He's a rock
#h1-discussion
quaint hatch
Don't underestimate my power
stone pebble
Thats a skull crusher
potent portal
Big ol bash ya head in
quaint hatch
Get your boulder facts straight
potent portal
Close enough
stone pebble
You know whats funny? When meteors first struck the Earth, they gave life to Earth
rigid hemlock
Don’t underestimate the power of rocks
stone pebble
Like, before Earth was a thing
agile swallow
quaint hatch
...
potent portal
Not this boulder doe
stone pebble
it must be pretty dark before the meteor hits
quaint hatch
Big bang theory is a myth
potent portal
quaint hatch
Jeff bezos bought earth
potent portal
Can't disagree with that
radiant estuary
Jeff Bezos
quaint hatch
Just keep paying y'all prime membership
potent portal
stone pebble
So erm, Talos was a robot made by Haphaestus
Ichor made him think he was human
The Argonauts basically killed him
thats the story
radiant estuary
Talos was basically the original giant robot
quaint hatch
Guess they finally went for a check up
rigid hemlock
Ohhhh
stone pebble
You know whats cool? Orpheus was one of the Argonauts, before Jason abandonded him
radiant estuary
Was this before or after the stuff with Euridice happened?
quaint hatch
So aside from that
What is your guys least favourite aspect?
And why is it Zagreus sword?
quaint hatch
Again no offense I hope
stone pebble
probably Hades aspect tbh
quaint hatch
But now I'm intrigued why you like it?
stone pebble
cuz i dont use the spin
quaint hatch
I used to hate hades
But then I found out spin dashing retains your i frames
Now I love it
Also you only use doing to get to the buff
stone pebble
Well, I guess all of the aspects arent bad then
maiden urchin
massive spin + quick spin for hades fun times
quaint hatch
Explosive launcher
Building for spin is a trap since the buff doesn't apply to spin
But building for special or dash attack is pog
stone pebble
I don't really have a "least favorite aspect" they all have their uses
rancid ember
Man, I never would have thought shaving 3 seconds down to 2.75 would feel so much faster
I wonder if those times listed are accurate...
(Cast reload time)
quaint hatch
Zag sword is prolly the worst
Which doesn't mean bad
rancid ember
I can only imagine how fast it gets when you're like, Heroic Lv. 4 on that boon
agile cargo
im borrowing the game from someones library and them playing games (i didnt get a notification from steam for some reason) killed my run
im planning on purchasing the game a month later tho
rancid ember
Or Legendary!
agile cargo
that was kinda sad
quaint hatch
You can't level hermes boons
red tiger
I SUCK at the bow
quaint hatch
Lubricating the arrows won't help
stone pebble
hot
quaint hatch
woosh
red tiger
I got through to the end with all of the other weapons and started feeling like it was getting way too easy, even with a pact of punishment on each
now I've tried to beat the final boss with a bow TWICE and failed
before that was in a 5 win streak
red tiger
yes but I didnt need practice for the other weapons
quaint hatch
Not necessarily
stone pebble
ah
quaint hatch
Depends on aspect and build
red tiger
Maybe I'll switch out the chiron bow
quaint hatch
Hera is a nice circumvention for most who don't like bow
red tiger
maybe I'll rack up some titan hearts with the other weapons first
rancid ember
Man I want a Heroic version of auto-reload. Unfortunately I don't think there's any really good ways to ensure a Heroic version of a boon... Epic is probably a pretty good improvement still though.
quaint hatch
Man I want a Heroic version of auto-reload. Unfortunately I don't think there's any really good ways to ensure a Heroic version of a boon... Epic is probably a pretty good improvement still though.
@rancid ember rare crop, Euridice
Ariadne's yarn
Exclusive access
thorn tendon
UMMM A VERY AWKWARD EXPERIENCE
quaint hatch
titan blood
@red tiger it's the shape of a blood drop
thorn tendon
I load up Hades intending to start a new run
TURNS OUT I WAS IN STYX ON A PREVIOUS RUN WHEN IT ALST SAVED
quaint hatch
Centaur hearts are the shape of a heart
rancid ember
Or wait, was that one of the work orders...? I forget if I have that
red tiger
its the shape of a human heart tho
thorn tendon
I have no idea where I am, what I'm doing, or what my boons are
quaint hatch
That's why they're called hearts
red tiger
a human heart
coral prawn
yo... i always wondered why ares was named ... well.... ares... because i thought the god of wars name was Mars, and then with a quick google search I can see the consequence to failing history class
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674303883669012523/777724830488199168/unknown.png
red tiger
not the fictional heart
quaint hatch
Maybe you've not seen a human heart then
red tiger
but sure its a blood drop
quaint hatch
...
