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#h1-discussion
tepid plover
exotic basalt
Buy the ||disco ball||, it's the most important item
carmine ravine
*disco skull
austere jacinth
I maxed quite a few folks before Dusa, I think. Meg and Than were my first two, although I was throwing nectar to Achilles and Nyx and Hypnos whenever I could xDD
tepid plover
Is all about the skull
indigo canopy
i missing the poet bust, the gem paintings of people, and everything in the main hall that costs more than 800
gusty slate
The ||bats|| are the best addition
tepid plover
I'm missing one column and the ||great hall fountain||
austere jacinth
I have... a lot T.T
gusty slate
I'm too busy grinding gems for the big one
tepid plover
Is only 2300 gems total
quaint hatch
I get the expensive stuff first
tepid plover
@quaint hatch why don't you have any roles you pleb
quaint hatch
I don't know how to get them
tepid plover
#bot-commands
quaint hatch
I use discord on mobile mostly
carmine ravine
the themes is cheap too, ike 10k gems, 25k gems, 25k darkness
oak shore
Dusa was the first person I maxed
carmine ravine
same, but my themes bugged, i cant use woodland anymore
gusty slate
Dad was first one I maxed ||Pre 1.0 of course||
carmine ravine
still using infinity tho
tepid plover
First person I maxed was cerb, then sisyphus
quaint hatch
Feel better now?
tepid plover
Yes
indigo canopy
Dusa was the first person I maxed
@oak shore mine was charon
oak shore
Legit my first like 20 hours of the game was just taking every gem room and trove I could to buy nice chairs and stuff for the lounge
carmine ravine
maxed artemis first, thinking i can romance her 
dapper mango
last i need maxed is sisyphus : o
tepid plover
Bro you really into your cousins aren't you
carmine ravine
no its zag cousins not mine
tepid plover
I needed sisyphus for ||shady||
indigo canopy
i mean it is greek mythology
sonic ridge
heady gulch
austere jacinth
Charon was the third person I maxed. After Than and Meg. I adore him. The last one I needed was Hypnos.
sonic ridge
congrats fam
gusty slate
Here begins a greater journey
sonic ridge
why did you leave sleepy boi for last?
real fossil
hypnos took awhile
gusty slate
because sleepy boi rng is big mean
sonic ridge
true true
real fossil
maxed than first cuz best boi HAHAHAHA
gusty slate
buuuuut I did buy him a bed first thing
real fossil
(next to cerbs)
oak shore
I straight up still have Hypnos at 1 heart
austere jacinth
Hypnos took forever to be my friend. T.T
sonic ridge
I have most at 1 heart 🤡
austere jacinth
I would have maxed him out way sooner if I could, he's a sweetheart with great ideas, like a ||monthly rapture to get bro-time with Than.||
oak shore
That boy is living lemon juice in the paper cut of me being bad at video games
carmine ravine
clearly hypnos hates you, he told me so
tepid plover
He also told me
gusty slate
Was that what Hypnos was sleeptalking about 
austere jacinth
I mean Zag ||gets with his brother and the girl he crushes on.|| Maybe he's bitter deep, deep down? xDD
tepid plover
He wants to join the circle
sonic ridge
uh
carmine ravine
nope, hypnos only cares fir ||his lists||
tepid plover
real fossil
plot twist: all his comments are actually passive-agressive
quaint hatch
Casual olympian stuff
tepid plover
Well they are
sonic ridge
nope, hypnos only cares fir ||his lists||
Painfully based
oak shore
The charitable interpretation of Hypnos is that he's trying to do some friendly ribbing
Hypnos and Zag are secretly best buds, they only talk like they hate each other as an in-joke
carmine ravine
no, its with me, hypnos hate you, he told me so
tepid plover
They are bestfriends,
quaint hatch
Weird for some reason I have awesome sack luck now
tepid plover
sonic ridge
gusty slate
quaint hatch
tepid plover
Oh no
austere jacinth
So cute.
opal onyx
gusty slate
opal onyx
my favorite is charon
carmine ravine
no arty's gif, dissapointed
iron ether
wait why arn't thse emotes
austere jacinth
Dio and Aphro are more... happy about the attention
iron ether
they're amazing
red tiger
to encourage people to buy with nitro I guess
carmine ravine
wdym, its from steam
sonic ridge
ye, from the points store
austere jacinth
Dusa is sweet.
woeful bluff
indeed
ebon blaze
I run the game now and it has a Vulkan option on the launcher menu. Anybody knows what that is?
sonic ridge
compatibility probably
quiet gull
Render modes. Just use directx
iron ether
sharp fossil
switch if you have performance issues, i think
mint hawk
:)
vestal plank
sometimes the house contractor section feels a bit cluttered?
more. im buying upgrades or cosmetics that ive already bought for one section that just gets replaced by the other.
because im a genius and dont read and its all mixed in some what.
trying to figure out what to focus on getting
wheat kayak
Vulkan seems to run much better than DirectX for me but uh two times I tried it and one time game just crashed
unkempt sleet
really depends on how far are you in the game and how many gems you can farm
vestal plank
im still very early into the game i figure
wheat kayak
the other was a long freeze that I had to alt F4 for
vestal plank
only just completed a heat 1 last night
so i just occasionally do a gem focused run to buy stuff
i mainly focus on darkness and titans blood to increase the weapons powers and aspects
unkempt sleet
Focus on work orders first, then lounge upgrades. Vanquisher's keep is a good investement
vestal plank
darkness. and lounge and various stuff thats gameplay focused i work on. cosmetic stuff is just if i feel it
cerberus getting a bed was worth it
unkempt sleet
That is true
quiet gull
im still very early into the game i figure
@vestal plank Then just focus on the first tab, those that give in game effects
The rest are just cosmetic, you can forget about those for a while
Prioritize the Fountain buffs
vestal plank
fountain buffs are amazing
quiet gull
Then the gold vases, then the blue laurel room buffs
Dont even think about Tartarus challenges until after the credits
merry jewel
lads, ive forged a bond with dusa and thanatos, but aphrodite's last heart is still locked?
unkempt sleet
Ehhh
I'd save diamonds for Vanquisher's keep
Then you can trade gems for broker things
vestal plank
i like how some of those things make no sense to me still
vanquishers keep
forged a bond
tartarus challenges
credits? like theres an endgame 'credits' i figured the game just keeps rolling
unkempt sleet
You should have Vanquisher's Keep as an upgrade in work orders
merry jewel
....yes there are credits
unkempt sleet
I know I had it
wheat kayak
Dont even think about Tartarus challenges until after the credits
you mean Erebus?
unkempt sleet
The game doesn't stop after credits because it's a roguelite and these games never stop
quiet gull
lads, ive forged a bond with dusa and thanatos, but aphrodite's last heart is still locked?
