FO2...? isnt that smth like 40% atk/movement speed increase
#h1-discussion
green maple
brisk trail
ye
green maple
That + atk/speed increase from BP would be mad
brave dove
i got a crit backstab third hit in the attack combo for sword 4 on final boss
and i gotta tell u seeing the hp bar just BLIP down was satisfying
||enough blood for rama bow.. any tips for the bow?||
rapid forum
not much tbh
real edge
||utilise your special wisely||
rapid forum
or that
twin shot is great with it
or the 3 spread thingy
but twin shot is superior imo
real edge
twin shot is better imo 2
brave dove
aight
north pier
probably something on your end, that's a critical weapon function
real edge
i havent had problems with it
brave dove
feel like bow 4 shoots slower
rapid forum
tho tbf, other than hidden fist and rail, you kinda need hermes buff for hidden weapons to make it at least comfortable
molten nymph
btw
i think i heard from someone that hermes does not affect bow dash attack charge
can someone confirm?
brave dove
ok til
molten nymph
i'm not really sure about that
brave dove
sword 4 special can stop spike traps
brave dove
ooo
molten nymph
not sure if it works on urns
rapid forum
also turn poseidon's wave to a nightmare 
brave dove
wait y a nightmare?
rapid forum
you know poseidon's wave knocks you along with it?
imagine if it's slower, and you get hit
brave dove
oh.. oh.......
rapid forum
multiple times baby
brave dove
oh god ok yup whenever im offered poseidon or something ima pick poseidon
rapid forum
also it'll drift
brave dove
ooo i just got the one where my special does doom
i hope i get the athena duo thing where it makes doom effect happen instantly
rapid forum
reminds me of that one time I got athena on attack with hidden bow
got epic version of it
... then artemis offered me a heroic version of hers
welp
rapid forum
nah fam, I didn't get any pom
so it was like
the stars aligned
for the rightfully wrong reason
brisk trail
So I didn't turn off god mode but I messed around with fists and dashing and it just feels so boring and dirty.
Idk why anyone would recommend playing like that.
It just...breaks the game.
brave dove
nobody tell him about nemesis or sword 4
rapid forum
well yes
brave dove
hey it took me to my 46TH try to beat final boss
rapid forum
I also meant the fist
brisk trail
I didn't even have Athena deflect, just hangover dash
It's just not a fun way to play. My hand started cramping from holding the button and every room just was reduced to the same mashing.
rapid forum
yea, that's fine
real edge
that's a roguelike
rapid forum
I sometimes cramp my hand using it lel
brisk trail
that's a roguelike
No, lol it's not. Because at that point you're not actually playing, you're just exploiting. Idk. Not for me.
brave dove
how is attacking with what was intentionally put into the game exploiting
i mean it doing the job super fast dosent mean its exploiting
it just means its faster than what u were using before
brisk trail
Nevermind lmao, that's not what I'm trying to say.
molten nymph
trust me you're going to take all the "exploit" you can get
brave dove
i take all the "exploit" i can get aside from god mode
i wanna make it harder for me so no godmode :>
molten nymph
i don't think people run athena attack on fists on high heat
brisk trail
Merciful end build wants ares attack, no?
brave dove
honestly having deflect on ur cast is just like... wut?
faint flint
probably something on your end, that's a critical weapon function
i seem to dash while striking fine with other weapons
it's just this one
that seems to sort of goof up when you try to alternately dash and strike
green isle
Does anyone know if the "you only get 4 gods to show up during a run" (minus keepsakes) is still correct? I swear I had 6 gods (not counting Hermes) offering their boons in one of my runs but I only took one keepsake to guarantee a god
brisk trail
trust me you're going to take all the "exploit" you can get
But why?
molten nymph
because even with all those, nobody has broke maximum heat
brisk trail
Does anyone know if the "you only get 4 gods to show up during a run" (minus kee...
It is
I think a 5th god can appear when, for example
You have 3 gods atm, then get a new god in a shop and a new god as one of the next chambers
But you will only ever have 4 slots
brave dove
also chaos gates
brisk trail
So if you pick a 5th one, it will kick one god out
green isle
So if you pick a 5th one, it will kick one god out
Ah, makes sense, I didn't take Ares even though he showed up as a room reward and then never saw it again after picking up something else, thanks
zealous wyvern
real edge
Yeah
rapid forum
yep, you also don't lose the stack
brisk trail
The stack?
rapid forum
every time you die with god mode, your defense increase by 2%
you won't lose the stack if you go in and out
rapid forum
no shame
mint sinew
slim grail
i wanna confess that im soo dumb
i keep giving achilles the nectar thinking that he will give me something in return đŚ
but he only gave it the first time i gave it to him
o well at least i know achilles backstory
yes im a guy simping for achilles
runic cipher
Eventually youâll be given something else from him! You havent wasted them just be patient đ
thorny crescent
You only get keepsakes the first time you give someone nectar
sour light
real edge
Its good to hear
thorny crescent
Ok
severe flare
but he only gave it the first time i gave it to him
Keep giving Patroclus and him Nectar. Then do him a favor. Then give him Ambrosia. You'll get something much much better.
carmine ravine
You only get keepsakes the first time you give someone nectar
i mean technically theres 1 character than u have to give 2 nectars
faint flint
why is the spear special return SO SLOW
carmine ravine
then just use the hidden spear, doesnt return at all
faint flint
i use whichever has the darkness bonus
thorny crescent
then just donât use the spear and you wonât have these kinds of problems
thorny crescent
The spear is just garbage in general
faint flint
i was talking earliee about how it cant dash strike
thorny crescent
Achilles is the only one that makes it bearable
severe flare
Yeah, low HP, die easily, right?