quaint hatch
Or wait, was that one of the work orders...? I forget if I have that
@rancid ember poseidon dionysus duo
Titan blood doesn't
Centaur hearts do
rancid ember
Oh, okay
red tiger
Why is athena so OP compared to every other olympian the exception of hades
quaint hatch
Probably cause you haven't used the right :3
red tiger
I have no good reason at all to use any other god's keepsake on tartarus
robust scaffold
shes good for defense but not attack imo
thorn tendon
I feel like I DIED this run but the game didn't save??? properly??? ITS BEEN TWO WEEKS
quaint hatch
Dash is insane
Otherwise it's aspect/build dependent
thorn tendon
WHERE AM I
red tiger
thing is, attack doesnt matter as much as defense, unless I guess you have the lambent plume and want to get through as fast as possible
robust scaffold
just finish ur run lol
robust scaffold
defence is more impt since enemies do a lot of dmg
if ur already doing enough dmg
quaint hatch
Depends on the builds lol
red tiger
is that the pact that is 9 minutes and -2 each rank
robust scaffold
yea
red tiger
I still don't know what a "rank" is
robust scaffold
as long as u do some thinking before choosing ur keepsake u shld be fine
quaint hatch
Rank=higher level of that pact option
red tiger
ah
potent portal
🍉
red tiger
yep
potent portal
what's so funny bouldy
quaint hatch
Nothing
quaint hatch
...
quaint hatch
Oh no
robust scaffold
uwu emote good
potent portal
quaint hatch
Please don't
potent portal
nothing wrong with uwus
quaint hatch
Nothing not wrong
stone pebble
uwohno
agile swallow
quaint hatch
Why do I have to suffer?
stone pebble
Shall your resolve be unbreakable as adamant
potent portal
thorn tendon
well I beat that run
apparently it was Dio Attack, Artemis Special, Demeter Dash, on Chriron
But it was very "HI DAD, WHAT AM HAPPEN? I DONT KNOW EITHER. WHEEEE"
native wave
lol
rancid ember
I guess since I've unlocked all the talents on the Mirror of Night, as well as all six Infernal Arms, I should just... start using Cthonic Keys in trades?
thorn tendon
yes
rancid ember
It seems like I should be using them exclusively to trade for Titan Blood directly, unless I have an overflow of keys or blood
(since that 15 keys for 1 titan blood thing comes up periodically)
native wave
ye
idk, I had a kind of skewed experience from early access as far as resources, but
blood was the biggest grind for me
once everything else was unlocked rly
agile swallow
woeful olive
||YO I REACHED THE CREDITS WTF||
||I DIDN'T KNOW THIS EXISTED||
||HADES SONG WITH LYRICS SLAPS||
that's a lotta black bars
agile swallow
rancid ember
Is the fact the ||credits|| exist a spoiler? lol
grizzled bough
||how did ppl do the beat charon twice in one run prophecy, I'm lucky if I even get his event once||
agile cargo
||run all you like
from the place you belong
its always there
its in the air
your dearest kin
below the skin||
favorite lyric for 2020 tbh
woeful olive
very cool
i will read lyrics again later
35.5 hours for ||credits|| is that decent?
aww ||cerberus is so happy :)||
||it's kinda weird how hades is all of a sudden super positive, seems a little unrealistic||
stone pebble
For the price of 5 diamonds, you can buy ||"In the Blood"!||
Hades loves his waifu, it's probably the only thing that can make him happy, besides cerberus
agile cargo
the greatest dilemma presented to mankind
do i spend diamonds on ||disco ball|| or work orders
stone pebble
Also I wouldn't say, "super positive"
He'd be really upset if he's "super positive" for covid
I'm sorry
I had to make that joke
agile cargo
oof
woeful olive
||i guess not, but he was talking about "my unpredictability being my greatest asset", and "go out there and do what you do best!" despite being a grumpy old fart beforehand||
agile cargo
also... i wouldnt say it changed too much, the atmosphere of the game
i think the only not so friendly person in the house is hades, everyone else is super supportive, and even when hades ||agreed to be more patient with you hes still grumpy from time to time, still working on it||
stone pebble
I just read it incorrectly
woeful olive
yeah i'm sure it's more subtle later
stone pebble
Also, ||persephone|| made him say it
woeful olive
not trying to critique or anything
stone pebble
He doesn't want to upset her waifu
grizzled bough
I think it makes sense in the context keep in mind ||in that scene they needed justification for you to keep running the game from a lore perspective so it makes sense that it's slightly forced||
agile cargo
think zag still ||genuinely earned hades’ respect tho, waifu or not||
grizzled bough
the rest of the storyboarding, world building and character development was so good I don't hold that particular scene against the writing tbh
agile cargo
and that kinda happened even before the epilogue, where ||he gave up fighting you and let you go see mom without having to go through a fight||
stone pebble
||It's not that he hates Zagreus everytime he reaches the surface, it's that he's sparring with Zagreus, he doesn't care whether or not he gets past||
alpine fulcrum
man, one thing about cursed slash and the fourth spear aspect
stone pebble
||Thats why he commends Zagreus in one way or another when you talk to him, when theres not a '!' bubble over his head||
agile cargo
chiron bow is great ngl its the first weapon i got used to after maining shield
i honestly feel so accomplished for getting out of my comfort zone to try out new stuff
alpine fulcrum
in elysium you can just leave one guy alive and let him re-arm over and over to top yourself off
stone pebble
^ Btw, your name is correct
agile cargo
that joke is totally not getting old
agile cargo
the just dont get hit one
im not offended by it (you have a 90% chance to not believe me but thats ok) but like. its genuinely getting old
fading gazelle
Well that's reasonable that you find it getting old, but I still like cracking the joke even if it is old 
agile cargo
understandable
fading gazelle
It's still funny to me
agile cargo
thats great then
stone pebble
When you have strong drink, get hit all you like, except for the final boss
alpine fulcrum
the enemies, at least in regular encounters, in this game are designed to mess you up more if you try to play scared, i'm convinced
not counting when you're just starting out and have no idea what any enemies do
bitter osprey
The longer they live the longer they can hurt you
stone pebble
B-but ||Erebus gates||
alpine fulcrum
god, not looking forward to getting up to 15 heat and trying to do elysium ||erebus gates|| lol
bitter osprey
I'm finally getting towards 10 heat which means I actually have to give the enemies good buffs
stone pebble
Or you can just ||EM4 Hades||
alpine fulcrum
on the wiki does "incompatible with x aspect" on a hammer mean that hammer wont appear at all? or just that it doesnt work right
robust scaffold
wont appear
red tiger
I know it may be unlikely, but is it at least possible to get two chaos boons in one realm?