@merry jewel Missing Meg
merry jewel
is aphrodite's favour bugged for me or am i missing something??? ive maxed my bond with everyone other than her and ive gotten dusa and than's scenes, but shes still locked?
quiet gull
you mean Erebus?
@wheat kayak I did, dang
vestal plank
ahh okay quick google search
quiet gull
Might be bugged, might just be dialogue RNG
merry jewel
aphrodite is the only one i havent finished yet
unkempt sleet
RNG dialog be like that
wheat kayak
5 heat Erebus chambers aren't too awful honestly
vestal plank
theres a credit scene after finishing how ever many runs?
unkempt sleet
10
merry jewel
not sure of how many
wheat kayak
10 wins
merry jewel
10 wins and then you cry a little bit at the credits and then you keep goin
merry jewel
youll get there!
unkempt sleet
You'll get the hand of redacted eventually
vestal plank
yah its getting easier and easier the longer i play
merry jewel
i didnt get my first win until after my 100th run, but i win most runs now
hopefully you get yours faster
afaik i am an outlier
vestal plank
i got my first win within the first 15 or 20?
merry jewel
nice job!
merry jewel
the reason i didnt until my 100th run was bc i rushed redacted every time
vestal plank
yah i got my first heat win after 2 tries
merry jewel
finally chilled out and took my time and now its ez
vestal plank
im just now at my 25th?
always confused what to save diamonds for. but feel i should keep them
unkempt sleet
Vanquisher's Keep, then upgrades to blue laurel rewards
merry jewel
some things only unlock later or after youve purchased others
wheat kayak
work orders are the first things you spend quite a lot of diamonds on
unkempt sleet
they should be in work orders
merry jewel
yeah focus work orders first, everything else is cosmetic
vestal plank
yah theres the music upgrades but thats eh
unkempt sleet
Unless you haven't yet purchased enough work orders and they aren't
merry jewel
theyre not even upgrades tbh like
nothing changes you just get to listen to them at home
unkempt sleet
You unlock music for your music stand
vestal plank
ahh i just got the vanquishers keep upgrade to appear last night
wheat kayak
They are your diamond sink after you don't need to spend your diamonds on anything anymore outside of trading them in at the broker, I suppose
merry jewel
yep
wheat kayak
Is there a theme that's sold for diamonds
vestal plank
yah did contractors deluxe desk so now have alot more options
unkempt sleet
It gives you 10 gems for furies, 20 for Hydra, 30 for T&A and 50 for redacted
It's a good amount of gems
rare obsidian
It makes gem chambers feel really bad though
merry jewel
i mean
unkempt sleet
I don't mind gem chambers when they give me 20 gold, but otherwise 5 gems is too little for me
vestal plank
is Redacted just the joke name for when hypnos says "you were killed by redacted!?"
rare obsidian
20 gold is not an enticing enough bonus to make me choose gems over literally anything else given the option
unkempt sleet
@vestal plank Yes
wheat kayak
20 gold can make or break a purchase sometimes esp. in Tartarus imo unless you brought coin purse
merry jewel
i choose gem rooms over every other basic room [shrug]
keys r useless to me rn and dont really need darkness at this very moment so im just gettin gems
exotic basalt
Keys are pretty nice for the reroll tokens they give you
unkempt sleet
Keys are very useful early game but you run out of uses for them soonish
But extra dice makes them pretty good
wheat kayak
unless the other chamber is too good to pass up, but from my experience you don't get blue laurel and gold laurel both at the same time for exits
exotic basalt
They also trade pretty well up to nectars, which is a fairly valuable resource
wheat kayak
pretty much
exotic basalt
Unlocking weapons too, but yes
wheat kayak
but there's a theme that goes for 200 keys
wise stratus
mirror, trade and cosmetic
wheat kayak
and it's worth holding onto 15 of them for the 15 keys - 1 blood special deal
merry jewel
saving keys for the cosmetic now
quiet gull
Always have 15 keys around for-- that
vestal plank
good to know
merry jewel
whats the use of titan blood beyond weapons?
exotic basalt
nothing, that's it
quiet gull
Just weapons
quiet gull
There's a theme, and titles, but mostly weapons
exotic basalt
Ah, that might be it yes
wheat kayak
but that one is like just 10 blood
quiet gull
You only need like 50 TB for non-weapon things
vestal plank
do weapons have a upgrade cap?
merry jewel
yes
quiet gull
Level 5
wheat kayak
The amount of blood you need for aspects is honestly a lot
vestal plank
i've just been focusing on unlocking the aspects lvl1 right now
quiet gull
Cost of level 5 is 5, 15, 16, 15 blood for the aspectws
exotic basalt
Yeah it's 5+15+16+15 to fully juice up each weapon
quiet gull
for each weapon
merry jewel
51 tb per weapon then?
wheat kayak
especially if you are like me and do try to play all aspects
wheat kayak
instead of sticking to just a weapon since swapping often is more fun
exotic basalt
I need all of them, otherwise how will I randomize which weapon aspect to pick?
