||how do i fight the man||
@heady gulch don’t
#h1-discussion
thorny crescent
gusty slate
You know why Charon wears what he wears?
quaint hatch
"borrow"
heady gulch
borrow
thorny crescent
Now that I think about it
barren ocean
The fight has a prereq of i think ||Buying from his shop at least 100 times? So I heard, then you can see a bag of money at one of his mid level shops and "borrow" 300 coins which triggers the fight||
gusty slate
Really?
heady gulch
||cool||
thorny crescent
A Charon summon would be a nice addition in an update or something
dark root
I think there is
alpine fulcrum
It's just a more extreme version of what happens when you ||steal from a shopkeep in link's awakening||
barren ocean
I was told taht but i dont know how accruate it is
dark root
I've never seen the bag of money
thorny crescent
I think it isnt
gusty slate
I guess I should test on my new save
thorny crescent
I fought the lad pretty early on
gusty slate
Could've sworn it's just rng
dark root
It's just a more extreme version of what happens when you ||steal from a shopkeep in link's awakening||
Nah
heady gulch
||i am at hades fight with no death defiances but with 335 HP||
thorny crescent
||it’s like pissing off the shopkeeper in spelunky|| but on steroids
barren ocean
Good luck @heady gulch
austere jacinth
He is the best shopkeeper in any game. He's just cool.
gusty slate
I don't remember a thing from mystery dungeon
thorny crescent
He really is
gusty slate
OH
barren ocean
Ye
austere jacinth
He is a beautiful, kind, and well spoken man.
barren ocean
cause it was traumatizing
and i was 12
XD
biggest mistake of my early gaming career
quaint hatch
Same
barren ocean
On another note, i cannot wait for cross platform to come out eventually
Having the larger screen will be nice since i dont have a tv for my switch
XD
heady gulch
died
barren ocean
Aww
barren ocean
WAIT I CAN DO THAT? @quaint hatch
heady gulch
what a bruh moment
gusty slate
Should be?
heady gulch
barren ocean
Does this also mean i can stream this way 
gusty slate
ah hdmi
thorny crescent
I love how when you learn more about Charon you get that he’s quite sophisticated for a person who’s vocabulary consists of the word “hnnnngngngnghhhhh”
barren ocean
XDD
gusty slate
We're just uneducated
quaint hatch
Well why wouldn't you be able to
barren ocean
Zag understands him
quaint hatch
Hdmi is hdmi
barren ocean
fair
devout bison
hello everyone, where i go to report a bug ?
quaint hatch
F10
barren ocean
gusty slate
or #h1-tech-support for switch
thorny crescent
barren ocean
heady gulch
i like the trader shade
devout bison
ok thx
thorny crescent
We should be able to give nectar to all of the above
The chef,the trader and the fan
Possible romance options
I need it
gusty slate
may need to alt-tab to bug reporter if f10
austere jacinth
I love how when you learn more about Charon you get that he’s quite sophisticated for a person who’s vocabulary consists of the word “hnnnngngngnghhhhh”
@thorny crescent He is very eloquent indeed.
gusty slate
Boyo
heady gulch
screw getting a date
heady gulch
b a s e d
quaint hatch
Just a quick tip
Get some of the gods relationships up as well
gusty slate
get everyone up there tbh, all bonds 
quaint hatch
Working on that
Damn dusa
Why is her questlines finish so finicky
heady gulch
and le chef
quaint hatch
Shef
gusty slate
I finished most characters' by accident lel
heady gulch
ive been giving skele alot of nectar
quaint hatch
Yeah same but the ones I didn't were hard to figure
gusty slate
Ares is still most amusing, "I need x" Me: I already did x years ago!
heady gulch
cause he deserves it for being a absolute chad
thorny crescent
I maxed out my relationship with Charon
His keepsake sucks but you know what
it’s worth every bottle of nectar
heady gulch
bruh, dusa was near the chef and i was near chef and it said the nectar bottle thing
so i thought
gusty slate
Chef is loaded
heady gulch
"I CAN GIVE NECTAR TO CHEF LETS GOOOO"
gusty slate
that cabinet is infinite storage
heady gulch
but gave it to dusa instead and now im mad
tepid plover
Why are you mad
thorny crescent
Dusa is the best
tepid plover
FYI, you cant give nectar to chef
heady gulch
lucky tooth epic
thorny crescent
lucky tooth is a good keepsake
heady gulch
also harpy feather duster looks good
austere jacinth
Dusa is pretty cool.
rocky hearth
Hypnos keepsake ftw
thorny crescent
True
quaint hatch
Acorn>tooth
thorny crescent
Acorn is great
heady gulch
what is acorn i want acorn
thorny crescent
Purse is great
tepid plover
Vo1di, I've come to the realization, tooth is better than acorn if you have quick recovery
quaint hatch
Acorn is like better tooth
opal onyx
I would like to have the hades stickers in whatsapp, is there any way?
thorny crescent
what is acorn i want acorn
@heady gulch give nectar to Eurydice
quaint hatch
Acorn absorbs more damage
tepid plover
Mmhm
tepid plover
rocky hearth
heady gulch
skelly wants me to game end him to get him out of the room with weapons 
quaint hatch
||Kill him forever||
quaint hatch
Shh
heady gulch
ok
heady gulch
ok sorry
gusty slate
short gust
Is the tech-support channel the right place to make a suggestion to Supergiant?
quaint hatch
@tepid plover ||isn't killing Skelly with sword zag aspect a spoiler???||
Nope it's for bugs
tepid plover
No if you dont say why exactly you're killing him
tepid plover
Usually wrong
short gust
Any idea where the correct place would be? I have an issue with my particular setup and the fix seems relatively trivial.. so I just hope I can get it in the right place.
short gust
If you check out the tech-support channel you can see it; it's somewhere between a request and an issue.