faint flint
spear special is garbage
thorny crescent
Guan Yu can be very broken with certain hammers
carmine ravine
u guys rly undermining serrated point
faint flint
hidden aspect cant dash to save its life
thorny crescent
yes it can
carmine ravine
Guan Yu can be very broken with certain hammers
hidden aspects is poilers, tag the names
faint flint
like im hitting stuff
thorny crescent
no
thorny crescent
Then just dash strike
faint flint
which is also stupid slow on spear for crap damage
carmine ravine
just tag it next time, its in the rules @thorny crescent
thorny crescent
ok
severe flare
Try Flurry Jab with Drunken Strike. I beat Charon in Tartarus easily. You shouldn't stand near your enemies, always.
carmine ravine
spear is my least fav wep but i want say its anywhere close as bad
faint flint
i swear its broken
thorny crescent
Or stuff like hangover
faint flint
why would spear be good with hangover
carmine ravine
however it is important to note that hidden spear is just unsuitable for high heat
carmine ravine
i prefer hades aspect
thorny crescent
And itâs overall very high damage
faint flint
unfortunately i have to do that achievement thing for the rewards
severe flare
hangover wants fast attacks
Get Flurry Jab
carmine ravine
its fine if u dont like charging, at least its faster and bigger in hades aspect
faint flint
Get Flurry Jab
yes because i can just magically get the hammer upgrade of my choice every time
carmine ravine
good mobility yes
thorny crescent
Like you canât go for cast builds with Hades aspect
carmine ravine
and 150 bonus
rustic valve
I've actually never gotten flurry jab yet
carmine ravine
eris is global bonus, archilles isnt
thorny crescent
Achilles still is global bonus
rustic valve
it's the one hammer upgrade I've literally never seen so far xD
thorny crescent
It increases your cast damage thatâs for sure
faint flint
it's odd how people say "just get x upgrade*
carmine ravine
and eris special is just ez game, paired with rapid zeus buffable atk
rustic valve
But I just checked, and I can dash fine with the spear in any form
faint flint
as if it miraculously snaps your rng into existence
rustic valve
so if you can't, you might wanna file a bug report
because that's definitely borked
severe flare
it's the one hammer upgrade I've literally _never_ seen so far xD
Here you are. It's incompatible with...
https://hades.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Spear
thorny crescent
I hate the fists for example but some of my best runs were with them
carmine ravine
as if it miraculously snaps your rng into existence
u control rng with rarity enhancements, keepsakes and fated persuasion
faint flint
i hope it gets patched or something
thorny crescent
I hate how low range they are
carmine ravine
undestandable
rustic valve
Here you are. It's incompatible with...
https://hades.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Spea...
thanks, I know that, actually, and have been trying Zag aspect - but still haven't encountered it xD
severe flare
Play more
rustic valve
(just a few more runs, I guess - but it's just funny to me that I've seen everything else multiple times and that one just... not.)
carmine ravine
zeus and dire misfortune is the way for normal fist aspects
thorny crescent
I actually prefer normal aspects over secret aspects
severe flare
(just a few more runs, I guess - but it's just funny to me that I've seen everyt...
I was in your situation, too. Need to play a lot.
thorny crescent
Secret aspects feel very clunky apart from maybe the fists or the gun
carmine ravine
eh the only hidden aspects that i dislike is hidden spear and hidden rail
but they arent bad per se
rustic valve
Spear is the weapon I struggle with most, so have used the least.
severe flare
eh the only hidden aspects that i dislike is hidden spear and hidden rail
Try Divine Flourish with hidden Rail. Very funny.
faint flint
so if you can't, you might wanna file a bug report
Dashes can be performed between the Attack inputs without interrupting the combo
I mean this part of the combo
i cant seem to do it
carmine ravine
nah, i prefer going 4k crits on my rail special @severe flare
faint flint
maybe I'm just bad at controls lol
thorny crescent
Probably
carmine ravine
use controller, feel smoother
faint flint
only option for me is controller
thorny crescent
I remapped all of the buttons on KBM
severe flare
Xbox One controller
faint flint
since i play on switch
rustic valve
``Dashes can be performed between the Attack inputs without interrupting the com...
isn't that Sword 4?
carmine ravine
switch i felt is too smol imo
rustic valve
Rather than Spear 4?
faint flint
thats spear 4
thorny crescent
Thatâs cool and all but can I mention that the witch circle is the hardest room in the entire game
carmine ravine
not if u got divine dash
thorny crescent
You donât always get divine dash
carmine ravine
then make sure u always get it
thorny crescent
Sometimes you go for duos and get this
rustic valve
For the Spear, I can only dash and strike in-between hits 2 and 3
brisk trail
witch circle more like
severe flare
Thatâs cool and all but can I mention that the witch circle is the hardest room ...
Your attack can destroy their balls
faint flint
has the switch version gotten any patches?
brisk trail
throw caution to the wind and kill all of them quickly
faint flint
``Infernal Arms, Aspects, & Abilities
- Eternal Spear (XX Aspect): increased attack damage; improved attack input buffering (you now can Dash between strikes)``
carmine ravine
the witchs is just ez kil with ||rama||
rustic valve
No, the Switch version is behind on patches.
thorny crescent
Your attack can destroy their balls
Slow weapons be like
faint flint
that explains a lot
rustic valve
Yeah, that'll do it - and I'm sorry I misunderstood earlier.
