#h1-discussion

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lethal socket
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best boon from aries

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?

cosmic stone
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My favourite is the one that boosts specia, attack and I think cast damage

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But there isn’t a “best boon”

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As you can use stuff with like Chaos or Chiron and use special Ares and use the stacking Ares boon

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Then you could say differently

lethal socket
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i mean what do yuo recommend thank you though

kind bobcat
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urge to kill is nice

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the one that gives flat % to attack special and cast is nice

lethal socket
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yeah thats whta i got

kind bobcat
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are you asking on advice for a current run? because knowing some of the other stuff you have will enable us to make recommendations

lethal socket
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i died

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i feel i shodnt of got aspect of hades on the spear

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i hate that i cant regen my cast now

kind bobcat
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i have to recommend serrated point as an upgrade on the spear

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it's the first run/weapon i beat the game with

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it allows your dash attack to hit 3 times for -25%(?) dash distance

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so if you run a stacking build like for example dio, every dash strike applies it 3 times

lethal socket
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i dont know wehere that is

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im sorry'

kind bobcat
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it comes from a daedelous hammer

lethal socket
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im new to the game

kind bobcat
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ya it's ok

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it's just a weapons upgrade

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so you would just have to find it

lethal socket
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oh ok thank you for advice

kind bobcat
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yup!

dark scroll
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You can easily try it all out. You'll die plenty of times!

kind bobcat
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very true

alpine fulcrum
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i almost feel like this game has too much dialogue

kind bobcat
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really? i like it!

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it's so well done!

dark scroll
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Delete that right now.

kind bobcat
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ya delete that right now!

alpine fulcrum
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plenty of it is good, but some of it gets kind of vague and fillery

kind bobcat
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there are some i skip

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for example, always skip the dialogue for the boss of tartarus

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byeee

lethal socket
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how do mi get stuff out of secret stash

kind bobcat
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secret stash?

lethal socket
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yeah

kind bobcat
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where is that

lethal socket
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keepsakes

dark scroll
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Just keep playing. 🙂

lethal socket
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ok

dark scroll
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Thats all stuff that will show itself quite soon if you do some more runs.

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Keep playing, talking, etc.

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Do quests, contracts (if unlocked).

lethal socket
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i only have 51 runs so'

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and i have gotten to hades once

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i ussaly die at where you have to pass charon

sage depot
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That's ok, everyone has their own pace. There is still a lot of game and experience ahead of you 🙂

lethal socket
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ok thank you imma head out

alpine fulcrum
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lots of talk about how smoothly the house is running

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running what, i'm the only one who actually does anything around here

sage depot
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have you met Dusa? not sure how far into the game you are

alpine fulcrum
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yeah she claims to be cleaning a lot, but how?

rich grotto
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all the other characters do things while you're not around, obviously.

alpine fulcrum
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convenient...

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thats what i tell my boss too

sage depot
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😉

rich grotto
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except hypnos. hypnos probably doesn't do anything when you're not around.

alpine fulcrum
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||also the storyline with her getting fired felt like forced drama||

rich grotto
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unless i mashed through the dialog, i don't think i saw that happen. ||i saw her get yelled at, and threatened with firing, but not fired.||

alpine fulcrum
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you havent gotten there yet then, it goes on for a while and everyone makes a big deal about it

rich grotto
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really! i'm post-epilogue and her whole situation seems to be stable.

alpine fulcrum
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did you max out affection with her

rich grotto
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yeah

alpine fulcrum
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idk seems like triggering certain things in this game can be finicky

rich grotto
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i don't think i ever actually got ||astarius' autograph either|| but i still ended up maxing out hypnos friendship.

cedar remnant
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good boons for ||aspect of gilgamesh||?

quaint hatch
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@cedar remnant ||Gilgamesh aphro  ,artemis,dio, athena.
PS with 2 debuffs. and debuffs must be applyed befor you use miam, Heart rend,clean kill,rusthless reflex,Sweet Surrender
ideal setup :Athena attack,Aphro special,artemis cast|!infernal soul!arty attack, aphro special, cast unimportant but anything that lodges in enemies is fine. Lodge 1 in bosses and use the other 2 for lightning rods, dash unimportant but literally anything is good - aphro dash is nice QoL, zeus call||

cedar remnant
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Thanks man

rancid ember
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Hmm... What attack boon goes well with Achilles spear?

quaint hatch
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You usually go for casts

rancid ember
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True

quaint hatch
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So aside casts other boons are only relevant for duos

cedar remnant
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Achilles Spear? 😳

rancid ember
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The spear has an aspect of Achilles

cedar remnant
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Oh, so it does

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didn't know its name

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sorry 😅

rancid ember
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Hm... maybe Artemis is good to aim for? Her cast is pretty good, and lodges in the enemy

quaint hatch
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What for?

quaint hatch
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The rest is duo related

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You can theoretically also play achilles for attack but I find it just becomes a worse hades spear then
Since you need to refresh every 4 attacks instead of every 10 secs

rancid ember
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Yeah, that's fair

kind bobcat
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i tended to use the vanilla spear with the right hammer upgrades

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im going to plug serrated point again because it's just that good

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with dio attack so everything gets poisoned

quaint hatch
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No need to xD

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Hades is still better with that

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125% damage boost

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More

kind bobcat
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to the dash attack as well?

quaint hatch
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Zag only has 25% right?

