#h1-discussion

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manic bobcat
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you are right lol

wispy flax
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Interestingly enough, because of the good profit margins, vinyl is a great way to support your favorite artists or game devs, because a lot of the money goes straight to them rather than paying for manufacturing or labor costs, or in the case of concerts, going mostly to the venue and their staff.

manic bobcat
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SGG do be taking lessons from Ninty

wispy flax
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They are also very cool gifts and make great collectibles/art displays. Id be pretty happy if someone gifted me some vinyl for stuff I liked.

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Oops didnt mean to actually ping blobsweats

lyric wharf
loud lintel
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is Dio cast the best one to pair with Hera bow?

hushed pumice
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Nope, but it's pretty good

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Crush is usually best

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But I had a crazy run with deflect and the Zeus Duo

loud lintel
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Crush sticks it into enemies right?

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Havent fully leveled it yet so Dio might be better for me

frank creek
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😛

ebon grove
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it might be the toughest battle in the game

frank creek
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yeah its just that its seems to drag on, its mostly endurance

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dash like a mad man, then again thats every boss encounter

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dash like crazy, pray you don't get hit

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not even sure its skill vs. mostly trying to power up and hope for luck

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eventually eventually

lyric wharf
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@frank creek ||Hades|| fight is a spoiler.

narrow hemlock
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beat to it squirtdevious

frank creek
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sorry

manic bobcat
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You'd better be

narrow hemlock
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also general reminder not to evade the swear filter please friendly

lyric wharf
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I did a run with Hermes keepsake and I had 25.2% with it at the end.

manic bobcat
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Imagine if small styx chambers increase stack

ebon grove
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well of course it is skill, but that skill takes hundreds of hours to develop

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i played around 120 and i barely understand the game

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i am amazed at speedrunners and high heat players

manic bobcat
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Just be fast bro

frank creek
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dash is your friend

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if you don't have one finger rocking back between attack and dash your lost

ebon grove
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sure, but there's way more to it than just dash

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you need a good understanding of all weapons, forges, boons, and how the enemies move, and the optimal way to deal the most damage

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i am still a complete newbie in this aspect

loud lintel
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i disagree with boss fights being dash spam

ebon grove
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that's why i think it takes hundreds of hours to master

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i thought i was good when i finished the run first time, boy i was so wrong

loud lintel
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disregarding shaping your run with boon choices and such, bosses have telegraphed attacks with a good window for you to react

frank creek
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yeah i know dash haphazardly is pretty foolish what with traps and trying to avoid magma. in asphodel with the small masses of land you need to be careful you don't land in the wrong spot

lyric wharf
lyric wharf
ebon grove
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i was theorizing a 100% dodge run to kinda steal a high heat win but you need to activate the plume every room so idk if i can do that on high heat

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yeah, it's fine it takes you that long

lyric wharf
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Just keep playing, watch videos guides and ask questions if needed.

ebon grove
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and i am glad you can complete the steam achievements on a low level play too

minor bane
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Which one is harder to go against in a trial of the gods Zeus or Demeter?

ebon grove
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i think demeter is more annoying

lyric wharf
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I'd say Demeter as its more static.

ebon grove
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depends how much space to move you had

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in a small chamber demeter will dent you, but in a big one it's safe

loud lintel
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demeter can be annoying against ranged enemies when youre melee

manic bobcat
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Yeah don't piss off Demeter imo

lyric wharf
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It also depends on you, some players may have an easier time with some than others.

minor bane
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Hmm

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I've never dealt with Demeter before but I've dealt with Zeus and I've never died to it

loud lintel
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personally i find athena to be the easiest trial

lyric wharf
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Easiest but can be the longest too.

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Which doesn't help if you run with ||TD.||

hushed schooner
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i mean

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i think you take the least damage in it

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depending on the enemies

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they don't get any damage boosts or anything to help them deal damage and control you

frank creek
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probably a foolish q depending on player skill set etc but is there an average number of attempts before most players beat u know who

wispy flax
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I have more clears with Rail than any other weapon

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Im not very proud of myself

ebon grove
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it took me 36 attempts although i took my time

manic bobcat
hushed schooner
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i have most clears in shield

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blame the hidden aspects

wispy flax
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Cause thats 2 clears and both have been with Rail

frank creek
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no clears yet. sword seems useless using shield now but not big on it either. Fav has got to be the spear for its reach and speed. rail seems kind of sluggish but love grenades from a distant especially with 400 damage but need to be careful u don't hurt yourself with it

wispy flax
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I may have messed up some dialogue as well
||After clearing the 1st time, I gifted Hades some nectar rather than interacting with him so my dialogue from my 1st clear is still in the queue after having just done my 2nd clear||

ebon grove
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my most clears are with firsts and rail, and zeus shield has to be one of my favorite weapons because it's so safe and does so much damage

loud lintel
waxen juniper
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I got the scintillating wine dream with the Zeus legendary!

mint forum
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Niceee

ebon grove
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dream?

waxen juniper
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Easy game!

waxen juniper
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And that with the zeus legendary is just ridiculously good

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I also had double strike. This was a very lucky run

mint forum
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Damn

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Sounds like the dream

waxen juniper
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It sure was. The funny thing is I was trying to do something completely different.
I just wanted to do deflect on zeus shield. But then... that happened 😆

torpid mango
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Is the bow best for just starting out?

manic bobcat
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Entirely depends on you

waxen juniper
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Depends how comfortable you are with it

ebon grove
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tell me you had the poseidon blade

waxen juniper
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I found it's the easiest weapon for me, but that can mean something entirely for you

manic bobcat
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I have seen each aspect being called best for beginners

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Like everyone of them on this server

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So just pick one and go

torpid mango
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Ok gotcha

ebon grove
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i think bow is the hardest for beginners unless your plan is to spam special

oak mason
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Hey yall does anyone have tips for beating theseus n asterius 😦

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i cant for the love of god kill em without god mode on

ebon grove
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try taking acorn for that fight

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do you have companions?

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also getting extra dashes from hermes is pretty crucial for that fight

manic bobcat
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+1 to using Acorn

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It's good even if it sounds underwhelming.

oak mason
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whoops

mint forum
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You know know what I want

oak mason
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i usually take acorn, stubborn defiances and exagryph tbh

mint forum
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I want a dlc

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Called ||Shcelemus chronicals||

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Thst like follows the story of ||skelly in his real life||

ebon grove
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I want a game in which zagreus fights his way towards the top of mount olympus

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which is basically the same thing but more montainy

wispy flax
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Is the self-damage Rail special upgrade marker supposed to shift after the marker has been placed?