I didn't realize it was supposed to be more like Sword 4
brisk trail
yooo i got heart rend in tartarus
now i force athena and get dash
this is the run
i can feel it
severe flare
Slow weapons be like
Which one?
thorny crescent
You ever just go for hidden sword runs and just die miserably on the witch room
severe flare
Never dies
Spamming ||Aura||
When the balls comes to the ||Aura||, they're very very slow. I destroy them all with attacks.
brisk trail
wait, i never thought about it but is batty AoE always horizontal? never vertical?
carmine ravine
how can you even die with hidden sword massive aoe
brisk trail
overwhelmed by fast enemies
severe flare
He forgot to use the ||aura||
rustic valve
wait, i never thought about it but is batty AoE always horizontal? never vertica...
no, it's not. It's not consistent but chances are that it's perpendicular to the direction you're looking at.
carmine ravine
u can use the second and third part of the strikes even after dashing, so u can dash atk 3-4 times and stil get the crit
and the sword swings already enough to clear the balls
brisk trail
alright, thanks
i can't seem to meg fo2 power couple correctly
fo1 speeder flame wheels r what killed my hidden sord streak
its largely my fault for taking ruthless reflex but whatever
carmine ravine
pray to rng and hope u get flame wheels release
brisk trail
ive gotten that like 2 times out of 100 runs
carmine ravine
ye its very rare
brisk trail
so I will not be banking on it
carmine ravine
i prefer ruthless since it makes me a better player
since u need to time ur doge and get rewarded with it
brisk trail
I prefer greatest reflex because a lot of the game is designed for 2 dashes
and +50% additive dmg is nothing lol
carmine ravine
u know u can dodge anything with iframes right
slim grail
i finally beaten hades the second time! omg this god srsly is such a godsend. she is so op and help me alot during all of these tough fight. you guys should use her call!
carmine ravine
and +50% additive dmg is nothing lol
is +50 dmg and dodge chance
slim grail
well 2 gods , one use for call the other for boons
i highly recommend these two if any of u having a hard time in hades
brisk trail
with ruthless youre forced to time your dash
with greatest you can either time your dash or get out of the attacks range
I like having options
y'all ever taken triple shot on chiron?
how does that work
carmine ravine
or u know, u can just get ruthless and a hermes boon
brisk trail
you don't always get the hermes boon
carmine ravine
u always get it with persuasion
brisk trail
nop
carmine ravine
kek
brisk trail
I used ruthless for like 20 runs cause I thought it was good
did not like how reliant on hermes I was
carmine ravine
i used ruthless for 120 successful runs
brisk trail
cool
rustic valve
Can anyone explain to me how the Hermes boon works that give bonus damage from speed?
severe flare
Do you use high confidence?
rustic valve
Like, is it relative to the bonus speed you have?
severe flare
Anyone?
brisk trail
I use it sometimes
like it on boonless runs
yeah myrion
if u have +30% movement speed and a rush delivery thats +50%, you get 15% bonus dmg
carmine ravine
Can anyone explain to me how the Hermes boon works that give bonus damage from s...
eh mostly use it if u going a full plume run i guess
brisk trail
hidden sword is the freest high confidence ever
rustic valve
if u have +30% movement speed and a rush delivery thats +50%, you get 15% bonus ...
AHHH, so it's x% of any bonus speed I have? Thank you!
rustic valve
eh mostly use it if u going a full plume run i guess
I assumed that, but I couldn't make sense of how it works đ
carmine ravine
yeah i used to use thick skin now i prefer high confidence mor
rustic valve
So gotta have full plume, maybe zag sword and the hermes speed bonus, huh? I wonder if it becomes relevant then.
Might give that a try
carmine ravine
plume alredy gib big survivability, use it with any wep
its like that dio fountain bonus dmg boon
just some extra dmg, just like ares dmg boon
rustic valve
I'm just curious to see how far I can take Rush Delivery.
The Dio fountain boon is pretty nice, since it doesn't cover anything that's better, usually. But from hermes, I'd rather have dashes or the attack/special/cast speed, depending on build.
carmine ravine
yeah makes sens, altho the atk/sp/cast build sometimes does nothing for me
brisk trail
big fan of dodge chance from hermes
like thanks for the 20% damage resistance lolll
I wanna see heroic flurry cast w crush shot
rustic valve
big fan of dodge chance from hermes
oh yeah, or that!
slim grail
who is the last person for me to give my nectar to? i thought it was zag mom but she doesn't have that option
severe flare
Hades?
carmine ravine
||u can give zag mom nectars||
severe flare
When she ||has returned|| you can give her
carmine ravine
||her keepsake is pom flowers||
slim grail
||u can give zag mom nectars||
||what how? when i reach the surface... there's no option. am i missing something?||
languid plover
||what how? when i reach the surface... there's no option. am i missing somethin...
ever play TBOI? It is the same thing
Beat the game more to know~
rustic valve
Hah, after bashing the spear repeatedly, I just had a Zag Spear run with Exploding Breaching Skewer that worked pretty well
Still no Flurry Jab though xD
proper karma
I literally have one suggestion for the game. Feather Duster auto-breaks all pots on the level. As a small buff to it.
brisk trail
quick spin hades makes spear bearable
slim grail
spear is indeed op in this game. spear + poseidon boons are just chef kiss
rustic valve
oO The spear is overall considered to be pretty weak outside of Achilles aspect, I thought
Quick Spin helps, for sure
next sphinx
I accidentally switched from Lambent Plume to a different keepsake noooo
brisk trail
rip
next sphinx
(I also didnât realize until the a couple rooms afterwards le sigh)
brisk trail
well there's always next run
next sphinx
True, itâs definitely not the end of the world, just donât like that kicking myself feeling haha
brave dove
zag : i wanna get out!
also zag : eats loads of poms
nicee i just got the athena ares duo boon
time to spam special and attack for instant doom dmg
severe flare
I listened to this song. I feel so sad when I see Zag dies.
