So you charge dash
Spam your casts, if you have belie three one more attack so you can refresh the buff
Repeat
#h1-discussion
quaint hatch
glacial lagoon
can chaos give +1 to cast twice?
I think he can for everything else but I could see a really good run here
quaint hatch
He has no limit on that
You can fish for the same buff multiple times
Remember artemis legendary
glacial lagoon
I don't, I haven't seen hers
quaint hatch
+2 cast stones
glacial lagoon
oh, I did not know that
quaint hatch
Also her exit wounds boon is incredible with poseidon aspect and is 1/2 of the requirements for the legendary
(you need two of pressure points, support fire or exit wounds)
brisk trail
i had a pos sword run with 7 cast stones, greater recall + the quick cast boon, and the pos/arty duo
it was 
quaint hatch
glacial lagoon
support fire is so hard to get- is it ever worth it? idk if number of hits (like 20 with aspect of zagreas on gun) * 10 is good or not
I mean it sounds good on paper
quaint hatch
Depends on the aspect
It's insane on rail f.e.
Also it's not hard to get if you have athena in your run
You prolly just dunno it also has a pre req
glacial lagoon
I did not know that, I'm assuming crit on special or attack?
stiff umbra
quick question, it's basically impossible to get all the cosmetics for the house with gems right?
glacial lagoon
he means the total is like 500k I think
stiff umbra
just that there's a ton that are very expensive, and you get so few gems per run
glacial lagoon
gems never run out if that's what you're asking
glacial kernel
honestly most of the cosmetics are just options for each other too
quaint hatch
Well the only constraints you have is your Time
stiff umbra
you'd have gotten everything else in the game by the time you'd be able to buy 1/3 of cosmetics
carmine ravine
you can get like 500+ gems per run tho iirc
glacial kernel
ive been just chasing darker thirst today and ive gotten about 70% cosmetics
stiff umbra
you can get like 500+ gems per run tho iirc
no way, do you know how?
carmine ravine
poseidon, chaos, darker thirst
quaint hatch
Take troves, darker thirst
glacial lagoon
spoiler territory as you're new, but ||a certain god can give you + 60% gem rates and you can get gems after killing bosses, and you can get gems from troves||
glacial kernel
also chaos boon
stiff umbra
hm I've heard of those tips, all that really ammounts to 500 gems per run? that's cool if so
glacial kernel
how do i spoiler tag?
glacial lagoon
||
you can get WAY more than 500 if you're lucky, say you have darker thirst, and you have chaos boon, and you have all trove upgrades, you can have so so many
glacial kernel
im averaging about 200-300 not going for chaos
stiff umbra
I actually have 70h playtime, but yeah better to spoiler for others
that's great to know!
glacial lagoon
but the stars would need to align, I don't often get troves
carmine ravine
chaos already gives a lot, and poseidon got that boost too, so just learn how to main poseidon i guess
quaint hatch
spoiler territory as you're new, but ||a certain god can give you + 60% gem rate...
That's not spoiler territory
carmine ravine
troves is purchasable in wells
glacial lagoon
bosses also can give a lot, ||specifically Theseus||
carmine ravine
and fishes too
glacial lagoon
chaos is totally spoiler
carmine ravine
nope
quaint hatch
Nope
Everything past first clear is spoiler on this and #h1-for-new-players
Heat isn't here
Secret aspects are
Final boss name is
glacial lagoon
oh I see
carmine ravine
congrats
glacial lagoon
you can do that?
brisk trail
fun time
quaint hatch
Imo the earlier you take it the better
languid timber
The charon thing is a spoiler or?
glacial lagoon
I just assumed that he wouldn't let you buy it. Man, I gotta try this now
carmine ravine
it is a spoiler
glacial lagoon
||the fight itself||
languid timber
Ahh kk
quaint hatch
More benefit and more time to ||restore lost DD's||
quaint hatch
||the fight itself||
So you tag chaos but not that huh?
languid timber
I'll talk about the rest in the spoiler channel then
glacial lagoon
||I have no idea what you're talking about||
brisk trail
||i lost two DDs by taking that fight early||
quaint hatch
I'll talk about the rest in the spoiler channel then
You can here as long as you tag
brisk trail
pain
quaint hatch
||i lost two DDs by taking that fight early||
Yo tag pls
glacial lagoon
what is a dd?
quaint hatch
Deaths defiance
glacial lagoon
ah
carmine ravine
counterpart for SD
quaint hatch
But if you lose the in tartarus you have a lot of time to restore them
languid timber
Ooh kk
quaint hatch
Obvs only applicable if you can consistently get through elysium without problems
Eh getting 400 obols isn't that much
glacial lagoon
man, but I want to steal without spending, is that possible? well whatever I don't use shops untill styx
carmine ravine
its just 200 gold
quaint hatch
Also latrocleus
quaint hatch
If 200 is a lot for you you take far to few money rooms
brisk trail
not the actual value in the end
quaint hatch
It's 200 a piece
With the ||customer card|| even less
carmine ravine
just avoid shops ez
carmine ravine
not banking a shop is just a missed oppurtunity for a boon/hammer/resource
quaint hatch
That's obvs different with the heat modifier
quaint hatch
not banking a shop is just a missed oppurtunity for a boon/hammer/resource
If I have a boon or hammer that's a build priority in another room I'll take that first
Since the shop won't guarantee me that
carmine ravine
yea so u still avoiding shops
quaint hatch
Prioritizing
carmine ravine
sure
quaint hatch
I know you don't like to plan builds so you don't have priorities when it comes to certain gods
carmine ravine
alright man
sharp juniper
Can anyone tell me if the supergiant intends to implement click to move in Hades?
carmine ravine
then u atk with keyboard?
sharp juniper
yes... i think
quaint hatch
Click to move
Tf
glacial lagoon
Can anyone tell me if the supergiant intends to implement click to move in Hades...
woah what
quaint hatch
This isn't Baldurs Gate lol
glacial lagoon
that's like, that sounds like a huge hassle but that sounds awesome
maybe like a turn based mode where enemies move when you move
glacial lagoon
lava doesn't do more than 1 damage does it?
quaint hatch
Ramping damage
sharp juniper
For me click to move would be more accessable
glacial lagoon
agreed, traps are hard to step into with more than 1 dodge
carmine ravine
For me click to move would be more accessable
do have any disability regarding the controls?
flat vapor
sure footing reduces magma damage and lengthens the time before zag starts taking damage
quaint hatch
For me click to move would be more accessable
Oh ok I'm sry m8
glacial lagoon
oh I had no idea
carmine ravine
at that point just use spear
sharp juniper
do have any disability regarding the controls?
i have reduced mobility so 4 keys to move becomes complicated
carmine ravine
i see
sharp juniper
Oh ok I'm sry m8
no problem
bronze ravine
wouldn't a controller be easier for you then?
quaint hatch
Maybe you'll find a mod/help for that in the modding discord
Interested in Hades Modding?