Haha
tepid plover
if you already posted it just wait
thorn tendon
It's still weird to me that there's not a Greek translation of this game, but I guess Greek isn't a terribly common language or anything
(as in, afaik, it's only spoken in Greece, so, not a terribly urgent market to get to)
quaint hatch
Same as having a latin translation for a game
tepid plover
Thats debatable
quaint hatch
Not in the way imp wants it
fathom flume
Which channel can I use to provide feedback for the devs ?
tepid plover
This one
barren ocean
XD
karmic oasis
I mean, Imp hasnt said which one, I imagine he means modern, but I don't know if theres a market for it or if greek speakers are typically multilingual
tepid plover
They got rid of feedback channel after early access ended
barren ocean
^
karmic oasis
THE GAME IS PERFECT, NO CRITICISM
tepid plover
Lmfao
barren ocean
I have one, why cant i pet all 3 cerb heads
tepid plover
Its very close to being perfect
I have one, why cant i pet all 3 cerb heads
Cause he doesnt like it
The others heads dont like it
barren ocean
oh sad
tepid plover
They explained it in game
carmine ravine
u cant romance everyone therefore not perfect, and theres no open world
barren ocean
lmao
tepid plover
I dont wanna romance persephone
tired merlin
I wish I could romance hypnos
karmic oasis
procedurally generated open world roguelite
tepid plover
dark root
I also don't want to romance Hades
karmic oasis
sign me up for that nightmare
thorny crescent
I wanna romance Charon
tepid plover
Get some sweets deals
austere jacinth
I love the romances we got, but poor Hypnos has no one to hang with. Maybe I could set him up with someone? xDD
thorny crescent
he can “hnggghhhhhhhhhh” me all he wants
tired merlin
you want to ||get between him and hermes?||
tepid plover
Totally a quick drive
quaint hatch
austere jacinth
And Charon has ||Hermes||, who matches him well.
tepid plover
austere jacinth
Hades spinoff with Zag as couples counsellor.
tepid plover
Love guru
austere jacinth
||Hermes is the god of trade. He has more money.||
tired merlin
I'd play that
carmine ravine
i just wanna romance my cousins man
tepid plover
Hermes doesn't need money
thorny crescent
||Hermes is the god of trade. He has more money.||
@austere jacinth well where’s the proof that Charon gets his share?
tired merlin
I made dio cry tears of pride when I was running around with 14 bottles of ambrosia
tepid plover
tired merlin
I just want to party with dio
austere jacinth
||Charon's huge piles of money.||
And Styx, you could mean a LOT of dudes there.
carmine ravine
i made aphrodite call me a disciple of love after i bonded with everyone
dark root
lol
tired merlin
I still can't get hypnos' affinity guage to unlock for me
gusty slate
lots of rng dialogue
tepid plover
^
austere jacinth
And you need Than to play ball.
tired merlin
I'm waiting for than to ineract with him at the point
but he's alwas by the balcony
not that I mind
fathom flume
Great, it's to do with satyr sacks and tight deadlines, it's getting old having to redo entire 32-50 heat runs based on pure uncontrollable RNG, can we just get something done for that ? Like a failsafe at the third chamber ? It just isn't fun, rng is part of every roguelikes but you should be able to deal with the cards you are dealt, satyr sacks just says "No" to your really good run and makes EM4 [Redacted] undoable without any way to control it, it's way too frustrating, especially when it happens 4 runs in a row.
( Also Thanatos sometimes get stuck doing rounds and is also annoying on tight deadlines, this doesn't happen often but still, it's a bug so might as well report it while I'm at it )
austere jacinth
Than wants to do ANYTHING but talk to his bro, so you gotta exhaust him a bit.
thorny crescent
Get this.
A Hades spin-off that’s just a dating sim and nothing else
quaint hatch
That's just hades
tepid plover
Theres a mod for multiple sacks i believe
gusty slate
TD used to be much worse
quaint hatch
Satyr luck is everything
thorny crescent
That's just hades
@quaint hatch you’re not wrong
quaint hatch
But?
fathom flume
Yea, but you can deal with the other rng side, you can still scrap a build with poor boons for exemple
carmine ravine
its like omelete tbh
tepid plover
The game still needs rng, is a roguelike
fathom flume
It needs good rng
quaint hatch
That's the nature of it
fathom flume
Currently satyr sack is not, imo
tepid plover
If its good always isnt rng
quaint hatch
Rng is neither good nor bad
gusty slate
flashbacks to when TD didn't stack and was per world
tired merlin
I mean I denounced rng as a fakse god once and my luck has been awful ever since
dark root
We can't say something is random if its always bad or if its always good
tepid plover
Again, pretty sure there is a mod for multiple sacks
carmine ravine
the hidden god that controlling ur runs all along is ||rngesus||
sharp fossil
i mean, pre 1.0 TD2 was easier than current TD3
gusty slate
fair
quaint hatch
Input luck feels awful but it's part of games ig
tepid plover
the hidden god that controlling ur runs all along is ||rngesus||
You mean the fates
thorny crescent
the hidden god that controlling ur runs all along is ||rngesus||
rngesus boons when
tepid plover
Yeah you cant control whats not meant to be controlled
sharp fossil
but current TD3 just feels so much better
dark root
I'd get a boon from rngesus
sharp fossil
even if you have less time
thorn tendon
@quaint hatch you completely misinterpreted what I said
carmine ravine
im good, bad bot
austere jacinth
I mean, the Fates do help you a little with the last mirror boons.
thorn tendon
I meant a modern Greek translation
tepid plover
Correct
dark root
The fates, my homies hate the fates
quaint hatch
I tend to
tepid plover
The fates hate your homies
tired merlin
the fates are cool
thorn tendon
Greek is a language that's very much alive and the modern Greek people do take a lot of pride in their myths , legends, and history
fathom flume
Like I said, it's not about RNG being good or bad, more on how you shouldn't be completely screwed over, just because it's a roguelike means it need a death sentence on your run you can't do anything about, like I said, chamber rewards, boon, events, etc, all of this you can mangae to deal with
tepid plover
The fates do everything
gusty slate
Problem is the sack thing has been put in feedback for ages
carmine ravine
oh yeah? does the fates birthed themselves?
thorn tendon
And I think it's a shame that the game isn't as accessible to the descendants of the civilization that originated these myths
tepid plover
People can do all 5 rooms and still have plenty time with tight deadline
gusty slate
SGG seems firm on their sack rng
quaint hatch
Like I said, it's not about RNG being good or bad, more on how you shouldn't be completely screwed over, just because it's a roguelike means it need a death sentence on your run you can't do anything about, like I said, chamber rewards, boon, events, etc, all of this you can mangae to deal with
@fathom flume every roguelikes is like that
Most of the times even worse
tepid plover
^
quaint hatch
Isaac f.e.
fathom flume
That's factually wrong tho
austere jacinth
I agree on that. However, SGG is a small team and access to a good translator might be tricky.
tepid plover
Hades gives a lot fo freedom compared to other roguelikes
sharp fossil
^
quaint hatch
You can't even make it past the first floor ig the game decides to give you shet
fathom flume
Isaac doesn't have reoccurring death sentence
quaint hatch
It has
dark root
I remember some awful rng with Dead Cells
tepid plover
You can always turn off tight deadline if you're struggling with it
carmine ravine
too much freedom tbh, u can even choose the penalties
austere jacinth
I'd be very happy to see the Greeks get a translation down the line though. There's no reason why they shouldn't. Beyond availability of resources.