It's like Zag in early game, tortured and abused by his daddy.
brave dove
so wasnt it a max of 4 gods u can get boons from per run?
i have artermis, athena,zeus,ares and now getting hermes
empty flame
you can force more using the god keepsakes and hermes acts more like a hammer than a god in terms of gameplay
livid cargo
I think you can get hermes whebever
empty flame
iirc he appears a maximum of twice(thrice if you get him in the Styx Shop if memory serves correct)
brave dove
i havent used any keepsakes to force
empty flame
Hermes isn't part of the 4 gods you get boons from as his boons act like a Daedalus Hammer, if I'm remembering correctly
brave dove
ohh
brisk trail
Im starting a run in hades rn
brave dove
||TINY VERMIN GOD SAVE ME||
rustic valve
nope
brisk trail
Damn
slim grail
wow.. aphrodite calls are soo freaking op and awesome! she helped me so much throughout the gameplay
im gonna simp, idc
brave dove
ye the full gauge call does LOADS of dmg
DELETE da Hyda
DELETE Thesus' second phase
severe flare
Too hard
This game is easy. Just hit and run. Like: Attack 1 2 3 4, run; attack 1 2 3 4, run; and repeat...
brisk trail
Problem is
brave dove
and also ur not gonna beat the game first try
brisk trail
My keyboard sucka
brave dove
gotta keep at it.... oh
brisk trail
and also ur not gonna beat the game first try
I already know
severe flare
get a Xbox controller
brave dove
sucks how?
severe flare
I have a Xbox One S controller
brisk trail
Xbox one controller too expensive
brave dove
though if u play enough on Kbm u should get used to it
brisk trail
though if u play enough on Kbm u should get used to it
I got used to it, but i suck at the game
severe flare
I was in the beginning too.
It took me months to get used to use Controller
I played 1 hr per day
severe flare
deep breath before fighting boss
severe flare
turn on god mode, maybe?
brisk trail
Im coming back to hades later
brisk trail
turn on god mode, maybe?
No cheats
brave dove
well.. its not a cheat
empty flame
or the fists
brisk trail
try the bow and the rail gun
Oh wait, im good with a bow, i guess im coming back
languid plover
Bow, Rail Gun and Shield is friendly for less experienced player
empty flame
try all the weapons and check which one works with you
brisk trail
or the fists
Imma try to get that
brave dove
athena ares duo with the impending doom
brisk trail
try all the weapons and check which one works with you
Bow does
languid plover
holy this build op
with Fists?
brave dove
and another boon where if u stack dooms it does more dmg
void ginkgo
Gun is great with some good hammers. I also like spear
brave dove
so i stack loads of doom and use the attack to insta get the doom
empty flame
the godroll of ME
brave dove
with sword 4
languid plover
Other weapon special is too slow or can't combined repeatedly with attack
oh Sword...
empty flame
ME still rolls damage thankfully
languid plover
||Aspect of Arthur|| on top of that?
languid plover
oof
slim grail
if you really need help, remember aphrodite calls is just what you need
brave dove
||also using artermis call on Hades basically like calling a god to snipe another god||
aphro and arty calls are basically the same
but on average aphro has better dmg
and stuns bosses
arty can have better dmg at times depending on crit roll
slim grail
and stuns bosses
what? this is new.... LOL i dont know that
guess everytime i use aphro, she always kills bosses
languid plover
what? this is new.... LOL i dont know that
"Charm" mechanic "stun" bosses
brave dove
unless ur fighting asterius and thesus
then asterius punchs thesus
which is fun to see
slim grail
i need to use that on asterius boss fight lol
brave dove
||also summon skelly atleast once on ever boss just for the dialogue lol||
slim grail
hmm i dont wanna use aphrodite calls on most of my runs, feels like cheating. I need to use other gods calls one day
slim grail
poseidon call is bad imo
surfs up dude!
slim grail
like how poseidon legen is bad
yea. poseidon boons are great tho but not the others
empty flame
like half of the reason I like getting Poseidon is Sea Storm
because more lightning is fun and cool
and stuff
slim grail
like half of the reason I like getting Poseidon is Sea Storm
i didnt get that. is taht combo with zeus boons?
empty flame
Duo with Zeus boon
molten nymph
but its not a bad boon
brave dove
||YEEET HADES GIVES U A KEEPSAKE I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING OFF WHEN I DIDNT GET THE ACHIEVEMENT FOR ALL KEEPSAKES||
zeus call is just consistent lightning strikes
pair it with the thing where its a %chance for double lightning and its better
empty flame
for me my favorite boons are Zeus and Athena, Zeus to just pile on damage, and Athena to invuln my way through harder fights
brave dove
||how good is sigil of the dead?||
slim grail
i've been on this server quite alot and lots of complimenting different gods here but no one mention ares. give ares some love đŚ
empty flame
||how good is sigil of the dead?||
it was really really good for speedrunning since it gave you an extra amount of damage from your first attack out of unseen
empty flame
from highest to lowest ||Bow, Shield, Sword, Rail, Spear, Fist||
languid plover
i've been on this server quite alot and lots of complimenting different gods her...