torn pawn
Yeah.
grizzled bough
totally possible
torn pawn
More is also possible.
grizzled bough
not even unlikely tbh there's so many ways u can do it especially if u buy ixion
red tiger
well yeah lol
grizzled bough
I've killed myself with greedy chaos boons like 4 times 😂
red tiger
I never get a chaos boon if I'm close to a boss unless maybe its a reward preview one
alpine fulcrum
reward preview can also screw you in elysium if you need DD
red tiger
Maybe if I have a couple reroll dice I'll go for it close to a boss but thats about it
DD?
what is that acronym
alpine fulcrum
if you need kiss of styx i mean
grizzled bough
reward preview is almost never worth it
red tiger
oh death defiance
fading gazelle
reward preview is almost never worth it
Why so?
red tiger
yeah how so
alpine fulcrum
depends how many blue rewards you get
fading gazelle
Do you pick the boons depending on the curse?
red tiger
I actually am using reward preview right now cuz it will give me an extra bloodstone with the aspect of hera
alpine fulcrum
kinda sucks if you get fewer boons because of it, but depends on a lot of things
fading gazelle
I mean, I usually never let the curse bother my choice when picking chaos, since I'm more after the boon rather than the least punishing
So no matter what, every curse would always be worth it
red tiger
Not if you're using the gun and pick the "no using attacks" chaos boon without thinking
grizzled bough
the curse can 100% slow down your run or mess up your build
like if you intend on going fast and need specific things to do it
red tiger
And for the next how many chambers play in agony hoping your enemies don't move and waiting for the cast to come back
Speaking of aspect of hera, do the cast boons just do nothing with it?
grizzled bough
it will ruin the run if u miss those opportunities
even if u win it will be slower
red tiger
Do the cast powerups that raise damage raise damage of the bloodstone I put in hera?
fading gazelle
They don't raise the power
But it allows you to shoot them all at once
Which leads to some extremely high dps
For example Dio cast/Artemis Cast
Load them all into the arrow and shoot
It just explodes onto the one enemy that you launched it too
And if they lodge in, Hera has a faster drop time
So you can pick them up for another round
red tiger
I just got an option for demeter that says "whenever you cast, damage foes around you and inflict chill"
Does that apply the cast to my attack instead when a bloodstone is in hera?
fading gazelle
It applies when you load it in
So when you start putting in the bloodstones, you let out a small damage aura
Not when you shoot them
manic sky
this game esxplode mi space bar XD
red tiger
ah I see now
manic sky
literaly
red tiger
its just wherever I am
manic sky
gg keyboard XD
red tiger
highly recommend using controller if you have one
red tiger
how does that work
fading gazelle
All movement is on the controller while I bind all attacks on the mouse
360 movement with precise aim
Best of both worlds
Works really well imo
sonic ridge
that's pretty big brained ngl
fringe sandal
if you've ever watched pokemon you can't unsee this https://lithi.io/file/ERC6.mp4
rancid ember
Man, Flurry Shot + Deadly Strike = lotsa lotsa damage. I imagine the Zeus attack would also be quite lovely with FS
rancid ember
Of course, Chiron (even low level) + Zeus special is also v. v. good
opaque nexus
no
zeus special sucks on chiron
zeus special has a small cooldown
so in all those arrows only one has lightning @rancid ember
rancid ember
Oh, I see...
opaque nexus
Yeah it’s uhh really wack
severe flare
opaque nexus
Ares attack for priiveleged status and curse of nausea
stone pebble
Bouldy is best girl btw
opaque nexus
and you'll be using attack infrequently so it will almost always doom them after the previous one goes off
patent mortar
if you've ever watched pokemon you can't unsee this
@fringe sandal I've played Pokemon since Red & Blue; I've watched the anime since the OG series; and I still don't get what you're referencing, haha.
