I mean, I don't mind falsetto singing. I just don't particularly like the direction they went with Orpheus lol
#h1-discussion
pseudo onyx
cosmic stone
I’ve only played two supergiant games. Hades and Bastion
rose nexus
ive only played hades, but i was tempted to try bastion on switch when i saw it
now i want to play all their games
pseudo onyx
Transistor is just a fking delight. I loooooooooved it. It's a bit uh, unspecific though. It's a treat.
quaint hatch
Nice getting out of that
Why is it so hard for some people to just say sry or admit to something
undone frost
bruh drop it. i told you if you have issues you need to resolve dm me. other then that stop talking about it
quaint hatch
There's nothing much to resolve honestly
undone frost
then stop talking
cosmic stone
Change the subject?
undone frost
we tried
covert bay
How many hours do y’all have on the game?
undone frost
im just gonna put him on block
quaint hatch
Prob solved ig
cosmic stone
I have 130 hours.
rose nexus
i havveeee
quaint hatch
Similar ye
undone frost
its clear he needs to have the final word
rose nexus
47 hours
undone frost
im at 55
rose nexus
and ive been playing for 2 weeks now !
undone frost
i got my friend playing it and now we are tryna beat eachothers best times
rose nexus
im obsessed but ive been forcing myself to take breaks
undone frost
im at a 16,36
covert bay
It’s addicting
cosmic stone
It really is addicting
rose nexus
👀 uhhh 16 hours or.....
cosmic stone
There’s so much stuff
undone frost
16 mins
cosmic stone
I’ve played for so long yet there’s still so much more for me to do.
undone frost
like a total run time
rose nexus
I’ve played for so long yet there’s still so much more for me to do.
@cosmic stone sammmeee
covert bay
Sounds awesome
mellow pumice
Hey, uh, is it normal for Dusa to hang out in the lounge, staring at the kitchen, after she flies off?
cosmic stone
I got every max friendship which is nice!
quaint hatch
Damn still 3 left
rose nexus
Hey, uh, is it normal for Dusa to hang out in the lounge, staring at the kitchen, after she flies off?
@mellow pumice shes just vibing
mellow pumice
well, true
austere jacinth
I am only sad I can't be MORE FRIENDSHIP-FUL. xD
cosmic stone
I remember that one Dusa glitch
quaint hatch
I always forget to gift poseidon
cosmic stone
It used to happen all the time
cosmic stone
Yes
cosmic stone
It took me so long to realise nectar is alcohol
I literally thought it was honey
Or some kind of it
mellow pumice
i guess shes really just waiting for that soup to be done
cosmic stone
Real question why did they make Than so hot for?
mellow pumice
i should record this and make a youtube video "Dusa waits for soup for 10 hours"
quaint hatch
Cause death is appealing
cosmic stone
But he so seggsy
mellow pumice
you need some hotlines? /j
quaint hatch
Also this is basically a dating sim disguised as a roguelike
cosmic stone
Yup
mellow pumice
yeah like everyone is hot
cosmic stone
Pretty much spot on
rose nexus
than reminds me of freaking sasuke uchiha except he could kick his butt
cosmic stone
I want a game mode where you can play with friends
quaint hatch
I am the all knowing boulder after all
mellow pumice
just look at how hard this one guy can get.. and these perfect, rotund curves.. 
cosmic stone
rose nexus
bouldy
quaint hatch
T H I C C
rose nexus
@quaint hatch i want the history behind this emote
cosmic stone
I wanna date Boulder
mellow pumice
cosmic stone
Please add dating Bouldy in 1.1
mellow pumice
@rose nexus it's a twitch emote but Zagreus doing it. ResidentSleeper
quaint hatch
Zag in bedroom with ||than and meg||
cosmic stone
Yes
polar jackal
kb+m or controller ganggg yalll making a poll here
cosmic stone
Poly rights
mellow pumice
keyboard
rose nexus
@rose nexus it's a twitch emote but Zagreus doing it. ResidentSleeper
@mellow pumice aaaaAA
mellow pumice
quaint hatch
Well it's not like I have a choice on switch
mellow pumice
poly rights!
cosmic stone
Yes
mellow pumice
brick the switch and plug a keyboard in kappa
mellow pumice
i mean the technical term, dont actually put a brick on it
mellow pumice
i wanted to try controller for a while
rose nexus
i played with kb+m for a lil but controller makes it easier for me xD
mellow pumice
but i know Isaac doesnt work for me at all with a controller so
rose nexus
wats issaac
mellow pumice
i feel like i would be much too inaccurate with a stick rather with a mouse
quaint hatch
Well it's way different from isaac I. Gameplay
rose nexus
i feel like i would be much too inaccurate with a stick rather with a mouse
@mellow pumice it auto locks
quaint hatch
Also the auto aim is insane
But it's playstyle dependent
rose nexus
OH binding
mellow pumice
i dont like aim assist
carmine zodiac
Still some things are weird
mellow pumice
it just misses
covert bay
Been playing kb m my whole life, using a controller feels so weird to me
polar jackal
i tried controller but i cant get used to it
carmine zodiac
Most the grenade launch effects feel way better with mouse
polar jackal
its not twinstick
rose nexus
it just misses
@mellow pumice ;O give it a try some time
cosmic stone
I play on PC
quaint hatch
Aim assist is funny with controller
I can just 180 hit something with bow
cosmic stone
So I ain’t understanding this poor person talk
gusty slate
There are some who use both a controller and mouse, at the same time
polar jackal
you aim and walk with left joystick
rose nexus
Been playing kb m my whole life, using a controller feels so weird to me
@covert bay i grew up with ps2 games, an then when i got a gaming laptop i started using kb+m
i cant ever let go of controller ngl
quaint hatch
Tru
mellow pumice
i had aim assist on automatically when the game started and all, and i was like "why is it flicking away from the enemy im aiming at"
quaint hatch
Too used to controller
mellow pumice
like, i had the shot ready, and then it would forcefully make me miss
mellow pumice
cs?
