#h1-discussion
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same tbh
nah nah nah not one of those
The sound his boon makes sticks in my head the most
Sounds like a bottle popping and laughter
yess
Now you have that sound playing in my head
He is chill
its a different series that just looks at how busted smash games are with only text and gameplay
I always remember the ares sound
just some dude screaming
ah yknow, maybe an excuse for apollo not being in the game is that the sun doesn't shine in the underworld or something
what is that even supposed to mean do they like pick a random smash game/fangame and tell you if it's "broken" or not?
Nah, Artemis just won't let him help
thunder also doesnt strike in the underworld, neither do waves smash lol
the moon doesnt shine in the underworld either
or neither do people have feasts there really
what about the ||epilogue||
its probably just they had to pick a certain number of gods, and they picked the ones that made the most sense
i havent gotten there yet so cant judge lol
Here wait
Plus Apollo would be another yellow/tan colored one, it'd clash with Athena
how the hell did they think of "damage over time" and decide to associate the god of wine and feast with it
poison?
Food poisoning
I looked up which people give ||companions|| but what kind of perks does everyone else offer when u do their ||favors||
i really didn't think that one through
Isn't alcohol basically poison anyway?
nothing, just friendo points
now we're talking babyyy
Cool so I'll prioritize the ones for ||companions|| first.
yeah you should
I'm almost maxed out with everyone but than is being a pain
god mode doesnt really do anything, its just like 20% dmg reduction, that increases by +2% each time you die
depends on the drinks
I think
Idk I have no experience
someone once told me you had to lose to thanatos to see him more frequently and i didn't realize they were wrong until like my 60th escape 
I think raw alcohol is very bad for the body though
Idk, seems close enough to link the two together
TIL
im like on run 88
I just never see than in runs
I'm around 188 runs and I got Thanatos favor today.
Wait, losing to him helps the chances of seeing him back at the house?
I kinda wish the bull would visit the house of hades and had his own sequence towards favor. I like him
but it isn't true
oh
no one:
Thanatos: loud ass gong sound
NOOO
guh dong
Than has issues, he likes gongs too much
i said every time i hear that gong i lose my sh*t
Than is in his emo phase
I got a fever and the only cure is more gong
That'd be nice.
yo, does hyper sprint affect rush delivery?
except that its never over for him
yess
its the best way to increase your damage in the game
hyper sprint + rush delivery
So, what about Hypnos?
DAAANG
i dont even have both rn (just hyper sprint) i just wondered
than is also the god of "it's not a phase mom"
i literally go for rush delivery each time i have hyper sprint
hypnos is just a whole vibe you have when youre between the age of 13-25
I hope I can finish than soon
I've only cleared a couple times but arnt they suppose to be out of the loop to avoid knowledge of ||persephone||
"SHOW ME A PERMANENT STATE OF THE SELF, MOM"
hypnos is the type of guy who uses humor and sarcasm to cope with the fact that he's been disliked by his family since the beginning of time
so basically me
Hypnos is just that person you know that is always happy no matter what.
"no one sees me as anything more than a joke so i might as well be a good joke :)"
I love waking up Hypnos lol.
YEAH
thats hypnos, thats his entire character
he deserves better idc
i want good things for hypnos and honestly who doesn't
ITS FUNNY CUZ BEFORE IVE USED THAT EXACT SENTENCE TO DESCRIBE HOW I INTERPRET TOP MAN
FROM MEGA MAN 3
Funny thing is, I can see Hades treating Hypnos better then he does his own son
There's gotta be some reason he's on guard duty but is allowed to sleep away most of that time
well he's a chthonic diety so technically he has a bit more presence in the underworld than hades
"They'll never catch me sleeping on the job ever again"
That's one of my favorite line from Hypnos lol.
if hades cant see till the ||second entrance to the lounge|| maybe he cant see hypnos sleeping
autocorrect tried to make chthonic into "catholic" lmao
Biased phone
I'm pretty sure he can see Hypnos from where he is.
but then why cant he see ||2nd entrance||
hmm
well i guess the angles are a bit different
He chooses not to notice any work orders Zag puts in, he's afraid to admit they're improvements.
Hades does say something when you do that contract.
True
Hades probably knows everything that happens in the house.
Even Skelly?
That's an oversimplification. That's the face he wears--the facade--but he's a lot more than that. He doesn't really know where he fits, or if the place he's been put is for him, he's got a lot less poise than his mother or brothers (at least compared to the ones we see), and he struggles to live up to his potential. He's sweet.
ah yeah! totally
And no way does Hades know anything about what Nyx doesn't want him to know!
i was exaggerating
Or Charon!
technically skelly isn't inside the house
Technically, yeah
The courtyard is part of the House xDD
But, yeah, I'd be very surprised if Hades knew all of Nyx's secrets, or all of Charon's.
He has his secrets, they have theirs
I'm not sure what secrets he'd have that Nyx wouldn't know.
