h1-discussion

[chilly slate]

just boopin around the field and hitting. boop and hit.

[dry veldt]

WHO IS THE GUY I NEED TO GIVE THIS LAST NECTAR TO
where is he

Is he in styx

Is he the narrator

I want the last keepsake

[astral swift]

Oh for keepsakes?

Keep playing

[vast cypress]

Keep escaping

[dry veldt]

he's the narrator isn't he

Or maybe da woman

[astral swift]

Could be The Chef too

[dry veldt]

Nah the chef and I have a simple relationship

Fish

[vast cypress]

Contractor

[astral swift]

Or Wretched Broker

[dry veldt]

No thoughts, only fish

[astral swift]

Maybe our Good Shade

[chilly slate]

chef is the mf GOAT and nobody can tell me otherwise

[rare oasis]

Hahaha

[dry veldt]

Good shades don't turn their back on the homies

[chilly slate]

nobody is born cool, except of course

(good shade)

(head chef)

[dry veldt]

Was* born cool
They dead as hell now
Nobody cool when they dead, except of course

[astral swift]

Forgot the ultimate OG

[chilly slate]

bouldy is abiotic

[winter harbor]

Bouldy believes in you

[scenic drum]

Curious if anyone knows if Supergiant have any plans for a switch physical release?

[chilly slate]

never alive so can never be dead

i don't think they've ever had a physical release?

[brisk trail]

Nothing announced, Kurthrus.

[winter harbor]

bouldy is alive enough to sisyphus

[dry veldt]

Sisyphus like "tf is than gonna do, make me suffer more? I'm in Tartarus lmfao"

Such a lad

[chilly slate]

bouldy's alive enough to believe in me

[brisk trail]

There have been a few physical releases in the past.

[rare oasis]

Bouldy is my bro!

[brisk trail]

I think Transistor and Pyre both had some.

But again, nothing announced for Hades.

[winter harbor]

There's actually way worse punishments than Sisyphus's

Like Ixion's

[dry veldt]

What happened to him

[chilly slate]

sisyphus is the man

[astral swift]

Something with a wheel?

[winter harbor]

Sisyphus's is only torment on a mental level, plus he swole now

[chilly slate]

we don't even have to imagine him happy

[astral swift]

Or a word that begins with w

[dry veldt]

I know tantalus got screwed real hard too

[chilly slate]

he's straight up having a good time

[winter harbor]

He got strapped to a flaming wheel

[astral swift]

Ye that

[dry veldt]

NICE

At some point your skin must like lose all feeling because the nerves just get singed off

But this is hell so probably not

[chilly slate]

honestly isn't zag's whole deal kinda super close to those punishments tho? and he's having a swell time

[astral swift]

Was reading aboot Orpheus and Euridyce and the poem mentioned Ixion's wheel stopping for a sec

[winter harbor]

Well, he gets to feel like he's making some progress with the cosmetics

[arctic pumice]

10mb downloaded, what is this?

[chilly slate]

yeah lemme roll the boulder up the hill as many times as possible but lemme trick it out with upgrades

[winter harbor]

If Sisyphus was immortal and the concept of roguelikes existed back then, Sisyphus would be the god of roguelikes

[dry veldt]

It does seem almost "sisyphysian" if you will
Just as he is about to succeed, it goes back to the beginning again

[chilly slate]

THERE 👏 IS 👏 NO 👏 ESCAPE

[dry veldt]

Taken 👏 by 👏 the 👏 styx

[long turtle]

sisyphus boulder climb speedrun any%

[astral swift]

Zagreus floats back home angri

[dry veldt]

Bouldy%

[long turtle]

I'm sure he added his own little challenges and games too just like people who get really good at these types of games do

like skipping steps or getting faster times

[jaunty vapor]

God I love Rush Kick on demeter fists

[winter harbor]

"I'm sure Bouldy will make it up the hill this time. Today's the day, I can tell."

[dry veldt]

Eternity is a long time

[long turtle]

"Is there no escape?" also applies to poor sisyphus

[dry veldt]

Maybe one day he'll make it

[winter harbor]

At least it made him incredibly swole

Have you seen the definition in his arms?

[dry veldt]

He is jacked

[astral swift]

Sisyphus gives gains advice

[chilly slate]

hades is really a smorgasbord of himbos

[dry veldt]

Sisyphus flexing emote when?

[chilly slate]

war himbo, rock himbo, zappy himbo, wet himbo

[astral swift]

wet himbo

[dry veldt]

[brisk trail]

Bloody himbo.

Hypnos isn't quite buff enough to be a sleepy himbo.

Zeus strays towards it.

Oh, wait, we forgot the peak himbo of Hades: Theseus.

[chilly slate]

that's why i didn't include hermes bc he's tuned in

i do like this portrayal of ares tho it doesn't go straight to meathead

[tame marsh]

Zeus is too much of a jerk to be a himbo

[chilly slate]

grape himbo

[astral swift]

Ye Zeus wouldn't play with the local wildlife

[brisk trail]

What's Theseus? Shiny himbo?

He always sparkles.

[chilly slate]

i think he's too self absorbed to be a himbo

he has potential tho

[tame marsh]

Bot coming down like a Zeus boon I see

[chilly slate]

heaven's vengeance indeed

[astral swift]

He's Asterius' himbo

What 3 braincells he has left he dedicates to his best bull friend

[brisk trail]

Exactly.

[chilly slate]

yeah but that dynamic is like, OTP where one is the big gentle beefcake and then the small fiery beefcake who is endlessly devoted to their partner and secretly insecure

who only cares about himself (AND ALSO ASTERIUS. A LOT.)

[brisk trail]

If he would just see that Zagreus were the son of Hades, he would evolve straight to the Platonic ideal himbo, but he's such a himbo that he can't connect 2 and 2.

[astral swift]

It's still hilarious how excited Zagreus was to meet him and then

[brisk trail]

The writing in this game is so good.

[chilly slate]

ooo it would be fun to see like philosopher items in the well of charon

are there any that i missed?

[brisk trail]

I know SGG's next game won't be until 2023 or 2024 but oh my god I'm ready.

[astral swift]

My fave will always be the ||Hypnos-Meg subplot||

I shall never forget that

[winter harbor]

I like the ||Hypnos-Asterius autograph arc||

[brisk trail]

You know what the best part is?

[chilly slate]

that subplot is beat for beat like how my little brother acted with some of my friends growing up

[brisk trail]

Greg is the primary writer and he voices Hypnos.

Hypnos might be the best written character in the game.

His complete and perfect obliviousness to the events around him are possibly my favorite thing in the game.

[chilly slate]

how you gonna say that when head chef is right THERE

[astral swift]

I hold that sleepy boi close to my heart

[brisk trail]

Head chef is best animated.

[chilly slate]

true

og fruit ninja

[brisk trail]

You saw the Thanksgiving animation, right?

[chilly slate]

no!

