h1-discussion

[wise stratus]

I'm a simple man. I pick a chaos boon where I can't attack. I attack.

[heavy breach]

I'm a simple man. I see lava, I stand in it

[short gust]

@wise stratus I walked away from a run for a few hours after I picked that boon.

Then came back and promptly suicided.

[austere jacinth]

I too wade into lava.

[wise stratus]

I keep doing it 😄

need to unbind my buttons

[short gust]

Lmao

I was using the shield so I ate the 4 HP to block some stuff

But yeah, I came back after a long break and started dash attacking and suddenly was dead

"..What?"

Even better than that was the time I killed myself out of combat trying to break some coin vases.

Thanks Chaos.

[wise stratus]

Woah

Fortunately self damage doesn't matter in Erebus

[brisk trail]

does duos stack?

or overwrite

[wise stratus]

You can have multiple yeah

[short gust]

I'm sure they become more common at some point or another, but I've never even had more than one show up in a run.

[wise stratus]

Some rule out others though obviously

[brisk trail]

like lets say ||flood shot|| has two duos, does that work?

[wise stratus]

I think it would

[brisk trail]

ok

[wise stratus]

not sure though

they could be mutually exclusive

[brisk trail]

why would it come up as an option then, has someone thought of patching this?

[quiet gull]

If two duos are mutually exclusive, but you have the prerequisites for both, why WOULDNT they both show up at the same time?

The bigger issue is that some boons are mutually exclusive, but the game doesnt tell you which ones. At least we got the wiki for that

[burnt sapphire]

Some of them you can kind of figure out just by looking at them though

I know there is one boon that has 2 duos that are not mutually exclusive

[brisk trail]

im never gonna get used to the fact you cant swear

Welp, lets find out

[burnt sapphire]

In case you're wondering, ||dionysus cast|| has 2 duos, ||zeus and demeter||

[austere jacinth]

I swear a lot irl. I haven't found it too hard to abstain online though xDD

[brisk trail]

ooo, I completely understand it now

i swear alot more online than i do irl

this is hell for me

pun intended

[wise stratus]

yeah grim is right about that one

that combo works and is amazing

[burnt sapphire]

i've seen speedruns where it was used and i so want to try it out myself

[quiet gull]

What speedrun uses Dio cast?? Shield 4th aspect?

[burnt sapphire]

i don't think it was like a speedrun speedrun but yeah shield 4th aspect was used

[quiet gull]

Just because someone is playing fast dont make it a speedrun, bruh

[wise stratus]

shield 4th aspect with that is amazing

I saw it earlier today 🙂

[austere jacinth]

I need to git gud with that.

[wise stratus]

just did a great merciful end build and the game is like "have another"

[high copper]

I’m still getting a hang of shield’s hidden aspect

[wise stratus]

yeah it's not good unless you utilise its ability well 😄

[austere jacinth]

My current build is 'It looked good at the time'.

This is... all my builds, actually.

[burnt sapphire]

tbh i don't really have strategy to builds

[wise stratus]

just pick what you like

I get ares and athena, I go for merciful end 😄

[sonic ridge]

"planning"? What's that

[silver berry]

I just got a boon with only replace options, really doesn't feel great when I don't want to switch any

[wise stratus]

yeah, I have more luck not planning 🙂

my farming build got me killed a lot

[sonic ridge]

at best I check for duo eligibility

[wise stratus]

I play random build and get lots of farm boons anyway 😄

[austere jacinth]

It took me forever to get the 'wash a legendary boon achievement' because my luck is really, really... interesting.

[wise stratus]

I washed the guaranteed one 😄

[stiff trellis]

There's been a lot of videos singing the praises of Hades's design and I'm really glad to have been on this journey since the early access release

[wise stratus]

someone convince me not to get purple side hustle 🙂

[stiff trellis]

no.

I refuse to be a good influence

Get da muney

[wise stratus]

side hustle is my favourite boon

[burnt sapphire]

i wonder how hard it would be to mod in a custom new olympian to give new boons (probably very very hard but still)

[wise stratus]

but it's up against swift strike

swift strike would be amazing with this build

[stiff trellis]

what's the build?

Also which rarity of swift strike?

[wise stratus]

also purple

nemesis sword 🙂

[stiff trellis]

oh

oh.

[austere jacinth]

Hermes and Charon would love for you to take Side Hustle.

[stiff trellis]

yeah take swift strike damn

[wise stratus]

I can buy blood though 😄

or whatever I might need

although I can probably buy it regardless

700 gold in asphodel somehow

side hustle is the right pick here but I don't want it every run 😄

[stiff trellis]

smack fast, smack good

[wise stratus]

I love it on secret sword

nemesis is already good without it

[stiff trellis]

yeah

[wise stratus]

omg

[stiff trellis]

I should try and do a boonless run again

[wise stratus]

I just got purple eclipse

[stiff trellis]

oof

[wise stratus]

I'm gonna be rich

[stiff trellis]

cash money

[wise stratus]

oh my god

this run is a joke

purple purple duo

purple duo duo

[stiff trellis]

I.

nice

[burnt sapphire]

imagine naturally appearing reds

that would probably make them feel less rare than they are right now

[stiff trellis]

it would, yeah

and honestly, I like the fact that they're rare

[wise stratus]

^

[stiff trellis]

because purples are good in their own right

[wise stratus]

they're a reward for swapping

and reward for rare crop

[stiff trellis]

yeah

they're rewarding

[wise stratus]

imagine no reds

swapping and rare crop 😦

[stiff trellis]

Whereas if they naturally appeared

suddenly every boon that doesn't have a red is disappointing

[brisk trail]

oh we talking favourite boons?

[wise stratus]

ambrosia delight would be worse 😄

[stiff trellis]

favourite boons?

[brisk trail]

idk somebody said favourite boon is side hustle

so im like oh favourite boons

[wise stratus]

side hustle keeps showing up

I always take it

[stiff trellis]

I really like the extra dashes tbh

[wise stratus]

I didn't this time

[brisk trail]

yeah side hustle is gone

[burnt sapphire]

uhhh my favourite is ||poseidon dionysus duo because like every boon is now epic||

[brisk trail]

i hate the extra dashes

[wise stratus]

EA is amazing too

[brisk trail]

i always go with greater reflex because its muscle memory by now

[wise stratus]

I love EA

[brisk trail]

but like

[wise stratus]

even in region 3 😄

[brisk trail]

whenever i have extra dashes i just forget to use them

[stiff trellis]

I tend to go with hypermobile dash strike builds

I find them fun especially when paired with athena attack

Just

Don't ask me about EM3.....

[burnt sapphire]

I once got both EA and ||poseidon aphrodite duo for poms|| both in zone 1 sooooo

[wise stratus]

both in zone 1?

[burnt sapphire]

yes

[wise stratus]

I want that

[brisk trail]

divine dash is probably my favourite interms of being good

[wise stratus]

divine dash is op

[burnt sapphire]

divine dash 😍

[wise stratus]

🙂

[brisk trail]

yeah

[stiff trellis]

ath dash right?

