It also takes awhile to even happen
#h1-discussion
gusty slate
brisk trail
I want to see what all the gods look like and explore
gusty slate
You'll just be building bonds with everyone in general
brisk trail
I love the protagonist’s design.
brisk trail
It’s nothing like actual Greek Mythology though, that’s fine however. It’s loosely based on it anyways. It’s an entirely different world. Not suppose to be realistic.
gusty slate
There's some, but SGG has taken a good amount of creative freedom
gusty slate
Still a nice theme
brisk trail
God of War has the same vibes
I heard from many that this is now their favorite game
gusty slate
It's a pretty good game, I like how it's pretty much infinite gameplay for me
brisk trail
If I get at least 26 hours worth of gameplay out of it I’m satisfied. Since the game cost me like $26. (Tax)
opaque nexus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/763558706850824222/unknown.png hades is climbing up speedrun.com
sand stump
Technically, you have to get into the relationship to open up some benefit
thorny thorn
personally I went for all of em cause I'm too much of a completionist and while being heterosexual, separating my orientation from that of a videogame character comes pretty effortlessly for me
brisk trail
I’m okay with having to flirt with one person or something if I must. BOTW made me flirt with a dude was very minor idc really. Just don’t want to be in a full fledged relationship like they have in FE.
FE is practically a dating sim.
gusty slate
It's just becoming better friends and family with people
The romance part is purely character building if I recall
gusty slate
It's also effortless, Zag handles everything
sand stump
Well you dont get ||companion|| if you dont romance
gusty slate
That can't be true? The req should just be building a bond... unless finishing that arc is required?
brisk trail
I’ll romance the pink haired one
gusty slate
Hm
thorny thorn
Are you sure that ||when you can choose to tell him to back off, he doesn't give you the companion anyway?||
brisk trail
Lol
gusty slate
SGG locking you out of content because of that choice doesn't seem right hm
brisk trail
Doesn’t matter, as long as relationships are minor I’m good
sand stump
iirc, there need to be a certain level of relationship with those 3 to get those dolls right?
At least pass the key hole level
fresh steppe
You can’t romance the gods red hood
gusty slate
Thought it was just their initial set of hearts, but maybe you're right
brisk trail
You can’t romance the gods red hood
@fresh steppe I thought-
Who am I suppose to romance then
The demons?!
fresh steppe
other people who hang around at the house
south lava
There are no demons. They're cthonic gods.
gusty slate
You don't really get the option to just relationship immediately, it happens on the way to building bonds
brisk trail
other people who hang around at the house
@fresh steppe I suppose that makes sense, they probably want to keep the incest to a minimum. Cuz keep in mind in Greek mythology they are all related. Gross, yes I know lol.
fresh steppe
yeah, i know already
brisk trail
I probably won’t get to play until tomorrow, this download is taking a long time.
thorny thorn
personally, my heart broke when ||Dusa didn't reciprocate my feelings|| T_T
sand stump
14gb + right?
gusty slate
Yeah it's big
sand stump
No i dont know, just asking
brisk trail
Wait you talking about Switch right?
fresh steppe
there a lot of voicelines and stuff
brisk trail
I’m on Switch
sand stump
I got the game on PCs before 1.0
gusty slate
Switch and PC should be ~same size
thorny thorn
the game is like 90% voicelines :D
gusty slate
As the content between the 2 is the same
sand stump
I see 20gb in steam
brisk trail
I’ll be fine
gusty slate
sounds about right
sand stump
brisk trail
How are you sending pictures?
gusty slate
upload to imgur?
brisk trail
I mean I can’t send pics here
gusty slate
need to upload to third party and link I believe
sand stump
Upload to personal discord server , then copy the link here
gusty slate
O 
brisk trail
Imagine if we got the protagonist in Smash
fresh steppe
unlikely but would be the hypest thing ever
brisk trail
True
fair totem
Do we know if supergiant plans on adding more content to Hades?
brisk trail
Nope we don’t know
sand stump
As far as i know, no
brisk trail
They are on a break rn
fresh steppe
not anytime soon if they do plan on adding more
fair totem
This game is just so good. I dont ever want it to end.
brisk trail
They will reveal their plans for the team soon they said, after their break.
fair totem
Awesome.
gusty slate
Soon™️
sand stump
I would happily pay for $5-10 DLC for Hades
thorny thorn
personally, as much as I adore this game, I'd prefer if the team used their talents on a new IP
south lava
I would be fine with either/both.
hardy escarp
Does switching off of pierced butterfly remove its effects?
cloud apex
Yes
south lava
Would love dlc for hades because the game is absolutely gorgeous. Would also probably love whatever else they put out.