fading gazelle
its starmie or staryu or w/e
Lmao is that what it is?
patent mortar
lol wut
fading gazelle
That is so vague XD
stone pebble
like, squirtle spinning maybe?
rancid ember
lol, I didn't think it looked like starmie
fading gazelle
LMAO
carmine ravine
i see no hades here
fading gazelle
Scroll up
fading gazelle
Now time to get shiny skull
upper carbon
fading gazelle
It isn't 
agile cargo
the contract says its a sphere
stone pebble
Does it say something like: Sphere, Spooky or something like that?
agile cargo
it did
it says "prism sphere, revolting"
not revolving, which differentiates it from the ball
proven slate
I kinda wish the "secret passage" was bigger
although I suppose that's the point to be small
carmine ravine
what passage
agile cargo
is it the shortcut from lounge to main hall
carmine ravine
its not rly secret, even hades commented on that
carmine ravine
yea its a shortcut
storm terrace
Kinda regret getting Aspect of Zeus, not so good for my style or it doesn't feel as right.
rapid forum
it takes a while to get used to
dreamy briar
Does anything happen if you stack Refreshing Nectar and Yarn of Ariadine?
carmine ravine
it dont stack iirc, it add the duration
rapid forum
gj
delicate pilot
I feel like the fists already fill that slot
deep prawn
right
delicate pilot
short ranged fast attack ya know?
deep prawn
knife skin
carmine ravine
casts is your throwing knives
delicate pilot
finds Eurydice
Ambrosia Delight: upgrades 2 boons to the next rarity.
well that's great, because I only have two boons
rancid ember
Is it possible to have only two boons and either of them be Heroic, at that point?
What happens if you select that option then?
The effect just gets wasted?
hearty sierra
I think so, yeah
delicate pilot
I think in that case the boon would look like its being upgraded, but nothing would happen
hearty sierra
Because there's no rarity beyond Heroic
maiden urchin
yeah you can just pool of purging a bunch of stuff in tartarus
rancid ember
Hopefully the game doesn't just crash lol
hearty sierra
Nah this framework is pretty robust
maiden urchin
you can have only 1 boon when you talk to eurydice
or 0 if you found a pool in asphodel
rancid ember
There's a bounty question mark on Styx. What does it represent? It seems like all the bounty artifacts are covered by the first three areas.
I guess I'll find out eventually anyway
but
rose nexus
but i think it would be cool if zag got twin knives
@deep prawn I’m a sucker for weapons like those, but the fists will have to do
deep prawn
yeah the fists are v nice
brisk trail
i always go muda muda muda when i punch the big muscley boyos
man, they really outdid themselves with the 1.0 launch. I've been following hades since early access and its been quite the adventure
brisk trail
yup, i hope more AAA companies are more like them
been playing their early games too, bastion, transistor and pyre
transistor always had a special place for me tho
deep prawn
i used to play bastion on my old ipad
transistor is so good
i dont play as much pyre as i should
brisk trail
i only played it for the story tho, wasn't really fan of spirit basketball hah
deep prawn
understandable
rancid ember
Holy crap Aphrodite's wrath is terrifying
I lost multiple Death Defiances getting hit over and over again
stone pebble
"A broken heart is more powerful than a god's wrath" -Achillies Codex
rancid ember
or just getting hit in the face over and over again by flying hearts
stone pebble
That too
rancid ember
...from a god's wrath
rapid forum
"A broken heart is more powerful than a god's wrath" -Achillies Codex
Especially if it's a goddess's heart
nah, I don't want to take chances with Aphro's trial
rancid ember
lol, two rooms later I enter with 12 HP to my name. Do I die to the Greatshields? No. I die to stationary spear trap
radiant tundra
Athena wrath 
agile cargo
today i found out that than was the one who ||sent skelly outside of zags room||
why am i like
surprised and not surprised at the same time
bright lance
what are the best builds for spear attack or dash attack?
I was thinking of an artemis on the attack with the dash attack boon along with the triple dash attack hammer
I tried making a build for normal attack but the dps was just too low even with the triple jab or flurry jab hammers
half mica
Is there any use for keys apart from the mirror? (yes or no answer please)
slate jetty
keys are only used to unlock mirror talents, weapons, spending 1 key to reset your mirror and trading with wretched broker
bright lance
you can trade them for blood and unlock cosmetics later on
agile cargo
personally i use keys to trade for nectars when im short on some
cant answer that one in yes or no bc it really depends on your priorities
robust sundial
Is there any use for keys apart from the mirror? (yes or no answer please)
@half mica "yes" as stated above : you can unlock weapon or trade them up
woeful olive
Christ’s sake
I have max affinity with than and a butt tonne of ambrosia
How can I make him appear so I can ||get it on?||
ivory wedge
Uh, is the second boss ||the hydra im being careful about spoilers|| supposed to be hard? Because I’ve beaten it both times I’ve fought it so far, i ask cuz the new players chat description mentions it in a way that implies that people find it difficult
ivory wedge
Ah okay
robust scaffold
its harder if ur using a melee weapon
woeful olive
Hydra is pretty darn easy imo
real jackal
do chaos boons tick down in neutral rooms like shops?