Join the Hades Modding discord now!
https://discord.gg/KuMbyrN
carmine ravine
you can try to ask about it in the test branch but idk if they will respond abt it or not, since i remmebr someone similar bringing up the same points about accessibility too @sharp juniper
glacial lagoon
woah
tepid plover
This isn't Baldurs Gate lol
This is bouldys gate
brisk trail
carmine ravine
bad pun, plz head to the exit sir
quaint hatch
...
sharp juniper
wouldn't a controller be easier for you then?
I use a hand to use the touchpad and a foot on the keyboard to press the maximum 5 keys so do not know if a control would be feasible
bronze ravine
depends on how exactly your mobility is reduced ig, but you need just the thumb for the movements instead of 4 pc keys so maybe
sharp juniper
depends on how exactly your mobility is reduced ig, but you need just the thumb ...
I just haven't bought Hades yet because I'm not sure if I'll be able to play, I can try using a controller
glacial lagoon
aww
bronze ravine
I can't guarantee it will work since I don't know which fingers you can/can't use, but to play hades with a controller you'd want both thumbs, index and preferably major since you will pretty much only use the left stick, L/R buttons and symbols buttons
bronze ravine
thing is his problem is the 4 mvmt keys on pc
glacial lagoon
I've emulated games using the mouse buttons as movement
the side ones the fancy mouses have
bronze ravine
doesn't look practical to me but it would be an interesting solution
sharp juniper
I hope someone make a click mod to move as in Stardew valley
sharp juniper
I've emulated games using the mouse buttons as movement
as a control joystick ?
sudden dock
Yep, seems like I will need the 80% defense for 32 heat...
brisk trail
80% defense?
glacial lagoon
as a control joystick ?
yes
silent hill 2
having pcsx2 or whatever recognize both my keyboard and mouse was hell, so i tried doing everything with either or
hard to believe zag and skelly are the same va
glacial lagoon
not sure how it works on pc, seems like it would be really really hard to pull off
sharp juniper
not sure how it works on pc, seems like it would be really really hard to pull o...
i found a program called joytokey that apparently to makes the mouse emulate a joystick
slow edge
yeah i tried a mobile game called soul knight and played dead cells on pc
i enjoyed all of them for a short time
civic badger
is it weird that so far the shield is my favourite weapon?
slow edge
i have like 40hours on hades and im already burnt out
tepid plover
i found a program called joytokey that apparently to makes the mouse emulate a j...
Pardon my stupidity but how would that work
slow edge
quaint hatch
It isn't
Every weapon is nice
And everyone has their preferences
civic badger
cool thx
tepid plover
Why would it be weird that you like the shield lol
quaint hatch
Pardon my stupidity but how would that work
There are also programs that fool your of into thinking a ps4 is an xbox controller
Just emulates and translates the inputs
quaint hatch
Because some games don't accept controllers aside from 360
bronze ravine
@sharp juniper nice, hope it will work out for you
tepid plover
Ah
carmine ravine
bcoz windows is microsoft
quaint hatch
The software is different
tepid plover
I see now
slow edge
the weapons change the game but i havent found success in any of them other then the fists and heat is just the same game but just a little harder boons dont change the game a whole ton either
quaint hatch
I guess you could compare it to a virtual computer
bronze ravine
most of my games on steam accept ps4 controller, my problem is just that without mods I still have the xbox prompts
slow edge
unless you get a mad combo and like 70 artemises
quaint hatch
It just emulates the software and translates your physical inputs into that
quaint hatch
...
slow edge
or 40 keys just to get a little stronger
brisk trail
40 keys?
brisk trail
mirror?
slow edge
yeah like 1%chance to get rare boons
brisk trail
how many hours are u into the game
quaint hatch
It gets you an insane consistency boost for your runs
slow edge
almost 40
quaint hatch
yeah like 1%chance to get rare boons
Level it
Also use the green option for the last 4 perks
It's 30 m8
That's like a 1/3rd off
It's 1% per level
Up to a higher percentage
Don't judge stuff before you know it
slow edge
well i know the game just has soo much to offer and im still nowhere near mid game or finishing up early game
bronze ravine
also the boon rerolls dices combo with the keepsakes is pretty much a guarantee you will get the basic stuff you want
quaint hatch
That's the nature of a roguelite
brisk trail
cause you only use fists
slow edge
but couldnt find any other success with anything other
quaint hatch
That's on you
slow edge
i beat elysium with all
quaint hatch
Don't blame the game for it
slow edge
||and got to hades all the games but it just doesnt work||
quaint hatch
Tag the name pls
|| On both sides of the word
Thanks m8
Alternatively you can just call him redacted
slow edge
||even got to fight charon with full 3 defiences lost to him aswell||
it just feels like the difficulity curve isnt right
||like the game says get 8 heat done you get this 1 secret thing||
quaint hatch
You're right
It just feels like it to yoz
brisk trail
maybe you're using a bad build or playing the other weapons the wrong way
woeful wigeon
minotaur boss when 🤔
slow edge
maybe ill get back to it like i did few days ago
i probably burnt out because played 13 hours in 2 days
bruh
quaint hatch
I'm personally limiting myself to 1-3 runs a day
slow edge
i mean i bought the game soo im going to enjoy it to its last drops
brisk trail
i feel that, i've only done a few the past few days
shut topaz
i hate the elysium boss
brisk trail
losing repeatedly dont feel good
quaint hatch
If you're not used to roguelikes yeah
slow edge
like dude this shouldnt be a thing
||die twice to the hydra because of heat but then only lose 50 hp on elysiim||
slow edge
but the difficulity curve just doesnt feel right man
winter harbor
EM lernie?
