#h1-discussion

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woven cipher
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god mode gives you 20% damage reduction, and 1% extra every time you die

hearty bramble
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by doing god mode

storm walrus
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took me 2 days and a half

barren ocean
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Its not cheating

tepid plover
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God mode isn't cheating

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Is part of the game

long field
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Alright, then do your own thing

barren ocean
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Its in the game for that reason

long field
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I personally like to suffer

hearty bramble
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anyone have any good builds?

barren ocean
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Lmao

shell mulch
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It's so game journalists can play the game :p

hearty bramble
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like im using poseidon sword

long field
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But God Mode is always an option!

barren ocean
hearty bramble
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ok

quiet gull
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anyone have any good builds?
@hearty bramble Yeah, I grab the boons that deal damage and use those

barren ocean
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For specific weapons

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But athena dash is always good

woven cipher
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how much blood do you have lynx?

quiet gull
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Athena Dash and Call are definitely what you want to be doing if you're struggling

barren ocean
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Probably 1

woven cipher
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I can suggest some build that makes life easier

opaque nexus
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@alpine fulcrum I get perfect fish every time

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almost every time*

barren ocean
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Or cast build

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I did demeter cast for first clear

quiet gull
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Crystal Meme best build

alpine fulcrum
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thats not really helpful information lol

gusty slate
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There's a good amount of builds, any specific weapon?

alpine fulcrum
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but congrats

opaque nexus
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I was getting to that

main gazelle
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@hearty bramble are you the spanish streamer?

alpine fulcrum
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oh sorry

opaque nexus
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if you look above the bobber rather than at it, you will not be fooled by the fakes

shell mulch
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Stygian sword with the lifesteal upgrade from a daedelus hammer is pretty nub friendly

gusty slate
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is it really? it's sorta risky

shell mulch
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Poseidon is also a really easy god to build around just slam people into walls for memes

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2 health on hit per attack really mitigates it I find

hearty bramble
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no i dont stream

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i have used up my 4 blood on poseidon

storm walrus
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or just have 3 dash and artemis cast, spam cast and run

opaque nexus
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I hate cursed slash

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let me explain why

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first off, it doesn't work on dash strikes

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which is a big issue, since the default sword combo is slow

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second, even if you do hit with that combo, it's slow so the flat healing won't matter much

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it's definitely most effective on arthur

gusty slate
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Comes down to how well you can balance dodging and combat I guess

opaque nexus
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the health penallty becomes less severe and the attack can actually heal a lot if it hits multiple enemies

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even then, I'm not a fan

long field
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I do not care for Cursed Slash either

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Or the jumping special

hearty bramble
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i thought it was good lol

opaque nexus
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there is an exception

long field
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The jumping special gave me anxiety

opaque nexus
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if you get flurry slash and cursed slash, it is great

gusty slate
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it's good if you're good - a wise man

long field
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^

opaque nexus
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it's bad if you're good lol

long field
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It depends on the user

midnight wasp
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i just bought hades-

long field
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More than anything

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Oh, you did?

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Welcome!

opaque nexus
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hi! welcome to this amazing game

midnight wasp
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idk how long it’ll take to download bc my internet isn’t the best

long field
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Welcome to one of my favorite games!

gusty slate
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it's a fairly big game

long field
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Hope you enjoy your time!

dapper mango
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pretty masterpiece

hearty bramble
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alright artemis boon time

gusty slate
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game is hard though

shell mulch
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Artemis has the best boons change my mind

dapper mango
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yes hard in a good way

limpid plume
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Have they talked about how many patches they plan on deploying past 1.0?

gusty slate
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Nope

opaque nexus
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how hard it is is entirely in the player's control

gusty slate
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Just balances and bug fixes I believe, big content is to be confirmed or denied after their break

opaque nexus
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don't hold your breath though

dapper mango
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i think at lower heat if u dash and attack a lot, if you know the game well, u can sorta spam into victory a bit maybe

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but i think with more heat its different

alpine fulcrum
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i dont really like artemis attack but the other stuff, is good

shell mulch
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Supergiant isn't a massive dev team so it's understandable if they just want to go onto they're next project

dapper mango
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i like artemis attack depending on the weapon used

shell mulch
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@alpine fulcrum try artemis with aspect of chiron bow

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the crit on special + the homing melts about anything

hearty bramble
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uhh

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hol up

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i thought when having artemis blessing

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i'd get that boon

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i got daedalus

gusty slate
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Hammer can do that

opaque nexus
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sometimes the starting room is daedalus, but artemis will show up

alpine fulcrum
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maybe i should level up green talents before finishing out fated authority

opaque nexus
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persuasion is way better

dapper mango
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i switch green and red talents all the time rly like that aspect

opaque nexus
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I usually stick with the same ones

alpine fulcrum
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but u can turn poms/hearts/coins into boons

dapper mango
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stubborn defiance seems hard to use but it seems can be beneficial

alpine fulcrum
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and even get double boon

opaque nexus
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rerolls are incredibly powerful

gusty slate
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That can work too

opaque nexus
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makes getting specific boons so mcuhe asier

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much easier*

dapper mango
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rerolls very nice yea

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especially when u trying to get "priveleged status" bonus triggered how you want

gusty slate
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They both have their place

opaque nexus
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authority is fine but trust me, I've used both for a very long time

dapper mango
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but without rerolls also ok

opaque nexus
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persuasion is way better

alpine fulcrum
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anyway my point is less about that and more that the fated talents cost so much i kinda want to buy everything else i might conceivably use first

dapper mango
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but if you get a lot of boons

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you need persuasion less i think maybe

alpine fulcrum
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now, some of hte green talents i probably wont use

gusty slate
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Yeah that's fair

opaque nexus
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ehh

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I disagree

gusty slate
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There's a prophecy though

opaque nexus
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persuasion also just requires less thinking LOL

dapper mango
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ruthless reflex is hard to use to a benefit but it still good because there is a good chance you'll have enough mobility anyway

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yeah its a bit easier to use persuasion to benefit

opaque nexus
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I played before ruthless reflex so I'm too used to the extra dash

gusty slate
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I used ruthless reflex to train my dashing abilities lol, used it up to like 15 heat

dapper mango
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for example if you have the hermes "sturdy and +100% speed after dash"

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you need the extra dash a lot less

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also if u use ranged weapons

opaque nexus
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I think the extra dash is invaluable, playing with 1 dash feels horrible

dapper mango
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or just extra move speed or even extra dash already from hermes or weapon

opaque nexus
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on any dash strike build greater reflex is a must I think

dapper mango
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yeah especially if u want to dash in

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well

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i use ruthless with dash strike on bow

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no problem i think but better when u have extra speed or something too sometimes

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depends if u can chill them also or something

opaque nexus
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ehh I guess it's fine

gusty slate
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I main abyssal blood for slows

alpine fulcrum
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there should be a talent where you have zero dashes but a big damage boost or something

opaque nexus
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boiling blood gang

gusty slate
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ruthless gives you damage and dodge

dapper mango
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i use both boiling and abyssal

opaque nexus
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if you think I'm biased towards the left side mirrors, I think family favorite is better than PS like 80% of the time

dapper mango
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well if you get

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your two status curses really early

opaque nexus
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it's 40% additive damage

dapper mango
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you are strong early so

opaque nexus
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with FF you will always have 25% when your god pool is full

dapper mango
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you can then gather something else like hearts or even just focus on 2 olympians or some amount

opaque nexus
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that's a single urge to kill difference