The boulder?
HAHAHA me either but i will try next time
You can talk to it? Lol
He's a total bro.
Damn this whole time..
Mama Nyx sees all... and if she doesn't, I guess she could just ask her daughters xDD
Just keep playing the game and you'll eventually find out more about characters, even at 188 runs I still have new dialogues where I learn more about the characters of the game.
ah unrelated but may i just say the details and art style of this game never fail to impress me? dashing with the artemis boon is beautiful https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705168531095945276/804889858295201842/unknown.png
The game looks so good
The amount of details in this game is just so amazing.
I love the effects every boon adds to your weapons
It's just... so well made, so well designed, so well put together, and so fun!
exactly !
I know I'm gonna be using these characters as benchmarks for judging other games from now on xDD
they didn't have to go this hard with every aspect of the game but i'm so glad they did because the result is beautiful
Yeah, I can't think of anything I really dislike. The only improvement I could ever suggest would be 'more?' xDD
Same
the only improvements would be a hypnos storyline and apollo/hephaestus references
otherwise can't really complain about anything
Hera too, I need to see if Hades is scared of her
AH YEAH HERA she's at least mentioned in the weapons
Yeah
I REALLY WANT HERA SHE'S AWFUL...
Apollo and Heph get one ref each, I think. I'd love to see the codex entry for Apollo. Achilles's rant would be great.
exactly!
i think hephaestus and daedalus getting to hang out would be amazing
I love how her bow is just covered in skulls, it's perfect
Apollo's codex entry: -Codex just starts screaming expletives-
I really think he'd be the next god that gets added
Apollo codex entry be like [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [C
that dash is actually caused by ||having high heat, i think it's 5 or higher?||
He'd be fantastic to see. He's a god of so many things and it'd give Artie someone to bounce off of. And yeah... poor Achilles.
nope, i took the screenshot
its dash strike artemis
ah
the particle effect looks similar so i was Confused
I would love to see Artemis apologizing to Zag about how stupid her brother is
"apollo, the god of the sun, music, plague, and being a little m[REDACTED] [REDACTED]"
what beef would he have with apollo i dont remember
Apollo basically killed Achilles... and Pat
AH
Of course he did
Eris kickstarted the war
yeah i thought it was something like that
Apollo didn't start it.
yeah but apollo played a part in it
wasnt it caused by like 4 different people at once
one thing led to another and oops !
Eris, then Aphro really.
If it's not Zeus' fault, Apollo is a likely second guess
'i think i will cause problems on purpose' -eris, all the time
Gateways, Erebus or Vanquisher's Keep
Exactly my response, he needs hooves
Eris dropped an apple at a party, having marked it for 'the most beautiful'. The gods started bickering and basically picked this Paris kid to decide for them. Aphrodite promises Paris the most beautiful woman in the world should Paris pick her. He does. Aphro is like '... So this is Helen'.
aphrodite caused paris and helen to get involved but apollo was already causing a plague because the king offended a priest of apollo, but i can't remember that well because i haven't read the iliad in a while
Which one should I choose
what a sick plot point that would be
Mythology is weird yo
"Apollo plays a key role in some of the most important scenes in The Iliad. In Book 1, he brings a plague on the Acheaens for disrespecting his priest, Chryses, by kidnapping his daughter. This plague launches the conflict between Agamemnon and Achilles. In Books 15-16, he helps Hector kill Achilles' friend Patroclus."
Gateways, Erebus or Vanquisher's Keep
Basically, the gods get involved in all the things and usually it gets... -gestures to the Trojan war- messy.
^
is it ever indicated what war is supposed to be happening on the surface
very messy
help
i don't think so
Not that I remember
Time is nebulous in Hades.
How good is Erebus?
ares says "very few armies are involved"
Although I like how they incorporated that weird detail about some beliefs that Zagreus and Dionysus are the same into the game.
Oh its a no hit thing?
yeah you can't take damage
Yeah Im not getting that then
or else you don't get the reward
bought the helios thing for the west hall thinking it would tell me the time but its always 7:48
@pearl saddle it’s worth it in Tartarus
tbh they're not that hard as long as you use the pillars
Vanquisher's Keep is much better then
Maaaaybe in Asphodel
Don’t do it in Elysium
Also Erebus has a different requirement for each zone
oh gotcha I've only done them in tartarus
oh
ive never had high enough [REDACTED] to do it beyond tartarus yea
they're not that hard there
You’ll get them all eventually, so get whichever you want
i don't know what i did but i got erebus for the first time in asphodel and it caught me completely off guard
If you merely want Erebus’ journal entry, ||there’s another way to get to Erebus without the gates||
ah ||i got there bc I shoplifted charon||
i forgot there was another way to get there
That's a paddlin'.
i really thought i was getting 500 for free 
I actually never ||shoplifted|| until I read about what happens, so mildly disappointed I was too timid to do it myself and experience the surprise firsthand.