brisk trail
They should make a Norse mythology game where you play as Loki
south lava
Yes. You have to have it equipped to increase the bonus and even have the bonus.
hardy escarp
damn that sucks
brisk trail
Imagine playing a game as Loki’s son or as a young Loki
south lava
And then dionysus shows up and goes "Loki, my man!"
brisk trail
Imagine if they made a Norse mythology game and it had a sequel crossover game with Hades
Greek Gods vs Norse Gods
Odin vs Zeus
I feel like Norse would win
But who knows
south lava
Introducing Zagreus, as the new god of Thunder and Agriculture! He has to journey out of midgard to kill ||Thanos|| in the crossover event of the century!
brisk trail
Them using Zagreus was creative, since he’s very obscure and little is known about him besides the fact that he’s the son of Hades.
They had a lot of creative freedom.
brisk trail
They really got to do whatever they wanted with him
sand stump
I thought Zag was Zeus son
brisk trail
It’s complicated
Zeus’s wife had a child with him and Hades
I think they merged or something
sand stump
Greek myth family tree is ... complicated
brisk trail
The two children
gusty slate
Very complicated...
brisk trail
Greek myth family tree is ... complicated
@sand stump ya...
Plus like I said he’s very obscure not much is known about him
That’s why everyone knows who Hercules is but not him
If they did Hercules they would have had less creative freedom
south lava
Zagreus has a lot of conflicting stories so SSG had a lot of poetic license with it as well.
brisk trail
Ya
thorny thorn
Plus a fun thing about Greek mythology, is that while there were a few big writers who we get most of our mythology from, in reality every region in Greece had their own ideas and stories about the gods known to them, even things as who was whose child wasn't always consistent
raw mango
||The prank Zag and Dionysus play on Orpheus is neat, considering that is one of the only small bits of info Zag is mentioned.||
brisk trail
True
I like they design they used
For him
I’m not really a fan of the design for Hades in this game
No biggie though
It’s nice it’s just not what I see when I think Hades
south lava
I kinda like it. He's so grumpy all the time but he tries his best with family still.
brisk trail
It’s waaay better than Disney’s version that’s for sure
tribal glade
hey now! sassy hades was great in hercules
undone tide
That moment you realize Hades' beard ||is his stache||
south lava
He feels very dadlike to me.
gusty slate
Wait
tribal glade
i actually like both this depiction and the disney depiction
gusty slate
Oh it is...
fresh steppe
Wait it is
gusty slate
Well, sorta?
thorny thorn
I like how ||Persephone's hairstyle mirrors Zagreus' hairstyle, or the other way around I guess||
hardy maple
Hello I wonder if I removed the butterfly during my run for an other mémorie. Do I loose the bonus I up on the buterfly or do I keep it ?
thorny thorn
ye you lose the bonus
hardy maple
Arf
opaque nexus
Ok so this is kind of random but I’ve been seeing a lot of new players so I’d just like to say welcome to everyone who has joined here recently
hardy maple
Thx
gusty slate
Welcome to the Underworld!
opaque nexus
We may or may not have cookies
tribal glade
cheers 🙂
brisk trail
It'd be nice if heroic boons would show up naturally in the boon pool
opaque nexus
I see why that’s not a thing
brisk trail
Just finished installing
brisk trail
Be honest should I keep my headphones on yes or no? Since it’s rated Teen. Anything I don’t want people in my household hearing?
lmao
Depends
What's too much for your parents?
Hmmm Ight I’ll just keep them on to be safe
If they hear the word "damn" once, are you grounded?
Tf no
I’m turning 18 in 2 months
gusty slate
I don't think there is anything
brisk trail
Hey you never know
In all seriousness though
later on in the game, there's something suggesting that two characters are doing it
nothing on screen though so don't worry
Gotcha
just a few voice clips
I’m gonna keep my headphones on in case
brisk trail
you can
pliant dawn
You definitely can.
brisk trail
To be fair the great fairies were enough to make me wear headphones during BOTW
gusty slate
They changed it so it should level up now I believe?
gusty slate
Chaos also has a ton of different options so RNG is pretty lol
brisk trail
Chaos is a gamble more than others
brisk trail
its still available but everything related to Chaos is very RNG
from the way they appear to the thing they give
gusty slate
Should still be able to? and if they're the same type they should stack if I recall... but I could be wrong
brisk trail
Starting rn for the first time ever
like i said Chaos is very RNG based
sometimes you meet 5 in 1 run, sometimes you meet just 1 in Elysium
gusty slate
Good luck!