quiet gull
But some aspects really need the investment to get good
exotic basalt
Just shove all of them into random.org and let it work it out
wheat kayak
GY is probably the hardest to use aspect at lvl 1
exotic basalt
Yeah, that one benefits heavily from being leveled up
wheat kayak
I can still win with it but getting chunked by redacted suddenly hurts a lot more when you have 30% of your normal 200 HP (by lategame)
quiet gull
GY is probably the hardest to use aspect at lvl 1
@wheat kayak Just get charged skewer and spam special, ezpz everytime
merry jewel
gy lvl 1 is a nightmare bro
vestal plank
i dont spin on spears
wheat kayak
I will live by -
vestal plank
like ever
exotic basalt
Starting at 35 HP and each centaur heart giving 7 is a bit different from starting at 50 and each heart giving 12/13
quiet gull
Still waiting for SGG to patch in a good spear aspect
merry jewel
hades aspect is my favourite spear aspect
exotic basalt
Agreed on that, spin attack feels super clunky
vestal plank
the punchy punchy fists and spear are fun to play
wheat kayak
Hades/GY shares the best spear position for me
quiet gull
hades aspect is my favourite spear aspect
@merry jewel I, too, like things that are bad
quiet gull
(i'm mostly joking)
wheat kayak
(without accounting for FO..)
merry jewel
lmao
wheat kayak
I haven't tried GY after the latest patch
quiet gull
It's mostly the same
wheat kayak
or rather I only got updated today
vestal plank
using the back paddles on my controller makes this game much snappier
have it bound to dash and attack
so im less button fatigue on the face buttons
quiet gull
Buffer attacks arent as good as they are on Arthur, cause less area of attack
exotic basalt
Killing like 3 enemies with the Arthur cleave is the best
quiet gull
Arthur is really fun
short gust
My favorite thing thus far has been the zeus aspect for shield with bolts or doom
wheat kayak
Arthur 
vestal plank
so its a chill zap shield
short gust
Haven't gotten Demeter on the shield yet.
wheat kayak
I slept on the Zeus shield but then I discovered its true potential
short gust
Yeah, 8 dmg per tick is like "ehhh."
wheat kayak
it skyrocketed to my fav shield
short gust
but 60 dmg per lightning bolt per tick...
gusty slate
funfact, Zeus aspect can 'attack' zag
wheat kayak
Merciful End on Zeus shield is bonkers
short gust
I think I wanna try the multi-shield aspect with a Doom run
just haven't gotten the luck off to make it happen
gusty slate
It's more evident when using zeus on special, lightning will generate upon attacking zag
Nevermind that's the same thing
short gust
They specifically called the perfect dodge out in a recent patch
is that what you mean?
Or that might have just been a damage buff.
paper light
Achilles aspect has good mobility and works well if you use the boost on your casts
short gust
I haven't fully gotten onboard with using casts and calls yet..
Which means I'm totally crippling my damage output and potential, yeah, but they just haven't been my 'favorite thing'. I usually go for attack/dash/special boons and grab those when nothing else looks good.
quiet gull
Several calls make you invulnerable, they can be invaluable when you're still learning the game
paper light
the damage calls give you i frames making them a good panic button
short gust
My favorite weapon thus far has been the shield, so that likely is why the invulnerable calls don't help me too much.
quiet gull
Ares, Athena, Poseidon. Just treat them as an extra long dash
short gust
Just spam the 500% bull rush lol
I did find the Ares call to be really good vs the satyrs/poison rats at the end..
undone frost
damn i dont wanna hand in my sturgeon to the headchef
novel wasp
You handle the headchef to the sturgeon instead
short gust
bahahahaha.
I got censored for saying the name of a certain fish that can be found in a can.
"Just be thankful that spotted blank aren't native to the River Styx."
long field
Spotted Cowboyfish
I am lost here please give me more clues what is the fish please help
short gust
Ah nevermind, I am mixing up two things.
One is a canned dessert.
@long field "Spotted Richard" might help you some? Assuming you're not totally joking.
short gust
I was mistaken, it isn't named that anyway.
That being said, that IS the name of a canned dessert. For some reason.
quiet gull
Wait till you hear what the Finns call their canned fish!
undone frost
forever
misty plinth
So have the devs made any announcement on cross saves? They said Oct 2020 and were almost done its on sale on steam and I really want to get it on there as well
quiet gull
So have the devs made any announcement on cross saves? They said Oct 2020 and were almost done
@misty plinth Check the literal Announcement Channel
long field
I don't mind having payed full price for HADES
I am glad, this game is 100% full price
short gust
For sure.
misty plinth
my baaaaaad but yeah same. im just glad it is on sale haha
short gust
I'll probably wait for the $10 sale to get it on the Switch if I want it to go
But I've just been using steam link to remote play on my phone on lunch..
long field
I might as well just shout "TAKE MY MONEY SUPERGIANT!" by now
vestal plank
ayy finally won with zeus shield
its a super super slow build to fight redacted i had though
wheat mango
...What actually does the duo boon Curse of Longing do? Its description seems rather unclear: Your Doom effects continuously strike Weak foes.
short gust
Whenever a target is weak, they automatically have doom applied to them up to whatever your maximum stack is, then once it pops, if they're still weak, they automatically have doom applied again?
That would be my guess
gusty slate
I thought a weak foe is hit with 1 doom, and then that doom continually hits them but gets weaker every hit
long field
It means Doom can be continuously applied to Weak foes
long field
Weak foes will constantly take Doom Damage
They will just keep getting hit
You don't even have to apply doom yourself
wheat mango
Oh. I see.
gusty slate
No you do?
short gust
So my interpretation would be correct then, Mossy?