i just grabbed it bc it was there
||(Record Scratch)
“Look at me, Charon!”||
JSBAJSNSKKD
I didn't grab it for a long time. I thought it was rude. But then- xDD
I’m too used to Spelunky punishing that behavior badly.
||I would loved to have eavesdropped on Hermes and Charon at the epilogue party. Love their relationship.||
I always snatched the bag
||when zagreus started apologizing by saying he didn't mean any actual harm and he was just used to taking everything from his father's realm, he technically wasn't lying in my escape HAHAH||
||Murderous shopkeepers are a staple of Roguelikes||
what hypnos said about it was SO funny
Dangit that spoiled me 
everyone else's reactions were also hilarious
Yeah but we were talking about something else
It’s fine
I guess 
Feeling a lot of emotions ignore me
You did nothing wrong
I’m weird like that
I still feel bad.

Well stop it wasn’t that bad(maybe)
I’m off, I have things to do anyways
Don’t wanna make things worse
Kbai

Aww.
I’ve literally experienced 95% of the game at this point and thought I was safe, I only haven’t completed that last prophecy
Okay now I’m off
Bye
Bye
byee
So
I dinally decided to use my controller for Twin fist
And
I have ascended god himself
THE RAIL GUN HAS A SHOTGUN
What does ||boiling blood|| do?
||If you lodge your cast into an enemy and they stick you get bonus damage in that enemy per stack of cast||
It doesn't stack
when you use a cast that lodges a bloodstone into an enemy, whoever that cast hits will then have a bloodstone lodged into them and while it's lodged the enemy will take more damage and it doesn't stack
You either get the buff or you don't
Sorry, I mean the debuff from ||Hades|| and not the buff from the mirror
it also doesn't work with stuff like slicing shot or trippy shot
it makes you take 2x damage
It doubles damage taken in that case
I think it has a similar name. ^^"
basically the same effect lol
Ah, thank you spammy.
also the final boss and anything you unlock when you get there/get past is a spoiler here
I thought using the spoiler blocks would be okay.
It's fine to use spoiler tags, yes
Cool. :)
So with parting shot
Does my cast get a straight 50% damage boost due to shadow presence
Or do I need to have the cast attack them from behind
i'm in asphodel, why does discord say i'm preparing to battle out of tartarus
Aspect of ||Hera|| is really fun holy crap
okay
eh, no clue, maybe server lag seeing as the two programs aren't directly connected?
Probably
okay
when you have 25+ Boons that all do passive damage while your ||father hades tries to lecture you about winning and losing||
yep
JUST how mny voice lines are in this game
about 21k
Enough that you never hear the same one twice
Yup
Murrrrrdeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr x Infinity
21 THOUSAND???
over a third of it just being zag lines, yeah :D
they didnt need to do this but they did
where'd you even get that
its posted on supergiants own twitter
21k / 20 means you get 1000 voice lines for each dollar you spent if the game is just voice lines.
true
i want them to make a graph of all the voicelines
or if that's even possible considering there's over 300k+ words of voiced dialogue
||You can romance Thanatos and Meg??||
Sure can
if you'd like, ||yes. or neither. you're not punished either way||
||can i yes both?||
Yes
:)
;)
';)
Not all of the words are spoken
Zag death by ||orgy||
sorry to interrupt your convo but is there a way to screenshot in Hades without bringing up the bug report.
hmm k. thanks!
they keyboard's regular screenshot key should work as well
tbh i screenshot with the snipping tool because its easier to download
steam > settings > ingame, check your screenshot key
F11 is the in-game screenshot button, too, which saves to Documents\Saved Games\Hades if you don't want to dig through Steam's interface
||In the same room, at the same time, even~||
does that make special dialogue appear or is it the same as a normal confession
Yes dude I got Hades for very first time!!!
It's OK
uhhh best shield in you guys's opinion?
Chaos
Can fated authority spawn special npc encounters?
I’ve done who knows how many runs and Eurydice refuses to spawn.
It’s driving me crazy.
bad luck unfortunately ):
Yeah pretty much.
Depends on your playstyle, but basically, anything you'd want knockback on.
it was easy
What about a Hephaestus DLC where he grants you traps of the gods to use for conventional boss fights
Got the bad call achievement finally
Or fire based boons
I have a question about the house contractor
Fire away
actually your right Fire based boons sound much better
considering he is god of forge
and he has Dea Synergy
Only issue would be in Asphodel, since it's already on fire those could get hard to see
There’s this one thing you can get for 4 diamonds/gems you know the valuable once, and what it gets you at the contractor is the green stuff to buy all sorts of decors in the house for (I’m sorry I’m so bad with names lol) you get this green stuff at every boss you defeat. Is this just a bonus reward or how does this upgrade work?
ph
If it’s too vague I’ll ask the question again after my run I’m not at the house rn
everytime you defeat a boss it grants like 10 at base then every boss after it gives +10
it helps a lot
You're referring to the work order that adds gems after you defeat a boss?