[brisk trail]

yeah

deflecting dash

[stiff trellis]

it's so good

[burnt sapphire]

it's like

[wise stratus]

not only is it best dash

it enables merciful end

[burnt sapphire]

idk if i've used it that much but i think it sounds pretty good

[stiff trellis]

I've found that I really like demeter's boons

[wise stratus]

demeter is underrated

[cloud adder]

One question should I start from zero if I don't like the choices I've made until this point?

[stiff trellis]

They are really fun with a fair amount of the weapons

[astral swift]

Explosive Fire or Delta Chamber

?

[wise stratus]

depends on your build

[stiff trellis]

I especially love demeter on the spear

[wise stratus]

@astral swift

[stiff trellis]

Explosive fire will always help

[astral swift]

My build is whatever shows up at this point ;-;

[stiff trellis]

Delta chamber has a downside

[brisk trail]

pretty much everything about except for the crystal bloodstone is good with demeter

[astral swift]

I do have ares' keepsake though

[brisk trail]

i like demeters boons

and i dont like demeter

as a character

[stiff trellis]

Oh, absolutely

[brisk trail]

she kinda comes as thinking shes better than everyone

[wise stratus]

Zagreus delta chamber 😉

[stiff trellis]

But the number of olympian gods that are actually good people is just

really low

[brisk trail]

yeah

[astral swift]

Explosive fire has the bonus of ||being a prophecy||

[burnt sapphire]

i mean the olympian gods always think that they're better than each other so

[brisk trail]

dio will always be my favourite

hes just cool

[austere jacinth]

I like her. It's not that she thinks she is better, it's that she thinks she's suffered so much she now knows better.

[brisk trail]

he just wants to party

[stiff trellis]

Artemis just wants to vibe

[wise stratus]

@astral swift go for it then

[brisk trail]

dighdfgd

[astral swift]

Ty ty

[wise stratus]

@astral swift prophecy always

[brisk trail]

LET ME SWEAR

[stiff trellis]

So does dio but for a different reason

And athena is too big brain to be a meanie

[brisk trail]

dio is hot as hell and just wants to party

[wise stratus]

I love Poseidon

[brisk trail]

and i respect the fricc out of that

[stiff trellis]

And hermes is literally just the mailman

[brisk trail]

yeah

[austere jacinth]

||Demeter's mostly grieving, and she does eventually accepts things she knows to be untrue as a way to begin to mend her own heart.||

[stiff trellis]

aphrodite is,,,,,,,,,,,, aphrodite

[wise stratus]

name someone else with 2 legendaries 🙂

[austere jacinth]

Hermes is A LOT MORE THAN THE MAILMAN.

[burnt sapphire]

Hermes knows where your location is.

[brisk trail]

whats the hammer thing for spear that removes the spin but makes you attack faster than hermes can run

[stiff trellis]

flurry stabs?

[wise stratus]

flurry stab

[brisk trail]

yeah

i got that + 30% faster attack speed with hermes

[austere jacinth]

I hate it when he gets squished into the 'Divine Messenger' role when he's so much more and SGG do a great job of showing more sides to him ❤️

[brisk trail]

and i got zues a ton of times and im pretty sure i was doing like

[stiff trellis]

that one's really fun with demeter attack and aphro special

[brisk trail]

not even kidding

somewhere around 700dps with all stones in

it was crazy

[burnt sapphire]

i love how hermes ||reacts to certain things that you do like if you lose your win streak he has dialogue and if you turn on the ingame timer he has dialogue||

[stiff trellis]

really makes the two debuff attack special work

oh nice

[brisk trail]

i probably could have gotten a lament plume increase on hades

[wise stratus]

there's lots of secret dialogue

[stiff trellis]

Didn't know that second part

I still need to finish his wager

[wise stratus]

there was a good example I had...

[brisk trail]

yeah the amount of chit chat in this game as really impressed me

[stiff trellis]

I've never had the secret boss outside of tartarus tho ;-;

not for like

15 runs at least

[austere jacinth]

Hermes's ||involvement with Charon is great for both characters. From the Hermes side it emphasises his role as a trickster, helper and psychopomp, as well as his dominion over trade.||

[burnt sapphire]

oh yeah i also completely discovered on accident that (theseus spoiler) ||if you bring the yarn of ariadne into theseus fight he actually comments on it||

[stiff trellis]

Yeah!

[wise stratus]

you gotta go to the secret area constantly

[austere jacinth]

Yep!

[brisk trail]

also

never

[wise stratus]

Ahhh, that was it Grim

That is probably the only one I DON'T have

[brisk trail]

ever do ||charons boss battle|| if you are in tartarus

[wise stratus]

which is why it was a good example 😄

why?

[stiff trellis]

I remember finding a bug when I charmed EM3 Theseus and he just started driving into a pillar

boi needs driving lessons

to be fair

[wise stratus]

I beat it on ||Heat 32|| first try 😉

[brisk trail]

health doesnt scale and it takes me like several minutes to get him and i usually lose all my dd

[stiff trellis]

If I do it in tartarus I'm not losing that much of a good run

[brisk trail]

its so

so slow to kill him

[wise stratus]

doesn't it scale?

[stiff trellis]

It doesn't

[brisk trail]

no

[wise stratus]

woah

[stiff trellis]

You get hit for 50

[wise stratus]

I'm a gamer god then

[stiff trellis]

it hurts

[wise stratus]

oh, just dodge those

[stiff trellis]

Consider the following

I'm a chimp

[wise stratus]

until he omae wa mou shindeirus you

and hits you anyway

[stiff trellis]

I'm also impatient so

[wise stratus]

backhanded technique

[stiff trellis]

Taking time out of hitting things is not in my todo list

[wise stratus]

arms behind back 🙂

damn I've been talking so much I forgot how my build worked 😄

[stiff trellis]

pfff

I just thought about the fact that

[burnt sapphire]

oh yeah also not accounting for story or anything but if a new olympian god were to be added which one would you like the most

[wise stratus]

I know little about greek mythology

[brisk trail]

same

lemme just

[stiff trellis]

Normal rats are capable of achieving more than the wretches of the underworld

Hm

[wise stratus]

what's that dude

[brisk trail]

look through the greek olympian gods for a second

[astral osprey]

Hestia!

[wise stratus]

perseus?

guy who killed dusa

[brisk trail]

hestia is the uhhh

[astral osprey]

He isn't a god is he?

[brisk trail]

marriage gal or something

right

[stiff trellis]

Hephaestus would be interesting to have, perhaps with fire related boons

[wise stratus]

no he isn't

[astral osprey]

Nah

[stiff trellis]

Which could also give more depth to the daedalus hammers as well

being a forge god

[burnt sapphire]

hestia is fire right

[astral osprey]

Hestia is the goddess of the stove

[stiff trellis]

yknow

cookin

[astral osprey]

Ye

[austere jacinth]

Apollo. Apollo would have the most interesting dynamics with the characters we have imo.

