#h1-discussion

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sage marten
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Wait arthur nullifies the lava?

daring hull
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yes

sage marten
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the hell

daring hull
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all traps

sage marten
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that’s amazing

daring hull
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i know

sage marten
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i thought they would have made it so it wouldn’t affect lava

daring hull
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since you can't see the traps they don't affect you

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in the thing

sage marten
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Yeah i know what you mean

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Hm
This opens a new world of shenanigans with Arthur

daring hull
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yep

brisk trail
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||Test it on the final boss.||

daring hull
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no more "oh no the boon is in lava"

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it's only traps on the floor

sage marten
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||that’s where the vases are||

daring hull
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||gotta be flat on the floor, explosives still work too||

worthy egret
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Zag: keeps getting hurt by lava
Arthur Stygius: FINE I'LL DO IT MYSELF

shut wolf
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what do you guys use on spear? boonswise and aspects? any tips for heating up?

sage marten
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achilles is generally considered a good aspect

daring hull
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i usually use zag's or hades' bc i rarely use the special 😅 i think you have to find what fits your playstyle

subtle junco
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how do you cover spoilers in text

sage marten
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you put || at the start and the end of what you wanna spoil

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also man, i feel like an idiot for ever having thought that poseidon's dash was a bad option

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that thing is ridiculous

narrow hemlock
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i think all boons have their uses, its just that some have more specific uses than others

sage marten
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yeah
but good god, is poseidon's dash stupidly satisfying if you invest in a poseidon build

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two out of three runs i cleared were thanks to it

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it's stupidly effective in styx due to how small the rooms are

quartz flume
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Is Sisyphus's keepsake very beneficial? I've never tried to make a run based on breaking pillars

solid cosmos
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it's one of the worst ones

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if not the worst one lol

quartz flume
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oookay
Another thing, what's the deal with Stubborn Defiance? It doesn't seem to be near as good as three DDs, unless I die in each chamber

brisk trail
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Sisyphus's Keepsake also increases trap damage, so if you're mean like me and you like to lure Skullcrushers over lava it will kill them more quickly.

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I also like to lure them near pots, but that instagibs them without needing any help.

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I tried a lot to use Stubborn Defiance, but I find I need one more life against the final boss.

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I always end up going into the final boss fight with 3 or 4 minutes on the clock, I should just try to take that more slowly.

narrow hemlock
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there are some things that are objectively better in game in raw utility than others but i really dont believe there is anything that is really "the worst," because someone, somewhere, will always either figure out an interesting way to use that thing, or maybe just favour it regardless. every time someone here has said a boon/god/weapon/keepsake is the worst this has proven true

worthy egret
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@brisk trail i managed to finish a run with Stubborn, though it took me to have at least 270 hp and a pretty safe cluster bomb doom run

brisk trail
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Well done.

void nova
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fists with talos aspect (magnetic special) plus poseidon special (knockback special) is a pretty interesting combo lol

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feels like i'm paddle-ballin' on these foes

sage marten
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you know, shade pong does feel like an intersting combo, might give it a shot some day

quartz flume
void nova
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So you'd load up 6 Poseidon casts into the bow then hit an enemy with basically 12 knockbacks at once?? Lol sounds intense

solemn igloo
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im 65 runs in and i still havent gotten artemis legendary

sage marten
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wow that stings

cinder lichen
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ow

quartz flume
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@void nova yep, I also had a boon that gives a second projectile for a cast, so twice as much knockbacks I guess

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@solemn igloo it's not my first save, I had something around 70 runs on the old one. And that was the 1st time I got it anyway

cinder lichen
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o o f

light harness
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I have finally defeated Meg and have reached new and further land. I am proud of myself!

woeful sluice
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i just hit 20 rooms cleared, going to try using something other than shield lol

light harness
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I was able to reach 31 rooms with the bow

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Turns put I'm good with defeneive weapons

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The shield is pretty good for me too

woeful sluice
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Yeah I feel like I rely on the blocking during the charge too much, which is why I'm trying other things

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It's definitely really good

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Haven't tried the bow yet tho, looks fun

light harness
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It is

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My favorite

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Damn, my whole Discrod collapsed ajaaja

wind nest
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I'm having a hard time finishing the "get every boon for a god" acheivements because I'm not spawning the legendaries

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any tips for that?

merry harbor
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Do you know each legendary's pre-reqs?

warm dove
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@merry harbor its on hades wiki

merry harbor
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I was asking Cop

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because i was going to refer him to that

deep pivot
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@wind nest Feel free to ask which one do you need help with squirtyay

wind nest
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I can look them up on my own I was just hoping for a more interesting answer than "get these boons and then pray"

opaque heron
brave thicket
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but you lost anyways?

opaque heron
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Also yeah, sadly it's 'get these boons and pray.' However, you can alter things in your favor, especially for the legendaries, if you save the 'guaranteed this god will show up' charge until you have the required boons

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No, I won lol

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Fastest run to date as well, which felt really good, especially since I was going for the timer

cinder lichen
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What a strange loadout

opaque heron
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I basically point at something with the main attack, and the special says 'you're dead lol'

cinder lichen
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...Would it be in or out of character for Chaos to sing or speak quotes or lyrics throughout the ages via the Shield of Chaos?

brave thicket
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out of char

cinder lichen
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Ye, but like...you'd think that something that adds % damage would go best with Chiron's Special

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aw

opaque heron
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I'm basically playing it like a Chaos aspect tbh

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instant max stacks of a really strong hangover effect

cinder lichen
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Heeh, that's usually how it be

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That's a good way to think about it, hm.

opaque heron
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Very often (especially with high confidence) I would hit a target for weak for 100+ damage, shoot one special at them, and then focus something else, and the hangover would do the rest, assuming they didn't die from the special itself

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Plus I could add on a quick dual-shot artemis cast if I wanted to make sure they died

cinder lichen
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Hm...High Confidence sounds like it would pair well with the Pierced Butterfly, huh?

merry harbor
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Sure does!

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That's my usual setup.

cinder lichen
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Now that's a thought

opaque heron
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Since I was doing a speed run, I went lambent plume to help keep me alive and really benefitted from it. I find High Confidence tends to work a lot better (for me at least) when paired with defensive boons so I can keep the buff more easily.

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I'm still bad at the game lol

brave thicket
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high confidence is kinda not very good, i makes you lose 50 mx hp

opaque heron
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In theory high confidence is a straight upgrade. For the perfect player, it's a free, constant 25% damage bonus, which makes things go faster. I still prefer the extra health myself tho, but I'm warming to it.

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(Also 'cause things die faster, you have less risk of getting hit but eh)

merry harbor
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Hey I mean, if you don't get hit, you don't need that HP, yeah?

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I normally nab a centaur heart or two naturally over the course of a run regardless just in passing.

opaque heron
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That's the idea, basically. In reality, nobody is ever that good, so it's a little...questionable.

merry harbor
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I say it kinda jokingly but it is how I tend to center my playstyle, for better or wirse.

brave thicket
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i always take the obol route so if i use the confidence i will have 100-150 hp at hades

woeful sluice
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mad as heck rn

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died on my first time fighting the hydra

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got it down to less than a third health

merry harbor
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That's usually how it goes, don't beat yourself up over it!

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A darn good showing for a first time there, though.

woeful sluice
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ye but i sat on lava

merry harbor
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yeah that happens

woeful sluice
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which is why im mad

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it's a SUPER fun bossfight tho

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imo it's easier than meg, at least the parts i played

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mightve been my loadout though

steel olive
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(Should I ask this in gameplay, or discussion)
I'm trying to switch to controller after M&K for ~60+ runs. (XBox Controller)
The default mapping for dash, attack, special,.. well, pretty much anything is really weird for me.
Should I stick with the default one and get used to it? Or do you guys have any different suggestion?
Trying Dash LB, Attack A

woeful sluice
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of course it feels wierd, you're used to a completely different control scheme where literally all of your fingers are doing different things than they would be on mnk

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i'm obviously no expert for this game in particular, but i'd say to at least try it for 10 runs or so

steel olive
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Thanks, I'll try it out some more and see then

woeful sluice
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is it possible to give nectar to megaera?

merry harbor
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Yup!

woeful sluice
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ahh nice! last few times she's been in i havent had one to spare

merry harbor
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You can give at least one to every interactable character right now.

woeful sluice
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ahh

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ic

minor nacelle
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What's the best way to make Thanatos appear? RNG? I want to uhhhhh become good friends with him 👀

merry harbor
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Get to Elysium a lot, he'll start showing up eventually.

quaint bramble
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RNG at the moment I believe.

merry harbor
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And if you're REALLY stressed, skip out on NPC and shop rooms to have more enemy encounters.