nah, all damage and no utility at all
empty flame
very core to merciful end builds which are all about damage
also hunting blades and those stuff are fun to play with
but yeah, he provides not a lot of defensive boons unlike say Dio or Aphro
rustic valve
Ares is nice on something you only use rarely, unless you go full merciful end, curse of longing or vengeful mood
brave dove
||wuts does the shield and fist aspect do?||
rustic valve
The blades are... not so good, afaict
empty flame
Curse of Nausea is also a good nab for hangover builds
rustic valve
True
empty flame
are they good? not really are they fun? spinny blade go BRRRRR
slim grail
yaaa. at first the visual of those blades when i cast seems cool and i thought it was deadly but... it didnt really help me much =/.. idk if its just me or what
cmon ares
but his attack boons are quite dope tho
rustic valve
The call is nice, much like Poseidon, if you just want the extra survivability
empty flame
||wuts does the shield and fist aspect do?||
||shield is a cast aspect that activates your casts when you bull rush, fists I havent really played with||
languid plover
In order for Ares to feel strong, he needs lot of investment
languid plover
doom stacking is only good on 2nd and 4th bow, Rail and Fist
rustic valve
I like Ares special on ||Rama||, because I'll quickly tag every enemy with the special, which gets a massive damage upgrade that way, but otherwise I rely on the attack
empty flame
||Huh how does it like activate the cast?||
||at the end of the bull rush, it fires in a flare around you, except for Dio and Ares wherein they get launched in front of you||
thorny crescent
Aresâ duos tho
rustic valve
||Huh how does it like activate the cast?||
||at the end of the rush, it fires from your position, a bit similar to Hera bow||
languid plover
I like Ares special on ||Rama||, because I'll quickly tag every enemy with the s...
yes from my experience, Ares Doom stacking on 4th bow gives better output than 4th Rail
brave dove
||ooo but itâs just cast so whys it high up?||
rustic valve
Because the casts are pretty strong
languid plover
yes from my experience, Ares Doom stacking on 4th bow gives better output than 4...
haven't had any luck with 2nd bow tho
rustic valve
Cast builds are fun
empty flame
pretty much ^
brave dove
I should cast more then
rustic valve
I like to take Hera, Dio cast and stack as much as I can on there for painful fog
empty flame
Casts scale well with Poms, offer unique gameplay depending on casts, and deal good damage
brave dove
So far only times I cast are to do extra dmg from afar to bosses
And also the extra dmg when the stone is in the boss
languid plover
I like to take Hera, Dio cast and stack as much as I can on there for _painful_ ...
perma-stunned lol
rustic valve
if I can get Scintillating Feast, Ice Wine and Jolted, that's an easy way to get Privileged Status going and does a lot of damage
languid plover
Casts scale well with Poms, offer unique gameplay depending on casts, and deal g...
apply for Artemis cast build too?
rustic valve
And sometimes I even get Lightning Rod - so until I pick my casts back up, it's even more lightning
Not super efficient, but a lot of fun^^
empty flame
Pretty much
brisk trail
yaaa. at first the visual of those blades when i cast seems cool and i thought i...
||yeah, for ares to work, you'd need at least the following.
Doom Strat:
Curse of Agony
Dire Misfortune
Impending Doom
Blade Rush Strat:
Slicing Shot
Blade Dash
Black Metal
Engulfing Vortex
There's duo boons you can get that help either of the above, but all in all, Ares is quite a heavy investment in order to make work properly.||
empty flame
Most of my cast runs have been Aphro though so can't say
languid plover
And sometimes I even get Lightning Rod - so until I pick my casts back up, it's ...
had fun with 4th shield, Lightning Rod and Extra 3 Cast from Artemis and Chaos
I just charge all my cast, release, then just sit there and block lol
errh
rich fog
Whenever I try to do a cast run I straight up forget to even use my cast for half the run
empty flame
Then again you can try whatever combination of boons you like in this game
rich fog
They're a lot of fun tho
empty flame
There's Crystal Beam if you wanna meme it up
rustic valve
Artemis cast is, imo, the weakest right along Ares'.
Because both of these just don't do enough
brave dove
Meanwhile thereâs that person who did a revenge run
thorny crescent
Cast runs only really work if you have some sorta cast based aspect
empty flame
I recommend the Beam with Poseidon Sword or Talos Fists
rich fog
Oh lord I don't even know how they managed to do that revenge run
rustic valve
Crystal Beam is actually kinda fun to just set up and not have to bother much
cast early in a room, let it do its thing
brave dove
Wut Poseidon sword do again
rich fog
Yep
rustic valve
+50% cast damage at max
brave dove
Ooo
rich fog
And special dislodges bloodstones
brave dove
OOOO
rustic valve
I haven't yet figured out how to properly use the duo that makes the crystal fire at you
languid plover
Also had a run when I want to invest on Poseidon cast build with 3rd sword (the cast one), also with keepsake from birth mom...
I never have a good purge option so my Cast suck and it turned into 4000 obol Hoarding Slash run...
