"did you try moving out of the way?"
#h1-discussion
scenic path
dark agate
“did you try moving out of the way?”
@scenic path i love that sleepy boy
dark agate
i still havent used godmode
@scenic path no, it helps you resist damage every time you die
static wadi
@scenic path damage resist 80% cap iirc
dark agate
so it’s for people who aren’t really good as games but who still want to enjoy games, which i think is great
granite wadi
The main complaint I've heard about it is sometimes people wish they could keep that reduction to something like, 20, but God mode becomes an all or nothing thing
static wadi
but u free ti try
granite wadi
I like having it available so people can enjoy the story though and still engage with the gameplay. Accessibility is key
scenic path
i can easily do 7mins but anything lower is really hard
granite wadi
I wish tight deadline fixed the amount of Styx rooms you go through so it stopped being random
Or just gives you a little bonus for each room you conplete
But it's part of the risk, I supoose
granite wadi
Without the banked time from tartar us I would be horrible
static wadi
u had only 5k darkness to spend
scenic path
granite wadi
I sorta want to get the fishing one. I have three fish left to catch for my codex, and two are at the final boss
The other in chaos
granite wadi
I only seem to get a fishing point there when my run is going really horrible
granite wadi
Makes final boss so stressful
static wadi
to finish codex
tribal glade
agreed - am bad at fishing
granite wadi
I wish there was a fishing charm or something to make it easier. The timing is strict
Make it so it makes caught fish also do something like drop gold or heal or something
granite wadi
Turn your spear into a fishing rod hammer upgrade
Talos fists magnetic pull fish out of water hammer upgrade
round wraith
hey does artemis dash strike buff boon effect ||gilgamesh dash special||?
rough token
just answered in the other chat :3
brisk trail
You know Zagreus getting into Smash is possible. Undertale and Cuphead also only sold 1 million in their 1-2 weeks. We know Hades passed 1 million after like 2 days for sure. It’s possible. Unlikely, but possible. 🤞
brisk trail
Same
static wadi
what
brisk trail
I’ll settle for a weird looking Mii outfit Zag
@granite wadi with a song 👀
undone tide
We would probably get the entire Fire Emblem roster in Smash before he gets added tho
brisk trail
rough token
but they're all such different and unique characters! (/s)
brisk trail
Indie games are usually under appreciated to be honest.
static wadi
so u can dash through Hazard boom area to avoid dmg and have Eris buff
brisk trail
I’m guilty for not paying attention to indie games, but this one caught my eye and I don’t regret my purchase. I can tell this studio cares about this game.
granite wadi
My annoyance with FE is when you step out of the main lords, there could be a lot of interesting characters and fighting styles, but they never get picked
sharp fossil
so u can dash through Hazard boom area to avoid dmg and have Eris buff
@static wadi how many times did you take hazard on eris before you figured this out lol
static wadi
@sharp fossil 1st time i took hazard
sharp fossil
it isn’t?
granite wadi
I mean modern FE is just that
static wadi
for prophecy
sharp fossil
haven’t ever played FE, i assumed that’s literally what it was, from how people talk about it lmao
brisk trail
Lowkey same
static wadi
what is fe?
sharp fossil
Fire emblem
brisk trail
Yes
sharp fossil
also; fair, i think i took it once on eris because of the prophecy as well
static wadi
well ok
granite wadi
Tldr so it doesn't hit off topic, but it's a strategy game, but the self insert character game ended up saving the franchise so the relationship aspect just ended up important to every future title
brisk trail
That’s why
sharp fossil
i’m very much not a nintendo gamer, and i’d still heard of it
granite wadi
I play Switch for Hades
brisk trail
FE is the bane of some Nintendo gamer’s existence
static wadi
is it old?
rough token
it's a longrunning series
granite wadi
Since '93, maybe?
sharp fossil
ngl i lowkey wanna get a switch just to play hades more
rough token
technically Robin isn't a sword fighter...?
brisk trail
I got Hades on Switch today
granite wadi
First appeared in the States with Smash technically
brisk trail
technically Robin isn’t a sword fighter...?
@rough token 👁️👄👁️
granite wadi
Roy and marth
static wadi
oh my 2400 crit
lunar cypress
Fire Emblem's a good series, particularly the recent ones, but...the Smash fighters are always just the same movesets
granite wadi
Then FE7 came out here. Which is where I sgarted
lunar cypress
Well, they used to be anyway. But this isn't Hades-related :p
brisk trail
Hades needs to be appreciated
rough token
#video-games does exist if y'all want to keep talking about FE
granite wadi
Yeah,. My fault for dragging Zag IN smash a bit too far
rough token
lol
sharp fossil
i want skelly in smash
he would have his own goal, which would be to get smashed
by everyone else
brisk trail
What we want:
- Sequel
- DLC
- Hades Gaming Series
- Hades animated show
- Hades merchandise
- Hades in Smash
What he will get: Hades and nothing more (and nothing else is needed it’s great just the way it is, would be nice though)
static wadi
SGG doesnt have merch with hades?
rough token
for example, I'm interested in more Merch
brisk trail
A vinyl and poster, that’s it
sharp fossil
not very much mercy atm
granite wadi
Some, poster, soundtrack on vinyl
rough token
and a Hades character in Smash could be interesting
static wadi
some people just dont know when to stop
rough token
but I'm not too worried about the rest
sharp fossil
there prolly will be more merch tho
granite wadi
But it did technically only officially release a few weeks ago
static wadi
what is Smash?