[astral swift]

It's awesome

Check announcements

It's above the last message

[chilly slate]

OMG

HEAD CHEF CTHONIC COMPANION HWEN

[brisk trail]

Oh god it's so ||hecking|| good.

[chilly slate]

hey we're in HELL watch your LANGUAGE

omg imagine whipping that attack out on the big man

"this is not what i hired you for!!"

[astral swift]

That reminds me that Hades taught Zagreus blood and darkness and what it means like I still think on what went through that man's head to teach his son a curse

[chilly slate]

blood and darkness, that's just his son and his mom tho?

[astral swift]

but it's used as a cuuuuurse

[long turtle]

We talkin favorites?

There's lots of amazing characters, but of course I gotta give the favorite slot to my man Shadebro in the arena

Though for a more legitimate answer I really like Asterius a lot

[jaunty vapor]

Second fastest run

pog

[long turtle]

Idk something about the way he holds himself is pretty dope

That sorta quiet but confident demeanor

[chilly slate]

the way he stomps out after his solo encounter reminds me of this girl from antm

[brave dove]

would oldspiked collar or ever green acorn be better against Hades? ( i have 3 death defiances)

[chilly slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAjgn4YoYA8

[astral swift]

Acorn is great

[long turtle]

I would say Broken Spearpoint or Skelly Tooth if you're nervous, but if you feel a bit more confident or want to use one of those two then definitely Acorn

[chilly slate]

watch at 0:30 for the good stuff

[brave dove]

aight

[chilly slate]

i usually have broken spearpoint on hand bc it's great for poison in styx

[long turtle]

LMAO that walk out

[chilly slate]

i think my favorite character might be ares, somehow it's such a different characterization from typical modernizations of ares and ||the way he courts nyx is v dreamy||

[long turtle]

I'm gonna think of that every time now after the solo asterius fights

[chilly slate]

@long turtle yw

[long turtle]

Yeah Ares is pretty solid

I actually haven't seen him mention or try to court Nyx yet but maybe I need the epilogue first?

[brave dove]

have yet to even beat hades once yet =P

[chilly slate]

.>

[winter harbor]

I don't think I got the lines until after the epilogue

[long turtle]

I know you're pain Toothless

[astral swift]

I'm starting that dialogue and I'm already giggling

[long turtle]

truth be told I actually think ||Hades is one of the easier bosses, but because he's the final boss and has 2 health bars it's so easy to get nervous and panic until you get your first win||

took me like 10 runs to getting to him to finally beat him but once I did and got over the nerves it was fairly easy to do it consistently

just gotta get past that first time

[chilly slate]

yeah that second health bar moment had me shooketh

[long turtle]

saaaaame haha

[chilly slate]

and then for 10 runs after i didn't make it past elysium LOL

[radiant estuary]

@long turtle You might want to spoiler that

[rose nexus]

i would hire chef if i could

[long turtle]

good call, apologies

but yeah skelly tooth or broken spearpoint helps a lot for extra insurance

[brave dove]

|| it was like " YES I WON!" then
Second health bar : "may i introduce myself?"||

[long turtle]

I say this to everyone I know picking up the game but honestly Roguelites are like at least 50% confidence

[radiant estuary]

Anyways, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that the game might just be my favorite depiction of greek mythology in general nowadays

[long turtle]

A lot of the reason people die or struggle with the bosses/enemies isn't because they can't pick up the patterns or move around efficiently, they just get nervous and end up spamming rather than thinking about their actions

Once you have the confidence to face enemies/bosses and play while thinking through they become a lot simpler (at least until you ||turn up the heat||)

[brave dove]

||turn up the heat?||

[long turtle]

the other 50% I'd say is probably actual skill/making good decisions w rooms and boons

[chilly slate]

it was only the natural evolution of my interests after being a percy jackson hoe in my youth

[long turtle]

You'll see what I mean after your first victory, that's why I tagged it >.>

lmao same qwandra

loved that series and read a lot about greek mythology when I was younger

[graceful shell]

big mood I loved percy jackson

[long turtle]

Hades kinda resparked it for me

[winter harbor]

Yeah, Percy Jackson is fantastic

[brave dove]

^

[chilly slate]

i never stood a chance. bisexual gamer girl

[long turtle]

I don't remember a lot of the mythology tho, been looking for good, simple books w lots of pictures to read up on it again xD

[chilly slate]

read PJaTO

[brave dove]

oh yeah there was also BoO and ToA

[winter harbor]

And like, you can pretend to ahve demigod powers from that series

[long turtle]

BoO and ToA?

[chilly slate]

played all the previous SGGs

[radiant estuary]

Also, the game's version of Hades might also be my favorite depiction of him in general

[long turtle]

oh yeah percy jackson is a great universe for roleplays/creating OCs

[chilly slate]

trials of apollo

[long turtle]

given that the Greek Gods are (mostly) canonically sex fiends

[brisk trail]

I'm glad I'm straight, because this game has to be devastating to people with more than one target gender/sexuality.

[brave dove]

blood of olympus (may be the wrong name i forgot havent read in sometime)
and Trials of Apollo

[graceful shell]

I dug out my old copy of percy jackson & the greek heroes after playing hades, just to read the parts about orpheus and theseus again lol

[chilly slate]

ironically my mom got super into percy jackson after i outgrew them

so every christmas i buy her more rick riordan books

[winter harbor]

splash dash is as good as being a son of poseidon

[radiant estuary]

After that, favorite depiction might be of Nyx

[long turtle]

I kinda lowkey wanna reread PJ but a part of me fears that because they're children's novels and I'm a grown man that I won't find them entertaining and that it'll ruin my memory of em

[chilly slate]

they don't hold up super well in terms of prose, but i think in terms of YA fiction they're still real good

[brave dove]

ooo aight so its HoO not BoO

[long turtle]

not sure what HoO or Trials of Apollo are

I assume sequel series to the OG PJ eries?

series*

[graceful shell]

hoo is the second series right?

[brave dove]

yup

[graceful shell]

with Jason and that lot?

[chilly slate]

i remember staying up past my bedtime in middle school reading the hoover dam scene and literally not being able to breathe from laughing so hard

[radiant estuary]

Just because I kinda love the idea of this goddess with a crazy amount of power behind them and is feared by others for it, but she chooses to act really kind and personable and stuff

[brave dove]

yup

[radiant estuary]

also nyx is best mom

[brave dove]

to fight gaia gaea however u spell it

[long turtle]

maybe I'll try and reread them and then give the new series' a shot

[chilly slate]

i think if you are a child of chaos and infinite and so on you just wanna sit in your corner with the flowers and chill for a few eons

[winter harbor]

Nyx is even better than Toriel

[long turtle]

got plenty of time in quarantine lol

[winter harbor]

Nyx doesn't fight you to the death to stop you from going out

[chilly slate]

i liked his egyptian offshoot a lot, never tried the norse one

[brave dove]

wont say anything about ToA since its mostly spoilers

[chilly slate]

i really appreciate rick putting his name behind a lot of other YA writers who want to write similar stories about myths from their own culture

i think that's dope

[long turtle]

there are egyptian and norse offshoots?!