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Should be

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Maybe try in courtyard
Or I'll try it after my run is done

kind bobcat
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ah i see

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yeah so after the punishing sweep debuff attacks/specials get 25% more damage

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i never got the hades aspect

quaint hatch
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No hades give 150% at max

kind bobcat
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oh gotcha, i miscopied

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ya i suppose that would make the serrated point stronger

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but with the right boon it can win a run by itself

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cause you're just dash kiting and aoe damaging/slowing

quaint hatch
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I like special more on hades but it's personal preference at this point obvs

kind bobcat
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i mean we're comparing two completely different things here

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and even so, all im saying is the serrated point is extremely strong

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by itself or with stuff like what your recommending

quaint hatch
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We all should know about the power of serrated ^^

cedar remnant
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Explosive upper gets rid of maim?

quaint hatch
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Why should it?

cedar remnant
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it looks like it does

carmine ravine
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it dont

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it spplies maim aoe

cedar remnant
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huh

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the little claw mark isn't coming up

carmine ravine
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dash upper, not just upper

cedar remnant
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yeah

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maybe I'm not hitting them

carmine ravine
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ye the hidden fist is like my most used so i tried that a lot and its fine

cedar remnant
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Oh yeah it is there

quaint hatch
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You have to hit with dash upper

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Normal upper doesn't apply

cedar remnant
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looks like I was killing em too fast to see it...

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I see it on meg though

quaint hatch
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What a problem to have xD

cedar remnant
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hehe

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I'm not very good with the fisties

sage depot
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same

austere jacinth
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I love the fists.

cedar remnant
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More of a bow fan, myself

quaint hatch
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No joke, with time I've come to like almost every aspect

stray dagger
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I use the bow the most. I’m horrible with melee attacks and I’m trying to improve by practicing more with them to get titan blood.

cedar remnant
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^^ big agree

quaint hatch
cedar remnant
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I just have to work on my melee

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I have to say, though, I am a big fan of ||arthur||, it's just a lot of fun

astral swift
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I used melee weapons so much I don't know how to shoot from a range shadegrief

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They're getting shot straight in the forehead shadegrief

carmine ravine
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yeah i use my bow like a melee

quaint hatch
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At least you know how to drawsquirtnya

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Every weapon is a melee weapon
change my mind

astral swift
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stares at unused sketchbook

quaint hatch
cedar remnant
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stares at warehouse of logs

astral swift
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Aight time to put down da vidya game and go practice zaglol

quaint hatch
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Hell yeah

cedar remnant
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I really suck at fists

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as in, just died to ||hades|| suck at fists

robust sundial
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so, you just don't suck

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if you sucked you wouldn't make it out of tartarus' first room

cedar remnant
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I guess

robust sundial
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you went as far as redacted, that's already very well. Don't put yourself down like that

cedar remnant
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i was using the +20% damage from enemies heat as well

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A little too confident, I thought ||gilgamesh|| would make it a lot easier. It didn't.

sage depot
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Redacted isn't easy for everyone, n omatter the weapon lol

cedar remnant
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I guess

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I've beaten him 20 times though, it feels a bit disheartening to lose to him

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and also break an 8 win streak

quaint hatch
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Bound to happen with higher difficulty

sage depot
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Completely understand, but it's bound to happen at some point 😛

brisk trail
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overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

quaint hatch
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Eh more like fast and insidious

brisk trail
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my first run with hidden spear was going very smooth until a sloppy final boss

cedar remnant
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btw is ||charon fight|| random? I've had friends who've played a lot less than me get it and I haven't got it once in my 52 runs

quaint hatch
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Chance to appear is random

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Never in pre boss shop

brisk trail
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ive had it appear once in 48 runs

cedar remnant
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huh

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well, I'm known to be unlucky in things like this

carmine ravine
quaint hatch
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Tiny Vermin

carmine ravine
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not that either

sage depot
runic agate
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I want to kill myself rn

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I killed hades and died at the same time

lethal socket
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im at the hades fight right now

runic agate
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Dont do as I did

lethal socket
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im haveing an insane run with aspect of hades on the spear

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ok lmao

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last trime i fauht hades i didnt realize he had a second stage

runic agate
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I'm so mad

lethal socket
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si i kinda screwed up but i think i got it

runic agate
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I literally killed hades' second phase at the same time I died

lethal socket
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good luck on your next run

runic agate
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I'm going to murder thins game with aspect of eris

lethal socket
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ok lmao

runic agate
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I'm still so mad though

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PREPARE TO DIE HADES

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(the game )

quaint hatch
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Still spoilies

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Since you implied

alpine fulcrum
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i have everyone maxed out on affection and all the pets maxed, guess i can trade ambrosia for blood now

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not gonna stress about badges/themes

lethal socket
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i fing died

runic agate
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RIP

tepid plover
alpine fulcrum
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feels like its really not easy to get extra casts

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usually end up settling for +cast damage at chaos instead

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starting to think the easiest thing with achilles spear might be to just go demeter cast

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with the sticking casts you're just crossing your fingers for extra casts, rapid reload or both

quaint hatch
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Achilles is for non sticking casts

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But hunting blades and blizzard shot do a better job

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Meme beam still fun tho

alpine fulcrum
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i dont want to rely on getting a duo tho

quaint hatch
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...

molten nymph
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...beam needs duo

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try dio i guess

alpine fulcrum
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it helps a ton but ive done it without it

brisk trail
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who did you guys get?

quaint hatch
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Ye ofc you can do it without

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On low heats anything goes

alpine fulcrum
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though i just beat ||em4|| for the first time and that would not work without demeter/artemis duo

quaint hatch
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Unless you're playing on like 40+ you're "not relying on duos" mentality is holding you back build wise

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Just EM4 ist still low heat my man

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No cap

alpine fulcrum
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idk sometimes i fish hard for a duo and just dont get it

quaint hatch
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That's the nature of roguelites

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There's bound to be trash runs lol

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But usually keepsakes, mirror and rerolls makes it very likely

alpine fulcrum
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no....im not truly skilled until i stop dying altogether

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*dramatic anime pose*

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pierced butterfly, high confidence, final destination

quaint hatch
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Wait

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No items

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Cheater

alpine fulcrum
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actually i dont know how to select 'no keepsake'

molten nymph
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zag aspect only

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by picking orpheus’

alpine fulcrum
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what?