It's worth it, yeah
Yess thank you that
Alright so it’s just a bonus besides for example getting Titan blood for defeating Meg right?
Yeah
Cheers.
Youd get bother the reward and gems
Great for getting gems without going for their rooms
Have way too much gems and nectar/ambrosia
Haha I could use some
I am obsessed with this game.
Currently got like 60 nectar/30 ambrosia/and I think 3k gems because I ran out of use for them
I think a lot of us are
Hahaha it is just so good. I can’t put it down.
I'd be playing more if it wasn't for college work
I’m about to start my first heat five dungeon.
Good luck!
I just had an awesome run with the rail using Poseidon and Zeus with Dio.
zeus special is crazy good with bow 😳
Normal bow?
Good on Chiron too
Double Strike with Zeus special on Chiron is great
Since you're hitting with a lot of arrows at once, that chance only goes up
Same idea applies to Artemis' crits too
wait with chiron is it a bolt for each arrow??
Im checking it out rn lol
Chiron is about the only time I really like Artemis boons. Maybe on the spear too lol
i dont like zeus special on chrion personally due to the internal cooldown
I used to not like Artemis' call but i realized you can use it far more often than some of the other calls at least
I feel like they never land when I need them to, but I also am super impatient
i like demeter a lot on chiron since it scales with % damage AND # of hits as well
especially if you get the chill stack explosion boon
So if you have that call plus some boons to speed up your god gauge its dope
Dio on Chiron isn't bad either
Artemis attack is nice on ||Aspect of lucifer||
||Wait the tunnels in temple of styx close now once you find the sack?||
||If you give it to Ceberus, yes||
Yeah I find it in 2nd most often
2nd or 3rd, yeah
i think i once found it in the first tunnel but im not sure
I did not think that it was possible to find it in the first satyr tunnel.
it's not supposed to be possible, but at this point there's been over a dozen people saying it's happened to them once, so it might just be a rare bug
no but im in asphodel
lets say roots restores 500hp throughout the run. dash will prevent 600dmg throughout the run
I have something to post that's LIKE a victory screen but probably shouldn't go in that channel
youre not making the decision easierrr 
ight fam ill tell you if i win
Do you have death defiances still?
If so, roots won't do anything currently
Dash will help regardless
Oh I can't post images here, but I finally got all the achievements
Congrats!
Ty!
How long did it take you?
Nice, not bad
I GOT TO ||THE HADES FIGHT|| AND I DIED INSTANTLY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I KNOW THE FEELING BRUH
i got so far :(
i have no idea how i'm supposed to kill him
besides power through it ig
nailing down dodging i think
haven't gotten that yet, i always deal as much damage as i can HAHAH I've only won twixe
Okay okay I’m confused
Some guy was talking to me about Hades, and said people think Aphrodite is ugly?
Then I am no longer confused
theres been a couple steam threads in which certain kinds of people have criticised her design for not being feminine enough but thats a small minority
@eager flame wait how have you only beaten it twice
she is literally the goddess of beauty lol
some people have a very specific idea of what beauty is because societal expectations. her design is just fine
How could Aphrodite not look feminine enough that makes no sense
TRUE
People look at too much NSFW stuff and go “yes, this is all that beauty is”
I've seen a few redraws of Aphrodite with removed cheekbones. It seems the artists preferred a smoother face.
she doesn't have mega bazoompers and a dump truck so she isn't hot enough
I don't see those as any point for criticism, but different strokes for different blokes, I guess
So many people have very specific tastes I guess
I simply see pretty lady and go “oooh, pretty”
Persephone is a hottie. No joke.
So is nyx.
So is Aphrodite.
They’re all beautiful.
milves across the board
They can all step on me
It’s like saying you have to choose between cake or pie. They’re both amazing. Let’s acknowledge it.
Yes
I like Aphrodite's design, I think it fits without going overboard.
its either because i made a bunch of questionable decisions at the start of the game or because i simply suck st the game HAHAHA
I've attempted escaping 73 times 
I beat the game one time, but then crashed because I tried to tab after taking a screenshot
😔
oooooo that sucks
Haven’t played since
its frustrating because I do fairly well until the final boss and sometimes theseus
rarely the poison
The poison sucks
I had fallen a bit into the trap of doing the same thing every run
However, the Athena boon that helps against traps does help on the poison
i'm trying to get better at dodging and making more careful decisions because i often just charge at the enemies full force
Me
What weapons do you prefer?
yeah try not to do that
@eager flame have you tried making a build around athena boons
like zag fists with athena attack, artemis special, athena dash?
throw in ares for damage buffs?
Athena call too
i dont have any strategies but i'll keep it in mind 😳
ah yeah athena call
i almost won last time with the sword and athena call
i have no real preference but i prefer close range, so the bow and the gun are kinda eh for me
Sword is tough. It was my last weapon I managed to use for an escape. And even then it was a cast build.
