oh just by killing ok
#h1-discussion
lethal fog
this is on poseidon sword?
lethal fog
yes
brisk trail
Hangover doesn't mesh super well with Aspect of Poseidon, but it can be really strong.
lethal fog
hangover is great, it does a lot of consistent DPS if you can stack it easily
yes each weapon has multiple aspects that changes what it does
vapid grove
So I got the Dionysus guy in the very beginning
does that mean that is my aspect for this run?
OH we have to beat the game?
lethal fog
no
the aspect is tied to the weapon. so the sword has 4 aspects the one you start with is the aspect of zagreus, it gives bonus move speed and dash distance, but you can switch to the other 3 if you have unlocked them for different bonuses
smoky rune
Are hangover and doom really all that different?
brave thicket
yes
worthy egret
Hangover is dot
smoky rune
in what ways?
worthy egret
Doom is 3..2...1....SLAP
brave thicket
one is cooler, the other look not as good
brave thicket
a drop of blood, maybe?
worthy egret
Hrmmm
lethal fog
isnt he a god of rebirth?
worthy egret
Hades symbol is taken, Than would absolutely have a butterfly
@lethal fog in mythology, yes! In the game we dont know but achilles theorizes he is ||of blood and life||
lethal fog
a blood drop makes sense
worthy egret
Im wondering if he has any symbols like gods tend to have
brave thicket
no
tbh the symbol for athena is the spear and shield, not the shield
symbol of dio is grapes, not a wineglass
worthy egret
He'd be the mans giving you death defiance boons in a parallel universe game called Olympus where you escape from olympus
lethal fog
future DLC?
lost parcel
Hi so i cant post in suggestions even after doing everything required
So hwre is something
void vigil
Hey, the suggestions channel is locked right now:
`Thank you everyone for the suggestions for Daedalus Hammer upgrades!
We are locking the channel now and will re-open it if we have additional active requests for ideas.`
lost parcel
Cool sugestions rebalancing and a quest idea
Hi, im a big time hades fan and got it abt 1,5-2 years ago (might be shorter but i have no memory saving so i basicly dont know after like me being 10)
so yeah back then they had a deadules hammer making your gun one shot powerhouse, this was the most fun thing i found and seeing it get maimed into hestias aspect realy annoyed me especialy with the introduction of those secret aspects cuz im like cmon thats litarly perfect for that
so ive desided ill think of a aspect a story and possible new god and a shop sidegrade
Here is the hidden aspect idea:
A one shot shot just as the old thing doing 100 damage having a normal reload it has a small splash region the upgrade increase the reload
The special would be a mine that would be able to be placed around 3 times doing 75 damage each they have a very small radius tho (think 2x hit nova smash) the mines would be activated either by the enemies walking over them or you shooting it keep in mind its still lobed these have a pretty long reload of 4 seconds per mine
The dash would be a basic attack that doesnt need a reload so you would be able to attack almost instantly
Now the hestia aspect basicly being remodeled leaves a aspect space here is the idea i had the hepheastus aspect :
The basic attack is the basic effect
The special is a flame attack where he makes a flame circle around him dealing massive damage on direct hit and giving enemies the "lava" debuff for 3 seconds the flame area will linger for 1 second not stackable
The dash attack is zagrius spewing a small flame cone infront of him and leaving a small trail of flame behind him lasting for 1 second
The whole entry is 4444 words long can i just pm a admin
Sorry btw if this is all not needed but i can get over the memory of the old single shot rail
void vigil
if you mean a mod, we can’t post there either, since supergiant are just not asking for suggestions right now. The channel was only for Daedalus hammer suggestions and had a very specific format too. you can backread it to see what I mean!
lost parcel
No i mean like so its atleast somewhere
I realy love this game and want to help the devs
But since im a kid with no coding experience
I tought hey lets just do this then
If you want i could try some concept drawings of the fellas
Nvm
Im bad at drawing
brisk trail
Ahaha my brother used to hate the game Idk why
Today I woke up he's telling me 'artemis op wait no poseidon special is strong'
Idk what happened but now he likes the game
primal whale
I mean, the most logical answer would be you aren't timing it perfect
lost parcel
Well le pof
Pact of punishment you wretch
Had damage numbers going over 2000
But nah
mellow vessel
How much hp did you have?
Also that’s a spoiler in this channel
Maybe switch to gameplay where it’s allowed
lost parcel
oh sorry my hp was 124
cinder lichen
that's a lot of SGG people online huh.
safe lodge
Planning a surprise drop?
cinder lichen
0o0 They speak!
chilly stump
Just a regular workday over here. 😄 Hard to stay off of Discord entirely these days!
cinder lichen
Ah, neat.
hoary sandal
fair enough
nova oak
Question: I like playing Hades via in-house streaming on Steam from my desktop to my laptop, but its always full screen. Is there a way to play it this way windowed? I took off Fullscreen in-game and my desktop shows Hades windowed, but my laptop still had it full screen.
oh nevermind. it was a Steam thing.