brisk trail
i was so close to finishing 32 earlier
quaint hatch
but the difficulity curve just doesnt feel right man
Again that's on you
brisk trail
big sad
slow edge
you play the game a bit talk to ||skelly and says do 8 heat||
carmine ravine
yea theres nothing wrong when using god mod if u rly stuck
quaint hatch
Exactly
slow edge
but like winning legit and winning with god mode has diff cmon
i cant be the only 1
winning legit feels atleast 20 times easier
and winning legit after losing last seconds with god mode is even better
quaint hatch
Yeah that's the point of god mode
Certain people may not be as good in rogulites or video games
Or just wanna enjoy the story
And that helps with getting them eased into the game
slow edge
i remember having getting to the last boss beating him once paused the game did a celebtration dance
quaint hatch
Failure is the nature of a rogulite and being willing to repeat, learn and adapt
For some the frustration may be a bit too much
Understandingly so
And god mode helps with that
slow edge
||he pulled a 2nd phase on me and than when i beat the game without godmode it delt soo much better||
quaint hatch
Oh btw ||2nd phase|| is also a spoiler
Yeah ofc it'll feel better since you struggled harder
To get there
slow edge
||come on every last boss in every game has another phase||
quaint hatch
Most people don't expect it
slow edge
||i mean to be fair i didnt expect it either but i was filled with joy when i beat him i didnt think id have another pahse||
quaint hatch
He even has a ||3rd phase||
quaint hatch
That's fine m8
slow edge
||but you know what'll happen when you have no more defiences left with like 20hp and he enters 2nd phase||
quaint hatch
I don't get hit and beat him
shut topaz
also did they REALLY have to make the elysium boss a 2v1
slow edge
and your also oretty new to the game
shut topaz
elysium boss is horrible
slow edge
also did they REALLY have to make the elysium boss a 2v1
try and practice boar
quaint hatch
also did they REALLY have to make the elysium boss a 2v1
Every encounter is multiple against 1
Meg spawns ads too
slow edge
he generally does 2 swings and a jump swimg
quaint hatch
Hydra has multiple heads
shut topaz
i did focus boar
shut topaz
i didnt realize how to dodge thesius lock on until after i killed boar sadly
slow edge
fight around pillars too soo you can avoid spear
quaint hatch
It's all about learning and patience
slow edge
oh just dont stop running
quaint hatch
Also he's a minotaur
brisk trail
you mean cow
shut topaz
i didnt even know what was going on at first cause i was beating up on boar the whole time
slow edge
dude its a minatour or a beefy boar
its almost the same
the boars just gotta stand up on 2 feet and hold an axe
btw calls help a lot with thesius
espacially some1 like zeus
shut topaz
i really like Athena's call
slow edge
or an artemis full call for minatour
quaint hatch
Aphrodite full call is better
shut topaz
i try to go for Artemis stuff as much as i can cause crit chance melts bosses
slow edge
but there is like 10 arrows
quaint hatch
You said even at lv1
shut topaz
also the dionysus boon that full heals you at fountains and gives you a stacking damage buff is so good
quaint hatch
Aphro max is 2.5 guaranteed damage with charm at base level
Artemis is 1k damage with a 30%^10 chance to be 3k
shut topaz
im gonna max out aphro cause i simp for her hard
quaint hatch
I'm talking power level not preference m8
Artemis was also the first deity I maxed out
shut topaz
im hoping to go for a mostly crit chance build at some point
quaint hatch
its an easy win
Well apparently not in ur case
slow edge
aphro is just bare naked you know whats there but you gotta try for artemis
shut topaz
ill call aphro any time if you catch my drift
quaint hatch
Zeus call with smoldering air is the best
Also billowing strength
quaint hatch
ill call aphro any time if you catch my drift
No I don't because this is a christian server
quaint hatch
Don't you bash on my religion
Y'all know the "christian server" thing is a meme right?
shut topaz
im aware
quaint hatch
Aight
Just didn't wanna alienate someone bc religion
shut topaz
the wholesome christian minecraft server joke was around when i was in like. 10th grade?
brisk trail
arty only for big PP
quaint hatch
the wholesome christian minecraft server joke was around when i was in like. 10t...
Wait the joke only starts existing in 2 years?
quaint hatch
arty only for big PP
Ah I see
Weird joke
brisk trail
should I vote for Ghost of Tsushima or Hades for game of the year?