carmine zodiac
Back in the arcade days every game had a different controller
quaint hatch
like, i had the shot ready, and then it would forcefully make me miss
@mellow pumice depends on bow you use auto aim imo
rose nexus
I have to conciously look for keys on laptop when playing cs
@quaint hatch the only fps i play is overwatch, and thats just bc i love the character design
quaint hatch
Counter strike
rose nexus
but yea, having hand eye coordination is important for kb+m
polar jackal
also i cant find a good setup for controls on controller, idk
mellow pumice
oh ok
rose nexus
well, any game actually
mellow pumice
im used to reading "csgo" so
quaint hatch
Reload on L
polar jackal
it feels more fun and more chill and id like it to be twin stick
quaint hatch
That's a good setup for Controller
polar jackal
rn i cant aim the DIO cast forexample
rose nexus
Reload on L
@quaint hatch ||for excalibur buff on stygius, i set the special to L instead of triangle and it worked so much better for me||
polar jackal
and kiting is such much more cluncky and less presice
mellow pumice
i mean i rebind Reload to a mouse button whenever i go Hestia
So i can click shoot and reload almost simultaenously
carmine zodiac
The dio cast specifically sucks with controller
But basically everything else works fine
polar jackal
but its broken and fun
quaint hatch
Press special, sassy twice
To it access the doom
With 4th sword
polar jackal
before blood price update it carried me so many play throghs
quaint hatch
The dio cast specifically sucks with controller
@carmine zodiac just play dio cast on hera xD
polar jackal
its DIO ***
@carmine zodiac just play dio cast on hera xD
@quaint hatch
mellow pumice
I just realized a weird thing about hidden Shield
quaint hatch
Get it on spotify
unreal axle
i bought the supergiant bundle so i got 4 soundtracks 😛
quaint hatch
Hah I got it for free
mellow pumice
When you check the codex and boon lists while having it equipped, exactly Flood Shot and Trippy Shot don't get shown anymore (since they're replaced by Flares)
quaint hatch
When you check the codex and boon lists while having it equipped, exactly Flood Shot and Trippy Shot don't get shown anymore (since they're replaced by Flares)
@mellow pumice yep cause most casts work different on4th
mellow pumice
But with all the others, both are shown, but the Flare has the aspect as requirement
quaint hatch
Took me a while to get that too xD
mellow pumice
And I know from experience that the normal cast boons are STILL AVAILABLE sometimes with that Aspect
Crush Shot instead of Passion Flare, for example
The problem? Since they have different data and everything, some of them don't drop the Bloodstone anymore.
quaint hatch
Yeah
Pro tip: take flares xD
mellow pumice
Picking up Crush Shot with that Aspect limits your total casts per Chamber to 3.
(unless you pick the other mirror talent)
But it's so weird to me that Poseidon and Dionysus are fixed
quaint hatch
Only worth it with dio on beo imo
pseudo onyx
"Dio on Beo" sounds like a pizza and now I know what I'm getting for dinner
pseudo onyx
I just got the last achievement last night too, the ||epilogue|| and that was cute.
Now I'm just trying to get that very last heart unlock, so I've been running with her trinket even though I really hate using her stuff unless I'm using like, a BUNCH of her stuff.
quaint hatch
Dem?
pseudo onyx
Yea
quaint hatch
Ye you need a dedicated buikd
pseudo onyx
I really like the hidden bow, so like, she's an OK replacement for dio
quaint hatch
Especially early on if you can more or less control what it hits
Epic winters harvest
Imagine
pseudo onyx
I did NOT realize that her legendary works on bosses and it makes a VERY cool particle effect on the last boss
quaint hatch
Pssh I want others to discover that themselves xD
I geeked out so hard
It looks sooo sick
And her voice line
pseudo onyx
IKR
quaint hatch
pseudo onyx
Yeah it was the first time it felt like it paid off to have her in my run tbh lol
Well, actually, not true, I have gotten some healing bonuses when it was sorely needed, and I'm pretty sure I sold it and then was able to get it again. But I played that run in two chunks so I might be wrong
quaint hatch
Yeah she requires insane amounts of commitment
Also most of her stuff feels like throwaway when your desperately digging for arctic blast etc
mellow pumice
yo i just realized
i hit exactly 100 playtime hours (in steam) as i unlocked the last achievement
i already played around 40 hours elsewhere before so its not exactly true, but it looks cool
grand bay
what should i do with keys? i unlocked the whole mirror, theyre just sitting there now
swap them for nectars?
quaint hatch
Either that or cosmetics
rose nexus
wait
what should i do with keys? i unlocked the whole mirror, theyre just sitting there now
@grand bay did you get to the credits of the game ?
gusty slate
special trade 15 keys for a titan blood
grand bay
no im only now starting to get into endgame
kind mason
How many little kittens were bothered to record the aggro sound of the Flame Wheels?
stone gulch
too many
high island
astral laurel
(pets very carefully)
glass shell
💥
astral laurel
😵
rough token
It's okay Nyaanyaa, they had three Mews, you have two, which is completely different
flat vapor
name change to nyaanyaa flamewheel
hardy escarp
I feel like the Charon's well quest is really dumb
Like, I cannot for the life of me get the flamewheel disappearance trinket to spawn, except for the time that I'm one coin short
Possibly the most "Spit in your face" this game has ever done to me
crude sorrel
I feel sometimes that hearts from nectar I gave recently roll back (an escape later I give nectar, hearts the same) anyone else experiencing this?
tepid plover
i refuse to use stubborn to get the touch of styx 
faint flume
I know what I must do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it
tepid plover
same
tulip wing
kindred granite
Guys what, do you recommend to invest on, talos or demeter fist?