sharp fossil
sequel/dlc stuff is pretty pie in the sky tho
granite wadi
My real motivation is Kirby dressed as Zag
static wadi
i guess it's popular since i've never heard
brisk trail
Honestly shocked you never heard of it
brisk trail
It’s so huge
Considered the greatest fighting game franchise probably
Think it’s the best selling too
static wadi
if u say fighting i say tekken mk street fighter
that's i've heard
when i was young i even tried some of this
granite wadi
If you weren't big into Ninty as a kid I can see you not knowing much about it easy
granite wadi
Until the Wii release it was just about all first party characters
brisk trail
Oh that explains a lot
granite wadi
And Nintendo not having great online didn't help it
brisk trail
He’s from Russia
granite wadi
I'm from Canada here so we were pretty close to America in game releases and trends
It's nice to know how other countries got exposed to games and how companies handled it, ect.
sharp fossil
i’m in australia so it’s basically the same as america except more expensive for no reason
brisk trail
Also wild fires and dangerous animals (we got shootings though and obesity)
Also terrible elections
sharp fossil
we got those too
granite wadi
And flies apparently
sharp fossil
maybe not on the same... scale, tho
tribal glade
i’m in australia so it’s basically the same as america except more expensive for no reason
@sharp fossil the australia tax
tribal glade
basically
sharp fossil
yeh can confirm
tribal glade
strong arms tho
rough token
how is it, typing upside down? since you're typing right-side up on our end, must be upside down on your end
static wadi
my bear says it should be hard
rough token
¿pɐǝɹ oʇ noʎ ɹoɟ ɹǝısɐǝ sıɥʇ sI
rough token
I suppose
shut geyser
I swear timer was at 0:00 for at least 15 seconds
rough token
for TD?
shut geyser
anybody else have that happen to them before
sharp fossil
yeah it just makes you take damage
static wadi
@shut geyser time limit?
sharp fossil
you don’t insta die when it hits zero
shut geyser
oh
rough token
ye
shut geyser
really?
rough token
yup
static wadi
when it hits 0 u lose hp
rough token
lotta damage per second tho
static wadi
untill u die
brisk trail
I just want only one thing: for them to stop killing Zagreus as soon as you beat the game
Wtf the top score for speed running Hades is 7 minutes already
and giving "joke deaths"
rough token
wait, that's it?
brisk trail
because yeah, I get it
rough token
I thought it was less
shut geyser
and had enough HP to finish
brisk trail
or twentieth
rough token
also @shut geyser || please spoiler tag his name ||
shut geyser
i was just surprised
rough token
Volcanic, they have a new ending now
shut geyser
sorry
brisk trail
Let us chill in the garden, do some cool things there, then ask Charon to take us home
rough token
no worries!
shut geyser
will not say that again in this chat
brisk trail
@rough token that ending stops happening after you get the credits
static wadi
@shut geyser call him redacted
rough token
also, content like that should be spoiler tagged in this channel, please ^.^"
especially because of how new it is
brisk trail
I would assume we all beat the game at this point. If we haven't, then man oh man did I just ruin...
checks notes
A roguelike's non-spoiler
static wadi
i thought red shade in elisium is someone
rough token
ahh...
sharp fossil
we all have
rough token
Volcanic, do you see the channel description?
sharp fossil
but like, other people read this thread
rough token
huh?
rough token
can you still get blood in || Styx ||, Ohokwy?
static wadi
@brisk trail 1200 gold for charon and u can have 3
brisk trail
Sometimes it's a diamond
sharp fossil
if you really want blood it’s more like 3.5-4.5
static wadi
or even 4 if u r lucky with fish
sharp fossil
because an ambrosia is one blood and a diamond is half a blood
rough token
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sharp fossil
blame demeter
static wadi
it's me
even when it was warm summer
i sleep under warm blanket
is it called blanket yes?
rough token
if you're talking about what I think you are, then yes
static wadi
like a thin carpet u cover urself when sleep
rough token
ye
tribal glade
blanket yes
robust jasper
finite orchid
@static wadi How is the russian life?
finite orchid
That sounds awesome
static wadi
add some heat in my nuclear reactor
finite orchid
Omfg ahahahaha
finite orchid
Damn
static wadi
need more vodka though
finite orchid
Do you like vodka?
static wadi
what a nonsense
u cant do that
you can only brew vodka in vodka
but u need add some vodka to make it taste good
lone blade
Hey guys, I recently bought the game and absolutely love it but I'm kind of worried, I got to last boss pretty damn quick, maybe 10 runs, got to it 2 runs in a row after that and almost killed it, but this surely cant be the end of the game? Thats ridiculously short
Literally played for a few hours at most
static wadi
@lone blade 1st of all it's not
lone blade
Everything up to him is a cake walk
lone blade
Sorry sorry!
static wadi
@lone blade well i cant say
how much it will last
but i'm around 70 run
not even close to end i think
lone blade
Oh I see 😄 thank you!
static wadi
have fun
lone blade
Ty!
proven hatch
does Chaos’ attack damage bonus apply to dash-strikes?(since he also has a dash-strike boon)
and does Chaos’ boons negate shattered shackle?
static wadi
1st yes
everything
not only chaos boons
for attack
works for dashattack too
2nd no
proven hatch
yeah I see every other boon since they all have some sort of visual
static wadi
i think
proven hatch
i see
static wadi
omg redacted ||EM4|| with a bow is something
gleaming hatch
you gotta do something for them, sometimes it's just talking and other times its a quest on the fated list
or they just tell you and it isnt a quest
brisk trail
Hmm
exotic trench
Hey, i don't know if it's intended or if it is has been already said, but the hearts given by Thanatos isn't increased by Aphrodite's benediction " Life Affirmation ".
raven wadi
There's other instances of that, such as Darkness given from troves not increasing max HP
tropic quiver
By chamber rewards it must mean only centaur hearts
raven wadi
It seems the 'extra' rewards don't have buffs applied to them
tropic quiver
Centaur hearts that you get by beating the chamber rather
exotic trench
Except that it is specified that it's all centaur heart that are increased, not only those from a chamber reward
lunar cypress
Its a shame, they'd be way better boons if it wasn't so specific; same with the Contractor stuff affecting keys, gemstones etc.
