nope that's allowed here. I swear to god that word is forbidden on the Stellaris server
#h1-discussion
delicate pilot
sonic ridge
what a lawless land
delicate pilot
ask the mods of the stellaris server
apparently a game about genociding aliens and blowing up planets has to be strictly G
agile cargo
strange
robust scaffold
its the same thing for this server haha
delicate pilot
I mean this server allows me to say frick so it is very much not a G rated server
rapid forum
yes
delicate pilot
hell I bet they'd even let me say butt
warped atlas
would it be stupid of me to spend 15 of my 17 titans blood to fully upgrade aspect of eris?
delicate pilot
no
delicate pilot
I'm not sure frick is a swear either
robust scaffold
if u like it just do it
sonic ridge
follow your fingernails friend
robust scaffold
its up to discretion i guess
warped atlas
ive never actually spent titans blood so im not sure what to spend it on, but i dont really have a favorite weapon and eris sounds good
delicate pilot
anyway point is. the swear filter on this server isn't strict and all you gotta do is show a little self control and your post isn't removed person who is no longer paying attention to this discussion
sonic ridge
go ham
robust scaffold
yea why not
vague viper
"thats not easy" nooo offense but that kinda says sth about you
@agile cargo yikes
sonic ridge
no resources are limited anyway
robust scaffold
with like ||8 heat|| u can earn back ur titan blood
vague viper
is swearing some moral failing now lmao
robust scaffold
and its not that hard
agile cargo
definitely not
you can swear a lot while being a cool person
but finding it difficult to control it is kinda
vague viper
i dont care about the filter but like, i def get sniped
warped atlas
cool, thanks
vague viper
its not difficult to control just difficult to remember that people on the internet still censor swear words
stone pebble
Do you have to censor the heat levels? I feel like its not too big of a spoiler, unless how it gets to that way
delicate pilot
I dunno I think if you are literally unable to not swear that is a negative trait
yes you do have to censor that
it's post victory content
stone pebble
oh
agile cargo
they said "thats not easy" when someone said "dont swear" so im pretty sure they meant "not easy to control" and not "not easy to remember"
robust scaffold
if u start on hell mode u start with it right
delicate pilot
I mean ill say what I usually say
delicate pilot
I don't make the rules. I don't personally think its a big spoiler but its the rules it has to be censored
spoiler tagged
this swear discussion has my brain all mixed up
vague viper
im lost
robust scaffold
hahaha
agile cargo
dude why are you defensive. i dont think swearing a lot makes you a bad person, i just said finding it hard to not swear when specifically being instructed to is kinda weird (and not even weird enough to make you bad
sonic ridge
hi lost
agile cargo
what... was the joke
warped atlas
sorry for another off topic question, but is there a best aspect for malphon?
sonic ridge
uh
warped atlas
i mean i know its opinion but is there a commonly accepted bbest one?
robust scaffold
im not sure but is it the merciful end combo
delicate pilot
malphon is the fists right?
warped atlas
yes, sorry i didnt clarify
delicate pilot
I dont think there is a best one
but I'm a personal fan of the magnet special or the hidden aspect
rapid forum
I'm a personal fan of demeter
delicate pilot
I feel like the magnet special can be used to really do some damage
rapid forum
the burst damage is insane
delicate pilot
if you want a better answer go to #h1-builds-and-combat
sonic ridge
demeter good indeed
warped atlas
does that pull people closer when you use special?
delicate pilot
yes
stone gulch
||gilgamesh|| is my favorite
rapid forum
yes
warped atlas
haha, that sounds cool
delicate pilot
the push activates after the attack
so it pulls them in, they get hit, it pushes them back
delicate pilot
or rather its more like
i dont think the special has an AoE knockback with the fists
it has the on contact one
vernal obsidian
Last night I came up with a Hades freestyle but it was all in my head so I didn't write down anything
agile cargo
||haha no|| < oatsca you can click
stone pebble
like beat beat the game
?
OH
HE DIDNT BEAT BEAT THE GAME
You're gonna spend a lot more time with hades buddy, its gonna be a fun ride
bronze ravine
there def is more to it (and you're not done yet with story) but grats, that's quite the big step
winter pike
|| idk if this counts as spoilers but tagging anyways, I just checked my death defied because I'm talking to pat and there's nothing there but an infinity, even tho I've used the mirror to get 3? Should I get the kiss os styx or would that do nothing ||
agile cargo
but yeah congrats tho!!!
for beating redacted
its always hard on your first attempt
winter pike
|| Hades ||
agile cargo
it gets easier after that but that just means u grew, no matter literally (like permanent upgrades) or metaphorically (experiences)
winter pike
|| when u get killed by Hades hypnos says the list says u were killed by redacted ||
winter pike
Brruuhh NVM I just accidentally switched to stubborn defiance 
stone pebble
gotten more than half of the achievements
help me
No worries eurydice
just use the key
on teh bottom right
winter pike
I have all the properties of the mirror
I just need to go switch it in the mirror for my next run lol
woeful olive
lmao hades ||pretending i never beat him||
agile cargo
||I FELT SO UTTERLY BETRAYED WHEN DAD PRETENDED I NEVER BEAT HIM LIKE..... CAN U AT LEAST ACT SALTY TO GIVE ME SOME VICTORY DOPAMINE||
woeful olive
||eh i feel like his total pettiness in the lack of ability to address his defeat was dopamine-y enough||
oh dear god yeah there's still a lot to do
i 100%'d gungeon despite thinking i'd only play it till i won, it looks like this might be a similar situation
it's such a great game
granite ether
@stone pebble please do not circumvent or avoid the swear filter, thankyou ^_^
woeful olive
artemis is best girl
unkempt sleet
Good, more people join the artemis fan club
rapid forum
yes
woeful olive
hey i need to reach max frienship with skelly
brisk trail
Give him more stuff
woeful olive
will repeatedly killing myself and coming back into his room allow me to talk to him?