worthy egret
It hit me like a blast of lightning that the oc ive been making for a rpg is mostly shirless, black haired, with a wack dark sword and heterochromia and i sWEAR they have nothing to do with zag
But how have I not noticed the similarities while ive been thinking them out and playing Hades the entire time
They are also always barefoot ffs
flat vapor
are their feet on fire
worthy egret
Thank god no they arent there isnt gonna be a cease and desist from sgg
flat vapor
they don't take showers, ever
worthy egret
I mean a friend once hc'd that Zag's feet could look like soldified lava with burning cracks in them when they get doused
I liked that thought
flat vapor
there's no lotion in the underworld, unfortunately
worthy egret
I still wonder what's the deal with Zag's laurel as well
Like is that also on fire
That seems painful
No head pats for Zag 😔
jolly lodge
so if zag comes to the surface during autumn and steps in some dead leaves, he could easily start forest fire?
worthy egret
Yep
Good thing its winter
Homestly how does he not light elysium on fire
... Probably for the same reason that flamewheels dont
jolly lodge
live plants aren't very flammable, they are full of water inside
worthy egret
Are they really alive when in the underworld though
worthy egret
Yeahgh
jolly haven
yeah I used to play crawl for like 6 hours a day at least
wow I am in the wrong server LOL
plush beacon
My sleep shedule matches the day night cycle of the underworld
regal junco
Eternally restless
novel wasp
Im eternally anxious
quartz knoll
is Hades coming to switch
brisk trail
Additional consoles will be announced at a later date.
granite ether
from the #hades-faq channel
"Will Hades ever come to other platforms?
We expect to bring Hades to a variety of other platforms once Early Access is complete. We haven't decided on all the platforms yet."
quartz knoll
thanks
lyric fog
kinda imo. u still need to position urself well and not power shot everywhere
and theres different playstyles of the bow if you get lucky with daedalus
vapid grove
thanks
novel wasp
theres the i hate myself mode
theres the spam q mode
and then theres the *** H E R A ***
lethal fog
the H E R A should not be used with out proper training
do not use the H E R A with out proper safety equipment
novel wasp
you might experience the 
vapid grove
oh the most recent weapon lets you have 20% more darkness
lethal fog
every run a different weapon will give that buff
vapid grove
Oh ok
Might as well use those weapons then lol
I don’t see much positive from the sword over the spear
lethal fog
sword is faster, has an aoe special, 1 aspect gives a huge buff to cast builds
gaunt dome
Sword is great once you learn how to use it, forces you to get in close and learn enemy attack patterns
brave thicket
sword is the sec best weapon in the game imo
lethal fog
idk I think rail and shield are better but Poseidon sword is close
primal whale
Im pretty sure most people have their own rankings of weapons/aspects according to their own experience and play style
crystal plume
How does everyone feel about hell mode?
sharp parcel
it's just an annoyance
sharp parcel
I just think there's no point to it
crystal plume
If they are gonna do a type of hard mode like that it should be different
sharp parcel
you can achieve the same effect playing on normal, with the exception of instant death protection
crystal plume
It's basically just Hard in the beginning but not hard later
sharp parcel
yep
kindred onyx
lethal fog
they are easier to play for new players, but once you learn more about how to play each weapon they arent as good
sharp parcel
Aphrodite attack/Dionysus special, Athena attack/Ares special
and their respective duos, if you come across em
sharp parcel
the basic one?
it's uninspiring, that's true
but once you max out Chaos, you will not want to use anything else
vapid grove
I just unlocked gun ;__; @sharp parcel
novel wasp
@kindred onyx anything big percentage damage, preferrably Aphro, or Artemis, never take status effects
lyric fog
@vapid grove it all boils down to playstyle imo
i feel im powerful with a bow but i suck with the rail gun
its gonna be cheesy if u manage to find good boons for it
lyric fog
for bows some people are able to clear hades with explosive shot but i suck at that
i prefer the split shots and chain shots and power shooting everything
lyric fog
others like sniper shot but thats pretty hard
lyric fog
i use them like a shotgun
novel wasp
Then use Bow special
lethal fog
grab dual shot and flurry shot
novel wasp
invest a demeter special and then arctic blast
grab dual explosive
aw yea boom boom time
lyric fog
anyways, back to discussion, its all playstyle preference @vapid grove
i suck at spear and gun idk why
cant see myself reloading and mortaring enemies
lyric fog
for gun?
lyric fog
yeah but idk. i dont like shooting
novel wasp
then spam
lyric fog
im trying out guan yu spear
floral belfry
vapid grove
I had the final boss at like 10% health lol
novel wasp
for guan yu spear, you either have this. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BleakBlueIndigowingedparrot-size_restricted.gif
or you have this. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/metalslug/images/7/7f/Rbig.gif/revision/latest/top-crop/width/220/height/220?cb=20090304141543
novel wasp
on guan yu spear?
thats the tip
on redacted? learn the pattern, dont get skulled, otherwise, play more safe during this state
lyric fog
just dont spam attacks and learn his patterns
novel wasp
dash is your best friend
vapid grove
what is a special blast O.O
lyric fog
Q?
cinder lichen
What do you call that sound that plays in the soundtrack when you enter Elysium?