Fun fact, since the greater call is the normal amount times 6, if you buff the call to last .5 seconds more, the greater call will be 3 seconds longer
Ah, I prefer the bow personally, but I find I do better with more range.
i think i prefer the spear/sword although ive only beaten ||hades|| with the shield and twin fists
I did not spell that right
Achilles spear might help
i'll try that, thanks!
00:00 Intro
02:04 #1 Poseidon Sword + Electric Shot
04:10 #2 Guan Yu + Deadly Flourish
06:38 #3 Chaos Shield + Ares Special
09:20 #4 Chiron Bow + Deadly Flourish
11:51 #5 Zagreus Fist + Athena Attack
14:16 #6 Eris Rail + Zeus Attack
16:48 Outro
Thanks for all of the support friends! This video took more time and effort than I expected, I hope y...
magnet fists are so op
Talos fists is amazing
also death defiance >>> stubborn defiance imo
yeah totally
check that video alex
Even if you forget to use attack and just use the special, Talos is good
i will! thank you for sharing 
np
still have to beat the final boss with stubborn defiance for the achievement
I actually did that within two tries
I like stubborn defiance because it means
I switched to just the green side of the mirror and went for it
in my current run i'm about to face theseus with chiron bow
died the first time on the hydra cause of a chaos curse, and then did it the next time
tried that, switched back to normal death defiance and won, so it's just that one perk left
good advice
I had a busted build tbh, ares dash is insane when buffed
Combine that with triple jab on the spear and I dash attacked the bosses to death
Demeter shows up: i sleep
Rare Crop: 👀
||I maxed out Hades relationship meter and now I have a "bond". Does this do anything?||
Just gives you a nice little chibi badge on the keepsake
^
FIRST CHIBI ACQUIRED
Which one?
Athena
Cute, thanks. ^^
man it's really hard to see the athena chibi in emoji reaction form
Athena, nice
i remember one of my first deaths because it was kinda funny,, i had just met chaos and I didn't know what his boons did so I kinda just picked whichever and it was the one that took 4 hp per attack... needless to say with 50 hp and that effect, I died quickly hah
Thats tough
i didn't go into chaos's realm for a hot while until i realized his boons also had some less harmful effects hah
now me and chaos are best buds
I take his boons whenever I can tbh, unless it's too close to a boss for my liking. I don't enjoy fighting one with a curse on
ah yeah totally
Artemis then Ceberus
Why do fictional characters have to be cuter than the people I know. 😔
Zeus special
oooo
Because Jen didn't design the people you know? xD
i want jen to design me
Maybe I’ll just commission Jen to design some real people for me
HAHAHAH for real
Wonder how much she charges
let me check her twitter
who?
jen is the designer and art director of hades
Ye
there isn't any info about commissions on her twt 
I expect she's very in demand, given her talent.
^^^^
yeah!
Yeah, but looking at her twitter, she also does other work. There's a board game she's done the art for.
Oh yea. Thanks for recommending ||tight deadline|| as a first ||HEAT||
She might be willing to do commission work but just doesn’t advertise it, since she works full time
Cleared it no problem with the bow
But who knows
I got all this titan blood but I kinda dont know if I should save it until I unlock the hidden aspects
- What aspects did some of u guys invest into early on?
I figure if I keep playing I'll max them all out regardless
Eris is a blast. Pun intended.
I went for Chrion and Chaos, decided Chaos needed upgrading, and then bought Talos and Zeus next
Achilles is also a good pick
Nice thx. Those look good too
Really I suppose they can all be good. The game seems very balanced
I just gotta learn how to build around them
my prefered aspects are nemesis for the blade, achilles for spear, chiron for the bow (though ive heard hera is really good too), talos for the twin fists, and eris for gun
i barely use my casts so i dont know much about the hera bow
does it automatically fire the casts
||is the gun good and i just gotta get used to it or is it just bad||
It's my fave weapon
You hit b to load the cast, then it fires with your next shot
It’s like hitting with both at once, great for high burst damage
ahhh i see
Every weapon can be good, I’d keep trying it till you find a build you enjoy
it just feels so underpowered
yeah exactly
i'm using eris but i dislike reloading sm
also i don't know why but the special sometimes changes place from where I want it to land randomly?
like i aim it and fire but midfire it goes to a different place
i have no control over it lmao so i just kinda deal with it
Probably bouncing off a wall or pillar.
yeah it's that
ah really? that explains things
it has the same physics as dionysus cast
i miss dionysus... this game occupies my headspace 60% of the time atm
Preferred Aspects: Poseidon, Achilies, Chaos, Hera, Zag Fists, Eris
oh i completely forgot about the shield
shield is my favorite
yeah its really powerful and really to use
but it gets kinda boring for me so i prefer the spear
i use zeus's aspect for the shield but i used chaos for a long time
quick q that might be kidna dumb
what do people mean theyre saying "legendary (aspect) run"
isn't it the rarity of the aspect/how much you've upgraded it?
not sure though i'm probably completely wrong
||The gun and the bow are the only weapons I’m good with||
Those are the 2 weapons I never use. 😮
Thanks a lot man
Also am I suppose to establish a role in this server or is it not necessary
My fave towards the beginning was the bow, though my fave now is the gun.