[burnt sapphire]

hephaestus is hammer stuff

[astral osprey]

She was the one that used the machine gun weapon thingy

[wise stratus]

||cursed slash, world split or flurry slash?||

[stiff trellis]

hera just appears and removes zeus boons

[burnt sapphire]

lmao

[astral osprey]

I'd love to see Cronos as well

[brisk trail]

oh wait no hera is the marriage gal

[astral osprey]

Some time abilities would be sick

[high copper]

Apollo is Artemis’ twin as well

[wise stratus]

Apollo sounds cool

[high copper]

Cronus ≠ Chronus

[wise stratus]

He is the God of music right?

[astral osprey]

Music, sun, art, bow

[stiff trellis]

music, the sun, also archery

[high copper]

though Cronus the titan is Zag’s great grandad

[astral osprey]

Lots of stuffs

[brisk trail]

screw apollo

[high copper]

Apollo, god of a thousand things

[austere jacinth]

Apollo is also poetry and prophecy

[brisk trail]

hes like

[austere jacinth]

He's great.

[burnt sapphire]

apollo is just everything

[stiff trellis]

He's an idiot and I both hate and love him

[brisk trail]

a huge [insert offensive language here] in a webcomic thing that i read

he sucks

[austere jacinth]

Yeah, but that's a bad webcomic

[burnt sapphire]

i don't read that many webcomics so idk

[high copper]

more than anything, I just want to see art of those gods in the game’s style

[stiff trellis]

There are a number of gods that would be interesting

[burnt sapphire]

yeah the only problem is is that i cannot draw in that style

[austere jacinth]

Where they make Apollo bad by making him do what Hades did in order to make Hades a lonely, love interest.

[stiff trellis]

I don't remember if Janus is greek or Roman but he could be interesting

Not for boons per se

[austere jacinth]

I think Janus is Roman...

[burnt sapphire]

tyche shows up to manipulate rng

[stiff trellis]

But with like a challenge

[astral osprey]

ye roman

[stiff trellis]

Ah ok

[austere jacinth]

But if we're going for non-Olympian, Moros and Hecate please.

[astral osprey]

But he's a cutie

[stiff trellis]

Hecate would be pretty cool

[austere jacinth]

Especially Moros for the Charon, Than, Hypnos stuff

[brisk trail]

ok looked it up cuz i couldnt remember

webcomic is called lore olympus

and i havent read it in like a month

[stiff trellis]

Just read Percy Jackson like the rest of the greek mythology nerds

[brisk trail]

jokes on you im not a greek mythology nerd

[burnt sapphire]

i just read the heroes of olympus and that's it

[stiff trellis]

It actually does a great job of representing the greek gods

[austere jacinth]

Yep, I hate Lore Olympus. It doesn't understand mythology

It just wants to make Twilight

[tired merlin]

heroes of a olympus is kinda rough compared to pjo

[stiff trellis]

Yeah

[brisk trail]

unless being a greek mythology nerd means being super gay towards a virtual artistic rendition of dionysus

in which case im definitely a greek mythology nerd

[stiff trellis]

I.

[high copper]

I liked the representations in Hades tbh. all the fun stuff without the uhhhhhhh problematic things

[stiff trellis]

Hm.

[tired merlin]

I'd say yes to that

[austere jacinth]

Well, Dio did invent... some interesting things xDD

[stiff trellis]

Honestly the gods in Hades are spot on

Both in character and in design

[astral osprey]

I feel like Hades did a pretty good job of incorperating the most important gods me thinks

[austere jacinth]

Hades had some real clever references to how certain bits of mythology evolved, like Zagreus-Dionysus xDD

[astral osprey]

I'm only missing Hestia and maybe Hera

[stiff trellis]

I love how they brought that up

[high copper]

GOSH I loved that Hymn of Zagreus

[burnt sapphire]

yeah that part was cool even if i didn't understand it

[tired merlin]

hymn of zagreus is so good

[burnt sapphire]

i understand now but

[high copper]

when the game hit 1.0 release I looked up Zagreus out of curiosity

then when I first heard that song I lost it

[brisk trail]

honestly on the topic of dio being hot

everyone is hot

[high copper]

so many hot

[tired merlin]

yes

[astral osprey]

And that's a fact

[stiff trellis]

I looked it up about halfway through the early access

[high copper]

Athena is. yes

[brisk trail]

there is not a single character in this game who isnt incredibly hot

[austere jacinth]

Apollo is the big omission for me. A bi-icon even before people used the term bi. I'd love to see what SGG would do with him. xD

[stiff trellis]

Even charon

[astral osprey]

Skelly?

[high copper]

Persephone is adorable and I love her

[austere jacinth]

Charon is a KING

[brisk trail]

charon is cute

[stiff trellis]

Skelly is a sex fiend wym

[high copper]

Nyx is GORgeous

[tired merlin]

charon is the best

[astral osprey]

Nyx do be best mom

[high copper]

lovf Nyx

[astral osprey]

"Do not despair child"

[austere jacinth]

I did like that Hades ||didn't make Hades out to be some sweet dude Persephone just eloped with, and that there were more politics at play.||

[brisk trail]

even red shade fan is making me feel things 😳

[high copper]

Artemis is super cute too

[austere jacinth]

Nyx is stunning. One of my fave designs, I think.

[stiff trellis]

Red shade fan makin me act up

[astral osprey]

Ohhhhhh!

[high copper]

likewise. Nyx’s eyes are so powerful

[astral osprey]

I know who I'm missing!

My boy Pan!

[stiff trellis]

Oh

[tired merlin]

I like how ||peresephone set up the pomegranate seed ruse||

[burnt sapphire]

the character design of basically everyone is just spot on and amazing

[stiff trellis]

Oh boy would he add an interesting twist to styx

[astral osprey]

Pan would also bring a lot of interesting stuff to the temple of styx

[tired merlin]

I'm not sur if pan would hangout at the entrance to the underworld

[stiff trellis]

well

[astral osprey]

Ye but I mean there are his satyr bois

[stiff trellis]

yeah

[brisk trail]

by the way

[burnt sapphire]

maybe he'd just show up occasionally

[astral osprey]

He could have a fear/panic based boon

[stiff trellis]

And pan doesn't really associate with the olympian gods

[brisk trail]

i hate the fact i cant swear

[astral osprey]

F

[stiff trellis]

It's not that hard once you stop trying

[brisk trail]

i swear too much for this to be alright with me

[astral osprey]

Need a hug?

[brisk trail]

i have to try to not swear

[tired merlin]

you can use substitue swear words

[stiff trellis]

Wait

[brisk trail]

i do not need a hug i need to be able to sWEAR

[stiff trellis]

I'm good at the england

[burnt sapphire]

i would totally make all of this stuff with mods if i could but i also don't have any voice acting or art skills

[brisk trail]

ooh you know whos also incredibly hot???????

my boy than

[astral osprey]

True

[tired merlin]

he has the 90s high arch bangs though

[astral osprey]

idk it's cute

[tired merlin]

though I guess his personality makes up for it

[brisk trail]

yeah its cute

[wise geyser]

Does anyone else think the weapons overlap too much?

[burnt sapphire]

wdym overlap?