woeful olive
Even with melee
ivory wedge
Yeah, had less trouble than with meg tbh
robust scaffold
do chaos boons tick down in neutral rooms like shops?
depends on the phrasing
woeful olive
I main ||aspect of Arthur|| and still usually nearly nohit serpent
robust scaffold
the game says an encounter is a room with enemies
ivory wedge
I haven’t even unlocked aspects yet but I’ve gotten to the third boss
And beaten the first boss with all the weapons i have so far
Still a lot to do
Which I like
real jackal
hey I think my friend just discovered something
he had a chaos boon and took a single tick of lava damage in final asphodel chamber shop
and it took a count off it
is this a bug or intentional? anybody know?
woeful olive
ok so my affinity with thanatos rn looks like: ||❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 🖤 >--> 🖤 🖤 🖤||
is that close enough for me to get ||companion mort|| in the next encounter?
subtle carbon
real jackal
anybody know?
brisk trail
Chaos boons depend on the curse.
It should say in the language between Chamber and Encounter, and Chamber is any room like an NPC room or shop, Encounter is specifically where you have to kill something to proceed.
half mica
How do I trigger the last heart of artemis?
radiant estuary
You need to hear her talk about Callisto enough times
brisk trail
those progress the unlock
half mica
Thanks
rapid forum
so guys
have you guys ever had heal for chamber reward?
I mean I didn't pick it
but I saw it on chamber preview
wish I can send screenshot here
brisk trail
what the heck
knotty aurora
o.o
slate jetty
never seen that in my game, even after 300+ hours of playtime
slate jetty
nourished soul and sunken treasure drop healing
robust scaffold
wow lool
rapid forum
I meant chamber reward lol
ornate summit
I've gotten food twice from Fated Authority rerolls
Not necessarily a bad thing given that it's a fairly substantial heal, I'd say on par with a Fountain
rapid forum
oh neat
ornate summit
It's a rare occurrence and generally you're hoping for a major reward with Authority, not darkness/keys/gems/food
Authority tends downward, though
ornate summit
Dunno. It's fairly slim, for sure
Only really appears when you're already stuck rolling bottom tier rewards
And then it's not guaranteed
sly prairie
Is it possible to get ||the satyr sack in the first tunnel?||
robust scaffold
no
sly prairie
thank you
maiden urchin
ive also never seen food as reward
unkempt sleet
The only place I've seen food rewards was old Erebus, I didn't know it could still happen
remote yacht
unkempt sleet
Well you can imagine Zag hugging Dusa when he can catch her.
rapid forum
I want the icons when you finally bonded with someone
they're so bloody cute
I want them for stickers
rough token
Food can pop up during the first run or so, because there are several things you can't get during your first run
Afaik that's the only time
cloud apex
Mmm, screenshot shows the run far from first one
rapid forum
Yes
ornate summit
Is the fourth area considered a spoiler? I thought it was just the final boss and anything you get after the first clear
And I'd love a Dusa plushie.
winged scroll
hello
im new at the game
any tips?
new as in I beat the bone hydra and died to minotaur
faint garden
Heya!
rough token
I'd drop a message in #h1-for-new-players!
winged scroll
ok
proven slate
It's really hard to see through colored smoke after using the cluster bomb on the rail xD
formal lava
Is the shield really strong? I do so much better with it compared to the other weapons, maybe second to the lance
rough token
the ability to block is pretty powerful, yeah
proven slate
If you like using the bull rush, it's pre strong. Probably one of the more hard to use weapons.
rough token
hard to use fast, I'd say. If you take it slow and simple, it's on the easier side
formal lava
I try to hunt for the crit buffs and spam dash+cast
I don’t really like using the rush tbh
opaque juniper
Should i always jump on Eredus? Is it an extra reward? Or does it count in the number of rooms per floor?
cloud apex
It does count as a room for that, but since rewards are better, it's often worth the risk
woeful lotus
also it always gives you 3 options for the next room
woeful lotus
i have never had 2 exits and the exits are already marked on the floor so i think you are misremembering
rough token
Reasonable xD
brisk trail
E
dim nest
if there's one complaint I have about the game it's that the gods have misleading boon dialogue
they'll be like "here then, is one of the greatest..." and all
and then you get the selection and it's just 3 rares
amber garden
I mean they think they are pretty great.
brisk trail
What if one of those 3 rares end up being something you've been looking for?