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not very impactful

alpine fulcrum
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oh huh i thought there'd be more ranks of family favorite

dapper mango
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but you can get close to 40% with FF no ?

opaque nexus
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on any artemis build I think priviledged status is off the table

dapper mango
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does hermes count in family favorite? i was wondering that

opaque nexus
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yes

gusty slate
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I thought so

opaque nexus
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for most runs it's 25

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%

dapper mango
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cause i was doing FF with like

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hermes + 5 or 6 more

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on some build recently

opaque nexus
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you kinda have to go for that

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and it's additive damage, so not a big deal

dapper mango
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pretty good tho

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i mean that could give u enough overall damage then u go for something other

opaque nexus
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it sort of comes down to PS taking a lot more effort for a slightly greater reward

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I'd rather not think about it

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for stuff that already goes for 2 starus curses sure it's pretty good

dapper mango
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priveleged status sometimes u can get it really early

opaque nexus
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but like if you expect me to take drunken dash or something for PS, no

gusty slate
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it's a bit more niche yeah, but works wonders

dapper mango
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and it can be rly good but depends how hard you end up making it to trigger

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theres lot of options for PS

opaque nexus
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in any case it barely matters, I just think FF is more consistent

gusty slate
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I need to try a PS pos cast build with zeus/dem

dapper mango
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but imagine you run a build where you just focus on 2 or 3 olympians

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and you get a nice strong PS trigger on that too

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can be rly good

gusty slate
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Yeah, FF is nice all-rounder though, less 'forced' into builds

dapper mango
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right

gusty slate
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I'm also just too lazy to force curses

dapper mango
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easier to use FF

hearty bramble
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lmao i made alecto run into spikes

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i can jank out that boss

opaque nexus
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and like, why would I put mroe randomness into this game with randomness

dapper mango
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its unlikely that you would get no trigger of PS at all

gusty slate
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Eh it can be harder to trigger it sometimes

dapper mango
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cause there are options with every single olympian i guess artemis the hardest

gusty slate
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Artemis marked doesn't do so hot

opaque nexus
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well I am FF gang, can't betray my homies

dapper mango
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i would use the olympian keepsakes more and ofc fated persuasion can help

gusty slate
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Although Ares can probably get some big dooms with PS

dapper mango
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i thought so ok @gusty slate

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so yeah artemis the exception

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yeah dooms with PS can be great

west urchin
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Hey everyone, I've been playing Hades for some time now, and while I still can do fresh runs and have fun - I am wondering what you guys build and like to play? Specific builds, tricks, etc?

dapper mango
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it can be so strong early

opaque nexus
west urchin
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tytytyty

hallow jolt
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I don't think I've ever had trouble getting PS to proc consistently, most of the time you end up with 2 debuffs naturally unless you're building for Artemis

alpine fulcrum
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family favorite means you have to take aphrodite boon if it comes up

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as opposed to the correct play of avoiding her as much as possible

dry mauve
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wait but aphrodite is probably the second best god on average

verbal wraith
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I just lost to final boss THREE times in a row. 😄

opaque nexus
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family favorite means you have to take aphrodite boon if it comes up
as opposed to the correct play of avoiding her as much as possible

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excuse me

gusty slate
opaque nexus
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also you dont have to take it if it comes up

alpine fulcrum
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she has no dang clothes, its gros

opaque nexus
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I skip ares boons all the time with FF

dry mauve
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I can't think of a single build which would actually be "bad" with aphrodite, and she's usually optimal or almost optimal for a lot of builds

alpine fulcrum
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also shes only good if you get hit

opaque nexus
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listen go to a historical museum, everyone is naked

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not a big dela

dry mauve
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aphro has the highest % damage buff on her boons, of all the gods

opaque nexus
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deal

alpine fulcrum
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thats why i dont go there

dry mauve
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even factoring in crit, aphro attack still out damages artemis attack

opaque nexus
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it's h i s t o r i c a l l y a c c u r a t e

dry mauve
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though crit does scale better when combined with other boons

opaque nexus
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or mythologically accurate

alpine fulcrum
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historically people wore clothes

opaque nexus
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aphrodite wasn't real

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im dumb

alpine fulcrum
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but shes based on a real person

dry mauve
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in terms of how widely applicable gods are, I think athena is #1 and aphrodite is #2
you really can't go wrong with picking them up in any sort of build

opaque nexus
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crutch dash!

delicate pilot
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so i've discovered something about how run seeds are determined and it's...interesting

alpine fulcrum
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im mad at how good athena is

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also athena shouldnt attack you on dual boon rooms, she should have the wisdom to be chill about you picking the other god

austere jacinth
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Aphrodite isn't 'based on a real person'. Based on a mythological god, yes, but they didn't always wear clothes.

delicate pilot
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Let's say you start a run with a non-god keepsake and you get Zeus. Let's say he comments about the rail.

if you give up and redo the run without doing anything he'll say the same thing.

however, if you equip the zeus keepsake and start the run he'll say something different

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in fact. the keepsake seems to save a line. you'll get the same line you would have gotten if you had the keepsake on 5 runs later

austere jacinth
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Athena is wise, but she's also has the temper and sense of entitlement that all gods share. Especially those of her family xD

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Also a war god, so, you know, fighting good~

nimble jay
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athena is so cool goddess of strategy mwah

alpine fulcrum
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the greek gods are all based on the legendary chads and stacys of greece's archaic period

austere jacinth
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Eh, not so much.

delicate pilot
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testing the same with ares doesn't have the same effect so it might be Zeus exclusive. which is...strange

midnight wasp
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my game says 8 hours for download i really hope it won’t take that long oof

austere jacinth
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It shouldn't. Unless your internet is particularly shaky.

hearty bramble
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any tips for thesus and minotaur boss fight?

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cuz ik im gonna die without a good plan

alpine fulcrum
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you know how to hide behind pillars right

hearty bramble
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no lol

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guess i can try that

alpine fulcrum
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easiest way to keep theseus from hitting you with the spear

austere jacinth
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I find it easier to go for Asterius first, and drag him behind pillars where Theseus can't spear you.

gusty slate
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Know the timing on the spear throw helps too, the red indicator goes really bold when he throws

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maybe sound que

alpine fulcrum
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biggest thing i hate about that fight is the bull charge, sometimes i can make him ram into a wall and sometimes it doesnt seem to work

gusty slate
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dashing into him may work better?

austere jacinth
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You can get him to crash into pillars by dashing through them.

alpine fulcrum
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half hte time he just paths around the pillar

austere jacinth
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You need to dash through the pillar yourself rather than around.

gusty slate
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going close to a wall then dashing into him can work too

hexed echo
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things I figured out that let me win that

  1. You can dash right through pillars, Asterius can't and will whomp straight into them
  2. Asterius does two axe swings then jumps, dash away as he jumps (I go towards his current position), then you can get some hits in
gusty slate
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careful with dashing through though, sometimes you do it too early and he'll go around

hexed echo
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(Also Hermes extra dash/move speed boons help for that fight!)

alpine fulcrum
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wait who helps theseus if you have all the gods

austere jacinth
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You can't get all of them in one run

alpine fulcrum
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oh

hexed echo
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dashing into him may work better?
@gusty slate that hadn't ever occurred to me! cool!

hearty bramble
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well

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i died

alpine fulcrum
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anyway my tip is make sure to get a demeter boon somewhere along the line because otherwise hell make a big hurricane and just stand in it like a jerk

gusty slate
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I know some people said dashing into 'em works too

nimble jay
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i found speed boons against them super helpful paired with fists if u have fists also use dash to ur advantage and run asterius into into pillars