i've given him max stuff
brisk trail
I would keep doing runs, you're going to need a lot of stuff
brisk trail
You need more stuff than that
woeful olive
explain
brisk trail
You need ||a minimum of 5 titan blood and I think 3 ambrosia||
clever osprey
||i think you need to speak with patroclus too||
brisk trail
@clever osprey no I don't think he has anything to do with it
clever osprey
idk it's when u look for the past of skelly
stone pebble
Ah
woeful olive
Oh piss off poseidon
woeful olive
"huge catch"
brisk trail
Which has nothing to do with raising his relationship, and that character has nothing to say about it
woeful olive
what an atrocious legendary boon
stone pebble
Huge catch is honestly one of my favorite boons
brisk trail
Huge catch is great 👌
stone pebble
My favorite part of hades is the fishing game
brisk trail
It's like a lot of free room rewards
stone pebble
but I suck at reflex
so I dont get a legendary fish
never gonna fulfill that prophecy!
brisk trail
I need 2 more legendary fish and 1 common fish and I have maxed codex
And I have to max hypnos relationship but he's being difficult
clever osprey
ahhhh my bad , it's with asterius
like zagreus speaking to asterius about the past of skelly
brisk trail
Yeah, asterius mentions a potential past for skelly that I think is a red herring, but it has nothing to do with raising his relationship
brisk trail
It's not important for the relationship
woeful olive
oh ok
brisk trail
But you talk to him every time you run into him
woeful olive
ohhh
clever osprey
anyway just keep doin' runs
rapid forum
when in doubt, do more runs
clever osprey
+1
surreal pelican
quick vector
Do we know what future features and other things might come ?
neon mist
Does anyone know how to advance the relationship with a Character?
granite ether
advance the relationship as in ||unlock the heart lock?||
if yes, ||each character has specific requirements for that to occur||
neon mist
With ||Dusa||. I'm not quite sure how to go about doing it for her
woeful lotus
Honestly cant remember but you end up unlocking them all as you just go along really
candid knoll
Boss spoilers: ||I finished the Hades fight with 11 hp and one clutch use of greater Athena Call... THEN HE REGAINS ALL HIS HP ANYWAY AND I GET CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY HIS RING ATTACK||
carmine ravine
ring atk?
bronze ravine
@neon mist for ||dusa|| you need to ||renovate the lounge quite a bit, iirc you need to repair the damages caused by cerberus, buy a rug, and buy a certain amount of furniture||
about ||10-15 furniture iirc||
neon mist
Oh dear Lord. Because farming the gems and crystals wasn't fun already.
bronze ravine
gotta commit for best girl
carmine ravine
yes buy stuffs so ||she can dump you||
ornate summit
||friendzone*||
mellow haven
romance bouldy when
ornate summit
Still love her tho
candid knoll
Yeah ring attack, the one where he pulses
neon mist
Also yes @bronze ravine , I see we both share common knowledge on ||Dusa|| being best girl.
ornate summit
Oh, the beams with the knockback waves. Bit of a pain yeah
granite ether
Dusa spoilers ahead. ||Friendzone isn't really accurate (and honestly irritates me a bit). She comes to understand how she feels towards zag, she still loves zag just not in a sexual manner and more ace rep is great imho||
carmine ravine
Stage 1 of grief: denial
ornate summit
Yeah, it's ||moreso platonic love than anything, I reckon. Aphrodite approves anyway||
granite ether
||Aphrodite would definitely approve since there's a dialogue of her mentioning 7 types of love from memory||
carmine ravine
she talked about that when u start unlocking dusa heart iirc
dark scroll
1782 gold, final boss time, guess which hammer I have.
granite ether
hoarding slash?
dark scroll
And you get to choose between curtain number 1 or curtain number 2!!!
carmine ravine
cursed slash?
odd grail
Me: gets a stupidly powerful run Fails somehow
Also Me: now want to see me do it again?
brisk trail
We've all thrown a Hunting Blades run.
odd grail
Haven't actually tried hunting blades yet
Was going to, just didn't work out for the run I tried
brisk trail
So about Dusa, ||you mean platonic love. Like a friend, I wonder what you would call it if you were in a zone of friendship with someone 🤔🤔||
carmine ravine
shipzone
brisk trail
Hot take, zagreus isn't real, this is just Sisyphus' daydreaming as he eternally pushes bouldy up the hill
glass shell
or maybe he's just a product of orpheus' confusion
bronze ravine
only cerberus is real, his 3 heads are able to create all of this in his imagination
brisk trail
I never noticed sisyphus decorated his shackles, it actually reminds me of the time I asked a guy how you could live life properly if you thought you were in a simulation, and he said you have to imagine sisyphus happy, you have to comfort yourself even though you're doomed to do the same thing over and over again, you have to be your own change and your own inspiration, deep stuff lol
neon mist
I like Sisyphus
austere jacinth
That's an Albert Camus quote. Or a paraphrasing of it. I like it a lot. It's the perfect perspective for a gamer.
And roguelikes in particular. xD
brisk trail
I think he did tell me a couple philosophers to read, I know that's something he was big into so you might be onto something
But this really puts it into perspective, turn the boulder into a friend, design your shackles, keep a good attitude 😂
If you're endlessly going to be doing something you might as well figure out how to enjoy it
brisk trail
I can be a bit of an asshat myself
crude onyx
I had to read one of his works for English in high school
His writing style is just kinda annoying
Just loads as many big words and random literature references as he could
Felt so bloated
austere jacinth
Most philosophers are a bit pretentious. Goes with the territory. Doesn't mean it's not still interesting, or you can't get value from it.
crude onyx
Oh for sure
austere jacinth
That said, Plato did have a rant about how Achilles was a bottom, so there's a good deal of amusement sometimes too.