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that doesnt seem TOO bad

quaint hatch
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Use orpheus keepsake

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It's basically no keepsake

lethal socket
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zagy

alpine fulcrum
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but then i dont know the distance rules

quaint hatch
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Sniper shot is bad for the same reason

molten nymph
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i remember trying it out for bow and noped out after tartarus

alpine fulcrum
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i would probably use it with cast build or gun before bow

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obviously having to charge ur shot is an issue there

molten nymph
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alternatively, chiron keepsake but never take the well

quaint hatch
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Every weapon is fun

alpine fulcrum
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oh yeah chiron keepsake is probably better than i give it credit for

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thats one way to have extra casts when you really need em

quaint hatch
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Oh you mean charon

alpine fulcrum
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er yeah

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dang you

quaint hatch
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Chiron is the bow aspect bois

molten nymph
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eh yea

alpine fulcrum
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making me mispell

molten nymph
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damn you greek gods

alpine fulcrum
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i also just recently ||beat charon|| for the first time

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just gotta do it one more time

topaz epoch
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Does a boon that is +attack also afffect dash attack?

quaint hatch
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Usually

topaz epoch
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kk ty

quaint hatch
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Aside from specific hammers

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F.e. shadow slash for sword doesn't affect dash attack

lament holly
granite ether
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hammers that specify attack do not effect dash strikes at all

alpine fulcrum
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||fight him in elysium or styx when your build is mostly done, and use a build where you can stay tf away from him, imo at least||

granite ether
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you cannot ||fight Charon in styx||

alpine fulcrum
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oh i thought i had heard otherwise my bad

lament holly
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got it. i'll keep that in mind the next time i see him. thanks!

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elysium would be the best then

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||i got his first prompt in tartarus. rip||

alpine fulcrum
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i thought you knew everything rollingstone

lethal socket
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recomended boon for aphrodite

alpine fulcrum
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||cant imagine fighting him in tartarus, he has so much heckin hp||

quaint hatch
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My knowledge is only near infinite

quiet gull
quaint hatch
quiet gull
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Real talk, Acorn should be active for ||Charon and Tiny Vermin||

quaint hatch
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Only ||chiron||

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@quiet gull also maybe tag

runic agate
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|| just managed to do first phase of hades hitless||

quaint hatch
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Evolution

runic agate
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My dmg is freaking insane

flat vapor
runic agate
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Thanks aspectnof eris :)

flat vapor
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or piercing wave for sword, for some reason

granite ether
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piercing wave is weird

runic agate
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|| hades crushed||

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6th win in the bank

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|| IM COMING MAMA ||

green maple
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alright alright lets get this clear

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||so what do i have to do to get to olympus?||

quaint hatch
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||finish story, max 6 gods, be disappointed||

green maple
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and i also want to talk to ||bouldy||, how?

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and max means by nectar?

quaint hatch
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Nah get their sticker

green maple
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eh?

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||how do you do the chibi then||

quaint hatch
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Except for ||demeter|| just up to ||locked heart|| there

quaint hatch
green maple
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oh gods..

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and uh

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i have the hidden aspect of the bow!

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time to test it out!

quaint hatch
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It's a one shot machine

green maple
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any boons you would like to go with it?

quaint hatch
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Explosive and twin shot hammer

green maple
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arty?

quaint hatch
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Artemis attack

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Aphro duo

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Zeus aid

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Heart rend

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Smoldering air

green maple
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uhhhhhhh

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i dont know the last two

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but lets go do it yay

quaint hatch
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It's their duos

green maple
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uh and if i have to

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fit 2 ||heat||, is ||underworld customs|| fine?

quaint hatch
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There are easier options first

green maple
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ohhh

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then ill go'

quaint hatch
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Customs teaches you to plan your builds better though

green maple
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consequences+EM?

quaint hatch
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Em2, TD1, MM, BP1 are relatively free and fun imo

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Also EM3 theseus is easier but asterius is harder

green maple
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EM2/TD1/MM/BP1?

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alright

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oh...? BP is easy...?

quaint hatch
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Yep

green maple
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why not AP?