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I also noticed an odd bit of inflicted damage when I was outside the marked AoE

mint forum
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Its because the game is isometric

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Like league

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So hit boxes can often seem broken

wispy flax
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So its more of a perspective issue for the second one, I get that

mint forum
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Yea

wispy flax
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But I have cases where the AoE gets placed and then it suddenly shifts to my current location

mint forum
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OOO

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Thays probably

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Because it hit a wall

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Or a tall pillar

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Cause it bounces off

ebon grove
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yeah

wispy flax
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Out in the middle of the open though? thonkingintensifies

ebon grove
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will happen a lot in the dungeons

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how low is the ceiling? 😄

wispy flax
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Hmm I guess Ill have to do more testing cause it intrigues me

mint forum
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Was it 100% open?

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Might be a visual thing or a flick thing

wispy flax
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Yeah Ill check this time. I was too busy trying to avoid my own AoE to notice haha.

mint forum
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imagine using hazard bomb

wispy flax
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I needed it for a prophecy mate aPES_Sob

mint forum
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Rip

wispy flax
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Also I still havent been able to get ||Aspect of Lucifer|| for rail yet, big sad

mint forum
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Ripp

wispy flax
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Should I force Zeus spawns in order to get him to give me the dialogue?

mint forum
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Take Zeus signet

wispy flax
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Thisll be the 2nd time I try cause he avoided the dialogue last time GES_Think

waxen juniper
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Question: does storm lightning work with phalanx lightning?

mint forum
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I think so

lyric wharf
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I just tried a Crush Shot build with Hera bow, I really liked it.

waxen juniper
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Crush shot with Hera bow is easy game :p

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Crush shot in general is super good

lyric wharf
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I still prefer Trippy Shot/Ice Wine for the animation but Crush Shot is definitely better

ebon grove
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i wonder how many unique dialogues exist in hades. i cannot even put it in numbers. 5 digits? 6?

narrow hemlock
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20k lines of dialogue, 300k words

willow token
waxen juniper
willow token
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Not disagreeing with you.. just wondering if I've misjudged it

trail plover
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I love the dialogue in the game!

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The voice acting is also brilliant. I always get a kick out of Hermes and Dio.

manic bobcat
trail plover
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I really wish the game would tell me how many jars I've broken. XD

severe smelt
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I'm impressed Charon got 120 woth of harrrrghs

willow token
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tis and charon having over 100 lines each is hilarious

trail plover
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I smash so many things.

willow token
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it wouldn't surprise me if some expensive cosmetic item from the contractor included jar breaking stats

trail plover
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I haven't seen one.

narrow hemlock
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there is not one 😅

fierce phoenix
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This game brings back some bad habits of breaking all the jars I can from Zelda days

rich acorn
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||Ive escaped like 7 times now already but Zagreus's death on the surface always makes me sad||

swift violet
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Just unlocked talos fists and its the most fun ive had in a while

waxen juniper
willow token
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the fists in general are a lot of fun when you realize you can just hold down attack and tap dash

swift violet
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yeah

rich acorn
swift violet
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I used to suck at them but got a pretty run going so far

waxen juniper
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The other one would've been amazing, but I took a deadly chaos boon that ended the run early

magic lark
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Sooo I think i found a bug that just killed me through DD?

swift violet
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Is there any way to unlock the charon fight?

wispy flax
rich acorn
wispy flax
swift violet
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wdym

waxen juniper
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If you had the dialogue, then you had the titan blood. One must happen before the other

swift violet
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Ok so theres nothing you need to do before that right>

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?

waxen juniper
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So that means you have not had the dialogue

rich acorn
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I dont know but one time i saw the money there and took it. Worst mistake of my life.

swift violet
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Also I got my ||guan yu|| aspect and ||arthur|| aspect first try

magic lark
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I was in TotG between DIO and Poseidon, picked poseidon, so dio was dropping poison puddles, i was very low on health, and right as i killed the last enemy, i dashed into a puddle and it ended my run, despite me having 2 DDs, just thought id post it somewhere here because i cant find any info on it online

swift violet
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idk how

willow token
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Two designated drivers just isn't enough for a Dionysus party

rich acorn
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How do you unlock the hidden aspects ?(Without spoiling too much)

swift violet
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Invest 5 titan blood into the spear and then talk to achilles

wispy flax
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Let me list all the aspects Ive acquired: 2 Sword aspects, 3 Spear aspects, 1 Shield aspect, 2 bow aspects, 1 Fist aspect, 1 Rail aspect

willow token
swift violet
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Thats how you get the first one

wispy flax
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So do I ||have to toss more Blood into Spear|| or am I missing something?

swift violet
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Idk

rich acorn
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Yeah good cause I have a ton of titan blood that needs spending

swift violet
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5 should be enough

wispy flax
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I just assumed that ||5 blood in any of the weapons so long as its not Zag aspect should do it||

swift violet
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Nope it has to be spear first

wispy flax
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Ah big fat RIP

swift violet
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oof

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I would suggest the achilles spear

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Its a lot of fun to use

rich acorn
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The achilles spear is the GOAT weapon

wispy flax
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Ye facts, I should have 5 invested into it now seeing as I just unlocked all Spear aspects

swift violet
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I got lighting rod with achilles and I just kinda stood behind the pillars in the final boss fight and just watched their health go down

wispy flax
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||Guan is 3||, the other 2 are 2 ea. so thats 7 quicc mafs

swift violet
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I put 3 in achilles and 2 in zag

magic lark
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or is it invest 5 blood into spear upgrades?

rich acorn
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I have 19 blood 🤦‍♂️ smh I need to spend

swift violet
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lmao i have 0

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I spend it as soon as I got

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The max titan blood ive ever had was 13 and that was because I traded all my ambrosia for it

swift violet
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It can be upgrades if you want

wispy flax
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OK so now Im gonna try and force the dialogue and end run early

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Nope blobnotlikethis

magic lark
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goootcha

wispy flax
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"Exagryph: ||Aspect of Lucifer||. Unlock the ||Aspect of Guan Yu||, then invest at least 5 Titan Bloods into any Rail aspects. Zeus should tell you more in a conversation soon after that."

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Wow OK then, so Im even more of a goof than I thought. Or, my luck with the proper dialogue is atrocious.

narrow hemlock
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you need him to have previous commented on it. so ||you need to use the rail and have zeus say something about it, and then after that you can use any weapon. || but the way dialogue works, it's not immediately reactive. while certain things have more priority, it doesn't always work that way, and the game mostly just checks that you've hit x requirements and adds dialogue to your available "pool" of convo that can come up

wispy flax
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So one way or another Im just really unlucky with the dialogue pool, either that or I got the dialogue early and never realized, and failed to get another requirement for the aspect.

narrow hemlock
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one of those two, yeah

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it's hard to say when you can't check back through dialogue you've seen

wispy flax
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Yep, definitely a pain. Ill survive.

median jay
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can we post memes here? i made one i'm kinda proud of but i'm not sure where to put it haha

prisma wind
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Hades-related memes can go in #fan-works as long as no one is spamming them (and as long as they fall within the server's content guidelines)

median jay
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ah okay, thank you! it has minor em3 spoilers (||thesus' chariot||) should i spoiler it? or leave it as is

narrow hemlock
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spoilers allowed in fan works :) feel free to spoiler tag if you'd like but you don't have to

wispy flax
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I finally got the dialogue GES_BreathFire

median jay
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okay cool :)

mint forum
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guys

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the most important question

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which ||theme is the best?||

manic bobcat
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The ||5000 gems|| one

waxen juniper
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I really like the infernal theme