quaint hatch
And the thing with isaac us it can happen anytime
fathom flume
I have 1k hours on the game and i have yet to see one I didn't purposely put myself into
carmine ravine
like choosing to use GY in the first place
thorn tendon
Yeah, which is why I find it understandable. Greek isn't a very commonly spoken language, and a translation wouldn't bring in a lot of money for SGG or any of the platforms Hades is on. But it would be nice to see.
tepid plover
If yiure struggling with tight deadline, try turning it off
thorny crescent
Hades is actually a very,very fair roguelike in comparison to like Isaac or throne or even spelunky
quaint hatch
After 1k hours you're bound to be less reliant on the rng the game throws at you
The same will be with hades
tepid plover
You get to pick which room to go, which boon to pick, which penalty to have
austere jacinth
Hades is more than fair. It's downright generous for a roguelike.
dark root
rng can be awful on any game
quaint hatch
So if you measure you should measure equally
tepid plover
No one is forcing you to use tight deadline
carmine ravine
wdym i choose the room to go to, its one door
thorn tendon
I'd want a damn good translator though, and one also familiar with classical Greek, namely with translating classical Greek into modern Greek, to get in the right mythological / historical in-jokes and references
gusty slate
Although for 32-50 heat yeah that's a hard game
quaint hatch
After 1k hours td3 will be less hard for you
fathom flume
Yes, those are not death sentence, you can still do something against it ? I fail to see your point, satyr luck is irreversible and unchangeable, having poor items on Isaac is not really comparable with Satyr sack
quaint hatch
Obvsl
thorn tendon
Which again! Hard. But maybe someday :)
fathom flume
I kinda need tight deadlines if I want high heat lol
quaint hatch
I think your just trying to blame something too hard
Get practice in
tepid plover
32-50 heat is MEANT to be hard
gusty slate
eh...
tepid plover
Not ez
quaint hatch
Then it won't be a problem
tepid plover
Rng might be hard
tepid plover
Rng can be hard or good
quaint hatch
Usually you won't need more than 30 second oer styx room
fathom flume
And please.. Don't get patronizing with me
tepid plover
?
gusty slate
SGG fought to keep their sack rng though, they even changed TD to what it is today 
quaint hatch
Please don't get patronizing with us the
tepid plover
If its always good. Isnt rng
fathom flume
I just pointed a flaw of the game lmao
tepid plover
Isnt a flaw
carmine ravine
cmon guys, git gud
tepid plover
Lol
fathom flume
Cmon
quaint hatch
The problem is when we apply the same to isaac you measure differently
Because of your experience
fathom flume
Because it's not the same what
austere jacinth
RNG isn't a flaw. It's a design feature. It's present in most games, and is right at the forefront of the roguelike genre.
gusty slate
Has there been a lot of sack complaints over in high heat?
quaint hatch
And seem to disregard your experience makes the rng less hard on you
tepid plover
You struggling with rng isnt a flaw
quaint hatch
Satyr sacks is even less bad than item lucks
tepid plover
^
zenith adder
the world is rng
quaint hatch
Ok let's compare it to getting the right boss, angel and devil rooms
fathom flume
It can literally screw over your run on tight deadlines
zenith adder
i jk ijk
tepid plover
Then turn it off
fathom flume
How is that better than having poor items
quaint hatch
On TD3 maybe
carmine ravine
20% for a sack is pretty generous, it just shortens the whole biome like a lot
tepid plover
After heat 20, there are no bounties, if you're playing heat 50, is because you want to
austere jacinth
It's actually 25% isn't it? You can't get the sack from the first chamber, so it's a 1/4 chance for the others, right?
quaint hatch
That's the nature of TD3
tepid plover
Turn it down a bit
zenith adder
50 wtf
fathom flume
Like
dark root
50 heat
carmine ravine
if u playing heat 50 all the time, ur a masochist so dont blame the game
gusty slate
@fathom flume you might have a better discussion over in #h1-high-heat-strategies ?
fathom flume
I fail to see how putting a failsafe on satyr luck on TD3 is something you guys don't want
zenith adder
lmao
tepid plover
Lmfao facts
quaint hatch
Failsafe?
tepid plover
Is something we dont need
tepid plover
Lmfao
quaint hatch
There are way worse things
If you're build good you need like at most 30-45 seconds per styx encounter
carmine ravine
what if u dont found the sack in all 5 rooms? do u just get dissapointed and went home?
gusty slate
Yes that's me
austere jacinth
Poor, hungry dog T.T
gusty slate
I jump into River Styx
quaint hatch
austere jacinth
'Charon, mate... just take me back.' xDD
tepid plover
I'm just failing to see how you're picking to play in heat 50, completely up to you, theres no bounty after 20, then pointing it as being a flaw a lmao
Just turn it down a bit
Turn off tight deadline
quaint hatch
I mean playing in such high heat is supposed to be hell lol
tepid plover
^
carmine ravine
and getting the timer run out is not a death sentence by itself, it does poison you tho
quaint hatch
Only reward is your pride
quaint hatch
And bragging rights ig
quaint hatch
And it's nothing bad to have a problem with something
austere jacinth
Yeah, the game itself wasn't designed to be 'finished' through heat levels.
gusty slate
Getting sacked does suck though
quaint hatch
I guess we're spoiled in hades
fathom flume
The point flying above your heads eh
gusty slate
I just don't know what we can do here though, as I said SGG has been very firm with their sack rng
carmine ravine
sacked some sacks to get sacked
tepid plover
You get so much freedom, people struggle when there's actual rng
quaint hatch
The point flying above your heads eh
@fathom flume maybe you'll get it to us better if you stop being patronizing
tepid plover
I just dont think you have a point at all
Youre just complaining cause you can't beat the game
gusty slate
Merry has a point that was brought up pre-1.0
fathom flume
I fail to see how I can explain it better when you both bring out unrelated things
quaint hatch
Idk complete randomness feels awful I can get behind that
carmine ravine
the point being, he thought the rooms rng stuff is bad design, which is not
oak shore
Why are people arguing can't we all just share a nectar and be friends ;_;
austere jacinth
Perhaps it has gone over my head, because I really don't understand the fundamental problem here.
tepid plover
Damn bro, I cant do this extremely hard challenge i put on myself, thanks to some rng that was there to begin with
quaint hatch
Hot take but maybe if a lot of people on the discord tell you otherwise
It could be because your take on the situation is not healthy
carmine ravine
6?
tepid plover
Well thats more than 1
fathom flume
sigh
oak shore
Merry here 
quaint hatch
Look if you got something to say and we don't get it
austere jacinth
I still don't get the problem.
tepid plover
I dont mean to be rude or anything, but it seems like the solution here is to git gud
quaint hatch
Instead of sighing
Maybe lay it out differently
gusty slate
I don't have anything greater than , I haven't beaten area 3 on discord @oak shore
fathom flume
I still fail to see your point, how is having a better chance at finding sack only on TD3 a bad thing ?
austere jacinth
That level is super hard, poke.
carmine ravine
theres the thing, theres no amrosia emote to use
tepid plover
I'm failing to see your point too
gusty slate
I know,
austere jacinth
T.T
gusty slate
I keep finding this beetle that one shots me
oak shore
Wait is that a thing
gusty slate
it's pretty redic
fathom flume
Because I'm tired of resetting high heat runs over uncontrollable things
tepid plover
Theres a chance to find sack in room 2, youre just unlucky
quaint hatch
I still fail to see your point, how is having a better chance at finding sack only on TD3 a bad thing ?