Ah, get your keybinds comfortable
It helps to do that early so you don't have to adjust later
brisk trail
Ya I’m gonna stick with regular for now
Minimum of 5 Heat, including a Hell Mode-unique option removing an instance of mercy invincibility.
gusty slate
Where heat is the 'amount' of difficulty modifier active
brisk trail
though i wish they add something like
in normal mode, 1 heat play the game in Hell mode
in Hell mode, permanent 1 heat or something like that
static wadi
why nowhere in IceWine descritption said
cast start to proc chill?
or my desc incorrect?
brisk trail
wat?
gusty slate
Your Cast blasts an area with freezing Festive Fog that inflicts Chill.
Blast Damage: +50% ?
brisk trail
is there a DIo passive that make festive fog give hangover?
i forgot
gusty slate
Is it a localization issue?
gusty slate
That descrip I put is from wiki, which might be outdated
but that's what I remember it being
gusty slate
That's normal festive fog yeah
static wadi
if someone ingane rn
gusty slate
F10, or #h1-tech-support on switch
gusty slate
Lemme check my codex
brisk trail
the Demeter/dio duo?
static wadi
same?
gusty slate
Blast damage is 30% now but yeah
brisk trail
seem like it
basically it turn festive fog into a hail cloud
but the thing it didnt mention is maybe it lose the lob mechanic
static wadi
when you point on that ability
there are some
tips
in right screen
usually
like what is cast
what is chill
and so on
yes?
gusty slate
Yeah
gusty slate
Hovering over Ice Wine in my codex, I get Cast, Festive Fog and Chill
brisk trail
so update the game maybe?
brisk trail
so it is a localization fail
gusty slate
#hades-localization is a place to report that yeah
You could also be missing game files
static wadi
i have PM for that
split jackal
hi, im kinda new to the game, is 4 duo boons a lot? especially if you havent been trying to go for the prerequisites
gusty slate
Can be
static wadi
yes 4 duo is a lot
gusty slate
If you get "Duo Digger" at the end then yeah
static wadi
sometimes u cant have even1
gusty slate
The game will acknowledge that you have a lot if you clear
split jackal
the bow is such a hard weapon
static wadi
but imo duo not a big deal
gusty slate
I love duos, but not required yeah
static wadi
if it cant work with ur build
static wadi
bow not so hard
gusty slate
It can be hard to work with sometimes
static wadi
well every weapon has it weaknesses
gusty slate
Might take a bit to get used to it
static wadi
but it grants you distance
gusty slate
I just went with a different aspect 
static wadi
@gusty slate thing i like with bow
all 3 aspects
are different
and all 3 are pretty viable
Zag is for attacks
gusty slate
I know, I just personally prefer different aspect
gusty slate
Even with their niche, can still build up the others
split jackal
YEP died
static wadi
@split jackal where
static wadi
@split jackal pls call him last boss or Redacted
split jackal
mb
static wadi
what was ur build?
fresh steppe
might be
sand stump
dunno if that a spoiler
flat vapor
it is
sand stump
oh it is
split jackal
@static wadi ill upload a clip and link, gimme a sec
flat vapor
it only appears after a certain point in the story, is why
sand stump
just to be safe then
split jackal
@static wadi they call me the professional choke artist, failing with this ||https://imgur.com/a/OEugL1O||
static wadi
basic bow aspect not cool with zeus attack imo
native orbit
@dense geode how long have you been playing for? Is that new file, or are you new to the game as a whole?
split jackal
yeah that makes sense
thorny thorn
also 2nd bow with Zeus special ain't too shabby, not great, not bad
static wadi
so u can proc it
split jackal
what buffs should i put on a bow
i feel like the demeter chill on the special wasnt bad
native orbit
Ares ain't bad
split jackal
i see
static wadi
high damage or crit
split jackal
also been wanting to ask, is ares supposed to be rare
static wadi
no
gusty slate
Nah all RNG
split jackal
hes the god i get the least for some reason
static wadi
there is no RNG in this game
split jackal
by a significant amount i would say
static wadi
it's all FATES!
split jackal
lol
native orbit
I can't remember the last time I didn't have an
ares* run
quiet gull
If you get a choice of two gods and you dont choose Ares every time, yes he'll be rarer
Don't be scared of doom, it's okay damage
quiet gull
Ares attack on shield is perfectly fine
static wadi
@gusty slate if u have stacking doom
quiet gull
Also on bow
static wadi
yes
native orbit
I take ares 100% of the time. He's reliable, has "lol 10% extra damage", and some of the best duos
quiet gull
Ares special on chiron isnt good, also
So, as with everything, IT DEPENDS
Different things for different runs
split jackal
||i cleared hades once, and then I've failed him like 4 times in a row, and now theres like 7 dialogues about how its okay to fail|| feelsbadman
static wadi
@quiet gull it's viable but needs longer doom and stacking doom
quiet gull
Ares call does a grip of damage, though
gusty slate
What's happening?>
static wadi
with some screenshots
thorny thorn
just came out of the pool after beating ||Hades with extreme measures||
so ye I'm there :D
dense geode
@native orbit new to the game as a whole. did you read the message after it? XP
gusty slate
Which EM?