dim nest
all I'm saying is it sounds like they're about to give you a legendary
void walrus
I did have Poseidon give me that line before and then he gave me the fishing boon. =w =
tiny grove
they'll be like "here then, is one of the greatest..." and all
@dim nest they're allowed to be boastful no
dim nest
that one's a guarantee after ||you get the rod of fishing||
I'm not saying they aren't lol
tiny grove
xD
just saying that poseidon seems to think a whoooole lot of himself
and his boons
carmine ravine
you dont get "normal" help from gods, be rather grateful they help you in the first place
mighty token
Thinks hes Zues or somtin
carmine ravine
poseidon is viewed as the weird uncle in this game tho
tiny grove
you dont get "normal" help from gods, be rather grateful they help you in the first place
Yeah know your place minor god
dim nest
carmine ravine
poseidon literaly that uncle that want to bring you to fishing at weekends
unkempt sleet
does he even use boots
@tiny grove his feet are literally on fire
mighty token
poseidon is viewed as the weird uncle in this game tho
@carmine ravine
Poseidon KNOWS hes the weird uncle tf
rose nexus
I just smashed my freaking fingers in a window and idk ehat to do
rose nexus
Ive applied bandaid, but for playing game about blood amd darkness, i suck at fixing injuries aha
austere jacinth
Poseidon wants to be the 'cool' uncle so bad.
stone pebble
Some peope just dont appreciate buff hades man
They want that Hercules baby Mickey mouse crap, yes, I stole that quote
Ok I'll stpp
tame umbra
Does Ocean's Bounty work on the bossdrops? i mean the darkness and gems from bosses
quaint hatch
Yep
stone pebble
He's like, a giant to mom cant be that short
tame umbra
Thanks!
stone pebble
wait really
quaint hatch
Remember my comment from earlier?
quaint hatch
Abt jokes
stone pebble
oh those
quaint hatch
I'm not being serious
raw lantern
quaint hatch
Oh got me
soft mortar
Does anyone else have this problem taking random damage in boss fights
Its like a lingering hitbox
quaint hatch
It's called being greedy
rancid ember
The child of Demeter is 1 meter tall? Who would have thought it
I wonder how many meters is Demeter
quaint hatch
A lot
soft mortar
?
quaint hatch
No I don't
stone pebble
Lemme guess, lernie shockwave head smash?
stone pebble
ermm
soft mortar
I once got killed even after i beat the heros aswell
quaint hatch
He doesn't have a sword
stone pebble
||Oar slash?||
stone pebble
it's like, a really large hitbox, so yeah
soft mortar
But what about the other fights im in
I am all done with it
And i got killed
Like 10 secs after i finished it
stone pebble
Thats not physically possible tho
soft mortar
I cant capture video on switch sadly
soft mortar
How?
quiet gull
It records the LAST thirty seconds, mind
stone pebble
Its also not possible because you cant take damage after an encounter while the rewards are out I think
from attacks, at least
quiet gull
No, you totally can. just not immediately after the encounter ends
Definitely remember getting hit by some stray witch projectiles
stone pebble
but he said 10 seconds after
quaint hatch
Well if you stand in lava
soft mortar
Some lingering hitbox
quiet gull
That too
stone pebble
In elysium stadium
quaint hatch
Well as said I would want to see footage cause I never experienced that
soft mortar
I lost a good run on hades cuz of it
raw lantern
all of them 
stone pebble
Like, patro filled thme up?
soft mortar
Yep
tame umbra
it's hard to imagine that happens multiple times in a run
quaint hatch
Tbh talking about it won't get us anywhere
soft mortar
I was wondering if anyone else faced it
tame umbra
it doesnt have to go anywhere
quaint hatch
Afaik it happened to no one
soft mortar
Cuz if no i can just reinstall the game
stone pebble
Just an interesting phenomenon that happened
quaint hatch
So footage would be a great asset
Otherwise it's senseless
Or if somebody else has also experienced it ofc
soft mortar
Im here cuz it happened more than once
I fought hades lost it
Got to charon
And died to it
Then now again with charon
quaint hatch
I'm assuming it's just a confusion about mechanics
stone pebble
ohhhh, are you talking about his ||blade spin?||
quaint hatch
I went to charon
Lost 2 DD's and thats it
Because he's not that easy the first time you face him xD
Guys it's a paddle
stone pebble
Which attack did you slip up on
soft mortar
@stone pebble it happens on most attacks that are wide ranged
The swipe
Any swipe type of attack will linger
quaint hatch
Swipe has a p long lasting hitbox
quaint hatch
Nothing our of the ordinary tho
ornate summit
||Charon|| hits like a freight train
rancid ember
This game's math is interesting.
