#h1-discussion

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real gate
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I really like ares as well

hollow hawk
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same tbh

unborn remnant
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nah nah nah not one of those

shrewd helm
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The sound his boon makes sticks in my head the most

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Sounds like a bottle popping and laughter

hollow hawk
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yess

desert meadow
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Now you have that sound playing in my head

shrewd helm
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He is chill

unborn remnant
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its a different series that just looks at how busted smash games are with only text and gameplay

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I always remember the ares sound

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just some dude screaming

eager flame
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ah yknow, maybe an excuse for apollo not being in the game is that the sun doesn't shine in the underworld or something

craggy barn
desert meadow
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Nah, Artemis just won't let him help

hollow hawk
fleet narwhal
hollow hawk
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or neither do people have feasts there really

craggy barn
hollow hawk
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its probably just they had to pick a certain number of gods, and they picked the ones that made the most sense

hollow hawk
unborn remnant
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Here wait

desert meadow
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Plus Apollo would be another yellow/tan colored one, it'd clash with Athena

craggy barn
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how the hell did they think of "damage over time" and decide to associate the god of wine and feast with it

unborn remnant
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poison?

real gate
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Food poisoning

shrewd helm
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I looked up which people give ||companions|| but what kind of perks does everyone else offer when u do their ||favors||

unborn remnant
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Hangovers make you sick?

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It checks out

eager flame
desert meadow
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Isn't alcohol basically poison anyway?

fleet narwhal
hollow hawk
shrewd helm
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Cool so I'll prioritize the ones for ||companions|| first.

hollow hawk
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yeah you should

real gate
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I'm almost maxed out with everyone but than is being a pain

shrewd helm
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Man god mode on and I still died

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Charron

hollow hawk
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god mode doesnt really do anything, its just like 20% dmg reduction, that increases by +2% each time you die

unborn remnant
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I think

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Idk I have no experience

eager flame
unborn remnant
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I think raw alcohol is very bad for the body though

desert meadow
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Idk, seems close enough to link the two together

unborn remnant
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Dont quote me on that

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yeah

real gate
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I just never see than in runs

lyric wharf
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I'm around 188 runs and I got Thanatos favor today.

desert meadow
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Wait, losing to him helps the chances of seeing him back at the house?

eager flame
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NO

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I was mislead to believe that

shrewd helm
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I kinda wish the bull would visit the house of hades and had his own sequence towards favor. I like him

eager flame
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but it isn't true

desert meadow
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oh

unborn remnant
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no one:
Thanatos: loud ass gong sound

eager flame
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NOOO

craggy barn
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guh dong

desert meadow
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Than has issues, he likes gongs too much

eager flame
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i said every time i hear that gong i lose my sh*t

hollow hawk
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Than is in his emo phase

shrewd helm
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I got a fever and the only cure is more gong

ivory geode
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yo, does hyper sprint affect rush delivery?

hollow hawk
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except that its never over for him

hollow hawk
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its the best way to increase your damage in the game

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hyper sprint + rush delivery

desert meadow
ivory geode
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DAAANG
i dont even have both rn (just hyper sprint) i just wondered

craggy barn
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than is also the god of "it's not a phase mom"

hollow hawk
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i literally go for rush delivery each time i have hyper sprint

hollow hawk
desert meadow
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Ah

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No wonder I like the guy

real gate
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I hope I can finish than soon

shrewd helm
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I've only cleared a couple times but arnt they suppose to be out of the loop to avoid knowledge of ||persephone||

ivory geode
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"SHOW ME A PERMANENT STATE OF THE SELF, MOM"

eager flame
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hypnos is the type of guy who uses humor and sarcasm to cope with the fact that he's been disliked by his family since the beginning of time

lyric wharf
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Hypnos is just that person you know that is always happy no matter what.

ivory geode
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"no one sees me as anything more than a joke so i might as well be a good joke :)"

lyric wharf
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I love waking up Hypnos lol.

eager flame
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YEAH

eager flame
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he deserves better idc

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i want good things for hypnos and honestly who doesn't

ivory geode
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ITS FUNNY CUZ BEFORE IVE USED THAT EXACT SENTENCE TO DESCRIBE HOW I INTERPRET TOP MAN

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FROM MEGA MAN 3

desert meadow
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Funny thing is, I can see Hades treating Hypnos better then he does his own son

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There's gotta be some reason he's on guard duty but is allowed to sleep away most of that time

eager flame
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well he's a chthonic diety so technically he has a bit more presence in the underworld than hades

lyric wharf
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"They'll never catch me sleeping on the job ever again"

That's one of my favorite line from Hypnos lol.

hollow hawk
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if hades cant see till the ||second entrance to the lounge|| maybe he cant see hypnos sleeping

eager flame
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autocorrect tried to make chthonic into "catholic" lmao

shrewd helm
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Biased phone

lyric wharf
hollow hawk
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but then why cant he see ||2nd entrance||

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hmm

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well i guess the angles are a bit different

desert meadow
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He chooses not to notice any work orders Zag puts in, he's afraid to admit they're improvements.

lyric wharf
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Hades does say something when you do that contract.

hollow hawk
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^

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and zag also says something

desert meadow
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True

lyric wharf
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Hades probably knows everything that happens in the house.

desert meadow
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Even Skelly?

austere jacinth
# eager flame thats hypnos, thats his entire character

That's an oversimplification. That's the face he wears--the facade--but he's a lot more than that. He doesn't really know where he fits, or if the place he's been put is for him, he's got a lot less poise than his mother or brothers (at least compared to the ones we see), and he struggles to live up to his potential. He's sweet.

eager flame
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ah yeah! totally

austere jacinth
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And no way does Hades know anything about what Nyx doesn't want him to know!

eager flame
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i was exaggerating

austere jacinth
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Or Charon!

eager flame
desert meadow
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Technically, yeah

austere jacinth
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The courtyard is part of the House xDD

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But, yeah, I'd be very surprised if Hades knew all of Nyx's secrets, or all of Charon's.

desert meadow
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He has his secrets, they have theirs

austere jacinth
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I'm not sure what secrets he'd have that Nyx wouldn't know.

desert meadow
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Fair point

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She seems to see mostly everything

rich acorn
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Lol I didn't know you could talk to bouldy

shrewd helm
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The boulder?

eager flame
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HAHAHA me either but i will try next time

shrewd helm
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You can talk to it? Lol

austere jacinth
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He's a total bro.

shrewd helm
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Damn this whole time..

austere jacinth
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Mama Nyx sees all... and if she doesn't, I guess she could just ask her daughters xDD

lyric wharf
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Just keep playing the game and you'll eventually find out more about characters, even at 188 runs I still have new dialogues where I learn more about the characters of the game.

