the drawbacks r like way too terrible for it to be usable for me shadedisgruntled

loud lintel
#

You know its gonna be a good run when you get hunting blades as early as Tartarus shadeohboy

copper canopy
#

But in practice it’s unwieldy

digital python
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the attacks look VERY cool but i can't use a weapon that ||gives me only 30 health to work with||

copper canopy
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It needs a rework or buff.

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The health is fine, upgraded it’s ||50||

loud lintel
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Is it just me or does hidden spear special sound like leather

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Like, rubbing leather

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Or something

digital python
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lmao

copper canopy
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(The fizzling kind)

noble hinge
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I guess it’s more fun to play than anything else

loud lintel
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Hidden spear is the only hidden aspect i havent reached the surface with

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I heard special is the way to go though

noble hinge
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Special and speen when you can get away with it

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I found aphro special and Athena attack works best for me

swift mist
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just got an 18min pog

digital python
loud lintel
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I mean

noble hinge
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True

loud lintel
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You can just invest the blood

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Then give up the run if you dont like it

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You'll get the blood back

digital python
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really?

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damn ok

loud lintel
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Yeah just dont go back to your bedroom after investing the blood

runic parrot
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when you click give up in the esc menu, it sends you back to your last autosave in the house of hades

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which doesnt include any interactions you've had with the keepsake drawer or the weapons

swift mist
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||imagine constantly fighting to the death with your dad and then casually talking like it never happened||

runic parrot
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happens to me all the time

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it's our little secret

digital python
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LMAO ||first time i beat hades and he just. didnt acknowledge it i was like did his memories get magically wiped or...||

swift mist
runic parrot
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just spoiler that lol

digital python
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if it's a spoiler spoiler it lmao

runic parrot
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im pretty sure they know how to since they did it a message before

swift mist
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i thought i spoilered the whole thing sorry

noble hinge
swift mist
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just got to 17 minutes with 5 heat

fast plume
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is there a channel for suggestions?

outer dew
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Like game suggestion?

fast plume
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ya

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just a suggested change but i dont wanna be a jerk about it

outer dew
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Idk tech support mabye

tepid plover
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We used to back in early access

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I believe not anymore

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Drop it here I guess

fast plume
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wouldn't hurt to have the money jars autobreak on encounter clear. having to scan each room after clearing doesnt really add much fun to my runs.

tepid plover
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While I see your point

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I think finding them and breaking them adds like a little mini game challenge

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Maybe add it as an option

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Part of God mode even?

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But to be fair, you dont HAVE TO

fast plume
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could be opt in, i prefer my time be spent playing

tepid plover
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Is just a bonus, so I dont see why it would be automatic

somber star
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When should I start doing runs where I save money for styx shop

tepid plover
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Sort of it "want more? Then earn it"

somber star
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Ok

tepid plover
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Learn to manage the obols

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Like what to expect

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And when to spend

runic parrot
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tell that to my 14 obols by the temple because i spent it all on 3 kisses of styx

tepid plover
runic parrot
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i usually end up with around 800 by the time i get the sack

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never enough for the treasure