static wadi
@gusty slate 4 i guess
native orbit
Yeah, I was just curious; I wouldn't expect you to feel like a grind till further in, if at all. Did you just insta unlock everything? @dense geode
static wadi
so pls can anyone send me seccret fists prophecy text?(
gusty slate
I felt the grind ~3 clears in >_>
static wadi
yes
sand stump
nice
static wadi
thx
gusty slate
Oh I forgot it's listed there
static wadi
i just dont understand
most secret aspects for people who WILL live
and this is like for one who alredy lived?
dense geode
@native orbit nah. I unlocked everything at its base level, got a bit furthur in and then decided I'd rather not spend hours and hours grinding and I would rather spend hours and hours playing around with the game as a whole. currently trying out the various heat settings to see what I like and think is doable
static wadi
sword shield and spear are 100% for future
problem is i dont speak english
so it's hard to understand sometimes
what does it mean
static wadi
wait
i'm speaking
about deeds of that hero
godlike king
they WERE
or they WILL BE?
gusty slate
Seems like will be
dense geode
@native orbit total runs wise I did about 40 before I started feeling the grind
gusty slate
I felt the blood grind pretty early lol
sand stump
Oh
I understand your question @static wadi
It shall, because it haven’t yet
In this case, because i havent brought it to the surface yet
native orbit
@dense geode Gotcha. Sounds like you know what you want out of the game!
sand stump
Because in the past, it was in the hand on that king
So it was up there, got down here
gusty slate
Oh it is past, I'm sorry lol
static wadi
@sand stump that what am i talking about
sand stump
Then i have to bring it back
sand stump
Yes, that king is in the past
sand stump
Oh, need to check that then
static wadi
but spear shield and sword
sand stump
Give me a sec
static wadi
bow looks like past too
dense geode
@native orbit yea.
sand stump
Maybe it is also depend on the real time line
gusty slate
Rail is past I believe?
static wadi
@sand stump actually i'm looking for localisation errors cus sometimes in dialogues they speak like it happened
and sometimes they speak like it only going to
gusty slate
remembered vs to be spun
gusty slate
Ah true
The Infernal Arms are also super weird if I recall someone mentioning it ingame
They can take on past, present, or future incarnations
brisk trail
the hidden aspects borrow power from a different land and a different time
fresh steppe
or future incarnations as well
i dont think he ever existed so it would be difficult to pinpoint where he is at
sand stump
||lucifer|| have to be after AD
fresh steppe
how so?
sand stump
Oh i am not adept in Christanity, just assume it have to be after Jesus
static wadi
no lol
brisk trail
still where are my Susanoo or Japanese aspect? they have some legendary weapon too
fresh steppe
hes like, before earth
brisk trail
Angels exist before Jesus Christ
fresh steppe
well before he existed as a human yes
brisk trail
wat?
static wadi
yes
fresh steppe
pretty sure in christian canon that the Holy Trinity exist as separate and same people
static wadi
it' like different aspects
sand stump
it is the past here
fresh steppe
so that would mean the son part of the Holy Trinity would exist at the same time as the whole, ||lucifer ||deal
static wadi
of same person
dense geode
Lucifer is one of the original Angel's from before ceeation
sand stump
so ||lucifer || is before
brisk trail
what does Holy Trinity have any thing to do with Angels exist before or after Jesus?
Wow this game is fun
Just played for the first time
fresh steppe
i mean, jesus is part of god
brisk trail
Very enjoyable
fresh steppe
i think
sand stump
oh reasonable
brisk trail
God isnt borned on fricking year 0
My only issue is that I don’t think any of those 3 people that we can romance are attractive.
indigo nest
oh cool religion
static wadi
@brisk trail his son was
fresh steppe
its a matter of preference
dense geode
meg is pretty spicy
static wadi
@brisk trail u can romance noone
sand stump
||Rama|| is also past tense
brisk trail
I thought were supposed to
fresh steppe
yeah you can just do that
static wadi
and i dont think they can be called PEOPLE
fresh steppe
you don't have to
dense geode
dusa sounds like a little sister and than I thought was a guy <.<
static wadi
@sand stump yes
brisk trail
Jesus was like one of his very VERY late sson
before that, tons of things already exist before Jesus
including the angels
i dont know why i have to explain Christianity, im not even a Christian
fresh steppe
he is a guy
brisk trail
The weird one falling asleep?