desert meadow
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Always talk to Bouldy

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He offers the best advice

eager flame
desert meadow
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The game looks so good

lyric wharf
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The amount of details in this game is just so amazing.

desert meadow
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I love the effects every boon adds to your weapons

austere jacinth
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It's just... so well made, so well designed, so well put together, and so fun!

eager flame
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exactly !

austere jacinth
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I know I'm gonna be using these characters as benchmarks for judging other games from now on xDD

eager flame
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they didn't have to go this hard with every aspect of the game but i'm so glad they did because the result is beautiful

desert meadow
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^^^^^^^

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For a game about the underworld, it's so darn colorful, I love it

austere jacinth
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Yeah, I can't think of anything I really dislike. The only improvement I could ever suggest would be 'more?' xDD

desert meadow
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Same

eager flame
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the only improvements would be a hypnos storyline and apollo/hephaestus references

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otherwise can't really complain about anything

desert meadow
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Hera too, I need to see if Hades is scared of her

eager flame
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AH YEAH HERA she's at least mentioned in the weapons

desert meadow
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Yeah

stark onyx
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I REALLY WANT HERA SHE'S AWFUL...

austere jacinth
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Apollo and Heph get one ref each, I think. I'd love to see the codex entry for Apollo. Achilles's rant would be great.

eager flame
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exactly!

stark onyx
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i think hephaestus and daedalus getting to hang out would be amazing

desert meadow
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I love how her bow is just covered in skulls, it's perfect

austere jacinth
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Apollo's codex entry: -Codex just starts screaming expletives-

unborn remnant
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I really think he'd be the next god that gets added

stark onyx
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Apollo codex entry be like [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [C

desert meadow
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Yes

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Just yes

ivory geode
austere jacinth
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He'd be fantastic to see. He's a god of so many things and it'd give Artie someone to bounce off of. And yeah... poor Achilles.

eager flame
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its dash strike artemis

ivory geode
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ah
the particle effect looks similar so i was Confused

desert meadow
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I would love to see Artemis apologizing to Zag about how stupid her brother is

eager flame
ivory geode
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what beef would he have with apollo i dont remember

austere jacinth
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Apollo basically killed Achilles... and Pat

ivory geode
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AH

eager flame
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apollo basically kickstarted the war

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in the iliad

desert meadow
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Of course he did

austere jacinth
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Eris kickstarted the war

ivory geode
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yeah i thought it was something like that

austere jacinth
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Apollo didn't start it.

eager flame
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yeah but apollo played a part in it

ivory geode
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wasnt it caused by like 4 different people at once

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one thing led to another and oops !

austere jacinth
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Eris, then Aphro really.

desert meadow
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If it's not Zeus' fault, Apollo is a likely second guess

urban path
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yo I just noticed asterius has human feet

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wtf

ivory geode
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'i think i will cause problems on purpose' -eris, all the time

pearl saddle
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Gateways, Erebus or Vanquisher's Keep

desert meadow
austere jacinth
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Eris dropped an apple at a party, having marked it for 'the most beautiful'. The gods started bickering and basically picked this Paris kid to decide for them. Aphrodite promises Paris the most beautiful woman in the world should Paris pick her. He does. Aphro is like '... So this is Helen'.

eager flame
# austere jacinth Eris, then Aphro really.

aphrodite caused paris and helen to get involved but apollo was already causing a plague because the king offended a priest of apollo, but i can't remember that well because i haven't read the iliad in a while

unborn remnant
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WOAH THERE

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THATS A DEEP ASS CUT

pearl saddle
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Which one should I choose

unborn remnant
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what a sick plot point that would be

copper canopy
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Mythology is weird yo

eager flame
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"Apollo plays a key role in some of the most important scenes in The Iliad. In Book 1, he brings a plague on the Acheaens for disrespecting his priest, Chryses, by kidnapping his daughter. This plague launches the conflict between Agamemnon and Achilles. In Books 15-16, he helps Hector kill Achilles' friend Patroclus."

pearl saddle
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Gateways, Erebus or Vanquisher's Keep

austere jacinth
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Basically, the gods get involved in all the things and usually it gets... -gestures to the Trojan war- messy.

desert meadow
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^

urban path
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is it ever indicated what war is supposed to be happening on the surface

eager flame
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very messy

pearl saddle
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help

ivory geode
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i don't think so

desert meadow
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Not that I remember

austere jacinth
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Time is nebulous in Hades.

pearl saddle
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How good is Erebus?

urban path
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ares says "very few armies are involved"

copper canopy
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Although I like how they incorporated that weird detail about some beliefs that Zagreus and Dionysus are the same into the game.

ivory geode
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depends on how good you are

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if ur good at not getting hit go erebus

pearl saddle
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Oh its a no hit thing?

urban path
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yeah you can't take damage

pearl saddle
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Yeah Im not getting that then

urban path
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or else you don't get the reward

eager flame
copper canopy
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@pearl saddle it’s worth it in Tartarus

urban path
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tbh they're not that hard as long as you use the pillars

pearl saddle
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Vanquisher's Keep is much better then

copper canopy
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Maaaaybe in Asphodel

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Don’t do it in Elysium

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Also Erebus has a different requirement for each zone

urban path
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oh gotcha I've only done them in tartarus

ivory geode
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oh
ive never had high enough [REDACTED] to do it beyond tartarus yea

urban path
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they're not that hard there

copper canopy
eager flame
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i don't know what i did but i got erebus for the first time in asphodel and it caught me completely off guard

copper canopy
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If you merely want Erebus’ journal entry, ||there’s another way to get to Erebus without the gates||

eager flame
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ah ||i got there bc I shoplifted charon||

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i forgot there was another way to get there

austere jacinth
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That's a paddlin'.

eager flame
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i really thought i was getting 500 for free shadegrief

copper canopy
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I actually never ||shoplifted|| until I read about what happens, so mildly disappointed I was too timid to do it myself and experience the surprise firsthand.

eager flame
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i just grabbed it bc it was there

copper canopy
eager flame
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JSBAJSNSKKD

austere jacinth
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I didn't grab it for a long time. I thought it was rude. But then- xDD

copper canopy
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I’m too used to Spelunky punishing that behavior badly.

austere jacinth
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||I would loved to have eavesdropped on Hermes and Charon at the epilogue party. Love their relationship.||

real gate
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I always snatched the bag

eager flame
# eager flame i just grabbed it bc it was there

||when zagreus started apologizing by saying he didn't mean any actual harm and he was just used to taking everything from his father's realm, he technically wasn't lying in my escape HAHAH||

austere jacinth
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||Murderous shopkeepers are a staple of Roguelikes||

eager flame
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what hypnos said about it was SO funny

eager flame
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everyone else's reactions were also hilarious

austere jacinth
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It's in spoiler text!