Applies up to whatever your stack cap is and then once it pops, it will re-apply assuming they are still weak?
long field
I guess...?
gusty slate
Hm could've sworn you needed to put the initial doom down
gusty slate
Oh, I'm just bad at reading comprehension.
unkempt sleet
The doom damage decreases over time, but you can reapply it to restore it to full damage
long field
Thank you for the explanation
unkempt sleet
Every time the doom hits with the Duo, it refeshes but it deals a lot less damage
hidden pawn
What weapons is doom good for?
short gust
anything that hits intermittently really
Or, anything that hits super consistently but you didn't get a good lightning bolt boon
short gust
Shield Attack is pretty good if you bash > bash > bash like I do
gusty slate
melee?
short gust
"attack" i assume he means
unkempt sleet
It is on fists and rail as well as flurry slash
hidden pawn
My lazy go to combo is poseidon + zeus
short gust
Jolted is a weird one for me.
Because I almost never have an enemy that is getting bolted and also swinging at me except for bosses
probably better with sword/fists though
dark root
Jolted is pretty good'
unkempt sleet
It's good with ranged enemies, you just need to pay attention to their last attack
gusty slate
I bait out attacks by actually just being bad and not dodging
short gust
same but I have been using the shield mostly
So I just stand still and block everything
🤷
gusty slate
My laziest build was Zeus aspect, zeus special with zeus/art duo lul...
let them do all the work
while I hide in a corner with shield up of course
gusty slate
Hey if it works it works 
dark root
True
short gust
Oh man the chambers before redacted were hilarious with upgraded blade rifts + zeus special shield
dark root
That's why I use rail, because it works
gusty slate
all the spin
dark root
thorny crescent
My laziest build was stygius with the daedalus hammer upgrade that lets you heal each time you attack but reduces your health
The thing is,I had a lot of health and Athena’s call
gusty slate
I get nervous with that hammer
thorny crescent
and a bunch of invincibility items
so yeah it was really easy
Like really easy
short gust
My first "best run" was with the fists and I got the hammer( I think) buff that made your special heal you on kills.
And I just ran around uppercutting everything and eating damage
Tell you hwat that was one hell of a crutch. The next time I played fists I died before Fury.
gusty slate
Give me your life force
dark root
Yeah, that's hammer with fists
oak shore
I think laziest in a lot of ways for me was fists with Hermes attack speed +30% and epic stackable Doom
short gust
Also that run got ended by a hammer because I took the special "Buff" that makes it uppercut + slam.
dark root
That with the ||aspect|| that grabs opponents when you special is great
gusty slate
big numbers is sword legendary
short gust
And it made me stand still for long enough that witches just blasted me
gusty slate
I use the 'get over here' aspect on the chariots
just spam slam into a wall so they don't get near me
short gust
The flame wheels or chariots?
gusty slate
both
dark root
The flame wheels? damn
short gust
Because the flame wheels were what jacked me up. I had a run with splash dash and every time I hit one they blew up for 10 damage on my face
dark root
I hate those
gusty slate
yeah they do that, darn cats
dio cast helps a bit, can stun them while in fog
unless they have armour...
thorny crescent
The most enjoyable run I had was with coronacht(is that how you spell it? Anyway,the bow) with the hammer upgrade that makes the charge-up slow af but deal tons of damage,Demeter’s boon that inflicts chill on hit,the aspect that makes your special home in on enemies,the Artemis boon that makes little homing projectiles come out for every special,attack and cast,and Zeus’s boon which makes lightning hit foes on hit on my special
gusty slate
that's a lot of damage
thorny crescent
That is tons
I don’t think I’ve used up a single death defiance
Which is rare because the final boss usually destroys me
quasi olive
Quick question: during a trial of the gods, is the rarity of the first boon you claim more likely to be higher than the second one?
gusty slate
don't think so
flat vapor
they're just regular boons
short gust
Most people just pick whatever boon gives them an easier fight afterward.
Demeter actually gave me cancer when I picked Ares over her once so...
flat vapor
fun fact: in one update during early access, the second boon used to only give commons. this was shortly removed afterwards
gusty slate
Sounds fun
quasi olive
OK, thanks for all the answers and clarification! : )
flat vapor
really the only quirk you have to know is that trials cannot give out any duo boons
gusty slate
Only between the 2, no?
quasi olive
really the only quirk you have to know is that trials cannot give out any duo boons
@flat vapor are you sure about that one? Pretty sure my partner got duos from them...
flat vapor
no, any at all are not available
gusty slate
Interesting
short gust
Themetically it wouldn't make much sense for the god that's punishing you for choosing another god over them (thus humiliating them) to duo up with the god you chose.
woeful spoke
hello everyone
flat vapor
this was a change made long ago in early access (you can read it in #hades-patch-notes if you search up duo boons), so it's not surprising that people still think one way or another?
woeful spoke
got the game last week, beat hades a few times, cleared in under 20 minutes game time, and just looking to generally enhance my game
flat vapor
but i just find it funny that people are arguing over it when it's been clearly spelled out lol
gusty slate
Tall order expecting me to read all the patchnotes
vestal plank
we read?
short gust
ctrl+f duo
vestal plank
im here to press A and X alot and pray for good styx rolls
gusty slate
2019 😮 that was before my time!
rare obsidian
Theseus used to summon chariots?
vestal plank
oh that would of been nasty
rare obsidian
That's my big takeaway from that, other than the trial duos
pulsar timber
is this game going to continue getting new content or dlc?
short gust
If the previous games are any hint, likely no DLC
I'd be surprised if they didn't keep pumping out content while the game is in this massive high right now though
gusty slate
but first EA, one can hope
short gust
I would never "hope" for DLC, as a consumer personally.
Unless it were a full on secondary campaign
tired merlin
I like the sgg releases complete games
pulsar timber
I really hope they do, this is probably my favorite rogue like of all time
didn't think anything could top isaac to me
vestal plank
SGG just drops 'BAM amazing game'
tired merlin
they really do
austere jacinth
Yeah... but my greedy soul wants more. SO GOOD.
pulsar timber
same
gusty slate
Lol, got curious, apparently shield used to have innate deflect.... for a short amount of time
rare obsidian
I'd be interested in a pyre port to the switch since I don't really have time for steam gaming anymore but I definitely expect that to never happen
austere jacinth
Hangover or Chill on a fast weapon. With Support Fire.
short gust
What exactly does chill wind up doing?
woeful spoke
slowing enemies
short gust
I only completed one run and so I only have had chill a few times.