quaint hatch
Hades
quaint hatch
But to be fair
You're asking on the hades discord
brisk trail
but hades
shut topaz
im 25. so 10th grade was forever ago lol
slow edge
i sais tsushima
brisk trail
But to be fair
You're asking on the hades discord
yeah
quaint hatch
im 25. so 10th grade was forever ago lol
25-12
brisk trail
i am 12
slow edge
hades is only a rougelike game which generally ppl who like the genre can play it
but tsushima has a lot of categories that join it
brisk trail
the only game I played in the list is hades, so feels unfair to me
i'm not a fan of rougelikes but hades gud
quaint hatch
I rather support an indie studio than some triple a stuff
shut topaz
i hope hades wins goty
slow edge
it can be a souls like open world metrodevia
shut topaz
why is animal crossing even a nominee? that game was soulless
quaint hatch
Woooh boi
Prepare for a storm
brisk trail
to be fair, i don't think GoT's studio is very big either
idk much about them but a friend said they needed the win
shut topaz
dude they removed unique personalities from villagers so now its just. specific types will say the same stuff ad nauseum. no longer can villagers have personalities
villagers used to actually roast you if that was part of their traits
quaint hatch
I mean if that's what you're missing I can be of help
slow edge
but like vote for ori and the will of wisps where ever you see it
the 2nd best game of its genre
art and music are all just beatifull
the game isnt that hard its like a puzzle game with beatifull art and music to enjoy
shut topaz
yall want a real good metroidvania, Scourge: Hive is one i recommend. only on gba and ds tho. never had a pc release
slow edge
and yes im fanboying its just good
shut topaz
garfield kart only isnt goty cause thats just unfair for other games
what game can even compete with that
quaint hatch
The switch sequel
quaint hatch
As soon as it's reduced
I wanna whip it out when in drunk with my friends and be like
"Hey guys, do you wanna play a fun multiplayer game? Like mario kart but way better. It's the dark souls of kart racers"
shut topaz
i thought the dark souls of kart racers was crash team racing, since for some reason, game journos cant get used to how the drifting works
actually i think alot of mario kart players cant get used to how ctr handles drifting
quaint hatch
I'm too bad for that game too lol
I love the drifting system
But I just potatoe the whole track long
shut topaz
you get used to it, trust me
im not that good either but i have a basic understanding of how drifting and sacred blue flame works
quaint hatch
Not that they ruined it with micro transactions and my switch is way more portable
I don't see a reason unfortunately
shut topaz
the micro transactions are just for currency you get by playing matches anyway
and its only for cosmetics
so its really not that bad
on weekends you get double currency in matches
on top of the first few hours you play each day, which is also double coins
quaint hatch
Almost every form of unnecessary Microtransaction is bad
shut topaz
with how much currency you get just by playing, you really dont need to worry about ever using the microtransactions
quaint hatch
It's about the system being in
Developers wouldn't put it in there if they weren't expecting to make buck off of it
shut topaz
if its just for in game currency you can get normally, and in abundance, which is only used for cosmetics anyway, its less of an issue
quaint hatch
It is still an issue
shut topaz
i used the micros ONCE and that was to get a tawna skin i wanted but didnt have enough coins for due to me not playing often
quaint hatch
It's not about personal anecdotal experience and behaviour
It's about the system being implemented
shut topaz
im only against micros if theyre scummy, and these arent that bad
quaint hatch
It's literally in there to make money of something that was free before they patched it in
It is scummy
shut topaz
idk man i think youre overreacting
i hate microtransactions if theyre done badly, or if they give you an edge over non paying players
quaint hatch
It's not problematic for you it's problematic for people who are compulsive enough to call into Microtransactions
shut topaz
thats a them problem
quaint hatch
That's very egoistic
Yk developers just abuse the addiction of those people for money
shut topaz
see i get your point with lootboxes. mostly cause those are random
shut topaz
i know
quaint hatch
They weren't there before
shut topaz
i bought the game on release
quaint hatch
Now that's scummy
shut topaz
yes, but like i said. most people prolly wont even think about using them cause you get currency in abundance anyway
quaint hatch
It's about the principle of the Microtransactions being in
Developers bank on wales wasting their money on those
shut topaz
do you honestly think people are gonna whale on CTR of all things
quaint hatch
There's literally a presentation on how to hook people to your game to get them to sink their money into Microtransactions
It's not about the specifics it's about the principle
shut topaz
so youre complaining about a bigger issue that barely affects the specific game because said specific game implements them in a way thats non intrusive, but somehow it is intrusive?
nani
quaint hatch
It's intrusive because it hampered something that was free before it's implementation
The implementation of it is wholly unnecessary
shut topaz
yes, it was unneccessary, but it also doesnt affect the game experience in anyway
quaint hatch
Especially because the funds from the Microtransactions don't go towards game support since support has been discontinued
quaint hatch
It's not about specific names
They didn't invent it
They are just the worst examples for it
shut topaz
ea and blizzard do it in dumb, greedy ways. ctr does it to get extra currency you can get for free in big amounts so most people wont even use them
quaint hatch
Microtransactions aren't In games as an option
They're there to make money
And thusly the game is gonna be built in some way that more or less encourages the
The more subtle the better
shut topaz
honestly anyone who whales on ctr has bigger issues than "oh no microtransactions in muh vidya gaems"
quaint hatch
And you already spent money on them and are defending it
So it works
You're hanging on too a specific game go much
shut topaz
because this isnt a bad use of micros. unnecessary, but not bad.
quaint hatch
Sure man just keep feeding the triple a studios and defending them
They won't give you anything back
The only thing they are interested in is money
shut topaz
implying id normally defend acti
quaint hatch
Every micro in unnecessary
Aside from if they're in a F2P game
hot flame
ı dont get it hades have micros lmao
quaint hatch
You're just defending the idea of Microtransactions my dude
So you're defending every studio that uses them in a way you tolerate
shut topaz
im defending them if they dont affect gameplay
shut topaz
because im not so jaded as to see every bit of microtransactions as bad?
quaint hatch
Just so developers that already have millions can make even more?
I think you're just way too linient
shut topaz
"oh no, people can use money to get cosmetics that dont affect gameplay, oh no, people with issues who prolly shouldnt be playing games like this are playing the game and spending way too much money"
quaint hatch
Again victim blaming is very egoistic and harmful
shut topaz
oh yeah cause theyre the victim for not doing research on the game they wanna buy
quaint hatch
Also since you're 25, you should remember cosmetics being unlockable right? For free? Yk
shut topaz
yes
quaint hatch
Why do you tolerate it now?
Why do you think they implemented payment for that?
More money?
shut topaz
im saying if the free option to unlock cosmetics isnt gimped to high heck due to micros, theres no issue. compared to gimping the free option so youre forced to pay
quaint hatch
oh yeah cause theyre the victim for not doing research on the game they wanna bu...
That's not how addiction works
Are you gonna tell someone who's addicted to chemical: "oh maybe you should've just done more research on it before you took it"?