[brave dove]

yup

[graceful shell]

the Norse one was okay, the first one anyway.. haven't read the second one

[winter harbor]

Yeah, Egyptian and Norse mythology needs more love

[long turtle]

oh man I have SO MUCH to read

[winter harbor]

And I like Irish mythology too

[brave dove]

Magnus chase

[long turtle]

I still wanna find a nice book w lots of pretty art on just standard Greek Mythology first tho

[chilly slate]

@have you watched book of kells?

[winter harbor]

The only author who I've known has done anything with Irisih mythology is Diane Duane in her Young Wizards series, and she's married to someone Irish/is Irish herself, I don't remember

No, I haven't

[long turtle]

I've got a little book on various Irish Myths and tales but I haven't read much of it truth be told

[chilly slate]

d'aulaires is the OG

[graceful shell]

I think secret of the kells and wolfwalkers are irish based movies

[long turtle]

secret of kells is fantastic

[graceful shell]

tho wolfwalkers isn't out yet

[chilly slate]

ah secret of kells yes

[winter harbor]

I like the stuff about the fair folk in Irish mythology

And not like Disneyfied fairies, but fairies that are scary

[chilly slate]

i recently read the book Tithe @winter harbor

[radiant estuary]

Like grey aliens before they were grey aliens

[chilly slate]

it's not strictly irish but it is about dangerous fae

[graceful shell]

yeah fae are pretty scary in the original context..

[chilly slate]

honestly whisk me away and stick my mom with a changeling i'm sure we'll all be fine

[graceful shell]

LOL

yeah at this point maybe a changeling can run my life better than I can

[long turtle]

dnd ruined my brain so I can only think of changelings in that context

[chilly slate]

persephone's experience was kinda fae like

not in Hades context but in OG context like

eat the cursed fruit stay there for half the year

[graceful shell]

yeah I loved that they referenced that in the game

[winter harbor]

Zag has eaten so much pomegranates by now, no wonder why there's no escape

[chilly slate]

i LOVED that ||Demeter ended up being a wintry goddess that turned the surface to a wasteland||

most portrayals are for the other side

[long turtle]

I hit it pretty fast so I'm not 100% sure but ||you don't get Demeter until you've reached the final boss at least once yeah?||

[winter harbor]

She's still angry, makes sense

[brave dove]

yup

[winter harbor]

||Yes, you don't have to win, only reach him||

[long turtle]

I guess you could say that

"She's as cold as ice~"

[graceful shell]

||absolutely same, it's such a cool and unique way of interpreting Demeter when most media sidelines her into being like.. a wheat god||

[chilly slate]

the ||demeter aid|| is my favorite aid tbh it makes me feel powerful as heck

[long turtle]

I usually skip the demeter aid unless I have the "10 stacks does a burst of damage"

Because then...oh man

[chilly slate]

not from a damage or strategy standpoint but

her voice actor freaking nailed it

[winter harbor]

I take demeter aid for aoe, usually

[long turtle]

It is nice to clear ||add-ons in the Hades fight||

[chilly slate]

true

i like it for the crowd control and the duration

[long turtle]

Personal favorite Aid is probably Zeus or Artemis'

[chilly slate]

and the 10 stacks boon makes it real nice

[long turtle]

I think Artemis' gets passed up by newbies because they see how weak the 1 bar version is

[winter harbor]

Artemis' aid just deletes a phase

[graceful shell]

I basically always take artemis/poseidon/aphrodite

[long turtle]

but the 4 bar full artemi aid?

just DELETES

[brisk trail]

why does styx love giving me 4 boon rooms on a boonless run

[brave dove]

me with shield when i see the bomb chariots : "time to hide in a corner and hold bull rush"

[graceful shell]

love that burst baby

[chilly slate]

artemis is good on its own, i really like ares with the pull/range boons

[long turtle]

artemis ares duo cast is so good

Hahaha that's why I ended up ||timing and figuring out when he goes invulnerable, just use it right after. He does it once at just above half health on first bar, once at like 4/10ths health on first bar, and then once at half health on second bar||

[chilly slate]

strategy? in MY dating sim?

[brave dove]

also for the survive 43 seconds thing just sit in a corner and block every attack lol

[long turtle]

If you feel confident fighting I'd recommend actually fighting the enemies in them

They drop gold so you can actually farm a LOT of gold in that room if you're fast

[graceful shell]

get that $$$$$

[long turtle]

^^

[brave dove]

huh

[chilly slate]

i tried the corner thing and i kept getting hit RIP

[brave dove]

oof how

[chilly slate]

idk i'm bad at this game

if you think of it as a roguelike

as a dating sim, i'm a master

[long turtle]

honestly on the first and second floors play as aggressively as possible with Thanatos rooms, survive rooms, troves and chaos gates. On third floor you can ease off a bit unless you don't have a win condition yet

[graceful shell]

so you're a lover, not a fighter?

[long turtle]

The faster you get stronger the better time you'll have in your run in general

[brave dove]

win condition?

[winter harbor]

that's what Aphrodite says

[long turtle]

Typically you want to build boons around a certain style

[winter harbor]

I still wouldn't recommend getting caught by her stun arrow in a trial

[chilly slate]

nah aphrodite is a lover AND a fighter

[long turtle]

For example once you have Privileged Status, you should focus on trying to get two statuses whenever possible

[winter harbor]

True, she's a war goddess

[radiant estuary]

Or at least started out as such

[long turtle]

And when you take that into consideration, you start thinking about what 4 Gods you want to make their boons work together

For example I really like Poseidon and ||Demeter|| for their duo boon cast with the spinning shards

[chilly slate]

my favorite is the ||demeter|| and artemis cast

followed by the athena and zeus cast but i rarely have a run where that's available

[brave dove]

oo so maybe something like if i get a hammer and make my shield hit twice i should try get that support fire thing from artemis

[long turtle]

tho with poseidon you need to get at least a secondary boon that makes your knockbacks apply rupture for the status unlike w ||Demeter's chill||

[brave dove]

since its 1 seeking arrow every hit

so since it hits twice its just a hail of seeking arrows

[long turtle]

Yeah that's definitely a start

You can build around the double hit

So for example having attacks that apply hangover or chill is also really good with double hit

Especially chill

[chilly slate]

actually you know how you know you've got a good build? if your switch is lagging from all the animation THEN it's a good build

[long turtle]

Then you can start thinking about your second status as well as your strategy

For shield it'd probably be hit hit dash hit hit dash

so you're always either stun locking or moving around an enemy until they die

Also if you're new and trying to clear your first runs

Honestly I think you should always go Athena dash

even if you get offered epic or better tier boons, take the Athena dash instead if its an option

the ability to DEFLECT with the ability you spam nonstop in the game is amazing

[radiant estuary]

Or failing that, Posiden dash can work too

[long turtle]

indeed

[chilly slate]

your first run clear will always come from some frankenbuild that you cobbled together to fulfill fates' predictions i don't make the rules

[radiant estuary]

It's not Athena-level good, but it's a decent substitute

[long turtle]

I don't know why my brain didn't figure it out til I experienced it but

||Jury Summons heat condition: Pfft easy
Condition that buffs enemy max health: Also easy haha
The two together: nightmare world||

[runic agate]

Bro posiden sword is bad ass with posiden cast

i had a insanely broken run with it

[long turtle]

Especially if you get that hermes boon that makes dislodging casts deal damage to enemies

it can get DISGUSTING

that in itself is honestly a win condition

[runic agate]

I had both

[long turtle]

constant backslam and cast damage coming out

[chilly slate]

i thought that was an artemis boon?