thorn flax
Can gods pride and gods legacy be used together
static wadi
rerolls?
dusk mantle
btw there was an option to Gift || ambrosia || to || Thanatos || and an option to Talk. So I chose Talk first thinking I can give gift him after talking. but after talking he vanished Now I have to wait for the next run before he re-appears so I can gift.
crisp zodiac
Hey, I dunno' if there's a better place to ask about this, but, uh, what's up with this boon? It's normally Trippy Shot, but this time, it's Called Trippy Flare and has a slightly different description.
granite ether
that means you're using either Hera aspect (Bow) or ||Baewulf|| aspect (Shield) and they fundamentally change how casts are used, instead of firing them at enemies, you load them into your weapon and then do things with em :3
crisp zodiac
Oh, wait, it renames my shots to flares? I didn't notice the first time that I tried Hera! Thanks!
high island
Yes.
sand stump
Nice
raven meteor
Where is save data located on windows?
floral belfry
@dusk mantle if you have that happen again, quit without saving it will load you back at the start of that segment of the house, so u can do what you wanted to do then talk
I have had to do that before
different character tho
green pagoda
Hey guys, Im looking to 100% Hades. The war-god bloodlust prophecy requires you to kill 10K enemies. I have killed over 40K and talked Ares multiple times during my runs. Is there anything special I need to do in order to unlock the achievement?
sharp fossil
Where is save data located on windows?
@raven meteor for the steam version:
Documents -> Saved Games -> Hades
dunno if its different for egs
floral belfry
it is not
sharp fossil
cool
obtuse tundra
Not sure if this is the right place.
Just re-read the FAQ about cross-saves, and noticed it only mentions transfer from PC to the Switch, not the other way around. Are there any technical limitations for doing it the other way around? Since 1.0 I've mainly played on the Switch, but would love to be able to move between the units in both directions when they release the relevant update.
sharp fossil
yeah it shouldn't be
crisp zodiac
Did you not raise your affinity with Ares sufficiently, Gamble?
sharp fossil
i don't think the cross saves are actually working yet? they said they would add them in later
from how they've talked about it, they seemed to want to get the profiles syncing across devices, so i imagine it would go both ways
quaint hatch
It's yet to be implemented
obtuse tundra
Oh I know, it says October in the FAQ. I'm asking about the wording in the same FAQ, which specifically says "so that you can transfer your Hades PC save data to the Nintendo Switch version."
My question was if it's still the case that it will only be possible to move the save data one way.
Edited the original post for clarity.
crisp zodiac
||Okay, uh, this is wierd. Previously, the final boss's fire beams rotated in a single direction. Now, they track me perfectly, applying constant damage no matter where I dash . . .||
sharp fossil
pretty sure they've always worked that way
also i think FB attack patterns are a spoiler in this channel
crisp zodiac
Yeah, I was just told that bosses learn from your past fights. This game's amazing.
sharp fossil
there are boss variations yeah
if there's one ||hades|| does early on it must have been added recently
dusk mantle
Save titan blood for different aspects or max out the best aspect ? 
opaque nexus
whenever I see second wave I die inside
because for a split second, I forget that poseidon's legendary is trash
then reality sets in
slate jetty
I think it's good for room clearing, cause if you get breaking wave or typhoon's fury, you will be able to pinball all the enemies, especially in Styx, even though the legendary is not necessary, it still doubles the effectiveness of slamming enemies into barriers.
it sucks for bosses though, yeah
robust sundial
I once got Poseidon's Legendary fishing boon ||in the last charon's market||. Imagine my disappointment.
slate jetty
it doesn't matter at which point you get the fishing legendary (except for when it's scripted at the start), it sucks always
crisp zodiac
Not if you're still farming a lot of metaprogression stuff.
Getting 75 gemstones, 3 keys, and 2 nectar at the end of a run is quite the payoff for one boon.
slate jetty
20% is way too small of a chance if you get it even in Asphodel, some rooms can't even have a fishing spot. I got this legendary twice and it didn't pay off with a single fishing spot (Styx has a fishing spot like 90% of the runs at least)
crisp zodiac
I've gotten it as my first boon.
slate jetty
yeah, it's scripted
that's the only time you're going to get it at the start of a run
after that the only way you can get it is by collecting Ocean's Bounty and Sunken Treasure from Poseidon first.
crisp zodiac
Yeah, I've done that, too.
thorny thorn
would be cool if there was a super condition on the pact that adds like 32 heat or something that completely eliminates all rewards and any other options for getting stronger from the run (also automatically maxes out the mirror condition), for those who particularly hate themselves
Or no, the condition would have 2 levels, first adds 16 heat and what I described + you get 1 food instead of a boon in each room, and 2nd level is another 16 heat without the food replacing the boons, also you of course lose your companion and trinket, call it the "Zagreus" condition :D
crisp zodiac
Why was Meg just dealing double damage? I'm confused.
thorny thorn
did you do something with pact? or activate a Chaos boon?
crisp zodiac
Heightened Security, and no, I had a Halting Attack that I had purified.
thorny thorn
dunno then, dont think in my 160 attempts I've ever had meg randomly dealing double damage :D not that I noticed anyway
maybe you stepped on a trap?
thorny thorn
hm, no idea of such technicalities
flat vapor
maybe you just got hit by two things at once?
thorny thorn
dash = 13 dmg, whip 13, volley 4 per hit, flame 8
crisp zodiac
Mm . . . Yeah, maybe, I guess. Didn't look it, but you know, she did summon an awful lot . . .