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other than that it's all luck

quaint bramble
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He shows up in the house after you interact with him a bit more in the field as well.

minor nacelle
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daaang ok. I've only encoutered him twice and the one time he was in the house i didn't have any nectar

merry harbor
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Aww.

minor nacelle
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Haha i was looking up info on the wiki cuz i wanted to know what things did and i saw you could romance a few characters???

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And i'm like, great gameplay, witty lines, AND i can get a hot greek bf/gf? I'm in

narrow hemlock
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than and meg

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dusa is considered the third option but its a platonic relationship

dapper ivy
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Can i romance both meg and than

brisk trail
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Yes.

dapper ivy
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Okay now thats hot

olive iris
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hey i dont have permission to chat on suggestion channel but wouldnt it be cool if you could ride a water hydra like in God of War with Poseidon's call?

granite ether
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the #hades-suggestions channel is closed at this time and only opens when SGG actively wants ideas ^_^

olive iris
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yeah but what do you think about the idea?

little nest
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Does anyone know if Super Giant plans to keep updating the game after it's released (out of early access, v1.0+)?

brave tapir
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mad as heck

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Does anyone know if Super Giant plans to keep updating the game after it's released (out of early access, v1.0+)?
@little nest idk but they probably would i think

brisk trail
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The identity of the final boss is considered a spoiler.

brave tapir
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OOOPS sorry

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lemme just

quartz flume
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Apparently it can't be kept secret well, it's not obvious for a new guy here that it's a spoiler

brave tapir
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tbh i think the identity of the final boss is obvious even without seeing spoilers

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at least to me it was

granite ether
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a general rule of thumb final bosses tend to be spoilers, whether if it's obvious to you or not

patent topaz
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i was thinking about it and realized Zagreus will be able to return to the Underworld and resume his antics once beating the final boss and escaping, because if he did not the players that aren't playing in hell mode won't be able to use the pact of punishment

sage marten
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No, i think he’ll be permanently tied to the underworld, mythological persephone style

patent topaz
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Unless in the end the pact of punishment will only be available in hell mode but i doubt it

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yeah, or that

sage marten
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imo the [IS THERE NO ESCAPE?] message is probably a permanent addition and ||you’ll still get murdered for some plot related reason to justify the gameplay loop||

patent topaz
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in synthesis Zagreus won't have to complete just a run to end the game

sage marten
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Also is it just me or does Cerberus’ ball look kinda half drawn?

patent topaz
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He would also miss things

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Uh. Don't know, i still have to buy it

worthy egret
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yeah it does

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i bought it thinking cerb will play with it

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then i get it

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and look at it and im just

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🗿

primal whale
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Maybe the real kicker is you make it out, realize you're miserable, and then have to fight your way back to Dusa

brave thicket
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fight you way back to dusa

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why dusa specifically

primal whale
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idk, I like her

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shes nice

solemn igloo
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Im fighting My way back to head chef

sage marten
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Dong is an enlightened man, he knows who best girl is

novel wasp
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||the ending should be you fight your way back to the underworld for redacted and then, kick his nuts and then going to the surface again||

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and the cycle continues

brave tapir
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that's the energy i like to see

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bc [REDACTED] sure does need to ||get some solid kicks in the nuts||

red coral
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Hey y'all, gentle reminder that the identity of the final boss is a spoiler in this channel! Please take the convo to #h1-story-discussion

cursive steppe
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Bot: if 'fight' and '[REDACTED]' in the same sentence, make it a spoiler.

nocturne scroll
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next patch when?

mortal palm
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i believe it's mentioned when you load the game

sage marten
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It is also on a big ol button on the menu

sterile fiber
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My little sister, who has never played the game at all, has never played ANY supergiant game at all, and who has only ever listened to me rant and rave about how much I love this game and company has informed me that she is obsessed with bouldy. Solely from what I tell her about the game. Her phone screen. Is bouldy.

daring hull
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god. she's so valid 😭
i only know this game bc of my older sister, who showed it to me

mortal palm
smoky rune
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This game! So good

alpine stratus
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omg beautiful

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awww!

smoky rune
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I have 37 hours in only about a month

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First game to give me thumb button cramp in a while too

finite ivy
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I have had a break from playing Hades since December (returned to playing it yesterday) and I must say how insanely creative all the changes are. Not just the gameplay but also the animations and the art style.

smoky rune
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Is Hell mode still in the game?

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@finite ivy yeah I just picked it up a month ago, then for my cousin for his birthday. The game feels pretty fully fleshed at this point

narrow hemlock
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they are not removing hell mode

finite ivy
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@smoky rune I agree. I've clocked in 21 hours on Epic Game Store and with all this new content I will surely double that on Steam in no time, especially since the grinding is now way more fun.

worthy egret
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So uh

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I took arthur

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Decided to give aspect of TRUCK a try

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I kind of lawnmowed the entire underworld

sage marten
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Yeah, arthur is beautiful

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Shame that Guan Yu is pretty underwhelming in comparison

worthy egret
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Going a second run with it cause its just hilarious

sage marten
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Yeah

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Arthur is probably one of the best aspects

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It even looks great to boot

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I like how Zagreus’ default weapon stance changes to a fencing pose with it too

worthy egret
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Oh my GOD I ANNIHILATED the Heroes

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Me: deals 3000 damage
Thanatos: Am I a joke to you

brisk trail
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Yes.

alpine stratus
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clownatos

sage marten
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Sorry than, you’re barely above theseus in my list

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Nothing personnel

brisk trail
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You mean Theseus?

alpine stratus
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why is achilles down in your list

sage marten
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shhh

alpine stratus
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😂

sage marten
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Achilles is like

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On the top three lads

alpine stratus
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ahhhhhh whoops

sage marten
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Only slightly below patto because patroclus is a godsend

alpine stratus
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patto...thats cute ;w;

sage marten
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Heard people call him like that and the name stuck

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Top three lads:

Patroclus
Achiles
Poseidon

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Skelly used to be higher but he played with my heart

narrow hemlock
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i feel like at this point my enjoyment of theseus goes up the more people dislike him

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eventually i will simply become too powerful

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in seriousness though i get it bc i was there and i remember myself saying once, theres not really anyone in the cast i legitimately dislike but theseus may come close, but hes just so hammy and ridiculous you cant take him seriously

sage marten
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@narrow hemlock go away theseus i know this is you trying to bait people into your fanclub

narrow hemlock
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oh man im part of a fanclub! this is news to me thank you

sage marten
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Asterius is the real mvp though
Me liking minotaurs by default has nothing to do with this statement

narrow hemlock
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i think i also take joy in the fact he says these 'can sometimes be spun as innuendos if they were from anyone else but theseus is just oblivious and truly does not realize what he is saying'

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asterius please it is his naptime

alpine stratus
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i love theseus tbh i think its hillarious when characters are just rude for no reason

sage marten
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“My spear shall pierve you harder than my fellow bull’s ramming, cile demon!”

quaint bramble
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I will never not love Theseus, he has some of the best voice lines in the game.

alpine stratus
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hes like a muscular archjustice and i loved aj so much in pyre

sage marten
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Yeah i’ll give you that
I love the boss banter when he finds out ||asterius gave you an autograph||

alpine stratus
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YEAH

quaint bramble
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The Thrill Of The Crowd!

alpine stratus
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theseus: HE GAVE YOU HIS AUTOGRAPH? WELL I WONT GIVE YOU MY UNDERWEAR
zag: no one wants it

narrow hemlock
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his spluttering

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i think that was my true turning point, was hearing him break character in that moment bc he was so flabbergasted

quaint bramble
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||again you mock me with the yarn of Ariadne, blackguard||

worthy egret
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Calling for help

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I have 790 obol

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There is:

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500,Hermes

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450 Aphro

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And 300 Pom

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What do I get?

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I'm an Arthur chonker mostly with artemises and zeuses

quaint bramble
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Depends on what else you have. An Aphrodite boon feels nice on an attack or special I would think. If you already have a great boon just hit that pomegranate, but I would prob take Hermes just to speed up the aspect.

worthy egret
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I already have an epic attack hermes speedup

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Is the thing

quaint bramble
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Prob Aphro then if you don’t have ||fated persuasion||.

worthy egret
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Whats that?