[long turtle]

oh is it artemis? my b

[runic agate]

plus 2 extra casts

[long turtle]

I have trouble keepin track sometimes

[runic agate]

Oh yeah thats a arte thing

[long turtle]

honestly don't sleep on artemis boons

[winter harbor]

Pressure points and support fire are both very strong

[long turtle]

I think because they are all "percentage bsaed" in terms of crit and stuff, newbies think thery aren't consistent or don't have as much oomph

but if you work that hunters mark and steadily rack up those bonuses it is super strong

[graceful shell]

sometimes I'll run an Artemis attack/special build just for big crit dmg

[runic agate]

i had speed cast dislodge dmg and arte 2+ casta and a extra chaos cast

in total i had 6 casts

[long turtle]

that sounds spectacular zekanark

wish you had that run recorded lol

[runic agate]

most broken thing ever

i kinda do too

[long turtle]

I know it'd take up a lot of space

[runic agate]

||hades|| just melted like butter in a oven

[graceful shell]

that sounds so much fun

[long turtle]

But it'd be really cool if there was a feature you could turn on that records your last run

so you can download/replay it

[graceful shell]

2x the normal amount of casts.. man

[runic agate]

Yeah

[long turtle]

I also think watching your runs back helps you improve a LOT

[runic agate]

normally im a stygian soul user but i choose the other one since i was unsein the posiden sword

[long turtle]

you can see your mistakes and learn from them so much faster

[chilly slate]

i'm lazy af i always boon up my casts over anything else

just stand back and watch the magic happen

[brave dove]

i rarely use cast >.<

[runic agate]

THe entire game just was crying after that run

[long turtle]

I usually start Chthonic coin purse and see whatever the first boon they give me is and try to build around that unless it's garbo

You want to learn to use cast more toothless

[brisk trail]

I just had a very stacked AoPoseidon run with Crush Shot and Snow Burst.

[graceful shell]

I think generally u use cast more the more you play

[runic agate]

Then i crapped on the game again with a eris run just to rub it in

[long turtle]

because every cast I think except 'festive fog' embeds your crystal in them

[brisk trail]

Instant PS and Flurry Shot.

[long turtle]

and t here is a mirror perk that makes you do lots more damage to enemies with your cast in thenm

[brave dove]

i think the ares cast dosent embed

[runic agate]

@long turtle No ares and demeter dont

[brave dove]

the one with the circle thing

[long turtle]

oh my b ares doesn't either ye

[brisk trail]

Crystal Beam and Slicing Shot do not lodge.

[chilly slate]

depending on the aspect i use i'll aim for a certain cast boon or not

[long turtle]

yeah you right I'm dumb lol

[runic agate]

3 of them dont

[long turtle]

but the majority of them lodge

[brisk trail]

On the other hand, those three have unambiguously the strongest Duo boons in the game.

[long turtle]

and it really helps with extra damage dealing w foes

[chilly slate]

with the bow i'll go for ares cast but with short range weps i'll keep cast long range

[long turtle]

that';s true too

[runic agate]

festive fog blade rift and crystal beam dont do it

but every other cast does

[long turtle]

if you get the artemis and ares duo boon for the cast

[brisk trail]

Ice Wine and Scintillating Feast, Crystal Clarity, and Hunting Blades are among the strongest builds in the game.

[long turtle]

you just destroy

ye

[graceful shell]

I looooove crystal beam.. it feels like such a stupid build but it's so fun

[chilly slate]

hunting blades effing RULES

@graceful shell same

[long turtle]

its basically higher risk going for those casts early on w high reward if you manage to pick up the duo by endgame

[winter harbor]

crystal beam is fun

I always wanted turrets in my roguelite

[chilly slate]

i like my crystal golem minions

[graceful shell]

zagreus here like ||hello father it is laser time||

[runic agate]

I had a Achilles run where i had thatand i must say the game was on its knees begging for its life not even charon stood my powrr

[long turtle]

I like the crystal beam things I got (forgot what boons) where the laser either followed me or homed in on enemies competently

[chilly slate]

pew pew

[long turtle]

Yeah pretty much zekanark lol

[runic agate]

Oh yeah

[flat vapor]

eh, crystal beam and trippy shot can be fine secondaries on their own (trippy shot more than crystal beam, and definitely not slicing shot)

[runic agate]

the demeter artemis duo

[long turtle]

slicing shot is sad bc it's not very good due to its speed

[runic agate]

My current fav cast id flood shot

[chilly slate]

my faveee

[long turtle]

but if they made it even a little faster it'd be broken in styx

[chilly slate]

it's so good if you boon it up tho

[long turtle]

ye but you need to rely on your 3 or less hermes boons to pull through for ya on that

[flat vapor]

slicing shot ranges from mediocre to straight up bad without any duos on it lol

[runic agate]

Flood shot has massive AoE dmg and hits like a truck

[long turtle]

flood shot is also just so visually satisfying

[runic agate]

And its long range

[long turtle]

that wave pushing everyone three billion miles away

feelsgoodman

[runic agate]

imo flood shot is the best cast

[long turtle]

JawlessPaul had an interesting cast boon tier list I liked

[real edge]

festive fog for days

[chilly slate]

i like crystal beam for crowd control

[long turtle]

not sure what channel if any I'd post taht

[chilly slate]

and it takes care of a lot of the secondaries in elysium

probably builds

[real edge]

although realistically it depends on your build

[runic agate]

Festive fog is the worst imo

[chilly slate]

depends on the aspect you're carrying

[runic agate]

basically this is my tier list

[long turtle]

festive fog isn't very good but

I think it's hilarious that if you use it, the falling statues in asphodel stop going up

and just stay there

drunk statue

[chilly slate]

OMG can i seriously not say HECK in a game about HADES

anyways

[flat vapor]

hell?

lol

[chilly slate]

oh wait

it's got an issue with a different word

it's a molotov mixed drink in hell

[steady crane]

So how it came that the Wretched Broker is so fat?