[wise geyser]

Like

[astral osprey]

I feel like they are pretty unique

[brisk trail]

WAIT YOU CAN ||ROMANCE|| THANATOS WHAT

[wise geyser]

oops

[burnt sapphire]

yes you can

[brisk trail]

ok i realised that looks bad

[astral osprey]

ye

[austere jacinth]

Of course you can.

[brisk trail]

holy jesus

this be a blessed day

[wise geyser]

Ok, for example, spear feels like better sword, fists feel like worse sword

[astral osprey]

Half of the greek pantheon is gay

[burnt sapphire]

well

[austere jacinth]

You can ||romance Than, and Meg at once.||

[sullen holly]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[astral osprey]

Fists are pretty strong no?

[austere jacinth]

And they're mostly bi.

[astral osprey]

True

[sullen holly]

Hades keeps kicking my ass

[austere jacinth]

Artemis is implied to be gay or ace, but most of them are bi.

[astral osprey]

Artemis doesn't have any romantic interests

[sullen holly]

In the Myths Athena and Artimes chose not to marry forever

[tired merlin]

athena is also ace

[astral osprey]

Goddess of virginity and all that

[gusty slate]

Doesn't stop Zeus shipping

[astral osprey]

Fair

[tired merlin]

that's just pushy older relatives being nosy

[austere jacinth]

Athena is a crazy misogynist in myths who wants nothing at all to do with womanly things, Artemis frolics with her own nymph friends.

[brisk trail]

zeus is literally daddy and i will continue to abuse that fact

[austere jacinth]

Also virginity meant 'unmarried and childless' rather than what it means today.

[sullen holly]

I know all my greek mythology from Percy jackson books lol

[tired merlin]

I remembering reading that even though athena had the body of woman she was basically viewed as a man

[burnt sapphire]

zeus really was like "hmm i will now think of athena" huh

[brisk trail]

also does giving bouldy nectar actually do anything?

[boreal fog]

Do I have to do the heat levels in growing ordering to like unlock skelly's stuff or can I just jump right to heat 32 and keep trying till I get it?

[austere jacinth]

Athena is Zeus's favourite, and we all know what mythological Zeus was like.

[gusty slate]

You can jump

[burnt sapphire]

also does giving bouldy nectar actually do anything?
@brisk trail bouldy will believe in you

[astral osprey]

I really like the dynamic between Athena and Ares

[austere jacinth]

Ares was his least favourite. Zeus did not care for Ares at all. xDD

[sullen holly]

Do I have to have all of the Lives unlocked to be able to beet Hades?

[astral osprey]

Yesu!

[sullen holly]

Because I can do the whole game without dying apart from Hades

[tired merlin]

I'd say save you nectar for the relationships you want to deepen and later on give bouldy the nectar

[astral osprey]

That just means you're very close!

[burnt sapphire]

i literally just give nectar to whoever i can

[high copper]

I loved that you can romance those characters at the same time and that actually comment on it

[sullen holly]

Hades is Adapt Overcome survive basically

[tired merlin]

I'm still waiting for ||the double bedroom scene||

[austere jacinth]

Ares is a god of passion. His variant of war was the bloodlust-driven kind and so when he takes to the battlefield, or to murder, he usually has a personal motive. Athena is strategy and basically being better than you~

[sullen holly]

The game makes me cry when I get killed by Hades but I keep on playing because I like it lol

[high copper]

“uh, ||Than||, you know that me and ||Meg|| are already a thing, right”
“yeah, she’s the one who put me up to this, dork”

[tired merlin]

they havea good working relationship

[austere jacinth]

Me too, Gad. ||I need to trigger Than's individual heart-dialogue, the post-getting together stuff, first though||

[astral osprey]

Ares is a god of passion. His variant of war was the bloodlust-driven kind and so when he takes to the battlefield, or to murder, he usually has a personal motive. Athena is strategy and basically being better than you~
Ye that's why I love them

[high copper]

we stan a bi polyamorous king

[sullen holly]

How do I get the golden keepsakes from Aphroditey because I have all of the hearts unlocked

[austere jacinth]

Ein, that doesn't cut it down. Lotsa bi poly kings in Hades xDD

[sullen holly]

I can't figure out how to get Aphroditeies golden keepsake

[shy tartan]

dont know what that is, sorry

[glad cairn]

What do I do when I can't get titan blood anymore

[sullen holly]

They are called keepsakes? The power ups which the gods give you?

[burnt sapphire]

also i think it might be neat if asclepius offered healing stuff

[sullen holly]

Asclepius is the god of medicine so it makes sense

[austere jacinth]

Apollo was also a god of healing.

[tired merlin]

it would be cool is haephestus could show up every now and then

[austere jacinth]

Because Apollo gets to be god of ten-thousand things.

[tired merlin]

asclepius was apollo's son

[sullen holly]

yep

[tired merlin]

one of them at least

almost a bad as his dad in that respect

[sullen holly]

It be cool to see Helios because Helios was the old sun god

[austere jacinth]

Yeah, but I'd rather have the, em, source. I want to see Art-Apollo duo convos T.T xDD

[burnt sapphire]

you will now have the power of the sun

i wonder if it's possible to rework existing boons with mods

[sullen holly]

Like Helios could be bitter about Apollo being the new sun god

[burnt sapphire]

if so then i would so change the demeter cast to be actually good

[austere jacinth]

I'd want the dialogue as much as the boons. Also, someone did a LOVELY version of Apollo and Hyacinth in SGG-style. I'll see if I can find it.

The Demeter cast is INSANE.

[burnt sapphire]

i like the demeter cast but it's just sooooo slow

[tired merlin]

I'd like to hear hermes' commentary on some of the things he's pulled on apollo

[high copper]

I linked Apollo in #fan-works actually

[austere jacinth]

You can melt bosses with it.

[high copper]

demeter cast with infernal soul can get pretty wacky

[brisk trail]

Especially with Artemis duo

[burnt sapphire]

i tried infernal soul 5 casts (with extended mirror mod) and bow 3 and it was really good but wow was it slow

[austere jacinth]

I've made that the centre of my builds a couple of times. xDD The Demeter beam.

[burnt sapphire]

artemis duo is really nice

[brisk trail]

Or the Aphrodite duo is nice too, but you gotta move around to make sure the enemies are between you and the crystals

[burnt sapphire]

although if i were to mod in a new olympian god i'd need to make it like really really unique

and not to mention working out how all the duos would work

and all the story stuff that comes along with it

[austere jacinth]

Yeah, a guy like Apollo would surely have a lot to say about other gods. It'd be nice to see Artemis have a positive relationship with another Olympian too...

[brisk trail]

Or Hecate, with boons related to necromancy

[austere jacinth]

Hecate is a Chthonic so I think she'd be more likely to haunt the House of Hades itself than lend boons to Zag.

The only Chthonic god (entity) who gives boons is Chaos.

[wise stratus]

help

I got athena third time in a row

[copper plume]

whats the average attempts before getting to meg?

[brisk trail]

Ah yes, good point.

[west salmon]

can i just say i loves Hades trying too beat Heath lvl 16 any advice?