It always was a free option before
shut topaz
yes. and as long as the free option isnt gimped i have no issue
quaint hatch
And the game will psychologically encourage you to buy the micro transactions
slow edge
anf this is what i come back to
quaint hatch
Always fun
slow edge
as a gacha nerd gotta agree with rollingstone here
shut topaz
ctr specifically doesnt encourage you to do that. i can think of other games that do. mostly by EA, other activision games, blizzard. anything with lootboxes is bad, and anything that gimps the free way to enoucrage spending is bad
also yes gachas are horrid for that
quaint hatch
You think they don't
And that's the thing
If you are against the worst version of the principle you gotta damn the principle m8
shut topaz
so by your logic because i hate unfairly hard games i should hate all hard games
lmao
maiden urchin
skins are the only acceptable mtx imo
shut topaz
THANK YOU
quaint hatch
It's ignorant to just let stuff slide because its comfortable to you or not affecting you
quaint hatch
so by your logic because i hate unfairly hard games i should hate all hard games
That's has nothing to do with the specific topic
Although my principle statement was too broad
shut topaz
your principle statement was very broad yes
just cause i hate the most extreme version of thing doesnt mean i hate thing ewntirely
quaint hatch
Microtransactions are something different in F2P but that's because the game relies on it to get monetization overall
Not in a fully paid game
maiden urchin
That much is true
quaint hatch
Or a paid game in general
shut topaz
oh i agree micros in paid games are dumb. i just think that certain games handle it much worse than others
quaint hatch
oh i agree micros in paid games are dumb. i just think that certain games handle...
That's right
But the concept of Microtransactions in paid games Is still bad
I'm not saying ctr is on the same level as metal gear survive
shut topaz
no. i already said the inclusion of micros was unnecessary. but i also said that you get so much currency in loads just by playing that most people have no need to even use the micros, especially since coins are just for dinky comsmetics anyway
quaint hatch
I'm just saying it's still uncalled for
Hmm but you still paid for Microtransactions in ctr right?
shut topaz
once.
shut topaz
i also hadnt [played that entire event
quaint hatch
Did you maybe do it because you didn't have enou currency?
quaint hatch
i also hadnt [played that entire event
That's a tactic to get you to pay
And it worked
shut topaz
it was one skin and i havent touched the micros since
maiden urchin
you can also be bad at pleasuring your partner regardless of size, take it from me
quaint hatch
And you can't deny that
shut topaz
i spent far more on league of legends
shut topaz
i spent like 500 on league skins
quaint hatch
And you're arguing against me?
shut topaz
but league is f2p and i liked it
quaint hatch
I can see that
On some small level
sage tartan
but what if the game is good and u just want to support it
shut topaz
yes
quaint hatch
It again
But compelled you to to pay with the events
And you fell for it
quaint hatch
but what if the game is good and u just want to support it
You already supported the game by paying 60 bucks
As I said for f2p it's a different story
sage tartan
wait, are we talking F2p or actually games we had to paid for
then thats a different story
quaint hatch
Microtransactions in general
shut topaz
keep in mind the event was ending that night in ctr. the thing i will concede is skins being on a rotation is big dumb. and this was before they added micros.
sage tartan
Stuff like seasonal passes in paid games really turns me down from playing it
quaint hatch
once.
You literally defended ctr for pulling money out of your pocket for something you called unnecessary and not worth spending money on because you earn enough for free
Yet you did
shut topaz
because i hadnt touched the game in like. 4 weeks at that point
quaint hatch
Yep and they put skins on rotation you you feel like you're compelled to spend money on them for fear of missing out
That's a common tactic
sage tartan
CTR? Crash Team Racing?
shut topaz
yes
quaint hatch
Ye
sage tartan
Didnt even realize you can put microtransactions into games like that LMao
shut topaz
i already said they had skins on rotation before they added micros
it was dumb then and dumb now
quaint hatch
You cant tell me putting skins on rotation so you feel compelled to buy the skins because they will vanish otherwise isn't scummy and unnecessary
And manipulative
shut topaz
i literally just said it was dumb
quaint hatch
And before you argued the Microtransactions in it weren't
tepid plover
shut topaz
i did say the micros are dumb and unnecessary, but i also said it doesnt affect gameplay experience
quaint hatch
@shut topaz Oh also sry if I called you dude/man if it's not the right pronoun
shut topaz
im a dude
tepid plover
Me2
quaint hatch
i did say the micros are dumb and unnecessary, but i also said it doesnt affect ...
It's dumb and unnecessary unless it's in a F2P and even there it can be badly implemented
Aight just want to make sure
shut topaz
like i do miss the days when you didnt have microtransactions in vidya
quaint hatch
like i do miss the days when you didnt have microtransactions in vidya
And yet you defend it
Drop your phone in the toilet ez
shut topaz
i never defended them, i said some ways are less intrusive than others
quaint hatch
And you said. The less intrusive ones are fine
shut topaz
and ctrs was not intrusive enough for me to give a darn
quaint hatch
So you defended it
Also saying not intrusive enough for you to give a darn is very egoistic again
Oh yes I like one step from eden
shut topaz
how is it eogistic? im speaking from personal experience, also from many other people i know who played who never even touched the microtransactions
quaint hatch
Especially because it has skins not gated behind a Microtransaction, u blocks me through skill
quaint hatch
how is it eogistic? im speaking from personal experience, also from many other p...
Bc you don't seem to care about the problems it might cause for other people
As long as it doesn't affect you
But let's get back to taking about one step from eden on this one step from eden server
sage tartan
one step from eden seems pretty cool
quaint hatch
Any tips I'm struggling for clears?