I know the secret one is the best, but I need first to put 5 titan blood
quiet gull
Demeter is generally considered better, but you can try em out to see which one you like more
tulip wing
I’ve played talos and I don’t really like it, I’ve heard Demeter is very good though
^
quiet gull
It really enjoys the investment, but Talos aint really good at low levels either
kindred granite
Well to put 5 titan blood I better use talos peraphs?
gusty slate
Talos is fun
kindred granite
Cause with demeter I'll only get 2 strike
gusty slate
A bit awkward forme personally though
kindred granite
But I want secret fist
So I need to invest 5 blood first
And poiseidon is good.. But I can't kill the final boss with it
I get hit all the time trying to get my cast back
robust scaffold
oof
tulip wing
Now see that’s one I struggle at ^
I put on the gauntlets
And hell breaks lose
Well technically you’d be letting lose in hell but eh
kindred granite
Good idea 4th xD
kindred granite
XD
tulip wing
Ah damn that’s unfortunate I’ve been there
elder warren
Just a shout out: I love this game so much. Its giving me so much. I bought it on PC and again on Switch just to have it mobile and to support it more. I've already put in the same play time again on Switch and it still feels fresh (haven't managed a clear so far, the Cerberus part gets me every time). If the player tries to open up for different strategies it's constant fun and it keeps on giving.
tulip wing
Couldn’t agree more^ I wasn’t a fan of rogue likes before but I fell in love with hades
elder warren
also much love for this server, its all just fun
elder warren
My rogue like love before this was the great Dead Cells and I will surely still look into that
rose nexus
i never realized how tall meg is compared to zagreus im 
elder warren
And Meg just doesnt like them
austere jacinth
Both Meg and Than tower over Zag... but... most people do xDD
rose nexus
omg
elder warren
Thanks for the Nectar guys it goes down like oil!
stone gulch
bro this new sword thing hits like a truck
elder warren
what sword thing? spoiler alert?
austere jacinth
Zag is one of the shortest people in the game. Only Dusa's smaller for sure. Skelly might be. Theseus is the same height.
austere jacinth
So he can indulge in his love for tall, severe, domineering folks all he wants.
Theseus is hilarious and kicking his ass brings me immense joy.
brisk trail
Just asking before i do this, if i got a propechy boon this run then purged it the same run would it still count?
brisk trail
ok thanks!
stone gulch
Theseus is hilarious and kicking his ass brings me immense joy.
@austere jacinth this
astral swift
I wont to read Hades' memes but spoilers everywhere 
I got no choice but to fall deeper into the abyss
dreamy briar
I think the subreddit spoils things well, though depending on what you call a spoiler it might not be enough
dreamy briar
I'l probably repost in spoiler chat then, sorry about that
astral swift
That's why you open nothing until you're positive you've seen everything
rose nexus
well it says no spoilers so i assumed 👀
astral swift
:0
tulip wing
You can spoiler tag stuff to my understanding
astral swift
It was spoilered for me
tulip wing
So it’s blurred out
brisk trail
you put || on both sides
astral swift
*spoiler tagged
brisk trail
@rose nexus was it not spoilered for you?
tulip wing
It said spoiler for me
brisk trail
you may have the setting enabled where nothing is spoilered in settings
rose nexus
it was a video
brisk trail
im aware
rose nexus
how do you even upload videos in here...
brisk trail
links
dreamy briar
Embed a video by outside links, put || (and a space for embeds) on both sides to have the embed spoilered
rose nexus
and put it in... story and spoilers..
brisk trail
its spoiler tagged so i dont rlly see the issue
tulip wing
I could see why it would be a problem in new players, what’s done is done though even though it’s unfortunate for you :/, if you didn’t see the spoiler tag I’d definitely have a check at your settings so it doesn’t happen again
rose nexus
yea
brisk trail
^^ if you didnt see the spoiler tag it isnt rlly the person who sent its fault they have no control over ur settings, as a new player you should generally just never click on spoiler tags
rose nexus
i mean if the channel desc. says no spoilers... im gonna assume there arent spoilers here
but i went to my settings
brisk trail
i generally take that as no spoilers out of spoiler tags
tulip wing
Don’t worry though there’s worse that could have been spoiled
tulip wing
Like bouldy transcending the very force of gravity and time to provide a boon to zag
kindred granite
What fist of talos sucks in only grab one guy?
What's the point
I thought it grabbed every one xD
tulip wing
Yeah that’s what I thought at first haha^
brisk trail
it does a lot of damage and can be upgraded off of htt
that
plus its just a fun alternative
tulip wing
^
brisk trail
a lot better than uppercut imo
kindred granite
See, but demeter one looks way more funny
brisk trail
fair
kindred granite
You need to switch between attack and uppercut
brisk trail
which is why theres different branches
wheat blaze
I last played EA just before launch patch, how much content was added with the launch patch? Can tag me with spoilers if you would like
brisk trail
EA?
wheat blaze
early access
brisk trail
ah
kindred granite
Ans it doesn't grab bosses...
brisk trail
it doesnt grab things that are immune to knockback
because it is classified as knockback
if you upgrade it, ive had it do upwards of 300 damage
kindred granite
But it's slow, you have a moment with your technique where you can't do anything
It's not that good with bosses, isn't it?
brisk trail
its fairly good from my experience you just have to time it well
kindred granite
Got it, thanks
brisk trail
its not like you have to hit one then run ive hit several times in a row
also theres upgrades to make it faster
radiant estuary
I'm not sure if I'll get a response from anyone at Supergiant, but if there's no plans to add more content to the game after release, is there any chance we could see some artwork of what some characters who are only mentioned in text look like?
Ones like Hercules, Chiron, Hera, Eris, Talos, etc
undone frost
bruh i saw you typing and i was tryna figure out where i know you from for the life of me
and then it hit me. borderlands lmao
radiant estuary
Small world, sometimes
undone frost
true true
brisk trail
wait did they say there wastn any plans?
undone frost
i think they said they are taking a break for now other then patches
brisk trail
ah alright
radiant estuary
Which fair enough if that's the case
brisk trail
thats fine theres enough content here for a 100% then i need a brea klol
Wouldn't surprise me if they decided to do dlc for hades instead of making a new game considering how popular it is
radiant estuary
Plus the art's amazing enough that I really want to see how they'd depict some of the characters who never show up outside being named
undone frost
herc only by name rip
brisk trail
i would also love to ||be able to meet the gods|| im putting that in spoilers because its something you probably ||expect to happen||
radiant estuary
I wanna see what Talos and Eris look like
undone frost
yea
robust scaffold
i wanna see what ||guan yu|| looks like
radiant estuary
Former because they're the original giant robot and latter because I wanna see how they roll with her
I'd be OK with the hidden aspect characters staying out of sight honestly
undone frost
it took me a long time to realize that hades beard is a mustache
undone frost
im sure theres a beard under his massive mustache
but its just kinda intertwined mustache
flat vapor
it's a goatee in the shape of his mustache
radiant estuary
It honestly took me forever to realize that's supposed to be a sleeping mask
Though it was some sort of hairband
tulip wing
i didnt know until i saw this gif haha
undone frost
haha
if you guys are interested in bite sized summarized myths you should google overly sarcastic productions
astral swift
That scared me for a sec cuz it moved while I was scrolling
prime shuttle
We need to be able to buy the companion stickers IRL. They need to be swag we can get from the Super Giant store.