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dashing into them is a massive help if u do a weave type thing dashing in n out

alpine fulcrum
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less of an issue if you're not melee i guess

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oh yeah speed is very helpful on that fight

hexed echo
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you can also kinda just run him into the wall sometimes, if you figure out how to avoid damage from his other more predictable attacks you can kinda get away with a dubious "just keep moving moving moving eventually he'll screw up" strat

nimble jay
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i just did their boss fight SHDHHS i won but died in styx so the strat i used is kinda fresh

alpine fulcrum
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did you lose DDs against them?

nimble jay
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yeah definitely - once you beat them once it's much easier to fight them since u kno their patterns and strategies id also suggest taking on one at a time instead of trying to do both since it's much easier

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i lost one DD tho i usually plan to lose DDs against them and final boss

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i don't lose them through asphodel and tartarus tho since those have gotten super easy for me

alpine fulcrum
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the only randomness in the game i hate is whether or not im going to be able to get DDs back in styx

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(including from boons)

nimble jay
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GOD ME TOO

gusty slate
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I holdon to a reroll to reroll wells sometimes

alpine fulcrum
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wells?

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oh

gusty slate
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Charon minishops

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can reroll with uh... persuasion?

dry mauve
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the elysium boss is really hard at first but once you get used to the attacks its not bad

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asterius's attacks are all super telegraphed, and its mostly just a matter of practicing not getting hit by him in the boss fight or the miniboss room, and once you learn how to avoid spears you can mostly ignore theseus while you kill asterius

gusty slate
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watch out for the tag team attack though

tepid plover
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can reroll with uh... persuasion?
@gusty slate yes

alpine fulcrum
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its cute that if you fight him as a miniboss he's kinda hurt in the boss fight

heavy breach
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tough thing for me is when I lose track of theseus and don't know which direction to dodge in

dry mauve
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there are so many charon well items that im not sure rerolling it is a great idea though

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you just gotta pay a little bit of attention to where he is

alpine fulcrum
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yeah i was kinda wondering if thats a good use of a reroll

nimble jay
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yeah that's trye

alpine fulcrum
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when you can have 4 max

dry mauve
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you can also just dash as soon as he throws the spear

gusty slate
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I mean, it's probably not rational, but I do it lol

dry mauve
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and if you time it correctly you'll dodge the spear even when you're not behind cover

gusty slate
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4 is base max, can get more in a run through RNG

alpine fulcrum
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the real answer to T&A is athena

heavy breach
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timing is still iffy for me idk why

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I'm consistently half a second off and it's really annoying

gusty slate
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took a lot of practice for me tbh

alpine fulcrum
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reflected spear back at him last time i fought him, it was good

gusty slate
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I just look at the bold indicator above my head and hope I timed it right lol

tight topaz
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My blind friend won his third victory on stream if anyone wants to watch it.

alpine fulcrum
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if you lob athena balls at him you dont even really have to time it well

heavy breach
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athena deflect stuff is kinda ridiculous sometimes yeah

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reflecting ||hades'|| attacks nectar

alpine fulcrum
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wait can you reflect the ||gigalazer||

gusty slate
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We just use our silver tongue for that

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hades never gets out of his chair

heavy breach
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wait can you reflect the gigalazer
lol no

gusty slate
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(final boss is a spoiler in this channel though)

alpine fulcrum
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ok that would be dumb

silver dagger
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new pfp is pog

heavy breach
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ok that would be dumb
That would be veryyy fun though

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Just constantly no u'ing the final boss

brisk trail
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Bruh

alpine fulcrum
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lol i feel like i have nowhere to discuss the story since i'm midway through it

heavy breach
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How many times have you won so far?

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||Does seeing the end credits count as halfway through the story?||

brisk trail
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Make a room for people who are midway through the story

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Mods pls

alpine fulcrum
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four

brisk trail
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Ok so the final ending goes like this

alpine fulcrum
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still need to win with gun and fists

heavy breach
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Ok so the final ending goes like this
||You win and the final credits show up||

brisk trail
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Yes

heavy breach
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Man, I love fists and I hate gun

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Unlocking that ||2nd aspect and just pulling foes in|| it's perfection

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Meanwhile, gun half the time is just
I'm holding down the left mouse button, why aren't you dead yet

brisk trail
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Sorry

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Gun is a terrible weapon when you have no experience

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The reloading feels clunky

gusty slate
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using hestia aspect is all reload

heavy breach
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I feel fine with the reloading, it's a bit hectic having to remember to reload it in the middle of dodging a bunch of nonsense

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except when using hestia yeah

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It's just a bit underwhelming when you're emptying clip after clip into an enemy and it just really slows down the encounter

hexed echo
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I'm glad I'm not the only one finding the gun the hardest by far. I feel like a lot of the other weapons you can muddle through without a good sense for how to put together a build, but making bad gun builds by accident is much easier than bad fists etc ones?

heavy breach
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I feel like the way to go is to focus on that Q

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But that's a bit inconsistent against enemies who don't like staying in one place

hexed echo
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Feels liek there's a lot of boons that are.... not necessarily wasted, but it's hard to have consistent damage output without careful decisions

quiet gull
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If you want easy gun builds, just go Zeus attack

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Percentage attack boons arent great on Rail

heavy breach
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Hestia is really good I guess just because the damage boost is just needed

split swift
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Dash attacks are key

inner chasm
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Does it make any difference dash attacking on the Rail? Never felt any tbh

split swift
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Not for damage, but it pops out 3 or so shots quicker

heavy breach
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There's a dps difference?

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huh

inner chasm
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Oh right

hexed echo
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Zeus makes sense. I had a good couple runs with the Eris 'eat the special' aspect then haven't really used it since

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Ohh, that's cool about dash, I didn't realise!

split swift
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Which, when you get Zeus or even Dio, helps out

inner chasm
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But i rarely do that anyways

heavy breach
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Dio, zeus, demeter

inner chasm
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Compared to Fists

split swift
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Rail and Fists are built fairly similarly

quiet gull
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For reference, Eris rail is the fastest weapon for speedrunners currently, cause it deals the most damage the quickest

inner chasm
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Or Sword

split swift
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Unless you run Hestia, in which case you build like bow

quiet gull
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So Rail is definitely good, just requires getting used to

heavy breach
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Eris rail? still feels super underwhelming, is it seeded runs they use?

quiet gull
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Nope

split swift
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Eris is nutty because it boosts all damage

inner chasm
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75% global damage boost

quiet gull
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The bonus damage is applied to ALL damage

inner chasm
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How is that not good

gusty slate
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I think even in nonseeded rankings, eris is there

wet wigeon
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is this game worth buying?

quiet gull
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Even Zeus bolts

gusty slate
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oh i's global wow

heavy breach
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eh, I've only had one eris run so far

gusty slate
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Still not my playstyle but that's like one of the few without restriction boost

inner chasm
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Eris is amazing

hexed echo
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@wet wigeon no I hang out in the discord having a detailed convo about builds for games I hate

split swift
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It really wants to be max rank though

heavy breach
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and, anecdotal, I know, it was still taking multiple clips into an elysium chump with the damage boost and artemis crits

gusty slate
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I need to find shotgun rail hammer again

split swift
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Delta Chamber is good now, I hear

quiet gull
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and, anecdotal, I know, it was still taking multiple clips into an elysium chump with the damage boost and artemis crits
@heavy breach Artemis attack on Rail isnt that great though