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It honestly looks like waterfalls made of rootbeer

narrow hemlock
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i like the ||chaos one...||

prisma wind
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Same, tatz

waxen juniper
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It's also the one that feels like it takes the most work

narrow hemlock
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well yes. but i like it because it appeals to me more on an aesthetic level than the others do. ethereal, decadent...

manic bobcat
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I like Deathly because it's closest to stock

upper heron
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How do I get the Fated List achievement ||Customer Loyalty|| to appear? It's the last one I need to complete the fated list.

waxen juniper
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Sounds like a ||charon fight||, but I don't recall

prisma wind
upper heron
waxen juniper
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Did you win?

upper heron
waxen juniper
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🤔

manic bobcat
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In a row?

prisma wind
waxen juniper
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Ah that's right. It starts with a Hermes dialogue chain

upper heron
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I already completed ||A Friendly Wager|| and talked to Hermes

wispy flax
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Alright, thats it. Im baffled.

upper heron
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||Customer Loyalty|| is the one where you have to buy all items from Well of Charon.

wispy flax
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I got the ||Lucifer|| aspect dialogue, died, got back to the House, and still cant unlock it.

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Befuddled and betwixt. GES_Think

waxen juniper
waxen juniper
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Yeah, my bad

upper heron
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I've been running stygian soul xD

waxen juniper
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I imagine you may be missing that and the ||companion|| one if you don't have any yet

prisma wind
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If it's the only prophecy you don't have available to complete, it sounds like a bug as you seem fairly far into the game for it to not have appeared. I would send an f10 bug report in-game (if you're on PC) and in the report ask for a QA person to check your save to see what is preventing it from appearing. You are saying it's not appearing at all, right, not that you just haven't completed it?

upper heron
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not appearing at all

prisma wind
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Definitely send a report then

upper heron
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alright

torpid mango
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Do you have to select boons manually?

prisma wind
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Not sure I follow

torpid mango
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Or are they automatically equipped

prisma wind
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Ah. Boons automatically apply their effects

torpid mango
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Ty

manic bobcat
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they are automatically equipped, the selector thing when you open the boon menu is for show

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they have no gameplay effect.

torpid mango
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So if u die after Meg it restarts the campaign

manic bobcat
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yeah, though you do keep some upgrades

torpid mango
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Oh ok

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First thing to upgrade should be mirror?

maiden urchin
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Yes

manic bobcat
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yeah, i would recommend that

torpid mango
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What weapon is best at the moment then?

brisk trail
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upgrade mirror and buy some new weapon, yes

manic bobcat
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all of them are good. the game had 2 years in Early Access so weapon balance is quite good.

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just pick one you like/are comfortable with.

sour sky
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Basic sword is meh

torpid mango
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How do u upgrade them? Or can u?

brisk trail
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for weapon, you should try them all to see what works best with your playstyle

sour sky
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Despite that, my first winning run was with the sword completely by accident

manic bobcat
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you can, though that's a bit later into the game

torpid mango
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Bow seems good

sour sky
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Bow is good

manic bobcat
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I would say just try to find what you like and go as far as you can

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it will make sense in the end.

sour sky
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Sword dps is kinda meh

prisma wind
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I'd spend some time just exploring the game, you'll get a feel for everything you're asking about pretty soon

torpid mango
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Ok ty peeps

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What’s giving nectar actually do?

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Last question

manic bobcat
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the first nectar you gift to a character, they will return something called keepsake

torpid mango
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Ok

manic bobcat
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each keepsake has a different effect.

torpid mango
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Should I be invested them into one particular one?

brisk trail
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giving a bit of nectar to everybody is better, imo.

maiden urchin
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cerberus keepsake is good early

torpid mango
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Ok

maiden urchin
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until you have Thick Skin on mirror

torpid mango
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Haven’t gotten it yet. How many unlocks?

maiden urchin
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it’s on the 3rd panel

torpid mango
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Sweet almost there

maiden urchin
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gives you +50 hp

torpid mango
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God I need that

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I wish healing was easier

inland heath
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I was told that there was a way to track how many fish you've pulled in the lounge but I don't see it

brisk trail
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you have to unlock it at the house contractor first

inland heath
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Ah

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Is it the aquarium?

brisk trail
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yes

inland heath
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Gotcha. Thanks

chilly orchid
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If a swap off of a keepsake that gives me stats, like Hermes' keepsake, does that take away the stats I gain throughout the run as well, or do they stay?

prisma wind
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They go away. Plume and Pierced Butterfly are "all-in" type keepsakes

chilly orchid
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thanks

hasty nest
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hey can you have doom from ares and divine strike from athena for example?

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bcs arent they both like attack boons so u can only have 1 of them not both? idk

winter harbor
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You can put deflect or doom on special

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It even enables merciful end, which speedrunners like, because it makes doom faster

hasty nest
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yes on special

winter harbor
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You can’t put things in the same core slot

hasty nest
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so you cant have strike boon and doom on attack

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owh

brisk trail
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My bad, wrong server xD

narrow rampart
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There are a few exceptions tho

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Like if you get the zeus poseidon duo boon

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You can have your attack apply both rupture and jolted

plucky brook
brisk trail
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love this game, only time i have ever double dipped on two systems, and i would have happily paid more than $25 each time

fresh crest
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I’m heavily considering getting it on another system cause of how good it is

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Feel especially with the save feature it’s just so worth it

brisk trail
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StS is the only other rougelike i have ever played and I started doing that during dota queues a couple years ago. I already have more hours on Hades and I only got it when it released on switch lol

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switch and pc

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but i'm playing 4k 144hz Pog

fresh crest
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Pc, heard the performance was better but if I get it on switch then I could play it without having to get it up aha

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Yeah I’ve heard good things about the switch version

brisk trail
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yeah i got it on switch first just cuz it was $25 and i didn't know anything about it other than it was a rougelike

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it's great to play when at lady's house or on the run, but obviously playing on PC is the superior way, technically

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not technically in the sense of "technically correct" but just objectively better performance by a long shot

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i get pretty drastic FPS drops on my switch, which is to be expected, but that's just the nature of the switch. Plays pretty flawlessly on even ancient PC hardware, though

brazen lagoon
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yeah my pc specs are doodoo but it can run hades just fine

fresh crest
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only thing is or like aiming with the bow and the rail special and all that, seems like they'd be a bit of a pain on the switch

full pier
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Are legendary blessings spoilers?

brisk trail
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tbh, I can't stand playing Hades in handheld, but I have pretty big hands. Holding the console for more than 30 mins while having to mash the dash button bends my thumbs in unnatural ways. I play with the pro controller though and am fine

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but playing on controller is much more enjoyable for me