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AP cant be that bad, or im just noob

quaint hatch
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I even like BP2 but if you get the blue heart giving skulls or spear men the its hell

green maple
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oh

quaint hatch
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Ap takes away a boon Choicr

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That's huge

green maple
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ohhhh

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why not DC tho

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1 impervious attack looks

quaint hatch
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What was that again

green maple
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pretty fine

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the blue hp bar

quaint hatch
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Oh damage control

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Depends on the aspect

green maple
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ohhh

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OH

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SO ITS NOT FINE WHEN IM USING THE HIDDEN

quaint hatch
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1 is fine tho

green maple
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light attack aspects are fine i see i see

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alright then i guess ill go EM1/DC1

quaint hatch
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Fast attack has less problems

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Technically secret bow special is decent for clearing dc

green maple
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ohhh

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nice!

quiet gull
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I suggest just turning EM up to 2 instead

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It's not terribly harder

green maple
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I BEGAN WITH AN EPIC ARTY ATTACK BOON

green maple
quaint hatch
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I'd argue everything up to em3 is ezier

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Including it

green maple
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ohhhh

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frost strike is very tempting since its heroic

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ahhhhh

quaint hatch
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No

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Dont

green maple
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but i already have arty attack so

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maybe ill take demeter's special?

quaint hatch
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Nah

green maple
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frozen touch wont do anything if i dont have any chill

quaint hatch
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You want heart rend and spread weak

green maple
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wait then i roll demeter?

quaint hatch
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As I said
Artemis attack, apjro flourish, zeus aid

green maple
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so i need aphro's special?

quaint hatch
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For heart rend

green maple
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alright then

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i guess i roll deme

quaint hatch
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On crit build artemis and aphrodite ate usually standard

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Don't tell me ur using authority

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Switch to persuasion

green maple
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oops

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too late

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ill take it next time

quaint hatch
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It's way better since it gives you better control over getting the right boone

green maple
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i got rare crop but thatll do nothing besides my arty attack boon

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do i still go for it

quaint hatch
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Rate crop is nice yeah

green maple
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in 12 chambers it gets heroic so its sort of pog

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it came up pretty quick at least

quaint hatch
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Equipping the right gods keepsakes is more effective than authority

green maple
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do i take ares or

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pom

quaint hatch
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Pom

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You got arty and dem now

green maple
quaint hatch
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So only two slots left

green maple
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oh?

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that's how it works...?

quaint hatch
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And you have those slots already set

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There's 4 slots

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Hermes and chaos don't count

green maple
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so i can only take 4 gods?

quaint hatch
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The 4 gods you take will appear only

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You can force more with keepsakes

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But that will randomly kick one out

green maple
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oh so i need zeus+aphro which makes it a 4

quaint hatch
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Yep

green maple
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or i also have chaos

quaint hatch
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Chaos and hermes don't count

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They're seperate

green maple
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i guess chaos in tautarus looks fine

quaint hatch
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U can always take them

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They don't count towards the 4 gods limit

green maple
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ill take chaos lets see what i get

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do i go for attack increase?

quaint hatch
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That's a good option yuh

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U can also build rama for special but that a different build ofc

green maple
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omg epic attack boon

quaint hatch
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I thought u already had arty

green maple
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like the

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chaos's epic attack boon

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i dont have explosive shot nor twin shot

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do i roll the hammer

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hmm

quaint hatch
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Ah ok

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That's sick

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Don't roll hammer

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They're important

green maple
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triple shot?

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i have triple shot sniper shot relentless volley

quaint hatch
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Triple then if

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If you're close enough you can actually hit all three

green maple
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OOO I HAVE APHRO YAY

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so i need aphro's special got it

quaint hatch
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And then their duo heart rend

green maple
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OMG I

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I HAVE APHRO'S SPECIAL NOW

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ITS ALSO AN EPIC

quaint hatch
green maple
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i

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i have the trial of gods

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with aphro and arty

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oh my god

quaint hatch
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Trials can't give duos

green maple
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but their duo's wont appear

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still isnt it worth taking

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i really want PP or support fire

quaint hatch
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What's the other option?

green maple
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centaur

quaint hatch
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Pp and support fire are nice ye

green maple
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so should i just

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go for the boons instead of the heart?

quaint hatch
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Depends on what you feel you need more

green maple
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oh

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ill go boons then

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btw which one is harder for the trial?

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i know aphro's trial is hella difficult

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but never tried arty's trial

pliant sparrow
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artemis gets more disappointed in u

green maple
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oh god

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ill take aphro haha

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because i at least know aphro's trial so

pliant sparrow
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im p sure artemis trial is just regular tho

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aoe following u

quaint hatch
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Yup

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Way ezer

green maple
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uh and

runic agate
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|| does the area boon that makes you do more dmg after you kill something for that encounter apply to bosses EX. I kill a thing that hades spawns do I get the DMG up? ||

green maple
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i got pp and life affirmation and im entering aphro's room

narrow hemlock
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aphrodite trial is really only prickly is theres a lot going on and it gets harder to track the heart

pliant sparrow
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yah u can dash thru the heart if u can see it

runic agate
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OMFG YES!!!!

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THANKS

quaint hatch
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Only works for first attack tho

green maple
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no duo oof

quaint hatch
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It's super whack

green maple
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do i get aphro dash

runic agate
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|| HADES PREPARE TO SUFFER ||

quaint hatch
quiet gull
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Yeah it's really not something that helps in bossfights

green maple
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no this is after the trial

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like

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the room after one

quaint hatch
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Hunter dash is good for secret bow attack build

green maple
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hmmm

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then different league?

quaint hatch
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Always nice

green maple
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ohh

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nice

pliant sparrow
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? @runic agate isnt that boon like for only a single attack/special?

quiet gull
quaint hatch
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I'd personally value hunter over aphro dash in this case

pliant sparrow
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thats kinda useless on final boss then

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since he only spawns like 4 max

quaint hatch
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That's the consensus rn

runic agate
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true

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ive nevre once gotten a duo ferom a trial

quaint hatch
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Realistically speaking

runic agate
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one of us would have gotten one if it was possible?

quaint hatch
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Well as queen said you can technically get duos from gods that are not in the trial
But that's unlikely if not impossible