Huh. So yes, double damage on the volleys, and damage +2 on the whip.
inland prism
Hi all
thorny thorn
hard to tell without video evidence :D
man, is there no way to make ||Orpheus sing the lyrical version of Lament of Orpheus||? :<
glad burrow
Apologies if this gets asked a lot, or was recently but anyone got any info/insight as to a PS4 release date? I'm gagging to play the game and check/search almost daily for info and find nothing beyond the second half of this year. Diablo is my thing. Rogue' s are my thing. I want Hades on my thing 😩
proven hatch
according to #hades-faq they’re working on/considering it but no specific date
torpid sail
Man....how on earth do these streamers melt the elysium boss so quick? I had a strong artemis/ares build with doom, rifts, the duo and it took forever
glad burrow
@proven hatch Bah, that's the only answer I seem to get. Thanks for the response. I'll keep waiting. 😢
proven hatch
oof
crisp zodiac
@torpid sail Mirror talents are a big deal.
torpid sail
My mirror is almost maxed asidr from boon %
wind nest
Being able to kite asterius to thessus to hit both of them is part of the challenge I think
torpid sail
I try to kite him away to dodge spears while doing damage. Not trying to dodge puddles AND axes
empty garden
So question: should Exit Wounds still be offered if I have Blizzard Shot? This happened to me today it feels weird
Since the Blizzard Shot don't stuck on enemies
maiden mulch
the bulk of your damage is going to come from boons, not the mirror
crisp zodiac
It's not just a matter of maxing them, @torpid sail. It's also a matter of the choices. There are red and green options.
torpid sail
-hasnt had a win yet....- not sure what you mean @crisp zodiac
crisp zodiac
Go to the mirror. Point at a talent. See the button on the left with the two arrows pointing left and right? Click that.
torpid sail
As soon as i get home i will noah
woven salmon
You need a fair number of runs and Darkness invested in the mirror (not sure if you need to have unlocked all talents with keys as well) before ants unlocks the alternative talents.
Before *Nyx unlocks the alternative talents
torpid sail
Def unlocked full mirror
quiet gull
I wish you could save while in the House of Hades :/
@brisk trail Enter and exit the weapons room
robust sundial
Looking for steam cards Dusa & Thanatos if anyone's got them.
zinc nacelle
how often does this game receive updates
thorny thorn
well it currently is in its 'finished' form, so, probably much less than before now
zinc nacelle
okay
hardy escarp
Idk if this is a common bug but I just saw Dusa's sprite chilling in the middle of the HoH and then it just disappeared
raw cape
is Hera Bow and aphro cast now more consistent?
as in it should hit every time if the enemy is hit with an arrow?
sharp fossil
yup; it was in the patch notes
i’ve only done like half a run with it, but it seems to work fine now
raven lava
You need a fair number of runs and Darkness invested in the mirror (not sure if you need to have unlocked all talents with keys as well) before ants unlocks the alternative talents.
it actually unlocked fairly early for me (new player as of 1.0)
definitely did not have all talents unlocked
might not even have had all weapons unlocked
the condition might be reaching elysium or something, idk
deep zealot
So is there no point in 21+ heat runs?
random plover
Yeah the dusa sprite usually gets stuck in the middle of the shade line for me 2
crisp zodiac
If I exit mid-run while the "Quit" option is not highlighted, will I restart the current room or lose my run altogether?
sudden dome
lose it
but you can get it to highlight again in next room
I don't think it will highlight b/c you bought something
brisk trail
So... in a fight between fully levelled, buffed up to hell and back Zagreus and Nyx, who'd win?
I'm putting my money on Nyx.
brisk trail
Nyx makes Hades look like a chump.
brisk trail
She is the underworld.
tawdry flower
Man, trolls are desparate
brisk trail
Yeah.
robust sundial
go for 36 heat run. There's a special prize for that
brisk trail
But also, Nyx would win because she's the second most powerful character in the cast.
Chaos is the MVP.
tepid plover
I didnt know it was possible to get 3 hermes boons
robust sundial
Skelly's pretty up in my list, no matter how many times you kill him he comes back.
topaz mulch
skelly comes back in a different room tho
robust sundial
yeah but he doesn't come back from the styx like zag & co
brisk trail
Hades is my favorite Indie game
tepid plover
Same
topaz mulch
anyone playing on Switch, are the menus B to confirm and A to cancel?
brisk trail
Chaos and Nyx are a distant second and third respectively.
brisk trail
What blessing does he give you?
rapid mantle
I have never seen a productive conversation occur when someone asks "What if X fictional character fought Y fictional character?" I'm totally fine with free speech and thought experiments, but 99% of the time it devolves into a really dumb fight. Thank god this isn't an anime server.
tepid plover
But i mean, i have nothing to do with nectar, so that gives me purpose
brisk trail
Everyone simping for the n#de goddess giving her nectar or was it honey, regardless I gave mine to Hades.
robust sundial
turn nectar into diamonds and titan blood
brisk trail
Aphrodite's not that hot.
robust sundial
and then turn titan blood into gems
brisk trail
It’s just she’s n#de that’s why people simp @brisk trail
I just want Zagreus to unironically say that he finds Bouldy more attractive than Aphrodite, simply because he thinks that Bouldy is just that hot.
Isn’t Aphrodite his aunt?
robust sundial
but bouldy's not in Asphodel ?
brisk trail
Or something
tepid plover
Cousin
tawdry flower
You never compare gods/goddesses
robust sundial
thrice removed or somesuch
robust sundial
true dat
rapid mantle
Greeks were a little weird regarding relationships between relatives.
robust sundial
Ask Achilles
brisk trail
Aphrodite's his relative so her flirting with Zag's a little icky.