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Zeus attack is A LOT more damage

inner chasm
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Well yeah

winter mirage
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Hear me out shower thought

heavy breach
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yea, but it's what I had

inner chasm
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It scales badly with crits

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No keepsake?

winter mirage
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You level up only one boon the athena boon that reduces damage taken

heavy breach
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just straight up not great synergy with crits, noted

quiet gull
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A crit with arty will deal like 40 damage, which is what a regular shot deals with Zeus boon

winter mirage
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and you get bouldy's 1% reduction

gusty slate
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special does better with arty

winter mirage
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what is the maximum amount of damage reduction possible

heavy breach
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and you get bouldy's 1% reduction
and you do it on God mode?

hexed echo
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Rail and Fists are built fairly similarly
@split swift that surprises me!! I've had a good time with rail + scaling the damage one the special and spamming that for hitstun (especially with the hammer upgrade that does ground point/heal on kill)

winter mirage
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oh yeah forgot god mode

delicate ember
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@wet wigeon YES

quiet gull
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Damage reduction is multiplicative, kai, not additive. You cannot get 100%

winter mirage
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yeah u die alot in god mode

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I know

quiet gull
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so something like 99% I imagine

inner chasm
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Cluster Rockets is the way

delicate ember
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Wait people actually use god mode?

winter mirage
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So god mode over and over again will get you to 99% eventually

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what about on non-god mode

gusty slate
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Yeah nothing wrong with godmode

winter mirage
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cuz you cant like, get the bonus defense

quiet gull
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Wait people actually use god mode?
@delicate ember Some people cant even win WITH god mode shadegrief

heavy breach
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Cluster Rockets is the way
Going into a satry hallway and spamming the whole room with bombs

hexed echo
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feels like you get lots of options for awesome single target/area melee damage that synergies really well with poseidon knockback etc.

dry mauve
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im pretty sure god mode caps at 80%

winter mirage
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so it would be athenas boom to the maximum possible level a single boon can get in a run and then bouldy's 1%

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ah

dry mauve
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from what I've heard

gusty slate
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With sword legendary, and some defense boons can get some pretty high def boost

heavy breach
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god mode defence caps at 80 yeah

winter mirage
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you probably cant get 80% legit

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without godmode i mean

inner chasm
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Yeah it's just nigh impossible

winter mirage
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What is the highest level you can get a boon

gusty slate
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Lemme think, Sword legendary, Apro, Dio cast def, Athena?

heavy breach
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80% defence, what a pipe dream

winter mirage
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and what would athenas defense boons bonus be if it was that level

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🤔

heavy breach
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How far could you reasonably push a boon level in a run?

winter mirage
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just a shower thought

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yeah

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that is another question

inner chasm
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I think it's like 8?

heavy breach
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I saw a yt thumbnail that was like LVL 34!!

inner chasm
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If there is a-

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Wow

gusty slate
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Can get pretty high

heavy breach
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which I'm pretty sure is dumb clickbait, but I haven't played enough to make sure

gusty slate
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no cap we know of, just soft'capped by rng

inner chasm
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The issue is the more you level the less effective it becomes

gusty slate
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High level hangover isn't a problem

inner chasm
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Mostly applying to % based boons

hexed echo
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if you sold as many others as possible you could have poms, shop items, the keepsake that gives +1 every .... 5 lvls?

winter mirage
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asphodel event for even more

hexed echo
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is there a fixed set of boons you get per floor? you can sell at least 3 on leaving, probably at least one random purging pool in a room as well.

silent oriole
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Does anyone know if the status effect with maimed strike on malphon is something that only has a certain chance to proc? I'm trying it for the first time and the application of it seems sporadic.

hexed echo
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I didn't think it was %age based.

inner chasm
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Should be guaranteed no?

heavy breach
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is there a fixed set of boons you get per floor? you can sell at least 3 on leaving, probably at least one random purging pool in a room as well.
and constantly using fated authority until you get poms

quiet gull
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Does anyone know if the status effect with maimed strike on malphon is something that only has a certain chance to proc? I'm trying it for the first time and the application of it seems sporadic.
@silent oriole It's only applied if you dash-special

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Regular special wont do it

hexed echo
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I found the timing/hitbox on the dash-special took a bit of getting used to

silent oriole
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Thanks @quiet gull. That was it.

quiet gull
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I recommend reading the tooltips for the 4th aspects carefully!

gusty finch
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Man, getting people drunk by shooting arrows at them never gets old

tight topaz
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@delicate ember My blind friends use god mode. They kind of have to. Asphodel and all...

earnest sand
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does anyone know whether rare crop can hit a boon that is already heroic? 🤔

sharp fossil
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i believe it can, unfortunately

earnest sand
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oof okay 😬 thanks!

manic bobcat
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why don;t you take it and tell us squirtdevious

earnest sand
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😦

winter mirage
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makes it heroic+1

manic bobcat
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well, you used to be able to pom up legendaries

sharp fossil
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wasn’t that just splitting bolt, which was bugged?

manic bobcat
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yeah was splitting bolt, it was a bug

queen wharf
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Is|| Thanatos|| more likely to show up in regular or skull rooms?

indigo canopy
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I MAKE AEGIS MY WEAPON WITH THE MOST COMPLETIONS TRYING THE GET THE MF ||SECRET ASPECT|| AND I GET IT ON THE RUN WEAR I WEAR FISTS? bruh

manic bobcat
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almost like they have no correlation o.o

indigo canopy
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also how does one catch a rare fishy

winter mirage
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btw

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whats the difference between aphros damage reduction and athenas damage reduction

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Aphros says nearby but then just says damage reduction %

tepid plover
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I MAKE AEGIS MY WEAPON WITH THE MOST COMPLETIONS TRYING THE GET THE MF ||SECRET ASPECT|| AND I GET IT ON THE RUN WEAR I WEAR FISTS? bruh
You dont need to play with the weapon at all to unlock the aspect

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Except spear

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Aphros says nearby but then just says damage reduction %
Exactly what it sounds like, aphro only works with people nearby

indigo canopy
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You dont need to play with the weapon at all to unlock the aspect
@tepid plover its how i unlocked all the rest so i just kept going that way

tepid plover
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That was going to happen wether you were using them or not

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My and my friend unlocked most aspects without using the weapon

indigo canopy
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also how does one catch a rare fishy
@indigo canopy what about this tho

tepid plover
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You get a perfect catch

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Be quick

indigo canopy
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so like

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just as it bobs down for real?

tepid plover
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Yes

indigo canopy
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when i hear the sound or see the flash?

calm orbit
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Trick that works for me is to close my eyes and react to the sound instead of watching

tepid plover
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If that works for you

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Then do it

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I cant do that 🤣

midnight wasp
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hades is at 14% i can’t wait for it to eventually finish

indigo canopy
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i might try that because i find myself being faked out by the little bobs by trying to be too quick

tepid plover
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If the fake bobs are getting thru you then yeah

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Whatever works for you

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As long as you do it fast

prime crag
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Out of curiosity, given there are so many records on accomplishments and run info, are there any leaderboards?

tepid plover
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Dont think so

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Just the speedrunning website is as close as you can get

mint creek
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ive been trying to get the last aspect for the bow ive invested 5 titans blood and unlocked the spear aspect and talked to artimis and yet i cant seem to get the hidden dialog am i missing a step

tepid plover
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Random number generator