#

Since only those two will appear and you won't get their duos

runic agate
#

i dunno ive had so many runs where i shoulda gotten duos

#

ig its just MEGA RARE

green maple
#

do i keep my arty keepsake or do i go for zeus or aphro

quaint hatch
#

To make it clearer: If you had an artemis/aohro trial you could get a zeus/poseidon duo

#

But since they don't appear

pliant sparrow
#

keepsakes are one time only

green maple
#

but rarity

quaint hatch
#

Nope

green maple
#

so i guess ill go zeus?

quaint hatch
#

Keepsakes are for forcing the gods you need for a build

green maple
#

alright ill go zeus then

runic agate
#

leaves chat cuz fook everything

quaint hatch
#

Usually I'llgo gods keepsake>gods keepsake>purse/gods keepsake>acorn

quaint hatch
green maple
#

ohh

quaint hatch
green maple
#

anyways i go for it its time for asphodel

quaint hatch
#

But you don't have to be as build focused as me xD

runic agate
#

i dont hate u 🙂

#

nearly every run i go for a build lmao

quaint hatch
#

I'm jking m8
I still don't get it comment tho xD

green maple
quaint hatch
#

Follow the way of Bouldy thenbouldy

runic agate
#

4% attack increase

quaint hatch
#

Ambiguity bonus

runic agate
#

da fuq?

quaint hatch
#

I haven't invented it but I'm claiming itsquirtnya

#

Ambiguity buff=best buff

runic agate
#

me who hasnt even unlocked being able to talk to bouldy yet I BET BOULDY IS THE BEST FOR BOONS!

quaint hatch
#

Secret best god xD

runic agate
#

bouldy= the one who made chaos

#

just sayin

quaint hatch
#

That's spoiler

runic agate
#

: /

quaint hatch
#

@astral swift already finished an awesome art piece?

astral swift
#

Voldi made me draw shabby feet and now I wanna draw eyes but I boolied myself out of it cuz I can't draw faces shadegrief

green maple
#

zeus vs arty

#

both are mini boss encounters

#

i want arty's dash

quaint hatch
#

Heart rend is more important

green maple
#

oh

#

OH

#

ALRIGHT

quaint hatch
#

The duo is key

green maple
#

me, goes for duo not knowing what it does

quaint hatch
#

It gives you +50% crit damage to weak enemies

green maple
#

because

quaint hatch
#

So big damage boost

#

For crits

#

If you don't get duo hunter dash obvs

runic agate
#

cyall

quaint hatch
#

See ya soon

astral swift
#

Boi boi

quaint hatch
#

Now create some beautiful eyes

green maple
#

agh, no duo

#

agh, no aphro dash

#

wait no

#

arty dash

#

agh

#

do i roll?

quaint hatch
#

Do you have the mirror perk that increases duo appearance M

#

?

green maple
#

no, i have the one that goes with the rarities

quaint hatch
#

I thought you don't have persuasion

#

Take the duo/legendary one

green maple
#

i can roll boon choices

quaint hatch
#

At very high heat the epic one is better

green maple
#

ohh

#

alright

#

then, do i roll now?

quaint hatch
#

But until then legendary/duo reigns supreme imo

#

Do you have persuasion or authority?

green maple
#

huh?

quaint hatch
#

Also I like duos and legendaries xDD

green maple
#

"perusasion it authority"

#

what

quaint hatch
#

I h8 my auto correct

green maple
#

oh

#

idk what it is, but i can roll my boon choices/hammer choices

quaint hatch
#

You can't roll hammers

green maple
#

??

#

i thought i could?

quaint hatch
#

Only boons and pools

green maple
#

alright

#

uh

#

do i roll arty

quaint hatch
#

Yeah for duo

green maple
#

i didnt get the duo, but i have dash

#

yay

quaint hatch
#

The duo mirror perk really makes a difference in getting those
Also the chaos rarity boon and other rarity increases help as well

#

In the end it's good to have most mirror options maxed

green maple
#

hermes or zeus

quaint hatch
#

Zeus ig

green maple
#

alright

winter harbor
#

I like the green mirror option for rerolling boons for help in getting certain boons

#

I mean, you already have keepsakes for getting certain gods

quaint hatch
#

That's what I meant by persuasion reigns supreme

#

Late 2 the party xD

#

Is a 2 person chat a party?thanthink thanthink thanthink

green maple
#

eww i didnt get the aid

#

maybe zeus cast?

#

idk

#

i have cast reflex and vengeance

quaint hatch
#

Sure why not

green maple
#

reflex also looks cool tho

#

ill go cast

quaint hatch
#

U decide

#

In the end it's still you playing

green maple
#

oops

#

maybe i asked you too much XD

quaint hatch
#

Nah m8 I'm always there to answer any questions

#

But I'm not the one pressing the buttons xD

winter harbor
#

Zeus is really good once you’ve heavily invested in him

#

Sea storm and cold fusion are great duos

quaint hatch
#

The most important nothing's are just artemis attack, aohro Flourish, heart rend (maybe zeus aid and smoldering air and hunter dash) and the rest is freeform

green maple
#

oh my goddddddd

#

this...

#

my boons are helping my bow deal 1k damage

#

christ

quaint hatch
#

The plan is to deal even more

#

Also clean kill is a nice pick up

green maple
#

oh?