Damn
brave dove
So if u pair it with dmg upon dislodging.....
rich fog
Yep
rustic valve
Yeah, Poseidon sword can work pretty well
languid plover
If only I went with fully leveled Zagreus aspect that time
rustic valve
noooo
rich fog
Also don't even get me started on that duo boon
rustic valve
That seems like the most confusing one to use
rich fog
I was doing a cast run with crystal beam once, wanted to get Artemis' duo, got that one instead
rustic valve
Does it also need parting shot, so you set up three beams behind a boss?
rustic valve
haha, yeah, that's why I grabbed it once too
rich fog
Yknow I can see it slightly synergizing with hera's bow
rich fog
Cast is loaded into the next shot
Can stack up too so it can make for a great phat piece of burst damage
rustic valve
Hm, so you can more easily place it away from yourself?
rich fog
Mhm
rustic valve
Worth a shot badumtss
rich fog
Har har
languid plover
Cast is loaded into the next shot
I haven't give a try with Hera. Will be next time
anyway, fully leveled basic bow the best for boonless run?
rich fog
One thing I'd like to try again is going for a dodge run with aspect of zagreus
rustic valve
I haven't tried, but either Zag Bow, Zag Sword (fast attack +100% damage, could work?) or Eris, I think
brave dove
Sword 4 boonless?
rich fog
Last time I went for one I absolutely destroyed everything in my path
languid plover
One thing I'd like to try again is going for a dodge run with aspect of zagreus
Fists?
brave dove
With shackled
rich fog
Sword
wet sierra
IMPORTANT QUESTION: If there is a "Barge of Death" in Asphodel, does it mean it is/was owned by Thanatos? 
dry plover
How to beat hades at his extreme measures?
wet sierra
Hit him until he dies.
dry plover
I feel like playing sekiro when versus the beast monkey
molten nymph
...basically, yeah
dry plover
I put down ma controller... Boom 3rd phase wtf
molten nymph
btw spoil the boss name because SGG don't want anyone to find out who that is
brisk trail
he ||heals from the pots||
molten nymph
3rd phase isn't that much different from 2nd i feel, its mostly the habits from nonEM fight that got me
"ok, now i attack here--- oh wait extra spin"
brisk trail
@wet sierra It's actually an ascended meme. Earlier versions of the boat with Middle Management spawned a truly ridiculous number of Bloodless and players took to calling it "murderboat."
molten nymph
lmao really?
i love MM murderboat now
wet sierra
A single throwaway line of it "being useless since he can teleport and it's not his style" would make my day.
brisk trail
I've run very very little MM since 1.0. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the super Voidstone.
molten nymph
MM murderboat imo is faster and easier than non MM
gotta waste a ||summon|| on the crystal though
twilit wraith
What's the similar looking Nectar bottle in the game apart from ambrosia?
It has a skull face on it
flat vapor
<@!351048187106295808> It's actually an ascended meme. Earlier versions of the b...
my new petition is to bring back old murderboat
specifically pre-heat rework murderboat
brisk trail
Oh, god, I don't remember what it was like that long ago.
flat vapor
we didn't appreciate what we had back then đ
twilit wraith
This one which is on the right boat? What is it?
flat vapor
it was an actually difficult base barge, what with all the hordes of bloodless on it
twilit wraith
Ahhh thanks
flat vapor
đ
tacit ember
depends on waht chamber ur on but ok
brisk trail
You mean in reference to the picture above?
The Mario Party sack with a skull on it is always a shop.
rose nexus
tacit ember
The Mario Party sack with a skull on it is always a shop.
yes but i mean if ur in like the first chamber in asphodel maby no pick shop because why even?
brisk trail
They were asking what the door led to, not asking which they should take.
green maple
^
tacit ember
ahha
how would someone be in asphodel and has never been in a shop befor
they are even using gun
opaque nexus
is it not possible for the first combat room of a biome to be a fountain
I don't think I have ever seen it
nocturne copper
killed myself in a trap
styx traps are BRUTAL
rustic valve
but so helpful in killing the giant rat
it has tons of HP but the traps help chew through those quite a bit at 600 per hit
shell spade
@quiet gull random path between 2 and 5 in will have the fountain and sack
brisk trail
What's the best ||Companion|| and who do I need to gift to get it?
okay i downloaded discord on the pc i play hades on
molten nymph
my fav is ||meg's||
brisk trail
let us see if it gives my statues of playing it
I've seen people suggest ||Bouldy|| is the best before.
check it out, it doesn't give a status of playing it !
rustic valve
||Than, if you can get the timing right (I can't), Meg, Bouldy (extra survivability, yeahhh).|| I wish ||Dusa's|| was any good, though.
molten nymph
||bouldy|| is the best to survive a run, ||Meg|| is the best to do things quickly
quiet gull
<@105734587031777280> random path between 2 and 5 in will have the fountain and ...
We were talking about mid-biome fountains, not Styx but go off
brisk trail
Which between ||Bouldy|| and ||Meg|| is easier to get?
rustic valve
That you only need to gift to one character.
||Sisyphus for Bouldy and Meg for Battie||
pliant sparrow
||i thought u had to gift to bouldy as well to unlock sisyphus interaction||
wait nvm
the favor for meg is easier tho
shell spade
We were talking about mid-biome fountains, not Styx but go off
My b
rustic valve
the favor for meg is easier tho
Yeah, that's fair
brisk trail
the favor for meg is easier tho
Time to try to do Meg I guess.