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I'm sorry though T.T

copper canopy
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Yeah but we were talking about something else

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It’s fine

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I guess shadeeyeroll

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Feeling a lot of emotions ignore me

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You did nothing wrong

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I’m weird like that

austere jacinth
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I still feel bad.

eager flame
copper canopy
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Well stop it wasn’t that bad(maybe)

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I’m off, I have things to do anyways

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Don’t wanna make things worse

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Kbai

austere jacinth
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Aww.

copper canopy
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I’ve literally experienced 95% of the game at this point and thought I was safe, I only haven’t completed that last prophecy

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Okay now I’m off

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Bye

somber star
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Bye

eager flame
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byee

topaz yew
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So

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I dinally decided to use my controller for Twin fist

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And

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I have ascended god himself

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THE RAIL GUN HAS A SHOTGUN

trail plover
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What does ||boiling blood|| do?

topaz yew
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||If you lodge your cast into an enemy and they stick you get bonus damage in that enemy per stack of cast||

prisma wind
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It doesn't stack

craggy barn
# trail plover What does ||boiling blood|| do?

when you use a cast that lodges a bloodstone into an enemy, whoever that cast hits will then have a bloodstone lodged into them and while it's lodged the enemy will take more damage and it doesn't stack

prisma wind
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You either get the buff or you don't

trail plover
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Sorry, I mean the debuff from ||Hades|| and not the buff from the mirror

craggy barn
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it also doesn't work with stuff like slicing shot or trippy shot

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it makes you take 2x damage

prisma wind
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It doubles damage taken in that case

trail plover
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I think it has a similar name. ^^"

craggy barn
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basically the same effect lol

trail plover
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Ah, thank you spammy.

craggy barn
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also the final boss and anything you unlock when you get there/get past is a spoiler here

trail plover
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I thought using the spoiler blocks would be okay.

prisma wind
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It's fine to use spoiler tags, yes

trail plover
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Cool. :)

somber star
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So with parting shot

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Does my cast get a straight 50% damage boost due to shadow presence

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Or do I need to have the cast attack them from behind

karmic trellis
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i'm in asphodel, why does discord say i'm preparing to battle out of tartarus

short stirrup
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Aspect of ||Hera|| is really fun holy crap

karmic trellis
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okay

short stirrup
somber star
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Probably

karmic trellis
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okay

topaz yew
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when you have 25+ Boons that all do passive damage while your ||father hades tries to lecture you about winning and losing||

short stirrup
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yep

topaz yew
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JUST how mny voice lines are in this game

narrow hemlock
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about 21k

somber star
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Enough that you never hear the same one twice

slim stone
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Yup

manic bobcat
unborn remnant
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21 THOUSAND???

narrow hemlock
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over a third of it just being zag lines, yeah :D

unborn remnant
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they didnt need to do this but they did

craggy barn
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where'd you even get that

narrow hemlock
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its posted on supergiants own twitter

manic bobcat
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21k / 20 means you get 1000 voice lines for each dollar you spent if the game is just voice lines.

topaz yew
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true

craggy barn
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i want them to make a graph of all the voicelines

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or if that's even possible considering there's over 300k+ words of voiced dialogue

topaz yew
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||You can romance Thanatos and Meg??||

manic bobcat
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Sure can

narrow hemlock
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if you'd like, ||yes. or neither. you're not punished either way||

topaz yew
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||can i yes both?||

manic bobcat
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Yes

topaz yew
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:)

manic bobcat
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;)

topaz yew
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';)

prisma wind
topaz yew
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Zag death by ||orgy||

eager flame
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i- dhwbsn

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i am once again thinking about an apollo dlc

karmic trellis
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sorry to interrupt your convo but is there a way to screenshot in Hades without bringing up the bug report.

narrow hemlock
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f12 is default screenshot key

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unless you changed it

karmic trellis
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hmm k. thanks!

ornate bear
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they keyboard's regular screenshot key should work as well

eager flame
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tbh i screenshot with the snipping tool because its easier to download

narrow hemlock
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steam > settings > ingame, check your screenshot key

karmic trellis
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got it. thanks y'all

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best discord award

prisma wind
austere jacinth
eager flame
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does that make special dialogue appear or is it the same as a normal confession

opaque narwhal
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Yes dude I got Hades for very first time!!!

manic bobcat
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It's OK

eager flame
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uhhh best shield in you guys's opinion?

opaque narwhal
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Chaos

copper canopy
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Can fated authority spawn special npc encounters?

winter harbor
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no

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It won't let you swap out of NPC encounters either

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same goes for shops

copper canopy
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I’ve done who knows how many runs and Eurydice refuses to spawn.

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It’s driving me crazy.

narrow hemlock
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bad luck unfortunately ):

copper canopy
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Yeah pretty much.

topaz yew
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whats the best weapon with Poseidon

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||We can actually kill skelly??||

desert meadow
copper canopy
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Nvm reread it

topaz yew
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it was easy

unborn remnant
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good take alex

topaz yew
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What about a Hephaestus DLC where he grants you traps of the gods to use for conventional boss fights

real gate
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Got the bad call achievement finally

fresh violet
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I have a question about the house contractor

desert meadow
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Fire away

topaz yew
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actually your right Fire based boons sound much better

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considering he is god of forge

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and he has Dea Synergy

desert meadow
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Only issue would be in Asphodel, since it's already on fire those could get hard to see

fresh violet
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There’s this one thing you can get for 4 diamonds/gems you know the valuable once, and what it gets you at the contractor is the green stuff to buy all sorts of decors in the house for (I’m sorry I’m so bad with names lol) you get this green stuff at every boss you defeat. Is this just a bonus reward or how does this upgrade work?

topaz yew
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ph

fresh violet
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If it’s too vague I’ll ask the question again after my run I’m not at the house rn

topaz yew
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everytime you defeat a boss it grants like 10 at base then every boss after it gives +10

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it helps a lot

desert meadow
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It's worth it, yeah

fresh violet
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Yess thank you that

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Alright so it’s just a bonus besides for example getting Titan blood for defeating Meg right?

desert meadow
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Yeah

fresh violet
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Cheers.

real gate
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Youd get bother the reward and gems

desert meadow
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Great for getting gems without going for their rooms

real gate
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Have way too much gems and nectar/ambrosia

fresh violet
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Haha I could use some

trail plover
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I am obsessed with this game.