Or type of sound. Similar to the same kind of thing that plays in Payday 2's "Ode to Greed"
lyric fog
lmao shield with knockback boons is funnnn
smack a foe and send it flying across the map
cinder lichen
I feel like the shield attack was just made for Poseidon, somehow.
lyric fog
yeah. it sucks if the run doesnt have many poseidon boons tho
hexed smelt
i miss the days when poseidon on shotgun rail would send enemies across the map
lyric fog
was thinking im gonna fail at some point with 1 poseidon boon
at the moment ambrosia can only be spent by trading for items right?
hexed smelt
or giving it to people
lyric fog
its only showing me option for nectar tho
sharp parcel
you gotta nectar em a bit first
calm edge
i just upped to two heat and i have to FIGHT ALL THE FURIES?????? 😭😭😭😭 im gonna die
oh thank god just the one but that freaked me out
cinder lichen
Imagine
Multi-phased Fury fight
like the final boss
And before you ask: Yes, it is Spoiler.
livid cargo
Better idea
At extreme measures highest level you skip the furies fight in tartarus but then one each helps out in the other 3 fights
cinder lichen
Eh...
worthy egret
dont like that
cinder lichen
Lernie and Theseus would be hell with the Furies.
worthy egret
second phase lernie is already a bullet hell game dont add more bullets
cinder lichen
h
calm edge
i cry
lost parcel
bruh lernie ez
cinder lichen
It is also possible to destroy them with a single blow mid-flight. I wouldn’t recommend that though, unless you’re confident in hitting them.
calm edge
i must get good 😞
opaque nexus
someone asked for tips with guan yu?
regal junco
Ok so I'm not sure if this is a bug or intended so I don't want to necessarily report it, but charons lamp on his boat twinkles like it's examinable but it doesn't seem to interactable.
Soooo.
sturdy lichen
hey there! anyone can tell me what the Damage Control pact does? it just says it makes them ignore an instance of damage, but is it a regenerating thing? is it literally just a hit or is it more like armor?
mortal palm
literally just a hit
all enemies have a second(or third, if they have armor) hit bar similar to armor
if you hit them, it absorbs all damage and goes away forever(like armor)
it's basically an extra layer of armor with only 1 HP
sturdy lichen
huh
so it seems punishing for big hit builds but compleatly pointless for quick ones
interesting, thank you ^^
mortal palm
well keep in mind if you're a big hit build
there's a lot of dash damage boons that deal otherwise inconsequentia ldamage
so big hit builds just... dash into an enemy first lol
sturdy lichen
true true
btw, what are those big locks on the trinked place?
are they realted to those quests that i heard here and there?
smoky rune
How has Covid19 affected Supergiant's dev?
sharp parcel
little to none
mild needle
they are used to working from home offices
mortal palm
From personal experience the most significant change is possibly a slightly worse dev enviroment, along with it being harder to communicate with others.
lost parcel
Ayo possibly goodbye people ive acedentily taken 300% the allowed dose of sleeping pills
jolly lodge
if it's other than benadryl you probably need to call the ambulance
actually, if it's benadryl you still should call an ambulance
lucid geyser
autumn siren
i've finally met thanatos but i can't interact with him, he's just staying in his corner and that's all. what's wrong?
brisk trail
||This is why I smooched Meg and not you, Than. Also I'm straight, but especially 'cause you're a tsundere.||
worthy egret
Honestly tbh i would die for both meg and than
jolly lodge
we need an option to shove eggs onto than so he may brood those instead of emotions
merry harbor
Nice
quaint bramble
Yeah he’s thinking of more one-liners to name his moves.
worthy egret
But sometimes i wanna smak him like today when he yeeted before i could gift him and i was standing there with a bottle of ambrosia my dreams shattered
Get BACK here edgelord
Let me love you
Classic supergiant problem: the second any character is worried about me i immediately turn into a heart eyes goblin
Thanatos yelled Zagreus!! Today when I got hurt and I was ready to marry him on the spot
merry harbor
You're very valid
And there is something kinda cute about the literal personification of death being worried about someone dying, in a game when almost everyone else doesn't seem to mind when he does.
worthy egret
||Than, arriving: Life and Death, one and the same.
Me, having read the entry about Zag possibly being the god of blood and life: awwwwww||
Than is a softie for those he cares about
brisk trail
Okay, no Chain Shot, Explosive Shot, nor Twin Shot on a 25 Heat Zag bow run. This won't end well.
vapid grove
When I get like a 100% bonus attack damage from one god
then a 34% bonus attack damage from another god
is it 134% increased damage?
Or do they multiply the damage each time
Like (Base Damage)(100)(34)
slim thistle
I just got my first Hades win! (At 16 hours) I just needed to say that to somebody and none of my friends would care, so I'm just saying that here.
vapid grove
It's ok @slim thistle I'm gonna say it in this chat
I'll be so stoked
and congrats c:
slim thistle
Ya, my adrenaline was pumping there at the end.
autumn siren
i've finally met thanatos but i can't interact with him, he's just staying in his corner and that's all. what's wrong?