#

alright

quaint hatch
#

If you get explosive and twin shot also it will be about 6 times that

green maple
#

i hope i meet the ? ? ? ? ? guy

#

hammer vs aphro is such a hard choice

quaint hatch
#

Since crit is multiplicative the 15%+ form clean kill is a lot mofe

alpine fulcrum
#

now hold on

winter harbor
#

Hammers can be run winning

green maple
#

alright then

quaint hatch
#

Depends on the aspect

#

The duo is also important

alpine fulcrum
#

you hold on to god's keepsakes for more than one area? or you mean you switch to a different gods keepsake?

winter harbor
#

But they’re a little useless if you’re running a cast heavy build

quaint hatch
#

Both are valid choice's

alpine fulcrum
#

from the earlier part of the conversation

green maple
#

well i mean i have aphro's keepsakes so she is going to come up soon again

winter harbor
#

I switch keepsakes

alpine fulcrum
#

ok i thought so

winter harbor
#

It only guarantees you one boon

green maple
#

depends to me, i just simp for ares if i like the blade rift

quaint hatch
green maple
#

i know its a bad move, but i simp

green maple
quaint hatch
#

Then it will still force

quiet gull
#

If you dont get the duo you need in Asphodel, sometimes you gotta keep the god keepsake on for Elysium to roll for that duo though

quaint hatch
#

Even if you take hammer

#

Also shops don't use up the force afaik

alpine fulcrum
#

wait what

#

i dont get what you're saying 4thqueen

quaint hatch
#

For the rarity increase

alpine fulcrum
#

oh that just doesnt seem worth..

green maple
#

EXPLOSIVE SHOT

quaint hatch
#

I still prefer purse In most cases

green maple
#

YESSSSSSSS

quiet gull
#

Tartarus, use god keepsake #1
Asphodel, use god keepsake #2

#

All to get a duo

quaint hatch
#

Btw core tip with secret bow

#

You don't have to always charge up fully

green maple
#

yeah its still epic

#

i do i light shot its still smth lik

#

300

alpine fulcrum
#

secret bow with zeus special is craaaazy

quaint hatch
#

Better not take damage than stand still for 5 secs

green maple
#

wait

#

uh

quaint hatch
#

Yeah thunder flourish build is fun

green maple
#

this

#

explosive shot is

#

so slow

quaint hatch
#

Yeah but powerful

#

It's +300%

#

Triple damage

quiet gull
#

Chill or Hangover are where it's at

green maple
#

1.2K DAMAGE

#

THIS

quaint hatch
green maple
#

OMG

quiet gull
#

It's okay on Rama

quaint hatch
#

You're ok on secret bow

#

Got em

alpine fulcrum
#

omg spoiler

quiet gull
#

You're gonna make me blush 😊

winter harbor
#

Poseidon Zeus is where it’s at

green maple
#

hermes pleaaase give me a atk speed or reflex boon

quiet gull
#

Rama-lama-ding-dong

winter harbor
#

Easy privileged status from their duo

quaint hatch
green maple
#

uhhh

#

side hustle....?

quaint hatch
#

What are the other options

quiet gull
#

Side hustle is usually the worst choice

green maple
#

hyper sprint auto reload

winter harbor
#

Side hustle can be very good but which biome are you in?

alpine fulcrum
#

just replace exagryph with 4th bow imo

quiet gull
#

Unless you REALLY want that Styx TB

quaint hatch
#

Hyper Sprint

green maple
#

im at elysium thats why im hesitating

#

hyper sprint ye ill take it

winter harbor
#

Yeah, I would go with hyper sprint

alpine fulcrum
#

hyper sprint is so cool

quaint hatch
#

I mean side hustle is fine early on

green maple
#

i love it when i am getting taught on builds when its something like my 74th run

alpine fulcrum
#

its like nyoom

green maple
#

lmao

quaint hatch
#

If you don't get greatest reflex, hyper Sprint or aren't looking for hermes cast boons

winter harbor
#

Elysium strikes me as a little late for side hustle

quaint hatch
alpine fulcrum
#

attack/special speed feels like one of the weaker hermes choices a lot of the time but i might be wrong

green maple
#

yeah, thats why i need atk speed

quaint hatch
#

It is yeah
Depends on the aspect a lot

quiet gull
green maple
#

UH

quaint hatch
#

Also on shield

green maple
#

I ENTERED THIS ZEUS+APHRO TRIAL

alpine fulcrum
#

attack speed on 4th sword is cool tho...

green maple
#

and i picked aphro idk what zeus does

quiet gull
#

It makes you start charging faster, but the charge itself is unchanged

quaint hatch
#

Yeah that's what I meant

winter harbor
#

Hermes can be hit or miss

green maple
#

guys hows zeus when hes angy

quaint hatch
#

He's ok

alpine fulcrum
#

even if it kinda goes against the idiom of 4th sword

green maple
#

nice

#

ill go

quiet gull
#

You meant the opposite of what you wrote?

green maple
#

empty inside

#

because it gives 10 seconds weak

quaint hatch
#

Me too

green maple
#

i need the duo now

#

where the hell

quaint hatch
#

take the mirror option next time

alpine fulcrum
#

wait can you get the MEGA CHOP hammer on 4th sword

quaint hatch
#

World splitter is sooo bad

#

Smallest hitbox

alpine fulcrum
#

but but

#

mortal strike

quiet gull
#

You cannot

alpine fulcrum
#

aww

quaint hatch
#

Also you wouldn't want to

alpine fulcrum
#

you dont know me

quiet gull
#

World Splitter doesnt multiply base damage, it just sets it to 90

green maple
#

OH

quiet gull
#

So it wouldnt do anything different on 4th sword

green maple
#

HI ||ASTERIUS||

alpine fulcrum
#

well it would have to be more damage obviously

green maple
#

time to finish you up and see my power

alpine fulcrum
#

like 500 at least

quaint hatch
#

It would have to have a not ass hitbox

quiet gull
#

But that's not what worldsplitter does

alpine fulcrum
#

it would be a modified version of the hammer..