[graceful shell]

I think it was probably the molotov thing LOL

[long turtle]

Dionysus, I don't think most his boons are v good

but it's a struggle because he's one of the most charming Gods imo

[chilly slate]

the wretched broker is probably knocking back ambrosia and nectar nonstop

[runic agate]

S:flood shot
A: crystal cast, true shot
B: Crush shot zues cast slicing shot
D:
F: festive fog

[long turtle]

so on one hand I love seeing him and hearing his lines but on the other no I don't want 1 nectar and 20 hp

[brave dove]

oof y festive fog bad?

[runic agate]

This is my exact list

[nocturne ginkgo]

I really like festive fog

[long turtle]

I think festive fog is much better

[steady crane]

Festive Fog is great

[flat vapor]

[long turtle]

it has one of the highest base damages

[steady crane]

more if you get the duo boon involving it

[runic agate]

I hate it

[nocturne ginkgo]

getting a free "stun" on enemies is fantastic

[long turtle]

its just it has an unsatisfying effect and requires a bit more aim/timing

[runic agate]

Its slow and annoying

[brave dove]

u can throw em right before boss's impervious end

[long turtle]

but largely I find dionysus' boons underwhelming unless paired intentionally with certain Gods/combos

[brave dove]

so the moment the impervious ends their stunned, take alot of dmg and u can deal alot

[runic agate]

And it doesnt make me have serotonin when i hit with it and the stun effect is garbo

[long turtle]

unless you get the fountain one at a higher rarity and really early, that can be pre nice

[chilly slate]

the fountain boon comes in clutch sometimes

[nocturne ginkgo]

I've never had an issue using his cast and it has some really fun duo effects

[runic agate]

The dmg jist isnt high enough for its downsides imo

[molten nymph]

i like festive fog the most
since it works well enough without duo and works amazing with duo

[runic agate]

When flood shot has litteraly the same dmg but its faster and better

[long turtle]

It's hard to pick a favorite cast but for me it's probably poseidon, artemis, or zeus'

[nocturne ginkgo]

dionysus is probably the god I seek out the most

[long turtle]

and not bc zeus is good

its just really satisfying seeing the lightning zip around

it's probably only B tier being honest but it feels good to throw out

[runic agate]

I dislike it

[nocturne ginkgo]

I think weapon choice has a lot to do with what cast you like as well

[long turtle]

I feel the same w lightning special chaos shield

most satisfying meme build tho?

[brave dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724791697615224843/784646684071690240/unknown.png
me rn just camping thesus since i have that boon where u heal 1 hp every .8 seconds if u have no more death defiances

[long turtle]

Maxed ||Aspect of Zagreus gloves|| with Greater Evasion and a bunch of revenge boons

[chilly slate]

Probably the build where your vengeance’s fire randomly and you can fight while doing nothing

[long turtle]

ye basically same idea I had

very fun lol

[runic agate]

What does everypne think the best cast is?

[long turtle]

although it requires a lot more skill getting through the actual floors without nice damage or clear

[runic agate]

mine is flood shot

[long turtle]

it's gotta be artemis arrow or flood shot for me

[runic agate]

Arrow is basically floodshot without the AoE and crit potential

[chilly slate]

I’m a personal fan of ares and Demeter casts with Artemis duos

[runic agate]

Bruh

[molten nymph]

its... really build dependent but i think i like flood the best

[runic agate]

no other boons

just the cast

[brisk trail]

hunting blades is silly

I really like artemis cast

[molten nymph]

if i'm not doing a cast build

[runic agate]

Flood shot seems and arrow cast are S tier for me

[chilly slate]

Okay? Then Artemis cast

[long turtle]

The way I play typically is melee with high focus on damage

[runic agate]

Flood shot is ma boi tho

[molten nymph]

oh wait no

[long turtle]

so I just see cast as a way to lodge crystals for damage bonus

[molten nymph]

artemis cast

[long turtle]

and for that artemis arrow is a godsend

[brisk trail]

aphro cast is actually really good with poseidon sord

[long turtle]

just a free automatic insurance that it lodges the crystal;

[molten nymph]

because i can use it as a tracker for faraway enemies

[runic agate]

@long turtle Same mostly

[brisk trail]

I just had a monster build with that exactly, Misty.

and hera/hidden shield

[chilly slate]

Underrated benefit

[long turtle]

aphro cast is pretty pog

[brisk trail]

Absolutely burned through the game.

I was getting 2.6k crits with aphro cast lol

aphro cast doesn't lodge, right?

its so fast

It does.

[molten nymph]

aphro cast can lodge

[brisk trail]

in general i like dio cast

it does but kinda unpredictably

[molten nymph]

but its kinda janky

[brisk trail]

ahhh

It just has some issues lodging.

[runic agate]

Flood shot is just so satisfying to hot and thats why its S for me

[long turtle]

also who do you guys think are the hardest Gods to fight in Trial of the Gods?

[runic agate]

hmm

[brisk trail]

aphro

Demeter.

demeter in a small room

[long turtle]

Aphto gives me the most trouble

[runic agate]

zeus

[long turtle]

but I have never ever done demeter

[brisk trail]

annoying stun

[chilly slate]

Aphrodite

[molten nymph]

demeter

[long turtle]

scared whatever hers is would destroy me

[chilly slate]

Demeter

[runic agate]

and aphro

[brisk trail]

aphro really isn't that bad

Top 3 in order: Demeter, Ares, Athena.

[chilly slate]

It’s annoying tho

[winter harbor]

Aphrodite

[molten nymph]

aphro is weapon dependent

[brisk trail]

just don't get hit 4head

[runic agate]

Zues aphro and posiden are hardest

[brisk trail]

Aphro is 4.

[molten nymph]

on a bow its not that bad

[winter harbor]

Athena isn’t bad, at least in non elysium

[chilly slate]

Honestly I pass up Athena and ares the most because they understand the game of war lol

[runic agate]

Athena doesnt bother me that much

[brisk trail]

i don't anger the gods with projectiles

[runic agate]

its just a time waster

[chilly slate]

I’m not here to make enemies

[long turtle]

for the longest time I never took ares' trial bc I assumed war god means his would be the most intense

but I didn't find his that bad to do after finally trying it

[brisk trail]

artemis is like the least threatening

[runic agate]

Agreed

[long turtle]

artemis is also is so hurt when you spurn her tho

[runic agate]

I gtg cyapl

[long turtle]

it hurts me even tho her trial is ezpz

[molten nymph]

dio's isnt hard but i hate it so much

[brisk trail]

Oh yeah.

[long turtle]

take care zeka!

[brisk trail]

she commented on how I kept choosing the other god LOL

I almost always take Artemis unless the opposing Olympian is super hard.

[brave dove]

how good is the dionysus call?