@fathom flume my point is you're problem seems kind of ill fated to me
austere jacinth
We're not gods or heroes. No ambrosia for us. T.T
quaint hatch
And you never reset isaac runs? I know hard comparison
Maybe after 1k hours you don't
quiet gull
Because I'm tired of resetting high heat runs over uncontrollable things
@fathom flume Welcome to RNG
This is how games work
quaint hatch
It's getting faster at clearing the previous levels
Then sack rng won't be as much of a problem
carmine ravine
I still fail to see your point, how is having a better chance at finding sack only on TD3 a bad thing ?
@fathom flume the point they trying to tell you the rates is fine, even if its conveniences you, you probably just werent up for the challenge itself
oak shore
@fathom flume does a 5-room Styx genuinely make it impossible to finish a run?
gusty slate
Can be yeah
dark root
Not impossible
oak shore
This isn't me attacking you I just don't really play high heats
gusty slate
5 sack will end a very high heat run, Redacted is mean
dark root
If you play on 50 heat already, don't expect a run to be easy
oak shore
Like, in any given situation where a 5-room Styx could screw you over, wouldn't doing other bits faster afford you the necessary time?
austere jacinth
I mean, congrats on getting to 50 heat
gusty slate
I get the frustration, you get that far to be guillotined, but SGG is super firm on their sack rng
fathom flume
Again, I have never had a problem with RNG, I don't feel like, for exemple, finding bad booms, no synergy, tough rooms, etc This is fine RNG, because you can pull through it
5 room Sacks, can, and will ruin a run that isn't godlike, you can't do anything about it, you don't have a chance at coutnering it That's not engaging rng
dark root
You'll get more screwed over
fathom flume
Is it better layed out like this ?
carmine ravine
I mean, congrats on getting to 50 heat
@austere jacinth u know that the rewards stops at 20 right
oak shore
I get what Merry means tbh
quiet gull
So you only like RNG when it makes runs easier, but not when it makes runs hard? Okay
oak shore
If you've managed to make it to Styx at 50 heat you've already put in a lot of effort
tepid plover
Cause you can still get it in room 2
quaint hatch
Is it better layed out like this ?
@fathom flume yep and as we said: 5 sack on TD3 is really really hard to get but not impossible you need to have a good run and improve
Additionally the chances for that are not very high
fathom flume
"So you only like RNG when it makes runs easier, but not when it makes runs hard? Okay
"
Where did I say that lmao that's literally a disingenuous argument
carmine ravine
merry just thinks its too hard guys, shill out
austere jacinth
@austere jacinth u know that the rewards stops at 20 right
@carmine ravine Yep. But some people want a challenge. And if they succeed, good for them, you know?
tepid plover
Yeah it just sounds liek you're struggling. Which is fine for 50 heat really
carmine ravine
you can go 50 heat in the first place with hell mode, doesnt mean u can win it easily though
tepid plover
Not really the games fault
quiet gull
If TD3 is too much of a problem at 50 heat, there is a solution right there. Turn TD down and something else up
That's it
fathom flume
Alright
gusty slate
pickings are slim up there
fathom flume
Let's try a comparison then
tepid plover
Theres no game reward difference between, 50 heat and 40
quaint hatch
You're basically arguing playing dark souls with a diner and steering wheel is too hard
austere jacinth
High Heat is very definitely a post-game mess-around time. It's not 'core gameplay' like weapons or boons or whatever.
gusty slate
but the numbers mason
quaint hatch
I mean it is
tepid plover
My best guess is go to the hades modding discord and ask for a failsafe mod
quaint hatch
But again you don't have to
carmine ravine
i have a solution for u guys : ||TD4
||
tepid plover
^
oak shore
I was kinda joking with the nectar stuff earlier but I legit think this conversation isn't gonna go anywhere with people at each other's throats like this ;_;
tepid plover
No one is forcing you to play at 50 heat
safe smelt
Hi! I haven't played the game yet, haven't bought it in fact, but I'm super excited to finnaly get this game! Been aiming to get it for a long time!
I just have one question regarding the Switch release: the game is not available in the Nintendo E-Shop of my region (the Brazillian Switch E-Shop). Are there plans for it to be released there? If so, when can I expect it? Sorry for the obtuse question, but I'm very excited and I'm looking forward to finnaly getting the game!!
tepid plover
If it's too much, turn it down
gusty slate
Oh really?
quaint hatch
I was kinda joking with the nectar stuff earlier but I legit think this conversation isn't gonna go anywhere with people at each other's throats like this ;_;
@oak shore wise guy
Have some nectar
oak shore
TD4: ten seconds per floor make it work
tepid plover
10 seconds per chamber
quaint hatch
Hi! I haven't played the game yet, haven't bought it in fact, but I'm super excited to finnaly get this game! Been aiming to get it for a long time!
I just have one question regarding the Switch release: the game is not available in the Nintendo E-Shop of my region (the Brazillian Switch E-Shop). Are there plans for it to be released there? If so, when can I expect it? Sorry for the obtuse question, but I'm very excited and I'm looking forward to finnaly getting the game!!
@safe smelt you could also make an account for a different region and get it that way
safe smelt
Should that question go to Localization?
carmine ravine
TD5 instead, 1 min per biome
gusty slate
I'm not sure tbh
safe smelt
Yeah, but that feels like foul play xD
austere jacinth
Hi! I haven't played the game yet, haven't bought it in fact, but I'm super excited to finnaly get this game! Been aiming to get it for a long time!
I just have one questionr egarding the Switch release: the game is not available in the Nintendo E-Shop of my region (the Brazillian Switch E-Shop). Are there plans for it to be released there? If so, when can I expect it? Sorry for the obtuse question, but I'm very excited and I'm looking forward to finnaly getting the game!!