No extra damage on max stacks or anything like that (without extra boons to do so)
woeful spoke
I haven't really used cast much in my early runs, i've been experimenting with it, i really like dionysus and demeter's casts
lately my hands have been hurting deep into runs because I contort my hand so I can use attack, special, and cast readily
tired merlin
I like to stack doom with weak or chill + hangover for the extra slowdown
I should say I like these on fists
short gust
Am I just missing something btw or do certain casts just flat-out not "get gems stuck in enemies"
flat vapor
ares/dio/dem explicitly don't lodge
gusty slate
Yeah some don't, like dio cast
tired merlin
casts that turn into things I don't think get stuck in enemies
flat vapor
some others are aoe, so if you don't hit directly, they don't lodge (aphro and poseidon come to mind)
gusty slate
Some casts can also just sorta miss the lodge yeah ^
tired merlin
I like the dem turret but recently I've been going to for casts that do a status effect and then lodge in enemies
the zeus casts bounces right?
or at least I saw it bounce the last time I was fighting ||redacted|| which I thought was strange
flat vapor
ye, zeus bounces
the thing about zeus is that if there are multiple targets on the field, it's gonna bounce, even if there's no way it's gonna actually reach the next target
tired merlin
I don't especially love zeus runs
if you get enough lighting boons they add up in a nice way for a lot of damage but they're more trouble than they're worth to me
gusty slate
zeus duos are nifty
tired merlin
I like poseidon duos
gusty slate
tbh all the duos are nifty*
tired merlin
and dem duos ||stubborn roots forever||
flat vapor
zeus is definitely a god that you want to keep doubling up on
short gust
@tired merlin My favorite is Zeus Shield w/ Zeus Special and that's about it. Nothing else about Zeus makes me particularly happy.
undone frost
well i also caught a seamare now
flat vapor
doesn't do much good to see him once and never again
undone frost
did they increase the legendary catch rate
tired merlin
no idea but congrats on that fish
short gust
@flat vapor Outside of Zeus aspect shield anyway.
gusty slate
nope you're just quick
undone frost
i just caught a sturgeon like a couple mins ago
flat vapor
i mean sure, but you really want to pick up jolted, double strike, and splitting bolt if you're going zeus z-shield
gusty slate
I make do with just jolted tbh lol
tired merlin
I can't win with the shield
tired merlin
I can only win with fists :T
flat vapor
zeus z-shield is fun until you get to elysium and remember that everything moves
short gust
My only good run with fists started with a hammer for healing on special kills.
tired merlin
and the one time I won with the bow it was because I was up in everythings business
short gust
@flat vapor I just call it back to me and dash-strike behind them lol
tired merlin
the hammers have been unkind lately so I've been skipping them
short gust
With the shield I've never had a run where the hammers weren't good.
Power Rush / Charge Speed / Armor Piercing Rush are all good
So I can usually get a combination of 2 of those 3.
tired merlin
my faves for the fists are the +10% range for atk and spec 90 + blast landing
short gust
Oh I hate that one (blast landing)
gusty slate
blast landing isn't as good as the true blast one though
short gust
It ended my best run with the fists.
tired merlin
if you get the hermes +30% speed for spec it is magical
I also do almost all of my runs with the plume
short gust
Because it kept locking me in place after I'd gotten used to spam dash/special for healing
pure barn
I really like +10% range with fists as it makes it so you don't have to go as close to the enemy
short gust
I like the one that lets you charge up the special a little bit for a small dash.
gusty slate
I like the kick for some reason
short gust
Because it doesn't actually slow you down if you spam it, but you can still get a bit more oomph out of a charge when the opportunity presents itself
tired merlin
anything that adds a dash to my attacks throws me off for the rest of my run because adjusting the new distance is terribad for me
short gust
That's what killed me about the slam on fists
Adjusting to the 1 second of 'locked in place'
tired merlin
it shouldn't lock you in place if you double tap
short gust
Uhh..
tired merlin
but if you time it right with the landing it does more damage
short gust
I'll have to try that again but I don't remember that
pure barn
And also I like getting chill from Demeter with fists and combined with the one after 10 stacked chills makes an explosion, those are both really good
tired merlin
and if you have poseidon spec it knocks them away from you
gusty slate
one is animation landing, one is just a straight up explosion
gusty slate
Oh that one is super weird
tired merlin
I like the slam down aoe
short gust
That ended my 'god run' that I got the first time I used fists lmao
I've not gotten the hammer with +healing on special kill since then either. So now I just hate the fists.
gusty slate
the timing is weird on dash special
pure barn
The only reason my first fists run died is because I had to go off to get some water, and died because I forgot to pause
short gust
Oof.
My most embarrassing death was in Asphodel
I dashed to the boat and then hopped up to get something and my pinky toe was in the lava.
Came back to being dead and wasn't even in an encounter.
tired merlin
rip
gusty slate
Darn traps
tired merlin
been there
short gust
Oh god traps are the worst.
gusty slate
Yep same
short gust
How do spoiler tag?
pure barn
Yeah, traps suckk
gusty slate
Use || on both sides
tired merlin
you put || around what you want to spoiler
gusty slate
or highlight your message andna popup will appear
pure barn
Put || before and after the spoiler bits
gusty slate
|| message | |
tired merlin
yes
gusty slate
no space on second one
pure barn
Ye
short gust
Idk if this is really a spoiler or not but anyway. ||The Chaos Boon that gives you a bonus in exchange for like +500% trap damage has never once gotten picked by me.||
I inevitably am going to be standing in spikes no less than 10 times in the next encounter.
tired merlin
I pick the high damage traps now all the time because I finally learned how not to stand in them
pure barn
I would immediately die
gusty slate
500% eh? 5x25 wew arrows in Elysium hit hard
short gust
I literally take the one that says "You take damage when you attack" over that one.