gusty slate
Lots of swag options
flat vapor
so, never?
astral swift
Tfw you die to get new Hypnos dialogue and he straight up isn't there
delicate pilot
oh god don't remind me
The first three times I cleared a run Hypnos wasn't there
it was to the point where I thought Hypnos just didn't respond to you clearing
rose nexus
hypnos said adios
astral swift
I always wonder where he goes
radiant estuary
To bed
delicate pilot
Hypnos goes to see what dying feels like so he can better give advice
astral swift
To bed
I BOUGHT HIM A BED
quiet gull
Hypnos goes to see what dying feels like so he can better give advice
@delicate pilot But his advice cannot get any better
It is already the best
delicate pilot
that's because he goes off to see what dying feels like
if he stopped then his advice would suffer
wanton goblet
Is there a list of shade "cause-of-deaths"?
tepid plover
if I take off the conch shell, in asphodel, do i lose it as a requirement for huge cacth?
green sonnet
I believe he was a real person, but of course he was elevated to a godlike status as the Saint of War
@tepid plover no clue, i can test
tepid plover
quiet gull
Yeah, you have to have the keepsake on you when you take a boon for it to count as a requirement
tepid plover
ty!
gusty slate
Gotta commit it seems
tepid plover
working on getting huge catch since is the easiest legendary to get, so i can sell it, only missing that achievement
oceans bounty in the as a starting boon?
stone gulch
Is that the one with the +20% fish chance
tepid plover
oceans bounty is the prerequisite
stone gulch
ah
tepid plover
but yeah thats the legendary im trying to get
quiet gull
That cheevo also takes on duo boons, I think?
narrow hemlock
it just doesnt seem to be consistent
quiet gull
I'm pretty sure I got it selling a duo
tepid plover
omg
im uninstalling brb
if it does supergiant pls, change the wording in the achievement
narrow hemlock
like i said, its not consistent. a bunch of people have reported selling duos and not getting it until they specifically sold a legendary. but i 100% got it selling a duo
quiet gull
Maybe some duos are more legendary that others 
radiant estuary
lookin at you Hunting Blades
tepid plover
lightning rod is quite epic
I was minding my business fighting bull, and then suddenly champion used call, and I was like UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I havent touched you?
yeah it is epic
stone gulch
i love when you have a good run going and you absolutely dumptser theseus
you know you are going to win
tepid plover
like theseus literally died and I didnt touch him
brisk trail
Fated authority or persuasion?
quiet gull
Persuasion every time
tepid plover
^
brisk trail
legacy or pride?
quiet gull
There's a reason you only get four boon rerolls and eight room rerolls
brisk trail
fair
tepid plover
mmhm?
brisk trail
do yall think legacy or pride?
fringe osprey
Legacy is more fun for me, but Pride is probably more consistent.
radiant estuary
Legacy/Pride if +purple chance/+Duo and Legendary chance, right
brisk trail
yes
narrow hemlock
genuinely confused myself for a sec there wondering who mentioned hypnos, i do not look at names half the time
brisk trail
legacy = legendary/duo
radiant estuary
Legacy for general use, Pride for getting certain boons better
brisk trail
hm ok
hearty gazelle
Why do some characters not accept nectars at some times (when there is no locked heart)?
tepid plover
cause they are probably talking to someone else
quiet gull
hope you still have some rerolls left in case pool of styx doesnt let you sell the legendary 
quiet gull
GGs
hasty shadow
Support fire is not very good but I like it
Aspect of Zeus shield makes many small arrows and it looks cool
tepid plover
dont know where you got the idea of it not being good
tiny grove
Support fire is ultra solid but not game breaking imo
granite ether
support fire is incredible on fists (not so much in some 4th aspect builds), rail and possibly chiron bow
brisk trail
Support fire doesn't count every arrow in a volley iirc
tepid plover
it has its up and downs, but isnt bad
narrow hemlock
support fire is generally good on fast builds, shoddy on slow builds
tepid plover
^
agile cargo
hey is there a way i can make the game run smoother? i close all the tabs but it still lags a bit
i heard i can do sth with launch options on steam but idk how
tepid plover
lower the resolution
agile cargo
ah k
agile cargo
yeah dw im not stingy when it comes to graphics
tepid plover
like if i posted a pic of it, you wouldnt notice
agile cargo
i played ori 2 on such low resolution i was able to see pixels, it sucked but i made it through
quiet gull
Maybe it's time for a new CPU/GPU, eh?
agile cargo
yeah but i dont wanna bother my parents about it, not independent yet
agile cargo
thamks
tepid plover
but yeah, lowering the resolution does wonders
quiet gull
buncha saplings
astral swift
Did Than just call me a ||deadbeat||?
ruby atlas
I found a bug, idk if there's somewhere I should post it
If you have Killing Freeze and chill Asterius at the end of his solo miniboss fight, he will continue to take damage after the bell rings during the cutscene portion
When I got to Theseus Asterius had like 30% hp missing at the start
narrow hemlock
thats not a bug
if you defeat asterius in his solo encounter he'll begin the arena fight with less health. thats intended
narrow hemlock
wonder if its still possible to completely knock out his hp before he leaves the chamber lol but yeah him having less hp in the boss fight is very much intended and this will happen any time you defeat his solo encounter
robust scaffold
oh
tepid plover
wonder if its still possible to completely knock out his hp before he leaves the chamber lol but yeah him having less hp in the boss fight is very much intended and this will happen any time you defeat his solo encounter
You cant since they become impervious as soon as they reach the threshold
narrow hemlock
squints, i am simply wondering if anyone has managed to do it since... god how long as it been since i saw a clip of someone taking out asterius before he could leave, maybe it was before nighty night
im not saying whether it is or isnt possible, im just wondering. thats all.