@autumn siren
i didn't refine that i also can't give him nectar at all. may it be some kind of bug or it's ok?
worthy egret
I think it's okay, i think i had the same thing
You should be able to nectar him up in encounters
autumn siren
...i also can't, i can only talk with him
deep pivot
Congratulations, Prologo 
slim thistle
Thanks!
cinder lichen
We should be asking the real questions here
Like what would the devs use the 
emoji for and if they can give us an example
flat vapor
they would use it for
deep pivot
That emoji is life
slim thistle
worn radish
I am sad there are no dusa romance options heh
vapid grove
Is it possible to remove this nitro booster role off of me
chilly stump
Unfortunately no, you'd have to remove the boost from the server itself. I believe all of our roles are prioritized over it though, so if you took a server role you'd be a different color at least.
vapid grove
Trying to figure out how to get any other role ;__;\
merry harbor
Bot commands channel! The pinned message tells the syntax and available roles.
deep pivot
The lilac name suited you more but you do you 
granite ether
The colour of the nitro boosting role
granite ether
No worries ^_^
cold flower
Don't wanna spoil nothin, ||In the Security Log some of my clears have a title next to the Heat (example Favored & Envied) anyone know a list of these and their meanings?||
distant sun
press f10 to report. sure.. let that one command crash my game. kind of ironic that the crash reporter crashes the game
timber lake
Man I am really in love with "Lament of Orpheus". @primal plinth did a freaking fantastic job.
Like it so sad and full of emotion. I could imagine Orpheus singing it when he first got out of the underworld. In Greek mythology, one of the ways Orpheus could have died was by Zeus's lightning bolt because he didn't want Orpheus to reveal the secrets of the underworld.
I just wanted to get that off my chest. It's like the 50th time I listened to that song today.
brisk trail
I think, "canonically", Dionysus's followers murdered Orpheus.
narrow hemlock
according to myth, yes, in a very not fun way
novel wasp
well
you see your limbs has a limited extension rate before it starts to become its own mind
and the dionysus' followers does that but didnt consider the extension rate
cinder lichen
Hades' Leimotif is almost like an inverse Left 4 Dead Horde warning.
rare leaf
Is there any way to kill yourself on last boss?
I threw him off the map and i cant end fight 😦
oooh he is loosing hp when the skulls explode 😄
worthy egret
oh my god how did you even manage that
rare leaf
Demeters gauntlet with poseidon special
And after i killed him in first phase he just fly away 😄
worthy egret
BYE DAD
agile saddle
@rare leaf last boss is spoilers
rare leaf
@agile saddle Done 🙂 Sorry 🙂
peak crest
hello everyone! Did SG say anything about continuing development while quarantine is going on or will they be postponing it until all off this is over? I hope they stay safe
sharp parcel
nothing's postponed, patch is slated for June, just as the in-game thingie says
agile saddle
@rare leaf Dem fists with Poseidon special feels so good when using special. Enemies really go flying
rare leaf
Yeaa. But i didn't expect the boss to do it either 😄
rare leaf
Haha, I agree
distant sun
wait a minute...
i think i can beat the 3rd boss consistantly with DD
cause ive beat them a few times with SD
the question is... how on earth do you get 1.5k gold? maybe there's a yt video on it
merry harbor
Chaos helps, as well as the gold-per-zone Mirror talent and prioritizing Obol rooms.
distant sun
it's wierd you guys call it that when syp's choices are healing, darkness, and charon. where does it even say it's that besides code
merry harbor
The codex?
sharp parcel
what, obols?
distant sun
just used guan yu for first time
got to 1st boss and died ||it was alecto|| and only mirror points were put in fated authority for farming necter
you know... so you are weak enough to suicide
oh it is in codex. still says charon first though
merry harbor
That's because it's his money.
distant sun
he's so rich he invented the economy
based on description... can you only use the purse in area one?
as in equip before run vs after any boss
merry harbor
You can equip it at any point for the effect. It just only gives you the money once.
distant sun
seeing how tartus is so easy maybe it's better for that
hoary sandal
I use it at Elysium, but only if I want to buy the expensive thing in Styx. If not, I normally find it easier to just break money urns.
For Tartarus it's nice using a god keepsake so you can:
Pick a good god for your weapon
Raise your relationship with said god
Upgrade your keepsake
Real easy farm for upgrading something until it's more useful, like the Skull Earring
quartz flume
Someone must've already asked this, but what's the deal with Zagreus's origin? In the game he's Hades' son, but there's also Hymn to Zagreus where his actual mythological origin is described. Born by Zeus, killed, reborn as Dionysus... that's where I get really confused
flat vapor
have you unlocked hymn to zag in game yet?
quartz flume
Nope, I didn't even know if it was used in the game
flat vapor
ah, you get it through a convo line with dio and orpheus, it'll make sense then
quartz flume
Oh, more story to come, then. Thanks
distant sun
im on my best run yet and i can't get to excited or i might slip. the pressure (trying to beat last boss without godmode ever enabled)
narrow hemlock
I mean all godmode does is give you more dmg reduction
distant sun
it's kind of cheap though. not like you earned it. prob good for farming though
distant sun
i guess hellmode is the only way to trully earn
what's the base dmg reduction?