I like the bow and the shield. But the spear was mad fun my last successful run with it
I like most of the weapons though. I'm probably not as good with the Spear as others. xD
I had a couple hammers so I was jabbing with 3 spears and longer range
But my love of Achilles means I must master it.
I never use the charge with the spear
I think there is a hammer upgrade that wipes it from the run and gives u consecutive jabs
Polar opposites..
me too hah
But I grab whatever has 20% darkness
oh my, i don't like the bow BECAUSE it makes the boss fights more chill
I like the bow because I play enter the gungeon
check pins in #bot-commands
Nuff said
mood... my love for achilles makes me like the spear and patroclus helps me get thru elysium even if i don't see him
I just... neeeeeeded to reunite them so bad. And I gotta make Achilles proud with my battle prowess. Can't let my ~~better dad ~~teacher down.
Thanks!
"hey did you know there's a whole aspect of this spear named after you, Mr. Achilles sir? What a coincidence!"
"um... sure, kid."
I am beginning to realize that I am really bad with the spear.
I relate
I usually cannot kill things effectively enough.
Just dash strike and jab
Forget the charge attack lol
And apply doom or something to the throw if u want
But a couple of my fastest runs are with the spear so far but I would give credit to the daedalus hammers making it more efficient
I rarely use the special because it is even slower than the regular attack.
My typical approach is dash-striking.
I do know it's a good weapon. I am just bad with it.
My fastest clear is 23 minutes with the gloves.
Yea I only use it on bosses if it has something like doom but in chambers it sucks imo
achilles special is fun to use, so is the hidden spear
The charge attack also feels impractical. But I'm also very new. I have not found very many builds
One of the aspects applies a buff if you use the charged attack.
Oh nice
It's good to use if you're waiting for enemies to spaw.
Just sort of stand in the middle and release.
I could see myself using it if it had a purpose like that
Then jab jab stab your way through them.
hades spear is very fun to spin, especially with its increased range
if you get the hammer that increases its range even more its even more fun
I love the work they put in and the balancing. Its clear to see how different ppl have all different preferences though I'm sure they is some sort of META for the record ||heats|| and such
The sword I have the hardest time finishing a run but tbh I have thr most fun and I'm usually shaking when I'm fighting ||hades||
Yeah, I also find builds specific to weapons helpful as well.
hades?
You can cross over the save file too I believe
My thumbs get sore on the switch
So I should go and move it to my pc lol
I'm sorry if this is off topic but any of u guys play enter the gungeon?
haven't tried it on the switch but playing on my laptop is really easy to me!
my wrist just sometimes gets sore bc of how i hold my mouse but
also no idk what that game is
Out of the roguelite I've played, that use to be my favorite but this one is way better imo
Its another roguelite bullet hell kinda game
Less forgiving I would say but addicting enough to keep u hooked
Never really like EtG personally
My favourite roguelike will always be EtG
This game has such an amazing story ontop of smooth gameplay that I cant get enough
: )
i like etg but i like hades more
I never finished the ammonomicon @runic lintel
!!!
its less of a roguelike than etg but i like the sense of progression you get with each death in this game
Xbox but yea
Good
I had all the cheevos
probably why i dont like many roguelik/tes
Agree
Dead cells kicked my butt
I made it to boss cell 3 if u are familiar with that one
But that's when I hit a wall and stopped
I havnt played any other games from supergiant btw
Any u guys reccomend?
Bastion I've heard about
Looks like a good time
try #supergiant-games for that maybe haha
Ah no kidding my bad
Children of morta Is a roguelite too I guess
It is
Also credit for a great story but not as good as hades
Maybe in its own way
That game had a certain charm to it that made me happy when I played it
Yea it wasn't very long. They did add a ng+ to it later on but I never tried it
Same
I dont think anything was added to the story
Nah just makes the game harder
If I read that there was, I'm sure I would've gone for it
Yea
I turned god mode on after my first couple clears and now I dont wanna turn it off lol
The cushion is really nice
But maybe I should next run and see if I can try to clear a run or if I got complacent
What does god mode do?
That's neat!
U can toggle it off anytime. But if u toggle it back on I dont think it resets back to 20%
You'll find very soon that you won't need it. ^^
My last run I finished I didnt use a single death defiance so I would like to think I'm improving
But I'll see. I'm gonna toggle it off and see if I have gotten better
The spear
Nice. I think my first victory was with the fists.