@safe smelt I'm honestly not sure. I hope so. The more people who can play this game the better!
oak shore
(X seconds per chamber actually sounds fun)
tepid plover
^^
quaint hatch
Yeah, but that feels like foul play xD
@safe smelt as long as you get your fun ;D
carmine ravine
we have that, it caled speedruns
austere jacinth
I would just cry. I think my fastest is like 21 mins? xDD
fathom flume
Imma just give up on that conversation, obviously nobody is going to change opinion on that
carmine ravine
i suggest we add a skip styx button for TD5 then
tepid plover
Why do you want us to change opinions tho
gusty slate
localization channel is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Big brain move is to report it as a bug in #h1-tech-support
quaint hatch
Imma just give up on that conversation, obviously nobody is going to change opinion on that
@fathom flume maybe don't try to blame it in the game
gusty slate
well maybe not big brain, but a response should be given from iether channel
tepid plover
Turn down tight deadline, it seems like is too much for you
fathom flume
Yea, that was my mistake, criticizing a game on the game's official discord, critiques are illegal
oak shore
@fathom flume I think most of the people here empathise with your frustration tbh - it's always annoying in roguelikes to lose through no fault of your own
tepid plover
Isnt illegal
We just didn't tell you what you wanted yo hear
I'm sorry
Thats just life
quaint hatch
Yea, that was my mistake, criticizing a game on the game's official discord, critiques are illegal
@fathom flume I didn't say critiquing the game is wrong
I'm saying maybe the problem lies within yourself
gusty slate
It was feedback to be changed pre 1.0, but idk what happened to those complaints
quiet gull
@safe smelt There is no downside to making a nintendo account from another region so you can access games. I have USA and Japan region accounts for those games
oak shore
@Merry But since the highest heats are totally optional, it feels to me like part of the point is the masochism of letting the game screw you over
tepid plover
^^^^
quaint hatch
^
tepid plover
Turn it down
quaint hatch
Turn something else up
tepid plover
No one is forcing you to play at 50 heat
quaint hatch
Get better
Return
oak shore
This is as someone who hasn't played past like heat 12 though, so I might be missing something
carmine ravine
the consensus is clear, u got the unpopular opinion on the game's design, so yeah they probably wont change their perspective by personal accounts of ur 50 heat runs @fathom flume
dark root
You know
oak shore
No guys be nice hang on
quaint hatch
And then show hades that you don't care about td3
tepid plover
No twonk you totally have a point
gusty slate
Geez
tepid plover
After heat 20, playing g any higher is up to you
oak shore
dark root
Criticizing the game on the official discord isn't the problm
gusty slate
Dionysus isn't providing?
fathom flume
I have a fair dose of experience interacting with game communities of really good games, no matter how well founded a critique is, some people will still feel like they need to prevent that aspect from being a bit more tolerable, even if it doesn't concern them, imo that's what's happening here, you lads don't deal with those runs, you will probably never do, and ya still wanna butt in
gusty slate
isn't he loaded
tepid plover
raw lantern
im having trouble with 6 heat
carmine ravine
how did u going to give that emotes to me, i dont even have a nitro
tepid plover
I just dont think the critique was well founded in this case
gusty slate
only one, comon Dionysus my man...
quiet gull
TBF the heat system isnt perfect, since combinations of options are much, MUCH harder than others. In this case, TD can get really brutal later on, and is worth much more ehat" than it lets in on
gusty slate
Aren't we pals
quaint hatch
I have a fair dose of experience interacting with game communities of really good games, no matter how well founded a critique is, some people will still feel like they need to prevent that aspect from being a bit more tolerable, even if it doesn't concern them, imo that's what's happening here, you lads don't deal with those runs, you will probably never do, and ya still wanna butt in
@fathom flume bold assumption
fathom flume
Ever done a 50 heat run then ?
tepid plover
And if you always have a problem in all the communities, maybe the problem is with you
oak shore
Guys hang on let's keep being nice
tepid plover
I have 0 intentions of doing 50 heat because thats too hard
quaint hatch
If you're feeling our opinions aren't worth it because we're "not in your level" then go to #h1-high-heat-strategies
fathom flume
I never said I did, I said I have experience being IN said communities
dark root
Then why are you ranting to those lowlifes that haven't ever done a 50 heat run
carmine ravine
I have a fair dose of experience interacting with game communities of really good games, no matter how well founded a critique is, some people will still feel like they need to prevent that aspect from being a bit more tolerable, even if it doesn't concern them, imo that's what's happening here, you lads don't deal with those runs, you will probably never do, and ya still wanna butt in
@fathom flume its a bold assumption and even if it was true, there is a channel for that called #h1-high-heat-strategies
fathom flume
that's literally not the point
raw lantern
me a lowlife?
quiet gull
Merry, you're assuming the devs intend 50 heat runs to be completable every single time, which does not seem to be the case.
raw lantern
gusty slate
I'm a lowlife
quaint hatch
You just said we're to bad for you
gusty slate
Alecto agrees
dark root
You said that we wanted to butt in
tepid plover
Mb
quaint hatch
Go to #h1-high-heat-strategies
fathom flume
Would you tell a butcher that is way of butchering a lamb is worng when you've never done it yourself ?
dark root
So, why here
safe smelt
I just wanted to know if I can get it the easy way xD Don't like having multiple accounts
tepid plover
Darn boys, our opinion in the game is invalidad because we suck at the game
austere jacinth
I doubt I'll ever try 50 Heat. It seems excessive. I'm VERY happy the achievements stop at 16, and rewards at 20. That seems more reasonable to me. I wouldn't say no to more modifiers that change gameplay though. Stuff like the oft-discussed 'alternate bosses' (Herakles!) and the like!
tepid plover
^
quaint hatch
Would you tell a butcher that is way of butchering a lamb is worng when you've never done it yourself ?
@fathom flume people can still do something obvious wrong without you being in the field
fathom flume
"Merry, you're assuming the devs intend 50 heat runs to be completable every single time, which does not seem to be the case." again never said that
dark root
Would you tell a butcher that is way of butchering a lamb is worng when you've never done it yourself ?