[chilly slate]

Artemis acts xactly like my lesbian girl friends who are offended when I go on a single date with a man

[brisk trail]

serviceable

[long turtle]

I actually don't think I've ever used dio call, not sure what it is

[chilly slate]

It slows your enemies down

The stun helps

[brisk trail]

causes hangover

[brave dove]

inflicts hangover too

[long turtle]

that's pretty nice

[chilly slate]

But I don’t go for it

[brisk trail]

its just like a beeg drunken dash

[long turtle]

usually if I'm melee I try for zeus call, otherwise poseidon or athena

[brisk trail]

I loooove Poseidon call

[molten nymph]

dio call deals decent damage

[brisk trail]

Yeah, Dio Call is big homing Drunken Dash with like, 8x the damage.

[chilly slate]

If I’m really gunning it

[brisk trail]

wheeee

[chilly slate]

Again, ||demeter|| call s tier for the absolute frisson the voiceover gives me on the ult

[molten nymph]

true

[chilly slate]

And IMO ares and Demeter calls stack the best with addtl boons

[long turtle]

learned that frisson is a word!

[molten nymph]

oh yeah

[brisk trail]

I think my favorite voice lines in this game are zag saying "Rot" and "what's for breakfast? dinner maybe?"

[molten nymph]

recently i am taking a liking to aphro's call

[chilly slate]

||A WASTELAND DEVOID OF LIFE||

[molten nymph]

the few seconds of bosses being is great

[chilly slate]

Aphrodite call be like go to horny jail BONK

[long turtle]

Aphro's call is great for Privileged Status too

Lasts a solid bit and is an easy way to apply a status quickly

[graceful shell]

my favourite voiceline is probably zag imitating thanatos' bell noise. guh-dong

[brisk trail]

Aphro's Call doesn't proc PS.

the sound that happens when the gods show up after you pick a boon is amazing

[long turtle]

wait it doesn;t?

[brisk trail]

like

[long turtle]

Charm doesn't count as a status?!

[brisk trail]

Nope.

[long turtle]

I am stupid lmfao

[brisk trail]

the feoosh and their voice coming in with it

[long turtle]

I thought it was proc-ing this whole time

[molten nymph]

lol

[long turtle]

Darnell? More like dumbnell

[brisk trail]

really makes em feel powerful

[molten nymph]

i don't like relying on call for PS

[long turtle]

ye same

it was a pinch pick for me but now I don't value it at all learning that

[molten nymph]

if my main damage source aint a status i'm not touching PS

[long turtle]

I'm a simple man

[brisk trail]

my ass was like "I wanna do an aphro/dionysus run!" and didn't take ps

[long turtle]

On gloves I like one status applier on attacks, and one on special

I can live if the special is on dash instead

[brave dove]

yesss chanced it with that anvil thing i lost one of my hammer enchant but i got the double hit on shield

[long turtle]

otherwise athena dash

and then just build around the boons I have

[brave dove]

so thats LOADS of seeking arrows

[brisk trail]

I had double hit with +30% swift strike

it was silly

[long turtle]

family favorite isn't bad either

[brisk trail]

family favorite is more of a general thing

while priveliged status is definitely better in its niche

[chilly slate]

Tru

[long turtle]

truth be told I like melee weapons and PS because I feel like it teaches me to be more aware

[chilly slate]

I take family favorite bc i like the male gamer fantasy of being liked by your family

[long turtle]

I have to consciously think of what is applying what statuses and how to activate it

Same w melee weapons, have to learn patterns a bit more (imo anyway) then if you can shoot from afar w exagryph or coronacht

[brisk trail]

I just like mashing

[chilly slate]

Samesies

[long turtle]

I feel like that's part of the reason I ||got all 10 run wins in like 25 or 26 runs||, but then I got so used to using them that my brain can't turn it off xD

honestly nothing wrong with enjoying mashing either

I'm very self competitive for some reason and end up pushing myself in these games even if it isn't necessary

[chilly slate]

I think I usually take boons and weapons that are fun to stack

[molten nymph]

the whole game is the gamer fantasy of ||making up with your dad and communicates via a (mutual killing) game||

[brisk trail]

trying to make myself stop forcing divine dash

[winter harbor]

I favor melee

[brisk trail]

tryna get better

[molten nymph]

jokes on you i pick athena for tartarus rooms now

[long turtle]

male gamer fantasy of being liked by your family

[chilly slate]

Hence my preference for ||exagryph and demeter||

[long turtle]

that hit different

[brisk trail]

ofc if it shows up I'll take it but

[molten nymph]

turns out i can't even fight the sister without the dash

[brisk trail]

Not to mention ||having genuine and honest romantic and platonic relationships.||

[brave dove]

i love this double hit and seeking arrow thing aldy

[long turtle]

||exagryph and demeter|| w the 10 chill = boom boon is SO MUCH FUN

[brave dove]

enemies be stun locked nonstop

[brisk trail]

furies suuuuuuck with non-athena fists

[chilly slate]

YAAAAS

[molten nymph]

they [bad word] significantly less if i have long fists

[runic agate]

I havent died to furys since my 10th run

[molten nymph]

but... yeah

[brisk trail]

cool

[molten nymph]

i forgot how to dodge the projectiles

[brisk trail]

alecto annoys me

[molten nymph]

especially alecto

[scarlet perch]

furyes are harder then hydra

[brisk trail]

losing a dd to alecto is a gut punch lol

[long turtle]

alecto def my least favorite fury to fight

[runic agate]

Alecto is the hardest of the 3

[brisk trail]

I love evaporating tisiphone

[chilly slate]

I enjoy my self/dubbed Alecto builds

[long turtle]

I have to know

[brave dove]

i kill alecto the 2nd fastest

[chilly slate]

All ares boons plus ||zeus aspect||

Beyblade master

[brisk trail]

Tisiphone starts scariest but has the biggest tells.

[long turtle]

Does Tisiphone ||ever learn to say a word that isn't murder or murderer?||

[chilly slate]

Let it rip

[brave dove]

meg is easiest for me

[brisk trail]

yes

[chilly slate]

Yes

[long turtle]

pog

[scarlet perch]

i hate meg

[brisk trail]

yeah tisiphone was super scary the first time i fought her

[scarlet perch]

for some reason i suck at her

[runic agate]

Im not there yet and im 118 runs in so id say no

[brisk trail]

now im like lol thank goodness its her

[graceful shell]

tisiphone cute in a way

[scarlet perch]

im on 34 :/

[molten nymph]

she learned ||Zagreus||

[runic agate]

Tis is the easiest imo

[molten nymph]

which is

uhh

[scarlet perch]

on what run

[molten nymph]

a step

[chilly slate]

Zag is so gentle with her too

[scarlet perch]

like 500?

[brisk trail]

murder||z||er

[long turtle]

I'm on I think 27 or 28? Would have to get up and open to check

but close to 30

[runic agate]

I have 119 runs

[brisk trail]

I'm on run 90ish and she fully knows ||zagreus||

[runic agate]

Ight screw this im going to bed

[graceful shell]

he is.. Zagreus is such a good boy..