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Also

sage marten
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||the reroll ability switch||

worthy egret
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Redacted: Tell me, what were you the god of again?
Immigrant song starts playing in the background as it turns out i have epic lvl 3 proud bearing and epic zeus call

alpine stratus
worthy egret
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"Olympus Caller"

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HELL YEAH I AM

narrow hemlock
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aren't we all, in our hearts

worthy egret
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Me: OLYMPUS
Zeus: You again? GIVE IT A REST BUDDY

alpine stratus
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zag is a double texter

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buzz buzz its me again...hello...

narrow hemlock
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hades quiz part 2 what olympian are u

worthy egret
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hades quiz part 3 which weapon are you

sage marten
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@worthy egret a poseidon dash

worthy egret
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The chaos shield description is written entirely in cthulhu

sage marten
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ia ia aegis ftaghn

worthy egret
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Also i

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Sinned

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And chose zeus over artemis in a trial

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Immediate regret

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Artemis raising her voice hurt more than the 120 arrows in my chest

narrow hemlock
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artemis is just like, think I'm a pushover, do you? well fortunately it's time for target practice, start running

zag: oh gods [books it]

sage marten
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i always choose the one that is not artemis because she’s one of the easiest trials

worthy egret
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Look i know her trials are easier

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But

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There is this small detail you missed

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I love her

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😔

sage marten
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cast away your love for her for power
today was your first step towards greatness

brisk trail
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I agree with Aang.

worthy egret
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nO!!!!

narrow hemlock
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meanwhile i piss ares off for fun. though I've done this on rift runs and that was immediate regret because I couldn't tell what spinny red death was mine and what was actually death

worthy egret
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Rubber: the movie

sage marten
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yeah, ares’ trial is fittingly painful

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@worthy egret dew it

worthy egret
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Ares

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Was

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My

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First

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Trial

narrow hemlock
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LOL

sage marten
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lul

narrow hemlock
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How did it feel

sage marten
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how many DDs did you loose

worthy egret
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There was a lot of screaming

narrow hemlock
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Appropriate

worthy egret
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I have never felt this much fear in my life

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"Oh... Huh. There are no enemies here? Sweet! Oh.. What is this. Oh. Oh no. OH MY GOD NO OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GO

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I lived

sage marten
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Wait out of sheer curiosity, what does Hypnos say if you die to the timer hp decrease?

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Can you even die to it?

worthy egret
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Im interested in that too

narrow hemlock
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uh hang out let me get out of bed and check

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The pact timer?

sage marten
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Yes

worthy egret
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Also what does Zag say when the timer is running out?

narrow hemlock
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Yeah he makes it a pun hang on

sage marten
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Or do you stay with 1hp

worthy egret
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Cause I am NOT going near that thing

sage marten
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lol

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@worthy egret do a 16 heat all timers run

worthy egret
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Timers make me anxious as hell

sage marten
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To atone for your disrespect to Artemis

narrow hemlock
worthy egret
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NO

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NO BOTH TO THAT PUN AND THE SUGGESTION OF THE TIMERS

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LOOK MY ARTHUR AND EXA RUNS GET FAST BUT NOT THAAT FAST NI NO N O N

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I feel like id just find myself facetanking all damage

narrow hemlock
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i personally dont run the timer bc it makes my fun game time become stressful lol but im sure zag says smth, i just dont know off the top of my head

worthy egret
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Honestly i feel like Zag isnt a timer type of a guy either

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I feel like he would panic about the same he did in ||the admin chamber nightmare||

sage marten
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wasn’t that a ||flashback?||

worthy egret
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||I always took it as a nightmare about what happened so maybe both?||

narrow hemlock
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i mean its technically considered a flashback lol bc its meant as an explanation for why that room is there and why zag needs to have permissions to access it

worthy egret
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||He does go to sleep to activate it though, and it felt quite nightmarish to me, with how everything got so out of hand and confusing and oh god||

brisk trail
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Nightmares are a very common place for a flashback to happen.

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You were both correct.

sage marten
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||no, i think that’s genuinely how it went||

worthy egret
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Me??? Totally not projecting because I get those kinds of nightmares?? hehehehehelp

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||No but genuinely i think it was a nightmare about the event that happened||

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Also rip zag

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Goes to sleep like once a month

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Gets bad dreams

sage marten
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He’s a demigod, he probably doesn’t need the sleep as much

worthy egret
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Zag only sleeps when his body completely shuts down

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Whenever he next collapses is purely up to hypnos

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Also maybe im just tired but the elysium fountain feels like a very nice place to take a nap

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I don't trust other fountains but I trust this one

sage marten
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Don’t sleep in elysium you’ll wake up surrounded by kamikaze chariots

worthy egret
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MEOW

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Zag miscalculates a dash and ends up in Lethe

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Wakes up like four days later

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screen fades out of black

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Hey you, you're finally awake

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You were trying to cross the border, right?

narrow hemlock
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i tab into this server. i immediately tab back out

worthy egret
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Sjshhfhfg

spring lantern
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Do yall prefer that we mark some story questions as spoilers?

sterile fiber
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I logged in for the first time in a few days and my settings all reset so I was sittin there getting hit by everything just thinking "man I got really bad at this all the sudden"

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not that i wasn't already bad but-

covert warren
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hey lads this might be the wrong channel but I saw you talking about the admin chamber nightmare and I think mine might be bugged...the camera locks in the hall leading up to it, and when I go up to the door it’s locked...am I missing something, or is it broken?

spring lantern
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how much do i need to donate for supergiant to add an animation of chaos squishing the earth they have between their fingers like a grape?

nocturne ginkgo
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my computer got wiped does anyone have a save file with everything unlocked they can throw me?

brave thicket
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how

nocturne ginkgo
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in your computer files go to the hades game folder and copy the profile

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it should say profile1.sjson

novel wasp
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zag default dance when

worthy egret
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Dusa default da- oh wait

novel wasp
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she can do it with her snakes

wind nest
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Is it just me or is privledged status vs family favorite a weird choice?

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Prevledge status is easier to setup for sure, and it plays into strategies that were allready good.

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Family favorite can't even get to the same amount of damage. You can only have favors from 4major gods plus hermes plus chaos, 36 percent extra damage all the time vs 40 percent extra damage on a good build almost all the time.

patent umbra
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Family favourite means you can pass over status boons that don't directly increase power. If I'm on a cast focused run I can skip athena exposed and still have some bonus damage.

novel wasp
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thats 40% conditional damage increase vs 30 or 36% (if you manipulate) guaranteed damage increase late game

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because you are guarranteed to get 4 gods + 1 hermes per run

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do some manipulation you have a chance to get 5 gods + 1 hermes, like getting only 2 gods until styx

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Chaos does not count as olympian, btw

brisk trail
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You can also force 7 gods (including Hermes), but that requires a pretty wide spread in Tartarus.

novel wasp
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yeah

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and you might uh, die

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with so little boon

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especially on heated challenges lol

brisk trail
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7 boons? That doesn't sound like a little.

novel wasp
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No I mean getting pretty much little to no chances of boon

brisk trail
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Spreading your build isn't that detrimental when you need a single boon for the damage.

novel wasp
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because in between you have to spread p hard and spreading means less boons

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also didnt it just stops giving you new gods once you have 4

brisk trail
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Kinda-sorta-not-really.