[stiff trellis]

Depends on the player

[wise stratus]

@copper plume don't worry about other people, we're all different, just try to beat your own record 🙂

[copper plume]

oki

[wise stratus]

also there's a lot of luck

I beat final boss very early with lucky build 🙂

[west salmon]

anyone have any advice for me, how to get a really good run on heat 16?

[burnt sapphire]

uh

#h1-builds-and-combat or #h1-high-heat-strategies maybe

[winter pike]

When it comes to Satyr tunnels I feel like the boss fight ones are so much easier than the others for some reason

[burnt sapphire]

because they take way shorter due to there being way less enemies

[wind harness]

yo try to mark things with spoilers

[gusty slate]

The boss rooms are less punishing imo

[wind harness]

dont wanna spoil the new comers lol

[burnt sapphire]

oh yeah do try and mark things with spoilers if it is potentially spoiling content

[wheat mango]

Is Pact of Punishment talk allowed here? I just beat Elysium with Extreme Measures 3

[burnt sapphire]

maybe spoiler just in case

[wind harness]

its post game so probably not?

unless you are a real gamer like me and playing on hell mode

[gusty slate]

We're a lot harder about spoilers in new player channel

I thought pact is fine here

[wind harness]

maybe idk

[gusty slate]

hellmode players need somewhere to go 😦

[austere jacinth]

There's no harm in spoiler tagging though ^^

[wind harness]

true

[flat vapor]

i've seen it every which way here

pact is definitely spoiler territory in #h1-for-new-players

[wind harness]

yeah

[wheat mango]

Yeah that's why I didn't post it there

[wind harness]

anything that you wouldnt know as a new comer would probably be a spoiler

[wheat mango]

Part of me wants to share a screenshot of my build that I could've sworn wouldn't make it BLIND even but where...

[flat vapor]

but for here, as long as you're not posting major spoilers about a few certain pacts, it's usually fine

[wheat mango]

I don't even have the full mirror of night unlocked xD

[burnt sapphire]

that pact

[gusty slate]

We're cultists.

[flat vapor]

we're satyrs?

[wind harness]

AHEM ||EM4 ||AHEM

[winter pike]

Gah

[burnt sapphire]

ah, that

[wind harness]

eurydice how dare you

[winter pike]

Also || tiny rodent || is freaking hilarious

[tired merlin]

did I accidentally talk about that in here?

[winter pike]

Sorry :'')

[burnt sapphire]

lmao yes

[wind harness]

true lol

[gusty slate]

You hellspawn, we're in the underworld, but there's some lines you don't cross

[austere jacinth]

||Rodents of Usual Size are to be feared more than there Unusually Sized variants. That Tiny Rodent xDD||

[heavy breach]

Also || tiny rodent || is freaking hilarious
Always appreciate a good monty python reference

[wind harness]

||like not gifting to ||

[winter pike]

@austere jacinth LMAO

Also I think my biggest issue with how I play in general is that I'm ssoooo impatient

[burnt sapphire]

also ||tiny rodent|| is the only one with a boss healthbar lmao

[gusty slate]

Can't be worse than my playstyle

eating attacks is deliz

[burnt sapphire]

i literally just go with the flow

[tired merlin]

did you mean dodging into projectiles

[burnt sapphire]

if that's the case use deflect dash

[gusty slate]

I'm magnetically attracted to all attacks

[tired merlin]

f

[burnt sapphire]

deflect dash will cure all your problems

[austere jacinth]

My playstyle is '... Oh look, time to dash into lava again'.

[heavy breach]

Dodging? don't even know her

[gusty slate]

Who that

[winter pike]

I just keep doing dumb stuff where like I am impatient so u lose a death defied just because I went straight into a bosses range because they were low on health or something

My playstyle is '... Oh look, time to dash into lava again'.
@austere jacinth vibes

[heavy breach]

Man, pierced butterfly is just such a bad keepsake

[burnt sapphire]

pierced butterfly trains you to be better

[heavy breach]

"Gives all projectiles and attacks magnetism" what an awful stat

[gusty slate]

is good if you good

-wise man's words

[burnt sapphire]

ok i am making that a pact of punishment

[winter pike]

I don't have pierced butterfly yet cause literally every time Than shows up I don't have nectar but then every other time I have like 5

[astral swift]

I just keep doing dumb stuff where like I am impatient so u lose a death defied just because I went straight into a bosses range because they were low on health or something
@winter pike
This is my exact issue

[burnt sapphire]

"you will now attract attacks and projectiles"

[winter pike]

It makes me soooo mad

[gusty slate]

That's an actual pact

[heavy breach]

Dear God, don't give the devs any ideas

[gusty slate]

There's one buff for witches...

[winter pike]

I'm like that close to beating the boss so I'm like YEET and then they do damage and I lose a death defied

Like 😐

[burnt sapphire]

yeah but like

everything

[quiet gull]

I'm like that close to beating the boss so I'm like YEET and then they do damage and I lose a death defied
@winter pike Have you tried not doing that?

[gusty slate]

lol traps move toward you

[heavy breach]

Every enemy just has the magnetic cutter, lol

[gusty slate]

even the floor traps

[burnt sapphire]

you know how in certain games when you rubberband and it just makes you move weirdly

that will be everything but toward you

[winter pike]

@quiet gull LMAAOOO not yet it's an impulse

[astral swift]

@winter pike Have you tried not doing that?
@quiet gull
Calm down Hypnos

[quiet gull]

[austere jacinth]

I did manage to max out the butterfly and I felt SO SMUG when I did. However, when Than himself shows up, I turn feral. By that I mean I. MUST. WIN.

I often end up taking a LOT of extra damage.

[gusty slate]

Than: "as expected"

[winter pike]

I love than

[quiet gull]

I recommend just sitting there and WATCHING the boss. Dont even attack, just dash around and watch their movement and patterns

[astral swift]

I did manage to max out the butterfly and I felt SO SMUG when I did. However, when Than himself shows up, I turn feral. By that I mean I. MUST. WIN.
Yoooo I throw myself in harms way just to avoid him stealing my kills

[winter pike]

I am LOOKING

[heavy breach]

Yoooo I throw myself in harms way just to avoid him stealing my kills
Pride is lethal dude

[gusty slate]

make game do work for you, Artemis/Zeus duo is dandy

[austere jacinth]

Than wants me to take less damage and have to fight through fewer enemies but... NOPE. Gotta win.

[runic lintel]

Can’t lose a death defied if you just take stubborn defiance

[gusty slate]

2stubborn2die

-Zag

[winter pike]

Also

[heavy breach]

I do enjoy the fact that thanatos just wants to protect his bae, but nah

My number has to be bigger, sorry

[astral swift]

Than wants me to take less damage and have to fight through fewer enemies but... NOPE. Gotta win.
Enters the room with 90 health and leave with 23 "Still won tho"

[heavy breach]

Maybe don't encourage it by giving me a heart, than is just an enabler

[gusty slate]

"Hey that's my kill!"