real gate
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Currently got like 60 nectar/30 ambrosia/and I think 3k gems because I ran out of use for them

desert meadow
trail plover
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Hahaha it is just so good. I can’t put it down.

desert meadow
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I'd be playing more if it wasn't for college work

trail plover
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I’m about to start my first heat five dungeon.

desert meadow
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Good luck!

trail plover
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I just had an awesome run with the rail using Poseidon and Zeus with Dio.

hearty bramble
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zeus special is crazy good with bow 😳

desert meadow
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Normal bow?

hearty bramble
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yeah or hera

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bc the arrows spread out

desert meadow
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Good on Chiron too

hearty bramble
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and lightning goes boomboom

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oo i havent tried it on chiron :O

desert meadow
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Double Strike with Zeus special on Chiron is great

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Since you're hitting with a lot of arrows at once, that chance only goes up

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Same idea applies to Artemis' crits too

hearty bramble
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wait with chiron is it a bolt for each arrow??

rich acorn
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Im checking it out rn lol

desert meadow
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Nope, there's a limit of sorts.

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It's like every 3?

sharp nest
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Chiron is about the only time I really like Artemis boons. Maybe on the spear too lol

desert meadow
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I love Artemis boons, crits are amazing

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I think she works well on a lot of builds

loud lintel
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i dont like zeus special on chrion personally due to the internal cooldown

stone canyon
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I used to not like Artemis' call but i realized you can use it far more often than some of the other calls at least

sharp nest
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I feel like they never land when I need them to, but I also am super impatient

loud lintel
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i like demeter a lot on chiron since it scales with % damage AND # of hits as well

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especially if you get the chill stack explosion boon

stone canyon
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So if you have that call plus some boons to speed up your god gauge its dope

desert meadow
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Dio on Chiron isn't bad either

rich acorn
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Artemis attack is nice on ||Aspect of lucifer||

left axle
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||Wait the tunnels in temple of styx close now once you find the sack?||

desert meadow
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||If you give it to Ceberus, yes||

left axle
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oh

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oops

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its been a while and I just messed that up, found it first tunnel

desert meadow
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First? Really?

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I thought it never showed in the first one

rich acorn
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Yeah I find it in 2nd most often

desert meadow
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2nd or 3rd, yeah

eager flame
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i think i once found it in the first tunnel but im not sure

trail plover
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I did not think that it was possible to find it in the first satyr tunnel.

ornate bear
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it's not supposed to be possible, but at this point there's been over a dozen people saying it's happened to them once, so it might just be a rare bug

vapid narwhal
#

It's impossible to 1 sack

#

Must've misremembered

grand shale
#

guys make a decision for me: epic divine dash or stubborn roots

#

like i have no idea

loud lintel
#

Id go roots

#

Dash is much easier to get later in the run

grand shale
#

no but im in asphodel

wise sparrow
#

lets say roots restores 500hp throughout the run. dash will prevent 600dmg throughout the run

polar ore
#

I have something to post that's LIKE a victory screen but probably shouldn't go in that channel

grand shale
wise sparrow
#

dash

#

:/

grand shale
#

ight fam ill tell you if i win

desert meadow
#

Do you have death defiances still?

#

If so, roots won't do anything currently

#

Dash will help regardless

polar ore
#

Oh I can't post images here, but I finally got all the achievements

desert meadow
#

Congrats!

polar ore
#

Ty!

desert meadow
#

How long did it take you?

polar ore
#

105.3 hours

#

according to Steam

desert meadow
#

Nice, not bad

grand shale
#

I GOTTEM THANKS MAN

dull tangle
#

I GOT TO ||THE HADES FIGHT|| AND I DIED INSTANTLY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

grand shale
#

I KNOW THE FEELING BRUH

dull tangle
#

i got so far :(

#

i have no idea how i'm supposed to kill him

#

besides power through it ig

eager flame
#

nailing down dodging i think

#

haven't gotten that yet, i always deal as much damage as i can HAHAH I've only won twixe

runic lintel
#

Okay okay I’m confused

#

Some guy was talking to me about Hades, and said people think Aphrodite is ugly?

eager flame
#

i have never heard anyone say that

runic lintel
#

Then I am no longer confused

narrow hemlock
#

theres been a couple steam threads in which certain kinds of people have criticised her design for not being feminine enough but thats a small minority

pale scroll
#

looks great imo

#

dont see whats wrong

unborn remnant
#

@eager flame wait how have you only beaten it twice

runic lintel
#

“Waaah beautiful woman isn’t feminine enough”

#

Whatever that means

plucky phoenix
runic lintel
#

That’s what I said

#

He was like “she’s not conventionally beautiful”

#

???

narrow hemlock
#

some people have a very specific idea of what beauty is because societal expectations. her design is just fine

hazy ivy
#

How could Aphrodite not look feminine enough that makes no sense

runic lintel
#

People look at too much NSFW stuff and go “yes, this is all that beauty is”

past mirage
#

I've seen a few redraws of Aphrodite with removed cheekbones. It seems the artists preferred a smoother face.

urban path
#

she doesn't have mega bazoompers and a dump truck so she isn't hot enough

past mirage
#

I don't see those as any point for criticism, but different strokes for different blokes, I guess

runic lintel
#

So many people have very specific tastes I guess

#

I simply see pretty lady and go “oooh, pretty”

meager steppe
#

Persephone is a hottie. No joke.

#

So is nyx.

#

So is Aphrodite.

#

They’re all beautiful.

urban path
#

milves across the board

runic lintel
#

They can all step on me

meager steppe
#

It’s like saying you have to choose between cake or pie. They’re both amazing. Let’s acknowledge it.

runic lintel
#

Yes

desert meadow
#

I like Aphrodite's design, I think it fits without going overboard.

eager flame
#

I've attempted escaping 73 times zaglol

desert meadow
#

Pffffft

#

Took me 80 tries to do it once

runic lintel
#

I beat the game one time, but then crashed because I tried to tab after taking a screenshot

#

😔

desert meadow
#

oooooo that sucks

runic lintel
#

Haven’t played since

eager flame
#

its frustrating because I do fairly well until the final boss and sometimes theseus

#

rarely the poison

desert meadow
#

The poison sucks

runic lintel
#

I had fallen a bit into the trap of doing the same thing every run

desert meadow
#

However, the Athena boon that helps against traps does help on the poison

eager flame
#

i'm trying to get better at dodging and making more careful decisions because i often just charge at the enemies full force

runic lintel
#

Me

desert meadow
#

What weapons do you prefer?

unborn remnant
#

yeah try not to do that

#

@eager flame have you tried making a build around athena boons

#

like zag fists with athena attack, artemis special, athena dash?