[scarlet perch]

do you fight all 3 of them at one point?

[brave dove]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724791697615224843/784651539280822292/unknown.png
alright... i hope i kill dear old dad this time||

[long turtle]

Zag is sweet and gentle with just the right amount of sass

[brisk trail]

zag is such a good protagonist

[scarlet perch]

i swear i saw soemone fight all 3

but i might be tripping

[brisk trail]

EM1

[long turtle]

I feel like it's hard to nail a sassy protag without making them obnoxious

[brisk trail]

final boss a spoiler here my dude

[long turtle]

but Zagreus gets it perfectly

[graceful shell]

you would think zag would be edgy personality-wise, with the setting and his design, but he's just surprisingly very nice with a sarcastic sense of humour

[scarlet perch]

i dont care about build or anything like that

[chilly slate]

Zag body pillow when??

[brisk trail]

normal furies aren't bad

[scarlet perch]

i just take things ithink are good

[brisk trail]

but they hurt with everything else

[long turtle]

Zag anime boy figurine for 3 billion dollars when?

[graceful shell]

worth every cent

[molten nymph]

dusa body pillow when

[scarlet perch]

i dont want to search this up ||is there r34 for the game... 💀 ||

[brisk trail]

oh absolutely

yes

of course

the rule is that if it exists

[scarlet perch]

shi...

[molten nymph]

...save my twitter

[long turtle]

a dusa body pillow would just be a regular pillow given her size, no?

[graceful shell]

feel like hypnos body pillow would be thematically fitting LOL

[brisk trail]

there's .. ya know

[scarlet perch]

hm

not searching that up

[brisk trail]

need than daki

[chilly slate]

Oh so much

[scarlet perch]

how do you know this?

[molten nymph]

unsurprisingly i found ||more of the dudes||

[brisk trail]

as it should

I have been on the internet for like 11 years

[scarlet perch]

how do you know this

[molten nymph]

art twitter be like that sometimes

[chilly slate]

I’m preparing my bf for reenacting the “ah yes. Me. My gf. And her full size zag body pillow” meme

[brisk trail]

because r34

[molten nymph]

look man, people who draw man muscles draw them good

[chilly slate]

It’s kind of impossible not to

[scarlet perch]

lol

[graceful shell]

u can just scroll through the hades topic on twitter and find that stuff by accident sometimes

[long turtle]

cursed zagreus plushie that gives you nectar every time you walk past

[chilly slate]

I have a lot of artist friends including myself

[brisk trail]

i found it by accident intentionally

[scarlet perch]

what

[graceful shell]

[scarlet perch]

how does that work

[brisk trail]

I can kinda draw

[scarlet perch]

bro

im a pro

look at my pfp

[chilly slate]

My favorite fanart so far tho is the megaera thee stallion

[brisk trail]

it sucks that the character I want to draw the most is shulk

because look at him

[brave dove]

||yikes i have 76 hp left and no death defiance and Hades just reached his second health bar||

[scarlet perch]

ha

[graceful shell]

good luck toothless

[brisk trail]

you can do it

gl

[long turtle]

You can do it toothless!

[molten nymph]

don't get hit bro

[chilly slate]

Time to lean forward

[long turtle]

Just stay calm, deep breaths

[scarlet perch]

i clutched ||hades with a DD and half a bar i think||

[long turtle]

you can read the patterns, you got this

[brave dove]

ima just hide and heal up since i got +1 hp every .8 seconds if i got no DD

[brisk trail]

enter... the zone...

or that

[long turtle]

I would not hide in the second half

[chilly slate]

Autozone

[scarlet perch]

enter the gungeon

very

[long turtle]

||He has lots more burning blood skulls and vases, to easy to slip up and get hit||

[brave dove]

oh

[scarlet perch]

ngl, 2nd half is easier then 1st

[chilly slate]

No darkness

[scarlet perch]

no cap

[molten nymph]

ye

[brisk trail]

I get hit by the summons more than him

[long turtle]

Indeed, I think the second bar has less health than the first

[molten nymph]

the summon phase is the worst

[graceful shell]

||at least he doesn't summon adds in the second half||

[long turtle]

at least it feels like it melts faster

yeah fr

[chilly slate]

Those pesky summons

[long turtle]

the summons are the most annoying

[scarlet perch]

the 1st half has 3 impervious stages

like wtf

[long turtle]

especially if he summons shieldlords

[brisk trail]

p sure that's so you can't nuke him

it's annoying but it makes sense

[chilly slate]

I usually save my ||cthonic conpanion|| for the summons

[scarlet perch]

but thats his 1st stage

[chilly slate]

Can’t be arsed to deal with them myself

[scarlet perch]

lol

[long turtle]

I don't have any ||companions|| yet T.T

[scarlet perch]

neither do i

[brave dove]

and i died

[long turtle]

we're in this together tron

[scarlet perch]

RIP

[graceful shell]

||the companions are a lot of fun||

[chilly slate]

Oop

[brave dove]

||but yeah the health does seem to melt faster||

[scarlet perch]

🤝

[brisk trail]

you'll get em eventually

the first win is such a rush

[brave dove]

||this time got his second hp bar to half which is better than before||

[long turtle]

fr

first win high is intense

[chilly slate]

I don’t think I laughed as hard all game as when I ||summoned bouldy || for the first time

[scarlet perch]

this is one of the games where the 1st final boss win is only the start

[brisk trail]

as it should be

[long turtle]

They still won't even let me talk ||to bouldy|| yet, guess I need more conversations w Sisyphus

[chilly slate]

Honestly the whole game had me understanding why Sisyphus is so happy

[scarlet perch]

you feel accomplished, and realize you have to beat him like 10 more times

[chilly slate]

Endlessly performing the same task with no success

[scarlet perch]

i read greek mythology books

[graceful shell]

reading up on sisyphus' backstory was a trip

[brave dove]

|| been giving lots of nectar to sisyphus, at one point u can give ambrosia to get bouldy yeah||

[chilly slate]

Again!! And again!! 🤩

[long turtle]

wow thats me w gungeon!

[scarlet perch]

what

[long turtle]

I am way worse at gungeon than at Hades

[scarlet perch]

lol

[brave dove]

sisyphus be like "death? totally not hidden somewhere after i tied him up"

[graceful shell]

honestly I feel bad for thanatos getting tricked by sisyphus, but after reading what happened. that's on you buddy. that's on you

[brisk trail]

using rail makes me feel like I'm playing greek ruiner

[scarlet perch]

what

spolier?