sand stump
so || Luci, Gilgamesh and Rama|| is in the past
|| Guan yu and Arthur || is future
static wadi
oh spoiler
fresh steppe
that sounds about right
sand stump
that what it said in the propecy list
fresh steppe
not sure about ||beowulf ||however
brisk trail
I want Zagreus in Smash.
static wadi
@sand stump @fresh steppe futire
fresh steppe
same honestly
brisk trail
we dont really know the date when the game take place nor do we know when Lucifer rebel god though
static wadi
shield is future
brisk trail
Zagreus for Smash!
brisk trail
bruh, what the hell is that logic?
You know when I was thinking about getting this game I looked at the reviews and it was review bombed by a bunch of children who play Fortnite. They all said stuff like “bad game, terrible game, Fortnite is better”.
sand stump
||beowulf|| is written at 700 AD as the earliest
brisk trail
i mean all hidden aspects are future except Lucifer who we might not know yet
fresh steppe
yeah
static wadi
same as rail
sand stump
fish is a man that said to live 2600 BCE
sand stump
Fist lol
static wadi
bce is?
sand stump
before christ
static wadi
before chirst era?
sand stump
ye
sand stump
that just mean our story happen after that
fresh steppe
bce is before common era
brisk trail
aphrodite in the game though 
isnt Hades take place also somewhere during like 500-600 bc?
its hard to draw a timeline fiction
static wadi
yeah it is
sand stump
Bow: before time
Rail: Before time
Fist: 2600 BCE
Spear 200 AD
Sword: 5-600 AD
Shield : 600 AD
buoyant merlin
It takes place during Hades.
brisk trail
i like how a gun relate back to the time where no one even know what a gun even is
quiet gull
Nnnno, I don't think?
fresh steppe
pretty sure hes AD
static wadi
@brisk trail cus all mortal weapon made on gods example
sand stump
still diddnt change his position
brisk trail
google said Guan Yu died in 220 Ad?
brisk trail
so technically Chaos shield is the oldest one in the bunch right?
since Chaos is kinda like the "god" version of Greek mythology
sand stump
and yet it relate to the one closest to now
static wadi
well
it hard to tell
we dont know when did he create
this shield
but i think yes
or mb not
sand stump
so is it answer your initial question or something? @static wadi
static wadi
@sand stump yes big thx
static wadi
so we can tell only about trojan war
fresh steppe
i mean what would you expect from the goddess whos supposed to be the god of love and beauty
static wadi
when we speak about timeline
brisk trail
i mean she is litereally the god of love and maybe also lust in almost every iteration
sand stump
Trojan war is 1180 BC
so we can say the story happen between 1180 BC and ~200 AD
big gap lol
static wadi
yeah but looks like it lot's of time
since war
theseus was even before trojan
so it cant help
who else
or what else
brisk trail
from the wiki it said Greek can even dated back to 7000 BC i think
static wadi
what exactly?
brisk trail
Greece in general
sand stump
he said Trojan war because Achiles
static wadi
well and lets not forget
dev may ignore or forget some thing about it
so we cant be sure for 100%
well they changed greek mythology a lot for game
brisk trail
well yeah, they didnt add several gods so missing something is for sure i guess
Like how Than and Nyx should be much older than Hades himself
static wadi
they are
brisk trail
immortals have different aspect of viewing time i guess
cyan aspen
I think I read somewhere that the t||hird skelly statue|| is supposed to sparkle too but mine isn’t (on switch)
static wadi
why euro alway upgrade boons i want less(
supple field
I think I read somewhere that the t||hird skelly statue|| is supposed to sparkle too but mine isn’t (on switch)
@cyan aspen it was mentioned in the most recent pc patch but idk about switch
static wadi
all in the house tells me olympian doesnt know much about what exactly happening in hades realm
but it looks like they know it too well
nectar and ambrosia i spent
all other thing is happening in there
they comment it all
brisk trail
NOOOO you can't just ignore my boons Zagreus
huhruhruhruhruhr wealth sword go BBRRRRRR
static wadi
@brisk trail pos and hermes and add some cash too
brisk trail
i had two chaos boons for +45% gold and the poseidon one
static wadi
that is solid
static wadi
rip
tribal glade
quick question, does upping the EM add to all bosses or just the equivalent number? (aka EM2 buff both 1st and 2nd or just 2nd?)
