nah best is skelly
#h1-discussion
gusty slate
Boyo
inland leaf
boyo
static wadi
@frozen ice what about Cerber
inland leaf
the best boy
static wadi
300% good boy
gusty slate
Boyo I gotta say, it's touching to know how much you care
frozen ice
Cerb is too high maintenance
inland leaf
When I first played Hades and realised you can pet Cerberus, I fell in love
gusty slate
Ripped up the lounge
brisk trail
You know the people of Twitter think this game is a dating simulation because of all the fan art.
frozen ice
Cerb destroyed the lounge + makes you bribe him each run
inland leaf
You know the people of Twitter think this game is a dating simulation because of all the fan art.
@brisk trail problem is, nearly all games have some sort of... "fan art" if I can say
brisk trail
True, I’m just saying what’s happening.
thorny thorn
you can remove 'nearly' and you're right
inland leaf
well, haven't seen nothing for Pong...
thorny thorn
I have seen 'fan art' for games you would never think there should be any for, that's internet for ya :D
WELL YOUD BE WRONG
brisk trail
People think it’s a dating simulation where you can have relations with both male and female gods/goddesses.
thorny thorn
in thinking there's none
orchid meteor
hey
gusty slate
woah woah woah, we don't speak that around here
orchid meteor
I picked up the game yesterday, I was wondering if people knew the most effective way of farming for permanent upgrades
static wadi
@orchid meteor darkness?
static wadi
why do u want farming
brisk trail
Probably one of my favorite games lowkey.
orchid meteor
yeah darkness and nectar and other items that last within runs
static wadi
when you can just do run
gusty slate
There are farming upgrades
brisk trail
I want a franchise of HADES games.
gusty slate
Posiedon and Chaos have boons for that
inland leaf
I picked up the game yesterday, I was wondering if people knew the most effective way of farming for permanent upgrades
@orchid meteor At first you just need to farm, nothing's gonna make it quick
static wadi
@orchid meteor u can|| do 0 heat runs with dark thirst weapon with chaos and poseidon upgrades for darkness||
frozen ice
I want d4. Every game since d2 has been just placating until d2 version 2.
inland leaf
@static wadi I don't think he has ||heat|| yet
static wadi
@inland leaf so he can just do what i say
gusty slate
Just gotta keep playing, can't really make the grind that much faster sadly
Although, beating bosses will change their drop to darkness for future trounces... and with contractor upgrade, gems
fair dove
60 hours into the game and I’m kind of burnt out
Idk what to do anymore
It’s just the same thing again and again
Climbing heats
brisk trail
60 hours is good, keep in mind it was a $25 game.
inland leaf
There is lots to do
crimson canopy
take a break then! It's not going anywhere 🙂
brisk trail
True
native orbit
I am 300 hours in and still learning about the game
fair dove
60 hours is good, keep in mind it was a $25 game.
@brisk trail factual statement
Bought it at 20 lol
brisk trail
You got your money’s worth.
brisk trail
Same
crimson canopy
there's no reason to force yourself to play if you're not feeling it right now lol
brisk trail
Where did you get the HADES role?
fair dove
there's no reason to force yourself to play if you're not feeling it right now lol
@crimson canopy true
brisk trail
there’s no reason to force yourself to play if you’re not feeling it right now lol
@crimson canopy I take breaks from Super Smash Bros all the time
orchid meteor
What's the quickest way to get a lot of titan blood when you start the game
fair dove
Where did you get the HADES role?
@brisk trail #bot-commands
What's the quickest way to get a lot of titan blood when you start the game
@Ahmad.#8726 just win
Climb the heats
Do the prophecies
gusty slate
Titan blood is a slow grind
brisk trail
Got the role
crimson canopy
ahmad ||beat the first boss w each weapon|| is the fastest/easiest to get a few imo
fair dove
Do the one of winning with every ||condition in the pact||
inland leaf
@orchid meteor same as your question before, you need to patiently farm
brisk trail
No
orchid meteor
hmm
fair dove
No
crimson canopy
not w the same weapon until you unlock the ||pact of punishment/heat|| system and use it
fair dove
Not unless u turn up ||the heat|| which can only happen after u beat the game once
not w the same weapon until you unlock the pact of punishment/heat system and use it
@crimson canopy I believe ||the pact|| is spoilers here
Although not sure
static wadi
@fair dove yes it is
crimson canopy
ok, thanks for the heads up
brisk trail
Started playing the game last night and lowkey I don’t think Hades is a bad guy. He’s super overprotective however. I think he just doesn’t want to be alone.
gusty slate
Agreed
crimson canopy
Haha just wait and see what's in store!
gusty slate
I like pretty much all the characters
brisk trail
Plus it’s not like he chose that life he was given it, it’s his purpose.
Haha just wait and see what’s in store!
@crimson canopy if I’m being honest I only trust Hades
I always thought that whenever Hades is portrayed as the bad guy whether that be in shows, games, movies, or mythology that it was really bogus. Hades didn’t choose to rule over the Underworld it’s his life’s purpose. Zeus obviously got the better end of the deal and Poseidon got the ocean.