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You can still force a spawn with a Keepsake and then that god will enter the rotation (like me picking up Slicing Shot in Elysium and getting Hunting Blades and Vicious Cycle by the final boss fight).

novel wasp
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from a lot of my experience, manipulation or not, ive only seen 4 (not include hermes), 5 (still not include hermes)

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I think i tried it the other day, even holding a different god, and i had 4, it never shown up again

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think it might be possible in older patch, but def not in nightly night

brisk trail
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I've had 7 gods in NN.

novel wasp
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really, i wanna see it

brisk trail
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I will take a screenshot next time it happens.

novel wasp
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👌

quaint bramble
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In response to the PS vs. FF discussion earlier, I do feel privileged status is arguably better but I prefer family favorite for a few reasons:

  1. It is less damage without manipulation, but it is more reliable and on average I take less damage using it than I would trying to proc both status effects
  2. Giving every boon from a new Olympian you pick the effects of an urge to kill that has 2 percent less damage but affects all damage makes throwaway boons a lot less throwaway
  3. I like that the majority of my builds aren’t focused around setting up a couple of status effects.
novel wasp
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valid

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because to abuse the PS, you really gotta go for demeter or aphro as base

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maybe dio if you want

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because they both has the most reliable status that lasts long

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demeter + ares doom is cancer btw

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arctic blast while dooming hue

quaint bramble
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Yeah I hated using Ares for privileged status, I took so much damage trying to get DPS in before the doom resolved.

novel wasp
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I use Demeter as base

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then set the doom on special

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voila, asston of doom damage

brisk trail
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Ares works as a PS proc with Merciful End really well, because then you're getting the damage boost on Doom which is all you even want.

versed saddle
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I just had my highest accomplishment in well over 200 runs. I turned Alecto into a sandwich.

sage marten
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Sandwichlecto

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What did you do exactly?

versed saddle
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I had Eye of Lamia active when I went into the boss fight and when I killed her she turned into a sandwich. Delicious, but a bit on the snarky side.

uneven onyx
untold cedar
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you usually get it late, don't you? so it doesn't affect that many boons

versed saddle
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Yeah but I've only rarely got it to drop before Elysium.

untold cedar
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it doesn't retroactively improve your other boons, that's what would be broken

uneven onyx
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i got it in Asphodel

sage marten
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It can be broken if you manage to get it early but getting duo boons early in general takes a lot of luck

versed saddle
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@uneven onyx gonna be an easy run then.

uneven onyx
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but this means you'll boost a legendary boon like 50% more

sinful saffron
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Hah you'd think so

uneven onyx
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thats why i thought its broken

sage marten
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inb4 they get no boons

uneven onyx
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true

narrow hemlock
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something that involves a lot of luck to show up in the first place isnt necessarily broken

uneven onyx
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this is the 2nd time today i got it just got pos and dio boons

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i dunno maybe you're right its luck

sage marten
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Yeah, a lot of things regarding boons are just sheer luck
Sometimes you’ll get absolutely broken combos and sometimes you’ll get just
Awful combinations that don’t mesh together

narrow hemlock
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i think you somehow have the assumption that duos are hard to find, and i dont know, maybe thats true, maybe its not. so long as you have the prerequisite boons for duos, you will have a chance to have to find a duo. i've gotten stuff like hunting blades in tartarus, just by managing to pick up the bare minimum of whats necessarily, and getting lucky. of course some duos require higher tier boons so you're not gonna get them super early like that. but some arent requirement heavy, you can either get lucky and find them early on, or maybe they wont show up til the second half of your run (or maybe sometimes they wont even show up at all). its a coin toss

versed saddle
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Poseidon never gives me access, he always gives me Nectar. : |

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Hold up, gonna try to turn Theseus into a sandwich.

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It's hard to see coz it spawned behind the lamp but it's there.

sage marten
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Wait what is this sandwich you speak of

versed saddle
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Eye of Lamia gives you a 10% chance to turn enemies into sandwiches when you kill them.

sage marten
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What

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That’s amazing

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Where do i get it

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I must know

versed saddle
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It's a common option in the Well of Charon.

sage marten
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“Behold, Blackguard, for i have become a pickle sandwich!”
“Funniest thing you’ve ever seen, surely”

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Oh that thing

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I thought it was a keepsake or something

versed saddle
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This has been quite a run. I've eaten Alecto and Theseus sandwiches so far. A Hades sandwich would be tricky to pull off...

narrow hemlock
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identity of the final boss is a spoiler in this channel

worthy egret
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Me: eugh this run is bad no way im getting to the final boss
Hunting Blades: 👀
Me: o h h

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Ares really just took me by the throat, said that im finishing this, and gave me vicious cycle and black metal

minor gull
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love this game and see so much potential in it. Have the devs ever wondered about applying a mulitplayer aspect? maybe 2 man runs or 4 man runs? with increased difficulties ofcourse the larger the party is

sinful saffron
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I've thought of that tbh, but I think I, personally, would get frustrated "competing" with friends to clear a room. Even if the boons are shared, it's no fun if you barely get to contribute :c

worthy egret
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Yeahh

opaque nexus
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Co-op would be a trip

covert plover
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Y'know, I decided to do a fresh new save to see what the game would look like for newcomers who are recently getting into the game. I forgot that Nyx literally says at the beginning that she contacted the Olympians to aid Zagreus in his escapes.

solemn igloo
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I forgot every Thing hypnos said

covert plover
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In fairness, after you've died by every enemy (excluding bosses) at least once with him present in the House, I'm sure he says his piece and then he repeats the line of "that's too bad! 😄 "

brisk trail
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hi everyone I just started the game yesterday what is the best person to get friendship up with necter? since I know some are really good but just don't know what one

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Sorry if this is the wrong channel to ask this

flat vapor
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well first, you should give everyone at least one nectar, since that unlocks their keepsakes

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a special few have more gameplay-related goodies if you go all the way down their nectar/ambrosia routes, those currently being ||megaera, thanatos, skelly, dusa, and sisyphus||, with one more coming in a future update

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special mention is ||orpheus. if you max out his nectar hearts, you unlock a special song from him||

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@brisk trail

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not saying that you shouldn't consider going down other character's routes as well, since nectar and ambrosia unlocks new story events, conversation lines, and quests for every character

brisk trail
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Oh ok thank you for the help

flat vapor
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👍

gritty silo
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hi everyone, bought the game yesterday and i can already say that is one of my favorites

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i am looking foward to be a part of this community with everyone

gusty slate
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It's a fun game, now if only I could dodge things properly...

hoary mural
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How do you give Ambrosia to the olympians? I maxed out Artemis and Aphrodite’s path but there is a final heart that I assume is for ambrosia

wind nest
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@gusty slate enemies start to glow white before their attack begins. Watch for that glow it will help you build the prediction

gusty slate
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Indeed, I just need to try going slower during boss fights

brisk trail
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I'm so far at the moment having troubles with ||Asterius|| and ||thesourse|| any tips?

sage marten
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Just use a bull rush when Asterius is leaping into you, that’ll literally block his attack

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As per Theseus, never stop moving

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never

brisk trail
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What is bull rush like how do you do it?

brave thicket
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if you use shield, you can do that?

sage marten
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Shield move

brisk trail
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Oh okay I don't use shield XD

brave thicket
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you can just stay in block for theseus

sage marten
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Yes.
Bull rushes bypass that attack where he leaps into you

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I am the shield master

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witness my wisdom

brave thicket
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what dost thou use exactly

brisk trail
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I try kiting with spear is their a better thing to do with it?

brave thicket
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there is, thats called gun

sage marten
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Also i’d suggest using a shield

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Exagryph is also a fun option too, aye

brave thicket
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shield is for cowards

brisk trail
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I don't see a gun as a option to buy

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It's like not even their

brave thicket
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oh right gun hard to get

sage marten
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Cowards are just people that block 24/7
Real men just charge with the shield and go ham with it

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Just collect keys and unlock enough weapons

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Once you unlock the fists you should be able to buy the g u n

brisk trail
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I hate shields in anything

sage marten
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Well you’re just objectively wrong since shield is best weapon

brisk trail
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Fair enough

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I see how they are good on here now

sage marten
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In all seriousness the shield is always a good close ranged option

brave thicket
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i g=just go ham with fists and hope for dodge

sage marten
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If you keep your attack button pressed you’ll charge a bull rush, which basically makes you ram everything in a certain direction

brisk trail
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Is their a guide or what is the requirements to unlock gun and fist?

sage marten
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You block most attacks while you’re charging your bull rush

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The weapons are unlocked in a sequential order

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Gotta buy the previous one to unlock a weapon

brave thicket
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so the four beginning, fist, then gun

sage marten
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Once you’ve collected all the weapons you’ll unlock Aspects
In other words: This is where the fun begins

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Also try Poseidon’s rush blessing and slam related boons from him

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Seriously those things are nuts

brave thicket
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aspects more like asspects, the basic is still better

sage marten
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One of Poseidon’s slam boons inflicts a ruptured, which causes enemies and bosses to take damage when they move

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As you’ll probably have guessed by now that’s pretty useful with Asterius

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Also collect all the Darkness, the more Death Defiances you have the better

brisk trail
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I'm go try the shield

sage marten
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If you want/need more DDs skelly’s keepsake gives an extra one

brave thicket
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additionally, go for a debuff boon on the special, it bounces and give good coverage

sage marten
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god i want to try that one with the hammer upgrade that makes your shields bounce several times

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imagine that and chaos aspect

brisk trail
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Hammers and Aspects play weird with each other.

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I heard that Dread Flight doesn't extend the additional shield's targets.

sage marten
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that's the fun part of it

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wait really?