[burnt sapphire]

sorry than i must get at least 30 more kills than you or else

[winter pike]

Does anyone have a freaking ISSUE with asterius where he like just barely runs AROUND the pillar

[gusty slate]

Yes

[winter pike]

It keeps happening to me and omfg it's frustrating

[gusty slate]

Dashing too early

[winter pike]

AAAAA

[runic lintel]

Nah never

[astral swift]

I do enjoy the fact that thanatos just wants to protect his bae, but nah
and yet he fusses with everyone who tries to help us

[gusty slate]

Asterius can turn on a dime for me xD

Dashing towards him as he approaches a pillar works better for me at least

[wind harness]

taking the hit works for me

[astral swift]

Me watches Asterius go around the pillar
Me:

[heavy breach]

Does anyone have a freaking ISSUE with asterius where he like just barely runs AROUND the pillar
Ha, I have fooled you bull man, for I have dashed THROUGH the pillar!
runs around the pillar and hits me anyway

[quiet gull]

Asterius' pathfinding.... could be improved, somewhat

[gusty slate]

Why take hit when you can deflect hit back

[austere jacinth]

Than ||stands up to Hades for Zag and kinda wins that argument.||

[gusty slate]

Fairly certain you can deflect melee attacks

[burnt sapphire]

yes

it's called parrying

[heavy breach]

I have seen deflected! pop up during melee attacks

[burnt sapphire]

but still deflected

[heavy breach]

oh, that's cool

[astral swift]

unless you skipped out on Athena's deflection cuz Doom Dash gets damage done faster

[wind harness]

just athena call lul

[heavy breach]

Doom dash?

Oh, that'd be a poggers boon

[gusty slate]

My cheese build is Zag fist, plume, as much dodge as I can find

[wind harness]

spinny blade of death when dash

[astral swift]

Not doom dash but that's wot it does

[winter pike]

Also today I realized that I sorta have Zags hair although mine is purple

[gusty slate]

The Ares/Athena duo probs

[heavy breach]

Merciful end is pretty g

[burnt sapphire]

Your dash now:
Deflects
Creates a lightning bolt where you dashed from
Inflicts weak to enemies near where you dashed
causes hangover near where you dashed
creates a blade rift where you started
shoots a gust of chill
-strike deals more damage
knocks enemies back

[astral swift]

Haha I used Poseidon's keepsake he stared at me and gave me one option: the ||Fishing|| legendary boon and dipped

[gusty slate]

Now add duos

[heavy breach]

[burnt sapphire]

imagine how broken it would be if you could combine the normal boons

[winter pike]

LMAO EGG

[gusty slate]

Pos/Zeus duo

[heavy breach]

imagine one super boon that you could get for somehow getting a boon from every god

[quiet gull]

Haha I used Poseidon's keepsake he stared at me and gave me one option: the ||Fishing|| legendary boon and dipped

@astral swift That's a scripted encounter

I think it happens even without the keepsake

[gusty slate]

but that's the best boon ingame

[burnt sapphire]

imagine one super boon that you could get for somehow getting a boon from every god
lol no

[gusty slate]

Also, if you could get a boon from every god, Theseus is left in the dust

[astral swift]

I'm just glad he came back and gave me the special with knockback

[heavy breach]

Oh, that's an idea

[gusty slate]

He would have a mental breakdown, maybe

[heavy breach]

Boon that combines different boons into one boon? freeing up space for other boons in those slots?

nah, too boring

[burnt sapphire]

oh also you know that once you see 4 different olympians you won't see any other ones without forcing them

[heavy breach]

Yeah, I do but still

A man can dream

[gusty slate]

Isn't it once you accept 4

[burnt sapphire]

maybe? idk

[astral swift]

oh also you know that once you see 4 different olympians you won't see any other ones without forcing them
@burnt sapphire
Hermes' mandatory pop-ins included?

[heavy breach]

Hermes doens't count I believe

[burnt sapphire]

hermes does not count becaus he is hermes

[astral swift]

Noice

[gusty slate]

does count for mirror

[runic lintel]

Theseus is ez

Bad fighter

[heavy breach]

I got Athena, Poseidon, Artemis and Ares

As well as Hermes

So yeah, Herms doesn't count

[austere jacinth]

Hermes moves too fast to be counted

[heavy breach]

Theseus is ez
Asterius carries theseus hard ||haven't fought him with his chariot yet though||

[astral swift]

For the first time ever I'm going to ||Hades|| with full health

[quiet gull]

He also literally carries him... though I have yet to see the throw move

[heavy breach]

Hm, I have an absolutely impenetrable shield blessed by the gods, let me just turn around

[austere jacinth]

He YEETS him

[astral swift]

He also literally carries him... though I have yet to see the throw move
@quiet gull
You mean "BULLHORN"?

[heavy breach]

Asterius kinda crouches down and yeets him, as far as I know, the only requirement is that they have to be close to each other (physically)

[austere jacinth]

And to be fair, Theseus would be most people, Asterius included. Zag is just the best ❤️

[ancient canyon]

what are some actually fun builds with the sword, spear, or fists? they're the 3 weapons i haven't cleared with yet

[quiet gull]

Zag aspects?

Cause Poseidon sword can get real nuts and fun, but

[ancient canyon]

i've got the sword with zag aspect maxed for the skelly companion

[astral swift]

Asterius kinda crouches down and yeets him, as far as I know, the only requirement is that they have to be close to each other (physically)

You don't even see-it you hear it and you feel it

[wind harness]

the only attack they do together

[heavy breach]

Kinda hard to go wrong with the sword, I'd say just take a boon that ups attack damage

And destroy your left mouse button

[quiet gull]

Getting Artemis dash with sword and GR is ace

[heavy breach]

oh artemis dash

literally my most picked boon I think, it's defintely an artemis boon

[ancient canyon]

i'd like to build something around demeter, since i need to give her lots of nectar for the epilogue

[heavy breach]

Demeter build?

Laser

Cast

[quiet gull]

Crystal Meeeeme

I suggest going Stygian Soul and getting extra casts with Chaos

Had six beams going by the final boss, it was wild

[heavy breach]

You're gonna need to open the codex a few times though, there's a bunch of boons that are nigh mandatory to make crystal cast pog

[austere jacinth]

It's pretty fun though.

[ancient canyon]

so which weapon is best with demeter?

[quiet gull]

you dont NEED a duo for Crystal Beam, but they sure do help

[gusty slate]

they can all use 'em

[quiet gull]

Demeter is good with anything

High increase to base damage, but also a stacking curse

[gusty slate]

Dem has... second highest damage boost % if I recall

I like trying to grab Zeus/Dem... she also has some really strong cast build duos

[quiet gull]

Ice Wine is incredibly powerful too

[gusty slate]

Dio cast/ Dem , Pos cast / Dem scary stuff

[heavy breach]

Artemis/Zeus with demeter crystals

[quiet gull]

Mirage Shot is compatible with Crystal Beam too 👀

[heavy breach]

Duo digging time

[quiet gull]

twelve crystals

Imagine...