Ancient Greeks be like: we had 👁️👄👁️ twins
tepid plover
I really wanted something like in inmortal redneck where i can dpend currency i dont need to actually affect my next run
Not some badge
Like buy an extra boon at the beginning or something for darkness or gem
robust sundial
yeah, Olympian Trinkets are underwhelming
tepid plover
Aphrodite's his relative so her flirting with Zag's a little icky.
@brisk trail shes not really flirting with him, she's the goddess of love and beauty, thats just how she talks
To anyone
brisk trail
dude, don't compare the beauty of the gods.
.>
<.<
but artemis is best girl
warm hedge
I wish keys didn’t fall off so hard during the mid/end game
I kinda think the trove costing keys things was a good idea, just implemented poorly
I think it would be really neat if you could feed extra keys into a trove to summon additional foes and increase the rewards or something
static edge
Hey, did you guys watch the tutorial video for Good Riddance? Korb mentioned he'd put the tabs below hand gesture but they aren't there 😦
deep geyser
YOU IDIOT DO YOU WANT ANOTHER TORJAN WAR BIGHAT
zinc shore
Aphrodite's his relative so her flirting with Zag's a little icky.
@brisk trail
Icky incest isn't a problem in mythology though
brisk trail
Honestly I don't really think any of the gods are that hot.
zinc shore
Zag and than are technically brothers and that grosses me out
zinc shore
Once you go down their path
quiet gull
Zag and than are technically brothers and that grosses me out
@zinc shore Patroclus is Achilles' cousin
brisk trail
Wait what.
zinc shore
Yeah, applying any modern day morality is kinda pointless
quiet gull
FULL of incest
brisk trail
If Patroclus is Achilles' cousin, then...
Oh. Oh fudge.
That's why they were never together in the myths huh?
quiet gull
Most of the gods are incestuous as well
zinc shore
It's fine that they're all incesty. At least it's accurate to the canon lol
deep geyser
Yeah
thick ledge
i mean, basicallyt all the gods are related to each other in some way or another
quiet gull
Also: so much zoophilia
thick ledge
so i guess there's a smaller pool even if you wanted to avoid incest lmfao
quiet gull
Zeus was the OG furry
quiet gull
Ok, furry
brisk trail
It'd be funny if Zag was legitimately kind of grossed out by the incest lol.
zinc shore
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Just a bunch of immortals hanging out and having extremely poor communication skills
quiet gull
It'd be funny if Zag was legitimately kind of grossed out by the incest lol.
@brisk trail Naw, I actually like that they kept the incest stuff. It's inextricable from the myths and the thinking of the time
zinc shore
I don't think it's inextricable. I don't think it really adds or detract to be honest
quiet gull
Same with all the homoeroticism. Gotta love all the sweaty greccoroman naked wrestling
tepid yacht
Hey, friends. Please remember to keep discussion in here clean
tepid yacht
No prob! 👍
brisk trail
Anyway, what would a Hades fighting game look like?
Actually, what would a Supergiant fighting game in general look like?
static edge
like Power Stone?
brisk trail
That'd honestly be cool yeah.
brisk trail
Hey I just started the game last night anyone know how many chambers there are?
Farthest I’ve reached is 13.
narrow loom
When you're playing chaos shield and don't get a special boon until styx with tight deadline 😭
native orbit
I'd suggest finding out yourself @brisk trail ! 13's a good start!
quiet gull
Hey I just started the game last night anyone know how many chambers there are?
@brisk trail More than thirteen
brisk trail
tfw there are other aspects and most of the weapons' best aspects are Zagreus's
Ok so what is the point of giving nectar to bouldy/
or is it just a nectar dump
cloud apex
It is in fact a dump
vagrant bay
i don't think so, i ||got a boon from bouldy last time i gave bouldy nectar||
calm vapor
opaque nexus
tfw there are other aspects and most of the weapons' best aspects are Zagreus's
No
unique fable
@lapis leaf just looked at speedrun dot com and immediately recognized time goat man
what a god gamer
lapis leaf
tepid plover
tfw there are other aspects and most of the weapons' best aspects are Zagreus's
This is purely preference tbh
visual portal
I have something I have to admit is really dumb of me
I thought Zagreus was not a real greek god
rough token
he's not well-known
tepid plover
F
rough token
so that's not a bad thing xD
tepid plover
Yeah hes a bit of a stub
rough token
I didn't know who he was until I started playing this game and looked him up
tepid plover
In some mythology stories, he and dionysus are even considered the same person
Which is why they came with the prank to orpheus
brisk trail
ok but petition to replace Theseus with Heracles
weary yacht
why isnt apollo in the game
molten hedge
should i be focussing on upgrading aspects or unlocking all first
crisp zodiac
Unlock them for the prophecies. Upgrading them takes pretty large investments.
wind nest
I love the hades twitter account showing development content
the fist test animations are super crazy lol
loud sky
hardy escarp
bruh
brisk trail
||This Orpheus dude just won't let me give the last Ambrosia to Eurydice since days ago.|| 😂
tepid plover
ok but petition to replace Theseus with Heracles
Petition to remove Theseus from the game
brisk trail
But.... why? Theseus and his over-the-top lines are entertaining.
narrow hemlock
theseus is the funniest character in the game 🤧
sleek hazel
||Hello, litle question, i'm around 50 escape on switch, i still dont get chaos messages about the hidden shield aspect (i have the required stuff about ). same thing with sisyphus for the companion, i got first nyx chat about something in the archives (saying she dont know where is it), but she should talk about again i think, but 30 run after still nothing. i wonder if its a bug or if can happen||
native orbit
@sleek hazel check pinned comments on story/spoilers channel for sheild, make sure you're talking to orpheus and muse
sleek hazel
||i just got chaos message after restarted with shiled 4 times 😆||
@native orbit thanks
brisk trail
Looking forward to the day where people don't have to spoiler tag literally everything
potent summit
We'll get there. Just goes to show how much unique content there is to discover in this game!
west magnet
rough token
@brisk trail there's also a level of spoiler tagging that is done as a courtesy. I certainly tag things that aren't spoilers, simply because I know some people haven't gotten there yet
cedar hinge
I have an odd question, I’ve been playing with mouse and keyboard all through beta, should I make the time investment and switch to controller?
merry moat
does anyone find confusing when Theseus and you use Zeus call at the same time?
molten hedge
@merry moat pretty sure the zeus call doesn't have the warning circles?
scenic path
Aphros legendary is one of the most useful ones tbh
rough token
I have an odd question, I’ve been playing with mouse and keyboard all through beta, should I make the time investment and switch to controller?