tepid plover
I know tatz dont get like that on me
narrow hemlock
i cant read your tone lmao
tepid plover
I'm just a drunkard
narrow hemlock
it was pretty funny when someone posted that, too bad it didnt prevent asterius from showing up at the arena
flat vapor
wasn’t it a combo of killing freeze and winter harvest in that clip
i remember it too, but it was a long while ago
ruby atlas
I never noticed that about him having less health normally. But him taking damage after becoming impervious seems like a bug
flat vapor
he only becomes impervious so the cutscene of him leaving can play
during the cutscene itself, the shield drops
narrow hemlock
yeah its not a bug lol
any kind of dot effect will still hit him while the shield is dropped, thats normal
agile cargo
me: charges up shield and waits for asterius to ram into me so i can block it
asterius: rams into the wall next to me or a random pillar instead
me: same, asterius, same
tepid plover
360 block shield when
quaint hatch
Hammer???
quaint hatch
I could also just put on a sd and stand in lava
That way I'd die quicker
rustic kayak
It's hard for me to assess - are the daily deals involving Darkness generally a good trade?
quaint hatch
Eh
Ig 1 ambrosia for 500 darkness is nifty but it's essentially trading a limited for an unlimited Ressource
robust scaffold
u can reverse trade it later when u need it
quaint hatch
Yeah but it's way slower
robust scaffold
true
sharp fossil
i can see why you would guess that, but no
brisk trail
i keep using all my death defiances in temple of styx;b;
cant clear that w/o using death defiance twice, any tips
the sewer rats keep wrecking me
quaint hatch
Keep at a distance
Most weapons allow that for you more or less
brisk trail
i use the shield or spear mostly
and i usually bull rush or dash into the poison ;v;
it takes me a long time to kill them to
any boon recs?
quaint hatch
Just forming strong builds in general is important ig
Aside from multiple dashes from hermes and Athena dash
Those are generally very good
Also some athena boons restore your dd's
Only restore though
Don't give you additional ones
past geyser
I LOVE THIS GAME
brisk trail
i seem to make it thru elysium w/o using death defiances but
quaint hatch
You've come to the right place xD
brisk trail
temple of styx is just so ;v;
past geyser
I just beat the first area
brisk trail
sewer rats rly b like that
quaint hatch
It's just a matter of getting used to the stuff
brisk trail
asphodel llava hell time @past geyser
lmao yea but everyone seems to clear the first run on like 33 runs
im on my 24th n struggling
past geyser
asphodel llava hell time @past geyser
@brisk trail ?
carmine ravine
and the purple hair girl
@past geyser never seen one
brisk trail
arent u in asphodel now
zenith oxide
😄
still hare
is there a way to set a max framerate?
robust scaffold
i think casts or dmg dash is good for clearing sewer rats
austere jasper
the rng gods have hated me the last few runs 
still hare
oops i asked in the wrong chat! sorry
warped atlas
idk if my playstyle is similar to anyone's, but in others opinion which is better for the shield special between doom or hangover?
quaint hatch
Which shield
warped atlas
aegis
quaint hatch
Zagreus aspect?
warped atlas
honestly i havent messed with any of that yet, im waiting until i have some titans blood saved up
i just meant which status effect pairs best with the shields long ranged throw attack
quaint hatch
Both are fine if you build around it
I'm general doom ig
But I don't play vanilla shield lol
warped atlas
alright, another thing is just im not sur which weapon to use titans blood on because i like them all equally
quaint hatch
Find out which one you like the most xD
You can test aspects by unlocking them, going on a run and giving up
As long as you don't leave to your room
Or just tab out your game and force it closed
warped atlas
right i forgot about that
they just made all of the weapons so powerful and fun to use in their own ways
quaint hatch
quaint hatch
They work everywhere
ancient path
|| Quick question, I have Ares with all his hearts, but don't have his little icon. I though those things went hand in hand? Is it coming or a minor bug? ||
I'm still pretty fresh to Discord in general so wasn't sure 😅
ancient path
Yeah, that shows up in keepsakes. Yup, past the lock and... Fairly certain I gave him ambrosia. He has all hearts filled in at least.
ancient path
F10? Playing on Switch fwiw
quaint hatch
Take the F10 out of your keyboard
Glue it on your controller
Then go back to your keyboard and click #h1-tech-support
But I think he has to mention the 30k or some dudes slain
ancient path
Fair enough. May still be good ol' RNG, but figured I would ask. Unless he has multiple slain convos ( 10k, 20k etc etc ) I know I've done that.
half mica
I'm not sure if I am just completely blind but I can't find any ||fishing spots|| even after looking for them through multiple runs. Am I just not looking enough?
sonic ridge
they spawn randomly, maybe rng is pulling a fast one on you
there'll be a notification sound when it does
half mica
What does that sound sound like?
tepid plover
I ported the payback mix of final expense into crypt of the necrodancer and this is epic
faint flint
like i have curse of pain
if i take this
is there a chance i may lose it
or do I just take pom
high island
There's a chance your Curse of Pain is upgraded to higher rarity.
From common to rare, rare to epic, or epic to heroic.
visual slate
^^^
warped atlas
what is an ||erebus gate|| and should i buy it?
brisk trail
Rarity means the base stat is higher, they also scale higher with poms
Poms upgrade base stats only
what is an ||erebus gate|| and should i buy it?