Will you tell a developer that your RNG is bad when you haven't made a game?
quaint hatch
Why are we going to whataboutism now?
dark root
Assuming you haven't
carmine ravine
if u discuss about that here, then u agree on discussing on casual players of the game, u cant throw them around the bus and consider their own opinion invalid, just bcoz they dont agree with ur tamper tantrum
dark root
Of course
gusty slate
Merry, what are your thoughts on SGG being firm on their sack rng?
gusty slate
I think I saw that failsafe feedback all the way back in March
fathom flume
That's the only reason I'm here
quaint hatch
@fathom flume please go to #h1-high-heat-strategies
This is leading nowhere and you may have some people more "on par with your skill"
quiet gull
I suggest going to the high heat strat channel and git gud
carmine ravine
now we asked to change channels and ur refused
austere jacinth
Yeah, that's a good point. The high heat guys may have some different opinions than us lowbie-slobs xDD
gusty slate
Although SGG isn't taking feedback atm, gotta wait until their break to see if they will work on things more
quaint hatch
Guys I know I have a huge problem with it also
But please try to not be too unfriendly
fathom flume
"Merry, what are your thoughts on SGG being firm on their sack rng?" I think rng sacks are fine for casual runs, TD3 needs a failsafe tho IMO
austere jacinth
Delicious nectar~
quaint hatch
Maybe just get better
No front
gusty slate
Hm
quaint hatch
Not meaning to be rude
gusty slate
Keep that feedback until SGG decides if they want to work on it more
carmine ravine
they did take feedback in #test-branch-discussion though, (he doesnt know that) @gusty slate
gusty slate
but that's on test branch changes tho?
didn't know they were taking general feedback
carmine ravine
yeah which bring changes and stuff
sharp fossil
TD3 isn’t hard countered by bad sack rng
it only becomes a problem when a bunch of other heat is in the mix
quiet gull
"Merry, what are your thoughts on SGG being firm on their sack rng?" I think rng sacks are fine for casual runs, TD3 needs a failsafe tho IMO
@fathom flume But TD3 is fine with 5sacks.... at most heat levels. Just not 50
sharp fossil
^
gusty slate
There is a slight disconnect between the heats yeah, most people don't go up that high so it doesn't et as much love
carmine ravine
basically making the game easier for the whole system will just undermine the engagement factor in the first plac esince its too easy
gusty slate
It's a bit hard to balance around though, since the heat disconnect
sharp fossil
yeah the people dealing with TD3 5 sacks at 50 number like... less than 10?
gusty slate
I figure TD3 generally speaking doesn't have the sack issue as everyone has said
carmine ravine
no tree lady here
fathom flume
"Keep that feedback until SGG decides if they want to work on it more"
I will, like I said earlier, I feel like it'll be more constructive to see the point of a dev rather than having people tell me to "Play better" or that "it's fine" when they haven't been in that situation.
Reminds of DS and Sorcery, FromSoft made sorcery better and people who already completed the game without using sorcery butted in saying "It was wrong" etc
quiet gull
Twonk is the hero we need, but don't deserve. You go Twonk
quaint hatch
I think you're fighting a lost cause @oak shore
carmine ravine
artemis simps only
quaint hatch
Still appreciate you tho
oak shore
It ain't over til it's over
gusty slate
we're a cult
quaint hatch
cloud apex
Maybe just get better
No front
Mmm, the problem is that getting better really can't fix having to deal with 20-smth chambers and final boss in 5 minutes, when you could just get lucky for 6-7 chambers
austere jacinth
Hermes and Ares ❤️ Best Olympians, Alpha 😛
oak shore
If Merry feels this strongly about the game, and at 50 heat (!!), they've probably got a lot of love for it
carmine ravine
you know whats worse than a cult? a ||discord server||
tepid plover
You cant control luck
fathom flume
"Do you have any characters you really like @fathom flume "
Huum, Dionysus is a lad of utmost quality
quiet gull
If Merry feels this strongly about the game, and at 50 heat (!!), they've probably got a lot of love for it
@oak shore I dont think anyone here is disputing that
austere jacinth
Dionysus is quality, yes
quaint hatch
"Keep that feedback until SGG decides if they want to work on it more"
I will, like I said earlier, I feel like it'll be more constructive to see the point of a dev rather than having people tell me to "Play better" or that "it's fine" when they haven't been in that situation.
Reminds of DS and Sorcery, FromSoft made sorcery better and people who already completed the game without using sorcery butted in saying "It was wrong" etc
@fathom flume if we "haven't been in that situation" instead of wasting your time with us, why don't you go to #h1-high-heat-strategies?
There will be people that have been in your situation
tepid plover
🎉
quaint hatch
Easy fix
gusty slate
Still, Merry was trying to have a discussion
oak shore
@fathom flume ayy, yeah!!! I always feel bad when I take a different god instead of Dionysus in the double boon rooms
dark root
Yeah, Merry probably likes or even loves the game
quaint hatch
No need to change people's opinions who "can't understand you"
cloud apex
That won't fix it because the other 10 people wonder the same thing
fathom flume
"they've probably got a lot of love for it" I do, that is why I provide feedback for the game
oak shore
@fathom flume He's such a bro I never want to let him down
dark root
Awesome
quaint hatch
Still, Merry was trying to have a discussion
@gusty slate I know but it seems to be futile at least with us
carmine ravine
"Keep that feedback until SGG decides if they want to work on it more"
I will, like I said earlier, I feel like it'll be more constructive to see the point of a dev rather than having people tell me to "Play better" or that "it's fine" when they haven't been in that situation.
Reminds of DS and Sorcery, FromSoft made sorcery better and people who already completed the game without using sorcery butted in saying "It was wrong" etc
@fathom flume we already said like 10 times this snt the channel, u dont need to reply back with pragraphs of stuff
fathom flume
" if we "haven't been in that situation" instead of wasting your time with us, why don't you go to #h1-high-heat-strategies?" Again, the only reason I'm here is because someone told me I could spill my feedback here eh
tepid plover
Merry we know we suck
sharp fossil
yeah technically heat is a spoiler in this channel lmao
quaint hatch
And we took the feedback
gusty slate
but my poor hellmode players
carmine ravine
THEN MAYBE THAT PERSON IS WRONG
tepid plover
Thats why I stay out of #h1-high-heat-strategies
quaint hatch
And most of us disagree with you
gusty slate
where do they go to ask questions!
gusty slate
Eh, I don't hard disagree
sharp fossil
TD3 is like AP2
quaint hatch
Don't lose yourself over it
gusty slate
I just wonder if folks over there still have that issue
quaint hatch
The sacred island if good players xD
tepid plover
Merry really be like damn yall dont understand me cause yalls suck
dark root
Tell me other areas that you don't like of the game
gusty slate
I didn't get that from Merry
carmine ravine
your mom
quaint hatch
I hate dialogue rng
sharp fossil
we can talk all day about how certain pacts ruin the game in certain circumstances, but the simple fact of it is that some people like the current TD3, and some people like the current AP2
oak shore
@Merry do you like Hangover as well, or just Dionysus as a character? I know Chill isn't that good but I often end up going for Demeter runs anyway just cos I like interacting with her
quaint hatch
fathom flume
Yes, that is why I engaged in a discussion with you guys, I really don't mind your opinion, you feel how you wanna feel about it, but if you expect me to not respond to what you say directly to me then maybe you guys are going a bit too wild
dark root
Maybe the sack thing can be fixed
quaint hatch
M8 you're getting free nectar for life twonk
dark root
By making a few percent more likely to get the sack
gusty slate
No, Merry just wasn't getting constructive discussion tbh
austere jacinth
Why not both, Twonk? Chill+Decay+Hangover=profit? xD
gusty slate
Well, I guess it was, but then things devolved xD
fathom flume
I like both, Hangover is a great mechanic, DoTs are always fun, and Dionysus himself is a blast
oak shore
@austere jacinth I've had that combo before it's lethal
dark root
Also isn't the sack also a spoiler here
quaint hatch
We were stating our point
Both sides said we don't get the other side
carmine ravine
aight boys this discussion is going no where, we just repeating the same stuff over and over again, no one is making a budge, so how about we fall back in line and move on to another topic?