#

throw in ares for damage buffs?

desert meadow
#

Athena call too

eager flame
#

i dont have any strategies but i'll keep it in mind 😳

#

ah yeah athena call

#

i almost won last time with the sword and athena call

eager flame
meager steppe
#

Sword is tough. It was my last weapon I managed to use for an escape. And even then it was a cast build.

desert meadow
#

Fun fact, since the greater call is the normal amount times 6, if you buff the call to last .5 seconds more, the greater call will be 3 seconds longer

desert meadow
eager flame
#

i think i prefer the spear/sword although ive only beaten ||hades|| with the shield and twin fists

#

I did not spell that right

desert meadow
#

Achilles spear might help

unborn remnant
#

@eager flame just look up some mega easy builds

#

that go brr

#

you'll get clears

eager flame
#

i'll try that, thanks!

urban path
#

eris gun goes stupid

#

and magnet fists

unborn remnant
eager flame
#

magnet fists are so op

desert meadow
#

Talos fists is amazing

urban path
#

also death defiance >>> stubborn defiance imo

eager flame
#

yeah totally

unborn remnant
#

check that video alex

desert meadow
#

Even if you forget to use attack and just use the special, Talos is good

eager flame
#

i will! thank you for sharing shadesmile

unborn remnant
#

np

urban path
#

still have to beat the final boss with stubborn defiance for the achievement

desert meadow
#

I actually did that within two tries

runic lintel
#

I like stubborn defiance because it means

desert meadow
#

I switched to just the green side of the mirror and went for it

eager flame
#

in my current run i'm about to face theseus with chiron bow

runic lintel
#

I can just take as much damage as I want, and then suicide to get health back

#

Lel

desert meadow
#

died the first time on the hydra cause of a chaos curse, and then did it the next time

urban path
#

tried that, switched back to normal death defiance and won, so it's just that one perk left

unborn remnant
#

good luck

#

dont lose

urban path
#

good advice

desert meadow
#

I had a busted build tbh, ares dash is insane when buffed

#

Combine that with triple jab on the spear and I dash attacked the bosses to death

unborn remnant
#

Demeter shows up: i sleep
Rare Crop: 👀

trail plover
#

||I maxed out Hades relationship meter and now I have a "bond". Does this do anything?||

prisma wind
#

Just gives you a nice little chibi badge on the keepsake

desert meadow
#

^

unborn remnant
#

FIRST CHIBI ACQUIRED

desert meadow
#

Which one?

unborn remnant
#

Athena

trail plover
#

Cute, thanks. ^^

ornate bear
#

man it's really hard to see the athena chibi in emoji reaction form

desert meadow
#

Athena, nice

eager flame
desert meadow
#

Ouch

#

What a way to go

unborn remnant
#

Thats tough

eager flame
#

i didn't go into chaos's realm for a hot while until i realized his boons also had some less harmful effects hah

#

now me and chaos are best buds

desert meadow
#

I take his boons whenever I can tbh, unless it's too close to a boss for my liking. I don't enjoy fighting one with a curse on

eager flame
#

ah yeah totally

wise sparrow
#

glad i could help :)

runic lintel
#

My first one was Artemis

#

Cause she’s a cutie

#

: )

#

Second was chaos

desert meadow
#

Artemis then Ceberus

runic lintel
#

Why do fictional characters have to be cuter than the people I know. 😔

unborn remnant
#

Exiting Asphodel with a level 5 heroic zeus shield

#

LMAO

desert meadow
#

nice

#

What boons do you have on it?

unborn remnant
#

Zeus special

desert meadow
#

oooo

austere jacinth
eager flame
#

i want jen to design me

runic lintel
#

Maybe I’ll just commission Jen to design some real people for me

eager flame
#

HAHAHAH for real

desert meadow
#

Wonder how much she charges

eager flame
#

let me check her twitter

runic lintel
#

Man, I always want to pay artists to make me stuff

#

I just need to get money

#

😔

unborn remnant
#

who?

eager flame
#

jen is the designer and art director of hades

runic lintel
#

Ye

eager flame
#

there isn't any info about commissions on her twt shadegrief

austere jacinth
#

I expect she's very in demand, given her talent.

desert meadow
#

^^^^

eager flame
#

yeah!

desert meadow
#

I was curious how much she'd ask for, considering her skills

#

but rip

unborn remnant
#

shes also a full time artist

#

with sgg?

#

Idk just assuming

austere jacinth
#

Yeah, but looking at her twitter, she also does other work. There's a board game she's done the art for.

shrewd helm
#

Oh yea. Thanks for recommending ||tight deadline|| as a first ||HEAT||

runic lintel
#

She might be willing to do commission work but just doesn’t advertise it, since she works full time

shrewd helm
#

Cleared it no problem with the bow

runic lintel
#

But who knows

shrewd helm
#

I got all this titan blood but I kinda dont know if I should save it until I unlock the hidden aspects

#
  1. What aspects did some of u guys invest into early on?
#

I figure if I keep playing I'll max them all out regardless

austere jacinth
#

Eris is a blast. Pun intended.

desert meadow
#

I went for Chrion and Chaos, decided Chaos needed upgrading, and then bought Talos and Zeus next

shrewd helm
#

For the gun

#

I think I already invested that to level one. It's pretty nice

desert meadow
#

Achilles is also a good pick

shrewd helm
#

Nice thx. Those look good too

#

Really I suppose they can all be good. The game seems very balanced

#

I just gotta learn how to build around them

desert meadow
#

Yeah

#

There isn't a bad pick

eager flame
desert meadow
#

Hera is good

#

I prefer Chiron by a little, but Hera is great

eager flame
#

i barely use my casts so i dont know much about the hera bow

#

does it automatically fire the casts

plucky phoenix
#

||is the gun good and i just gotta get used to it or is it just bad||

austere jacinth
#

It's my fave weapon

desert meadow
#

You hit b to load the cast, then it fires with your next shot

#

It’s like hitting with both at once, great for high burst damage

eager flame
#

ahhh i see

desert meadow
plucky phoenix
#

it just feels so underpowered

eager flame
#

yeah exactly

desert meadow
#

Try one of the aspects for it then

#

Both add extra damage

eager flame
#

i'm using eris but i dislike reloading sm

#

also i don't know why but the special sometimes changes place from where I want it to land randomly?