In my opinion it just seems like a dude doing his job.
crimson canopy
it's going to be weird watching hercules again after playing so much hades
queen wharf
Anyone else having a problem booting Hades on Steam for Windows? It just hangs. I've tried verifying the integrity of the game files.
static wadi
@queen wharf no problems here
queen wharf
I'll take a look, thanks.
gusty slate
Hope you figure it out
gusty slate
I don't see why not
fresh steppe
you should be able to
random plover
I had 2 back to back runs where Zeus, Dionysus and Poseidon gave me their duo boons and another where Poseidon wouldn't ever give me one
gusty slate
Good 'ol RNG
random plover
static wadi
@gusty slate there is no such thing as RNG in Hades i told it too many times
all in Fates hand
eh
why chaos boons for money do not work with Hermes boon for money?(
gusty slate
Me saying it's RNG is also in the Fates' hands 
formal mauve
Anyone else having a very difficult time getting Rush Delivery and Hunter Instinct to pop up on a boon list despite having the prerequisites
static wadi
also it doesnt work with well Midas item
Rush delivery is rare yes
saw it 2 times only iirc
what is hunter instinct? artemuis?
gusty slate
I believe so
meager barn
rush delivery was a pain in the ass to get
meager barn
only 2-3 hermes boons per run
so if you dont get one of the two relevant boons or lambent plume the first time youre screwed
static wadi
so all mirrors upgrade interact only with base damage????
inland leaf
I think so
static wadi
that's suck
meager barn
yeah i think so as well
gusty slate
Can get some pretty big pluses, since hammers upgrade base damage
If I recall correctly
static wadi
well mb
inland leaf
Hammers can be so op, it hurts
meager barn
the 50% buffs arent as dramatic a change as they should be
gusty slate
I still prefer the slow/weak
meager barn
ie. stacked with urge to kill and aphrodite
crisp zodiac
All of the +es are additive.
formal mauve
Just glad to know it is indeed a pain and that I wasn't just messing it up some how. I'll keep trying
gusty slate
Yeah, good luck!
tacit oracle
is it just me or is it kinda impossible to react fast enough for fishing to get the rare/legendary stuff?
tacit oracle
i know
gusty slate
Not terrible, but lol... ok it is sorta terrible
tacit oracle
its super terrible
meager barn
does it change based on which locale its in?
tacit oracle
no
gusty slate
The timing is the same I believe
Just gotta be fast when you see the light/sound/vibrationoncontroller?
tacit oracle
you always have to have lightning reflexes
gusty slate
I gotta phone good 'ol uncle Zeus to give that to me
meager barn
i always have a harder time with ||chaos room|| and ||post hades room|| so i thought maybe the timing changes
im probably just getting nervous bc theyre harder to get spawning
static wadi
greedy athena didnt give me her leg(
meager barn
would be cool if the poseidon boon also made it easier to get legendary
random plover
The poseidon dionysus duo?
elfin breach
So I still need to finish a run with jury summons, calisthenics and forced overtime for pact modifiers and fiery presence, stubborn defiance, abyssal blood, stygian soul, golden touch, high confidence, family favorite, God's legacy and dark foresight for mirror buffs (pretty much ignored the green talents up until now). Any combos with pacts/talents to definitely avoid?
Also does dark foresight increase resource gain or just the chance to get those chambers?
static wadi
@elfin breach just do|| some lo heat run changing past aspects||
what is dark foresight
gusty slate
Uh, just chance for those chambers?
elfin breach
Some mirror talent that looks poopy
Really the main ones throwing me off are stubborn defiance and the one that isnt the +50hp
elfin breach
Yeah I got wrecked on the final boss with that lol. If I run that I'm gonna do the mirror talent that slows enemies with shards in them and try to pick up at least one chill skill
also the double dash instead of the dash damage boost
gusty slate
Calisthenics is also surprisingly hard
elfin breach
Really I'm at the point where the only things that give me trouble are the end bosses, particularly the last 2. I can't remember the last time I wiped on a standard encounter
gusty slate
I mean it's fine, but it sorta sneaks up on you
Sounds like you got the pacts in the bag
The mirror talents, you might just have to do a few runs and combos lol
elfin breach
What about stubborn defiance though lol
gusty slate
SD is fine, can use Skelly boyo tooth on final
elfin breach
I kinda rely on just eating a few death defiances bc im not amazing at the game
gusty slate
Ah I see
autumn hare
You having trouble with Asterius and the other guy?
elfin breach
Thats what I was doing lol
gusty slate
Athena/Dem duo is nice
elfin breach
Not asterius really but I do usually at least take some decent damage from them
autumn hare
try out shield tbf
best weapon for safe runs imo
shield with athena + dyonysius is good
elfin breach
Yeah I try to do the dark thirst weapoj though and I havent gotten the shield in like 10 runs lol
gusty slate
Pair dark foresight with the room reroll(?). Since you're seeing more 'gold' rooms can reroll them into things
autumn hare
yeah thats rough
gusty slate
Although boon reroll is still super good lol
elfin breach
Yeah I prefer boon reroll for sure
gusty slate
But sounds like you shouldn't pair SD with green dash
pairing SD with Abyssal blood might be a good idea, enemies move slower/less damage. I main Abyssal tbh
keep double dash though
elfin breach
Hmm ok thanks. I'll try that out with a shield and save FO for a shield death defiance run
gusty slate
Yeah some boons can really make or break the 'off-talent' runs
Good luck! You know what you're doing 👍
static wadi
so secret bow aspect is ||like chiron backwards?||
dawn lantern
WOO WOO I FINALLY KILLED THE HYDRA
candid bolt
lol i guess thats one way to put it
wise sparrow
elfin breach
Oh actually another talent I'm having issue with is the one that heals you based on darkness gained and not +healing per floor. Guessing that's best paired with the room reroll?