supple field
first and second
tribal glade
ok ty 🙂
supple field
np
tribal glade
ive only tried EM1 so far but im thinking about upping that moreso than some of the other POP measures
supple field
i started with the traps one and it hasnt ever been an issue
floral shore
Until you get smorced for 150 damage by the traps in the final fight.
tribal glade
hmmm
supple field
ive literally never had an issue with traps idk what you guys are talking about
maybe im just good at avoiding traps?
static wadi
@supple field mb
floral shore
The traps heat rank is super, super bad. It is hilariously lethal on the first tiny misstep, and it barely gives any heat. The risk-reward on that one is super bad.
trim pendant
my major issue with traps heat is always the poison in the styx chambers. it eats your hp so fast. I thought it was basically a freebie at first, until i realized i was regularly losing at least one death defy to styx poison
raven lava
styx poison is annoying in all runs tbh
brisk trail
laughs in only 20 runs
static wadi
anyway is everything ok with GY aspect Q hitbox?
supple field
funny you say that, i just got my first death (defy) to poison in like 30+ runs
static wadi
it seems much much much wider
supple field
also traps heat doesnt affect poison damage, its still 1 per tick
static wadi
patrokl trinket can help a lot with poison
supple field
^
supple field
that might be why, i forgot to switch back to broken spearpoint lol
what was it like before nerf
trim pendant
also traps heat doesnt affect poison damage, its still 1 per tick
@supple field really? all poison? it doesn't feel like it
supple field
idk i've only ever seen 1 ticks ¯_(ツ)_/¯
brisk trail
Does someone have a picture of the Spider-Man rogues gallery picture comparing EM3 Theseus' mask?
fervent heart
Hey guys. New here. Just got my first W, Nuclear Bomb Rail is fun.
Apparently 200% of 300+% of whatever the railgun special's base damage is is BIG damage.
fervent heart
Trust me, man.
Hazard Bomb, Special + Universal crit buffs from Artemis, Targeting System if you want, Swift Flourish, and that's already massive damage.
Throw some Chaos Special damage buffs on there and you're doing stuuuupid damage.
static wadi
i just made most stupid build
Aphro Q 9 lvl
charging special
and secret spear
and pressure point just because
1500 crit with Q
spam Q
tribal glade
Q?
supple field
i cant seem to ever get demeter's glacial glare :c
its the only (regular) god boon im missing
gusty slate
initial keybind for kb special is Q
static wadi
why the hell they use english Y intead of russian У in most time?((((
tribal glade
what do you mean?
fallen violet
thats an issue that belongs in #hades-localization
static wadi
it's very old problem
if they didnt fix it
i guess they cant
or they dont want
lol they even have lines for Zag attacking statues
sand stump
Just nudging them
lunar cypress
So how many ways are there to get heroic boons? Its ||rare crop, swapping boons, and only the ambrosia thing from Eurydice|| ?
lunar cypress
Heroics don't show up in the pool @fresh steppe . And does ||Eurodyce's "next 3 boons have higher rarity" || allow you to get one if it would have been epic otherwise?
lunar cypress
That sucks. So basically the best option is to always take the first one
opaque heron
yarn of ariadne also exists
lunar cypress
Will the YARN allow a heroic to show? I imagine not if the other ways don't
opaque heron
I was under the impression it could if you got lucky
lunar cypress
But was it from you swapping a boon?
lunar cypress
Hmm
fallen violet
But was it from you swapping a boon?
@lunar cypress what is this supposed to mean
lol
fresh steppe
you can sometimes swap a boon
lunar cypress
When you swap a boon out for the same one in slot, it upgrades the rarity by 1 level
scenic path
magnetic cutter and poseidon special do not work well
lunar cypress
Like if you get for instance a different attack boon to show up when you already have one, it'll be one rarity level higher
fallen violet
When you swap a boon out for the same one in slot, it upgrades the rarity by 1 level
@lunar cypress after or before
lunar cypress
It'll show it already before, during the choices
scenic path
think you can only swap boons if they're epic, not sure tho
static wadi
@scenic path no
finite orchid
Hello I'm new here
static wadi
@finite orchid hi dude
scenic path
aphrodite is fine 
fallen violet
Hey my guy
static wadi
Dio is pretty ok
fallen violet
all gods are strong
scenic path
dionysis is okay with fast hitting stuff
fallen violet
except poseidon
static wadi
Aphro is not fine she is op
fallen violet
he is incredibly weak
finite orchid
I'm probably the 10045034053405th person to say this but god dammn this game has taken over my life and i couldn't be happier
lunar cypress
Dio could use a bit of reworking with how hangover works/stacks, Aphro is great though
Poseidon is a lil weak since most bosses don't get knocked around
scenic path
poseidon is good imo
lunar cypress
And that's kinda his thing
fallen violet
nah
scenic path
if you can stack some of his boons
fallen violet
Knockback is really good against rooms
But bosses dont take KB
And slam damage doesnt work
so unless you get more damage with knockback vs bosses boon
static wadi
@finite orchid glad you enjoy it
fallen violet
you are kinda screwed for damage
finite orchid
I also died to you know who at the end with a 15+ boon stack and am now salty
scenic path
yeah but its not like you can only take poseidon boons
finite orchid
@static wadi Me too!