I wonder what Achilles and Pat would think of philosophers debating their sex lives. xD
unkempt basin
Is there any news/rummors about and expansion/DLC for Hades?
austere jacinth
Nothing to report yet.
brisk trail
A lot of those ancient greeks liked to throw shade, for sure 😂 poe was the original emo, reading his unedited works is a bit of a headache
Hawthorne also is a pain to read, just endlessly boring
austere jacinth
SGG is a small team, they're taking it easy post-launch, and we have no idea what they'll do next (DLC? New Game? Extended break after the hell-year?)
brisk trail
Yeah there's a lot of love in hades, impressed by the endless amounts of new dialogue
sinful pine
Question regarding heats:
Can i still earn the rewards of heat 0 if i go heat 1+?
because i haven't ||finished a run|| with most weapons
brisk trail
Yeah you get the lowest level of heat you haven't completed every time
sinful pine
oh
so even if i do heat 1 i'll only get whatever rewards from heat 0
clear heat 0
then go heat 1?
brisk trail
If you do heat 20 and you haven't done heat 1 you'll get the reward for heat 0
brisk trail
Or if you get bored crank it up and rest assured you're not missing your rewards
I think the bonuses do end at heat 20 though, no matter how high you go, but I haven't gotten there personally yet
bronze ravine
||heat|| is a spoiler, you should tag it
brisk trail
If you don't know what it means based on the name is it really a spoiler?
bronze ravine
that's what I've been told several times, basically hidden aspects, last area, last boss and anything post-first clear are to be tagged as spoiler
brisk trail
Huh. Ok.
bronze ravine
that's even in the spoiler channel, you can read the channel description for that
brisk trail
My only point is if someone said once you play hades 5 times you unlock nilla wafers or something equally mysterious it wouldn't make enough sense to spoil anything for me
bronze ravine
I don't mind personally but they choose to make it like that
and since it's not a problem to spoil tag anyway, might as well
bronze ravine
no idea
cerulean birch
why there is no HELP menu in the game to learn about boons and the sales,
and a god provides these boons etc....
brisk trail
Keep playing
modest finch
@brisk trail They mentioned it was being recorded and made available after. But no idea where to access it
bronze ravine
You get the list of gods boon in the codex after an upgrade from the contractor iirc
brisk trail
You get the codex from achilles and then you can upgrade it to show you the boons, but I'm not sure if that's a spoiler or not
bronze ravine
It's not end game so it's fine I think
brisk trail
do better rarity perks from well/eurydice make duo/legendary boons appear with higher chance?
someone answered: yes
slate jetty
yes, Refreshing Nectar makes duos and legendaries more likely to appear
brisk trail
What rarity perk comes from well, do you mean chaos?
slate jetty
yarn of ariadne, probably
brisk trail
no, I meant ariadna, but chaos works too
slate jetty
it also works
brisk trail
Ohhh ok
Yeah both work
Really love an early 30% rarity from chaos great start to a run
btw, watching eris rail any heat WR, when offered sea storm and hydraulic might he picked the latter, wtf...
That looks kind of fun, never tried a poseidon eris run
eris rail zeus + poseidon is so broken
I don't really like the idea of hydraulic but I guess a lot of my fights are short anyway, but I usually prepare for the boss the rest of the game doesn't bother me too bad
im trying to get sub 10 IGT with it, consistently can do sub 12 with it, very easy build
I like zeus on attack, my favorite is cluster bombs, rocket, and artemis special
subtle carbon
might is really good for the hermes tinket runs
brisk trail
I mean sure
I know its super good, but sea storm is the main idea
although he did get epic hermes speed
proven slate
My new favorite is the dio + poseidon duo boon to make all the boons after minimum epic.
brisk trail
I just like to see the 5 explosions at point blank with epic crits and boom
woeful lotus
im not a fan of that duo
brisk trail
Yeah that's pretty sweet if you can get it early on
Same with the pomegranate one
btw why isnt there a speedrunning channel
woeful lotus
thye pomegranate one i feel is better atleast cause even if you have the boons you want you can still boost them
brisk trail
Builds and combat
Yeah I didn't like pomegranates at first but they're necessary for some builds when you're really focused
Also you get more pomegranates after you've played awhile
I only need 46 more diamonds 🙃 kill me.
woeful lotus
"only"
proven slate
I'm kinda focusing on getting my prophecies filled out so I've been liking that duo
woeful lotus
gotta finish EVRYTHING
brisk trail
Yeah lol
I only need like 330k darnkess for max rank
What really sucks is I actually like a lot of these songs but the ones you buy are wordless, like I love the hymn to zagreus, but it's really lame without the words 😂
I've only bought one ||rank|| but I've almost maxed out the mirror
Those end options cost a lot
proven slate
I've almost maxed out the build I'll use most with the mirror. I don't think I'm going to max both sides.
woeful lotus
it goes really fast to farm darkness once you finish the bounties on a weapon
brisk trail
Yeah I don't need to, I know my favs, I just am one of those
proven slate
Yeah I've been grinding a lot on heat 0
brisk trail
Not for me, I do a new ||heat|| everytime for those damn diamonds 😂
proven slate
Getting darkness and trying to do prophecies
woeful lotus
yeah but eventually it stops giving bounties
after 20 heat theres no more bounty on that weapon
brisk trail
But I also switch weapons every time for more darkness lol
I need a new controller, this stick drift is killing me
My cat paws my controller onto the ground ONE TIME
quaint hatch
I would say keep it away from em
But it's not like that's an easy thing with cats lol
brisk trail
My cat goes where she pleases ;(
brisk trail
She ignores 95% of her toys, sleeps BETWEEN her two beds, and her new favorite toy is my quartz crystal
proven slate
I feel like you could have the same problem with a dog
brisk trail
Especially huskies
Beautiful dogs. But evil.