20?
imma use it on the last boss
because im sick of not seeing anything new
narrow hemlock
"Earning it" implies it's a cheat and it's not. This is the entire reason I take issue with it being called godmode, bc of this mentality lmao.
tropic bloom
God Mode doesn't give you increased dmg done to enemies ?
narrow hemlock
No
narrow hemlock
It literally starts you with an additional 20% dmg reduction from enemies and caps at 80, +2 each time you die. That's literally all it does
tropic bloom
caps at fkn 80 ? 😮 wtf
distant sun
it's not cheating sure but it's prob the same as people complaining about ror2 players earning achivements on the easy mode where the first game only normal up gives em
narrow hemlock
You have to die a lot to even get it to 80
distant sun
this is why i don't like difficulties in games
tropic bloom
yea thats true
distant sun
it divides the community
narrow hemlock
Please learn and understand why this is even an option https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357344472880644118/698622599709851658/Screenshot_20200411-145635.png
distant sun
"drizzlet" meanwhile in GD and things like competetive games it's all about skill and you choose how hard you want. and then you got people with monsterous skills
i can reach the boss without it
i even have all 3 definaces
imma use it to guarentee survival
cause isn't there more work orders once you beat the game?
narrow hemlock
the thing I take issue with is people regarding using it as a negative thing, because I honestly don't think sgg sees it that way nor wants the community to view it as a negative
worthy egret
^
quaint bramble
That division is more a problem in gatekeeping mindsets in the community rather than with the game’s design. In essence it’s an electronic toy so machismo gleaned from how much harder the difficulty you beat it on was compared to other players who probably had just as much fun with it if not more always makes me shake my head.
worthy egret
Like i dont see why would people have a problem with it? For heccs sake its not forced on you or anything?
quaint bramble
Also sorry @worthy egret I accidentally stole your upvote placement lol
distant sun
dunky described these things well
are videos linkable?
he swears so once you finish that part that is relevant just turn it off unless you want to hear
it's skipped to where he talks about it
nani? "deus ex machinma" lol
hoary sandal
sums it up pretty nicely
hoary sandal
yeah good luck with that
hoary sandal
a lot
merry harbor
my friend i also cleared with guan yu a little ago with less than 100 HP
you can do it!
distant sun
i am going to farm the crap out of the godmode boon
hoary sandal
anyone who beats styx with guan yu is a hero for me
distant sun
trying to heal on him is a pain
distant sun
i havn't even upgraded the thing... just imagine
hoary sandal
just touch him and retreat
if you dont
stay as far as you can
and keep using your special
distant sun
hoary sandal
how much life left did it have?
distant sun
the boss?
hoary sandal
yus
distant sun
idk but it was pretty early in phase 2 also the majority of escape attempts were throwaway runs
hoary sandal
I could imagine
distant sun
was at around 40 attempts or so before i started farming shop items
hoary sandal
bad english
i needed to bring that thing to the boss to get that fate thing?
I dunno
never got out of Asphodel with Guan Yu
distant sun
i mean it showed prophecy fuffilled when i "reached the surface"
hoary sandal
well, it is correct
distant sun
i think it only applies to that aspect then
hoary sandal
for each 4th aspect there is a escape prophecy
distant sun
you get it to show up once you unlock the aspect before buying it
i want to save the blood for authur...
distant sun
i ment titan blood
hoary sandal
Ik
distant sun
ruthless is great if you can take plenty of hits i guess
cause dodging twice is so handy
i don't think you can have a single dodge without move speed for hades
hoary sandal
yea
single dash limits you too much
I don't like High Confidence
too much time on my runs I spend with half a health bar
distant sun
i can gain it but 15 max health at start sucks
i think golden touch is prob only good for farming gold
i spend gold alot
i like the bonus dmg to undamaged foes cause it helps at the start but you get free backstabs with spear so...
distant sun
do miniboss rooms increase rarity or lvl of boons?
hoary sandal
i like the bonus dmg to undamaged foes cause it helps at the start but you get free backstabs with spear so...
I always keep dash-attacking, bc it's more effective for me and makes more sense, in my point of view, always having a bonus damage then only have a strong first attack
do miniboss rooms increase rarity or lvl of boons?
minibosses give more chance for a Rare or better
I guess
distant sun
it gets boring when it's the only thing you do
can't imagine what the fists would feel like with dmg increases
you prob would use one
i dash attack alot too but atleast with the spear it's a bit unique
distant sun
oh syph does say obols. i just read the first word...
brisk trail
umm
worthy egret
Good job!!
tropic panther
is the limited time offer worhty?
regal junco
Its different each time so maybe
deep pivot
It depends on your needs, honestly
merry harbor
Depends on what the offer is. Sometimes the exchange rate is super great, usually for deals on Diamonds or Titan's Blood.