gusty slate
Eh, not required
If you do a run where yo ualready beat all the bosses, it's free heals. troves are nice
Makes any form of darkness a heal
elfin breach
True but you get a fountain at the end of bosses anyway
gusty slate
Darkness troves have more meaning
thorny thorn
the +3 health per room heal is pretty garbage I've found
gusty slate
I mean they both work, I like having darkness heals
thorny thorn
I much much more love darkness heals, like a single trove outheals a whole game of room heals
gusty slate
Charon: I'm only selling darkness today
tribal glade
i like the consistency of room heals
gusty slate
free heals!... at a cost
tribal glade
keeps me topped up in the last section 😛
gusty slate
Yeah, both are good
tepid plover
I much much more love darkness heals, like a single trove outheals a whole game of room heals
Thats all good until you get it and you're full, or you get like no darkness the whole game
thorny thorn
well I have around 200 completed runs and I've never had that happen to me
and if I'm full that's not a big deal either
gusty slate
Whatever works for you 👍
thorny thorn
well Styx is the 'is my build working' zone for me lol
tepid plover
Nah, thats the champion for me 🤣
If I can beat the champion, I can win the game
Well by champion i mean his assistant, thats the real threat
static wadi
well sometimes listenning his speeches killing me too
thorny thorn
lol messed up the spoilers I guess
blazing kettle
To unlock the locked hearts, is it just gonna eventually trigger an interraction or do i have to do somethinf
gusty slate
Eventually will unlock, need to do a favour most of th etime
So talking to everyone and taking note of what that character wants is a good move. As some favours involve multiple people's input
thorny thorn
it should be
pretty straightforward
just visit everyone every time you get back
and eventually you'll get there
gusty slate
Hypnos is the one that is out of your way I guess
That favour involves ||dying to Asterius. Then Asterius and Theseus(?) some||
junior brook
i wish i had as much self esteem as ||theseus||
calm vapor
does favor increase chances of better boons? I kinda stop giving gods nectar once I get their trinkets...but if there are other reasons to continue doing so like what I said I'll keep at it
gusty slate
No, but building bonds is good
static wadi
@calm vapor it gives nothing for gameplay
calm vapor
gotcha....was just checking in case I've been missing out on anything this whole time lol
gusty slate
There are certain NPCs that have more to them with their bonds
So to be safe it's good to build all the bonds
static wadi
@calm vapor only thing is working for rarity is their trinkets and mirror
calm vapor
oh yea I'm aware...certain quests tied to the list of fates
static wadi
well also some boons some buffs but mostly mirror and keepsakes
ok got bouldy boons
this should be good run
junior brook
how do you unlock bouldy boons?
static wadi
it's kinda joke buddy
junior brook
im new sorry
frozen shoal
who plays on pc and switch ??
hazy jasper
Is Kinetic Launcher not compatible with Gilgamesh and Talos? I keep getting different answers
random plover
@junior brook I think it's either a post-game thing, or something you get when your relationship with Sisyphus is high enough
mossy lily
the moment when thanatos portrait looks straight at you for the first time
static wadi
@mossy lily it's scary right?
mossy lily
it was
tepid plover
Is wholesome
mossy lily
surprising
static wadi
that Tomatos guy is creepy
tepid plover
static wadi
i guess it happens when you are death personification
random plover
Just imagine he's tommy wiseau and he'll stop being creepy
static wadi
i'm afraid hades could miss roguelike popularity
brisk trail
I haven’t even finished Hades and it’s already my favorite Indie of all time. Possibly in my top 10 favorite games of all time.
tepid plover
Isnt like your typical dungeon crawler tbh, especially if you're not into mythology
random plover
brisk trail
Isnt like your typical dungeon crawler tbh, especially if you’re not into mythology
@tepid plover I love mythology
I’m a history nerd
tepid plover
Me too
brisk trail
I plan on majoring in it in College
tepid plover
But not everyone is like us brother
static wadi
well SGG changed mythology
brisk trail
That’s fine.
static wadi
i mean sometimes their lore not quite good with myths
brisk trail
I like it as long as it’s loosely based.
tepid plover
I just love starting a while different run
static wadi
and SGG gods are not looks like greek gods
brisk trail
I like loosely based fantasy mythology.
sharp fossil
speaking of lore
brisk trail
It’s cool seeing what people come up with.
brisk trail
In actual mythology they are half brothers
tepid plover
Lmfao
brisk trail
Same mom
tepid plover
Same dad
brisk trail
Different dads
tepid plover
Oh wait different dada
brisk trail
No Hades and Zeus are not the same
brisk trail
I’m talking about mythology not the game
sharp fossil
well, it’s debated
static wadi
@sharp fossil there is ingame joke about it
sharp fossil
in some versions of the myth they are the same person lol
static wadi
but no spoilers
sharp fossil
yup
tepid plover
I know
brisk trail
In mythology they fused or something I’m pretty sure
tepid plover
||zag pranks orpheus with it||
brisk trail
Idk Zagreus’s backstory is very debated on
Not much is known
People say different things
opaque nexus
I got the dumbest speedrun PB ever
static wadi
well lots of ancieant myths have lots of versions
opaque nexus
I was using the wrong companion and not only that but for the first few rooms I was using mouse instead of controller
sharp fossil
yeah kinda goes with the territory
greek myth was before they invented fanfic, so everything was canon
brisk trail
True but for gods like Zeus we know pretty much everything for gods like Zagreus very little is known.
sharp fossil
yeah
static wadi
Zag is Hades
brisk trail
I heard that also
static wadi
and sometimes Zag is Zeus son
brisk trail
Some believe he is actually Hades
tepid plover
Zag is little Hades
brisk trail
I think him being the son of Hades makes more sense
static wadi
well that's true
brisk trail
I really don’t want this to be the end of Zagreus. I hope they make a second game or dlc. Make it into a series. I feel like this could easily evolve into something on par with 2010 Zelda in like the year 2032.
static wadi
good thing should be ended when they are good
static wadi
it's better than let them be long enough untill they become bad
brisk trail
True but I will forever look back at this game wanting more
opaque nexus
Quick someone buy the rights to zagreus
tepid plover
The game is completely fine (complete) as of right now
brisk trail
Luckily I’m not done yet
narrow hemlock
and thats a sign of a good game.