#

to represent hte power..of 4th sword..

quiet gull
#

What's real cruel is you can still get Cursed Slash with 4th sword

quaint hatch
#

I mean world splitter is a fair name
Not hard to miss an entire globe

alpine fulcrum
#

its ok

quaint hatch
#

Even with such a small hitbox

alpine fulcrum
#

you got so much hp

green maple
#

THIS IS TOO STRONG

quaint hatch
#

You haven't even reached the peak

green maple
#

I BROKE THE GAME

#

OMG

alpine fulcrum
#

yeah its not called shade splitter now is it

green maple
#

like god damn it

quaint hatch
green maple
#

i still dont have the duo

alpine fulcrum
#

wait what are you using

green maple
#

ill take broken resolve

quiet gull
green maple
#

please give me the booooooonnnn

quaint hatch
#

It should be called "my will to live-splitter"

#

Cause also non existent

winter harbor
#

Yeah, duos are unreliable like that

quaint hatch
#

You are unreliable

green maple
#

now at this point

#

its so funny

alpine fulcrum
#

what i dont like about the gun is you either get rocket + cluster bomb/triple bomb, or ur sad that you didnt get that

#

like your run might still be ok

#

but youll be sad

green maple
#

"bow"

me: approaches and then slashes

quaint hatch
#

Like I'll win ez

#

But was it really a win?

green maple
#

oooo pattyyy

#

wait no its not patty

cinder lichen
#

Lambent Plume + Hermes Dodge is just Payday dodge build

Might as well kick on “Left in the Cold”

green maple
#

paty?

#

or idk

#

lmao

alpine fulcrum
#

meanwhile over in enter the gungeon its like, oh did you get a bunch of totally busted guns/items? no? well hope you're godlike at the game lolol

quaint hatch
#

Don't give me flashbacks

#

I still shudder

#

Damn you ammoconda

#

Idk why but that one always tripped me

alpine fulcrum
#

i only successfully cleared that game once

quaint hatch
#

I never

alpine fulcrum
#

i mean the basic ending

quaint hatch
#

But I stopped playing p fast

#

M00D

green maple
#

im not champer 34

#

i still dont have duo

alpine fulcrum
#

and it was purely due to getting lucky with guns

green maple
#

lets go charon give me something

quaint hatch
#

love

green maple
#

charon gave me splitting bolt

#

damn you charon

cinder lichen
#

Pft

#

Charon sounds intensify

alpine fulcrum
#

i need to try blizzard shot again to see how good it really is when you dont get mirage shot and lots of casts to go with it

green maple
#

WHAT

#

I

#

I TWO SHOT AND MINOTAUR IS ALREADY AT P2

cinder lichen
#

?

#

Pffffffffft

#

Excuse me?

cinder lichen
green maple
#

oh gods...

#

this..

#

oh..

cinder lichen
#

The hell do you have?

green maple
#

now im just

flat vapor
#

but like, why not get mirage shot

green maple
#

flattered

alpine fulcrum
#

noxy post ur victory screen at the end

flat vapor
#

you're adjacent to it anyways

alpine fulcrum
#

i just mean there's a chance i wont always get it

cinder lichen
#

Was it Splitting Bolt?

quaint hatch
alpine fulcrum
#

not that i wouldnt try for it

quaint hatch
#

A splitting bolt

alpine fulcrum
#

zeus is the only god who duos with himself

green maple
#

HOW IS THIS HAPPENING OMG

pliant sparrow
#

Rng...?

quaint hatch
#

No

#

Builds

alpine fulcrum
#

builds arent even that good

pliant sparrow
#

U faced him b4?

quaint hatch
#

You can't be serious

alpine fulcrum
#

compared to knowing ur enemy

#

and being like water

quaint hatch
#

I know it's a hard concept

But

How about both

green maple
#

LIKE WHY

cinder lichen
green maple
#

WHY UNHEALTHY FIXATION INSTEAD OF THE DUO

cinder lichen
#

Must be the work of Splitting Bolt, there’s no other explanation.

#

Noxy

quaint hatch
#

Obviously

cinder lichen
#

Noxy

alpine fulcrum
#

boons are just a crutch, even ||hades|| says so

green maple
#

but i dont need any charm effects

cinder lichen
#

What Aphro boon

green maple
#

yes piorda nautor

cinder lichen
#

What weapon

quaint hatch
#

@alpine fulcrum you are just a crutch

pliant sparrow
#

45 heat no boon

green maple
#

oh wait

#

bouldy bouldy

pliant sparrow
#

do it u wont

green maple
#

do i just go for

#

sweet surrender

quaint hatch
#

Charm is sick

green maple
#

looks cool

cinder lichen
#

Noxy Tell me right now what Aphro boons and weapon aspect do you have

alpine fulcrum
#

i watched a fresh start speedrun with the devs commentating, was pretty cool

green maple
#

uh

quaint hatch
#

Basically a stun
Better the faster the attack

green maple
#

i have a bunch of aphro

pliant sparrow
#

@alpine fulcrum even that oneused a duo boon

green maple
#

like i have too much

alpine fulcrum
#

yeah but he got lucky

green maple
#

so uh bouldy do i just go for charm

cinder lichen
#

Aphro Attack? Special? Dash? Misc boons?