deep pivot
Exchanging a Titan Blood for gems is not worth it if you still have Aspects to lv up
@tropic panther do it
merry harbor
And after a while you stop having a need for keys beyond the broker deals, so they just sorta pile up.
tropic panther
the game may have some good usage for keys after some updates, never know
deep pivot
Keys you will be finding aplenty and you won’t have any use for them later on
tropic panther
15 keys takes several runs to get
merry harbor
But since they give Fated Persuasion or Authority, you still get them in runs after you've bought everything you need with them.
novel wasp
Currently destroying some fools in other games but listen to Out to Tartarus
regal junco
Oh yeah duh
novel wasp
Fated Authority or what i like to call, d20
it changes the room rewards
but Fated Persuasion, the d4, changes the boon rewards
but stays the same god
say the rarity is terrible (all white) you could reroll and get a better rarity
regal junco
yeah ok
novel wasp
personally prefer authority just because i can control to get less poms and less coin rooms
regal junco
But poms are nice
novel wasp
very low priority
regal junco
I guess
novel wasp
its just tad bit higher than coins imo
some skills doesnt need upgrade
infact getting more boons helps you more than having high levels but little boons
since upgrade gets less effective as the higher level goes
you wont get as high as you got it say upgrade from level 1 to 2, and tbh most of them just one or two level up is all you need
infact some doesnt even need level up and is already pretty useful, athena dash for instance
strong heron
common rarity level one athena dash > most other dashes in the game
merry harbor
Athena's dash on my first run nearly let me get to Meg, so I agree but I'm probably biased.
pseudo linden
Athena dash is a run winner for me, and iirc my 32 heat run was with Athena dash..
novel wasp
having perfect invulnerability compared to sub par damage?
athena dash is just good tbh
pseudo linden
not just invulnerability, deflection too. In a certain fight, a projectile if left on the field poses an additional hazard. Deflecting it gets rid of the projectile entirely without you having to hunt it down.
deep pivot
This reminds me of that time I played ping pong with the Final Boss. He kept spamming projectiles and I was just dashing around with Brilliant Riposte 
pseudo linden
Yeah the boss is much easier when you don't have to worry about those projectiles and they do deflect damage to the boss too
agile saddle
@cinder lichen last boss is spoilers
cinder lichen
whoopsie
pseudo linden
What do people think of Malphon?
novel wasp
what exactly is hydralite
is it hydra's blood
or is it hydra brand sponsored energy drink
🤔
pseudo linden
Huh
considering it does regenerate you, certainly sounds like it came from a hydra
novel wasp
also my opinion about malphon is pretty obvious judging from my name
especially grandma's mitten edition
pseudo linden
Oh
I.. kinda think it's weak?
Not in terms of power, I got my fastest clear with Malphon, but the special seems a little..
generic, comparing to the other weapons
with the exception of the Talos variant
novel wasp
its meant to combo with it
this is the most combo friendly special among all weapons
try that with rail's Q 
novel wasp
Demeter is called press Q for instakill
pseudo linden
My experience with Qs has generally been that they're a variety to the standard weapon
Malphon's Q seems to just enhance the normal hit, I suppose
but maybe it's just not my style
novel wasp
funfact its to make you continously punch more
because rapid clicking normal hit has a limit unless you get roiling knuckles
pseudo linden
Yeah but I continue the combo with a dash strike. I do remember that I have the uppercut but dash-strike is just.. easier
distant sun
"After returning to The House of Hades, Zagreus can turn in all the fish to the head chef to exchange for rewards. If the player starts a new run without turning in the fish, the fish caught in previous run will be lost forever." -wiki
novel wasp
zag just put them back to the water
distant sun
this a fixed bug? cause i ignore the chef and still keep em
pseudo linden
Which water tho
novel wasp
his scrying water
pseudo linden
imagine putting the Elysium fish into Asphodel waters..
novel wasp
also its meant to be a finisher move
distant sun
wiki is outdated then
pseudo linden
also its meant to be a finisher move
@novel wasp
I thought you were talking about the fish
distant sun
atleast it's got the reward tabls
pseudo linden
scrying pool dunk
distant sun
rare elysium is titan blood...
novel wasp
forgot what fish was it
distant sun
or is that chaos
novel wasp
chaos is jellyfeesh
distant sun
never know how to fish but learned from trial and error
pseudo linden
p.s.a for anyone who doesn't know, perfect catching exists
distant sun
what does catch 50 denzens and report to posiden even mean?
pseudo linden
Oh, catch a total of 50 fish and then get a Poseidon boon
distant sun
catch 50 fish and then talk to his boon?