opaque nexus
tepid plover
Sure id love some more content, but is fine if it doesn't happen
brisk trail
Quick someone buy the rights to zagreus
@opaque nexus I WAS JUST THINKING THIS! IF I WAS A MILLIONAIRE I WOULD JUST BUY THE STUDIO AND MAKE SO MUCH MERCH AND STUFF
opaque nexus
Dusa and bouldy plush please
narrow hemlock
just because you think thats a great idea doesnt inherently mean it is haha
indigo nest
YES
opaque nexus
It would be profitable I swear
indigo nest
give me a dusa plush
opaque nexus
Trust me I have a PhD in money
random plover
Noo lord hades! Don't turn me into a marketable plushie
opaque nexus
indigo nest
gimme plushes of dusa and a squirt
sand stump
Perfect clear is the whole run without getting hit?
opaque nexus
I went to money school
static wadi
@sand stump is it possible?
brisk trail
The year is 2035 SGG is now owned by Nintendo and people are begging for a sequel to Hades. They say no. 2040 they deliver, it’s trash. We all cry knowing no game will ever top Hades.
sand stump
I dont know
static wadi
sounds pretty hard
opaque nexus
That’s some darkest timeline stuff
static wadi
@brisk trail half life 3
brisk trail
I wonder if Hades will get an active fanbase for years to come like Undertale which will never get new content.
mossy lily
opaque nexus
Good games never die
brisk trail
tepid plover
a single player game never reallly dies
opaque nexus
What I mean is, people are still gonna remember and talk about this game for a long time
brisk trail
The year is 2030 Hades hasn’t gotten new content since it’s initial release in 2020. The game has been ported at least 6 times on different consoles and devices.
narrow hemlock
so like. bastion?
brisk trail
I never played Bastion so I have no attachment to it.
What type of merchandise does SGG typically do?
Or not at all?
I would love some Hades merchandise for Christmas.
narrow hemlock
the comparison here is that bastion has gotten many ports but no further content since release, other than a one-off dlc that was included in later ports i think https://gyazo.com/cf6c862a90ecc9662067eacd566afe50
brisk trail
Forgot the Vita existed.
narrow hemlock
everyone but japan did! but yes
brisk trail
Don’t even know what a Linux is.
brisk trail
static wadi
narrow hemlock
they said for a while they likely werent going to do merch until post launch. and right now their priority is keeping an eye on launch status to ensure it runs smoothly
merch isnt really that high on the priority totem pole atm
narrow hemlock
i have the shirt, its soft
static wadi
prices are too much for russia i should say(
brisk trail
$14.99 CD seems cool but I can just listen to the music on my phone.
@narrow hemlock good quality shirt?
narrow hemlock
from the few times ive worn it, yes.
and i have the cd sitting on my desk rn lol.
i mostly wanted to continue supporting them
brisk trail
HOLY
They only have 20 employees?!
Look online says they only got 20.
Damn that’s a small team.
tepid plover
last i knew they were 13
static wadi
iirc it was even less
narrow hemlock
they brought on some people for hades but yeah they're a fairly small studio
brisk trail
Damn
That’s impressive
I realize now what I was asking for was unrealistic
I’m talking as if this studio is a money hungry capitalist corporation trying to seize the moment to make profit off of mediocre merch. This is obviously a small team who cares about what they do and put a lot of effort and heart into what it is they do. If they do release more merchandise it will be good quality and in limited quantity.
Which is fine by me.
brisk trail
It’s nice to see some studios still care
I enjoyed Pokemon Shield but it was obviously rushed.
Just so they can make millions every 2 years releasing mediocre Pokémon games.
Shame.
Seeing a small studio who cares more about the craft is refreshing.
opaque nexus
That’s why indie games became popular in the first place
People were tired of huge corporations
static wadi
@opaque nexus we still have hope in CDPR
zealous timber
For those of us joining us in the Test Branch -- we've pushed a new build there which has changes you can now read about in #test-branch-updates.
static wadi
btw i didnt understand it's like betatest server?
dawn lantern
where can i go to like see if people are streaming i wanna watch someone play 🙂
tepid plover
Twitch
dawn lantern
yes but like is there a channel where people can advertise themselves or something
or are their voice channels?
dawn lantern
ok thx
calm vapor
first time I've ever had to input a code for a test branch....wonder why they did it that way
brisk trail
Bastion came out in 2011
Transistor came out in 2014
Pyre came out in 2017
Hades came out in 2020
Notice the pattern?
New game in 2023 (unless Covid delays it)
That’s my guess
calm laurel
static wadi
do you hear SGG? Zagreus and SharkPusher are not going to make any pressure on you
brisk trail
Games similar to hades? Rogue like hack and slash etc..??
supple field
those other games are games that supergiant made before hades
static wadi
ah u mean sgg games
brisk trail
And they’re similar to dead cells?
supple field
not really
static wadi
he is
brisk trail
Didn’t think a small studio would put this much effort
I guess I need to raise my standards.
Sorry if I sound like I’m over exaggerating or whatever I just never realized the beauty of indie games made by small studios until now.
I usually just ignore indie games.
At least I used to.
static wadi
there are lot of problems with indies too
esp with Early Access
but Supergiant have reputation so i never doubted
supple field
somehow i've gotten the epilogue but i still havent finished the damn lute prophecy
brisk trail
esp with Early Access
@static wadi this is something that has definitely kept me away
I heard some never get finished
Then you don’t get your money back
static wadi
lots of
brisk trail
I don’t think I would ever support an early access indie. Unless I have 100% faith in it.