sage depot
Washington Post named Hades their GOTY ^_^ feelsgoodman
molten nymph
bow
olive wind
i usually use aegis, it's frankly the easiest to use on my end
red tiger
Fists
red tiger
Zag fists specifically with plume
olive wind
i'm trying out the zeus aspect and it's working really well honestly
pulsar hemlock
What's this about? https://prnt.sc/vxp6np
molten nymph
i can't seem to pilot zeus shield properly
red tiger
Just select the top one unless your computer is poopy
molten nymph
its hard to get the shield to where you want it to be
pulsar hemlock
Okay
red tiger
i'm trying out the zeus aspect and it's working really well honestly
Keep trying to get the hammer that lets you do more damage on attack every time after your special hits
Forget the name
olive wind
Keep trying to get the hammer that lets you do more damage on attack every time ...
i'll keep that in mind, ty
tacit ember
does special dash hamer bonus aply to the extra shilds from aspect of chaos
olive wind
yeah i cant remember either but i'll keep an eye out
tacit ember
dud why do u care about my spelling
molten nymph
it doesn't iirc
olive wind
molten nymph
yeah
past wyvern
The shield gotta be my fav
molten nymph
eris is probably still the best weapon in game but i don't enjoy it that much for some reason
tacit ember
if u get rocket and cluster
u do big shotgundamage
with special
if u get aphrospecial and artumus preashurpoints u can crit for like 8000
olive wind
yeah i tried it and learned i was terrible at aiming it lmao. might try it again sometime though
molten nymph
not even the aiming
molten nymph
i just didn't like the flow
the weird break you have because your dash ends before the reload ends
olive wind
oh i use mac but ty. i might get a pc at some point so i'll keep that in mind
tacit ember
what do u mean with dash ting
dud if u have a good run wiht eris u ur primary attack is completly obsolete
u can spam q and deleat the room
molten nymph
uhh
distant night
depends on the cast
molten nymph
i don't like to rely on a specific hammer combination
distant night
well thats totally fine _Meh
tacit ember
still eirs gives like big attack boost
vast cypress
you can cover your reload with special
tacit ember
not just attack everything
tacit ember
yes i do that
distant night
it's just that Eris is special because of its special to getting hammer upgrades on it it's really great
tacit ember
*try to
molten nymph
my flow is usually attack -> reload -> special -> dash
tacit ember
u can spacial while reloading
molten nymph
but there's still a few seconds after the second dash where i'm still reloading
distant night
so hestia would be more your playstyle?
molten nymph
idk, i really don't like the delay the reload makes
which is why i'm sticking with bows
brisk trail
well its a reload
distant night
understandable
molten nymph
ye
distant night
you can special while reloading if its such a bother
tacit ember
side note
vast cypress
do you shoot to 0?
tacit ember
achilly's spear is so good for cast build
molten nymph
nah, never
tacit ember
insert crystalmeme
brisk trail
inch resting
molten nymph
the squence is a cancel to cancel
distant night
but eh i think in the end you only need like 2 rail runs for prophecies (minus hammer upgrades and was there a prophecy for beating a run with all aspects?)
tacit ember
||lusifer ||has a infenet amo hamer
distant night
so does normal rail
molten nymph
oh yeah
molten nymph
if i get delta chamber
tacit ember
the 3 shot ting
tacit ember
its not good
brisk trail
turn ya brain off
tacit ember
i think rapid attacks r better than 3 shots att a time
distant night
delta chamber is weird with hestia since it can break the whole aspect?
vast cypress
the moments when you forget that rail does not stagger
distant night
the thing i hate the most about rail lol
tacit ember
huat is a stagger
distant night
stun enemies
tacit ember
ahha
distant night
but bow doesnt either i believe
tacit ember
spacial does i think
thorny crescent
The list of fated whatever it is
molten nymph
hey it might not be good
brisk trail
I think it would b even more broken if it didnt
thorny crescent
I such a pain
brisk trail
bow does
tacit ember
also bow special does
molten nymph
but it makes the weapon flow so much better for me
thorny crescent
I hate some of them so much
tacit ember
chiron op?
olive wind
The list of fated whatever it is
fated prophecies? yeah
distant night
I hate some of them so much
what do you mean?
thorny crescent
I hate the one that forces you to pick different mirror upgrades
distant night
the hammertime prophecies?
olive wind
merry crisis
distant night
well you dont have to do it early on
molten nymph
i never bothered with the phropecies
thorny crescent
thereâs a reason why nobody uses the other dash upgrade
tacit ember
i got my first clear by going for the profesys
distant night
i never bothered with the phropecies
what do you bother with in hades o.o
thorny crescent
Because itâs absolute garbage
tacit ember
i never tryed them but they turned out to be realy good
thorny crescent
And should never be used
molten nymph
what do you bother with in hades o.o
dating sim
interior design simulator
distant night
whelp
thorny crescent
dating sim
interior design simulator
Ah,I see youâre a man of culture as well
distant night
dating sim
interior design simulator
i forgot the running and gunning was only the side-game
thorny crescent
I,too,play it like sims 4
olive wind
dating sim
interior design simulator
escaping responsibilities is a big one for me
thorny crescent
Youâre all lying if you say youâre there for the killing stuff part
tacit ember
hades is basicaly dating sim with brakes of violence and carnage
distant night
nobody plays sims 4, we only design, change my mind
thorny crescent
Everyone is there for the dating and for the sims 4
molten nymph
look man, the amount of relief i get when i finally replaced the ugly crystal pillar with the golden statue is just 
proven obsidian
hades is basicaly dating sim with brakes of violence and carnage
Acceptable.
distant night
i love that there is dialogue about you designing the interior
tacit ember
u mean the one is the court yard
distant night
like if father dearest isnt there to talk smack about my choices i wont be investing my gems, sry house contractor
thorny crescent
Also hi Artemisâ cat I didnât notice it was you
rancid berry
what are the base % rarities for boons
thorny crescent
House contractor is like the biggest bro
distant night
omg dio you changed your pfp hi!