I had a bunch of different olympians so I got the mirror bonus. The butterflies 2% bonus dmg for each chamber cleared wo dmg
And some nice buffs from the hammer
I felt like ||hades||died faster than ever that run
My first was the shield
Hahaha when I first used the gloves for my victory run I was so nervous
I was pretty sure that I would die before Elysium. That area was also just the one I struggled with the most
I think if I got the dash that can deflect, I feel a little better with the gloves
but I quite literally melted the Elysium boss fight and went into ||Hades|| with three death defies.
Gloves with any damage inducing dash is good
I love leaving elysium with all death defiance
I think that run I had a dash that inflicted weak
Losing one to poison suxks
I always try to save gold incase I can buy a death defiance from the purple thing
I thought hangover was so good at first. That and chain lightning
I havnt used either in a while though
Chain lightning is great if you can get jolted
It's a status that causes damage when your foes try to attack
great against bosses
Oh I've gotten jolted before. I actually took a while to get it though
Was the last one I needed for that prohpecy
I cant recall exactly but I am pretty sure that's how I got my win with the gloves
I'll check the archives lol
quick question- ambrosia delight or pom porridge?
refreshing nectar
between those two i'd get ambrosia because rarity is always better than single levels
I almost always pick ambrosia
and between ambrosia and nectar?
nectar
depends on the run rly but i always go for the nectar
you need it for the friends
no i mean
did you clear your run yet btw?
Eurydice
with any of those builds?
KJADHKAJDH ambrosia delight or refreshing nectar
ambrosia is very rng dependent tbh and i dont like it
but if there's a certain boon you want its rarity to upgrade, go pick the ambrosia
otherwise i'd gravitate towards the nectar
oh turns out i was in the middle of a bow run in ASPHODEL not theseus and i'm kinda sucking rn so i'll try the builds next run! :)
keep in mind you're putting your faith fully in the fates for this
hmm true
I mean
That one got me to a run with 5 to 6 heroic boons
It can be a really good one
Ofc ||dementer|| had something to do but
The ambrosia helped a lot
i'll go with nectar for this one since death is likely unless patroclus appears
cross your fingers for patty
once got him in clutch during a ||21-heat run|| on the final room in elysium with no DDs left
i won that because of him
gods bless patroclus
died to lernie. genuinely embarrassing HAHAHA
i will!
also should i buy the bust of the old man or the portrait of the exalted hero
most important decision in this game
¯_(ツ)_/¯
wait actually important now- privileged status or family favorite?
ah yeah
They talk like this ambrosia or nectar is alcoholic. Or is it cause it's just a treat to have in hell
It's like expensive candy
Ambrosia is literally the food of the gods. Enjoyed on Mount Olympus mainly, it is thought to have been inspired by honey or mead.
Yeah
iirc it’s also supposed to make someone feel warm and happy
Wow. That I didnt know and it just puts me into perspective how much thought they put into the game
alright trying the poseidon sword build
how do you get the athena dd glitch
is it just like sd where you have to lose all of your dd's first
@eager flame I like to run it with artemis attack, poseidon dash and zeus cast
then ares for passives
aphrodite also works
crush shot and exit wounds is all you'll need
oh i'm gonna try the one in the video akjdhajds
fair enough
yes its good in tartarus
For the pact of punishment with tight deadline , in the ||temple of Styx||, do you get 9 min to finish the entire region AND ||beat hades|| or do you get 9 min for each
9 mins for region + bossfight

Presumably you've seen credits already, GringoGuy, so you just need to ||keep doing runs, talking to Persephone, and forging bonds with all the gods. Persephone should give you a prophecy to fulfill that outlines the requirements||
ok sigh this sword build thing isn't working out 😔
if you're not used to sword it's pretty hard
ah i've gotten to ||hades|| with the sword a lot of times ASDHAKSD maybe it's bc i'm not used to casting
i've been using nemesis sword for a while
hmm it works well in mob fights but i really got my ass beat by alecto
@eager flame just spam the cast
just go zap zap zap
get chaos boons to buff cast
dont really use your special other than to dislodge
ahhh okay
Lightning Rod looks really good
lightning rod is pretty epic
does that help
just got 49/49 achievements :')
Pog
got exit wounds! hoping i'll get past lernie this time HASDHKJASD
it's definitely been a productive run though, completed two prophecies
well
we'll get them next time
AHAHAH
Rip
im about to fight lernie i will avenge u
go get them !
"my only regret is not learning how to dodge spears. cause of death: impalement"
ASJDHKJAHDSA
The aphrodite one is even better lol
how do i change the portrait in the lounge
Just completed a Hades run in 20 minutes for the firs time!!!
Nice
That is the fastest that I have ever done it. XD
Should I be full clearing styx before fighting ||Hades||?