[brisk trail]

that's Greek mythology lol

[graceful shell]

oh yeah sorry, I figured cause its.. not really in the game as much as it is just greek mythos

[long turtle]

nah he's talking about mythology

ye

[scarlet perch]

lel

[chilly slate]

My little bro loves gungeon but I don’t think I’m ready to have so many Talks with him to introduce him to hades

[scarlet perch]

ohh

ok

[long turtle]

I don't think general greek mythology counts as spoiler

just specific things the game added

[scarlet perch]

well go ahead

thought it was in game

if it isnt, cool

[chilly slate]

No that’s just Greek mythology

[brisk trail]

this game has totally changed the way I think about Greek gods lol

[scarlet perch]

lol

[chilly slate]

IMO reading up on the myths of Persephone, Sisyphus, and Theseus greatly enhance the game

[long turtle]

me too

[brisk trail]

like a certain series and zodiac signs

[brave dove]

||hypnos : hey letting all the mortals die at the same time will save u a buncha trouble!
Thanatos : facepalms||

[long turtle]

it's very weird because I read this manga called Record of Ragnarok

and the greek gods are TOTALLY different

very different style, different and much more aggressive and dangerous vibe

[scarlet perch]

ragnarok is norse

[chilly slate]

Oh and Achilles

[long turtle]

very interesting comparing

[scarlet perch]

isnt it?

[long turtle]

no I'm aware

[scarlet perch]

norse doomsday

[long turtle]

Record of Ragnarok is a manga

about gods from various mythologies fighting humans

so humans can live another thousand years

you get lu bu vs thor, adam vs zeus, etc

[scarlet perch]

various mythologies

[chilly slate]

Fellas, is it gay to have your ashes mixed with another man’s so you can be eternally entwined in death?

[scarlet perch]

ok

what

[stone pebble]

no

[graceful shell]

no that's totally heterosexual behaviour

[stone pebble]

probably not

[graceful shell]

according to historians anyway

[chilly slate]

Just guys being dudes

[scarlet perch]

who is gonna be able to tell its 2 different ashes?

who

[long turtle]

having ashes mingled is like weirdly cute

like wanting every atom of your being to be mixed with someone elses

[scarlet perch]

someguy is gonna roll up "yep, definetly 2 different ashes"

[chilly slate]

Like a lil McCormick spice mix

[stone pebble]

I mean

[brave dove]

||welp now i know what second phase of Hades does i think ima use the sword and try fight him again||

[long turtle]

Good luck toothless!

[scarlet perch]

yep

[long turtle]

Personally if you're struggling I'd use shield and maybe God Mode

[scarlet perch]

no

dont use god mode

[graceful shell]

go get em toothless!!!

[long turtle]

God Mode can be turned on and off whenever and it keeps your resistance percentage

I don't but my friend does

[chilly slate]

Is he... you know... a myrmidon?

[long turtle]

they are already at like 50% and still haven't beaten meg

[scarlet perch]

what

[chilly slate]

Yeah I got god mode to the max for my first save file

[long turtle]

I know lol

[chilly slate]

Just trying to 100% it

[molten nymph]

game can be tough if you don't pace down on bosses

[scarlet perch]

how does god mode work?

[chilly slate]

And I never turned it on for my second

[long turtle]

There's no shame in God mode to get your first run win

Especially if you choose to turn it off after

[chilly slate]

Every time you die you gain 2% resistance

[scarlet perch]

i got my first win on my 20th run

[long turtle]

Beating the first run once gives you the confidence to fight the last boss in future runs without panicking

[scarlet perch]

i guess thats fair

its not giving you a cookie

its telling you how to make it

[graceful shell]

it gives you a flat 20% resistance off the bat, and then +2% resistance every time you die

[chilly slate]

Up to ||80||

[long turtle]

mine was on my 15th or 16th run I think

[scarlet perch]

noice

[chilly slate]

Yeah. You still learn gameplay and strategy

It doesn’t give it to you

[long turtle]

And again you can turn god mode off whenever

and if you decide yuou need it again

[chilly slate]

Although you might be a little overconfident plowing into enemies

[long turtle]

it keeps what percentage you were on

it doesn't reset to 20

[graceful shell]

I guess a 'god mode' wouldn't be in the traditional sense in this game anyway, since nearly everyone is a god

[scarlet perch]

I wish games had similar assistance to Celeste

Celeste does it perfectly

[brisk trail]

Celeste is so good

[scarlet perch]

You can choose multiple things to make easier

Slow time, number of dashes, etc

I didn’t use it, but I can see how people can use it to experience the game

A ||reverse pact of punishment||

[chilly slate]

A good boy pact

[brave dove]

||oo i can now talk to bouldy!!||

||bit more and i might get the companion||

[woeful wigeon]

how

[severe flare]

Does Hades even sleep?

He has a bedroom

[woeful wigeon]

why do you think he isn't at the desk sometimes

[brisk trail]

:o

[severe flare]

But he's not in his bedroom

[woeful wigeon]

why are you in your father's bedroom

[severe flare]

Resource Director

[brisk trail]

why's that dude in there anyways

[woeful wigeon]

how do u get access

[severe flare]

Achilles

[woeful wigeon]

achilles?

[severe flare]

When Zag was trying to reach his || mommy||

Yes

[scarlet perch]

He explains why he doesn’t sleep

If you try to sleep

[woeful wigeon]

huh

[severe flare]

Yes, Achilles let me in

[scarlet perch]

For the other guy

Why doesn’t he just like, dash in there?

Just zoom

[brave dove]

am conflicted >.< so i found a heroic heart break strike, should i replace my epic curse of agony?

[scarlet perch]

The door is locked

[woeful wigeon]

guys uh

help

[severe flare]

I unlocked the door

Achilles gave me ||the key||

[woeful wigeon]

how fast do you think hades is

[severe flare]

Fast

[brave dove]

the heroic heartbreak strike is +121% dmg and inflicts weak
but the epic curse of agony inflicts doom which does 100 dmg >.<

which do i keeeepp

[woeful wigeon]

i mean he can't just stand there all day

cerberus might go to him and warn him that you're there

[severe flare]

Depends on your attack base damage

Low base dmg? Ares

[brave dove]

90 rn since i chose the world splitter hammer enchant

[severe flare]

High? Aphrodite

That's it. Good luck!

[brave dove]

aight

sweet

285 dmg adding on from my other boons too

[scarlet perch]

I need to see a 500 dmg doom boon

[brave dove]

dat would be amazing

[scarlet perch]

It would need to be heroic and have the boon that adds 0.5 seconds and increases dmg

And stacking

[brave dove]

just hit dash hit dash

let that 500 dmg do its work

[wild schooner]

how am i just now realizing that tight deadline pauses in thanatos encounters

[brisk trail]

it's gonna keep going when he talks after the fight

[brave dove]

tight deadline?

[brisk trail]

you're gonna want to open the codex to pause the timer while he does

[brave dove]

codex?

[scarlet perch]

No

[brisk trail]

tight deadline is a pact condition

[scarlet perch]

Pact

[brave dove]

oh

[brisk trail]

yo i didn't know you could do that

press c toothless