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compared to m+k

full pier
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Oh yeah hades is on the switch is it? How's the frame rate?

brisk trail
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it hitches at times in some rooms

full pier
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I see

brisk trail
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it's definitely not what I would call intrusive

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and I am used to high fps PC gaming

full pier
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Ah

brisk trail
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using controller on PC gives you the same aim assist as if playing on console

full pier
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I don't mind frame drops in risk of rain 2 becaude if I'm lagging the game it means I'm having a decent run

brisk trail
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If I didn't already have it, I'd pay the $25 to get it on switch just to distract myself during a flight lol

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i.e., if you play your switch while on the move, it's worth it, especially now that cross saves are out

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just port PC progress over or vice versa

full pier
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Ror2 is my pick for goty from 2019 and spelunky 2 for 2020. Dunno if hades can take it from spelunky 2 because I haven't spent as much time in hades

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Haven't played enough hades yet

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I spent like 70 hours in spelunky 2 and only like 20 in hades

brazen lagoon
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hades best game ever smh

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any other opinion is wrong

full pier
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The game seems too hard for me but that's what I said about gungeon and gungeon feels real nice and easy to play so it'll prob change

brisk trail
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I sometimes have to take the train places and that's usually about 30-40 mins away

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aka 100% perfect timing for a run

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so that endears Hades to me more lol

full pier
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||pact of punishment|| is not something I like cause it reminds me of eclipse from ror2 and I hated it

brisk trail
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I felt the game was very hard until i had a few clears

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oops

full pier
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One of the things I wanna do in the ||pact|| is the one that gives bosses ||new attacks I think it was||

fresh crest
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bro enter the gungeon made me not want to try this game

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It literally put me off the genre

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I've got way more hours and never even been CLOSE

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Yeah I feel like Hades is a very good balance of story and amazing gameplay... and getting my ass kicked

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yeah that's what drew me in

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yeah I am kinda grinding right now but there is just sooo much to do it's not even like I'm actually grinding

#

like all the side story, it's just amazing

full pier
#

Etg is kind of easy until you enter bullet hell

#

Then its just unfair

fresh crest
#

yeah I kept getting to the third floor on etg and then it just seemed like if I didn't have a good setup I was just getting nowhere, and the difference with Hades is there's pretty much no progression or story in etg 😭

full pier
#

I find it strange how invested I was in hades story since story is my least priority in games

#

Good gameplay and music is good enough for me

#

Good story is just a bonus for me

fresh crest
#

The music in hades tho 😍

brazen lagoon
#

the music is absolutely amazing

#

it's a crime it didn't win best soundtrack

full pier
#

Eh I have to say I prefer ror2 soundtrack

#

Hades soundtrack is amazing don't get me wrong it's just ror2 really sticks to me

fresh crest
#

I stopped in a room for a minute while I ate and I honestly had like a moment where I just reaised how good the music was

full pier
#

I made it to final boss phase 2 and I was feeling confident until I realized the timer was low as hell and then I died to it

#

Felt bad

manic bobcat
brisk trail
#

How do I force a fight against ||our based friend Charon||?

rotund igloo
#

This didnt seem bad enough to post about in tech support, but on the 3840x1600 resolution on PC, the arm rest images on the side are out of position >_>
They're too high, with empty black space below

fresh crest
sour sky
#

Anyone else think the spear is kinda too all over the place in terms of its moveset?

rough eagle
#

You can fight multiple ways. It's probably my most effective weapon.

sour sky
#

That’s what I mean yeah

fleet acorn
#

spear is definitely my least favorite weapon

sour sky
#

Like, it’s just got a wonky charge attack for no reason

rough eagle
#

I almost never use the spin, just kinda kite either back or through my opponents and use the reach. Then against ranged opponents, the throw and return is excellent.

The spin only works if you are really well positioned out of anyone's range, and I move around too much to catch on

faint burrow
#

sword last aspect best weapon imo

sour sky
#

Sounds like it

#

K then

#

The basic ranged attack doesn’t feel very useful without synergies

inland pivot
#

I agree with that, I personally think they made the ideas for the aspects first before considering the main aspect

rough eagle
#

Yeah. I think that having had no spin would have been better.

sour sky
#

It’s good with Achilles though

#

The spin kinda just seems like they threw it in there cuz why not

inland pivot
#

Achilles's Aspect is hard focused on the spear throw, Hades's aspect is based on the spin

fleet acorn
#

achilles spear best spear dont @ me

#

+150% damage for clicking special twice is lovely

sour sky
#

I don’t use the spin so don’t buy the hades one got it

inland pivot
#

But it feels like they made the spear with those two aspects first-minded and it makes Zag spear feel very out of place

sour sky
#

I’m shreading with this crit build

fleet acorn
#

spear is good ||when it's Gigaros, and not Varatha|| shadesmile

dapper oracle
#

The one time I beat ||Charon|| was in tartarus for some reason and I even beat ||Hades|| afterwards because I got ||Patroclus|| XD

inland pivot
#

For reference, I love Hades Spear's damage buff.

#

||Gigaros isn't my main playstyle but it's fun nonetheless.||

fresh crest
#

Hades spear is amazing honestly

fleet acorn
#

||i was talking about hades' spear that he uses in the fight, which is a different spear than the aspect of hades spear||

sour sky
#

Lmao one shot hydra with Artemis call after the last multi-head phase

#

Is it just me or do all the basic zagreus aspects kinda suck?

fleet acorn
#

zag fists are good

#

not great or anything but the dodge chance is something

sour sky
#

It’s just so... bland

spice hearth
#

it's kinda the point of the Zag aspects

carmine ravine
#

Zag bow is okay i guess

spice hearth
#

they're cheap investments but by themselves they're boring compared to everything else

fleet acorn
#

'

sour sky
spice hearth
#

which is also true

topaz yew
#

what is crit rated as a stat?

#

like is it like a top 5 to have if you can or is it one of those things on the side

granite ether
#

depends on the weapon, aspect and build

topaz yew
#

okay thank you im trying something and crit seems to be doing it toll in damage

topaz yew
#

OKAY

#

SO

#

DIDNT KNO

#

the bow's ||Aspect has a targeting function like wth i might actually use the bow more???||

#

||Aspect of Chiron seems fun i might do a run tommorow with it||

sharp fossil
#

||chiron|| can be a lot of fun, but can feel lacklustre until it’s fully upgraded

#

if it’s only level 1 i’d recommend a hangover special build, which should still work okay

topaz yew
#

i dont know anything too much about special builds im like in the middle of knowing just enough but not the full game

#

BUT

#

Im assuming thats the special with Dion

sharp fossil
#

yeah

wispy flax
#

Maybe todays the day I figure out how to get that ||Lucifer|| aspect, cause that dialogue showed up and I still havent received my unlock button blobsadmeow

spice hearth
#

like with the phrase and everything?

wispy flax
#

Yeah, I got the phrase earlier and still hasnt been unlocked, which is really odd to me.