distant sun
without murdering the poor things
distant sun
pretty sure fire fish can survive in fire
distant sun
3 DD's plus shield is a joke
novel wasp
using SD
distant sun
i slapped alecto to death
novel wasp
hue
novel wasp
say that to EM Hydra
distant sun
it's got to be family favorite
i want to beat the final boss but i gotta die a bunch of times again to get 80%
novel wasp
or Tisiphone with other 2 furies
God I hate EM tisiphone
how do you avoid when the circle is bigger than the room
cant perfect it angy
novel wasp
of course Tisiphone alone is easy
im saying EM tisiphone
and you just ignore that lmfao
pseudo linden
tbh Tisi when she's helping someone else has a bigger aoe than fighting tisi main
novel wasp
hue
distant sun
i bet im supposed to ignore them
pseudo linden
get athena dash and dodge into him whenever he holds out his spear
novel wasp
you should destroy them
pseudo linden
yeah def should destroy
novel wasp
especially he has phase 2 which summons the vases
distant sun
because i spend to much time killing the crap he spawns
novel wasp
the vases are mega annoying
pseudo linden
deflecting them destroys them easily, but you can stack death boons on the burning blood if you want
distant sun
i only got to phase 2 once
novel wasp
and one skull explode will cause chain reaction
distant sun
ik
novel wasp
altho, that would also mean he will reapply them
distant sun
i looked up
novel wasp
which more time for you nuke him
distant sun
but the guy didn't bother mentioning whatever is in the 2nd one
pseudo linden
they are if you're underpowered and you get a chariot
novel wasp
greatshield is the worst mob this game has given to me
pseudo linden
have you met benefits package snakestone on heat?
novel wasp
chariots are easy to manipulate and kill
distant sun
im not good at multitasking
distant sun
how helpful are companions?
pseudo linden
Sisyphus heals you
pseudo linden
yeah having huge damage doesn't mean much when you have invulnerability gating
novel wasp
since its the only companion that deals damage and is capable to use at final boss
distant sun
so i should just keep giving him necter then
pseudo linden
I thought you could use skelly on final boss?
distant sun
to the wiki
tacit sparrow
no he just distracts the enemy
novel wasp
consider redacted is a single target, skelly mainly just distracts enemies
whats the point to distract a single target
idk
also if you have trouble killing the mobs he spawned thats kinda your fault on the rng
distant sun
"upgradeable with ambrosia" does that mean perm upgrade?
distant sun
thought you ment 10 uses
novel wasp
11 if you count the one you give them in order to obtain the companion
pseudo linden
how does one post on the feedback channel?
cinder lichen
Just a bit effective, but if you can distract Redacted into attacking Skelly,
you can get Redacted to expose their back more often to you
Easy backstab damage
distant sun
everyone calling it redacted XD
distant sun
companions are redacted for me
cinder lichen
That they are too
distant sun
i wasn't going to try and figure it out so i looked up
giving hades a gift was annoying
he doesn't give anything :/ figures
novel wasp
prediction, the only way to get true ending is to max hades in the future
distant sun
does anyone else end up acc skipping dialogue cause they're in a rush?
pseudo linden
no?
novel wasp
why would you
pseudo linden
dialogue is the best part of the game, whatchu talking about
novel wasp
then skip it if you want
pseudo linden
oh yeah if I get to the repeats I skip
distant sun
but some don't repeat which sucks
pseudo linden
they don't repeat key information, and the repeatable dialogue is varied enough that it's not immediately obvious they're saying the same thing
quite immersive imo
novel wasp
funfact you dont have to skip dialogue when its timer heat
cinder lichen
You can only give Hades just 1 Nectar because of Ongoing Rennovations
I'm pretty sure he might give us something if we were able to give more
novel wasp
since time stops
cinder lichen
Plus you're his son running away from home, you think he's gonna make it easier for you?
novel wasp
hades keepsake, just makes you debuff overall
distant sun
no upcoming areas?
novel wasp
best keepsake 10/10
distant sun
no mirror keepsake
cinder lichen
pffft-
novel wasp
Nyx companion
cinder lichen
I actually imagined two ideas for a Hades keepsake
novel wasp
comes down and smash some hoes with mirrors
distant sun
is no mirror even possible
cinder lichen
One is definitely a Skull. Somehow significantly assists you in your runs, either across the entire run or specifically against bosses. Except against Redacted, where you're given a Boiling Blood effect that does not expire.
distant sun
you always have to have a cast one
pseudo linden
maybe his keepsake could give you an extra hit in Erebus
novel wasp
i managed to beat to elysium in a fresh save since im more experienced
cinder lichen
The other idea is basically akin to one of the other Olympian keepsakes, you get 1 Pity Boon from Hades himself.
distant sun
i hope they don't go the dlc route and just make an expansion when the game is done
then we could get to special areas
novel wasp
Olympian keepsakes are goood
distant sun
special biomes
novel wasp
or else duo building would be very ahrd
cinder lichen
To Be Continued...