lunar cypress
Rupture is the only boss damage you get from pos and it's not enough
fallen violet
@scenic path I'm saying he's weak to build a run around
static wadi
@finite orchid you dont need much boon to win
fallen violet
His call is OP
scenic path
if its solely around poseidon then yea kinda
fallen violet
LIKE WTF
static wadi
sometimes 1-2 is enough
lunar cypress
He's got some good support boons but won't be for damage or clearing bosses
Which is disappointing
finite orchid
Oh for sure @static wadi I just thought for sure what i was going with was gonna work lol
scenic path
i mainly use artemis for big damage
finite orchid
Too many damage hits on me is what got me bad
finite orchid
Should've went with more dodge
scenic path
also had a 15 heat run and lost while using || guan yu ||
static wadi
u just learn
fallen violet
Thats a hard aspect to run
static wadi
adapt
lunar cypress
I dont like art, I find she doesnt crit much for me :c
static wadi
and gather more resources
lunar cypress
And without crit she's very meh, kinda one note
static wadi
@lunar cypress why do u need arti for chance when u can have aphro for guarantee big numbers
fallen violet
And without crit she's very meh, kinda one note
@lunar cypress her entire gimmick is crits
lol
All gods have a gimmick
lunar cypress
@static wadi Kinda my point :P
lunar cypress
I find it odd how trippy fog cannot apply hangover
static wadi
Eris shotgun now is a thing?
static wadi
hm
lunar cypress
I tried it; wasn't impressed, but it could probly work with enough boons
static wadi
i rarely play rail
static wadi
and never play with special
lunar cypress
Rail doesn't...feel good to me mostly
fallen violet
Yeah
fallen violet
Because you cant get carried by stun lock on attack
static wadi
most my rail run goes with attack
fallen violet
Thats why rail is hard
fresh steppe
but i feel like i couldve done better
static wadi
oh not eris
mossy grove
Rail isn't good unless you get hammers
static wadi
Hestia
fresh steppe
its a matter of opinion
static wadi
Hestia shotgun
mossy grove
one upgrade for rail is straight up op
it gives it infinite ammo but shoots in a burst
static wadi
i prefer rail only when i start with hammer
mossy grove
I got chain lightning with it and almost beat the game without using anything else
fallen violet
yep
lunar cypress
There's no hammer keepsake right?
fallen violet
correct
lunar cypress
Damn
mossy grove
just gotta learn how to use base rail
fresh steppe
i mean, if we happen to meet daedelus in a later update
lunar cypress
The game is VERY good, amazingly so. But it could always be better
fresh steppe
we could get a hammer keepsake
fresh steppe
pretty sure hes a shade
lunar cypress
Hippie. Or. Robot.
mossy grove
I think that the fists aren't too fun to use
supple field
making daedalus a robot would lowkey be ripping off percy jackson lmao
lunar cypress
Wha
fresh steppe
so shade hippie or shade robot then
lunar cypress
Bingo
fallen violet
Hammer keepsake would be OP
fresh steppe
wait percy jackson made daedales a robot?
mossy grove
yeah
fallen violet
No thanks
supple field
cause he's an automaton/cyborg/his soul is in a meatsuit made of mechanical pieces in percy jackson iirc
fresh steppe
i mean, yeah
lunar cypress
I dunno who percy jackson is
carmine ravine
Excuse people but: what's the point of ||ranks||?