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that sucks

versed saddle
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Best Aegis hammer combo I've found is Minotaur Rush and Charged Shot. With Pom-d out Artemis on your attack and a Chaos epic attack+ boon, you can get 1500+ crits with it.

brisk trail
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Had the chance for that earlier today but I didn't take it.

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I think Explosive Return is super overrated, it just slightly enhances an already very powerful tactic, whereas Charged Shot breaks the charge rule so you can spam the crap out of it, and it comes with 80 base damage.

versed saddle
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If it synergized with the extra shields from Chaos Aspect I'd take it.

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I found a new hammer combo on Exagryph today, Cluster Bomb and Rocket Bomb. I WILL MAKE THE WHOLE ROOM FEEL THE LOVE OF APHRODITE!

brisk trail
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Possibly the first 40 Heat clear ever done on the Rail was with that.

versed saddle
sterile fiber
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IM SO EXCITED I GOT THE DISCO BALL

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ITS DISCO TIME BAYBEEE

brisk trail
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Cheers mate

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In zags voice

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Hecking stuck in my head

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I didn't play hades in 2 weeks

brisk trail
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Dumb question but what is the best weapon aspects?

flat vapor
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sword: imo all except zag are good at what they do, arthur is quite impressive
spear: don't really like it, guan yu is very powerful though
shield: chaos vs zeus is very split among the community (both considered strong) and it's more about the style of gameplay you like. you tend to be good at one but not the other

bow: all are great and can work, personally i prefer hera (for insane burst damage) and zag is boring but good
fists: talos vs demeter is split, but not as much as shield. both can be fine, imo zag and demeter are the most powerful
rail: zag is boring but ok, eris and hestia are both strong at their intended roles (if you can't aim, don't do hestia)

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@brisk trail

merry harbor
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Mostly agree with Onyx, aside from spear. Guan Yu great yeah, obviously, but Achilies allows for more varried builds (really good with casts or if you like playing the default spear skill set) and is super mobile to boot. Also Zag rail with spread fire is silly strong right now.

flat vapor
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i just don't like spear that much :v. other people would be better equipped to talk about spear than me

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oh yeah, spread fire rail is currently dominating speedrunner charts, so try to use it now before they inevitably nerf it in june

merry harbor
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valid, the only reason I brought it up in particular because you couldn't really go into detail on their ups and downs because of it.

brisk trail
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Oh ok thank you everyone so far my favorite weapons to use are the sword and spear

solemn igloo
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I only like Guan Yu

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with other spears youre smashing your q button too much

brisk trail
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Is q like the special attack button?

brave thicket
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yes

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but i disagree

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the rapid poke is good

brisk trail
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Oh ok thank you I play on control XD

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I was watching speed runs to see the spread fire rail and I noticed the dude kept pausing and unpaiding what is the point of doing that?

merry harbor
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It pauses the in game timer, which makes desicions less stress filled.

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Real time is used for runs, but he has a modifer on that forces an in-game time limit to prevent the minute long survival rooms from spawning.

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so to circumvent that: Pausing!

brisk trail
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Oh ok thank you

primal whale
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eris rail is best, but keep in mind everyone answering will have a different opinion about what is best based on what they are best at along with what they have seen is best at high level play

primal whale
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and yes, that includes this post

worthy egret
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Zag: If... I shoot the rocket at myself and not just close range to an enemy do I get an easier boost
Eris Rail: [oh god this wielder is worse than the last]

primal whale
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why not shoot yourself and the enemy? it's only fair

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And eris is the one that's getting off on that, Zag just takes advantage of the resources he's given

worthy egret
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"oh right can you guys wait before i shoot myself" Bang, Zag noise of pain "ALRIGHT LETS GO"

primal whale
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Yeah for some reason Zag feels no pain from his own bombs unless he happens to upgrade the rail with a very specific hammer

worthy egret
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Exagryph doesn't want to hurt him 😔

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Less zag means less murder

brisk trail
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I'm currently trying to figure out how people in speed runs do so much damage

primal whale
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I wonder if Daedalus was trolling when they constructed Hazard Bomb

worthy egret
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I mean it has its uses

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Its pretty neat if you can use it properly

primal whale
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It's actually pretty good

worthy egret
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Pretty good against Redacted

primal whale
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But from a lore perspective

worthy egret
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Cause ||he has a thing for chasing you||

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Lol yeah

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SO MUCH POWER IT HURTS THE WIELDER

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DROP IT RIGHT ON TOP OF THEIR HEAD.

brave thicket
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daedalus' inventions fails a lot ya know?

primal whale
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especially if you've built you rail up quite a few times with eris, and then one day

worthy egret
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I don't but Icarus do

primal whale
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OW WTF DAED!?

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although its not all that much damage

worthy egret
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4️⃣

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The cost of owning a titanslaying living warhead of destruction

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I just wonder what his thought process was

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Bomb.

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Three bomb.

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MORE BOMB.

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UH. HURTY BOMB

brave thicket
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there is also fast bomb

worthy egret
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Also is it just me or would Erebus benefit from more challenges? Ive only ever done it with Rail but I feel like the whole 'dont get hit' thing can be nasty with stygius

brave thicket
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not nasty

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insanely hard

merry harbor
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The don't be hit thing is all fun and games until hades throws out the flamewheels

brave thicket
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i tried it and failed at like, 5 sec after beginning

worthy egret
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Especially if the last time i was there it was like
Louts: hello
Flamewheels: MEOW
Numbskulls: hello

merry harbor
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But other than that it does feel kinda stale after a while.

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Especially if you're a Butterfly runner because... it's the same as literally any other room, but with a different and better reward.

worthy egret
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Jsjd i had butterfly the first time i went to erebus

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clutches butterfly THIS IS WHAT WE TRAINED FOR

merry harbor
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YES

worthy egret
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I genuinely started taking butterfly to try and get better at dodging xD

brave thicket
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butt fly bad

merry harbor
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But, it stops feeling that special if your goal is to no-damage rooms anyway, so y'know... Doesn't feel as Impactful.

worthy egret
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What do you mean it feels like DOUBLE SUCCESS TO ME

merry harbor
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and same, I got tired of dying to stupid things because of taking risks I didn't NEED to, and no one's paying me to go fast.

worthy egret
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IMPRESSED MY DAD AND MY OVERPROTECTIVE BOYFRIEND

merry harbor
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Plus a 32% damage up on Dionysus' call or Demeter's on the final boss is absolutely hilarious.

worthy egret
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Room ends
Me:
Me:
Me:
Me:
Butterfly: 🔔
Me: AYYYYY

merry harbor
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God that bell noise is actually trouble for me lmao

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because it makes Tight Deadline's "hey you need to pick up the pace" warning not have the intended effect

worthy egret
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Wait they use the same sound effect?

merry harbor
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not, uh. not the best reaction on 20+ heat attempts

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Yeah, the screen flashes green when you hit the actual deadline, too, when you start taking damage.

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So basically: I'm never allowed to fail that pact ever again

worthy egret
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THAN WHAT DID YOU DO

merry harbor
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He doesn't instagib you though so that's nice

worthy egret
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Is the actual pact tied to his character

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I mean has to be otherwise they wouldnt use his bell AND his colour but

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??

merry harbor
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I don't think so. He doesn't show up and I haven't let it actually kill me, so if there is dialogue, I Do Not See It.

worthy egret
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Or do they just mean death... Approaches?

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...

merry harbor
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wow

worthy egret
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God. Damn. It.

merry harbor
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Still funny though that the signal of "you're probably gonna die soon if you don't move it" translated to "OH! Hi friend!!!" or "oh heck yeah damage up" after enough time around both

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orz

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pavlov, your cruel theories will never cease to bind us

worthy egret
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Thanatos in the bg: oh where is my bell- wHERE IS MY BELL AND GREEN FILTER GIVE IT BACK

primal whale
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All this talk of death has me parched, and when I'm thirsty, I always reach for a refreshing bottle of Ice Wine. Ice Wine takes my shaky run to Hades and sets it straight. Hydrating, damaging, and extremely op, Ice Wine never fails to impress. So if you're ever feeling parched and hopeless in the desolate fields of Asphodel, or unfairly beaten down in the dangerous, but beautiful Elysium, reach for an Ice Wine (brought to you by DioDem Inc™️)

calm bolt
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This thread of convo reminds me that I also had the idea, and really liked that pact of punishment could be basically forcing for Than to carry out our death that I even drew a small comic abt it but never posted it on the discord cuz im shy

primal whale
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If there is one spot to resist the feeling of being shy, it's the internet

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and then on top of that, most of the people here are great so push through that shyness!