It's ||a no hit challege room, with better rewards like 200 coins instead of 100||
brisk trail
Require ||5/10/15 from Tartarus to Elysium||
Congrats wraith
Now do it hitless dash onyl
warped atlas
nice job! i just finished my second and i only used one DD
upper carbon
ok so help me calculate this
i had the fists
first aspect
thats 15% dodge
the plume which gave me 19.8
and the hermes boon 20%
are those cumulative ?
brisk trail
Some say it's additive, some say multiplacitive so idk
warped atlas
@brisk trail what do you mean, like i cant take any damge in ||erebus gate|| or i lose the reward?
tepid plover
pretty sure is confirmed additive
brisk trail
Yes you can't take damage
tepid plover
since someone reached 100%
brisk trail
There is a reward still tho
upper carbon
also aphro cast was really helpful
warped atlas
alright that makes sense, thanks both of you
upper carbon
with the long reach too
brisk trail
I can't ||believe SGG has demonized onions ||
reef garnet
Hello! So does anyone know if there's any instances where in ||the Hades fight Hades|| suddenly just gets super fast? I had no heat on just there to farm more darkness then bam I just...got destroyed. I believe I cleared 10+ times in a row streak and no god mode on or hell mode
upper carbon
athena on the special - the special was a charged shot
instead of the uppercut
and ares for the call
oh also the quickest time for me so far lol
@reef garnet might want to spoiler the name of the final boss
reef garnet
fixed!
warped atlas
sorry i don't know why that would happen. should i buy Erebus gate or go for something less pricey for now?
tepid plover
are you playing on at least 5 heat?
warped atlas
me, or chrispy waffle?
tepid plover
you
warped atlas
i am currently at one heat but working my way up each run that ive already gathered the rewards i need
tepid plover
you need at least 5 heat to enter erebus in tartarus, so you can ignore erebus for now
and even then isnt a huge game changer, so you can focus other stuff
i rarely go into erebus myself
warped atlas
oh okay, any idea what the most important diamond purchases from the house contractor are?
robust scaffold
the key is good since u get the fated wtv for rerolling
warped atlas
i already have fishing pole and i dont remember exactly what else
okay
oh yeah i think i have that too
austere kite
Is it a horrible thing I'm doing runs at work?
warped atlas
haha, i guess it depends where you work and if its too distracting
upper carbon
ok one more question about the rail
i've got ricochet fire
and zeus's chain boon
so does the boon fire off each enemy the rail hits or just the last / first one ?
fleet zephyr
today I grinded out the Thorn of Thanatos achievement, barely reaching 30% by the final boss, only for it to not pop because steam was in offline mode
grand root
i wanna ask. how to survive in Asphodel? i have to defeat Megaera all over again after i died in Asphodel with all that lava
cosmic stone
Pretty much level up your mirror to get stronger.
Pretty much carry around things with deflect its useful for the whole game and especially Asphodel in my opinion.
tepid plover
i wanna ask. how to survive in Asphodel? i have to defeat Megaera all over again after i died in Asphodel with all that lava
I don't know how to put this in any other better words but, try to not dash into the lava
dont just spam dash
grand root
so just stay where you are until the enemies go after you?
tepid plover
as long as it keeps you out of the lava and danger
yes
if you just mindlessly spam dash around, you will end up in the lava
cloud apex
That does work, yeah
There are some enemies you have to chase, but your dashes should be still thought out and weighed
floral geyser
I have aphro, dio, demeter on my build. Can I apply all 3 curses at the same time on an enemy? Because I can only see chill and hangover on the boss status bar. I'm worried aphro/dio duo is not proccing...
tepid plover
yes
tepid plover
weak only shows as a pink circle around people, not their healthbar
cloud apex
^
floral geyser
Thanks!
scenic crescent
Does the hammer upgrade that gives you more dmg the more gold you have (for the sword) have a cap?
cloud apex
Nope, you always get as much damage as much gold you hoard
scenic crescent
Idk i spent like 500h playing and was never rly sure
cloud apex
Granted, even in dedicated runs when you never spend gold, it's hard to go over 200% bonus damage, so it may feel underwhelming and/or capped
scenic crescent
Ig
I usually try and go for it with aspect of Arthur c
And end up one shooting everything
tepid plover
isnt it a percent of your gold?
not a percent of your dmg
so i think a faster hitting sword can get more out of it
scenic crescent
Ye true i just like Arthur alot
tepid plover
ah
scenic crescent
Was always a fan of slow greatswords
In other games
I usually pair it with Athena for a free run
tepid plover
try aphro
scenic crescent
I did it's great
But Athena is my fav god
So i can't resist her
That dash too good
scenic crescent
I know but the overall package i just love alot in general
fleet zephyr
Tfw youve been grinding Chaos legendary for so long and then you suddenly get it in three consecutive runs
idle flume
Will there be/will SG consider a physical collector’s edition released for Hades Switch version...?
hasty shadow
demeter execute is so satisfying
scenic crescent
I feel the same about ares
hasty shadow
especially watching her execute theseus and bull
hydra too
boss executes are good
scenic crescent
Yee true
I just enjoy goin for chaos shield+doom and watching the entire room
Die at the same tine
bronze ravine
shield throw + dread flight + thunder flourish is fun
scenic crescent
Sounds fun
fierce lichen
Potentially about to start a good run, Ignius Eden with a starting hammer for piercing and my first boon is Artemis attack buff
scenic crescent
Not bad
Try and get the extra crit chanse on Artemis with support fire
Then it's gonna be bonkers
fierce lichen
Is there any extra crit chance other than the one that gives you like 3-5%?
Also on ignius eden am I right to basically ignore my special in most cases? It seems really difficult to make good use of, specifically on bosses
fierce lichen
Gotcha
carmine ravine
u can detonate ur special at will if u use damaging dashes
fierce lichen
I have piercing so it's not like it'll get caught on the enemy, it's more just that firing it is slow and by the time the projectile reaches where I put it the boss is gone
carmine ravine
its like laying pulse traps
cloud apex
isnt it a percent of your gold?
@tepid plover damn
That puts a whole other light on ||my meme 40 heat arthur clear||, since it was probably the worst way to utilize hoarding slash lol
Just checked the recording and numbers check out
fierce lichen
so chaos just told me to bring the cosmic egg to the final boss :thonk:
carmine ravine
anf the special is now faster after the patch btw, like double the speed of normal special have btw
fierce lichen
Does that do anything specific or is chaos meming me
carmine ravine
its chaos memeing ||dad|| @fierce lichen
fierce lichen
Any idea what a good secondary god for this run would be? Options currently are Demeter and Zeus
I went with Zeus for now since zeus on special makes pulsing lightning I think
carmine ravine
then y not just use doom
fierce lichen
If ares shows sure
actually didn't get offered special so I'll probably use a keepsake to force him to appear next floor
aight so ares showed naturally so, here's how my build is
Ignius Eden w/ Piercing
- Artemis attack
- Ares Special
- Zeus Dash
What would be a good god to bring along for some other benefit?
fierce lichen
Specific question: On Igneus Eden, what does Hermes' increased attack speed do?