@pearl sparrow reach final rank of ||The Unseen One||
fresh steppe
no point but bragging rights
lunar cypress
Also to be fair I have seen Daedalus as a robot/cyborg etc. in several things by now
mossy grove
there are a lot
I still love how there is an achievement for petting cerberus 10 times
mossy grove
they are what killed me when I first got to the fourth floor
lunar cypress
I really wish Golden Touch wasn't only at the end of floors, but just an increase to gold over time
supple field
omg i've gotten at least 10 demeter boons this run and NONE have been glacial glare wtf
mossy grove
one time I straight up got three athena boons in a row
static wadi
@supple field some boons seems very rare
supple field
and yes i have the prereq for it
mossy grove
I've been working on getting all the boons and then I realized how little I use artemis
supple field
i have gotten literally every other (regular) god boon except glacial glare
mossy grove
I'm pretty sure I'm one away on one of them
static wadi
Supp fire is T2?
mossy grove
It's hard to get all of the boons sometimes because you know it won't help you but you know you need it
maiden mulch
only point of ||ranks|| is so you have something to spend darkness on after maxing the mirror
supple field
^
granite wadi
I am one duo boon from having tried all of them, so I'm excited to be done. Just Athena/Zeus now
static wadi
one of the worst duo imo
granite wadi
Also one fist hammer upgrade, and three spear upgrades to be done with weapons
mossy grove
my first one was athena and ares
granite wadi
So far my least favourite has been the Zeus Ares revenge one, just cause it feels like you need to be planning for it a ridiculous amount
mossy grove
my favorite part about the duos are the dialogue between the two gods
the three duos I've gotten haven't been too good
supple field
my brain too small to remember which duos and legendaries ive gotten 😔
supple field
im in the middle of big man fight
mossy grove
I got a legendary on my latest run
static wadi
btw some legendarieas are pretty unfair
like Dio's
u need Cast
u need hangover
and IF u combine them
they will work
sometimes
and now look at Athena's leg
mossy grove
I found a really stupid combo for dio
static wadi
"Hey zag take this 20 sec cd shield lmao"
mossy grove
gun with spread rockets with hangover special is absolutely stupid but hilarious
granite wadi
For me Athena is less the legendary, but more having to wait for Brilliant Reposte to appear
supple field
well thats my last run for the night bedtime for me
mossy grove
gn
mossy grove
I've found some really good stuff while experimenting with the rail
static wadi
@supple field btw this dead screen is old and outdated
cus they talk about slauing Hydra
in times when she was last boss
mossy grove
I hate it when I get to the last floor and then I get satyred out of nowhere
supple field
||i just romanced/gave thanatos the last bottle of ambrosia am i smooth enough for aphrodite yet||
brisk trail
Aphrodite will give it to anyone to be honest
mossy grove
aphrodite call thing is really good in boss fights
static wadi
@supple field spoilers bro
mossy grove
it literally does 2500 damage when you get the max call
dark agate
hi everyone! does anyone know how i can get orpheus to sing? i’ve maxed out his nectar and eurydice’s nectar, boasted about zag’s ‘journeys’ but he still doesn’t have the muse to sing
static wadi
@dark agate ||iirc u should have acces to administrative room and talk about Orpheus papers with dad and Nyx||
mossy grove
maybe ambrosia
static wadi
@dark agate oh wait
dark agate
@dark agate ||iirc u should have acces to administrative room and talk about Orpheus papers with dad and Nyx||
@static wadi does that get him to sing or just ||reunite him with eurydice?||
static wadi
i'm lying
it's not
||u have to make some convos with Euro||
||and she will give her song to him||
supple field
ive killed exactly 4000 enemies with stygius lol
dark agate
i’ve talked to eurydice quite a lot already and maxed out her nectar. ||right now she’s pissed at the stage where she’s pissed at him lol.|| some people on reddit said that they’ve managed to get him to sing after only giving him 2 nectar
static wadi
@dark agate i do not think it's about nectar
it just happens with time
when u met them
u speak her
and then him
and then her
and so on
brisk trail
I wish we would get a Hades rep in Smash
I only have like 2 hours in the game so far but I very much enjoy it.
It’s a shame this indie game will be under appreciated.
dark agate
are you supposed to get special songs from orpheus? like lament of orpheus?
brisk trail
Sure over 1 million copies sold is good for an indie game, but would be cool if it got more attention.
static wadi
@dark agate what?
||it's the song she sings in her room||
||called good riddance||
dark agate
||supposedly there are also other songs that orpheus can sing, such as ‘lament of orpheus’, which you’ll be able to play on the music stand later||
static wadi
@dark agate ||i heard only 3 songs and only 2 of them in the House||
@scenic path in the blood was better imo
dark agate
i’ve defeated ||hades|| and now my only true goal is to get orpheus to sing :’))))
scenic path
spoiler tag the boss name
static wadi
@dark agate pls call him last boss or Redacted
dark agate
sorry!
scenic path
supergiant is pretty good at making music
bastion/transistor had the best imo
and now hades
scenic path
dont forget the art
static wadi
art....
static wadi
well mb
static wadi
oh yes voices
scenic path
bad puns too
static wadi
that's a thing
scenic path
and dont forget hypnos tips
dark agate
and i love that it has a godmode option for people like me who isn’t really that great at gaming lmao