shut topaz
what we should talk about is how hades is not goty and destroy all humans is
seriously, that game
so good
quaint hatch
Probably because it has Microtransactions in it
One step from eden
I said the games name so it pertains to the topic
shut topaz
destroy all humans has one dlc and thats just a skin pack. everything else in game is unlockable
quaint hatch
I'm taking the p*** m8
quaint hatch
Yeah he kinda doesn't want to be
rancid plinth
I need death defiance
tepid plover
@quaint hatch get better
shut topaz
death defiance x2 is so handy
i need to save up for x3
mostly cause the thesius boss wrecked my anus
quaint hatch
You forgot don't get hit
tepid plover
He tends to do that
sage tartan
Dont worry you'll get a hang of his moveset
shut topaz
im playing with god mode till i get good enough at dodging and stuff
god mode makes for good practice
sage tartan
maiden urchin
em1 has variety
shut topaz
also i like the differences in the tartarus bosses
maiden urchin
and lernie without em2
quaint hatch
EM, BP and MM are so fun
shut topaz
yo what if Hades had co-op
tepid plover
No
shut topaz
yes
quaint hatch
200+ hrs on hades
Still content
astral swift
maiden urchin
if you don’t like it don’t play it
tepid plover
Facts lol
sage tartan
roguelike coop
astral swift
Wut happened here
quiet gull
Daedalus doesnt always appear in first biome lmao
shut topaz
yeah Hades has alot of random stuff, but because it has an actual plot, some stuff is kinda fixed
tepid plover
You give people some freedom and they forget the genre revolves on rng
quaint hatch
There's over 300k voicelines and stories my m8
quaint hatch
Wut happened here
I did
shut topaz
i was floored when i found out dialogue changes each run
quaint hatch
Thought you knew me enough by know
astral swift
Thought you knew me enough by know
My b 
maiden urchin
just wait until you find out about the animations
beat 40 heat before you say there’s no content
shut topaz
idk man i think youre just being way too negative about a game with hundreds of hours of content
quiet gull
@signal spoke @hexed smelt mods help
shut topaz
hades is the best roguelike ive played in years
quiet gull
Just block and move on, people
quaint hatch
idk man i think youre just being way too negative about a game with hundreds of ...
He's trolling
shut topaz
its hard to tell bait from being genuine sometimes
quiet gull
I'm guessing he was banned and this is an alt?
sage tartan
His name is pretty obvious though
quaint hatch
I'm guessing he was banned and this is an alt?
Is it maybe the dino guy from a few days ago?
quiet gull
Is it maybe the dino guy from a few days ago?
I missed that one, actually
shut topaz
ill give him credit for making me believe he was serious tho. good bait. i r8 8/8
quaint hatch
Look man I'm already enough toxicity for this serves
You would overload it
tepid plover
quaint hatch
I missed that one, actually
How so
shut topaz
rolling youre not toxic
fringe sentinel
Does attack speed effect charge up time, for things like guan yu
astral swift
Ah cannae imagine spending time trolling strangers I'd use that time to eat 
quiet gull
I mean I didnt see whatever happened that ended in a banned dude
shut topaz
@astral swift cannae? you irish?
quaint hatch
No worries wombat I'm only half serious
I'm just very stubborn when it comes to arguments
Thanks though
astral swift
<@!640526808361599002> cannae? you irish?
Nuo just someone who randomly types in different accents
fringe sentinel
Lamw
shut topaz
i only hear irish or scots say cannae
quiet gull
Thanks mods, btw
quaint hatch
Main problem is he was homophobic and racist
shut topaz
oh no
quaint hatch
The dino guy
versed dagger
I hope Hades wins Game of the Year on steam and at the game awards
shut topaz
see, i try to avoid certain jokes around certain people cause theyll think im homophobic even tho im bi ;_;
astral swift
The accent typing I mean
Ty for clarifying
quaint hatch
Also egg draws
astral swift
*attempts
cedar imp
oh, did i miss some trolling here?
quaint hatch
Somewhat
shut topaz
i tried introducing a friend of mine to my gf and my friends really edgy and cant control himself. dude dropped the f slur in front of her and i was like DUDE CHILL
hexed smelt
The problem is being taken care of, but I would like to remind everyone that this is the Hades discussion channel.
astral swift
Also egg draws
lemme go add my pronouns
quaint hatch
Thanks
astral swift
The problem is being taken care of, but I would like to remind everyone that thi...
Yith it's taim to gush aboot Hypnos
cedar imp
fated reroll on hammer when
shut topaz
i simp for Aphrodite
cedar imp
i simp for Aphrodite
same
quaint hatch
~~Yith it's taim to gush aboot Hypnos~~
Thanks again
Sry for using the wrong pronouns
tepid plover
fated reroll on hammer when
Never
cedar imp
i'm trying to make her legendary work on aspect of ||lucifer||
astral swift
Thanks again
Sry for using the wrong pronouns
Isss no biggie am not really big?(I dunno the word) on them
quaint hatch
Isss no biggie <:failbag:459075377814568960> am not really big?(I dunno the word...
Ah ok
I just try to make it a point to address people the way they prefer yk
quaint hatch
i'm trying to make her legendary work on aspect of ||lucifer||
Whose?
astral swift
Aphro's
quaint hatch
Oh ok
Why especially on secret rail?
tepid plover
Cause lasers go brr
cedar imp
||eternal chamber|| and i forgot the one that speeds up (not ramp) the ||laser||
rose nexus
i'm trying to make her legendary work on aspect of ||lucifer||
Use Zeus with that aaaa
Lol who are you
quaint hatch
@hexed smelt
shut topaz
again with this
cedar imp
Use Zeus with that aaaa
that's the usual thing but i'm experimenting right now
rose nexus
that's the usual thing but i'm experimenting right now
Aaa nice nice okie
This is for hades, not rules
shut topaz
look if youre gonna troll, at least be funny
tepid plover
Lmfao this guy is having a lot of fun, I like him
Dont see a lot of trolls everyday
tepid plover
He was muted, not banned
rose nexus
shut topaz
if Meg would just step on me thatd be great
glacial lagoon
who now?
hexed smelt
They were muted while we reached out via DM. Clearly that hasn't worked.
tepid plover
Yeah you can lol
rose nexus
if Meg would just step on me thatd be great
Omg stop
cedar imp
this is hades for ya boyo
shut topaz
hey let me simp for Meg
tepid plover
Just ban him lol
quaint hatch
I'm not fond of children either but calling them worthless is just uncalled for
cedar imp
yes
tepid plover
Yes
rose nexus
hey let me simp for Meg
astral swift
Every weapon is viable
quaint hatch
Since there are also children on this discord
shut topaz
yeah man, i have a 3 year old nephew i love very much
tepid plover
God Ariana grande emotes, what is this 2012
glacial lagoon
it's irrelevant to the topic of the channel
rose nexus
God Ariana grande emotes, what is this 2012
U do realize she broke a Beatles record 2 years ago uwu
glacial lagoon
hey let me simp for Meg
she's pretty cool
tepid plover
You do realize I kinda don't care tho, not mean to be rude or anything
quaint hatch
Simp for everyone
glacial lagoon
hypnos was so annoying and rude I honestly wish we could use weapons in the house
tepid plover
I simp bouldy
rose nexus
You do realize I kinda don't care tho, not mean to be rude or anything
Then don’t speak o.o simple
shut topaz
arianna grande isnt my thing. imo shes overrated
tepid plover
I speak all I want lol wtf
quaint hatch
It's about being inclusive m8
tepid plover
^
glacial lagoon
^
rose nexus
quaint hatch
Lovingly I assume?
tepid plover
Lovingly I assume?