spice hearth
#

that's definitely a bug, you should be able to immediately

wispy flax
#

Yeah Im doing another run to see if its just a quirk or Im actually softlocked somewhere

trim wagon
#

how do I get ||sigil of the dead? I already gave hades one nectar but I can't give anything else to him||

rotund igloo
#

wait

tender oxide
trim wagon
#

ohhh ok

#

damn I've ||only escaped 3 times||

#

oh uhh ||do the pact of punishment give bonuses? or does it just make it harder to escape||?

hexed shore
#

Bounties

winter harbor
#

||You get titan blood, diamond, and ambrosia for each new heat level you clear up to 20, so I’d say there’s decent bonuses||

rich acorn
#

Tiny vermin new hardest boss

trim wagon
#

just punch

hexed shore
#

I legit believe that power couple is the hardest boss

granite ether
#

yes, they do

#

ignore my initial complete misreading of the question 😂

versed verge
#

well then i now have a personal 100% goal lol

winter harbor
#

For non hell mode files

#

If you’re playing in hell mode it stops at 25

versed verge
#

hey does anyone have a list of voice actors for the game?

#

I just learned that kaiserneko is the dionysus's voice actor and i wanted to see if it was true

prisma wind
#

Cyrus Nemati is Dionysus, Ares, and Theseus

versed verge
#

oh so it's not true then lol

prisma wind
#

But if you open the game there is a credits section in the main menu

hexed shore
#

Post 20 you just do it cause why not then?

trim wagon
#

just ||beat hades twice in a row, I'm getting better|| I'm ||up to four escapes||!

prisma wind
#

Congrats Guilt!

prisma wind
trim wagon
#

so wait, ||does completing bounties make my stats stronger overall?||

versed verge
#

my current goals are: all achievements, max levels on all weapons, ||beat em4 with every weapon ||, get the|| bond sticker on all trinkets ||,|| statue 32||, and now ||20 heat on all weapons||

#

cant think of anything else

hexed shore
prisma wind
hexed shore
#

||Like using ambrosia can give you more companions||

trim wagon
#

ohh ok

mint forum
#

imagine spoilering chiron pepega

hexed fulcrum
#

anyone know anything about hades coming to ps? feeling hella left out:(

narrow hemlock
#

nothing more has been said about it really

tender oxide
#

Based on the fact that it’s been out for as long as it has with no mention of plans to port it I’d assume that they probably won’t be porting it anytime soon if they do at all

narrow hemlock
#

their previous games got ports months down the line so i would just say have some patience and see

#

they were on break over the holidays too, something to keep in mind

hexed fulcrum
#

okay thansk for the help guys

narrow hemlock
#

wish we had more info ): if you use twitter make sure you follow their account @ supergiantgames, i'd assume they'll make an announcement if more ports come to pass

wispy flax
#

Have a total of 5 Titan Blood or more invested into Rail aspects
SteamFacepalm

#

All this time and thats what I didnt have.

#

Is there any way to uninvest blood so I can put it somewhere else?

tender oxide
#

No

ornate bear
#

Loving this game so much - over 100 hours in the game now

Just tried Stubborn Defiance for this first time, and I didn't actually even end up using it (well, I purposefully died once to heal up with Touch of Styx Dark)

shadow fiber
#

I blew an ez win by using 1.5 death defiances

#

I’m so mad

rich acorn
#

Dang

lean wadi
#

its difficult but the fun kind

#

the souls kind

rich acorn
#

Btw what’s the max regen time on Stygian soul?

ornate bear
#

I really like the ||heat system|| for the ability to change the difficulty in so many ways

tender oxide
# lean wadi its difficult but the fun kind

Exactly, I find most of the reason I still like the game even when it’s hard is because there’s actually a story and you advance it by dying, so even when you do end up having to stat over you get to indulge in the story a bit before trying again. The permanent upgrades also help a lot too

waxen juniper
#

Part of the reason I keep playing is because of all of the builds I can experiment with.

tender oxide
#

Yeah I love trying different boons on my attack/special to see what works the best

torn geyser
#

Glad to say I have finally "completed" Hades after 127 hours, getting all 49 achievements. Genuinely cannot wait to see more of this game, and I sincerely hope we do. Thanatos Boons pls

#

Somehow I only have 4 trading cards though. Thanks Steam

waxen juniper
#

Complete is a strong word 😉

winter harbor
#

I got the foil hades card on steam somehow

#

I think it might be my first foil card ever

rich acorn
#

GG mate!

#

What is the “dodge chance” that is referred to in some boons and upgrades?

waxen juniper
#

It is a chance to not take the damage

tender oxide
#

You have a chance to “dodge” an attack (you don’t take any damage)

#

And if you get multiple dodge chance things they add together

rich acorn
#

Oooh I thought it meant you automatically dash that’s way better

winter harbor
#

Like, if you would get hit, you just don’t

waxen juniper
#

Yep. Just keep in mind one of the conditions of Greater Evasion is to get hit before you get a dodge chance.
So it can be a bit risky

rich acorn
#

I’ll definitely use that in the future

waxen juniper
#

I know you're referring to dodge in general, but I thought it's worth to point it out

rich acorn
#

But speaking of the hermes boons, the art for the symbols are super cool

tender oxide
#

If you use Hermes’ keepsake, get a 20-25% dodge chance boon, and use max zag aspect fists you can get very high dodge chances

waxen juniper
#

Yea, it's nuts

#

Basically a free fight at the end

tender oxide
#

I got to 60% and I didn’t even have Hermes’ keepsake maxed yet lol

rich acorn
#

Mr untouchable

hexed shore
#

That seems like a crying dab moment

waxen juniper
#

If you play your cards right, you can get 100% or more dodge chance

rich acorn
#

Isn’t there also a mirror upgrade that gives +dodge chance?

waxen juniper
#

Don't think so

hexed shore
#

There isn't

hollow hawk
#

Ruthless reflex gives it

waxen juniper
#

Ruthless reflex gives extra damage if you get a near miss

prisma wind
#

It's extra damage and dodge chance

hollow hawk
#

yeah^50% extra dodge chance for like 2 secs after you near miss

waxen juniper
#

Oh interesting. Didn't know about that part

#

The nice thing is near misses almost come naturally

#

Not at all as hard as they sound

#

Btw, do the presence abilities work for any type of damage?

#

Like if you have shadow presence, can you backstab with a cast?

prisma wind
#

No, you'd still need Parting Shot for that

waxen juniper
#

Oh. Is that the same for fiery presence too?