Is it faster windup time or faster damage ticking?
woeful lotus
Faster ticks
sudden cloak
Damn, Hades is my new addiction, love this game!
carmine ravine
wait for three bobs and pull
fierce lichen
It's not always three bobs I believe?
upper carbon
nope
cloud apex
Not always, indeed
upper carbon
dude i was so ready to beat down the final boss
turns out its that event
i got to the final place with like 3k gold
emptied the shop too lol
slothful affluence +90% to any gold
roiling affluence +35%
and side hustle for tiny bits more lol
austere jacinth
I'm sure ||Peresphone will be impressed.|| Happened to me too. xD
brittle grove
Is hades supposed to have purple and green lines at places? Not sure if it's a graphical glitch lo
for example at the darkness behind the entrance of hades room
austere jacinth
Yeah, it's a part of the art style.
half mica
Got my first ||legendary boon||
dark scroll
Be sure to check the boonlist from the gods so you know how to 'trigger' em.
verbal wraith
is ruthless reflex any good at all?
brittle grove
i could imagine trying it with gilgamesh
dark scroll
I just find it not worth the effort.
1 dash, have to use before getting hit, only 2 sec.
Having 2 dashes means dodges, moving around faster etc. It doesn't say "more damage" but in the end certainly for most builds the damage will end up being higher.
brittle grove
yeah that's the reason i'd only try it on gilgamesh
dark scroll
Godlike players and very specific builds with specific boons, maybe. I'm not gonna try.
Same with the money and bonus damage one.
Purple > green for most cases.
Of those.
verbal wraith
got it, thanks
proper karma
When aiming for specific boons to finish fates. Is there any specific strats that help a lot? Aside from darkness upgrades.
dark scroll
Well what I just said above, know which ones to pick from the ingame boonlist.
Switch keepsakes.
And make sure to get some extra keys during the run.
And the green mirror one is prob better over the purple.
And ofc try to spend your money wisely, sometimes you get lucky in the last area.
vast dagger
Haelian on YouTube has a good guide to the mirror
finite bobcat
How do I start to spec in Aspect of Chiron? Do I have to put points in Aspect of Zagreus first?
proper karma
Guess I just got massively unlucky. I had the pre-req boons for artemis+demeter, and rerolled to get them as much as possible in mini-bosses...but no luck.
glass shell
@finite bobcat just put tb in it
dark scroll
@proper karma Took me ~20 runs to get legen from dem.
proper karma
Phew. Dem has some...awkward requirement lines.
dark scroll
RNGesus can be a cruel and kind. I've had 4 or 5 zeus boons in 8/9 rooms.
proper karma
Feels like using a keepsake has no impact on the frequency of that gods boons across the entire run. Force a dem and get 0 others without rerolls...
warm wedge
i finally got demeter's legendary but it doesnt seem to affect bosses...
bc i only got it right before fighting|| hades||
it was kinda meh
proper karma
Affecting adds on that fight could be ok at least
glass shell
what does it do? i never really take demeter
warm wedge
it insta kills enemies who are chill affect and 10% health or less
proper karma
making them explode in chill +50 shatter area dmg
warm wedge
it was not bad on the traps and his minions i guess but i didnt like really notice it being that impactful
other than the traps
i just really wished demeter had at least a duo boon that improved her skill set than just a supporting requirement
some of her duo boons are quite niche
proper karma
Demeter is nice because a single boon from her can make the entire fight much easier because of how good chill is...but she has a lot of niche stuff.
warm wedge
like i do really like ice wine, freezing vortex and crystal clarity
proper karma
Her Legendary has some really awkward requirements. Need 3 other Dem boons before you can see it. And some of the boons are fairly specific stuff.
warm wedge
but the rest seem alot more niche... like i would consider these 3 also some what niche bc of the very specific cast requirements
i think i just realised demeter duos are all very cast reliant playstyle facepalm
proper karma
A number of her duo boons are really for the other side of the duo. Like Ice Wine is a thing you get after getting festive fog early in a run I assume. Same with her other duos that are "make their cast better".
glass shell
how does demeter cast work on weapons like hera and beo?
warm wedge
with a few exceptions like cold fusion
i never tried it but i dont think its good
im also not the biggest fan of blizzard shot and cold embrace
cold embrace needs u to be constantly behind enemies to even deal damage, and blizzard shot is quite slow
proper karma
Cold Embrace was actively annoying to use. But I think it added a lot of dmg on final boss.
warm wedge
but maybe i was using it on the wrong weapon
proper karma
It helped that I sorta triangled my cast placement and just went "eh one beam will always hit".
Cold Embrace is also easy to drop directly on an enemy and still get dmg. Regular dem cast when on top of things can aim off into nothing and do no dmg sometimes...but its a super annoying boon to use.
warm wedge
why take crystal beam when u can be your own crystal beam? ||demeter lucifer gun build ||
proper karma
and Id rather it added base dmg instead of a +% cast dmg increase. But that may be quibbling.
glass shell
what's it do
warm wedge
like if u said enemies with bloodstones in them constantly get struck by lightning i can see why but it only strikes lightning in a small aoe on dropped bloodstones
proper karma
oh Ive used that. It wasn't that bad actually. It was particularly useful in ||Satyr tunnels..|| where you can leave the bloodstones laying next to things and hide to wait out dmg.
proper karma
It won't add a lot of dmg, but it regularly adds some.
warm wedge
but since you are using a cast build already, doesnt it defeat the purpose? u need to pick up your stones asap
proper karma
I had Scintillating Feast + that at the same time. So I just spammed cast out and waited for stuff to zap to death.
warm wedge
ohhhhhh, right some duos can stack
proper karma
Err no. Cause the requirements for Lighting Rod are infernal soul and easy options for attacks.