10 (base gun damage) + 15%(empowerment from Eris, or at least I think it was Eris) + 50% (Shadow Presence) = 16
10 + 56% = 16
10 + 15% + 56% (Poseidon attack boon) = 18
It feels... slightly inconsistent?
ornate summit
It's probably rounding. And yeah, it's additive
rancid ember
Yeah but it's not rounding in a consistent direction lol
quaint hatch
It's 10+65%
soft mortar
Im going to get to the heros again and if i see it im going to capture it
quaint hatch
Also where are you getting the 56% from?
quaint hatch
Yes
It's more than 50% more
rancid ember
Oh, Epic
ornate summit
Rare and above rarities have some variance in how strong they are
stone pebble
Buy why even using poseidon boon on gun attack 
ornate summit
Give or take 10% essentially
quaint hatch
Idk how they round
I'm assuming classic above/below0.5
Buy why even using poseidon boon on gun attack
@stone pebble memes
ornate summit
And yeah, it's beside the point, but you generally want additive damage on Exagryph Attacks since they give much better returns
rancid ember
idk I just looked at it and went "ooh, damage! And it's Epic!"
ornate summit
Heh, understandable
stone pebble
Purge it, and use like, arty attack boon
quaint hatch
...
ornate summit
Nah Artemis isn't worth
rancid ember
Arty? Not Zeus?
stone pebble
I guess you can do some sick combos and push them into your bomb
quaint hatch
We just talked a about how flat numbers are better on eris
And you just come in with the galaxy brain low percent
stone pebble
Yeah uh, I dont understand math
quaint hatch
ornate summit
Lightning or Drunken Strike are much stronger with Exagryph in general, hidden aspect notwithstanding
There's definitely some oddity with the rounding tho
quaint hatch
Eris has low numbers but global damage boosg
stone pebble
I dont care about math, I care about damage
quaint hatch
So flat numbers will do more
rancid ember
Doesn't Drunken Strike have a limit to reapplication?
quaint hatch
Since a percentile increase will only give you so much
ornate summit
Unfortunately figuring out damage involves math, Neon
quaint hatch
+100% damage would only be +10 damage
stone pebble
damn
quaint hatch
Common zeus attack is already like +12
stiff gust
Is there no more new items for the shop?
quaint hatch
What?
stone pebble
what shop
cloud apex
Common is +10
quaint hatch
Charon shop
stiff gust
The one in the foyer
woeful lotus
And zeus bounces doing even more dmg
stone pebble
playing hades is a mindset
quaint hatch
Common is +10
@cloud apex doesn't change my point lol
ornate summit
Exagryph Attack is slow enough to not hit it, Seian
quaint hatch
Oh you mean the contractor
stiff gust
Yea
stone pebble
When I take my mind off the game for one second, I forget everything about it
ornate summit
Hidden aspect aside
quaint hatch
Idk how far you are
Appears with play time
cloud apex
Indeed, I just told the more precise number
ornate summit
Uh, you unlock some stuff after credits roll
stone pebble
Im tryna not to fanboy for crab rn
ornate summit
Oh, unlocking stuff for runs? Yeah, that's the last unlock directly relevant to escape attempts
ornate summit
Beyond this point it's all story stuff and upgrading weapons/mirror
woeful lotus
Well theres all the diffrent weapon aspects if you dont have them all
stiff gust
Ye mirror is complete
ornate summit
All pairs of upgrades?
stiff gust
All pairs?
woeful lotus
The mirror has two sides
stiff gust
Oh yea
next sphinx
Oh man Artemis is MEAN when you use her call after you’ve chosen another God in her trial - normally I always choose her because I love her, but it was ||Demeter|| who is just really good at killing everything, so I couldn’t pick Art... and I forgot I had her aid
stiff gust
Not upgraded the ones i dont use
quaint hatch
I'm gonna try to hold back on this one
next sphinx
Artemis when you try to get her aid while she’s punishing you: ||What are you doing??||
Afterwards: ||Well I see you need all the help you can get, so here’s a pity boon for you||
stone pebble
Everyone is mean when you use their call against them
next sphinx
I figure, I’d just never done it before
ornate summit
Everyone is either baffled or annoyed
next sphinx
It’s more the comment afterwards that gets me, like OUCH
ornate summit
Zeus: ||I should be smiting YOU down!||
ornate summit
Yeah, Trial dialogue varies depending on how many times in a row you neglect them and how much damage you took after the Trial
next sphinx
Yeah, of course, it’s really understandable why they don’t respond well to being called against themselves
stiff gust
How do i unlock the 4th varient of eash weapon
ornate summit
Using ||Hades|| against himself is quite funny.