@cedar hinge Both of them are good in different ways. M&K has better aiming, but Controller has better movement control
cedar hinge
Ooh, that’s a good tip, I’ll probably stick with mouse and keyboard then, thanks!
merry moat
it's difficult to see the warnings with your lightning already on the screen @molten hedge
to me, that is
rough token
afaik, Theseus shouldn't Call an Olympian who is actively helping Zag, so that might be a bug
scenic path
as in aid or any boon?
merry moat
happened to me once
rough token
as in any boon, was my understanding
merry moat
but i usually don't pick zeus call anyway
scenic path
theseus calling aid makes it easier to deal damage to him anyway
tepid plover
I have an odd question, I’ve been playing with mouse and keyboard all through beta, should I make the time investment and switch to controller?
@cedar hinge while the game recommends you controller, I find it is completely preference based, I cant use a controller to play this game, been using mnk for months
cedar hinge
Okay nice, it’s good to know I haven’t been hindering myself this whole time, I feel validated
fair dove
It’s all preference
tepid plover
I dont think either is better, play with what you enjoy
Ive been playing with mnk for months, and I dont think ive ever been in the scenario where I said oh this with a controller wouldve been better
Only thing you cant do with mnk is "walk"
Which is not necessary 🤣
theseus calling aid makes it easier to deal damage to him anyway
Yeha i usually finish him off before he's done calling
tidal kiln
So I just discovered the Wretched Broker. How important is investing in him?
slender moss
Is there anyway to see story progress on the switch version?
fair dove
So I just discovered the Wretched Broker. How important is investing in him?
@tidal kiln very important
U can trade currencies for other currencies
Sometimes he gives u insanely good deals
fresh steppe
Hera exagryph?
slender skiff
I think you mean ||Eris?||
uneven sinew
is there place where I can download the little god bond images?
they seem like fun emotes
brisk trail
mani just wanna say the voice acting in Hades is amazing
I adore Hypnos voice acting specifically
Thats a lie: I adore all of them equally. I can't pick on i adore more
zenith mauve
brisk trail
LOL
fair dove
https://twitter.com/ugobananas/status/1314002208724262918
@zenith mauve LMFAOOOO
so thirsty
thorny thorn
man Lament of Orpheus with the lyrics is such an amazing song
brisk trail
am i the only one that just repeating this game for fun since its fun
shut geyser
So I had two blood gems? soulgems spellgems? whatever they are called. appear during the final boss fight this run. Went into the fight with 4 and by the middle of the fight I had 6
gusty slate
2 casts randomly got added? o.O
shut geyser
2 casts were added
shell ice
are you using hera or beowulf?
shut geyser
i would normally screencap in game but tbh i was struggling a bit this run and didn't want to wipe
shell ice
(though i think 1.0 reduced the chance of that significantly)
ive never heard of it happening to chaos
shut geyser
i posted it in victory
i feel like i struggle with non Beowulf shields so am trying different things before the heat gets too high
by midfight i had 6 stones and it did let me pick them up and lodge 6 into the boss
shut geyser
it was 0/4
static wadi
and chaos add u another 1
shut geyser
the little red diamonds? there were 6 of them next to the bosses name
then they dropped and i could pick up 4, throw them, and pick up 2 and throw them
it was really weird
inland leaf
if you had them next to boss' name, then this is normal I think
indicates how many times cast shot them
shut geyser
but i should only have 4
how do i lodge 6 into him?
i was pretty nervous about wiping but i swear exit wounds triggered 6 times
inland leaf
you had option with regenerating cast, or limited?
static wadi
@inland leaf limited
shut geyser
i posted the final build. it was certainly a bug
static wadi
@shut geyser didnt u buy more cast in shop>
shut geyser
no Chiron. you can see bottom by HP it shows 4/4
was kind of wondering if it was a known bug
gusty slate
Could be
zinc nacelle
Do all non projectile attacks count as nearby foe?
gusty slate
I figured if the enemy is close by should be what triggered the boon
idk how it works for projectiles though
zinc nacelle
different leage
flat vapor
i assume for the aphro boon that gives dr for nearby foes
zinc nacelle
i thought maybe theres only projectile or nearby foe attacks maybe
i assume for the aphro boon that gives dr for nearby foes
@flat vapor yes
flat vapor
i mean, they have mechanics related to distance (see distant memory, point-blank shot, and sniper shot)
zinc nacelle
ah yea
flat vapor
i would assume there's some maximum distance of DR that's just not shown
gusty slate
I figured it was ~ spear normal range, but I'm probably wrong
gusty slate
It should, if you're at the edge it might not count as that move is gigantic
gusty slate
I'm trying to think, one spear hammer extends the jab + gives damage to distant foes, which only applied with the extra range
sonic urchin
What is Ambiguity Bonus? The other effects translate into meaningful bonuses, is this one just the 'unlucky one' or does it have special meaning?
gusty slate
I'm not believed in.... 'unlucky one'
flat vapor
it ||doesn't do anything||
wind nest
Ambiguity bonus litterally does nothing
gusty slate
Probably spoiler territory shrug but that's an unfortunate consequence dialogue getting messed up lol
zinc rampart
omg im sorry i should delete that and type it there
gusty slate
Only spoiler I believe is the name
static wadi
@gusty slate yes
tepid plover
Ambiguity bonus litterally does nothing
2% heart broken
gusty slate
Only 2%? I'm devastated
static wadi
ok
explain me this
when i hit enemy with my Q
i deal 143 dmg
when i throw bloodstone
gusty slate
Special attack on what weapon?
gusty slate
Mirror
gusty slate
Oh I see hmmm
static wadi
or it counts only for base dmg
gusty slate
Can't help there, I use the other side of mirror on that one
tepid plover
Is the slow and weak that good?
dawn lantern
okay so i am new have went thought 11 runs and am absolutely terrible any recommendations...