So there's 0 need to be a cast build. Just need some mix of artemis/zues and it becomes accessible.
proper karma
One of Deadly strike, flourish, true shot, hunter's flare, hunter dash, artemis aid. One of, lighting strike, thunder dash, thunder flourish, electric shot, thunder flare, zues aid....so yeah
warm wedge
what about your fave duo?
proper karma
I mean its kinda weak, but you can get it early and do cheeky stuff in trash room fights. And then it adds a little dmg on bosses.
Im still collecting em all so idk.
Sweet necters up there oddly.
warm wedge
ehhhhh i guess, i just expected more XD, it was slightly dissapointing
also how does zues and artemis duo work with stygian soul?? u dont even drop stones anymore
proper karma
can't get it. Need infernal to get it.
warm wedge
right... ok i expected something abit more special lmao
the only duos i havent got is zues and demeter and zues and athena
proper karma
I think Vicious Cycle (ares) is my favorite legendary.
warm wedge
havent found that yet
woeful lotus
the zeus one is pretty great aswell
warm wedge
i like dio and apphrodite legendaries
proper karma
It + Ares greater call= a ton of dmg on a foe that stands still.
proper karma
ok I glanced all the duo boons. I have no favorites. A lot of em are kinda niche.
woeful lotus
well yeah ofc they are but they can still be good niches
proper karma
Yeah, but they're more like "this is a thing I want when Im already doing a thing". Instead of "Oh man I really want to get X". At least right now for me. Im still collecting em all.
warm wedge
trust me some of these duos, once u get to know the game will become staples for your builds
proper karma
sounds right
warm wedge
usually in your build u will have 2-3 gods in your core slots, knowing which gods synergise can help out your run alot
woeful lotus
they generally end up being somewhat the core of builds
warm wedge
^^ each weapon/ playstyle will also differ what duos you would look for too
finite bobcat
@glass shell It wont let me put any TB into Chiron. Only Zagreus
proper karma
atm Im still ruining builds by trying to get stuff for fates. So its interesting hehe.
dark scroll
You'll do plenty of runs so just try to focus them somewhat, earn other rewards alogn the way.
warm wedge
like some people will like to compare cast heavy builds like hera bow and gilgamesh shield, both have similar cast heavy playstyles but hera bow synergises better with ice wine duo while gilgamesh shield works better with scintillating feast duo
mainly bc its really hard to apply multiple stacks of chill with a shield
dark scroll
You sure you got enough?
It's nothing more then scrolling down and to the unlock/upgrade icon. Doubt that that is bugged somehow.
woven cipher
is there any reasonable way to farm gems...? I'm swimming in blood and ambrosia but I need gems :/
brisk trail
I mean you can also do the hax, but no other legit way yeah
brisk trail
Maybe those one time offers from the broker. Like 2 keys for 20 gems
half mica
Advice on ||fishing||? I keep failing
brisk trail
Oh well :/
Tho those should help you, and if you pick the darker thirst weapon
warm wedge
@half mica close your eyes, only click when the sound happens
glass shell
@half mica ||the bobber|| has a different animation when ||fish bite||
half mica
What sound is it?
warm wedge
you'll know, its a spring like sound
half mica
Ok
warm wedge
fishing in this game is quite similar to fishing in animal crossing XD
the faster you react, the higher the chance of getting better fish
so higher rewards
bronze ravine
phew, got the death dealer achievement
robust scaffold
nice
half mica
thanks just got my first fish due to the sound @warm wedge
bronze ravine
had to waste 1 dd tho so my run is prolly screwed
robust scaffold
rip
warm wedge
@half mica no prob enjoy your fish XD
bronze ravine
also I love how chatty the chaos shield is
warm wedge
i mean lets be honest, chaos can see through that shield, its an eye
its an extension of himself
red coral
They certainly have no limits to their domain!
glass shell
so that's the voice i've been hearing when playing with their aspect
red coral
Yup! It’s Chaos themself
glass shell
i love that shield even more now
bronze ravine
cleared a run for the 2nd time with the shield
zeus goes nicely with shield throws
neon mist
While I love how the game still gets updated, which to be fair is nothing short of amazing and it shows the love and care the developers have for this game, do you guys think that Hades will eventually get more substantial additions in the future, perhaps a new floor or maybe a new weapon? I am just curious about the likelihood of that happening, that is all.
glass shell
check #hades-faq
neon mist
oh cheers
gusty slate
They haven't confirmed or denied
neon mist
That's good
I am enjoying Hades so much, it's unreal
Definetly one of my favourite games from recent years.
dark scroll
They haven't done any DLC for any game yet but Hades is def a step above the others in terms of sales. So the chance is higher but who knows.
neon mist
Like I know that all their games before they were high quality and such
I am not putting down Bastion, Pyre and Transistor
but Hades man
It just oozes love, care and near damn perfection when it comes to indie games. XD
dark scroll
I thought it was just ok, a little meh maybe a bit above aver.... oh wait a moment gotta do run 120 first.
tired ember
Hermes is going to have a call? Why he is the only god to not have a call?
tiny grove
He's not one of the main 8 gods, his boons don't even follow the main rules
tired ember
Aw :( I wish he had a call. He is my favorite god in this game... Maybe something like "run to recover your life", idk
tiny grove
I know what you're saying. Tbh I'd love it if they added ultra rare duoboons for him that'd be cool
crisp zodiac
He keeps his effects on you subtle because no one's supposed to know that he's helping you ||until post-true epilogue||.
glass shell
sneaky man, that hermes
iron ether
Fought ||Tiny Vermin|| for the first time
tiny grove
Oh no
robust sundial
@iron ether it's hilarious, ain't it ? 
iron ether
dark scroll
"Wow, Hades just picked up the Grand Prize in the Indie Live Expo Awards!!"
iron ether
coolio
glass shell
if i go in a trial room with let's say athena and zeus, can i get their duo later on?
dark scroll
Now Trump can play Hades while he sits at home.
Between the garbage tweets. ;p
What you mean later on? To get duo boons you need to meet the prereq's and then encounter either of em.
And then you need the mirror upgrade, the reroll upgrade and just plain RNG.
to improve chances.