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Although I would like a new channel for Hades related creative art

calm bolt
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yeah I don't want ppl to think the fanworks sector is just dominated by Hades atm when all the games so far deserve proper fan work attention

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haha to some degree it's not even about 100% being shy but embarrassment that comes from facing one's own work and showing it I think
much admiration for those bolder people out here

primal whale
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I don't think limiting your expression of creativity should be limited by your desire to give all of their games an equal representation. All of their games are amazing. If this is a concern of yours then there is a problem that there isn't a separate channel for each game for fans to post fan art in

calm bolt
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True that! Thanks @primal whale
Posted the said comic in fan-works with the courage from your push 😄

primal whale
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Holy crap, it's insane for me to think that you thought this comic wouldn't be appreciated here. That art style is on point and the dialogue fits the game perfectly.

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I have the same tendency to keep my own creations to myself, although in other areas of artistic expression, but don't be like me and never feel like there is a reason that you shouldn't put yourself out there

calm bolt
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Aw thanks! Yeah I think I learned a lot of how they are as characters drawing that 😂
my line-art uses black quite often so the artstyle wasn't too hard to kinda tweak into shape
Self hold back is the hardest hedge to jump over for everyone who has a creative mind it seems!

merry harbor
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Yeah, you did great!

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Strong already took the words out of my mouth ^w^

primal whale
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Yeah I think it's a common trait for creatives to be their biggest critics

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Sharing one owns creative work of art also puts them in a very vulnerable position emotionally because the creation is often seen as an extension of their very being

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but the very act of doing so is something that should be admired and appreciated because it's not easy

calm bolt
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mmhm for me I am pretty good at not taking feedback too personally (I just prefer offline interactions compared to online) but I had some coworkers who were very much on edge regarding their work and feedback sometimes, it saddens me because of course it's super
understandable but also hard to communicate with them at times ;-;
Ehh what is this world doing to already insecure creative people

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Also thank you Silvaria!

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but yeah lemme not boggle this discussion chat further 😇
plz carry on with meaningful game related things!

brave thicket
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"meaningful game related things", exists not, my friend, something is either meaningful or game related

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idk

primal whale
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Whenever someone is being hypercritical, they are almost all of the time coming from a place of extreme insecurity and have never creatively put themselves out there ever, and reminding myself that their criticism is just an extension of their own fear to express themselves, or is an unconscious expression of their longing to have the courage to do the same helps me tame the irrational fears I have for my creative expression

thin sphinx
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yo, can someone dm me details on one of the companions unlocks I legit can't get it and think I am missing something

sage marten
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just waifu some npcs hard enough and you'll get companions

solid cosmos
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i love how hades describes zeus to zag: "imagine me, with a luxurious white mane, and not a modicum of self control"

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the self control part seems pretty accurate

sage marten
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lmao

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i just got that sentence too

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10/10

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also hilariously enough Zeus is supposed to be the youngest kid despite looking the oldest

thin sphinx
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I think there's some trigger I am missing, I seem to have exhausted all dialogues and yet nothing happens the last 20 runs or so

sage marten
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did you gift them nectar

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so you can gift them ambrosia

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also bear in mind only certain NPCs can give companions

thin sphinx
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yeah I know and I got all but one

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got the prophecy and all that

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all conditions are met so either I am getting stupidly unlucky and dialog just does not pop up OR something has to be done first

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it's the ||sisyphus|| one

sage marten
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you gotta finish the prophecy before being able to ambrosia them in most cases

thin sphinx
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yes and that's where I am stuck atm

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I have everything else in the game unlocked and maxed except for this one thing

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so I am lead to believe I missed some trigger

sage marten
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i'm not sure if ||releasing sisyphus|| is a requirement or not

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i haven't gotten that companion yet

thin sphinx
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so we're in the same boat then

solid cosmos
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you need to exhaust all of nyx's dialogues for that

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and oh boy does she have dialogue

thin sphinx
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jeez

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aight thanks

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it's not like I've been skipping any tho

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7/10 times she's not even there

sage marten
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yeah, nyx dialogue is painfuol to get given how much she loves to move around the place

solid cosmos
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and nyx is connected to like 10 different character arcs

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so it might take some time until it gets to ||sisyphus||

thin sphinx
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got ya, thanks

thin sphinx
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ok I went and died like 20 times

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got it

prisma remnant
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Just interested, but does somebody know if there are any plans for character costumes yet? Like if you played through the game on normal you get the outfit from the guy of transistor, or if you play on hell mode you get the pyre robes - somewhat like that. That would be kinda cool.

narrow hemlock
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There are zero plans for that

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if you would like to see an in depth explanation of why alt costumes are very likely to not be a thing https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1864993755183591660/#c1864993755185620425

So, as much as i love the base model for Zag, i feel like we should be able to change up his clothing/appearance to some degree. Could be simple reskins to complete overhauls. Would love to run around the underworld rocking some Hoplite inspired armor. Is this something we cou...

spring lava
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Hades is a 2D game with no real-time 3D rendering. That means every single frame of Zagreus animation exists as a unique image.

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god damn thats impressive

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and a massive amount of work

prisma remnant
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Alright, thats understandable. But would be kinda neat if there would be a single alt skin for beating the game or smth like that. But if it doesn't then its fine too. Thanks for the article tho! (:

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I just thought of games Like DMC where theres 1 or 2 Outfits for the main char to switch between if certain conditions have met. But its really impressive to see that its only 2D. Didn't knew that.

spring lava
#

I'm excited for the code refactor they're working on that will apparently improve performance a bit. The game already runs very well on my (extremely overspecced) PC, but it would be cool to get a consistent 144 fps for my display

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especially for a game like this where high refresh rate displays are appreciable

olive iris
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just managed to kill the final boss for the first time, I just wanna say you guys are awesome.

solid cosmos
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congrats! first of many

quaint bramble
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Huzzah!

sage marten
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Gratz

solid cosmos
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Just realized that Chaos would make for a nice waiter at a fancy restaurant

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"Out of infinite possibilities, i have selected these" - hands menu

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"If that is your wish, we shall call it done" - after ordering

quaint bramble
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Until someone orders the chicken fingers and Chaos rolls their many eyes and says “how predictable.”

solid cosmos
#

"I had suspected you would choose that"

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Wish i could draw to make a comic out of that

livid cargo
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You could try

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Got nothing to lose

worthy egret
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that just makes me think

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does Chaos just look at their curses and boons and go "hmmm I think the son of hades could use this." or "Hey this could be a fun test"

sage marten
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i think chaos is just screwing with us at this point

worthy egret
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and also, Chaos making little guesses about what Zag is going to pick

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Zag: chooses

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Chaos: YESSSSS

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Zag: what

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Chaos: nothing son of hades carry on

sage marten
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also chaos just said something through the shield when i died

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i'm not sure if they were genuinely being interested on my run or just being condescending

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it's hard to tell with them

solid cosmos
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chaos is a very well written character

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i really enjoyed the evolution from somewhat overanalytical and arrogant to more curious and comprehensive of social interactions

worthy egret
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I heard them speak to me when i died once and they didnt sound condescending

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more comforting/sad

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That was unfortunate :(

alpine stratus
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chaos as a waiter: the first three bites are too hot but the rest are delicious

solid cosmos
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yeah, chaos shield is already probably the best weapon in the game and the chaos commentaries are just the icing in the cake lol

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quickly became my favorite weapon

alpine stratus
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chaos shield immediately became my fave after it started letting chaos talk thru it

sage marten
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i mean in my case it's probably because chaos said something along the lines of "hmmm, interesting"

worthy egret
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Imagine if they got way too much into watching the run and started warning zag about things or cheering him on

sage marten
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when i bleedin died

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it's not interesting you ass i just got owned

narrow hemlock
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chaos: [has like at least a dozen lines that are different synonyms for destruction]
me: hm. i see.

worthy egret
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someone's been spending too much time with a thesaurus

narrow hemlock
#

i did not get any of the fun chuckling. just annihilation. and so on 😔

solid cosmos
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it's not interesting you ass i just got owned
maybe it's interesting for him because he thought you were strong enough to not die there, in a wholesome way

worthy egret
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next time Chaos says a word like that imagine an edgy scifi movie with it as the title

alpine stratus
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when u use a cursed move and they laugh or go hm that was silly............ its good

sage marten
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i mean you'd have plenty of time to learn words if you also were a primordial entity that has existed since the dawn of time

worthy egret
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Me: gets steamrolled by a hydra head