#

If not, what do they normally work on?

prisma wind
#

Shadow Presence affects any damage that counts as backstab damage normally. Fiery Presence works universally on any undamaged enemy

waxen juniper
#

Oh good. So Fiery Presence does work with casts. I did 5 runs doing a cast fiery presence build yesterday. I'm glad it wasn't all for nought. :P

#

So does special backstab? Or is it attack only?

prisma wind
#

Depends on the special. From memory, AoE specials don't backstab

hexed shore
#

So parting shot is useless with fiery unless exposed?

prisma wind
#

Parting Shot automatically grants cast backstab

waxen juniper
#

You can also get chaos boons and a well of charon item that increases backstab damage

hexed shore
#

Sure but what does back stab do without shadow presence

prisma wind
#

It has its own base backstab damage increase built in (30%? something like that)

hexed shore
#

Huh I've never seen back stab bonuspop up unless I'm using shadow

waxen juniper
#

Chaos backstab boons will not be offered if you are running fiery presence

#

That is because fiery presence makes it to where you can't backstab.

#

Backstab is a shadow presence effect.

#

At least, that's what I am understanding. I do believe that the backstab damage comes from shadow presence

rapid forum
#

wouldn't parting shot be a lot better with shadow?

waxen juniper
#

Significantly

hexed shore
#

I find it hard to backstab with casts personally

graceful flicker
#

I beat the final boss for the first time today

hexed shore
#

Does aphro cast deal different damage depending on how far you hit it

waxen juniper
#

Congrats! Only 1,000,000 + more to go 😆

#

No it does not Myth

hexed shore
#

Basically does it deal more damage if I shotgun people instead of just grazing them

waxen juniper
#

No difference

hexed shore
#

So it's just a wide wave

#

Nice

graceful flicker
shadow fiber
#

Can you get infinite bounties

prisma wind
#

No you stop getting them after ||20 heat with each weapon||

waxen juniper
#

Yea. Sadly I have a feeling I need more diamonds then I can actually have from the bounties

prisma wind
#

Unless you've done some aggressive trading, you should have plenty. So I'm guessing that's what happened?

waxen juniper
#

The court music accumulates a lot of diamonds, but I tended to trade them for ambrosia while I was dealing with that grind

#

You can still get diamonds from nectar (which I no longer need), so the broker can definitely make it happen

torpid mango
#

What do you do with those hearts you get from@meg?

hexed shore
#

What hearts

torpid mango
#

Or little red@potion looking things

manic bobcat
#

blood i think

torpid mango
#

Yes perhaps

manic bobcat
#

you can use it to upgrade weapons later

hexed shore
#

Titan blood

#

?

manic bobcat
#

yeah titan blood

plucky brook
#

imagine building towards hunting blades and never getting it Sadge

waxen juniper
#

Good feeling

#

Next time don't go for hunting blades and ya might get it

plucky brook
#

you won't catch me running achilles with ares & artemis ever again

vast geyser
ripe sun
runic parrot
#

i got a quite useless legendary boon in styx, so i went into more chambers to try and get a purging station so i could get the steam achievement. i forgot i had tight deadline on 7 minutes and died on the room with the purging station

hushed pumice
#

Taken by the ticks

sacred escarp
#

o7

vast geyser
#

this may sound stupid, but I think a multiplayer mode you can enter while in a run(every 10 rooms or so) where you basically play in a thanatos room with another person , that could be pretty fun

#

and maybe the players have to be on the same room so one isn't op

prisma wind
#

I can see how that might be fun, but it would also be an incredible amount of work for SGG to implement

#

Plus the fact that the game is balanced around a single player experience where Zag is effectively a glass cannon

vast geyser
#

yeah that's true

remote hull
#

when you have to stop playing hades bc your wrist do be hurting;-;

brazen lagoon
#

Use your other wrist then

remote hull
#

that

#

LOL

#

I wish it were that simple

prisma wind
#

Just gotta convert to a controller squirtdevious

versed verge
#

Or get on of those mouse pads with extra plush near the wrist area

rapid forum
#

you know

#

relay race in hades might be interesting

#

idk

prisma wind
#

How would that work? Pass your save off to someone else after each biome?

manic bobcat
#

Just pass the controller bro

rapid forum
#

yea

#

was thinking like that

#

but pandemic

#

uhhhhhhhhhh

#

"Ok we're gonna do EM4, Eric good luck"
Eric : "wait wat?"

manic bobcat
#

Well just get together. If you don't have COVID, cool. If you do, everyone has it and you can hang out in isolation together which means even more Hades Racing

#

Literally win win

prisma wind
#

😬

manic bobcat
#

Wight knows I make too much sense

rapid forum
#

so much sense, I'm not even trying to understand it

versed verge
#

No fox has a point

plucky brook
#

Sadge died to redacted cause I never got any duo boons and am noob

#

no mirage shot or hunting blades on a blade rift cast build PepeHands

#

god's legacy nerfed confirmed

rapid forum
#

funny

#

that was my last run's build

unborn anchor
#

This is why Hidden spear is the superior Blade Rift

lapis ether
#

i m frigged

rapid forum
#

I got everything

lapis ether
#

i can’t play with anything but the bow

#

he

#

and i need ambrosia ;-;

plucky brook
#

yeah fluffy, I had 20% darkness on spear

#

and saw your build

#

and wentr

#

"maybe i'll try that, cause I normally hate the spear"

#

guess what, I HATE IT EVEN MORE NOW KEKW

rapid forum
#

hey spear is gud :<

lapis ether
#

spear gud

manic bobcat
#

hold up

versed verge
manic bobcat
#

how are there 3 different Dusa emotes

brazen lagoon
#

Spear good you just bad smh

lapis ether
rapid forum
#

cause dusa is the best

plucky brook
brazen lagoon
#

^

rapid forum
manic bobcat
#

No like 3 of the same Dusa though

versed verge
#

Ceberus

brazen lagoon
#

I don't see a problem

prisma wind
lapis ether
#

i am a huge simp

craggy barn
#

death daddy

rapid forum
#

I simp for artemis

lapis ether
#

shes a i would trust her with my life kind of pretty ✨

rapid forum
#

ye

craggy barn
#

🍃 artemis 🍀 🍂 ✨

lapis ether
#

i need ambrosia badly ;-;

#

why must i suck

rapid forum
#

to Theseus and Asterius "THIS IS A ROBBERY"

lapis ether
#

dude theseus and asterius is actual hell

craggy barn
#

wait till he sees the pact

lapis ether
manic bobcat
lapis ether
rapid forum
#

you'll get there :>

manic bobcat
#

Take Evergreen Acorn for that fight, it helps.

lapis ether
lapis ether
lapis ether
#

what?

craggy barn
#

you get hit fairly often the spearpoint is nice

lyric wharf
#

You'll eventually get better at the fight, they're supposed to be hard.

manic bobcat
#

If you want to see an example fight of that with limited mirror talent and almost zero boons, you can look in #h1-for-new-players for the vid I posted.