And then just spam specials and casts lol
pure barn
I accidentally dash into spikes all the time and I've played the game ages
tired merlin
I'm mostly looking at the rewards but I can understand
short gust
Same here.
tired merlin
my specialty was standing int he spike traps
short gust
But say there's +80% attack on both of them
Traps are 100% worse
God my winning run I had power rush with shield with a crit build and was doing like 980 damage per crit to [redacted] lmao
pure barn
Lmao
tired merlin
nice
gusty slate
Once you get 4th aspect sword, big numbers are... heheh
pure barn
Hypnos really still can't recognise
gusty slate
Hypnos: 404 error
tired merlin
I lost out on 3 round of rewards because I accidentally jumped my heat level too high
pure barn
oof
short gust
If you skip a heat level do you never get those rewards?
short gust
So if you completed heat 5 would you then get 5 rewards at once?
tired merlin
so does it just double the rewards then?
gusty slate
so do heat 5 once, completes heat 0, do heat 5 again, heat 1, heat 5 again, heat 2
tired merlin
ooh
short gust
ew
gusty slate
completes next lowest uncomplete
short gust
That's like the second worst option.
tired merlin
that's not terrible because I still didn't be redacted on that run
so I'll have to go back and complete it again
pure barn
I kinda just vibe with whatever heat I'm feeling
short gust
It should give you the highest uncompleted heat. So if you complete 5, you should get 5, then 4, then 3....
tired merlin
I had lunlocked the final level of extreme measures
gusty slate
No skipping around here I guess
tired merlin
well I jumped from 6 to 10
gusty slate
The rewards I mean
tired merlin
and it says 7-9 are filled out for furies, hydra, and elysium
but I only picked up 1 diamond at the hydra
pure barn
You know Hades speedruns, how do the characters react since you've never even been to the main area and you've already killed ur dad, is that possible or do you have to die in the tutorial
🤔
livid yacht
Almost 100 runs in and I just noticed you can dash through the candles to extinguish them.
short gust
The dialogue in this game is so good.
pure barn
||Like "wow you've finally beat Hades after all this time"||
pure barn
It's been ten minutes Achilles what are you talking about
gusty slate
but Lad
short gust
I would be surprised if they don't actually add some special lines for that.
gusty slate
you finally did the deed
pure barn
Whoops sorry
tired merlin
my first win was run 80
pure barn
Mine was run 30 so 😎
gusty slate
I think someone said Zag has a unique line? Can't confirm though, 2 bad to win run 1 here
pure barn
Same
tired merlin
I only won with the sword once
short gust
Achilles after you win a run on your first try:
"Wait, what? You escaped, already? What was ||your mother|| like? How did you... Was my training that effective? Can I escape, too?"
gusty slate
Nyx: "wait you did what? here's the other side of the mirror"
This will help you win!
short gust
"I guess you didn't need the mirror, after all."
pure barn
Lmao
gusty slate
Cerberus: I broke the lounge for this?
short gust
Honestly just a handful of little lines like that would be amazing.
Oh my god Cerberus.
pure barn
I think maybe they could do something like that in an update 🤔
short gust
The few runs ||after he disappeared from the lounge, before I ran into him again|| made me so sad.
pure barn
Yeah ðŸ˜
gusty slate
Cerberus is the most shafted in this scenario, went on rampage to learn 10 minutes later it's all k
playing with the good boi's heart
short gust
Tbh if you made it there on run 1
I feel like ||cerberus shouldn't even be on the bridge||
gusty slate
good bois do their job
short gust
And something cheeky like ||Hades standing there saying "Bring me a satyr sack to fight me. Why? Because I said so, LAD."||
pure barn
😳
tired merlin
oh dang you can't share pics here
gusty slate
Can only share linked pics
pure barn
||Oh no please don't tell my murderous dad he might send me back to hell||
gusty slate
Olympians: Wait you were so close?
Olympians later: Here take this power, you'll need it!
pure barn
Hermes should say "wow cus, your fast" or something lol
pure barn
Skelly doesn't get to say anything
short gust
||"Good job, but uh... Aren't you going to beat on me a little before you kill him, next time?"||
pure barn
||does skelly have a pain kink||
short gust
Honestly, I would not be surprised.
This is the Greek Pantheon he cohorts with, after all.
pure barn
April fools turn all his dialogue to "ohhh zag"
gusty slate
Boyo~
pure barn
Skelly X these hands lmao
gusty slate
I have hijacked your imagination, mission complete
short gust
"Use the twin fists, boyo."
pure barn
I feel like I'm heard him say it
short gust
Zeus was the man who brought you minotaurs, centaurs and mermaids through his various... appetites.
Fists are barely even exotic to him.
pure barn
Zeus also couldn't keep it in his pants
short gust
And what makes you think Skelly... wears pants?
gusty slate
You see, Skelly is actually just magically changing his image
It's just Theseus' other life
short gust
Lmao. One of the DnD podcasts I listen to, one of the characters loved pants. For WHATEVER REASON, it became a staple of his character. He would literally be wearing like a dozen pairs of pants at once. He got cursed so he could never wear pants again. So he bought a belt that illusion magicked pants onto him.
pure barn
Wait so since skelly is immortal is he like a demigod or
I assume at one point he was a human
gusty slate
Skelly was once a daring adventurer
tired merlin
skelly is just dead I think
gusty slate
Skelly a ghost
oak shore
Plot twist Skeely is actually Herakles
tired merlin
and dying in hades when you're already dead doesn;t really o much to you
short gust
Tbh (actual spoilers for those who haven't yet had the conversation about who pays skelly to take a beating) ||Charon probably animated him.||
pure barn
Oh damn
tired merlin
oh that;s a good point
tired merlin
does he ever tell you his salary?