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Chaos: hehehe

sage marten
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i wonder if they actually had something to do before we decided to run out

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no wonder he's so interested in zagreus' escape, his pocket of the underworld is literally barren

worthy egret
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i think they were just kinda

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vibing

alpine stratus
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"you have disturbed my vibing, son of hades, but ill allow it"

worthy egret
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walks past a chaos gate

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vibe with me, son of hades

alpine stratus
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😳 ok....

sage marten
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A TERRIBLE ANTEDILUVIAN VIBE BEFORE TIME AND SPACE

worthy egret
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im that emoji every time they call out to me

alpine stratus
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SAME

worthy egret
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Me: i cant afford to lose hp right now

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Chaos: come to me...

alpine stratus
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what if i accidental
😳 fell into the chaos gate 😳

worthy egret
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Me: swan dives into the portal

alpine stratus
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[zag voice] I CAN TAKE IT

solid cosmos
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i like how both chaos and nyx ||were waiting for eachother to establish contact, like "if it/she wants to talk to me, i'll let them take the first step"||. Kinda remembers me of some friendships i may have left slip away because i waited for the other person to make contact

worthy egret
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would... Chaos.. catch us....

alpine stratus
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awwwwww yeah......

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hdjfjfnf perhaps

worthy egret
#

😳

sage marten
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i think chaos would probably let us fall to the floor for giggles

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unless we'd take fatal damage from it

alpine stratus
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chaos catches u by the neck of ur clothes an inch away from a floor smack

worthy egret
#

Zag trips and almost fals into the portal but suddenly he's just levitating above it

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... chaos holding zag in their hands like a pretty beetle

brisk trail
#

Dumb question but is streaming Broadcasting this game allowed?

alpine stratus
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i actually like Just got the [1st ambrosia convo spoilers] talk abt ||if you derive good emotions from giving gifts youre stealing emotions from me because i didn't intend for you to have any good feelings|| and im like. I GUESS????? they are so alien emotionally....i love them

sage marten
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Also i wonder how much influence has Chaos had over our runs
Sure, they’re mostly impartial and neutral but there’s no denying that it took an actual interest on us even if at first they probably just aided us out of amusement

alpine stratus
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yeah!!

brisk trail
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Ok making sure ty for the help

solid cosmos
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@alpine stratus Exactly... and then later ||they finally accept it as a gift and not a trade|| and that's such an awesome moment

worthy egret
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Chaos: feels an emotion

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Chaos: who authorized this

alpine stratus
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ill see that later >:333
HDJGJGJ

solid cosmos
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Chaos is literally holding Earth between 2 fingers

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'nuff said

alpine stratus
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chaos, feeling affection: i stole this

worthy egret
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Zag: hell yes you stole my heart.

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Chaos:

alpine stratus
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HDMVMFKGJFNF

worthy egret
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Chaos: but your heart is still in your body?

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Zag:

alpine stratus
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chaos: i can help you with that :))

worthy egret
#

what if you wanted to go to heaven

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but God said

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curse sfx

alpine stratus
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HDKFKCKFJ

sage marten
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no

worthy egret
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also speaking of chaos vibe checks

sage marten
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Mentioning chaorles is illegal

worthy egret
#

what if zag is just. bleeding all over chaos' pristine white realm

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cause that wound they give him does draw blood

alpine stratus
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chaos: ah...redecorating :))

worthy egret
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i also like how they just dont let you in if you wouldnt survive it

sage marten
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I had just cleaned this floating chunk of marble O son of Hades

worthy egret
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"YOU STABBED ME"

alpine stratus
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i think dying mid-travel to chaos realmwould be like. Whuh Oh

narrow hemlock
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[zags body falls into chaos and immediately melts back to the pool]

sage marten
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cue the chaos trial because it got angery you stained its floor

worthy egret
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i am. so glad we dont see chaos actually angry.

alpine stratus
#

ncjfjgjg
CHAOS TRIAL....AAAAHHH

worthy egret
#

that would be terrifying.

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chaos trial: you cant attack, cast or special, all your damage has to be done through dashing

alpine stratus
#

chaos trial: i genuinely dont care you picked another boon im just in the mood to see what you would do if i was mean to you :))

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AAAAHHH

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remember chaos dash curse

worthy egret
#

.

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that

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was a thing?

alpine stratus
#

YEAH

worthy egret
#

CHAOS.

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I LOVE YOU BUT MEAN. MEAN PRIMORDIAL ENTITY

sage marten
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Chaos trial: p e r i s h

worthy egret
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vibe check hand but it covers the entire screen

alpine stratus
#

i remember someone once feedbacked to bring back the dash curse as a delayed dash and tbh i want that still

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bc i remember enjoying the way the old delayed athena dash used to let me move with more planning

solid cosmos
#

Remember that you can't ever die of a chaos curse, you'll just stay at 1 health
Chaos cares about zag

patent topaz
#

i was thinking about it recently, a trial of the gods with chaos

alpine stratus
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so i think itd be difficult but in an interesting way!

sage marten
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i think that’s just gameplay being merciful

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dying from chaos cursed would be fun though

narrow hemlock
#

chaos trial but its just

zag: [traps an underworld wasp in a cup]
chaos: [places down additional cups]
zag: dont
chaos: [shuffles them]

alpine stratus
#

JDKXKCKCMCKVMCNC

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chaos: drink one of these

worthy egret
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thats what you get for using fated persuasion son od hades

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persuade THIS

alpine stratus
#

JFJFNVH YES

sage marten
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Then it just raises all cups and all of them have wasps
Except the wasps became armored too

worthy egret
#

the wasps have benefits package

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Erebus but all that's spawned is bees

alpine stratus
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jgjfngjgngjgj imagine seeing irl wasps with a benefits package

narrow hemlock
#

thank you i hate it

alpine stratus
#

bees with beenefits

narrow hemlock
#

.

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kam

alpine stratus
#

STOP SAYING SAFE THE BEES, THEY HAVE LASERS NOW

worthy egret
#

Zag, who has never seen a wasp: hehe yello

alpine stratus
patent topaz
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I was thinking about something like insta killing you, deleting your save file or just straight up uninstalling/corrupting the game but the wasps are nice too c:

sage marten
#

Beenefits

worthy egret
#

Narrator: and here ends the story of prince zagreus

alpine stratus
#

chaos: its time to log off

flat vapor
#

savior wasps

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you literally cannot kill them

alpine stratus
#

fated prophecy: "save the bees"
the son of hades shall one day earn the wrath of immortal yellow buzzing things

sage marten
#

Tiny vermin except it’s bees

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Tiny beermin

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Yes

flat vapor
#

beermen

worthy egret
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the son of hades shall one day make the mistake of snacking near seagulls

sage marten
#

@flat vapor dionysus?

alpine stratus
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beer men.....

flat vapor
#

yes

patent topaz
#

Tiny vermins but it's ambulant beer cups

sage marten
#

damn poisonous beer cups

worthy egret
#

tiny vermin but its even tinier

alpine stratus
#

microscopic vermin

flat vapor
#

where-min

patent topaz
#

no-min

alpine stratus
#

there-min [music plays]

sage marten
#

tiny vermin but every time you get hit the game plays the entire bee movie

alpine stratus
#

nooooooo

patent topaz
#

so that's what chaos trial does

flat vapor
#

high confidence time 😎

alpine stratus
#

hfhghghg zags only exposure to mortal culture being a copy of bee movie

sage marten
#

yes
Chaos trial is seeing the entire bee movie
it only happens when you’ve got your timer on

worthy egret
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Hades but every BOY plays we are one but every one plays the entire bee movie but every bee plays the shrek movie and every

alpine stratus
#

hades but every BOY is said by griffin mcelroy

worthy egret
#

Hades but every BOY is YEAHHH BOIIIII

flat vapor
#

do not raise your sword at me, bo-

patent topaz
#

hades but every boy is replaced by boi

alpine stratus
#

cursed sword mbmbam but with zag

patent topaz
#

aw too late

worthy egret
#

Hades but Hades's speech is in owospeak

alpine stratus
#

NOOO JFKFNG

sage marten
#

Hades but every time he says BOI he does it with Kratos’ voice

worthy egret
#

Yu did nyat eawn this, bwoi!!!!!!! OwO

narrow hemlock
#

i look away for five minutes

alpine stratus
#

how was ur wanton wansacking of my domain...... >:/

worthy egret
#

Every time we talk about chaos the chat descends into madness so i take it we chose a curse

narrow hemlock
#

several people are typing...