I worked as a pet groomer for about a year. Huskies are devil dogs.
woeful lotus
yeah those are the kind of dogs where you need to know what you are getting into
brisk trail
Beautiful devil dogs
proven slate
i refer to my cat as a dog because she'll play fetch and wants constant attention
lol
woeful lotus
i mean they are great if they get proper excersise and stimilation
quaint hatch
Yo friend of mine have a cat like that
brisk trail
My cat will fetch a milk ring, I guess almost all cats love milk jug rings
quaint hatch
She's in the room every time we wake up and wants to cuddle lol
proven slate
mine likes nerf darts
brisk trail
I had a cat that liked to destroy nerf darts
proven slate
she also does that lol
brisk trail
I'm doing a zeus spear build this time lol, I got zeus special and the spear hammer that makes it bounce
Now I'm trying to think where to go next with it 😂
proven slate
wish my hand didn't hurt if i play more than one run of Hades without a good amount of rest time in between
woeful lotus
well prolly double strike and spliting bolt i guess
proven slate
but such is life. rip
brisk trail
Probably more bounces
Double strike is always great yeah
Storm lightning and splitting bolt probably
I will be the god of the sky.
proven slate
i wish i got more trout
woeful lotus
i thought you said you got the zeus zpecial?
brisk trail
Ohhh the spear bounces not the lightnijg, you're right
proven slate
my builds right now are awful. i'm taking any boon i see over shops and saving my money till the end to roll boons at the 4th level
brisk trail
Yeah splitting bolt and double strike, maybe the jolted one, I love jolt
woeful lotus
yeah jolted is legit the best debuff imo
brisk trail
@proven slate I do something a little similar I build up a bunch of money with the 15% coin mirror perk thing
woeful lotus
especially when you are running FO
brisk trail
Yeah cold fusion is insaaaaane
@brisk trail They mentioned it was being recorded and made available after. But no idea where to access it
@modest finch thanks!
It just gacks some enemies instantly
proven slate
poseidon though is the most fun to bully mooks
nothing more fun than stun locking your most hated enemy into a corner and watch their health melt
brisk trail
Poseidon shield is hilarious
woeful lotus
yeh i like demeter zeus and aphro and as core with zeus call
brisk trail
I just made bullyfists yesterday with push basic attack and push legendary and rupture
Super fun stuff
proven slate
not a fan of zeus other than having one option as aoe. although i just like big numbers so
lol
woeful lotus
i still love runnig overcomplicated builds that are stupidly hard to get but its still fun
brisk trail
Zeus is one of my favorites, zeus dash with hermes extra dashes and jolt effect and you just kill things by zipping around
proven slate
that's fair
brisk trail
how do you get hades qa?
proven slate
i'm used to having athena dash
brisk trail
And chain lightning with like rail attack is super fun
woeful lotus
i feel like that limits you so much
like athena dash is great and all but it means that you always have to have athena
brisk trail
It's a great dash, but once you get ruthless reflex down I think it gives you a lot more options for viable dashes
proven slate
athena and reflection is usually a good way to proc the 40% mirror buff
for me at least
brisk trail
I use the olympian one because I'm always using a different weapon
proven slate
but right now i'm not really making good builds. i'm making builds with athena dash as a crutch
quaint hatch
Jolted more so with the duo
brisk trail
And I don't usually go in with a build planned
quaint hatch
FF is better in most cases tho
woeful lotus
shes a great option i just think it limits you if you stick to her all the time
quaint hatch
The only reason not to use athena dash is for build or practice reasons
proven slate
i mean i'd branch out but i usually lose my runs without athena dash because i'm not good at the game
quaint hatch
Or because you find it to stronk xD
brisk trail
Privileged is probably more fun but a lot more strict for building around
quaint hatch
It's very aspect and build specific yeah
brisk trail
And you usually have to set it up with two attacks before you get the benefits
woeful lotus
well you can use dash often enough
brisk trail
I use the 3 shards thing for the fun of it and the extra mechanic I play with even though I think the returning shard is probably more useful
brisk trail
Dude I got dio cast with mirage shot or whatever, HILARIOUS
woeful lotus
i like stygian on hera tho
brisk trail
6 festive fogs at a time
quaint hatch
Hunting blades with mirage shot
i like stygian on hera tho
@woeful lotus that's what I meant with dio
When you build dio on hera, stygian is nicer
quaint hatch
Otherwise infernal is better
Hera has shortened drop time and there's also the hermes perk
Which makes it like 2.5 secs
brisk trail
Infernal is probably better on things you get your shards back immediately but for long range casts I'd rather not have to run around collecting them
And I think the distraction probably loses me dps
woeful lotus
if you get greater recall they come automatically
quaint hatch
Usually your dps should be enough to one shot most
Otherwise exit wounds or a bow special to the face will do the rest
Infernal is better for most cast builds since if you can just outright kill most enemies that's not a problem
proven slate
i tend not to like specials since they leave me standing stilll too long
unless it's the gun's
quaint hatch
Gotta know how to use em :3
brisk trail
But it's also a little like ruthless reflex, they're about equal, but if you get ONE extra dash or ONE extra crystal it's supremely better not even close
proven slate
ye
after i get everything unlocked i'll probably be trying to get better at the g ame
and never pick athena
brisk trail
Or you could get better right now
quaint hatch
All a matter of practice
proven slate
i mean i could but i still need athena for some duo boons
brisk trail
Zeus dash is pretty strong, ares is ok, dionysus can be good at times
brisk trail
Aphrodite I find hard to use
brisk trail
Artemis is pretty damn good most of the time
Poseidon is alright a lot of the time, but yeah athena blows most of them away by a lot
quaint hatch
Artemis needs a dedicated build
woeful lotus
% dmg honestly kinda works with all weapons
quaint hatch
But getting an artemis build isn't heart
Everything works with all weapons
Tf is up with my auto correct
proven slate
it's drunk
quaint hatch
Works=before
Alright
brisk trail
Artemis doesn't really need a dedicated build really
quaint hatch
Aphrodite and heart rend
brisk trail
Like, just crit things to death
quaint hatch
At least
woeful lotus
true but slow attacking weapons kinda suffer for stuff like zeus and dio
proven slate
artemis you need a lot of things for it to work
quaint hatch
That's what I meant
brisk trail
No not at all
quaint hatch
true but slow attacking weapons kinda suffer for stuff like zeus and dio
@woeful lotus .