tepid plover
Imma just give up on that conversation, obviously nobody is going to change opinion on that
oak shore
@fathom flume what's a DoT? Haven't come across that term before
quaint hatch
fathom flume
Damage Over Time
dark root
By making a few percent more likely to get the sack
Everytime you enter a new room
fathom flume
Poison if you will
quaint hatch
I know your lying twonk xD
oak shore
Ohh, gotcha
fathom flume
By making a few percent more likely to get the sack
Everytime you enter a new room
quaint hatch
Nice move
fathom flume
That would be really neat
cloud apex
Another topic, hmm
What was the nicest tip Hypnos ever gave to you?
quaint hatch
That would actually be awesome
fathom flume
Prevent really terrible rng most of the time while still keeping some
gleaming kite
Guys, is there somewhere i can send a bug that i happen to come across
carmine ravine
just shut man, move on
quaint hatch
That would be really neat
@fathom flume good idea!!!
quaint hatch
D10
fathom flume
Not mine tho 👀
astral swift
Roll d10
gusty slate
or #h1-tech-support for Switch
oak shore
@fathom flume maybe it could be an interesting keepsake? That way there'd be a mechanical tradeoff to be made
quaint hatch
That's what I did with bouldy
carmine ravine
yes
cloud apex
Not standing still when bomb flingers are around also is quite helpful
dark root
Guys, is there somewhere i can send a bug that i happen to come across
If you're using pc
tepid plover
quaint hatch
@fathom flume maybe it could be an interesting keepsake? That way there'd be a mechanical tradeoff to be made
@oak shore you did your job, you can rest
gleaming kite
Thanks
tepid plover
🎉
oak shore
@quaint hatch I'm just chattin
quiet gull
"Just don't die"
@gusty slate Dont get hit
carmine ravine
a keepsake that skips a biome when
quaint hatch
And I'm jking
austere jacinth
Hypnos told me I should move out of the way when chariots charge at me. Very helpful.
fathom flume
"Maybe try to get out of the way" Is probably the chaddest korean advice of Hypnos tbh
dark root
@fathom flume good idea!!!
Thank you
tepid plover
a keepsake that skips a biome when
This is horrible lol, why skip something, you're skipping your build
dark root
lol
carmine ravine
hell akeepsake that skips the game when
cloud apex
Ultimate speedrun strats
oak shore
God I love when I've tried my hardest on a crappy build and Hypnos is like "Did you try not being terrible at fighting"
gusty slate
Ultimate speedrun is to ask Charon
cloud apex
Just beat game with whatever you got in tartarus
sharp fossil
any run longer than 0 seconds is pretty slow tbh
carmine ravine
a keepsake that instantly send you the styx but count as a win
fathom flume
Actually, a keepsake that skips rooms for a price could be interesting
gusty slate
Whats the point of escape
austere jacinth
Some people have proposed a 'dream chamber' where you have total control of your build and the enemies in which you face.
tepid plover
It takes around half a second just to get to the 1st boon
cloud apex
A whole second tbh
gusty slate
a whole second? a crime
carmine ravine
a keepsake that allows you to buy another keepsake
tepid plover
A keepsake that allows you to carry the keepsake closet
sharp fossil
It takes around half a second just to get to the 1st boon
@tepid plover for you maybe
fathom flume
Btw has there been any feedback for a "rerun" mode ? I reckon there must have been a lot
carmine ravine
a keepsake to keep the sakes zag keeping
gusty slate
Hm I'm not sure about that one
quaint hatch
A keepsake that double the effectiveness of your next equipped keepsake
sharp fossil
the pros can get the first boon in -1 second
tepid plover
Rerun?
sharp fossil
probably
tepid plover
You mean give up?
gusty slate
Wouldn't surprise me yeah
oak shore
@fathom flume like a lap of glory kind of thing?
oak shore
I loved when they introduced that in Isaac
tepid plover
You can download codex menu and redo your build again in the yard
trail beacon
so when i equip a god keepsake, do hammers overide the first boon thing?
sharp fossil
yep
gusty slate
Hammer has priority
fathom flume
Like I've had poseidon's call runs way too dumb to not replay with again with even more boons stacked on it
tepid plover
Or start with it in the endless mod
gusty slate
Daedalus wills so
carmine ravine
hammer hate gods, gods get bonked by hammer, gods ded
oak shore
Same for Hermes, overrides keepsakes
gusty slate
"Oh sorry I'm too fast"
oak shore
Cos him fast
tepid plover
Hammer doesn't have priority, but it can override a god keepsake yes
dapper mango
but you will still get that god next
tepid plover
^
carmine ravine
too bad its somehow a trial instead
austere jacinth
I kinda like it how it is gameplay-wise. I never really considered re-run stuff. I just want more. More biomes, more enemies, more gods, more boons, more weapons. Like... anything? I'll take anything.
gusty slate
As long as the keepsake still has the counter under it you're good
tepid plover
^
sharp fossil
trials don’t count as god rooms
dapper mango
weapons i think, there are 6 weapons with 4 aspects thats 24 weapons thats a lot!
sharp fossil
so they can also come before your “first” boon
carmine ravine
5 more biomes extend so u guys can get htat 10 duos build u guys dreaming about while having all ur boons at lvl 6
dapper mango
also think there are many gods already and boons so there are many combinations but you can still get what you'd want
carmine ravine
you all want the same thing, beat the final boss, what do you mean
fathom flume
I'd take a mechanic similar to isaac where some biomes are "harder" sometimes, I don't really know how to explain it but basically, take Asphodel for exemple, but instead of Lava it's.. I dunno, Acid ? With different enemies, room layout, boss and it's harder
oak shore
Floor variants
fathom flume
Yes that !
dapper mango
yeah i agree some variations on chambers and levels
quaint hatch
I'd like the prospect of optional/secret biomes
fathom flume
Floor variants
oak shore
Floor variants are awesome
quaint hatch
Like in gungeon or niclear
tepid plover
Yes I'd definitely love that
gusty slate
I present you, the Underworld II: Electric Boogaloo, the house contractor has been hard at work, boy.