No
It's employee of the day not a poster
It changes every run
Depends on a few things
also paper why are you telegram
SHUT UP
Telegram
i designed my pfp before telegram ok :(((
its a paper plane
I didnt know about their existence
Ok so don't fc got it
its not that hard
nah you can, depends on how good the rewards are and how good is your build
And if you're going for a speedrun
It's fairly good and the elite doors would give me poseidon, zeus and and pom
I don't care about speedrunning
I just want to beat the game
No I get to ||Hades|| every run
Oh ok then
So, Nintendo sent me an email for a survey regarding a recent purchase I’ve made on my Switch. The most recent purchase I’ve made was a racing game on sale, so I was responding to the survey with that racing game in mind. Later on when I did read the email, I realized that they actually meant it for the Hades purchase I’ve made weeks before...
ngl pom is not that great of a door
depends, poms can be insane when you have a lvl 1 aphro attack
Especially big poms, that is
yeah but thats late to get a level 1 aphro
when you are already at styx
i shouldve had it early into the run
Beyond lvl 4-5 main attack/special boons, poms get meh
I'm just going to try to fight him again, I've got a solid build and 4 dd's
I think I can win
take athena to cheese
Try to dodge his attacks, and not to get too greedy
if you really just wanna win
Patience is key
I have Poseidon call
smacks table with block of cheese 🧀
He telegraphs all his attacks, learn the telegraphs and dodge before he attacks
I'll do my best
Also, you can dodge through em
Yeah
So if he goes for the spear thrust, you can just dodge through him
I just need to get the timing down
Going into ||second phase|| with all 4 dd's
Looking good
I DID IT
Is there a doc that goes into excruciating detail about how damages are calculated? I'm specifically looking for the answers to these questions:
- do dash-strikes benefit from boons that boost Attack?
- For Aspect of Hestia (rail with empowered shot after manual reload) what is factored into the final damage of that bolt?
- If you fire Hestia it at the end of a dash does it benefit from Artemis' dash strike bonus?
- Do dash strikes in general benefit from both attack bonuses and artemis' dash strike boon?
- If you get the "shotgun" hammer upgrade on Hestia, does the purple empowered shot get the empowerment, or the first shotgun blast, and is the base damage of the empowered shot upped to the shotgun's 40 or does it keep calculating based on the normal base damage?
i can answer 1 and 4
1.no
4.dash strikes only benefit from dash strike bonuses, not attack bonuses
yeah it needs to specifically say that it'll boost dash strike
and the shotgun upgrade for hestia doesnt work
the empowered shot is a normal bullet
the rest are shotgun blasts
also, it seems like if you give up and retry the RNG stays the same as long as you make the same decisions. Do we know exactly what player decisions can influence your options the next time there is a choice?I get the sense the list includes:
- Which boon you choose from a god or hammer
- Every time you use Fated Authority or Fated Persuasion
- Whether you win/lose Erebus challenges and Thanatos duels
thanks, that explains my underwhelming numbers in my last run
With aspect of Hera, all that's happening is that it's like you are firing off all the casts at once, at the point where the arrow lands, right? There's no multiplicative effect between the arrow damage itself and the cast damage?
PepeLaugh
huh? they absolutely do
- Yes
- Damage is calculated normally, but that one shot has 150 base damage
- Yes
- Yes
- The empowered shot fires normally, then the remainder of your shots are shotgun blasts
um no
then why does chaos offer dash strike and attack boons?
for boons a dash strike is a kind of attack
hammers generally work differently for whatever reason, but for boons they absolutely stack
chaos also offers +backstab damage, and it stacks with +attack so there’s no reason +dash strike shouldn’t
weapons like swords and bows (where you’re always dash attacking) would be used massively differently if a dash attack was not a kind of attack
for the purposes of boons
hammers are a bit weirder
What ||condition|| should I use
this is called routing, and i’m not an expert on it but i can add a couple of things:
- number of casts/calls/summons after picking up your boon
- urns broken in the room
The casts and the arrow are separate sources of damage that are calculated normally, they just happen at the same time
you will need to be more specific than that bud
The benefit of Hera is one part the instantaneous cast activation (really good for Trippy Shot) one part the range (really good for Crush Shot) and one part the reduced bloodstone drop time
||I just unlocked the Pact and I don't know which is the easiest for one heat||
try ||EM1|| or ||TD1|| to start
Ok
- Yes. Dash strike is a sub category of attack. Square and rectangle.
- It's just a normal attack with 150 base damage. So treat it like a normal attack.
- Yes. Hunter Dash is highly recommended on Hestia, in fact.
- Yes.
- Spreadfire works on Hestia at close range. So you have an empower shot with longer range than the blast. If you are at point blank, your enemies get hit by both the shotgun blast and the empowered shot. If you are further away, your enemies get hit only by the empowered shot.
I was doing so well with the spear until I lost three death defies to the Elysium champions
git gud :3
huh there’s still a shotgun blast on the first hestia shot?
There is always one.