#

like i aim it and fire but midfire it goes to a different place

#

i have no control over it lmao so i just kinda deal with it

austere jacinth
#

Probably bouncing off a wall or pillar.

plucky phoenix
#

yeah it's that

eager flame
#

ah really? that explains things

plucky phoenix
#

it has the same physics as dionysus cast

eager flame
#

i miss dionysus... this game occupies my headspace 60% of the time atm

unborn remnant
#

Preferred Aspects: Poseidon, Achilies, Chaos, Hera, Zag Fists, Eris

eager flame
#

oh i completely forgot about the shield

plucky phoenix
#

shield is my favorite

eager flame
#

yeah its really powerful and really to use

#

but it gets kinda boring for me so i prefer the spear

#

i use zeus's aspect for the shield but i used chaos for a long time

maiden belfry
#

quick q that might be kidna dumb
what do people mean theyre saying "legendary (aspect) run"

eager flame
#

isn't it the rarity of the aspect/how much you've upgraded it?

#

not sure though i'm probably completely wrong

runic lintel
#

||The gun and the bow are the only weapons I’m good with||

dapper oriole
#

Those are the 2 weapons I never use. 😮

shrewd helm
#

Also am I suppose to establish a role in this server or is it not necessary

austere jacinth
#

My fave towards the beginning was the bow, though my fave now is the gun.

shrewd helm
#

I like the bow and the shield. But the spear was mad fun my last successful run with it

austere jacinth
#

I like most of the weapons though. I'm probably not as good with the Spear as others. xD

shrewd helm
#

I had a couple hammers so I was jabbing with 3 spears and longer range

austere jacinth
#

But my love of Achilles means I must master it.

shrewd helm
#

I never use the charge with the spear

#

I think there is a hammer upgrade that wipes it from the run and gives u consecutive jabs

runic lintel
shrewd helm
#

I like the bow a lot

#

I think it makes boss fights way more chill lol

eager flame
shrewd helm
#

But I grab whatever has 20% darkness

eager flame
runic lintel
#

I like the bow because I play enter the gungeon

narrow hemlock
runic lintel
#

Nuff said

eager flame
austere jacinth
#

I just... neeeeeeded to reunite them so bad. And I gotta make Achilles proud with my battle prowess. Can't let my ~~better dad ~~teacher down.

eager flame
#

HAHAHA big mood shadesmile

#

when achilles calls zag his best pupil i just go 🥺💕💖💞💗

shrewd helm
potent badger
#

"hey did you know there's a whole aspect of this spear named after you, Mr. Achilles sir? What a coincidence!"
"um... sure, kid."

trail plover
#

I am beginning to realize that I am really bad with the spear.

unborn remnant
#

I relate

trail plover
#

I usually cannot kill things effectively enough.

shrewd helm
#

Just dash strike and jab

#

Forget the charge attack lol

#

And apply doom or something to the throw if u want

#

But a couple of my fastest runs are with the spear so far but I would give credit to the daedalus hammers making it more efficient

trail plover
#

I rarely use the special because it is even slower than the regular attack.

#

My typical approach is dash-striking.

#

I do know it's a good weapon. I am just bad with it.

#

My fastest clear is 23 minutes with the gloves.

shrewd helm
#

Yea I only use it on bosses if it has something like doom but in chambers it sucks imo

runic parrot
#

achilles special is fun to use, so is the hidden spear

shrewd helm
#

The charge attack also feels impractical. But I'm also very new. I have not found very many builds

trail plover
#

One of the aspects applies a buff if you use the charged attack.

shrewd helm
#

Oh nice

trail plover
#

It's good to use if you're waiting for enemies to spaw.

#

Just sort of stand in the middle and release.

shrewd helm
#

I could see myself using it if it had a purpose like that

trail plover
#

Then jab jab stab your way through them.

shrewd helm
#

Like eris

#

I usually dont use exagyphs special

#

But eris makes it fun

runic parrot
#

hades spear is very fun to spin, especially with its increased range

#

if you get the hammer that increases its range even more its even more fun

shrewd helm
#

I love the work they put in and the balancing. Its clear to see how different ppl have all different preferences though I'm sure they is some sort of META for the record ||heats|| and such

#

The sword I have the hardest time finishing a run but tbh I have thr most fun and I'm usually shaking when I'm fighting ||hades||

trail plover
#

Yeah, I also find builds specific to weapons helpful as well.

shrewd helm
#

I am on switch but I might buy it on steam too

#

Or is it steam?

eager flame
#

hades?

shrewd helm
#

You can cross over the save file too I believe

eager flame
#

yeah

#

i play it on my laptop

shrewd helm
#

My thumbs get sore on the switch

#

So I should go and move it to my pc lol

#

I'm sorry if this is off topic but any of u guys play enter the gungeon?

eager flame
#

haven't tried it on the switch but playing on my laptop is really easy to me!

#

my wrist just sometimes gets sore bc of how i hold my mouse but

#

also no idk what that game is

shrewd helm
#

Out of the roguelite I've played, that use to be my favorite but this one is way better imo

#

Its another roguelite bullet hell kinda game

#

Less forgiving I would say but addicting enough to keep u hooked

brazen lagoon
#

Never really like EtG personally

runic lintel
#

My favourite roguelike will always be EtG

shrewd helm
#

This game has such an amazing story ontop of smooth gameplay that I cant get enough

runic lintel
#

: )

runic parrot
#

i like etg but i like hades more

shrewd helm
#

I never finished the ammonomicon @runic lintel

runic lintel
#

!!!

shrewd helm
#

I had two more items from the rat king

#

To get

runic lintel
#

Did you at least

#

100% it on steam

runic parrot
#

its less of a roguelike than etg but i like the sense of progression you get with each death in this game

shrewd helm
#

Xbox but yea

runic lintel
#

Good

shrewd helm
#

I had all the cheevos

runic parrot
#

probably why i dont like many roguelik/tes

shrewd helm
#

Dead cells kicked my butt

#

I made it to boss cell 3 if u are familiar with that one

#

But that's when I hit a wall and stopped

#

I havnt played any other games from supergiant btw

#

Any u guys reccomend?

#

Bastion I've heard about

#

Looks like a good time

runic parrot
shrewd helm
#

Ah no kidding my bad

somber star
#

I've only played Hades

#

But they all sound good

shrewd helm
#

Children of morta Is a roguelite too I guess

somber star
#

It is

shrewd helm
#

Also credit for a great story but not as good as hades

#

Maybe in its own way

#

That game had a certain charm to it that made me happy when I played it

somber star
#

I beat it in roughly 15 hours

#

But it was definetly good while it lasted

shrewd helm
#

Yea it wasn't very long. They did add a ng+ to it later on but I never tried it

somber star
#

Same

shrewd helm
#

I dont think anything was added to the story

somber star
#

Nah just makes the game harder

shrewd helm
#

If I read that there was, I'm sure I would've gone for it

#

Yea

#

I turned god mode on after my first couple clears and now I dont wanna turn it off lol

#

The cushion is really nice

#

But maybe I should next run and see if I can try to clear a run or if I got complacent

trail plover
#

What does god mode do?

shrewd helm
#

It adds 20% damage resistance

#

And, if u die, it adds 2% each death

trail plover
#

That's neat!

shrewd helm
#

U can toggle it off anytime. But if u toggle it back on I dont think it resets back to 20%

trail plover
#

You'll find very soon that you won't need it. ^^

shrewd helm
#

My last run I finished I didnt use a single death defiance so I would like to think I'm improving

#

But I'll see. I'm gonna toggle it off and see if I have gotten better

trail plover
#

Yeah, that's awesome!