[burnt sapphire]

combined casts would be crazy, for example demeter crystal but it shoots lightning bolts instead

[heavy breach]

That's Artemis/zeus kinda

[burnt sapphire]

yeah ik

[heavy breach]

Man, Hades is going to have a fun time when you come up with that combo

[burnt sapphire]

or like

[heavy breach]

I still have to try out revenge build

[wind harness]

happy halloween

yay

spok tieme

[heavy breach]

One hour left for me

Imagine

[wind harness]

1 min over for me

[gusty slate]

spook time, I forgot

[wind harness]

imagine not having halloween lol

[heavy breach]

12 o clock midnight, October 31st

[gusty slate]

Gotta call the ghostbusters

Got a shade problem

[heavy breach]

On every computer screen, the zombie from the car commercial ad jumpscares you

[wind harness]

did you guys hear the new call theme

[heavy breach]

Lol, nobody calls me

I heard it's pog

[gusty slate]

?

[heavy breach]

Around halloween, when somebody calls you on discord, the music is different

[gusty slate]

Oh never knew, as... well

[wind harness]

WRONG

[heavy breach]

[gusty slate]

[wind harness]

i just accidentally roasted this poor soul

[gusty slate]

[astral swift]

Ahahahahhahaha totally didn't almost lose all my progress after ||feeding cerberus|| by nearly pressing the close button on my switch

Full health too- mind you

[burnt sapphire]

😬

[winter pike]

Revenge build useless if you don't get hit 😎

[astral swift]

the flipping lazer glitches through the pillar and swallowed my last death defiance

[winter pike]

NOOOOO

[astral swift]

He still has ¾ of his health left

[winter pike]

Dlejjsodnanja

Sadge

[gusty slate]

I ask the pillars nicely, they take one for the team

[hardy shore]

How can i get rip current from posiden? Like what are the prerequisites.

[quiet gull]

Check in your codex!

(if you have the upgrade for it)

[hardy shore]

is that there?

ill check thanks!

[gusty slate]

Need to grba upgrade from contractor

[flat vapor]

get pos call first, it's specifically an upgrade to it

[mellow pumice]

i think i just had a bug? with enemy behaviour?

||in the champions fight, whenever Asterius would start his dash-run-attack, he would run straight into Theseus instead of me||

[gusty slate]

I thought that was a combo

[mellow pumice]

||no em3, no weird special move, just runs straight away from me||

||there IS a combo where theseus goes towards asterius, who is in a readying position, and then asterius throws him||

||but normally, asterius shouldve dashed towards me||

[gusty slate]

Oh really? Could've sworn A charging towards T was a ground wave

[austere jacinth]

||There are two combos. The throw (Bull Horn) and a clash (Delta Strike)||

[mellow pumice]

they have names??

[gusty slate]

Of course

[mellow pumice]

A ran straight into a pillar both times anyway

[gusty slate]

He has pathing issues

lel

[austere jacinth]

Of course they have names. There's a definite pro-wrestler feel to the whole thing

[mellow pumice]

i want to see them do a Shatter Machine

its a really old and specific wrestling move

but its cool af

[austere jacinth]

Shatter Machine isn't old.

[mellow pumice]

all the videos i found of it are

[austere jacinth]

It's The Revival's finisher. Or was when they were still in WWE.

[mellow pumice]

yes exactly

[austere jacinth]

It's not old at all.

[mellow pumice]

but all the videos of it were from 2010-2013

or at least had terrible quality

[austere jacinth]

THAT'S NOT OLD T.T

[mellow pumice]

i'm young anyway

nor am i really into wrestling

[austere jacinth]

And the Revival only signed in 2014, so it's gotta be later.

I feel old now T.T

[mellow pumice]

look i dont know jack about wrestling

[austere jacinth]

At least Theseus is older.

[mellow pumice]

i only looked up cool wrestling ""duo"" moves for a d&d campaign

i can probably name 3 wrestlers in total

[austere jacinth]

Ah. I like both D&D and pro-wrestling.

[mellow pumice]

not far apart with a barbarian-monk duo

actually let me think.. so theres hulk hogan, right, but i think he retired? but he WAS there some years ago, like, before i was born probably

yeah born 1953

i think that does classify as old

[austere jacinth]

Yep. He's getting on a bit is Hogan.

[mellow pumice]

then theres.. what was that guys name.. it was just like, one letter i think? or like

Triple H

there

[austere jacinth]

Nice.

[mellow pumice]

obviously everyone knows the name john cena so i didnt really count that

[zealous fiber]

Good evening, blackguards

[austere jacinth]

I do like that SGG kept that vibe for Theseus and Asterius, given the origins of wrestling as a sport.

[mellow pumice]

Good evening to you too, foul daemon

i wonder if theseus gets genuine support and fans, or if he acts like a heel

[zealous fiber]

I have come to mingle with my Hades boyos

Plus get the Zagreus emotes tyvm ;^)

[austere jacinth]

Theseus is a total face to the audience.

Zag has far fewer die-hard fans.

[mellow pumice]

my good shade!

[icy zephyr]

Read as: 1

[zealous fiber]

Which makes no sense, at this point I've spanked Theseus' butt in front of an audience countless times

Those are some hella dedicated fans

[mellow pumice]

bouldy could participate in the elysium arena i think

the 2 ton menace

[austere jacinth]

The Rock was a total jerk to his enemies. Humiliated them over and over. Theseus is just well liked by his audience. There's more to being the Champion than winning all the time.

[mellow pumice]

side note: i am not a geologist i do not know how dense bouldy would be

i forgot dwayne johnson was a wrestler before he was an actor

those pecs mustve come from somewhere ig

[austere jacinth]

He bulked up for his acting roles.

[mellow pumice]

i need someone to calculate bouldy's weight

it's of utter importance

[austere jacinth]

Rude of you to ask!

[mellow pumice]

😔

his.. Density, if you will

[wise geyser]

Just won for the second time. The shield seems kinda busted. Is it just easy to use or something?

[mellow pumice]

all weapons are created equal

what you make of them makes them good or bad

[austere jacinth]

I've been having some good Malphon and Rail runs recently.

[mellow pumice]

hidden rail is super fun

[empty harbor]

Got the duo boon that makes my minimum boon rarity Epic, then got Refreshing nectar from Eurydice, which upgrades the rarity of my next 3 boons, but the first I find is still epic? 😦

[wise geyser]

I'm not super good with the close range weapons, but the shield negates that when you just never take damage =V

[mellow pumice]

@empty harbor you cant get Heroic directly

but you did have a higher chance of legendary or duo, just there

sadly it wasnt available or you just got unlucky

[empty harbor]

Weird, I swear I've seen heroics before, just as an option

[austere jacinth]

You can get it as a swap

[mellow pumice]

yea yea

[quiet gull]

Got the duo boon that makes my minimum boon rarity Epic, then got Refreshing nectar from Eurydice, which upgrades the rarity of my next 3 boons, but the first I find is still epic? 😦
@empty harbor It increases the chances for a rarity upgrade

[empty harbor]

Oooooh okay

[mellow pumice]

or upgrade it via ambrosia delight or ||rare crop||

[quiet gull]

So you have increased, but not guaranteed, chances of legendaries or duos

[empty harbor]

Thanks guys 😄

[mellow pumice]

[austere jacinth]

Tasty food. Zag seems... unused to good food.