Roughly
hexed smelt
Don't try and dodge the swear filter, please.
quaint hatch
What else
glacial lagoon
my apologies
rose nexus
I need 2 more achievements to perfect hades and it’s driving me crazy
quaint hatch
Don't encourage him
glacial lagoon
it's ad-homonym potential
hexed smelt
And with that, we can all get back to the actual purpose of this channel, which is discussing Hades.
chilly stump
It's part of respecting the rules of the server that we've put in place.
narrow hemlock
so hades is a cool game, who else loves it :)
shut topaz
oh he was b&?
cedar imp
quaint hatch
Let's talk about on step from eden in this one step from eden channel
tepid plover
Imagine hating hypnos
quaint hatch
Bouldy is the best character in one step from eden
glacial lagoon
it does that?
carmine ravine
no point garden empty
astral swift
when will the ||garden|| open
||When you reach the credits||
quiet gull
when will the ||garden|| open
The same time it opens for everyone else
quaint hatch
when will the ||garden|| open
Tag that pls
glacial lagoon
it's a question
brisk trail
I would like to say thanks to the person who was like "just throw the spear" bc that's worked out really well for me
quaint hatch
It's a spoiler
tepid plover
Bouldy is the best character period
glacial lagoon
i mean it's clear there's a locked garden to the right of the house
rose nexus
it's a question
Ya mark spoilers like ||this|| boyo
carmine ravine
ur mom is a spoiler, i mean zags mom
quaint hatch
Fair
brisk trail
dont even have to focus on attacking or anything I just throw the spear
glacial lagoon
||zags mom||
rose nexus
Oooo, where do I get the All games role ? I went crazy with the steam sale aha
glacial lagoon
spear stun lock is awesome
quaint hatch
#bot-commands
astral swift
dont even have to focus on attacking or anything I just throw the spear
You're Achilles now, bud
rose nexus
<#504373613965737984>
Ty
carmine ravine
i highly dislike dusa personally
glacial lagoon
in a constant state of disgust
shut topaz
i LOVE Dusa
narrow hemlock
do you have anything nice to say about any of the characters mate 🤧
brisk trail
big dusa fan
carmine ravine
zags gud
quiet gull
i highly dislike dusa personally
BAN THIS FILTH
shut topaz
Dusa is pure and good and needs to be protected
glacial lagoon
Dusa is nicer than pretty much everyone in the house
shut topaz
anyone who lewds Dusa gets the firing squad
rose nexus
BAN THIS FILTH
Seconded
carmine ravine
nyx is nicer than dusa lol
cedar imp
dw about the spoils. i'm just venting on the bug i got here and then
quaint hatch
Dusa can't be hated
quiet gull
Understandable have a nice day
rose nexus
nyx is nicer than dusa lol
Are u serious
rose nexus
ya haven’t played enough lmao
carmine ravine
oOoH
glacial lagoon
Nyx can get snappy
rose nexus
HEHEHE
quaint hatch
Idk why you're laughing
carmine ravine
nyx can be overbearing, buts shes never bad
quaint hatch
I can discuss bouldy s dialogue for hours on end
rose nexus
Idk why you're laughing
Nyx and dusa
quaint hatch
nyx can be overbearing, buts shes never bad
And dusa is?
cedar imp
. . . .
carmine ravine
i can discuss it too, on silence
quaint hatch
No you're doing it wrong
rose nexus
Nyx be like the mom who tells you what kids you can and can’t play with 👀
carmine ravine
dusa is whining and shrieking on high pitch, no thanks
quaint hatch
She's trying her best
rose nexus
dusa is whining and shrieking on high pitch, no thanks
Dusa needs to be protected at all costs excuse me
tepid plover
Shes not trying, she's doing the best
glacial lagoon
romance Nyx
quaint hatch
Romance bouldy
quaint hatch
romance Nyx
Woah there Oedipus
carmine ravine
tecnically not
glacial lagoon
Oedipus, a play I haven't seen
rose nexus
I’m convinced Thanatos straightens and cuts his hair
carmine ravine
i believe the gods are born with their clothes, its just the way it is
quaint hatch
So I am a god after all?
astral swift
I’m convinced Thanatos straightens and cuts his hair
There's a comic of that
glacial lagoon
aphrodiety?
rose nexus
i believe the gods are born with their clothes, its just the way it is
His hair is different than clothes though
quaint hatch
Hair is just clothes
rose nexus
ya, just like how u gotta cut your clothes if they get too big
glacial lagoon
ikr
astral swift
aphrodiety?
Goddess of weightloss
carmine ravine
aphro clothes is her hair so
rose nexus
I want bloopers
glacial lagoon
really good dirrection too, they feel like real people
brisk trail
wonder if bophades will ever make an appearance
glacial lagoon
arty x bouldy?
tepid plover
Probably bc I relate in giving people horrible advice
I dont understand this, if someone gives great advice in the game, is hypnos
carmine ravine
hypnos says: ||Just dont get hit|| good advice
tepid plover
Have you tried not standing in the way?
quiet gull
The best advice, I'd argue
rose nexus
I dont understand this, if someone gives great advice in the game, is hypnos
If someone asks me for help in hades,I just tell them to not get hit
brisk trail
lmao that reminds me of what I used to say at smash tournaments
quiet gull
If someone asks me for help in hades,I just tell them to not get hit
I do this unironically
brisk trail
"don't get hit!!"