The game and the studio.
supple field
also who's bright idea was it to let flame chariots into erebus 
static wadi
little with cat noises?
supple field
yes
static wadi
well they are easier
supple field
well its impossible for me to dodge them without getting hit
supple field
i got charged by 4 of them at once
static wadi
i wonder if well item for those things works for erebus
little tip
if u exit from game while door opening animation or elevator - u will be back in room after loading
helps when u see golden urn in room you leaving
or forgot to swap trinket or changed mind
sometimes doesnt work
when u used midas or something
worn umbra
what does dark foresight, like, do
static wadi
what is it?
worn umbra
does it just like
calm vapor
The progression in this game is something I've never really seen in any game before....the way it naturally flows and every detail accounted for in the dialogue...really outstanding tbh...initially I sorta brushed this game off as more dead cells but I'm quite glad I gave it another go
worn umbra
reduce the rate that gemstones and darkness and such appear?
in favor of the other things i mean
it's a bit confusing
opaque heron
That’s reversing it but basically yes
It increases the chance of getting ‘gold laurel’ doors, which means you get more resources that are only for that run (eg: Hearts/Obols/Poms/Boons)
So in a sense it also decreases the chance of getting ‘blue laurel’ doors, which have Darkness/Gems/Keys/Nectar
latent junco
Have people made mods for the game?
opaque heron
Yeah, they’re subtle but there
static wadi
@latent junco yes
static wadi
one cool guy made great practice mod for me year ago
latent junco
I was hpoing there was a mod which added apollo
apollo's game mechanics would be so cool cuz he could have interesting synerfies with artemis
static wadi
i stil want Gefest
supple field
what
latent junco
Gefest?
supple field
hephaestus?
latent junco
Hephaestus?
static wadi
lol imagine find Exclusive access in last styx room when shop already empty
yeah that one
static wadi
||just used hades thing vs him lol it was so funny "FATHER!!!" "WHAT??!!!"||
tight prairie
Asked in another channel but maybe this is the right one
Hello, anyone know if is it’s possible to get the sundial dialogue with hades after the true ending? I was googling how to complete the house contractor and I can’t find anything on sundial. I exhausted all conversations with everyone, maxed relationships and bought more than 44 decorations. I play on switch if it’s relevant.
lunar cypress
So what's the ||Garden|| for? Is it more unlocks? Can I potentially grow buffs or something in there?
fresh steppe
short answer no
lunar cypress
Aw...
tepid plover
In case anyone needs any confirmation, the ||sack|| was in the last chamber for me rn
vernal obsidian
Yesterday I got to Elysium
plain hill
so for the prophecy to help ||dusa with the lounge, how many upgrades am I gonna need? is it specific ones? just all of them? or what's the idea?||
zealous flare
It's not all of them which is surprising
There's probably an exact number on the wiki, but I just kept buying them and the next time I talked to her I was already done
lunar cypress
Why're all the "reverse" trades for less valuable currencies so...poor?
plain hill
I dumped my gems into nectar for forever, so it's taking forever to accumulate enough to complete this lol
latent junco
How do I up the performance in the game
the frame drops and lag sometimes make it unplayable
tribal glade
get it on switch?
brisk trail
Wow Ares+Artemis Duo boon for cast is awesome
tribal glade
but seriously, have a look at #h1-tech-fixes and if that doesnt help then ask in #h1-tech-support - @latent junco
latent junco
thanks
brave turtle
Do you know when would the update with cross-saves to switch comes?
Or at least somewhat comes..
Also, they would announce that in here, right?
zealous flare
Just later this year. It seems like they might have thrown themselves into the vortex releasing 1.0 on both platforms, I'm hoping they get a breather before jumping on the coals again for cross-save.
stark quail
Mmm, out of all the Gods, ||Demeter ||has definitely got to be the scariest one for me
She just seems so... ruthless
Combine that with ||a mother's longing for her child|| and BOOM all out war
brave turtle
Just later this year. It seems like they might have thrown themselves into the vortex releasing 1.0 on both platforms, I'm hoping they get a breather before jumping on the coals again for cross-save.
@zealous flare
I mean yes I agree... but also it seemed like that was the last thing that they were not done with... I suppose only the technical people are trying to work on that.. maybe testers as well? Since they are solving bugs from launching 1.0 anyway
north pier
Dusa wants me, ||fish|| fear me
visual portal
I need only 2 more achievements until i have all of them on steam
The level all keepsakes and || gets skelly’s second prize ||
gilded fractal
It seems Thanatos stopped appearing for me in the House whatsoever
ffs
I can't get the last heart on him and Hypnos as well because of that, I guess
zealous flare
I believe you need to find Thanatos on a run, and do a Thanatos clear room before you'll find him in the House.
He appears in there after a room with him.
wind wedge
For me, he only really turned up reliably if encountered him in-run, yeah
brisk trail
why is this game so good and addictive
gilded fractal
The thing is he appears in the runs REALLY rare as well
Like once in 6-7 runs
Making full runs starts to get annoying after 100+ clears
wind wedge
...wait, you're at 100 clears and haven't maxed him out yet?
gilded fractal
He was the last one I started giving nectars to... wish I knew sooner
dusk mantle
|| Gilgamesh || or || Arthur || for next unlock?
muted valley
if im not mistaken, if you take a good amount of dmg in a room, the next room has a higher chance of getting Than
RNG decides all
but i think|| Gilgamesh|| is usually the last one you get i think
so prolly|| arthur||
dusk mantle
I have both but I was wondering where to invest thr titan blood
muted valley
i suggest the fist one, since it gives you more dmg
dusk mantle
I struggle with heavy weapon style though. That's why I hate spear. Spinning takes way too long and not worth it in terms of dmg
cloud apex
All 4th aspects being slow doesn't help
muted valley
pro tip: when charging the spin, you can release by dashing
and it follows you like how the final boss does it
dusk mantle
Yeah I've tried that but the spin is interruptible iirc
young charm
TIL Kiss of Styx Premium gives you 4 Death Defiances if you have the Lucky Tooth equipped as well
muted valley
it takes time
dusk mantle
Maybe some sturdy boon
cloud apex
Mmm, they are probably the opposite of underwhelming
young charm
Almost saved my pretty weak start of a run
cloud apex
Like, you are given great power that is hard to handle
muted valley
it renews all DD's no matter from where, whether it be skelly's or chaos'
young charm
Good to know
muted valley
however if you run stubborn defiance, it doesnt replenish them
young charm
Even more reason not to run it for me
stray breach
The omega spin spear is easiest for me to use other than cast thrown spear cheese
muted valley
omega?