I am not sure which weapon to main 🙂
and am just bad overall
gusty slate
Nah you're doing fine
static wadi
@tepid plover weak yes
zealous flare
@dawn lantern just practice!
gusty slate
Gotta take it at your own pace and learn from your attempts
zealous flare
Keep playing, enjoy the story, theres no rush
You'll get better, and youll get more upgrades
gusty slate
I like the slow and weak because I eat alot of attacks
dawn lantern
nah but like i dont see any progress though my runs
gusty slate
I don't really have trouble with damage tbh
But you are progressing, no? The resources you bring back
zealous flare
If youre getting darkness, thats a permanent upgrade you can use at the mirror
If not, then youre learning a bit more each time
When you die, just try to think about what you learned from that death
You'll get better
lament coral
thinking about builds is good too
and getting all the gods’ keepsakes
the ones you want at least
zealous flare
And if you're exclusively just interested in the story, there's always god mode you can just turn on whenever you want
gusty slate
But for tips to get better. I think reflecting on why you died and figuring out how to not die from that again is something
Learning enemy attack patterns is pretty important imo
tepid plover
Is the slow and weak that good?
I was talking about the mirror upgrade
static wadi
@gusty slate yes it's works only with base damage
dawn lantern
yh i am really bad against the hydra tbh
dawn lantern
and take a lot of damage in that realm (i forget the name )
static wadi
@dawn lantern asphodel]
just keep playing
harvest drakness
and learn enemy moves
zealous flare
If youre already getting to the hydra after 11 runs you're fine
tepid plover
okay so i am new have went thought 11 runs and am absolutely terrible any recommendations...
I am not sure which weapon to main 🙂
@dawn lantern try all weapons. Play with what you enjoy, theres no "best weapon"
gusty slate
Ah Asphodel, gotta be fairly precise with your movements
zealous flare
Youre totally fine
dawn lantern
i tkae a lot of dmg in asphodel
tepid plover
And the more you diez the more knowledge you gain about the game
Thats the fundamental abiut roguelikes
Isnt really about winning, but making the best of what you're given
Die and repeat
And dont forget the main rule of gaming
Have fun
No point on winning if you aren't enjoying it
dawn lantern
wait but who said they beat the gmae on their 7 and how did you do that haha thats crazy
static wadi
@dawn lantern i started new save
inland leaf
some people just are better, they may have experience with similar games
static wadi
so i had lot of knowledge
zealous flare
Yeah dont compare, there is always someone better
dawn lantern
ik i was just wondering
tepid plover
^
zealous flare
Its just gonna bum you out for no reason
static wadi
when i start 1st time i had a 20-30 runs to finall boss
zealous flare
Just be proud of your own accomplishments
tepid plover
Just cause someone did it, doesn't mean you have to do it
static wadi
why did u upgrade 2 i need less?????
tepid plover
It took me around 25 hrs to beat the game
dawn lantern
i know dionysus i was just wondering 🙂
tepid plover
I think I died 11 times to meg alone 🤣🤣
thorny thorn
honestly if you don't beat the game on first run ever with hell mode on are you even trying 🙄
gusty slate
Asterius to this day is my DD sink
tepid plover
Lmfao
mossy grove
Just beat ||hades|| :)
thorny thorn
spoiler tag it Mcnugget
gusty slate
Congrats!
mossy grove
I only started playing recently
crimson canopy
congratulations swordsman you are my new least favorite enemy 🥳
(well maybe tied w the poison spitters)
zealous flare
Satyr and shield elysium guys are the worst enemies for sure
gusty slate
Slow aura chariots... shudders
mossy grove
I did the first three floors without using death defiance
So the final boss was a cakewalk
static wadi
@zealous flare shield guys are easy
inland leaf
I'm mad if I use any at all
thorny thorn
Ye I only use DD's on finall boss if I have a melee build which I usually build to be extremely all in so I facetank the boss with ||30% evasion on keepsake|| and a bunch of health
inland leaf
just gotta dash
mossy grove
||demeter|| boons carried
frozen ice
wow i got up to so much dmg this round
mossy grove
I got like 5 of them
crimson canopy
lol looks like everyone hates a different elysium enemy - I used to hate shield guys but at least they don't dash out of stun lock 🙃
frozen ice
that hera bow is crazy
pearl sparrow
Are the developers, by any chance, thinking about dubbing the whole game in ancient Greek?
zealous flare
theyre the slowest to kill for me
gusty slate
I dislike an enemy in every region though
lament coral
what does favor in the wiki mean
gusty slate
Tartarus I dislike the hand peeps. Styx like everything annoys me in there LOL
gusty slate
"I live to hear your hiss"
inland leaf
that arena on EM tho
thorny thorn
I dont think the hand things have hit me even once since the many many runs I did after they were introduced
tepid plover
what does favor in the wiki mean
Affinity, in the codex there will be a point with each character where you have to do something before you can continue your relationship with them, thats their favor
@lament coral
brisk trail
I got pass Tartarus and then died, I thought I would be able to go back to it but it seems I still have to go through Tartarus all over again since I died? Kinda bogus lowkey.