gusty slate
Don't think so, there are some questions he gets pretty defensive about however
pure barn
So does skelly just relax when you aren't there or is he constantly ready for a beatdown
short gust
||Pure hypothesis here: His tongue is a coin. Pretty sure his salary is getting to be animated/live||
tired merlin
I thought that was just the drachma they stick in you mouth to cross the styx when you die
gusty slate
I mean, I don't think he can truly relax per se, standing in aroom full of hungry infernal arms isn't well...
or he gets his kicks from that.
short gust
Gadzooks that could be it, but that would also imply that he came to the river as more than a Soul.
pure barn
Yeah
short gust
Because I don't think that the souls had that treatment.
austere jacinth
Skelly is the only person in the game more masochistic than Zag. We're all probably blessed not to know what he does in his spare time.
tired merlin
well when you died your family/whoever did your funeral rites would put a coin in your mouth to pay charon to cross the styx
short gust
"I stand in a literal dungeon surrounded by toys, boyo. How do you think I relax?"
muted pawn
||Hey, is there an option to disable the announcer at the end of a run? I already exhausted all dialogue options and it's starting to get a bit annoying||
tired merlin
if you didn't have the cash you couldn't cross and you had to stay in erebus
pure barn
Same
gusty slate
Don't think there is
short gust
Hmmm
muted pawn
Is there a way to give feedback somewhere? Maybe it could be added in a future patch
It's a fairly minor change after all
pure barn
Hmmmm
short gust
@muted pawn I was told that you can place feature requests in #h1-tech-support
gusty slate
Don't think feedback is being taken on stuff other than test branch stuff
austere jacinth
The devs are taking it kinda easy atm.
pure barn
I mean how their game blew up I would too
short gust
My problem is relatively minor - I use a keypad that has an analog stick on it, so my game constantly tries to switch back to a controller setup unless I'm actually moving my mouse.
gusty slate
They've also been working on Hades since... 2018?
Interesting, I know some people who use both a controller and mouse at the same time idk how they do it
short gust
Fine for 95% of the time, but when I've been charging shield bashes...
I've like turned 180 degrees and yeeted myself into lava
pure barn
Yimes
austere jacinth
I could not.
short gust
Don't look at the cost >>
gusty slate
gets curious
pure barn
Is it in that colour as well?
short gust
Mine's red and black, but otherwise yeah
pure barn
Ah
short gust
it's 3d printed and you can even get custom prints for a bit extra cash
pure barn
Damnnn
gusty slate
Interesting
pure barn
How much is it?
short gust
When I ordered mine I think it was roundabout $160 USD including shipping from Latvia.
gusty slate
Doesn't seem too bad
pure barn
I've never bought one
north pier
short gust
@north pier You kinda just get used to it. The "normal direction" keys are shift/ASD for reference.
Then the ones to the bottom are CTRL/ZXC, to the right is F, then up is Tab/QWE
pure barn
Yeah I use joycons/ pro controller
short gust
Then the ones up on the tower are preference, mine are like 12R34
The software also lets you bind to any other keys including controller keys so you can use it for a controller-only game without issue
pure barn
Sounds cool
short gust
@pure barn I've been using keypads since the belkin n52te came out because I'm a left-handed boyo but never got to learn to use a left handed mouse, and my stubborn ass can't be assed to learn now.
And Razer is about the only name in the game and every single razer product I've owned has failed within 2 years.
pure barn
oof
short gust
So I figured if I've thrown away $600 to Razer who has awful customer service, I might as well take a shot with some indie company.
pure barn
Yeah, I do that sometimes
short gust
I had the Belkin n52te, Razer Orbweaver, Razer Nostromo, Razer Tartarus (heh), Tartarus V2, Logitech G13, and now this thing.
So... Hoping it's the last one I have to buy for a long while, anyway.
The belkin was great and was the only one I had that hadn't failed by the time I stopped using it. I sadly sold it to a friend when I had got the Orbweaver because I didn't think I needed it anymore.
And the G13 was an ergonomic nightmare, in addition to one of the keys failing
pure barn
Lmao
short gust
(but for real tho physical keyboard flagship phone again when?)
pure barn
Oh hi
short gust
Or did someone else comment, delete and then leave?
pure barn
Nope
heavy breach
I just lost a death defiance by opening my boons menu while in magma and I despise my existence
pure barn
OOF
short gust
^ better than the run I lost standing 'on the boat' to the next chamber
I have been using the shield primarily but I like the Spear a lot
The blade is also not bad
pure barn
I really like the fists
short gust
I said this earlier but I decided I hate the fists because I haven't had RNG on my side since the very first run I had with them.
My starter boon was the hammer for +healing on special kills.
pure barn
Sometimes that just happenes with weapons tho
short gust
Proceeded to play super super sloppy and just uppercut everything through til the 4th world
pure barn
Like me and the bow do not get along
short gust
And now i've got "dash + special" ingrained into me lol
pure barn
oof
short gust
I also admittedly haven't actually tried the bow out of a sense of pointless self-pride.
Because I've heard a ton of people complain that the bow is OP
lol
pure barn
Idk if it's op
short gust
(Meanwhile I've used the Shield 90% of my runs because I think it's OP...)
austere jacinth
It's fun. -shrugs- See if you like it.
I've had most success with the Fists and the Rail.
short gust
yea I will eventually. Right now I'm trying to grind out and get a feel for what works well with the spear and finish a run with that.
pure barn
Although I only used the shield once because I kept dashing into lava and spikes
short gust
^
I have lost easily half my health on the first room of asphodel in like half of my shield runs
Because I forget and play super sloppy
short gust
The darkness healing thing helps a lot.
austere jacinth
I tend to play like Hyacinth's nightmare. Special murder frisbee time.
short gust
Seems to be a lot better than the +3 HP per room thing.
pure barn
Oh yeah it's good
brisk trail
does ||deadalus|| hammer overwrite
short gust
If nothing else it gives you 2 healing options out of treasure troves, charon and charon's well.