stray breach
I forget what its called but the one you charge a bunch
The big aoe spin attack that debuffs people
muted valley
Lol i have no clue what ur talking abt, and spear is one my more preferred weapons
ahhhh
hades aspect
not a debuff
its more of like how a cast works
stray breach
Doesn't count for privilaged status? The more you know
cloud apex
Stubborn defiance's variant of Styx Premium is lowkey immortality for 15 encounters tho
muted valley
no it doesnt, only stuff you get from gods counts towards to PS
lol its one of my fav patty gifts, followed by that sweet attack
also really good on LC4
stray breach
LC4? wut that, havent done much high heat stuff so i dont know a lot of the acronyms
also if real crabbar is really appreciate the vids, terraria is one of my fav games
cloud apex
That's Lasting Consequences 4 (-100% healing)
ty ty
stray breach
ah, i see, the lose the game heat level
cloud apex
Definitely not worse than "game plays itself" (Approval Process 2) 
stray breach
"whats this concept called 'player agency' never heard of it" dev who made that option
i kid i kid
robust sundial
anyone know how many gemstones you need to completely redecorate House of Hades
exotic flame
Does anyone have a cool/quick hades denied/approved video/gif?
sharp fossil
CHAOS LEGENDARY FISH YO
THIS IS THE GREATEST MOMENT OF MY LIFE
all my training has finally paid off
lucid sigil
Just purchased Hades, currently downloading. I'm excited!
static wadi
have fun
lucid sigil
Thanks! Haven't tried this kind of game before 😄 But I watched the documentary of the making of Hades and the reviews are through the roof
And the art style, voice acting is awesome
static wadi
music
lucid sigil
Oh that too!
static wadi
dont forget this important part
lucid sigil
Yes 😄 I've tried to avoid listening to the story and music until I play it, but I heard the music is also great
unkempt sleet
That happens for mostly every god but Zeus has Double Strike and Splitting Bolt
lucid sigil
How is controller support? Or should I play m&k?
granite ether
personal preference
lucid sigil
Roger that
wise stratus
Hey. Is it possible to remove ||titan blood|| from your weapons?
sharp fossil
It is not
if you haven't completed a run yet you can quit out of the game and it will reload to the courtyard, i believe
but if you've finished a run, you're stuck with your choices
unkempt sleet
You have to give up, not quit
unkempt sleet
There are very few bad choices in Titan blood speding early
sharp fossil
honestly yeah
wise stratus
I just want the option to use unupgraded weapons
sharp fossil
you're prolly gonna wanna unlock/upgrade most of the weapons eventually regardless
oh
yeah to do that you gotta start a new save basically
mellow pumice
I've been recycling most of my ambrosia for titan blood and can't say i really regret it lol
brisk trail
I chose to upgrade my zag weapons first
and yeah. recycle ambrosia early on
I also refrain from spending too many gems on decorating until after I recycle some.
Remember the motto of Hell! REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE!
bright field
Where can you use the blood? I have like 4 and no idea what to do with em
tropic quiver
You'll know once you unlock all weapons
bright field
I have!
static wadi
@bright field unlock all weapon and make 1 run
bright field
Hmm...thought I had. But will do so again
crude sorrel
||what?? hades just lets me go through||
brisk trail
||that’ll only happen once and you should get the credits after I’m pretty sure. but i could be wrong||
crude sorrel
||yeah, seems the story ended, really enjoyed it :)||
granite ether
||there's still more don't you worry ^_^||
robust sundial
@crude sorrel Yeah, ||the end of the main storyline comes rather quickly if you ask me, but it's far from the end of the game... I'd rather say it's the end of the tutorial, or prologue, or chapter one...||
after that you get ||the real endgame|| and ||weirdly placed spoiler tags|| and ||fishing trips are easier|| up there, which - let's be honest - is a real treat and respite after all that adrenaline ramping up your nerve-wracked system and so on and so forth.
but I digress
crude sorrel
||whats the real end game?|| @robust sundial
robust sundial
@crude sorrel I'd say ||petting cerberus|| but honesty dictates ||i tell you about the epilogue when you've maxed out the relationships and decorated everything and done the max heat on every weapon|| etc...
brisk trail
^^
robust sundial
because those ||gemstones|| are a pain in the ||***|| to collect in great numbers. Also ||(Titan) Blood & Darkness||, as they say in the underworld.
crude sorrel
aight cool
vapid narwhal
Needs to get to redacted
wise stratus
Does Blood Frenzy stack?
fading gazelle
No it does not
robust sundial
If I put more than one blood shard in an enemy, does it count for damage calculations, like that +50% for foes with shards in them, does it goes to +100 or +150% with two or three shards ?
tawdry flower
No, effectively 1 is treated the same as many
fading gazelle
It doesn't stack
robust sundial
thought so, thanks
tawdry flower
The only one that’s different would be if you got the boon to damage on those being removed
crude sorrel
can you alter blue laurel only into another blue laurel?
fading gazelle
Yes
crude sorrel
kk thx
fading gazelle
Np 
inland prism
Hi everyone ! A question
inland prism
I consider picking g the game for the switch, however the last rouge like game I played was dead cells
Do you find hades have enough weapons to never get bored ?