#

Not a perfect fight but close enough.

craggy barn
brazen lagoon
lapis ether
#

i know what happens in the story

#

just

#

i have no idea what that is

#

wh

lyric wharf
#

Its a Roguelike game, its all about analyzing and learning enemies patterns.

craggy barn
#

i'd recommend that when the fight starts you should always immediately go for asterius and keep him away from theseus

lyric wharf
#

At some point you'll just be attacking them non stop while not taking much damage.

craggy barn
#

the most theseus will be able to do in that situation is throw his spear at you which is easily avoided by hiding behind pillars

lapis ether
#

i just need to not get hit mostly

lyric wharf
#

Watch out for when Theseus aim at you, hide behind a pillar when he's going to throw his spear, learn to time it so that you know when to hide.

lapis ether
#

which in a 20 min average run that’s pretty hard

craggy barn
#

theseus is totally vulnerable while he's calling for a god

lapis ether
craggy barn
#

you can wail on him but be mindful of the god trying to kill you

lyric wharf
lapis ether
#

i can’t use anything but the bow

#

because i suck at close range and dash timing

worldly canyon
#

Theseus is a wee guy, but Asterius is a shagger

lapis ether
#

i don’t like gun because of the ammo garbo

#

sword in my opinion is okay

worldly canyon
#

I like the upgrade that bumps it up to 18 shots personally

lapis ether
craggy barn
#

you can also upgrade zag aspect to have up to 24 base ammo

lapis ether
#

okay cool

#

no titan blood though

craggy barn
#

it only costs 5 but i'd recommend you try it out some more, get a feel for it before investing any resources into it

lapis ether
#

oh

#

i do not like claws

#

just

#

no

#

shield and lance are okay i could care less

#

shield good because it does the captain america

craggy barn
#

the general strat for fists is to keep chaining hits by dashing around your enemy while attacking so there's no delay in-between attacks

lyric wharf
craggy barn
#

it's also great with zeus, dionysus, arty basically any god that's generally good with fast weapons

lapis ether
#

mm

#

also

craggy barn
#

you should only use the special for dealing with enemies that have low health

lyric wharf
#

Every weapons are good btw, you just need to learn them, nothing wrong with not using them all tho, just play with what you prefer.

manic bobcat
lapis ether
#

aph is good

#

weak i very nice

craggy barn
#

spear seems meh but the way i've seem haelian use it is crazy

lyric wharf
#

Putting curses on bow special is pretty good.

lapis ether
#

it is

lyric wharf
#

Spear is amazing, especially Achilles spear.

#

Its my favorite weapon, I loved it from the start.

manic bobcat
#

Yeah, it makes Crystal Meme a reality

craggy barn
#

has he made a guide on how to use the spear in particular? i wanna spam dash-strike and kill enemies instantly

manic bobcat
#

Just take serrated point 4head

prisma wind
#

Crystal Meme is too fun, especially with Stygian and extra casts

lapis ether
#

aspect of chiron with art special imo is pretty good

craggy barn
#

without serrated point

#

smh\

#

imagine crystal meme but with stygian soul and multiple casts

lyric wharf
#

Well looking at players makes it looks like they're spam dashing, somehow true but this is all coordinated.

manic bobcat
#

It surprises me sometimes the discrepancy between Deadly Strike and Deadly Flourish

#

If Strike has the same stats as Flourish

#

Oh boy

lapis ether
#

i remember one of my friend sent me a boon for aph

prisma wind
#

I believe the balance there (with attack vs special in general) is that attacks can be executed more frequently and so have lower damage to compensate

lapis ether
#

it was “Empty inside”

manic bobcat
novel wasp
#

thought nothing head empty

manic bobcat
#

And Chiron

lapis ether
#

“Weak effects have a longer duration”

manic bobcat
#

In general

lapis ether
#

and with the subtitle never have i been so offended with something i 100% agree with

prisma wind
#

There are small exceptions but for the most part yes

novel wasp
#

also @lapis ether is that a drip thanatoast

lapis ether
#

yes

novel wasp
#

thats cursed

#

you have angered the cursed god

manic bobcat
#

what's drip?

lapis ether
#

but drip

novel wasp
#

Thanachos

manic bobcat
#

like just outfit in general?

novel wasp
#

activate

lapis ether
#

oh no

craggy barn
#

thanatos

#

drip incarnate

versed verge
novel wasp
#

Thanachos watches over you

manic bobcat
#

Than looks like Doom Guy

craggy barn
#

it gets worse the longer you look at it

versed verge
#

Like you have you ever seen dragon ball super broly movie?

novel wasp
#

it gets better tomato guy

versed verge
#

When goku and vegeta were in those tracksuits before the fight? That's drip.

lapis ether
#

want cursed thanatos

novel wasp
#

@lapis ether your wish is my command

versed verge
#

I want zagerus with drip mod

lapis ether
#

same

novel wasp
#

Thanatoast

#

Breakfast approaches

lyric wharf
#

Lol.

worldly canyon
craggy barn
#

why

versed verge
#

Doom guy looking

prisma wind
#

Let's take the meme spam from 100% down to about 5%, please shadethumbsup

versed verge
#

Did the thanatos wall just move?

lapis ether
#

yes

versed verge
#

Or am I just really tired

lapis ether
#

yes

novel wasp
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it slowly surrounds you

versed verge
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Oh okay good I'm not losing it

lapis ether
novel wasp
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the god of curse return to doing random things

lapis ether
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AMONG US DRIP SHOES NOO-

novel wasp
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I will share you the curse knowledge in DM Raku

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if you need

worldly canyon
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I'm such a moron hahahahahahahahah

lapis ether
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oh

worldly canyon
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Beat the hydra and went for a sip of my morning coffee, not realising I had one foot in the lava

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Lost a death defy shadegrief

versed verge
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Keep it sfw raku

novel wasp
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If you say that again I will punish you with eternal meme hell

lapis ether
lapis ether
worldly canyon
maiden belfry
supple lodge
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frontfacing thanatos weirds me out

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his bangs are like a mcdonalds sign

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how does he get them to stay so. upright

maiden belfry
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does that include having all the ||warden ranks|| and all the contractor stufff done rescWTF

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not sure what the "100% guide" is for the game

runic parrot
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there's only one step and it just says "grind"

manic bobcat
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100% Achievement isn't that grindy

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You can probably finish it in 100 hours or less.

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100% the game is a completely different story though

runic parrot
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I'd think so

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ive put in about 80 hrs and im only 3 achieves away

gritty roost
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100 hours or less
oof

manic bobcat
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I mean that's kinda low for most Steam games tbh

gritty roost
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hmm just took a peek at the achievement list, yeah it's not that hard i think

modern quail
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heya

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been playing hades for almost a month now

gritty roost
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godspeed mate

modern quail
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are there any games with a similar feel to the combat?