carmine ravine
styx is just like asphodel, but now the lava is inside ur body instead
tepid plover
How in isaac you have womb and uterus
oak shore
Multiple paths are also awesome but I think probably a lot harder to implement? I might be wrong
fathom flume
Asphodel but the skeletons have guns now
sharp fossil
real hades dlc called Underworld II: Electric Boogaloo or we riot
fathom flume
Elysium but it's just fire wheels
gusty slate
Elysium but the shades have magically imbued weapons
austere jacinth
I'd like to see a cleaned-up (or partly cleaned up) Asphodel.
tepid plover
Tartarus but is just flame wheels
sharp fossil
i kinda wanna do elysium but solid flame wheels
carmine ravine
how about ||hades|| with a bigger rail and spams hazard bomb at you yes
dapper mango
i think some extra things to spend resources on out of run can be nice, including things that u can interact with
tepid plover
Ah yes lucifer hades
austere jacinth
I don't necessarily want more difficulty. Just... more stuff.
fathom flume
[redacted] with akimbo Rail
exotic basalt
Tacking on Greece and Olympus after Styx would be nice, Greece just has every enemy be variations of Theseus clearly
austere jacinth
Most importantly: MORE DIALOGUE!
dapper mango
idk but game is pretty complete man at the same time
oak shore
I think I've said this before, but it could be interesting (Maybe as a pact punishment) if angry god effects lasted longer than trials
carmine ravine
yes theseus with arhilles spear and spams the teleport anywhere while spamming you chaos shield on the onther hand
fathom flume
All enemies are Theseus
sharp fossil
hades with hazard bomb; the only true way to kill him is to get him to blow himself up
gusty slate
Zeus: "ahahah we wanted to give you a warm welcome!"
oak shore
I think I've said this before, but it could be interesting (Maybe as a pact punishment) if angry god effects lasted longer than trials
I think I've said this before, but it could be interesting (Maybe as a pact punishment) if angry god effects lasted longer than trials
gusty slate
Zeus: "ahahah we wanted to give you a warm welcome!"
dapper mango
think the ideas best come from the creators huhu cause its all pretty careful balance also
fathom flume
Boot your run, it's just Theseus everywhere, calling you a blackguard and stealing your cows
austere jacinth
The game is complete, and it's great. But I am greedy and want more.
astral swift
Tacking on Greece and Olympus after Styx would be nice, Greece just has every enemy be variations of Theseus clearly
instead of physical attacks all the enemies bully your self esteem
sharp fossil
i want a quest where asterius and i team up to fight theseus
oak shore
Theseus sucks so much I love him
tepid plover
I think I've said this before, but it could be interesting (Maybe as a pact punishment) if angry god effects lasted longer than trials
They just stay angry at you for the rest fo the run and the effect is in every encounter
gusty slate
Hellspawn has actually done it
exotic basalt
Self esteem damage, my main weakness
austere jacinth
Asterius would NEVER betray his bro
gusty slate
Blackguard!
carmine ravine
hell, just make all mobs styx enemies
gusty slate
@austere jacinth Aphro has joined the chat
sharp fossil
Asterius would NEVER betray his bro
@austere jacinth sadly he would not
tepid plover
Hey there sis
sharp fossil
but i still kinda want it
astral swift
Theseus sucks so much I love him
He has succeeded in making us masochists
fathom flume
My personal theory is that Theseus is actually just doing it to hype up the crowd, he is just a big dramatic comedian
sharp fossil
until then, i shall console myself with charming asterius
tepid plover
Thats how I always saw him
carmine ravine
nope he just dlusional
oak shore
As an Irish person I'm fascinated I've never said a curse word in here to trigger the bot
austere jacinth
That's part of it, but he is still a jerk. xD
dark root
lol
oak shore
@fresh orchid no problem bud love you
austere jacinth
You can poke at some of his genuine insecurities though. He's not one-dimensional.
carmine ravine
says Pokeuser12
sharp fossil
theseus gets a bad rap just because he’s ignorant and obnoxious
pretty harsh really
fathom flume
Theseus is a really well written character, as is everyone mind you, but I really enjoy how he is portrayed and how scared he is of losing Asterius
sharp fossil
^
fathom flume
carmine ravine
clearly he had something going on with asterius and i dont want to get to graphic but
exotic basalt
Theseus is the character you love to hate
quaint hatch
dapper mango
yea i like theseus i like how he plays too, too bad can be one shot bit easy sometimes in his second phase when you have a full call or smtg? idk
quaint hatch
Theseus is the character you love to hate
@exotic basalt love to hate
carmine ravine
theseus are meant ot be portrayed that way so the job is excellent i guess
fathom flume
Who would win in a fight ? A greek hero who defeated a Minotaur or one tiny bat boy
indigo canopy
i have a little problem, i paid for all purchases in the lounge, then gifted some nectar to dusa and got the prophecy to renovate the lounge. i took away all the renovations and put them back but the prophecy wont be fulfilled, what do i do?
gusty slate
Hm, does the prophecy complete after talking to a certain someone?
fathom flume
Batty ( is that the name in English ? )
austere jacinth
Buy more stuff.
exotic basalt
Legit though, I wanna give Asterius some nectar. He seems like a pretty cool dude
carmine ravine
who would win a fight? the ruler of the underworld when hes mad or from nowhere
sharp fossil
Legit though, I wanna give Asterius some nectar. He seems like a pretty cool dude
@exotic basalt omg
gusty slate
Boyo is strongest one
sharp fossil
you can’t give asterius nectar
fathom flume
"Is that a blasted boulder ?!"
gusty slate
Takes one for the team
austere jacinth
Asterius and Theseus would share it.
dapper mango
probably later with a bit more gifts and talks? @indigo canopy
indigo canopy
Buy more stuff.
@austere jacinth i bought everything before i got the prophecy
fathom flume
You gonna get him lad
heady gulch
mm yes
gusty slate
Lad
fathom flume
@indigo canopy keep doing runs, eventually it'll happen
gusty slate
believes.
austere jacinth
GET HIM!
indigo canopy
probably later with a bit more gifts and talks? @indigo canopy
@dapper mango prophecy just says help dusa renovate the lounge, ill keep gifting her stuff and see how it goes
gusty slate
Yeah I think you need to be acknowledged for that prophecy
fathom flume
Ah yea, basically you have to be really friendly with her, until you max her relationship actually, then it's a matter of rng before you trigger the event
tepid plover
Just buy a lot fo stuff for the lounge. Then you need RNG to trigger the dusa dialogue
tepid plover
Dont think you have to bond with her
carmine ravine
you need the omelette
tepid plover
I got it way before I gifted her more than 1 nectar
fathom flume
I can't talk for that since I instantly maxed Dusa when I could
tepid plover
I'm only missing 2 cosmetics in total