#

Which weapon did you succeed with?

shrewd helm
#

The spear

trail plover
#

Nice. I think my first victory was with the fists.

shrewd helm
#

I had a bunch of different olympians so I got the mirror bonus. The butterflies 2% bonus dmg for each chamber cleared wo dmg

#

And some nice buffs from the hammer

#

I felt like ||hades||died faster than ever that run

#

My first was the shield

trail plover
#

Hahaha when I first used the gloves for my victory run I was so nervous

#

I was pretty sure that I would die before Elysium. That area was also just the one I struggled with the most

shrewd helm
#

I think if I got the dash that can deflect, I feel a little better with the gloves

trail plover
#

but I quite literally melted the Elysium boss fight and went into ||Hades|| with three death defies.

#

Gloves with any damage inducing dash is good

shrewd helm
#

I love leaving elysium with all death defiance

trail plover
#

I think that run I had a dash that inflicted weak

shrewd helm
#

Losing one to poison suxks

trail plover
#

so foes did less damage

#

I forget what my basic attack did. Probably hangover

shrewd helm
#

I always try to save gold incase I can buy a death defiance from the purple thing

#

I thought hangover was so good at first. That and chain lightning

#

I havnt used either in a while though

trail plover
#

Chain lightning is great if you can get jolted

#

It's a status that causes damage when your foes try to attack

#

great against bosses

shrewd helm
#

Oh I've gotten jolted before. I actually took a while to get it though

#

Was the last one I needed for that prohpecy

#

I cant recall exactly but I am pretty sure that's how I got my win with the gloves

#

I'll check the archives lol

eager flame
#

quick question- ambrosia delight or pom porridge?

runic parrot
#

refreshing nectar

#

between those two i'd get ambrosia because rarity is always better than single levels

shrewd helm
#

I almost always pick ambrosia

eager flame
#

and between ambrosia and nectar?

unborn remnant
#

nectar

runic parrot
#

depends on the run rly but i always go for the nectar

unborn remnant
#

you need it for the friends

eager flame
#

no i mean

unborn remnant
#

did you clear your run yet btw?

shrewd helm
#

Eurydice

unborn remnant
#

with any of those builds?

eager flame
#

KJADHKAJDH ambrosia delight or refreshing nectar

runic parrot
#

ambrosia is very rng dependent tbh and i dont like it

#

but if there's a certain boon you want its rarity to upgrade, go pick the ambrosia

#

otherwise i'd gravitate towards the nectar

eager flame
runic parrot
eager flame
#

hmm true

unborn remnant
#

yeah thats true

#

wait

#

i didnt mean to say true after you did

#

🗿

twin moat
#

I mean

#

That one got me to a run with 5 to 6 heroic boons

#

It can be a really good one

#

Ofc ||dementer|| had something to do but

#

The ambrosia helped a lot

eager flame
#

i'll go with nectar for this one since death is likely unless patroclus appears

runic parrot
#

cross your fingers for patty

#

once got him in clutch during a ||21-heat run|| on the final room in elysium with no DDs left

#

i won that because of him

#

gods bless patroclus

eager flame
#

died to lernie. genuinely embarrassing HAHAHA

unborn remnant
#

oh well

#

next time

#

try some of those new builds i sent

eager flame
#

i will!

#

also should i buy the bust of the old man or the portrait of the exalted hero

#

most important decision in this game

unborn remnant
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

shrewd helm
#

The fates replacing RNGesus in this server

#

I love it

eager flame
#

wait actually important now- privileged status or family favorite?

runic parrot
#

depends on your build

#

ps is very specific but ff is overall better for any build

unborn remnant
#

@eager flame if you're doing one of the builds from the vid

#

it says

eager flame
#

ah yeah

shrewd helm
#

They talk like this ambrosia or nectar is alcoholic. Or is it cause it's just a treat to have in hell

somber star
#

It's like expensive candy

acoustic plank
#

Ambrosia is literally the food of the gods. Enjoyed on Mount Olympus mainly, it is thought to have been inspired by honey or mead.

somber star
#

Yeah

acoustic plank
#

Or pomegranates.

#

Lots of things really

runic lintel
#

iirc it’s also supposed to make someone feel warm and happy

shrewd helm
#

Wow. That I didnt know and it just puts me into perspective how much thought they put into the game

eager flame
#

alright trying the poseidon sword build

runic parrot
#

how do you get the athena dd glitch

#

is it just like sd where you have to lose all of your dd's first

unborn remnant
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@eager flame I like to run it with artemis attack, poseidon dash and zeus cast

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then ares for passives

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aphrodite also works

runic parrot
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crush shot and exit wounds is all you'll need

eager flame
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oh i'm gonna try the one in the video akjdhajds

unborn remnant
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fair enough

eager flame
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ok this is op

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KJADHSKJADSH

unborn remnant
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yes its good in tartarus

narrow bronze
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For the pact of punishment with tight deadline , in the ||temple of Styx||, do you get 9 min to finish the entire region AND ||beat hades|| or do you get 9 min for each

scarlet isle
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Eh... i have a question

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||How i can reach the epilogue?||

brazen lagoon
scarlet isle
prisma wind
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Presumably you've seen credits already, GringoGuy, so you just need to ||keep doing runs, talking to Persephone, and forging bonds with all the gods. Persephone should give you a prophecy to fulfill that outlines the requirements||

eager flame
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ok sigh this sword build thing isn't working out 😔

runic parrot
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if you're not used to sword it's pretty hard

eager flame
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ah i've gotten to ||hades|| with the sword a lot of times ASDHAKSD maybe it's bc i'm not used to casting

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i've been using nemesis sword for a while

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hmm it works well in mob fights but i really got my ass beat by alecto

unborn remnant
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@eager flame just spam the cast

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just go zap zap zap

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get chaos boons to buff cast

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dont really use your special other than to dislodge

eager flame
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ahhh okay

somber star
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Lightning Rod looks really good

unborn remnant
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also get exit wounds

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and quick reload

hearty bramble
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lightning rod is pretty epic

unborn remnant
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does that help

somber star
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If I can find it

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Sure

hearty bramble
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just got 49/49 achievements :')

somber star
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Pog

eager flame
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it's definitely been a productive run though, completed two prophecies

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well

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we'll get them next time

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AHAHAH

somber star
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Rip

hearty bramble
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im about to fight lernie i will avenge u

eager flame
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go get them !