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Thats your missing step

mint creek
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ew

queen wharf
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You sure you've invested 5?

mint creek
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ive evested alot more than five

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invested

queen wharf
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All righty then

indigo canopy
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caught rare fish

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pog

real fossil
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The only rare fish ive caught was in elysium lmao never seen one since then

tepid plover
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Youre probably missing the sound cue

hallow prairie
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oh wow

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you can't give up runs until you get the gift you want?

tepid plover
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No lol

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Cheater

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Just die

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You can already do this by equipping a keepsake

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Why cheese it

indigo canopy
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i found out im a visual guy

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caught the tartarus and styx rare fish

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missed the elysium one and caught a carp shadedisgruntled

tepid plover
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Congratz!

gusty slate
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but things must be cheesed

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law of nature!

tepid plover
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Yikes

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I dont even use god keepsakes

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Full rng

gusty slate
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Fates take the wheel

tepid plover
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Hell yeah

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I trust the fates

indigo canopy
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yeah ive leveled every keepsake except the god ones

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my chaos and zeus are lvl 3 and arti lvl 2 and thats about it

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i dont classify hermes in the same category

tepid plover
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Correct

alpine fulcrum
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what does it mean when there's a little icon in the corner of a keepsake

indigo canopy
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youve maxed out the affinity gauge

alpine fulcrum
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what does that have to do with the keepsake though

indigo canopy
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just a way of showing without having to go through the codex one by one

dusk sandal
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Hey so I just finished my first 32 heat run, and I uh

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ran out of time while fighting the final boss

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but I didn't get poofed

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what's uh, supposed to happen when you run out of time

manic bobcat
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nah

dusk sandal
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I heard a bell toll and such

manic bobcat
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spoiler for the reason: ||TD hurts you with 5hp/s if you go overtime, it doesn't kill you outright||

dusk sandal
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Ah, thank you very much 🙂

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That's so much more forgiving than I thought, but very well designed

wide torrent
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is it possible to miss or skip the second dream sequence? i haven't seen it and have beat final boss once

tepid plover
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There are 2 dreams??

indigo canopy
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theres a ||second dream sequence||?

manic bobcat
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Not sure about ||second dream||, but I did beat the final boss on 4th attempt in my new save file and the order of the story is out of wack.

wide torrent
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there are two flashback things, i am afraid i missed the one in the admin chamber?

tepid plover
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Ohhhh right

solemn nest
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I've finally done it. The legendary aspect of poseidon, true shot, fully loaded, exit wounds, flurry cast run

ancient canyon
#

Hey all. So I’ve been able to beat the game a few times with the Chiron bow (Aphrodite attack + Artemis special) and chaos shield (Ares attack + Zeus special). Are there any other weapons / builds that are fairly easy to clear with?

indigo canopy
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dio cast with the dem and zeus duos will shred, quite difficult to get but if u do my god you will be speed running my friend

dusk sandal
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I think Hera bow is much better than Chiron, personally - Poseidon, Athena and Aphrodite casts all do massive damage - grab Snow Burst in there somewhere (effectively replaces your regular attack for trash mobs and triggers Privileged) and a relevant Duo boon and you've got a stew cooking

tepid plover
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They are both hella good

ancient canyon
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I’ve already invested quite a bit into Chiron

carmine ravine
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i personally liked the hidden bow more

ancient canyon
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I was thinking more about other weapons that are easy to clear. Rail maybe?

alpine fulcrum
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yeah you cant rely on getting duos but artemis/zeus and demeter/poseidon are both crazy if you can get them

ancient canyon
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Sword, spear, and fists have been tough for me so far

alpine fulcrum
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by crazy i mean they let you kill bosses without getting anywhere near them

dusk sandal
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I can say that Demeter fists is really very good

tepid plover
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I love demeter

dusk sandal
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A good yardstick is to try and force Merciful End - with Ares attack and Athena Dash/Special

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Big Strong

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fat hits

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Pairs well with Artemis/Athena duo as well if you can get it

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the hammer upgrades are all to taste, except avoid Heavy Knuckle

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Demeter Fists are my fav weapon in the game ❤️

indigo canopy
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i never used them

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found the utility of talos more useful

dusk sandal
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I hate pressing the cast button on anything that isn't the Hidden Shield and Hera but I can definitely appreciate that 😂

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Still don't know what to do with the Hidden Gloves though lol

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uh, Eris Gun is considered very, very good

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Get Zeus lightning on attack and everything else is basically to taste

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For the spear, going hard on casts with Achilles is a strong strategy

carmine ravine
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hidden fists is good on special builds imo,

dusk sandal
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ahhh, I see

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I'll mess around with that

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Like, aphro special or Arty special?

carmine ravine
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one of those, but i make sure to have quake cutter and maintain maim on enemies, with dmg boosters, the maim proc can go rly high

dusk sandal
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Oh do special damage boosts effect maim?

carmine ravine
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not rly

dusk sandal
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right... I see

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oh

carmine ravine
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as in privilege status and weak susceptibility

dusk sandal
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yep, gotcha - the handful of All Damage boosts

carmine ravine
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beside the atk is cool with deflect i guess, since its a 180 arc

dusk sandal
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!!!

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interesting

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Oh and Switch, for low investment Swords, both the Hidden Sword and Poseidon are quite good

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Poseidon is obviously any cast that hits in an aoe + exit wounds

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Or maybe not even the aoe, that's all to taste

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i've got no tips for the hidden sword lol, I don't really mess with it myself

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A friend of mine swears by Artemis attack for Fat crits though

carmine ravine
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hidden sword is nice

tribal glade
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i had a good run with hidden sword and aphrodite attack

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just put down special and facetank with attack and win

dusk sandal
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yeah that was my best run with the sword

carmine ravine
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u dont always atk, u dash and atk instead

dusk sandal
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but idk if it's reliable

tribal glade
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yeah dash & attack but sometimes just... attack lol

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coz lazy

carmine ravine
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no the second and third can also be done after dashes

tribal glade
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i picked up a fair few hearts too so was kinda lazy with avoiding dmg

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yeah

carmine ravine
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so u can activate backstab with athna dashes to maximize dmg

tribal glade
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i think my timing was bad coz i was trying to do that and only sometimes got it

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or maybe always got it? im not entirely sure

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was a pretty easy run either way

dusk sandal
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oh! I thought that's what was happening

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sick

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shows what I know about the sword lmao

ebon basin
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Alright im righ qt styx on em4 16 heat i have herabow lvl 7 heroic trippy shot with ice wine duo boon all dd all im praying for is art +2 casts im feeling good about this run

brave cobalt
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are we still expecting cross saves to be available before october is finished?

ebon basin
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Holy crap dude i just bought 2 dio boons and a dem boon and got both their legendaries and a duo boon

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Tf is my luck rn

wheat kayak
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Luccsacc

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Watch as the Olympians refuse to give you any duos or legendaries the next few runs

ebon basin
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Holllly sht

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I get to go into hades with an extra cast

tepid plover
ebon basin
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Got a pool shop right before the last room

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Alr ill bb when i faik miserably

tepid plover
plucky sail
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I just realized I put as many hours into Hades as I did in monster hunter 4U which is another very very time sinky game, just wanna say

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totally worth it, 10/10

ebon basin
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Noooo it was too easyyyyyy

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I was too setup :"(

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I got tricked hahahaha

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Phewwwwwww

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Yo i got so caught off guard

tepid plover
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11/10

ebon basin
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||Talk about celebrating early||

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||That music tho||

tepid plover
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Epic

alpine fulcrum
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lol i keep having to choose stuff i dont want because prophecies

quiet gull
#

I mean, it's a really smart way to incentivize new players to just try everything out but yeah I only just finished all those prophecies at 65 runs

alpine fulcrum
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kick special with demeter fists ;_;

dusk sandal
#

6 KICKS

ebon basin
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65 runs

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I did all mine at 100

tidal depot
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Anyone knows if devs are working in adding new gods or content in the future? i know the game has been just released but i love it very much ♥️♥️

carmine ravine
tidal depot
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ty sorry for asking before reading first !

burnt thorn
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Hey Im sorry, i dont particularly know where to ask about a game mechanic, can anyone direct me?

gusty slate
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Can probably ask here I guess?