rose nexus
Some people don’t agree lmao
glacial lagoon
no one seems to know who redacted is
tepid plover
Legitimately just dont get hit
brisk trail
most advice boils down to that anyways
quaint hatch
Theres nothing wrong about that advice
astral swift
Ares would be proud
narrow hemlock
glacial lagoon
I just got to my 80th run
brisk trail
I need to go legendary/duo hunting
glacial lagoon
that one is very difficult
brisk trail
it'll be easier with the ||boon codex upgrade|| I think
brisk trail
i think that zag spear is my favorite aspect for it lol
quaint hatch
Oof
brisk trail
just throw the spear
quaint hatch
Hades is the same
But it gives you +150% to your special if you apply the debuff
Also if you're building special try the explosive launcher hammer
(if you didn't already)
brisk trail
love that
wait, the sweep debuff is only for the throw?
for all attacks
i like never ever use the spears regular attack lol
vital sparrow
why
brisk trail
Oh, ok
For a moment I thougt I've been using the papa aspect wrong from all my time in game 
quaint hatch
i like never ever use the spears regular attack lol
Serrated point
quaint hatch
Oh, ok
For a moment I thougt I've been using the papa aspect wrong from all my t...
Attack and special
Dash strike too
brisk trail
serrated point always got me killed during redacted fight
quaint hatch
It has a higher risk reward then explosive launcher
brisk trail
i think ill be way better at handling it now though
considering ive done likje 70 runs since then
rose nexus
If I give up mid run, do I lose everything I’ve gotten since I started ?
quaint hatch
If I give up mid run, do I lose everything I’ve gotten since I started ?
Yes
The seed will stay the same tho
rose nexus
Yes
The seed will stay the same tho
What seed
manic bobcat
Basically your save is reverted to the moment you enter the courtyard before the run.
Seed means the RNG determination will be the same, namely your starting boons.
If you hate your starting options, giving up and reset won't help you. (Again, because the save simply "rolls back" to its previous state).
rose nexus
Oh I was just gonna give up bc ||I fat fingered thans summon twice||
flat vapor
honestly fair
manic bobcat
oh yeah then you are totally fine. you will start again from Tartarus, obviously
rose nexus
I’m in elysium aaaaaahaaa
narrow hemlock
could just suicide the run so you at least keep your resources maybe
quaint hatch
I would give up bc I'm using ||thans summon||
narrow hemlock
if youre already in elysium lol
dire ether
Is it possible to get partingshot with crush flare (beowulf) or would I necessarily need to get an aphro attack since crush flare =/= frush shot
*crush
dire ether
?
quaint hatch
Flares have been removed as req on pc afaik
The switch hasn't received a patch since release
dire ether
So, if i get aphro attack and athena something, would parting shot still affect my crush flare damage though?
quaint hatch
Idk how it is on pc
I'm assuming yes since they haven't changed the core interaction band just removed the flares as a req
exotic furnace
did anyone else just quit hades after facing some difficulties?
i played non stop for a week until facing em4 a few times and then i was like "ugh this is so hard" and now i havent played in a few days
quaint hatch
Burn out happens
tiny grove
em4 is optional as well
quaint hatch
If I have an awful run I stop playing it for the day
exotic furnace
yeah but it gives so much heat
quaint hatch
But like cursed awful run
exotic furnace
plus i dont want to back out form a challenge, ironically
quaint hatch
On TD2 and up it takes way too much time
exotic furnace
td2?
narrow hemlock
tight deadline
quaint hatch
Tight deadline
narrow hemlock
its more forgiving in its current state than it was prior to launch
exotic furnace
i only need 9 heat now, so i can still do 2 runs at em4
glacial lagoon
9 minutes still seems crazy fast to me
quaint hatch
TD1 is free heat
quaint hatch
That's 36 minutes
narrow hemlock
time rolls over between biomes now, it didnt previously
tepid plover
Em4 is free 10 heat
exotic furnace
wait does styx count as a region?
quaint hatch
Not with TD3
tepid plover
For?
quaint hatch
Ofc
narrow hemlock
ofc lol
glacial lagoon
oh I didn't know that, I can kill the boss from asphodel in like 3 minutes so maybe not so bad
tepid plover
Oh yeah
exotic furnace
so you need to defeat the final boss within the time limit as well?
tepid plover
Yes
quaint hatch
Ofc
exotic furnace
fuuuuug
tepid plover
Whatd ya think
exotic furnace
i always take like 35-40 minutes though
i dont know how long it took last time i did em4
quaint hatch
Waste less time
glacial lagoon
and boon selections
exotic furnace
hmm
glacial lagoon
I think the time is tied to the in game timer- so yes
exotic furnace
i guess i could fight faster
quaint hatch
Timer pauses in than room, npc room, pause menu, codex, boon selection
Also if you're deciding on which room to take open codex or pause and don't let the timer run
narrow hemlock
you can always give td1 a try and see how you fare, and if its not enough time just keep playing until you can get faster times more consistently and try again
glacial lagoon
just take more damage and get rid of invincibility frames between hits
woeful wigeon
hey busters
exotic furnace
i can definitely do region 1 super fast, and region 2 i can do pretty quickly too
hey shadow
glacial lagoon
the boss ability and benefits package are also easy heat
quaint hatch
Mm also
exotic furnace
boss ability is em, i already have em4
glacial lagoon
oh jeez
quaint hatch
Up to EM3 is free
exotic furnace
is benefits easy heat? some of the enemigos are kinda hard
quaint hatch
EM4 takes too much time
glacial lagoon
it's a quest on the scroll of minor fates
quaint hatch
i played non stop for a week until facing em4 a few times and then i was like "u...
You do?
exotic furnace
the spear dudes become pretty strong with benefits
quaint hatch
Yes but it trains you to not waste time and tighten up your runs
Spear dudes and numb skulls can become really annoying
exotic furnace
yeah its a bit paradoxical, i like fighting em4 but at the same time i feel a bit overwhelmed at the difficulty
because it takes a lot of concentration
also the music is cool
shut topaz
okay the final boss just wrecked my anus
tepid plover
i guess i could fight faster
You just gave yourself a hypnos advice
exotic furnace
haha
quaint hatch
And some people say he doesn't give good advice
exotic furnace
okay the final boss just wrecked my anus
they should rename hades' title to this
or maybe make it the subtitle
quaint hatch
The final boss is yourself