thorny thorn
welcome to Roguelike
tepid plover
Thats a roguelike
gusty slate
good 'ol Godlike ahem
thorny thorn
no roguelite is when you don't get any advancements after you restart
lament coral
it gets more interesting
inland leaf
I love how three people sent the same message in the same time
thorny thorn
you do in Hades, thus it's a roguelike
frozen ice
@keen hill@brisk trail the fun is the variation on it each time
static wadi
@thorny thorn no
thorny thorn
yes
gusty slate
Oh no, please don't argue about lite vs like here xD
brisk trail
@keen hill@brisk trail the fun is the variation on it each time
@frozen ice I agree the game is fun
tepid plover
Yeah isnt about starting from asphodel, is about getting a different run this time
thorny thorn
off the top of my head for me the fav ones would be FTL, Hades and Bastion
frozen ice
is cuphead a roguelike? ive never played it
inland leaf
Hades is my favorite Indie game of all time.
mine second, first in my heart Hollow Knight
thorny thorn
no Cuphead is not a roguelike at all, it's like an action platformer I guess
gusty slate
It's indie, no?
brisk trail
mine second, first in my heart Hollow Knight
@inland leaf never tried Hollow Knight
For the most part I have ignored indie games
I really shouldn’t it’s just a bad habit of mine
inland leaf
there are some gems
brisk trail
I know
thorny thorn
I usually ignore them until everyone has forgotten about them
inland leaf
there are some disappointments
gusty slate
I just don't have the funds to be spending lul
thorny thorn
Didn't play Bastion until like several years after
tepid plover
I got pass Tartarus and then died, I thought I would be able to go back to it but it seems I still have to go through Tartarus all over again since I died? Kinda bogus lowkey.
Honestly, starting from asphodel would be horrible since you're missing out on boons
brisk trail
True > I just don’t have the funds to be spending lul
@gusty slate
tawdry flower
Celeste is top Indie Game for me. Dead Cells, Hades, and Hollow Knight are honorable mentions.
I feel like Bastion and Braid are iconic foundational indie games
tepid plover
I loved pyre
zealous flare
i mostly play indie games, y'all should check out some of the games that inspired parts of the design of Hades like Binding of Isaac, Slay the Spire and Dead Cells
tepid plover
Hated transistor
inland leaf
I heven't tried any of Supergiant games before, but after Hades I know what I should do
tepid plover
They are all masterpieces
tawdry flower
I just went back to a Transistor this week and I’m enjoying it much more than the last time I played it
frozen ice
what is best supergiant game after hades
tepid plover
I just hate the combat tbh
thorny thorn
Bastion
tepid plover
The story is amazing
static wadi
@frozen ice transistor for me
frozen ice
is it also a roguelike
tawdry flower
Bastion is closest in combat to Hades
thorny thorn
for me Bastion is above Hades general feel wise, but Hades is above Bastion replayability-wise, which makes sense
brisk trail
I’m sure these other Indie games are good but I’m gonna clock so many hours into HADES for now
Maybe for Black Friday I’ll get another Indie game
Or two
inland leaf
I'm at 110 h and just starting XD
brisk trail
Damn
tepid plover
The other ssg games aren't roguelikes
tepid plover
Same
brisk trail
They just don’t intrigue me.
thorny thorn
That's what I thought about Bastion too
brisk trail
HADES on the other hand I adore.
tepid plover
I loved pyre for the story, but the gameplay is boring imo
thorny thorn
I didn' tplay it cause I thought it wasn't my kind of game
gusty slate
Hades called out to me, the others not so much
thorny thorn
and then one day I was bored, got it on sale, and fell in love
brisk trail
I love mythology probably gonna pursue mythology and history as a career.
static wadi
this is not happy end i wanted(
thorny thorn
honestly, try out Bastion when it's on sale for under 2 hours, if you don't like it you can always refund on steam
brisk trail
I have a Switch
thorny thorn
a rip
brisk trail
Not a PC
gusty slate
My other issue is that I'll buy it, play it for a bit and then never pick it up again LOL
thorny thorn
I'm a damn millenial so pc gaming all the way rofl
inland leaf
If so, Hollow knight is for you XD
plain hill
Hollow Knight is beautiful
brisk trail
I’m a damn millenial so pc gaming all the way rofl
@thorny thorn I’m considered retro
When it comes to gaming
Doesn’t Silksong come out this year?
inland leaf
don't remind :((((((((
brisk trail
Might check out Hollow Knight for Black Friday then.
inland leaf
it won't probably
frozen ice
i couldnt get into hollow knight
fresh steppe
i dont think anyone knows when silksong is coming out
static wadi
btw guys moders can bite you for offtopic
brisk trail
You know the darkness girl in HADES? Sorry I’m still trying to remember the obscure character’s names.
fresh steppe
nyx?
gusty slate
Nyx?
static wadi
u may want #video-games for that
brisk trail
I thought she was suppose to be a love interest not a mother. Yes Nyx.
inland leaf
I'm one of those HK fans that will nearly torture people to play it XD
don't judge me
fresh steppe
lmao
brisk trail
When I found out he thought of her as a mother while playing the game I was like:
👁️👄👁️
inland leaf
@static wadi sorry got carried away
static wadi
i do not like what they did with Nyx portrait
thorny thorn
I first didn't as well, but she really grew on me
static wadi
her old personality and voice was very good with placeholder
thorny thorn
I think Nyx is my favourite character now actually
brisk trail
I don’t understand why I heard negative things about the game’s voice acting. I like it very much.
thorny thorn
she commands a lot of presence, as she should
static wadi
but new portrait is not looks like night