proven slate
i mean, the marking, the crit damage, the extra crit
brisk trail
Do you have high base damage or a fast attack? You'll probably like critting with it
quaint hatch
Fast hitting weapons benefit more from flat damage
Slow high dmg more from percents
Artemis wants heart rend at least
brisk trail
Too much work, I'd just rather get a good hammer and a high crit chance
And move onto something else
proven slate
so is ares better with fists?
brisk trail
In magic the gathering we call that magical Christmas land, but I thought your argument was that artemis was too dedicated
And now you're saying it's really not that hard at all lol
brisk trail
Hades is a bit like a tcg
quaint hatch
How is getting 1 duo magical Christmas run
You'll have one of those in tartarus
proven slate
actually yeah getting that constant 100 damage proc is nice
quaint hatch
Aphro in apshidel the latest
brisk trail
I compared it to slay the spire when I first got it
woeful lotus
tbf i had a run yesterday where i got cold fusion and the zeus legendary in tartarus
it was a good time
quaint hatch
Ofc build composition can be lonely compared to deck building
brisk trail
Cold fusion is sweeet
quaint hatch
And chances etc
brisk trail
Not edh
quaint hatch
But it still works different enough
brisk trail
The format I play the most
quaint hatch
Bro how tf should I know what format you play in magic
brisk trail
I'm just saying edh is way lonelier than hades builds lol
Also edh is the most popular magic format next to standard
quaint hatch
I play yugi, shadow, runeterra
quaint hatch
Never touched magic cause of the weird people that always played magic in the Yugioh locals and regioanals
I stopped hearthstone very quickly
Too much ARAM
brisk trail
That's how we felt about the yu-gi-oh and pokemon players lol
proven slate
hearthstone being pay to have fun makes it hard to get into
quaint hatch
Well at least we can agree that pokemon players were weird
brisk trail
I like the side formats for hearthstone you can buy those with gold with a little dedication
proven slate
we had dragon ball z card game players on magic night
that was the closest i got to another card game
brisk trail
Yeah someone made me a dragonball z deck and a naruto deck
That person was weird
And they always smelled like pee
brisk trail
I still have them but I only played twice 😬
My edh deck now is worth more than my car
quaint hatch
But to not derail to much
My point was other build require much more investment
For artemis you only need 3 boons for the basic setup
Obvs you still build on that but that's the basic stuff
brisk trail
No I refuse.
quaint hatch
I never had the money to spend 400 quid on a Yugioh meta deck
Jesus hades must be hard for you then
If getting one duo is work for you
brisk trail
Yeah...yeah uhmm..my edh deck is way more than that, I'll find a money translator
No the opposite, hades is really easy for me so I add more challenge by building as I go along
And not always going for the same easy combos
quaint hatch
Don't
I don't wanna get flashbacks to when I bought a meta card for 30 bucks and a day later it went down to 50 cent
And not always going for the same easy combos
@brisk trail thanks for admitting it's easy
brisk trail
Ok my edh deck seems to be worth 3040 pound sterling
proven slate
My edh decks were around 1k each. I stopped playing magic after 3 decks because my interest couldn't keep up.
brisk trail
Which is what google gave me when I tried to convert to quid
quaint hatch
I'm not saying you should always build crit etc
I'm just saying if you build it it doesn't require much effort in of itself
I'm in europe
brisk trail
And your argument was it was too hard to do
quaint hatch
I just use quid as a general term
brisk trail
I don't use quid at all
quaint hatch
And your argument was it was too hard to do
@brisk trail are you even reading what I was writing
brisk trail
Are you reading what you're writing lol
quaint hatch
Thats not much work
@quaint hatch .
proven slate
Honestly I rarely get a duo boon outside of the 4th level so I don't plan builds around them
brisk trail
Artemis needs a dedicated build
@quaint hatch
My argument is that no, no it doesn't.
quaint hatch
Dedicated build is a lose word in that sense
By that I meant you should at least have heart rend
Which I wrote afterwards
Over and over again
proven slate
I'm gonna do ares fists and see how that goes
brisk trail
Just like that bouldy's benefits are all intrinsic despite you not knowing what the word means 🙃
quaint hatch
I'm gonna do ares fists and see how that goes
@proven slate take athena special and dash
Aim for merciful end duo
Win
brisk trail
Ares fists could be fun
brisk trail
Or fist hidden aspect and ares special
Could be hilarious
Or doom stacking fist attack
quaint hatch
Just like that bouldy's benefits are all intrinsic despite you not knowing what the word means 🙃
@brisk trail that really struk deep huh?