fading gazelle
Yes
sharp fossil
yes
storm plover
||how do I unlock Demeter's blessings?||
inland prism
Not sure it’s the best compare but in dead cells there are plenty of weapons
Is it the same with hades?
sharp fossil
there are 24 in hades
which iirc is much less than dead cells
but hades also has a whole pile of boons, so i don't know that build options are that much smaller
my experience with dead cells is fairly limited tho
fading gazelle
Hades definitely does not compare to the plethora of weapons in dead cells but they have 6 weapons, each weapon equipped with 4 variant playstyles. Along with that, the different boon combinations help with its replayability
fading gazelle
The gods bless you with their powers to help you get through the run
sharp fossil
special powers and buffs you find throughout a run
sharp fossil
naturally, we at the SGG discord advise that you play it lol
fading gazelle
@storm plover Reaching the final boss once, will allow Demeter to spawn
sharp fossil
but for real its super good
inland prism
Yea I saw some gameplay and it looks super solid and smooth
crisp zodiac
It's so good that some of us give each other eShop codes and say, "Go buy this now."
Legit.
inland prism
What platform do u play?
fading gazelle
PC
fading gazelle
Very interesting
small aurora
Especially when you realise that Hades literally called his dog spot
fossil pollen
ok, this is frustrating as tartarus
fading gazelle
?
fossil pollen
its the 5th time i defeated the minutaur and partner with the challenge active
and meet poseidon
still no fate done
Poseidon just keep saying random things
fossil pollen
Cursed month?
small aurora
Tartarus is supposed to be the worst place to be in mythology
novel wasp
tartar sauce is a great sauce
small aurora
So it just makes sense for it to be frustrating
novel wasp
oh lawd he comin
fading gazelle
Got any new cursed content for us?
fossil pollen
any tips on that other than "keep trying?"
novel wasp
yes. one in work
small aurora
Punch everything in the face when youre outside of the house
fading gazelle
@fossil pollen you can spam poseidon by dying in the first room and equipping his keepsake
fossil pollen
ohh, thats a good trick
fading gazelle
So he'll always be the first boon
fossil pollen
lame one, but useful
fading gazelle
That way you can get through his dialogue pretty quickly
small aurora
For a while i used Cerberus' momento a lot at the start
novel wasp
bruh momento
small aurora
It gives you more health
small aurora
Im chilling here with 50 health again
novel wasp
never take high confidence cause that thing is big trash energy lmao
small aurora
It was good at the start till i got the egg of suffering
fading gazelle
Lmao I agree
novel wasp
if it were say 50% it would be waaaay more useful
fading gazelle
Thick skin is clearly better
small aurora
I leveled the cerberus momento to max level
novel wasp
even if they buffed the damage
it still kinda is useless unless you are using say ||GY||
as if ||gy ||isnt already busted enough by itself lmao
small aurora
I like swapping my weapon each runthrough
robust sundial
dark thirst FTW
fading gazelle
haha, spear goes brrr
fading gazelle
I love every weapon, but I have a soft spot for spear and sword
small aurora
The time as come
brisk trail
I haven’t gotten the spear yet but I love the shield
small aurora
Aries has shown up right out of the gates finally
small aurora
You can block in this game???
robust sundial
you need THE shield though
small aurora
Goes to show how chaotic i have been XD
brisk trail
I believe it costs 4 keys
small aurora
Using the shield to hit people instead of as a shield to defend myself
brisk trail
It’s actually quite helpful especially with those pesky skulls that float
small aurora
I just throw my shield at them
brisk trail
Same but if you have multiple on you blocking is helpful
small aurora
How do i block?
brisk trail
I remember better by holding a controller but I think you just hold one of the buttons
Forgot which one
I need to actually play to remember
I’m a physical rememberer
fading gazelle
If you charge up the shield for the bull rush, you can hold the animation to block all damage that comes form the front
brisk trail
Ya idk why I only remember while playing
If you ask me when I’m not playing I have no idea
Same goes for Super Smash Bros
small aurora
So far i think Aries would be best suited for my play style
brisk trail
You talking about the god?
small aurora
Yeah
brisk trail
Oh I love him.
small aurora
The whole kill everything before anything kills you playstyle
brisk trail
At first I was thinking why is he black, but I think the darker skin tone looks better and can’t imagine him as a white guy now.
small aurora
His design is awesome
brisk trail
Personally I wish his outfit was red and white is head of yellow and white but it still looks amazing.
small aurora
It would look in crimson too
fading gazelle
Ares is just hot
brisk trail
My favorite of the gods in this game is the god of wine. 🍷
small aurora
Because crimson isnthe colour of blood
Acording to mythology ||zagreus went to the surface to declare war on olympus|| last time i checked
brisk trail
Zagreus in mythology is heavily debated about
It’s all up in the air
Some believe he is the god of wine or some believe he merged with him some believe they are half brothers
It’s complicated
fading gazelle
Some believe he is the god of wine or one believe he merged with him some believe they are half brothers
This is referenced in the game
small aurora
Greek mythology is complex
brisk trail
Especially because they are all related yet still shagging
We don’t know how some are related but we know they are
small aurora
And zues is just sleeping with EVERYTHING THAT MOVES
novel wasp
more like people like to write things down and everybody has their own canon
its not a bad thing consider we didnt even get more than 2 sources from norse mythology
meanwhile greek is just full of em except dark age
brisk trail
Norse mythology had Loki shagging with a horse
small aurora
Didnt he produce a snake offspring?
subtle cobalt
So zagreus isn't hades' son in any source?