[mellow pumice]

5 second rule. That was 5 seconds, right?

[winter pike]

Question

[flat vapor]

floor ice cream!

[austere jacinth]

He just... eats onions straight xDD

[quiet gull]

Question
@winter pike Answer

[winter pike]

How tf do u block/not take damage from || Hades green circle things IM LOSING IT ||

[mellow pumice]

what was that healing food called again? i know it has a name, zag said it once

[winter pike]

Gyros?

[quiet gull]

With ranged attacks, or dashing through them

[winter pike]

I think I'm dashing too early then hhh

[mellow pumice]

@winter pike ||destroy them from far apart, or pay attention which ones hades is about to destroy||

do you have 2 dashes already?

[winter pike]

Wait wait

[quiet gull]

Just dash right through them, dont even wait a second

[mellow pumice]

probably

[winter pike]

Not the hand one

[mellow pumice]

Oh

[winter pike]

Not the hand circles the ground circles

[quiet gull]

The.... what circles

[winter pike]

Also @mellow pumice wanna do crimes

[mellow pumice]

The exploding skulls?

[quiet gull]

Oh

[mellow pumice]

oh my god i swear EVERYONE comments on my profile picture lmfao thanks

[winter pike]

Yea I think so that do the green ground circles LOL

[quiet gull]

Yeah you can technically dash through them, but do NOT attack when you do so

[winter pike]

hhmm ok

[mellow pumice]

they happen when the ||fiery skulls|| explode

[winter pike]

They're truly the bane of my existence

[quiet gull]

Dash twice or three times and dont stop mashing that button till you're clear

[mellow pumice]

kind of like the green hydra's eggs can hatch

[quiet gull]

That, or just destroy the skulls

[winter pike]

Gotcha oke

[quiet gull]

Also, running away works

[mellow pumice]

yes kill the skulls they only have 100hp or so

[quiet gull]

They dont cover the whole arena

[mellow pumice]

yes the wave doesnt go infinitely

||the one from hades himself does go infinite though||

[winter pike]

Yee usually I try to run to a spot they can't reach as well

I FRESKING HATE || FIRE LASER ||

[mellow pumice]

try to hug him when it happens

[winter pike]

Didn't make it to the puller I am SAD

[mellow pumice]

genuinely

give him a hug

[winter pike]

ooh

Huggies

[quiet gull]

Get yourself an invincible Call

Poseidon, Ares or Athena

[mellow pumice]

i am not kidding when he does that attack go all the way up to him and hug him

[quiet gull]

Makes it real easy

[raw mango]

Oh those runs where you go into last boss expecting to lose quickly because you been having a rough time with current build but manage to almost win anyways but last phase ||EM4|| still just barely gets you... if only you didn’t do horribly earlier and managed to have just one more DD

[astral osprey]

i am not kidding when he does that attack go all the way up to him and hug him
Just hug him whenever he does any attack, not just that one

Dad's just a little lonely Q~Q

[vale yew]

Does big daddy do more damage in EM4 than normal or something

like the same attacks do twice the hp

[gusty slate]

redacted at full power

[astral osprey]

Time for sleeps
Gn my lovely shades

[remote forge]

(dumb) DLC Idea: play as ||Schelemeus||

[livid yacht]

I need a more lenient time window for perfect catches, these old reflexes can't keep up

[lyric vector]

How to upgrade weapon aspects

[quiet gull]

I suggest looking above the bait instead of directly at it and reacting to the beam of light

[winter pike]

Do u have to escape with one heat before you can add more heat/get more blood

[remote forge]

One other note on fishing:

[brisk trail]

Well, yes
But you can overfill, will do the lowest heat first then the next

[remote forge]

The time between a fake bob and the bite is constant

If there's a bite after a bob, it's always the same amount of time later

A little under a second I think

[gusty slate]

0.34 seconds or something

[remote forge]

No that's the window for a perfect catch

[livid yacht]

3 bob max, right?

[mellow pumice]

ya

[remote forge]

Yup

[gusty slate]

3 fake ones max

[astral swift]

What's a good hammer for Chiron's bow?

[remote forge]

The one that adds more shots to the special

[midnight wasp]

i’m sad bc i died in esylium

[remote forge]

Hands down

Also #h1-builds-and-combat

[midnight wasp]

i kinda want to give up but i shouldn’t

[winter pike]

Don't give up !

[remote forge]

But remember!

[winter pike]

Have u escaped Elysium before yet?

[remote forge]

There is no escape!

[flat vapor]

chiron's perfect hammer sequence is concentrated volley to relentless volley

[sonic ridge]

Don't give up, skeleton!

[brisk trail]

escapen

[midnight wasp]

no i’ve only made it to ||asterius|| but this time i died to ||asterius and the hero of athens||

[remote forge]

Relentless Volley is the best for Chiron I think

[winter pike]

Aw well trust me it'll be worth it when u finally beat the boss

It'll feel AMAZING

[remote forge]

Concentrated Volley is also great

[mellow pumice]

when you use a god's keepsake before the run, are you guaranteed to get a seed that contains the god, or is it just added?

[winter pike]

keep it up !

[mellow pumice]

cuz sometimes i only get like one boon from them and they dip

[flat vapor]

concentrated provides more of a dps boost if you're using +% gods

[remote forge]

@midnight wasp I got stuck on Asterius and Theseus for several runs

[quiet gull]

They'll keep showing up, yeah

[gusty slate]

sounds like bad rng

[sonic ridge]

fr, nothing feels as good as defeating the two lads

[remote forge]

Now I clear them easily

Your skill will increase a lot

[sonic ridge]

Last boss is just a bonus

[quiet gull]

But if you put on another keepsake you might bump them off your stack

[remote forge]

One tip: focus on Asterius first

[mellow pumice]

cause i still need ||demeters|| legendary boon for the prophecy

[flat vapor]

relentless is 2nd best, 1st best if you're doing something like dio or arctic blast

[sonic ridge]

focus on whichever first tbh

[remote forge]

Nah, much easier (without extreme measures) to focus Asterius

Theseus becomes just an annoying pink dot every so often

And you won't have to deal with both of them while Theseus does his call

[sonic ridge]

big lad is easier to evade and smol lad is just wait attack wait attack

[winter pike]

Don't u love it when u have butterfly equipped and then dash into a trap

[remote forge]

Am I the only one (post-credits) who after most runs just dumps all gems into keys into nectar lol?

I am trying to max relationships but it doesn't seem like gems have much other use for me now

Neither do keys

Except a theme maybe

[quiet gull]

It's handy to have 15 keys in case you get the TB trade

[winter pike]

Yeah once u unlock full mirror and if u don't care about renovations then yea

[quiet gull]

But yeah

[remote forge]

With Vanquisher's Keep I have plenty of gems

That upgrade seemed not great but it's fantastic

Basically guaranteed income to trade up