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mechanic is a pretty general term, could be anything xD

burnt thorn
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Yeah, Im actually pretty far into the game and its a bit embarrassing, is there a better way to identify if there is a fishing spot in a chamber?

carmine ravine
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a line out of the water

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and an audio cue

burnt thorn
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Ok so there is another indicator

gusty slate
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Other than Zag mentioning it, just have to look out for the line out of the water yeah. At the end/start of some encounters there is a ding

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pretty easy to miss tbh

burnt thorn
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Thank you, i knew about the line but i was hoping there was an audio cue

carmine ravine
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i always heard it

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its very particular

gusty slate
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I mean it's always there yeah, but for some reason I've exited as the ding goes xD

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idk how I accomplished that

carmine ravine
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sometimes yeah

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too bad the chests dont have a cue

gusty slate
#

That is like the only thing without a sound cue huh

carmine ravine
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actually the wells too iirc

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and the purging well

jagged ermine
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yo yo yooo

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i just had an idea for like a DLC or a sequel

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like, ive seen people talk about how they can fit in the other gods they havent put in by explaining why they didnt help zagreus

gusty slate
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It's mentioned very briefly, they're out doing other things I think

jagged ermine
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and i could SO see like, Apollo's reasons being tied to his job as a god of life, light and medicine

gusty slate
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Demeter mentions it

jagged ermine
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i havent had that voice line yet

gusty slate
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If you're using Hera bow maybe?

burnt thorn
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Theres so many lol, it wouldnt be suprising

gusty slate
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Its been awhile since I've done that stuff, but my memory could very well be off

burnt thorn
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Im 80+ runs in and I still am hearing new voicelines

gusty slate
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but sorry for interrupting, go on 👍

jagged ermine
#

i need to see apollo's opinions on Thanatos, Hades, and the realm of the dead. Does he accept that all medicine is ultimately futile and only serves to prolong life and allow mortals to fix their mistakes? Or does he abhor the way that death goes towards the sick and impoverished first? i really look forward to the way they may characterize him

gusty slate
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hopefully they work on Hades on the side

carmine ravine
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i think demeter does comment on that saying shes looking at mortals that dont go extinct without her intervention

gusty slate
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Sounds like something she would say

tepid plover
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If I switch of shell, do I lose it as a requirement for fishing legendary?

inland wasp
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Is there a place to post a bug report?

delicate pilot
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i have a very specific request

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does anyone have an image of the in conversation Dusa with hearts?

dusk mantle
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How to get Poseidon chibi. ? I have every other chibi , Poseidon one not unlocking no matter what I do including picking up his boon after successful fishing that run

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Looks like it might be bugged

tepid plover
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Is there a place to post a bug report?
@inland wasp preference in game. With f10

young oyster
#

I'm sure this has been asked a trillion times, though I can't for the life of me find where so... is there a sequel planned for Hades? Or an expansion? Because take my money please.

delicate pilot
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the most i've seen is Supergiant saying they'll think about DLC in the future

toxic thunder
#

What does the special for aspect of || Arthur || do besides look cool

real fossil
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damage reduction + trap disable + slow enemies/projectiles

brisk trail
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Increased health, new slower but much harder-hitting Attack combo, Special sets down an aura that does all of ^ that.

real fossil
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love it cuz i hate lava so much

hexed trail
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||Arthur|| disables traps? squirtooh

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Good to know

slender skiff
#

It's great for the extreme measures Lernie fight.

wheat kayak
#

||EM2|| Hydra's main difficulty is probably the lava yeah

alpine fulcrum
#

i think ive been getting more perfect catches than i realized

wheat kayak
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Also hidden sword has ridiculous base damage

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You can probably fight all the way to Elysium without any attack/special boon

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At least I know I did

alpine fulcrum
#

and i just thought they were low rarity fish because i didnt get anything more than like gems or nectar for them

real fossil
#

im ridiculously bad a perfect catches lmao

wheat kayak
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Same

real fossil
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only got the one from elysium

alpine fulcrum
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how do you get the really good stuff from fish

real fossil
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tartarus fish = gemstones
asphodel = keys
elysium = nectar
styx = gemstones
chaos = darkness
|| surface || = || bounty-level resources||

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rarity only affects quantity of what u get

alpine fulcrum
#

are the odds of getting a fishing spot in that last place the same as anywhere else

delicate pilot
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how do i know if i even get in the range of a perfect catch

wheat kayak
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I heard it's 0.32s after the indicator appears

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So basically be faster

delicate pilot
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like i took a reaction test and i got .25 average

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i just cant get a legendary fish for my life of me though

wheat kayak
#

I think I got my legendary fish from normal catches because I'm slow

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There's a chance but it's like rolling gacha for high tier characters

supple pond
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The textbox will say perfect catch if you manage to hit it

wheat kayak
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Which is to say pretty low

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Yeah I know

delicate pilot
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ive never gotten that before

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are my chances of 100% completetino doomed?

slate jetty
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you are not missing out on anything besides the codex entries if you can't catch the legendary fish.

wheat kayak
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That's.. why I'm here

slate jetty
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I mean, it took me over 400 runs and 1027 total fish caught to complete the codex

wheat kayak
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Legendary fish outside of surface fishes have pretty awful rewards anyway

slate jetty
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(though the last fish I was missing was a common Chaos fish)

real fossil
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ive never spawned a chaos fishing point :<<<

delicate pilot
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the last fish i caught was none becasue i have only legendary fish left

real fossil
#

chaos pls love me

ebon basin
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Im 130 runs and only found one dont feel bad @real fossil

carmine ravine
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they buffed it in the test branch, u guys should check it out

ebon basin
#

Hestia rail is making my fingers cramp lmao

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on switch

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Gonna switch buttons around

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This is super inefficient

alpine fulcrum
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fun fact

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making it to the last boss with all your DDs does not mean you can just get hit by every swing

ebon basin
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Lol yea no unless ur trolling a vengance build

wheat kayak
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Unless you have 400-500 HP + Aphro boons or something

ebon basin
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First time i did em4 || didnt know hades had a 3rd form so i was hasty and used all my dds on his 2nd form||

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Still won but god damn was that butt clenching

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Why is 100 necter the last theme im gonna finish

carmine ravine
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its like 50k gems, its fine

alpine fulcrum
#

maybe i should use fiery presence with demeter fist

tropic panther
#

just completed the entry for all fishes

quaint wind
#

congrats!

tropic panther
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thanks

alpine fulcrum
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does fiery presence work on all hits of a multihit attack

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oh wait nvm thats going to suck on bosses

raw mango
#

Why is 100 necter the last theme im gonna finish
@ebon basin it also happened to be the last one that popped up for me after unlocking all other themes AND converting about 50 into diamonds for music because i didn’t know I was going to need 100

ebon basin
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:')