proven slate
Yeah the boon to stack doom damage might be nice
brisk trail
As an English major brutalizations of the language hurt me yes
proven slate
Was thinking aphro special too in case I get that duo boon
brisk trail
Aphro has great damage increase for sure
quaint hatch
I sometimes feel like sometimes you sometimes selectively misunderstand what I'm saying
My point with bouldy=intrinsic value was because I give bouldy the nectar not because of the buffs
Cause they are not worth it because the buffs give me the value
But gifting gives me the values
brisk trail
And weak helps a lot
quaint hatch
I.e. intrinsic
brisk trail
And my point is you aren't using that word right
quaint hatch
Also I'm not a native English speaker
So checkmate atheist
brisk trail
Agnostic
quaint hatch
It's a meme
brisk trail
You're a meme
quaint hatch
Sad that being an English major suddenly makes you serious and unable to to see others perspectives apparently
brisk trail
It's not perspective if you're just outright wrong
It's sad that you can't stand being corrected so you don't continue to make the same mistake
quaint hatch
Ok so I just say how I see it
Then you tell me what exactly is wrong about it
quaint hatch
Look man
I'm trying to break it down now so we are both at the same level and I can try to understand it
I'm trying to get on your side here
brisk trail
2+2 isn't 5 because of how you understand it, it's 4, all day everyday
brisk trail
What's your original language
quaint hatch
So you can be satisfied since you're better in english than me
odd grail
@quaint hatch what are you having trouble with?
brisk trail
I dunno where he's going with it
brisk trail
I just corrected him on the wrong use of a word yesterday and I guess he doesn't understand it still
glass shell
is there any reward for getting a high streak or is it just cool numbers
quaint hatch
So you can also lay it to rest
Also I want to acknowledge your skills
Why do you keeps being condescending when I'm trying to make the effort to understand it
odd grail
What was the circumstance and the word
brisk trail
I think you smoked too much of the devil's lettuce this morning
quaint hatch
Idk if third party makes it better
I think you smoked too much of the devil's lettuce this morning
@brisk trail ok seriously dude that's too far
proven slate
think you two should stop before a mod gets involved
brisk trail
Basically he said giving nectar to bouldy was all intrinsic value and no extrinsic value
But there's a buff you get
quaint hatch
For me at least
Because I don't care about the buff
And only about the good feeling I get from gifting bouldy
brisk trail
But you get it regardless
quaint hatch
So there is extrinsic value yes
brisk trail
So it's an unfactual statement, so I corrected his use of the word
quaint hatch
But as I said
I'm trying to get on better terms with that
And you just keeps insulting me
odd grail
take it to dms to stop clogging up the chat (if that was rude I apologize)
brisk trail
It's unfortunate you feel insulted but that's not the intention
quaint hatch
take it to dms to stop clogging up the chat (if that was rude I apologize)
@odd grail nah man
You're entirely right
odd grail
thanks
quaint hatch
I'm just stubborn ^^
mint hawk
fwiw feeling superior to someone else just because you're better at your first language than they are at their second is definitely incorrect
odd grail
btw intrinsic is internal, extrinsic is external, so if you only care about the feeling of gifting bouldy that I feel would be intrinsic
just my 2 cents : D
glass shell
squiddy i like your pfp
raw lantern
i have no other use for nectar at this point so i always gift to bouldy
brisk trail
I'm not trying to feel superior, I just don't like it when people use things wrong and nobody ever lets them know
it's like if someone never let you know you smell bad, I don't like people embarrassing themselves
odd grail
squiddy i like your pfp
@glass shell Froggi gang
mint hawk
i can see that the original intent was good, but if you keep digging in your heels then you're in the wrong
is it "digging your heels in"?
i'm super self-conscious about my use of the language now LOL
brisk trail
I'll never tell you. never
odd grail
LOL, I think there is a case for both
hard pier
has decided to not give you a boost this run. Thanks for the nectar.
mint hawk
i was so sure that ambiguity bonus would give me random boosts perhaps on a per-room basis (since it still specifies 2%)
i was crushed when i learned that he actually didn't believe in me
mint hawk
i've checked the code, at least in this current update, he does not in fact believe in you 😢
odd grail
Maybe he doesn't believe in you believing in him so he doesn't help until you truly believe
glass shell
yeah have you tried believing harder
mint hawk
you may have a point there, until i learned that he doesn't believe in me i definitely felt stronger when i had an ambiguity bonus
brains are weird
brisk trail
Everything is perception 👁️
stone pebble
" Another day or night in paradise "
stone pebble
Thats my way of saying "good morning"
brisk trail
my way of saying good morning is usually coffee emoji ☕
stone pebble
Speaking of coffee, whats up with the taco and fries in the game
Theres no codex entry for it
brisk trail
I think it's just supposed to represent health..but reversed
void walrus
@stone pebble I do believe it's not a taco but actually a gyro
quaint hatch
i can see that the original intent was good, but if you keep digging in your heels then you're in the wrong
@mint hawk ig that was my point @brisk trail
I'm done now
true notch
Cos gyros are greek and the developers probably thought that it would be funny
brisk trail
gyros are very tasty
void walrus
@stone pebble Food usually represents health and gyro is a classic greek food? That's my logic.
brisk trail
especially with tzatziki
true notch
As
stone pebble
ohhhhhhhh
true notch
Hell
quaint hatch
Gyro is healthy obvs
stone pebble
that makes sense
brisk trail
wabbajack. wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack, wabbajack wabbajack.
proven slate
i got the ares + poseidon cast and it is shredding
brisk trail
👀
brisk trail
I think you get it an hour or so into the game right?