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i hunger for more

gritty roost
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bastion? kinda slower though

modern quail
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😔

maiden belfry
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if you want similair gameplay, find a new roguelike woopsADD

modern quail
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it felt almost like a fighting game but isometric

gritty roost
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how about

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hyper light drifter

maiden belfry
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true

gritty roost
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it's close enough I think with the top down fastpaced action

modern quail
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with all the mechanics around precise movement and hitstun and all that

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oh yeah i should try and play that with my arcade stick

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also i love playing hades with an arcade stick

lyric wharf
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What do you mean by isometric ?

modern quail
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annoyingly the connection it has with the switch is super unreliable

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well you know

lyric wharf
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I see.

modern quail
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like at an angle where you can see depth and height

maiden belfry
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its the sort of top down camera angle

gritty roost
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someone built a whole arcade cabinet for Hades

modern quail
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yeah i saw, that was awesome

maiden belfry
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but yeah 100% dead cells is great

modern quail
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i kinda wanna get hades on the pc too

lyric wharf
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Dead Cells combat might be the closest to Hades.

maiden belfry
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just know, dead cells can be REALLY unforgiving of mistakes

modern quail
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just so i can use my fightstick more reliably

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i've been playing hollow knight

maiden belfry
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good choice

modern quail
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which kind of almost reminds me of hades?

lyric wharf
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Its hard to find something close to Hades, I've played a lot of Roguelike games and Hades is the best to me so far.

maiden belfry
severe smelt
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Does anyone know where the Hades game folder is located on Steam?

lyric wharf
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Same.

modern quail
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not necessarily in like it's tone but in how well structured and hand crafted it is

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i know

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it makes binding of isaac feel so clunky in comparison

gritty roost
severe smelt
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Thank you! 🙏

maiden belfry
lyric wharf
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There's 20XX which is a good Roguelike inspired from Mega Man X but there isn't as much action as Hades.

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Before Hades, Dead Cells and 20XX were my favorite Roguelike games.

maiden belfry
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there was this really difficuly absolute bastard of a roguelike i heard about recently

craggy barn
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there's a roguelike inspire by mega man?

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how have i never heard of this

modern quail
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i've heard good things about risk of rain 2 but it goes in a completely different direction than hades

lyric wharf
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Also, 30XX, a sequel to 20XX came out recently on Steam in Early Access.

craggy barn
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i wanna play risk of rain 2 but it's unplayable on my laptop

gritty roost
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yea RoR 2 is awesome, but it's a third person shooter

manic bobcat
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Curse of the Dead Gods recently came out of EA I think

craggy barn
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eww ea 🤮

lyric wharf
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I have Risk of Rain 2 on Switch, its nice but I haven't played it much.

modern quail
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also for the longest time i was convinced that hades had 3d models on top of 2d backgrounds

craggy barn
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whaddya mean it doesn't

modern quail
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oh whoops

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forgot, sorry

lyric wharf
modern quail
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they're prerendered

manic bobcat
gritty roost
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Children of Morta is also an awesome roguelite with story elements.

manic bobcat
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Early Access

modern quail
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apparently each animation has 32 prebaked directions

manic bobcat
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Not Electronic Arts

severe smelt
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I think the hardest achievent for me will be the butterfly one 🤣

craggy barn
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damnit

modern quail
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which is actually insane

lyric wharf
severe smelt
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Not for me lol

manic bobcat
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It's not that strict

severe smelt
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I'm used to taking damage for benefit, the butterfly is like not congurent with that

manic bobcat
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You can get it by the end of Asphodel

craggy barn
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zag rail + poseidon attack is what i'd recommend

modern quail
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what's your favorite weapon?

maiden belfry
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its called noita

severe smelt
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Oh? I thought it requires no damage the whole game

modern quail
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oh i love noita

lyric wharf
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Before Hades, Children of Morta was the closest Roguelike to have a story but not as much as Hades, Children of Morta has cutscenes between runs sometimes while Hades usually always have story whether between runs or during runs.

manic bobcat
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Only up to a certain percent

maiden belfry
gritty roost
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noita doesnt really click for me, too sandbox-y

severe smelt
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you're basically done then ^^

maiden belfry
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this game is for the mentally deranged

manic bobcat
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I'm 48/49

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I need the Bad Call one, use Greater Call in trial

modern quail
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honestly the closest comparison i can think of to hades in tone is something like spiritfarer

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spiritfarer has convinced me that every game should have a hug button

maiden belfry
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oh im 45/49 on achievments

manic bobcat
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I played since EA and I'm sure I did it, but it didn't register retroactively

severe smelt
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I'm 38/49 still a lot left

modern quail
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i only have it on switch which i don't think has an equivalent to achievements?

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aside from the list of minor prophecies and all

manic bobcat
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Don't think so yeah

maiden belfry
manic bobcat
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But hey you can do bedtime Hades

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Which is really cool

craggy barn
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once i've done the ||heat|| achievements i'll just go for bad call

manic bobcat
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What's the 2nd one?

modern quail
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so if i got it on steam and did the save share would i get a bunch of acheivments at once?

maiden belfry
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do the harsh conditions prophecy

maiden belfry
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which im workingon

manic bobcat
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But not all

modern quail
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neat

manic bobcat
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Most will register

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But some won't

modern quail
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well it's not like i've got the game 100%ed anyway

manic bobcat
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Yeab

severe smelt
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||Clear an Infernal Gate without taking damage||

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no idea how hard that one is

modern quail
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i've gotten to the true ending but not the epilogue

severe smelt
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still haven't open the gates lol

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Is there no achievement for all the prophecies tho

craggy barn
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doing an ||infernal gate|| is actually really easy

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if you're in tartarus

severe smelt
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There also doesn't seem one for ||EM4||

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phew

craggy barn
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that would be awful

severe smelt
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ahahaha

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The ultimate test

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"now get ||em4 ||and do the butterfly"

manic bobcat
maiden belfry
craggy barn
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oh yeah uh

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||heat modifiers|| are spoilers

manic bobcat
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Yeah please mask that ||EM4||

brazen lagoon
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||did an erebus gate in asphodel once, wasn't expecting an elysium enemy and got hit immediately||

manic bobcat
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That's like omega spoiler xD

severe smelt
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I keep forgetting which channels are spoiler set and which are not

manic bobcat
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Erebus can have enemies from every biome I think

severe smelt
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especially since I often forget which channel I'm even in >_>

manic bobcat
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Except Styx

brazen lagoon
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i basically never take erebus gates cause i'm too scared to go in em lol

manic bobcat
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That's nice

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My friends don't play Hades

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They think Portal is fast paced

brazen lagoon
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neither do mine lol

manic bobcat
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So yeah

severe smelt
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God having to do Python things for this 🤣

brazen lagoon
#

that being said most of my friends IRL never play video games so

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and the ones that do play like league or whatever

craggy barn
modern quail
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is anyone here into fighting games?

manic bobcat
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Literally same

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@brazen lagoon

brazen lagoon
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i have MKX

craggy barn
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what is it with how it's always only your friends who play mobas

modern quail
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i feel like a lot of comparisons could be made between them and hades

brazen lagoon
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i think MOBAs are disgusting

gritty roost
rancid vapor
craggy barn
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i used to play casual smash

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but i got bored of it

brazen lagoon
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i mostly button mash when i'm playing fighting games cause i'm too lazy to learn moves and stuff

manic bobcat
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Nothing wrong there xD

modern quail
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i really like killer instinct and tekken

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i've also played a bit of skullgirls

manic bobcat
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Laser beams can definitely melt snow banks