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Been using them on bouldy

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For a 2% ambiguity xDD

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Shouldve saved them for the theme first

steep osprey
#

Hi. I'm sure you guys have heard of the recent DMCA strikes by music labels against streamers. I wanted to ask if SGG is fine with playing the OSTs from their games (Bastion and Hades) on streams, assuming that the streamer has legal access to it and the origin of the music is made known? Don't really want to tag the devs, but if anyone knows the answer or a better place to ask the question, please chime in.

round wraith
#

best boons for ||gilgamesh||?

carmine ravine
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personally i use athena atk and dash with exposed and aphro special, cast with dio/demeter duo

round wraith
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thats a very specific setup

rain dew
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i like artemis atk plus dash

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im think is one of the highest dps of the game

wheat kayak
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Ares spec can go with Maim very well

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Doom effect is affected by Maim too I think

midnight wasp
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my hades finally installed and i played some and i like this game a lot so far

round wraith
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it's p neat

quaint wind
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it's a damn good time

carmine ravine
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the main focus when using hidden gloves is focusing on maximizing the maim stuff, weak stuff can provide susceptiblity and privileged status increases it more

round wraith
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maim with ares artemis dual cast is doing crazy damage

pure barn
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What is maim

round wraith
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spoiler

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||spoiler||

pure barn
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;-;

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Why... Did you put that

carmine ravine
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||yes ||

elder hornet
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Hello!

pure barn
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Hi

round wraith
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just got the ultimate blade riff build

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or close to it

pure barn
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What weapon do you use?

round wraith
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||spoler||

pure barn
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I swear to gods

ebon basin
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Fighing charon in tart with 32 heat

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Pro moves over here

pure barn
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"hey everyone move over we gots a pro over here!"

ebon basin
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Somehow he was easier than the champion rooms

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Depressed

pure barn
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;-;?

ebon basin
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Dont have time limit so i can take my time

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Made charron easy compared to swarms of enemies with double buffs lol

pure barn
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I just realized I have some honey in

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Mmmmmmmnbm

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Also sometimes bossos are easier since it's a single target

ebon basin
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Some if them are xD

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Worried about the thesus fight

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I overbuffed enemies instead of giving a time limit

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So the bulls gonna me super tanky

pure barn
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Yikes, I can't deal with time limits in games tho

inland leaf
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fortunately 9 mins is more than enough

pure barn
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For you ;-;

inland leaf
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F

pure barn
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I spend like five minutes deciding what door to go through

ebon basin
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9 is managble but its not enough heat

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So i opt to have no limit and just take my time with tankier more dangerous enemies

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Less stressful

pure barn
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Yeah same ;-;

vapid narwhal
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7 min is not that tough

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5 min tartarus + 5 min asphodel is pretty easy, this leaves you plenty of extra for elysium and styx

round wraith
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chiron with artemis is like op

vapid narwhal
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better, chiron with dio + pressure point

ebon basin
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Idk man im trying out hestai rail for a bit

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32 heat with it is tough if have a time limit or the negate damage sheilds

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Once im better ill add the timmer

vapid narwhal
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damage control is not that threatening for rail since you negate them so fast anyway

ebon basin
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Hestia rail

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It makes it annoying

ebon basin
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I think one of my favorite things in the game

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Is going to the broker

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And not trading anything

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And then the emote of annoyance above his head

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Always gives me a little chuckle

dusk night
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i swear i never find it anymore

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wiki says you cant get it with the Achilles Aspect, which i hardly use

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but yeah i never see it show up these days

ebon basin
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Yea it is

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Im actually using it rn

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Lol

dusk night
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ohk sweet

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guess rng just aint on my side

ebon basin
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Wait

dusk night
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ill keep trying cheers

ebon basin
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Only read if its in the game

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Idk about the achilies aspect thing

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Gllll

dusk night
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it would make sense if it wasnt cause it would do too much damage in a special build

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but idk

ebon basin
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Whats achilies bonus 150%?

dusk night
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post rush damage buff for the next few attacks i believe

ebon basin
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Meant the damage amp number its 150% righ?

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Dont see why that would be too broken

dusk night
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🤷‍♂️

ebon basin
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Theres a sheild upgrade than amps bull tish to 400%

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And thats not even great lol

dusk night
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i thought it was 500% but perhaps im misremembering

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either way ye idk, i didnt make the game so i wont question the design choices

ebon basin
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I can understand that

pure barn
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Im prettt sad my boi Apollo didn't get in the game but I'm happy people did great art of him

ebon basin
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Rn i have ||rama bow|| at 53% 56% 119% plus double shot

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Pretty good numbers this is fun

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Does dash strike and attack add to eachother or is attack solely the attack and doesnt effect your dash strike

latent jetty
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it affects it too if i remember correctly

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i had reflect on my attack and when i dash striked on spear it still reflected

ebon basin
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Yup figured it out ty tho

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Fun fact, hades is the best selling game on switch rn

oak shore
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This is almost certainly a silly question but does anyone know if Rip Current has any prerequisites besides Poseidon's Aid? After ~100 hours it's the only basic boon I haven't got, and I did five or six runs yesterday with the conch trinket trying specifically to get it with no luck. Worried I might be missing something.

latent jetty
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not sure, everytime i get a Poseidon that one is always on there for me

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just bad rng i guess

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but that should be the only prerequisite

vapid pollen
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I had a similar problem with one of Aphrodite’s boons. Eventually it appeared with some rerolling. I still need rip current to finish Poseidon too so more rerolling fun to follow I guess.

ebon basin
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Yea i also had a hard time with it

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It was i beleive the last boon i had to get

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Id just make sure you have persuasion on and reroll when u meat the prerequisite

oak shore
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Yeah, I've been rerolling

latent jetty
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the only ones im missing myself are legendary, i have such bad rng pepehands

oak shore
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It's totally possible it's just bad RNG, I just wanted to be totally sure that I wasn't slamming myself against a wall without realizing there was a door

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I'm still missing like a third of the duo boons so it's not like it's the only thing left but I don't really like Poseidon's boons in general so it's been a little bit of a grind to work through

latent jetty
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i only really enjoy his knockback dash

hardy cairn
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i finally managed to beat the 3rd bosses

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then died to rats

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😢

latent jetty
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oof

hardy cairn
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i did not notice they poisoned me

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until it was too late

latent jetty
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yep, my least favorite part, the poison can make a godlike run for me turn to complete ass

vapid pollen
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Sometimes I clear tunnels without using much health and do extra ones. Other runs I seem to almost DD and pray I get the right room 2nd for a heal

oak shore
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I almost always end up doing extra tunnels so that I can get a nice charon shop boost

hardy cairn
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that was my process of thinking

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i felt i needed a boost

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but not having the revive thing and low health

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is not a good combo

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oh well I finally bought my second death deffiance

oak shore
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Oh, for sure, early on I just got out once I had the sack

latent jetty
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i do extra tunnels depending on how rng blessed my run with boons

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theres times where i just know i wont even be able to beat Redacted so i just do the tunnels and try to buy anything i can like a diamond or blood

visual remnant
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is there any news on the cross save?

oak shore
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For me, early on having Stubborn Defiance instead of Death Defiance helped a lot, because dying once to 3rd boss wouldn't have knock-on effects for the last floor/boss