alpine stratus
#

hades but hades says boyo and skelly says BOY

worthy egret
#

YOU DID NOT EARN THIS BOYO

sage marten
#

“Do you want to knwow abwwowt my bwothew Zweus OwO?
Imwagine me but with a luxuwwious white beawwd and no sewf contwol òwó” -Cursed Hades

worthy egret
#

Hades but Skelly and Hades' voices are swapped

narrow hemlock
#

that physically hurt to read

sage marten
#

You’re welcome

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I tried

quaint bramble
#

The voice acting in this game is so good but Christopher Judge in Kratos’s voice saying boyo blows everything out of the water.

worthy egret
#

Hades but every three runs the voice actors are shuffled

sage marten
#

If it’s any consolation it hurt me as much to type

solid cosmos
#

Or demeter: "FWEEZE TO DEATH ÒWÓ"

worthy egret
#

She says it with the same intensity

sage marten
#

I feel soiled

patent topaz
#

YOU DID NOT EARN THIS BOYO
@worthy egret Oh god it's the "if you end any phrase with lad i'll always hear it in achilles' voice" all over again but with skelly this time

alpine stratus
#

absolutely beyond cursed tho i will ask u to fully remove the struckthrud word

sage marten
#

Aw

worthy egret
#

If i end something with child will you hear nyx

sage marten
#

That was the punchline

alpine stratus
#

i look away to answer a text from my mom for one second n the chat loads this block of cursed text into a gun. good

worthy egret
#

🔫

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Exagryph loves you

patent topaz
#

stranger with patroclus and hon with eurydice

alpine stratus
#

swap them

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euri call u stranger pat call u hon

worthy egret
#

ALL WOMEN ARE QUEENS, HON
IF SHE BREATHES, SHES A THOT, CHILD

patent topaz
#

J E E sUS

alpine stratus
#

JFJFNCNCN

worthy egret
#

Id let patroclus call me hon- gets stabbed by achilles

alpine stratus
#

HFJFJF NOOO

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achilles pls share

patent topaz
#

i want pat to call achilles hon what do you mean

worthy egret
#

He probably does

alpine stratus
#

he should

#

hoping the june update lets us reunite them....pride month

patent topaz
#

hoping the june update lets us reunite them....pride month
@alpine stratus That's what i thought

worthy egret
#

Hades truly taking the Transistor mantle of THIS IS A GAYS ONLY EVENT, GO HOME

sage marten
#

I wonder if we’re going to get the shield aspect on june

flat vapor
#

we're not gonna get away with this, are we, boyo?

worthy egret
#

Its just a frisbee

sage marten
#

Maybe i should start farming titan’s blood

worthy egret
#

@flat vapor NO

patent topaz
#

i didn't play transistor but what have you done

worthy egret
#

Do give it a try if you ever come across it, great game!

alpine stratus
#

zag at a pride parade...

patent topaz
#

Do give it a try if you ever come across it, great game!
@worthy egret i want to play all the games eventually but i was more interested in Pyre 👀

worthy egret
#

That's fair!

flat vapor
#

pyre but you're called boyoratus

patent topaz
#

everyone should go at pride since yo know, greek mythology

alpine stratus
#

tru!!!

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BOYORATUS.....

patent topaz
#

What's this a crossover episode

alpine stratus
#

hfnfjfhf zag n meg at pride posing for a photo and than also in the photo but way up in the sky wearing earmuffs

patent topaz
#

nuu

worthy egret
#

TOO LOUD TOO BRIGHT TOO MUCH COLOUR

patent topaz
#

poor soul

flat vapor
#

i'm trying to think of iconic lines from pyre that i can boyo-fy but it's hard

worthy egret
#

I wonder if Than internally screams every time someone touches him

patent topaz
#

i'm trying to think of iconic lines from pyre that i can boyo-fy but it's hard
@flat vapor vagabond girl is boyoe

alpine stratus
#

tbh the one time i went to pride it took me abt 30 seconds to be like I THINK I AM LITERALLY DYING.....its loud 😖

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BOYOE

#

I wonder if Than internally screams every time someone touches him
bump into him and he instinctively teleports across the room

patent topaz
#

me too i mean it was cool i wanted to be there for my best friend but god i didn't even stand up straight from the music

worthy egret
#

I like to hc that when he does not have his wings visible, there's something on his back in their place, maybe a scar, maybe a tattoo, a sign

Zag notices one time when he sees Than sleeping next to him, and curiously touches the spot

Than wakes up and his hand goes full omae wa mou shindeiru on Zag

flat vapor
#

liboyoration

alpine stratus
#

aaaaaaaaa hfjdjfjfj

#

LIBOYOATION....

#

than is like aghhh if you wanted to just ask first ok

patent topaz
#

I noticed Meg and Alecto both have the wing on their right while Tisiphone's one is on her left and i HHHHHHH WH Y

flat vapor
#

she's unique!!!!

worthy egret
#

Cause her accusations came right out of the left field

#

🥁

alpine stratus
#

EYYYYY

patent topaz
#

JUST GIVE MEG BOTH WINGS SO EVERYTHING IS BALANCED

solid cosmos
#

are the furies just badass underworld powerpuff girls?

sage marten
#

Tisiphone has her wing on the right side, indicating that she’s the right one to romance and the other two are the inferior choices

patent topaz
#

i- don't get it. I love dad jokes but please elaborate

sage marten
#

wait a damn second
they do have the same color schemes as the powerpuff girls

worthy egret
#

Ah yes. Zagreus, Megaera and Thanatos, also known as No Wing, One Wing, Two Wing

flat vapor
#

make meg die blue so her color matches her death

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alecto dies red and tisi dies green

sage marten
#

is this an actual powerpuff girls reference or just a coincidence

alpine stratus
#

aaaaaa hang on i need to find my powerpuff comic meme i drew w then

patent topaz
#

Tisiphone has her wing on the right side, indicating that she’s the right one to romance and the other two are the inferior choices
@sage marten It's on the left 0v0 ~~i'm sorry ~~

worthy egret
#

Coincidence probs

flat vapor
#

i think it's more red, blue, green is a common color grouping

solid cosmos
#

Although alecto would definitely be buttercup even though she's red

sage marten
#

Also don’t they already dissolve into a cloud of bats that have their colour?

worthy egret
#

No nectar: murder
Full affection: murder? 😳

sage marten
#

Like sure they all share the whole pool of blood thing

flat vapor
#

iirc meg still dies in a red pool of blood

sage marten
#

But i swear tisiphone turned into green thingies

flat vapor
#

alecto and tisi both die by disappearing into flying thingies

worthy egret
#

Locusts? Insects of some kind

sage marten
#

Also i assume that meg dies that way because she’s the only one getting yeeted into the House

solid cosmos
#

they look like butterflies

sage marten
#

I thought it was bats

solid cosmos
#

maybe because death is linked to butterflies, thanatos and yada yada

#

yeah, it may be bats though since they have bat wings

patent topaz
#

'aight i'mma head out nighty night everyone

sage marten
#

G’night

sage marten
#

Also now i’m not sure wether they turn into bats, butterflies or each one turns into something different

#

Guess i’d have to check

#

Murder boat is best asphodel room btw

#

This is the objective truth

solid cosmos
#

tis not saying "murder?", disliked

opaque heron
#

The classic 1 hp finish lol

#

Also I'm going to murder you. Slowly. And you're going to move. Slowly.

versed saddle
#

Just got my first 2-win streak, on heat 8 and 9. : |

#

Managed to get both Ice Wine and Scintillating Feast on both runs, and on the last one I got Cluster Bomb and Inescapable Blast, just sat in the corner covering the battlefield with Trippy Scintillating Wine and forcing enemies to stand in it. XD

brisk trail
#

Anyone know how to get guan yu spear aspect?

versed saddle
#

You have to spend a certain amount of blood on unlocking aspects and then you get the dialogue option from someone. Just keep playing, you'll get it eventually.

brisk trail
#

Can spend on aspects be anything or cetain aspects?

versed saddle
#

any aspects I think

narrow hemlock
#

i dont think you necessarily need titan blood for guan yu actually

#

weapon upgrades via hammers

brisk trail
#

Ok thank you for the help

narrow hemlock
#

but titan blood is required for sword

#

ive looked and the upgrade perimeters arent the same on guan yu and arthur so i think guan yu doesnt need blood to be unlocked technically

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if you want arthur though its pinned in spoilers channel