mint hawk
from what i can tell things that get mentioned in the patch notes don't count as spoilers
brisk trail
speaking of which I saw a speedrunner finish a full run in 25 minutes from game start to final boss dead 🙃
made me feel bad about myself
quaint hatch
from what i can tell things that get mentioned in the patch notes don't count as spoilers
@mint hawk if they mention post styx stuff they do afaik
mint hawk
that makes sense
quaint hatch
But there's channels to discuss that ^^
mint hawk
i was previously told that aspects mentioned in patch notes are fine to not spoiler tag
robust sundial
||spoiler tag everything to be polite||
quaint hatch
At least on this and #h1-for-new-players
rose nexus
you know what id kill for ? voice actor bloopers 
quaint hatch
stone pebble
Bouldy accidentally says something 
brisk trail
voice acting bloopers would be great
I want to hear a hades flub-up and him laugh at himself
or Hypnos
brisk trail
Hypnos has been hitting the lotuses a little hard
void walrus
Voice actor bloopers would be pure gold
void walrus
I would love to hear Thanatos mess up a line and just get all goofy and relaxed
proven slate
...posted results of my fist build in victory boasting
stone pebble
Is it kinda funny how when you ||aphro full call hades, he chuckles a bit?||
wicked lagoon
question about a minor prophecy
does anybody have an estimate of how many times ||I must play the Lyre to get the Gift of Song prophecy||? it's my last prophecy
||I'm at the stage where the "Play" gives songs||
robust sundial
250 times, but ||if you're already hearing songs you're pretty close to done||
wicked lagoon
||do you know how close so I just start counting down?||
robust sundial
I'd say 50 or so.
wicked lagoon
thanks a lot!
wicked lagoon
I HOPE you mean in total
I already did a dialogue once, is there more dialogue to do?
wicked lagoon
does it pop up after I reach the goal, or do I have to do a run in the middle too
sudden cloak
pewdiepie is strating 1st hades stream i think, might be fun to watch
wicked lagoon
I have over 120hours and it's the only thing htat's not done, it's irritating me in a special spot of my brain
and the cd of it is so long too >_<
quaint hatch
You're not alone
brisk trail
||father is the final boss ? ||
quaint hatch
Neeeeooon
quaint hatch
Oh i though you meant the spoiler lol
stone pebble
I'm talking about the chart
quaint hatch
How is zeus neutral bastard?
wicked lagoon
Hades is just a struggling overworked father 
robust sundial
what's this about "valid" ?
stone pebble
Mentions some pretty familiar names
like...
thanatos
:)
Hades is just a struggling overworked father :sad:
@wicked lagoon Being lord of the underworld is a tough job, those damn needy shades!
mystic nexus
Honestly Neutral Valid was the one I struggled with the most
wicked lagoon
tfw you are a literal greek god and you're stuck at a desk office and your waifu is gone forever and your child is a lazy good-for-nothing that doesn't want to work
I'd be upset too
mystic nexus
It was kind of a toss-up between Meg and Achilles
glass flame
This just in: the Aspect of Hera is fantastic
stone pebble
always has been
rose nexus
hades breaking pewds's computer is the highlight of my day
stone pebble
I meaaan
rose nexus
hades, more like hadeeznuts
glass flame
I just unlocked it and getting to send out rift blades out from wherever the shot lands? Bro. Brooooooo.
stone pebble
Psst, dm me @rose nexus that
rose nexus
Psst, dm me @rose nexus that
@stone pebble huh ?
glass flame
A few upgrades to my cast and I'll be crowd clearing from a mile away
rose nexus
oh the link ?
rose nexus
the game just dosnt wanna work on stream x,D
quaint hatch
rose nexus
dim nest
I've got to say
the OST is so damn good
Lament of Orpheus was playing in the House before my run and I just sat there for like 10 minutes to listen to it over and over
wicked lagoon
How far are you into the game DTG? (Thats what ima call you if thats ok)
@stone pebble friends call me that all the time, np
https://i.imgur.com/BKXPkVX.png and I would say I'm done with the game, pretty much
austere jacinth
I had that before I managed to get ||the threesome||. I was not done with the game xDD
stone pebble
damn
HECK
I was gonna make a joke
because
||Zagreus' job post-credits is to escape 
||
wicked lagoon
where do you get the fancy badges btw? https://i.imgur.com/3jR87HH.png https://i.imgur.com/V9olLZm.png (sorry it's OT)
wicked lagoon
for the Discord
wicked lagoon
Discord Roles
stone pebble
oh
wicked lagoon
sorry I can't express myself properly apparently
stone pebble
I understand you
dim nest
ah, sorry I thought you were referring to the badges on your profile
stone pebble
Like the name color?
wicked lagoon
Greater Reflex lol
wicked lagoon
shoutout to Golden Touch, it's hilarious
wicked lagoon
if you greed for the last floor it gives you way more than 100
because it compounds on itself
coarse kayak
still no update regarding cross play?
stone pebble
like multiplayer?
coarse kayak
No, cross saves, switch to pc and vice versa
austere jacinth
It'll happen eventually. There is no projected release.
coarse kayak
Gotcha,patience it is
ornate summit
Almost every god can apply a Curse somehow, so Privileged Status is easy to feed
stone pebble
they all do
brisk trail
Ohhh, well, Ares is the only one that curses, the others are status effects
curse is an actual keyword used for abilities
and curse itself is also a status effect
brisk trail
Oooo, that's very possible, but I think the effects that apply doom have curse in the name
and even more fun on the site they call them Status Curses, but things that refer to curses only apply to ares doom status effect, or am I wrong about that
because otherwise the things that affect curses are a lot better than I thought
ornate summit
Oh, the game calls them Status Curses too.
brisk trail
yeah
ornate summit
Ares' curse is still called Doom, though
brisk trail
yeah, I just wrote both of those things
above your message
and apparently charm is not a status curse
austere jacinth
Ares is a King. My love for him. And Doom.