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I only really switched over to Death Defiance once I was consistently getting to the final boss without dying

pure barn
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Best girl

latent jetty
pure barn
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Close second

sharp turret
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The rats are easily the most annoying enemies in my opinion

oak shore
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For me it's the Satyrs themselves. I've never quite been able to place the timing for dodging their spit, and the sound for it is often hard to hear/process with everything else going on in the screen

nimble jay
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i honestly hate the satyrs and rats on the same level they both r rlly frustrating to me esp when it's at the same time

heavy breach
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Rats are ok most of the time, tanky as hell sometimes but avoiding damage is easy enough

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Satyrs are the bane of my existence

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The only enemy that still make me anxious in a fight in the tunnels

latent jetty
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Anything that poisons just ges my anxiety rushing as im just slapping them with wet noodles only to find out im poisoned and a quarter of my hp is already gone.

heavy breach
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It just annihilates your health so quickly, it's insane

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And it's always when you forget to identify where the cure well is

robust sundial
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the snake gems are bad

heavy breach
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I mean, everything in the last stage can do a lot of damage very quickly

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I'd rather have slow moving laser boy that can be countered by a pillar than a rat that covers half the screen with poison

vapid pollen
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And then you dodge all that and realise you’re standing on the grate with gas coming out of it 🤦🏻‍♂️

heavy breach
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Who will win
The son of Hades empowered by the boons of olympus
Or green vent

cunning bridge
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Any word on cross save recently?

latent jetty
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nope

wheat kayak
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Snake stones' beams aren't 360 like the miniboss variant

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I struggled with them for quite a while but then it just clicked

deep geyser
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Nah they start closer to 145 ish and then close in I think

wheat kayak
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Gotta be two thirds of that

robust sundial
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heat 32, 1 heat defiance, 105HP... let's do this.

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and crap...

deep geyser
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Oof

night schooner
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Are armored enemies "undamaged" until they lose their armor?

flat vapor
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nope, armor is still considered part of hp

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so damage to armor still counts as damaged

night schooner
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Crap, that's to bad. Ty :)

late shard
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Man I love this game. Took me about 20 runs to finally get past Hades. Currently at 56 and set on decorating the house

heavy breach
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Bruh, GOTY material

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I'm loving every second

austere jacinth
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Ha, I've not finished that, Owler and I have about 170 runs? Decoration endgame? xDD

late shard
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Got 100% achievements on Bastion and Transistor, currently on 79% here

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Im seriously scared to upgrade the badge or whatever its called

heavy breach
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I can't believe this is the same year as HLA, ghosts of tsushima and last of us part 2

late shard
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wiki says it takes hundreds of thousands of darknes

austere jacinth
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I prefer Hades to all of the games you mentioned. xDD

late shard
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yeah, it really shows evolution of Supergiant

heavy breach
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I remember hearing about Bastion in a 2010 kids' gaming magazine

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Bit surreal that a decade later, the people that made that made my favourite game of the year

austere jacinth
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I've not played any other Supergiant Games. I will though, after Hades. Although... I mostly just want more Hades atm xDD

heavy breach
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Hades is the video game version of an all you can eat buffet where every dish is a banger

late shard
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I still havent finished Pyre even tho I got it day one

heavy breach
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I'm not sure about Pyre, I feel like there's a lot of mixed reactions to that one

late shard
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I mean, I like it and will finish it one day for sure but I just can't get to it

austere jacinth
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I'll get to it eventually, same as with the other SGG offerings.

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Hades has convinced me~

late shard
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I'm seriously afraid that after Hades' fast paced fights, others may feel a bit slow or clunky

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But I love them nonetheless

inland fossil
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how is it you hide text for spoilers?

robust sundial
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y'all want some slow battles ? Try the Banner Saga.

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@inland fossil use the "||" before and after your spoiler

inland fossil
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Ty

late shard
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||neat||

robust sundial
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||try me||

inland fossil
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|yo|

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did it work?

robust sundial
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nope, you need to double it

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four | in total

heavy breach
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|| <-- this on both sides of the word

robust sundial
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2 before and 2 after

lavish condor
#

Dude, on which run did you guys manage to scape?

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I’m currently on my 27th

brisk trail
#

Anyone seen the Blood of Zeus anime on Netflix?

austere jacinth
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idk. 40-ish? I stopped counting.

inland fossil
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||like this||

robust sundial
#

I think it was on 40ish too

inland fossil
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got it

deft shell
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21st run for me

late shard
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20 something

brisk trail
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Averages between 20-30

robust sundial
#

and mine was using god mode

glass bone
#

Can I still earn the PoP 32 award after hitting the cap with a weapon?

lavish condor
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FeelsGood to not being the only one who SUCKS hahahahah

tropic mauve
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Finally got to Elysium!!! Only been playing for three days on God Mode

austere jacinth
#

I honestly never worried about how good or bad I was in relation to others. I was more concerned about making friends with everyone (and becoming more with some), and delving into the story. It's so good.

late shard
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Yeah, I love what they did with relationships and unlocking stuff as we die in the begining. I never felt like the failed runs were pointles

lavish condor
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I honestly never worried about how good or bad I was in relation to others. I was more concerned about making friends with everyone (and becoming more with some), and delving into the story. It's so good.
@austere jacinth I’m just kidding. But also really trying hard to scape to throw it to my father’s face

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LUL

wise stratus
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13th run for me I think

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might be 12th

late shard
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Man I remember having super good build, killing everything in seconds and then dying to Hades. That was like my 3rd or 4th try of fighting him

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I feel like I learned a lot since then cause I didn't even die once recently when I had super low DPS build

heavy breach
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God, everybody has that run

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That run where everything goes well and go up to Hades with all 3 lives and an insane build
and you still lose to Hades

austere jacinth
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This game made death feel like something other than abject failure, which was nice. If I died, I got to make headway with relationships and progress stories. Really well written stories.

wise stratus
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I'm the clutch god 🙂

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win with 3 DDs lost and 1hp 😄

heavy breach
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Hades really makes you FEEL like Zagreus

austere jacinth
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I just want the best for Zagreus. He's such a refreshing protagonist.

heavy breach
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Seriously though, the way the game makes you feel about death the same way that the characters do is really cool

late shard
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He's like.. super wholesome

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And I love it

wise stratus
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I feel like Zagreus as I'll say something and he'llsay the same thing 😄

heavy breach
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I feel like it's very hard to pull off a teenage/young adult-like character with rebellious tendencies without making them come off as annoying

austere jacinth
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I'm bored of gritty, guard-your-feelings, trauma-ridden protagonists. Zag is a nice boy. He's not flawless - he's reckless and restless and often acts without consulting others - but he genuinely cares about people and he's not afraid to show affection to those he loves or respect for those who help him.

real fossil
#

zag best boi

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well next to cerbs

late shard
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Man I've got to get the cerberus painting for the House of Hades

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Right next to Zag's portrait

ashen prism
#

I feel like Zagreus as I'll say something and he'llsay the same thing 😄
@wise stratus This happened to me the other day, I got a duo boon I was hoping for and said "Now we're talking" then promptly after he said the same thing XD

alpine stratus
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i always wonder like...are we super in sync or did i pick up his turns of speech without realizing 😂

heavy breach
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Zagreus is the God of millenials

austere jacinth
#

I also really like how they've handled a lot of the gods. The more I play, the more I'm loving what they did with Ares, who's about as close to a feminist as the Greek Gods actually got, yet has such a horrid reputation in the modern era. He's never portrayed well... BUT he is in Hades ❤️