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"my only regret is not learning how to dodge spears. cause of death: impalement"

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ASJDHKJAHDSA

hollow hawk
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The aphrodite one is even better lol

somber star
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Lightning Rod is Broken

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I killed theseus before asterius

strong ridge
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how do i change the portrait in the lounge

trail plover
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Just completed a Hades run in 20 minutes for the firs time!!!

somber star
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Nice

trail plover
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That is the fastest that I have ever done it. XD

somber star
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Should I be full clearing styx before fighting ||Hades||?

novel wasp
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No

hollow hawk
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It changes every run

hollow hawk
novel wasp
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also paper why are you telegram

hollow hawk
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SHUT UP

novel wasp
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Telegram

hollow hawk
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i designed my pfp before telegram ok :(((

novel wasp
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its a paper plane

hollow hawk
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I didnt know about their existence

somber star
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Ok so don't fc got it

novel wasp
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its not that hard

hollow hawk
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And if you're going for a speedrun

somber star
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It's fairly good and the elite doors would give me poseidon, zeus and and pom

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I don't care about speedrunning

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I just want to beat the game

hollow hawk
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Wait

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Is this your first clear

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Like have you cleared before

somber star
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No I get to ||Hades|| every run

hollow hawk
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Oh then dont full clear styx

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Beat final boss

somber star
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Oh ok then

dusky wedge
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So, Nintendo sent me an email for a survey regarding a recent purchase I’ve made on my Switch. The most recent purchase I’ve made was a racing game on sale, so I was responding to the survey with that racing game in mind. Later on when I did read the email, I realized that they actually meant it for the Hades purchase I’ve made weeks before...

novel wasp
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ngl pom is not that great of a door

somber star
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It's not

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I just keep dying to ||Hades||

hollow hawk
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depends, poms can be insane when you have a lvl 1 aphro attack

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Especially big poms, that is

novel wasp
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yeah but thats late to get a level 1 aphro

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when you are already at styx

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i shouldve had it early into the run

hollow hawk
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Beyond lvl 4-5 main attack/special boons, poms get meh

somber star
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I'm just going to try to fight him again, I've got a solid build and 4 dd's

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I think I can win

novel wasp
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take athena to cheese

hollow hawk
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Try to dodge his attacks, and not to get too greedy

novel wasp
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if you really just wanna win

hollow hawk
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Patience is key

somber star
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I have Poseidon call

novel wasp
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smacks table with block of cheese 🧀

hollow hawk
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He telegraphs all his attacks, learn the telegraphs and dodge before he attacks

somber star
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I'll do my best

hollow hawk
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Also, you can dodge through em

somber star
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Yeah

hollow hawk
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So if he goes for the spear thrust, you can just dodge through him

somber star
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I just need to get the timing down

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Going into ||second phase|| with all 4 dd's

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Looking good

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I DID IT

light siren
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Is there a doc that goes into excruciating detail about how damages are calculated? I'm specifically looking for the answers to these questions:

  1. do dash-strikes benefit from boons that boost Attack?
  2. For Aspect of Hestia (rail with empowered shot after manual reload) what is factored into the final damage of that bolt?
  3. If you fire Hestia it at the end of a dash does it benefit from Artemis' dash strike bonus?
  4. Do dash strikes in general benefit from both attack bonuses and artemis' dash strike boon?
  5. If you get the "shotgun" hammer upgrade on Hestia, does the purple empowered shot get the empowerment, or the first shotgun blast, and is the base damage of the empowered shot upped to the shotgun's 40 or does it keep calculating based on the normal base damage?
brazen lagoon
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i can answer 1 and 4
1.no
4.dash strikes only benefit from dash strike bonuses, not attack bonuses

plucky phoenix
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yeah it needs to specifically say that it'll boost dash strike

brazen lagoon
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and the shotgun upgrade for hestia doesnt work

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the empowered shot is a normal bullet

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the rest are shotgun blasts

light siren
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also, it seems like if you give up and retry the RNG stays the same as long as you make the same decisions. Do we know exactly what player decisions can influence your options the next time there is a choice?I get the sense the list includes:

  1. Which boon you choose from a god or hammer
  2. Every time you use Fated Authority or Fated Persuasion
  3. Whether you win/lose Erebus challenges and Thanatos duels
light siren
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With aspect of Hera, all that's happening is that it's like you are firing off all the casts at once, at the point where the arrow lands, right? There's no multiplicative effect between the arrow damage itself and the cast damage?

somber star
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||That was a pretty great ending||

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Bit surprised at no credits but

brazen lagoon
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PepeLaugh

brazen lagoon
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they do not

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dash strikes and attacks are different things

sharp fossil
sharp fossil
brazen lagoon
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then why does chaos offer dash strike and attack boons?

sharp fossil
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for boons a dash strike is a kind of attack

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hammers generally work differently for whatever reason, but for boons they absolutely stack

sharp fossil
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weapons like swords and bows (where you’re always dash attacking) would be used massively differently if a dash attack was not a kind of attack

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for the purposes of boons

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hammers are a bit weirder

somber star
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What ||condition|| should I use

sharp fossil
sharp fossil
manic bobcat
sharp fossil
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The benefit of Hera is one part the instantaneous cast activation (really good for Trippy Shot) one part the range (really good for Crush Shot) and one part the reduced bloodstone drop time

somber star
sharp fossil
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try ||EM1|| or ||TD1|| to start

somber star
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Ok

manic bobcat
# light siren Is there a doc that goes into excruciating detail about how damages are calculat...
  1. Yes. Dash strike is a sub category of attack. Square and rectangle.
  2. It's just a normal attack with 150 base damage. So treat it like a normal attack.
  3. Yes. Hunter Dash is highly recommended on Hestia, in fact.
  4. Yes.
  5. Spreadfire works on Hestia at close range. So you have an empower shot with longer range than the blast. If you are at point blank, your enemies get hit by both the shotgun blast and the empowered shot. If you are further away, your enemies get hit only by the empowered shot.
trail plover
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I was doing so well with the spear until I lost three death defies to the Elysium champions

manic bobcat
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git gud :3

sharp fossil
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huh there’s still a shotgun blast on the first hestia shot?

manic bobcat
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There is always one.