rancid berry
I just learned u only get heoric by exchanging an epic
distant night
House contractor is like the biggest bro
shadebro - house contractor - resource manager
thorny crescent
I just learned u only get heoric by exchanging an epic
Rare crop
molten nymph
the change to dad's chair is barely visible
rancid berry
yeah I mean find in menu
molten nymph
but i did it entirely to piss him off
distant night
hehe
molten nymph
i like imagining the contractor going to work while dad is still on the chair
rancid berry
u can also get it from eurydice if we're talking semantics
distant night
if you dont play the game to piss father dearest off, are you really playing the game?
tacit ember
why can u not sittdown on anyting
olive wind
like if father dearest isnt there to talk smack about my choices i wont be inves...
yeah like have you seen his dialogue when you add the fireplace? it's like the memes of when you touch the thermostat and your dad notices lmao
distant night
yeS
tacit ember
i would especialy like to sit on dads chair and see what he says
tacit ember
u cant
thorny crescent
if you dont play the game to piss father dearest off, are you really playing the...
People who play the game to romance death itself:
distant night
and neither was zag đ
olive wind
let the boy sit
distant night
he would notice how comfortable it is and become a professional gamer
tacit ember
Hades: throws zag into asphodel with no wepon
thorny crescent
Kratos đ¤Hades
Calling their son âboiâ
tacit ember
both are big buff duds
olive wind
both have dad beards!
distant night
every day i wake up and wonder, did hades get birthed with his moustache for it to be the sygil of the underworld?
brisk trail
zag: *dies*
hades: 
olive wind
every day i wake up and wonder, did hades get birthed with his moustache for it ...
whoever built the underworld just being like "hey boss you know what would be hilarious-"
distant night
whoever built the underworld just being like "hey boss you know what would be *h...
YES PLEASE
thorny crescent
ay boyo
distant night
what if it was chaos pranking hades
tacit ember
i need no know
olive wind
skelly made the underworld sigils, send tweet
thorny crescent
skelly made the underworld sigils, send tweet
Itâs totally something that Skelly would do,letâs be honest
distant night
how do i findout who hired skelly
get him hermes and achilles to talk about him
tacit ember
so how?
distant night
nectar
tacit ember
hermys talked about him once
distant night
exhausting the dialogue pool
olive wind
oh so that tooth comment was important
thorny crescent
Nector
tacit ember
same with skelly
distant night
it's the first time hermes talks about skelly
brisk trail
(chanting) teeth! teeth! teeth! teeth! teeth!
olive wind
s l u r p
olive wind
eat it. eat the bottle
olive wind
consume the whole bottle
distant night
she can keep the whole house of hades clean
pliant sparrow
Do it or no balls
Yah im p sure dusa has no balls
distant night
her power too strong to open a fragile bottle
tacit ember
after u do the launge thing she sayed she has extre time to do stuf
olive wind
Yah im p sure dusa has no balls
from a technical stance, yes probably
thorny crescent
She has bigger balls than you and your entire lineage @pliant sparrow
donât you dare insult Dusa like that
nocturne copper
she IS a bal
thorny crescent
EXACTLY
olive wind
Ăśrb
nocturne copper
pensive
tacit ember
jag gillar potatis
distant night
what
olive wind
jag gillar potatis.
thorny crescent
what do you not get
tacit ember
its sweden language
thorny crescent
Itâs simple
distant night
she doesnt have a ball she IS the ball
tacit ember
jag gillar potatis
thorny crescent
javla fitta
tacit ember
bruh
distant night
.--.
thorny crescent
she doesnt have a ball she IS the ball
Still huge
distant night
yes
olive wind
dont
distant night
sigh
thorny crescent
Wtf
distant night
enough internet for the day
heavy fossil
thorny crescent
distant night
noo dio dont leave me
thorny crescent
That wasnât for myself
distant night
oh good
olive wind
aight imma head out
thorny crescent
I didnât need to see that cat gif
distant night
you had me worried for a second
thorny crescent
Itâs so cursed
distant night
me even less ;-;
heavy fossil
thorny crescent
That poor kitty
olive wind
bwuh
distant night
<:dusa:522248771409543188> <:dusa:522248771409543188> <:dusa:522248771409543188>...
i never noticed that the snakes make perfect balls
thorny crescent
What did you say?
thorny crescent
Maybe the link is called ân word disappearâ or something
olive wind
yeah maybe
distant night
sigh
thorny crescent
True though
thorny crescent
I know a lot of people who say the n word unironically like all the time and donât see a problem with it
distant night
thorny crescent
Which is a bad thing
distant night
lets get past this
thorny crescent
Yes pls
distant night
and keep hitting these people with the power of boons and anime on your side
dusa bae
thorny crescent
Dusa is just the sweetest
distant night
maid dusa bae
thorny crescent
Sheâs a better friend to Zag than all of my irl friends to me
distant night
i recently told a friend of mine about maid-dusa
distant night
shade bro
distant night
dusa best gorgon
tacit ember
shadebro is number 0
tacit ember
dusa number one
distant night
where is cerby baby
thorny crescent
Me and my dad discussed that Medusa is actually the strongest villain
Ever
Because she looks at you and youâre done
distant night
you look at her and you're done
thorny crescent
Does that mean Dusa is also that powerful
distant night
not the other way round