stone pebble
" On tonights news.. DOOOOOOOOM " -Alien dude
brisk trail
ornate summit
Yes it is, at least on Switch
brisk trail
And if you know who Jhonen Vasquez is, you're automatically cool 😎
maybe the wiki is wrong then
Charmed
Some Aphrodite boons inflict Charmed on enemies. Charmed causes those enemies to attack other enemies, and deal no damage to Zagreus while charmed. While Bosses can be charmed, the charm lasts for a significantly shorter duration than on a normal enemy, though this will still disrupt a bosses attack like a stun. Charmed does not count as a Status Curse, despite the fact that it comes from an Olympian god.
hard pier
Switch is apparently behind in patches
ornate summit
Hm. Says so on the ingame description.
hard pier
Perhaps it's that
ornate summit
It is
hard pier
When it's a curse on switch, but isn't on other platforms, it has to be the patches
brisk trail
I blame satan
hard pier
imo
carmine ravine
rancid ember
Welp. One run I nearly beat Elysium, the next run I use up two Death Defiances before reaching Tartarus boss
stone pebble
You know in gungeon how theres secret floors?
I want that in hades
secret bosses
and npcs
rancid ember
Oops I only got 4/25 gems from a trove
carmine ravine
there is a secret boss @stone pebble
stone pebble
ok
rancid ember
I probably approached that less than effectively lol
carmine ravine
u can upgrade the trove to give more gems @rancid ember
stone pebble
its ||hades|| isnt it
carmine ravine
no
stone pebble
||King vermin?||
carmine ravine
its ||charon||
carmine ravine
its mostly rng so yeah
stone pebble
took me several runs to activate it
marble umbra
I remember when I first interacted with the thing and wasn't prepared lol. It was very much of a surprise. Almost insta death
stone pebble
to find it at least
||"WOW THANK YOU CHARON" -Zagreus, probably||
Me looking at Charons shop looking for the activation
austere jacinth
Charon is so awesome.
limpid root
brisk trail
not in this channel
you can in victory boasting and builds and combat, I believe
actually just in victory boasting
and fan works
carmine ravine
u can use link embeds @limpid root
next sphinx
Okay I just got through ||EM3 Asterius and Theseus|| on my first try and I’m proud of myself that I only used one Death Defiance - my face during that fight must have been something 
stone pebble
UAHAHAHAHHAHA!
carmine ravine
for me, EM3 always been an easier theseus
rancid ember
What does EM3 mean?
carmine ravine
Extreme measures
next sphinx
Extreme Measures, I believe it goes up to 4
rancid ember
Oh. I guess that's something I haven't encountered yet!
next sphinx
How are you enjoying the story? I’ve really loved it
midnight sigil
Hi! This is my first rouge-like game ever and It's awesome! I never thought that I will have so much fun with this game! 
Also I love all the characters! This is my favorite videogame so far
rancid ember
I'm enjoying the story a lot myself. All the character interactions are fantastic. I haven't gotten far into the main plot though, haven't finished a run yet
austere jacinth
But I don't like Inferno Bombs. They explode and hurt.
I love the story and characters though ❤️
stone pebble
"THEN DONT CATCH THEM IDIOT" -Hypnos, probably
austere jacinth
Hypnos T.T
next sphinx
I feel the same, I don’t ordinarily grab roguelikes/lites, but it was Supergiant so I knew it was going to be fantastic
They always go above and beyond
austere jacinth
I still wanna set Hypnos up with someone. Zag is the best matchmaker/relationship counsellor.
stone pebble
Wizard of Legend and Gungeon are the ones that got me hooked onto this game
you should try them
they're similar in a way that makes them hella fun
midnight sigil
Hypnos T.T
@austere jacinth Hypnos is always there to make fun of you in the most wholesome way xD
austere jacinth
I'm not a big Roguelike fan, and Hades is my first SGG but... I am so SO glad I gave it a shot.
next sphinx
I love him, he’s such a sweet character and it’s nice to see how he progresses
austere jacinth
He is a sweet character... lemmie hook him up with Alecto xDD
midnight sigil
It's really funny when the game becomes a "Third Wheel Simulator" 
stone pebble
trueee
next sphinx
And I mean, he wasn’t wrong, I did stand in that inferno bomb too long that time
austere jacinth
'Third wheel' is just ||a prelude to polyamory.|| xDD
austere jacinth
For sure.
next sphinx
||Healthy poly makes me so happy ||
stone pebble
When ||Orpheus and Eurydice|| are together and you're just watching them sing, the ultimate third wheel
austere jacinth
||MegZagThan|| ❤️
stone pebble
YO HOW ABOUT DUSA
austere jacinth
||Dusa didn't want that kind of love!||
midnight sigil
Still she deserves all the love and nectar out there 
austere jacinth
If you follow all the romances through to the end you get ||romantic/sexual MegZagThan and bff Dusa.||
I would like to see more of the ||Meg/Than|| side. We get a few lovely little bits but... MORE. xDD
next sphinx
||What a nice twist, I do feel for people who were most attracted to her personality wise, but I love that she was like “we’ll still be friends? I love you as my friend” and Zag was like “Hell yeah, friends are the best!”||
thick crypt
what a room T_T
austere jacinth
I was so happy for her ❤️
stone pebble
Friendzoned to the MAX
thick crypt
https://i.imgur.com/g1c0ZuQ.jpeg What a room... what to pick..
austere jacinth
Hammer~
austere jacinth
Oh and ||I do feel that Than and Meg are more suited to Zag's... erm... tastes than Dusa.|| So it all works out nicely. xDD
stone pebble
:(
thick crypt
https://i.imgur.com/ANorofq.png Oof.. im so unsure what to pick
stone pebble
Lemme date the ||Gorgon head!!||
If you
prophecy
quake cutter
what boons you have
hold up
thick crypt
Aphro special
stone pebble
hm
next sphinx
Oh, which fist aspect are you using?