next sphinx
Oh man, I need to try that sometime
glass shell
dio just says ||seriously dude??||
quaint hatch
There's a pinned comment in #h1-story-discussion
ornate summit
For hidden aspects you ||invest enough Blood into the weapon's aspects, and various NPCs will eventually tell Zag the phrase to reveal it||
stone pebble
Suprise tool 
ornate summit
I think it's ||5 Blood per Aspect|| in total
quaint hatch
Not quite accurate
tawdry geyser
had a dream last night that a new patch came out, and the only thing different was that ||asterius|| was added as a romance option
let's make it happen fellas
quaint hatch
But as I said there's a pinned comment in #h1-story-discussion
ornate summit
Oh that'd be some good bait for some people I know, Emily
stone pebble
Thats a wild dream
glass shell
@tawdry geyser i can only imagine how jealous ||theseus|| would be
stone pebble
lol
quaint hatch
Now you ruined my pun
quaint hatch
i will remember that
stiff gust
The boss where you borrow somthing is soooo not worth
quaint hatch
If you got enough practice in he is
Also the earlier you take him in the better
Since you'll get more out of the cost reduction and you have time to restore your lost DD's
ornate summit
It's a test of how good you are at not getting hit, since they hit like a freight train
quaint hatch
Especially nice when you have the cost increase on pact
woeful lotus
i find him very worth honestly
ornate summit
50 damage from one swipe is pain
stone pebble
I did that once without taking damage
quaint hatch
Since the ||-20%|| will be even more impactful
rancid ember
I would kill for an Asterius romance tbh
but it's not gonna happen because he doesn't even have Nectar
...though tbh if romancing Theseus was included in it that'd be a hard NOPE from me
woeful lotus
it would be perfect if when you achive the romance he helps you kill thesius
quaint hatch
If we get asterius before bouldy romance I'm permanently out of here
next sphinx
I always go for the fight if I have the opportunity and a good dps build, if my dps is ehhh then I skip it
tawdry geyser
LMAO
stone pebble
Do they go to the pool of styx after you slay them?
Because they dont die they just fade away
quaint hatch
Nobody dies
stone pebble
Or slain, I guess
quaint hatch
Nice wrong channel
next sphinx
Maybe pool of styx is reserved for people who are already welcome in the house, like Meg and somewhat grudgingly, Zagreus
stone pebble
But I feel like tons of shade come through it, because Hypnos signs them in
next sphinx
True but I thought that was mostly for people who had died and lived on the surface?
Hydra doesn’t seem to come out of the pool of styx either, I’m sure we would hear about that
sterile peak
T+M and the Hydra kinda dissolve instead of getting sent into the styx pool
they probably just reconstitute or whatever
quaint hatch
^
stone pebble
I forgot what Zagreus says, but he says "Until you reform again, Lernie!" or something like that
Yeah
next sphinx
Oh yeah, and Skelly does too
next sphinx
I can’t wait until I finally actually find that out. I will, right? He’s faked me out so much I almost think the answer just never comes up
raven lava
stone pebble
You will, eventually
quaint hatch
Shhhh
stone pebble
He spawns because I think he's being paid to
quaint hatch
Neoooo
stone pebble
"I'm here to take it, not dish it out!"
quaint hatch
Might as well tell her the whole thing
stone pebble
I'm still not entirely sure if he's getting paid tho
ornate summit
(Which is not the point)
next sphinx
Okay, back to this run - still not sure if it’ll be an escape or not, but I’ll find out soon enough!
stone pebble
I think he literally tells you that he's being paid to take hits in the first few runs
ornate summit
||You think any old Bloodless would willingly go to Zagreus' quarters and be happy standing smack dab in the center of your courtyard, surrounded by living weapons and a collection of your very precious keepsakes?||
quaint hatch
But he also fakes you out a lot
stone pebble
i mean
quaint hatch
Who knows
Skellys a mystery
quaint hatch
Let's keep it like that
stone pebble
He doesn
't mind
probably
He seems to enjoy getting wailed on
Except for the poking stick and his ribs
And thats not a spoiler
just a little interaction
quaint hatch
You could say that about anything ;D
quaint hatch
Every storyline is just a series of little interactions
stone pebble
Bloody Bloodless Blugeoners
quaint hatch
Still can't write nice
Some things won't change
stone pebble
Shivers down your spine
So uh
Who else wants lernie and Cerby to fight?
or be friends
next sphinx
When you go for the skull room in ||Styx|| and it turns out to be a ||satyr sack|| chef’s kiss
Lernie and the little ones that pop up are too cute
ornate summit
I usually go for boss rooms second/third and pray I don't run into the Vermin King
next sphinx
Yes, I always save two ||companion summons|| for the skull rooms
gaunt root
Just a random question for the single run speedruns, I usually see people do it at around 8-9 heat
Why not turn it all the way down
stone pebble
Bounties
quaint hatch
Well TD makes survival rooms not appear
So that's a time saver
Bounties
@stone pebble tf
stone pebble
oh
next sphinx
I assume because they’re doing the speedrun to show off how well they play, and higher heats add to that
stone pebble
speedruns
gaunt root
ahh
stone pebble
whoops
quaint hatch
I dunno bout the rest
Ain't that deep in it xD
Afaik there's at least a minimum heat requirement
Don't quote me on that tho lol
next sphinx
Wait, a minimum heat requirement for what?
stone pebble
When you get a ||4% damage boost|| on ||bouldy's heart of stone, it feels good||
gaunt root
Theres no heat req on the leaderboards for the speedruns afaik
quaint hatch
I'm living for that ambiguity bonus
high island
I don't do speedrun WRs lol. And yeah, "any heat" allows for any heat.
32 requires 32. 50 requires 50.
quaint hatch
Didn't you have malphon wr?
next sphinx
Wait there’s 50 heat? Whoa I thought 32 was the upper limit
quaint hatch
Upper limit is 62 afaik