brisk trail
No he is
Some believe Zagreus is Hades though
Like I said his origin is super up in the air
Some believe he is Zeus’s son
flat vapor
there’s like one snippet somewhere that says he’s hades’ son
brisk trail
It’s very complicated
small aurora
In some stories he is hade's son
brisk trail
Persephone is definitely the mom we know that
small aurora
Is basically the results of a godly love triangle
brisk trail
That’s a fair point
It’s not surprising people don’t know who the daddy is since she gets around
subtle cobalt
She a ho?
brisk trail
All the gods/goddesses are
small aurora
Maybe persehhone is telling both Zues and Hades a bunch of lies about who the real father is
My sister's dog is named Zues btw
fading gazelle
Guys remember to keep the channel a bit clean
brisk trail
Switch
fading gazelle
There isn't much of a difference
fading gazelle
I play with a controller and mouse so I get the best of both worlds
tame sigil
quick question
tame sigil
is there a limit on how many times i can fish? cuz for me it seems two is the max
small aurora
It wasnt a question i think it was a statement
tame sigil
i always want to fish in the ||greece||
mortal wadi
there isnt
brisk trail
I’m not at the fishing thing yet
small aurora
There is fishing?
fading gazelle
There technically isn't a limit
inland prism
Go for the Switch
@brisk trail is there an R button?
mortal wadi
although it happened less to me after the first 2 times
brisk trail
@brisk trail is there an R button?
@inland prism yes
tame sigil
weird
inland prism
Right joycon is dead sadly
subtle cobalt
Hopefully they make dlc for this game
fading gazelle
You'll have to wait for those since SGG is gonna take a well deserved break after they ship out these next few updates
subtle cobalt
Yeah i know
small aurora
Ares or Aphrodite?
subtle cobalt
Still hope they make it
fading gazelle
Depends on you what your build is currently Skooma
small aurora
I have only ares and Aphrodite as the choice of gates to use
fading gazelle
What weapon?
mortal wadi
i prefer ares
small aurora
Sword this run
fading gazelle
Go for Ares and put him on Attack
small aurora
Alrighty
fading gazelle
or special
brisk trail
I have only ares and Aphrodite as the choice of gates to use
@small aurora Considered the 2 sexiest gods
small aurora
The third gate is gold but i dont need gold
fading gazelle
Gold is always nice thoough
brisk trail
True
small aurora
I chose angry boi
subtle cobalt
Aren't they all cousins?
brisk trail
All the gods and goddesses are hoes
Aren’t they all cousins?
@subtle cobalt cousins or brothers and sisters yes
subtle cobalt
Hera is zeus' sister iirc
small aurora
All the above
mortal wadi
I mean Aphrodite isnt Zeus' daughter right?
fading gazelle
Aphro is Zeus' daughter in some myths
small aurora
Didnt athena pop out of zues' face like a popt zit?
fading gazelle
Daughter of Zeus and Dione if I'm not mistaken
mortal wadi
really? I only remember the one where she like just walked out of the sea
light dust
is it possible to quit the game mid run and come back to the same run?
fading gazelle
yes
fading gazelle
And then click "quit"
Not "Give up"
That will restart your run with the same seed
fading gazelle
Np
blazing sandal
oof soo as far as i know the sections in keepsakes reserved for other gods? So what do you think they will be and what boons they will provide? lol
sharp fossil
i don't think they're planning to add any other gods
subtle cobalt
I know according to some myth a titan castrated himself and threw it in the water and aphrodite sprang from it
small aurora
And its clear that hades doesnt understand that the more you tell a teen not to do something, the more the teen wanta to do the said something
fading gazelle
Currently there are 25 keepsakes and no more are being planned to be added
blazing sandal
But still there is empty sections
mortal wadi
you need to find them
blazing sandal
Maybe some other characters like.. Daedalus?
subtle cobalt
They should make a sequel rather than dlc imo they certainly have material to make a good sequel
mortal wadi
Hades try giving nectar to more people
blazing sandal
At least i would like to see Hera or Hecate lol
small aurora
Oh wow im up to the first boss again
mortal wadi
you can do it 🙂
small aurora
Green winged fate this time
shut crow
I lost all my saved files. How can I retrieve them?
zinc nacelle
i would ask in the modding discord @shut crow
mortal wadi
i think you might have to ask #h1-tech-support
sharp fossil
i know it won't happen but i just want Hestia
so i can set fire to stuff
is that too much to ask?
zinc nacelle
ah maybe there too
small aurora
I died
sharp fossil
oof
blazing sandal
And Hestia too :D
blazing sandal
Oh yOu DiEd WELL next time try NOT to DiE
zinc nacelle
is there a way to skip dialogue in runs?
sharp fossil
alternative: sequel/spinoff game wherein you play as Hestia, setting fire to stuff
why do i want to set fire to stuff so much?
idk but i want it
blazing sandal
Or maybe for one of aspect bearers
sharp fossil
Oh yOu DiEd WELL next time try NOT to DiE
i mean, this is objectively good advice
if you follow it, you don't die
if you don't die, you win
where is the problem?
fading gazelle
You need to work hard if you want it to be OP
zinc nacelle
im the best player so thats no thing
blazing sandal
not so op when it comes for Elysium
glass bone
Where can I report a bug for Hades?
sharp fossil
hit 
in game
glass bone
Oh but I already finished the run :(
sharp fossil
or put it in #h1-tech-support
glass bone
Gotcha
quiet relic
I'm not really sure which channel to post suggestions/thoughts in but, with the addition of the Boon Lists for the Gods in the codex, I found it a little odd that we don't have anywhere to look at Daedalus upgrades. It could go on a similar menu to the Gods, but under the weapon story bits. Just a thought.
sharp fossil
i was like, certain that would be a thing
then was super confused when it wasn't there
carmine ravine
sounds like a good idea, too bad they closed hades feedback
inland prism
Just bought the game. Will update
sharp fossil
eh, its prolly a bit late to be adding stuff to the game at this stage anyway