green maple
#

special and misc boons

quaint hatch
#

Aohro Flourish

pliant sparrow
#

The best speedruns are lucky

cinder lichen
#

And what weapon

alpine fulcrum
#

obviously if you're speedrunning a roguelike there's going to be a lot of runs that go in the trash because of rng

quaint hatch
#

Secret bow

cinder lichen
#

Oo. Hm...

quaint hatch
#

Bruh do you even read what I'm writing

green maple
#

life affirmation different league broken resolve empty inside

#

anyways

#

so i go charm...?

quaint hatch
#

Charm in secret special is fine

green maple
#

alright

quaint hatch
#

Not as good as on fists

#

But

cinder lichen
#

Was hoping for Charon, Charm is good on anything with rapid fire Aphro

quaint hatch
#

Fun

#

Obvs

cinder lichen
alpine fulcrum
#

it occurs to me that if you cant get duos on trials, that just makes them better for going for legendaries

quaint hatch
#

Why am I not the center of everyone's attention

green maple
#

come onnnnn this issssssss the last artyyyyy i haveeeee

#

no bouldy youre legit helping me out

quaint hatch
#

I'm jking m8

#

Go and get em

cinder lichen
#

Flashback back to when I had Aphro Attack, Aphro Special, Relentless Volley, Chiron Aspect, and Unhealthy Fixation

#

“No, final bossman, sit down, I get to play.

alpine fulcrum
#

the bouldy ambiguity buff actually buffs rollingstone's advice by 2% during that run

quaint hatch
#

Every ambiguity bonus actually buffs me

pliant sparrow
#

Bruh i had seastorm, poseidon legendary that gives more knockback effects, and +3 dash on a run today

#

But i got a 4 sack

#

Killed final boss in 40 secs i was so mad

#

Cluster rocket too

quaint hatch
#

All skill
No luck
Or the other way around?thanthink

alpine fulcrum
#

wait does poseidon lego do anything for bosses

green maple
#

OOOOOOOOO

#

APHRO IS HERE

#

HEART RENNNNDDDD

cinder lichen
#

Uhhhhhwhat was his Legendary again?

quaint hatch
#

If you have stuff that triggers on knockback they will trigger twice

#

Double knockback

tepid plover
#

double the fun

quaint hatch
pliant sparrow
#

I had that plus sea storm it was super op but styx rooms take forever

tepid plover
#

double bouldy

alpine fulcrum
#

what about the thing that does more damage to bosses when you use knockback abilities

cinder lichen
#

Oo

alpine fulcrum
#

does that synergize with the legendary somehow

tepid plover
cinder lichen
#

Imagine quadrupling your damage

#

Damn, I need to do some more Poseidon runs.

pliant sparrow
#

U can go from 200 base damage on hidden sword to 5k crits so

#

Quadruple isnt too much

green maple
#

i only need the final boss

#

lets do this

tepid plover
cinder lichen
#

4th Aspects are pretty wild

#

Save for Spear and Gaunt, still figuring those out

pliant sparrow
#

Spear just go special crit lol

quaint hatch
#

I love em all

pliant sparrow
#

1k hits every few secs on a massive hithox

quaint hatch
#

Or serrated

cinder lichen
#

Yeah I get the impression you should focus on Special more with that one.

#

Or dash strikes

quaint hatch
#

Spin is a trap

#

Or rather being too greedy with that

pliant sparrow
#

Also the hitbox is deceptively super small

#

If u see two enemies spaced out and aim in the middle of them, chances r you’ll hit both

quaint hatch
#

World splitter flashbacks

#

Funniest name to me

tepid plover
#

i always called that one big chop

cinder lichen
#

[WORLD ZPLITTA]

quaint hatch
#

Big chop

#

Good one

cinder lichen
#

Bass boost

quaint hatch
#

The magikarp of hitboxes

tepid plover
#

it literally says big chop on the ability, so thats what i just called it

fierce vessel
#

hooray! won my 6th time

tepid plover
#

now go do it again

cinder lichen
#

lol

quaint hatch
#

If I could have a superpower it would be being able to bass boost things

tepid plover
#

god gungeon pics always get me by surprise

#

a bullet with a gun is so unexpected

quaint hatch
#

Oh no it's upside down

cinder lichen
#

There has to be an achievement for exhausting all dialogue, right?

tepid plover
#

no

#

all achievements are easily obtainable

cinder lichen
#

But imagine if there were

tepid plover
#

no

#

i like it they did it like that

#

in order to do that youd need to have access to all the game lines

#

and the only person with that power is tatz

#

not even the devs

green maple
#

@quaint hatch thank you so much for this crazy experience

quaint hatch
#

I got a lot more where that one came from xD

#

Awesome that you had fun and success!!!

tepid plover
#

vo1di the underworld build dealer

#

charon and hermes associate

quaint hatch
#

I'm a bad dealer
Cause I give all of my stuff out for free

#

Was i Schelemeus all along?thanthink

fluid tusk
#

am i doing something wrong? I beat ||charon|| and got his loyalty card twice but i still havent got the steam achievement?

quaint hatch
#

First off can you spoiler tag the name pls

#

|| on both sides

#

You need the dialogue from hermes I think

green maple
#

builds are fun

fluid tusk
#

no, not the prophecy thingy, the one on steam

green maple
#

i might learn more omg

fluid tusk
#

where u have to get his loyalty card

quaint hatch
#

Oh i can't help you then
I'm on switch lol

fluid tusk
#

ohh

quaint hatch