Hammer you can have 2 of them, one from Tartarus/Asphodel, one from Elysium
And then you can buy from a shop in the last world a -1 hammer, +2 hammers boon.
but it's pure random and can totally F your run over.
dapper mango
i play all the weapons and all aspects : D love them all tbh
brisk trail
it does?
dapper mango
the hardest to play seems guan something spear
short gust
I like Hades' Spear
@brisk trail I believe so, someone else can correct me if I'm wrong.
brisk trail
Valantha
dapper mango
love hades spear and all of the spears tbh
dapper mango
gotta play more of frost fair blade too
short gust
Kill half the room
dapper mango
yeah its nice
brisk trail
damn
heavy breach
||guan yu ||is incredibly stressful because I'm bad a not getting hit
short gust
yea I usually take the +75% undamaged if I'm running spear
Because that juicy first spin can oneshot a lot of non-elites
dapper mango
i guess its best to play quite agile with frost fair
short gust
Speaking of not geting hit... Anyone else play Risk of Rain and get super sad when they found out that Transcendence (no HP, all shield) doesn't actually register you as being at full health 24/7?
I can't remember what item cared if you were at full health and gave you benefits, but it didn't work AT ALL if you had the transcendence thing.
Then there were the skulls/moustache thing that did damage based off your max HP, and shot out based on how much you healed yourself over your max HP... So you'd yeet out 324902 skulls dealing 1 damage each.
Ahhh roguelikes.
austere jacinth
I've not really played many. I love Hades though.
short gust
Hades is definitely the only roguelike I've played that I would turn around and recommend to ANYONE, not just people who like roguelikes.
Slay the Spire is also good, but that requires either a love of roguelikes or a love of trading card games.
heavy breach
Hades is definitely the average gamer's roguelites
A big pet peeve I have with a lot of rogue lites is their obfuscation of information
I don't wanna have to open up the wiki everytime I visit an item room etc,
short gust
^ I think we're on the same page with that. I love how Hades' "Your run is over, start a new run" is all tied in to both the story and game mechanics in a meaningful way.
heavy breach
Hades' connection between story and game is great
short gust
So your 'new run, but better' doesn't feel arbitrary and driven by some outside force.
And yeah, Hades is really good with provided you all the info you need.
mellow pumice
short gust
The only things that I think need a bit more clarification at times are the hammers.
mellow pumice
hades has bouldy, enough said
high copper
love that bouldy!
heavy breach
It's why I like slay the spire too, you still have to figure stuff out but through thinking the game's mechanics through and not looking up a guide
high copper
big round friend
short gust
Like, 99% of the time "Attack" applies to anything you do with your left click.
But the "Your Attack hits twice" hammer augment for the shield only works for straight left click, not dash-click or charge-click.
austere jacinth
I love the characters and story more than anything else, but the gameplay is lively, fast and fun. Such variety in runs!
high copper
perfect character design, Bouldy’s
austere jacinth
Oh, the character design is just in-freakin-credible.
high copper
Bouldy and Kirby would be friends
heavy breach
Character that literally doesn't speak > most characters in gaming
high copper
two round smily lads
short gust
Charon has best character development ||Through Skelly||
Cerberus on that train too, Bradman
Especially when the Narrator describes what he's doing.
Wait.
gusty slate
Cerberus ponders why the prince is being weird again
short gust
Is Bouldy the name of Sisyphus' boulder? Does it have dialogue? Have I missed it, or has it just not come up yet?
raw mango
Yes. ||...||
heavy breach
Bouldy is love ,bouldy is life
austere jacinth
Bouldy is a true friend. Sisyphus knows what he did...
heavy breach
And we probably should've put spoiler tags, for ||bouldy|| /shrug
short gust
Bahaha.
gusty slate
there's an emote
short gust
I'm more just curious if it's a community meme or a real thing in game.
If it's a real thing in game, I will be sure to provide Sis with some extra nectar.
mellow pumice
Bouldy op
gusty slate
But do remember
heavy breach
||emote doesn't spoil the fact that it's a character you can have "dialogue" with||
gusty slate
we're all in a cult
raw mango
Like ||lernie||?
tired merlin
boudly believes in me and I believe in bouldy
heavy breach
Lernie is a very minor spoiler imo
mellow pumice
+3% damage
short gust
Bahahaha.
I'm still wondering which is which at the end of all this.
Alright, Sis, you aboutta get nectar drunk.
heavy breach
Imagine how ridiculous that would be
+3% damage from bouldy... how would that even work? ||/s||
short gust
Btw wasn't Sisyphus like an incredibly intelligent person in the real greek lore?
gusty slate
he's super smart here too isn't he?
short gust
Anyone else get a kind of "kronk stupid" vibe from him in this game?
Maybe I just haven't progressed his dialogue enough yet
austere jacinth
What do you mean?
gusty slate
I mean, he is keeping contrabrand from everyone
tired merlin
those are just his swoll muscles skewing your perception of him
austere jacinth
He's not stupid, he's simply accepted his place and become happy through that.
tired merlin
he is coping remarkable well with his punishment
gusty slate
He's just a mellow guy
tired merlin
slow cadence isn't indicative of intelligence
short gust
No, but it often is used to that effect
tired merlin
he's just chilled out after a long time
heavy breach
Super cheery attitude + Super swole usually are part of the big stupid happy dumb guy stereotype
austere jacinth
I never got the vibe that he was stupid.
runic lintel
Sisyphus is just vibing
tired merlin
I feel sgg subverts a lot of stereotypes when they make their characters
austere jacinth
He makes some ||comments about my partners that he shouldn't though.|| >.>
short gust
Might not hurt that my most recent non-active DnD character was a 20 wisdom 8 intelligence druid.
tired merlin
sis has like real strong life coach vibes
short gust
Who talked like sis
Constantly dropping wisdom bombs on people while not understanding what math was.
tired merlin
meg comments on that at some point
heavy breach
Zag's task is pretty much the definition of a Sisyphean task.
dude, I'm dumb, I didn't even think about that