Install the "Come Back Home" DLC from the supergiantgames.com website to see the ending
novel wasp
i would be mad
novel wasp
the reason dlcs sucks compared to expansions is that
DLC is literally taking the 5% of the game that was supposed to be in base
and then sell you that
distant sun
destiny...
pseudo linden
Supergiant doesn't do that tho
novel wasp
laughs in sims 4
pseudo linden
hell they upload their music for free on yt
distant sun
atleast bl3 is fine without dlc
distant sun
it's not about the story
distant sun
it's the worst one or close to tps not sure which is worse. but all of their games are terrible stories
novel wasp
bl2 is mad fun
pseudo linden
I liked bl2 though?
novel wasp
tps is mad fun
pseudo linden
the dialogue is enjoyable now that I take the time to appreciate it
novel wasp
meanwhile bl3 has tiny tina but 10 times more annoying
distant sun
once you watch one piece nothing is watchable
pseudo linden
as opposed to playing it as a kid
au contraire have you met kengan ashura
other shonen aren't watchable but other stuff certainly is
distant sun
wdym shooter element is more boring?
novel wasp
the game is not hard
despite it tries so hard to be so delicate in terms of its gameplay
distant sun
it's not supposed to be
novel wasp
but the time you stuck at the game, is only because the boss has more hp
than the last
which bl1, bl2, tps all suffer the same problem
but bl3 doesnt fix any, took them 8 years
distant sun
they made gear customizable atleast
novel wasp
and they ruin the writing of the story as well, making it less enjoyable than bl2 well done pitchfork
you mean changing skins?
novel wasp
dahl is the most boring manufacturer you can get
pseudo linden
dahl makes me feel like I have an ak in space
novel wasp
but ok
distant sun
you have wierd taste then
novel wasp
@pseudo linden vladof would like to have a word
pseudo linden
...um. Space ak, then
novel wasp
@distant sun im sorry dahl fanboy Im only into Jakobs or Vladof
distant sun
im not a dahl fan
pseudo linden
What's the one that you throw at people to reload it?
novel wasp
tediore
distant sun
i have no preference
pseudo linden
yes that
distant sun
i like variety
pseudo linden
tediore is amazing
novel wasp
its memey for sure
pseudo linden
I don't care about the damage, I just love throwing my gun at people
novel wasp
it has good damage
i have a friend i used to play with, use one purple tediore
carry him 3 dlcs
pseudo linden
was it hte minecraft shotgun
agile saddle
How is this Hades related?
novel wasp
anyway this sure is #off-topic-discussion
but i really dont wanna talk about bl3 more so if you want do it yourself
have fun
distant sun
it's not but trying to have people move a convo to a different channel is so dumb
who even does it?
novel wasp
rules is rules, try to argue that with mods, i dont like it either but for the sake of peace i dont really care
distant sun
ik but what idiot invented it?
novel wasp
the mods?
agile saddle
This is Hades discussion. If it's not Hades related move channels. It's not dumb it's there for reason
distant sun
all servers follow it
novel wasp
and possibly SGG staff?
distant sun
you can even get banned or server muted for going off road
novel wasp
tbh when you complain like that i think thats why you get muted, least we can have at least like 50 lines of convo of offtopic before it got cut
but ok
you do you
distant sun
these kinds of internet laws is why i think mods are scum even if they are nice. they are like doctors. prescribe you drugs that they are told are to help you but they didn't make them so they don't know what's in em. ignorant puppets.
novel wasp
if you are so unhappy then leave jfc
distant sun
but im just biased
cinder lichen
...This is giving me "I have art block" vibes.
novel wasp
i have artblock vibes?
cinder lichen
Some artist made a comic where she basically shoplifts
cinder lichen
and put it in a positive light
yeap
I'm pretty sure if a doctor prescribes you something and they don't know what's in it, I don't think they're a real doctor.
novel wasp
anyway this is getting out of hand, its best to just stop imo
pseudo linden
okay so well if someone has to get it back on track, can someone tell me how to post on hades-feedback?
novel wasp
:checkthepins:
cinder lichen
yeah that
pseudo linden
I wanna suggest that we get streak lines. I've killed Theseus like more than fifty times and he still acts like he's undefeated
check the pins?
cinder lichen
Pinned messages are often there for frequent questions such as that
You can either make your way towards the message, or get someone else's more loose description on how to reach the same objective.
granite ether
yeah, check the pinned messages in the #hades-feedback channel ^_^
that should have all the info you need to get access to posting in the channel
pseudo linden
Thanks 🙂
brisk trail
whats the best combo for spear
novel wasp
dash strike initiate, then attack, and if you feel like it, finish off with Q
can interchange between
but if its guan yu, invest in spin or special
brisk trail
ah i meant boons :D
novel wasp
tbh all of them are good except zeus
poseidon unless fully invested, is not worth it as well
but anything except zeus and poseidon (unless fully invested), you are gucci
if you want raw damage, go artemis aphro
demeter as secondary effect (apply in special recommended) combo with aphro just to abuse priv status
limpid root
hey
distant sun
introducing Vartha golf
novel wasp
Dio is kinda just there i guess, dio spear special doesnt work well because spamming same move to gain maximum effectiveness.
and spear special isnt good for spamming unless you get hermes faster special
limpid root
. >
novel wasp
Her percentage is the highest
thats why
if you want raw damage, aphro is your choice
distant sun
has anyone tried beating the game without dashing?
novel wasp
demeter comes in close second for reliable status effect
limpid root
jex i think thats hard
brisk trail
ahaha strangely enough both are the boons i avoid most
distant sun
how many weapons could do it though
brisk trail
especially demeter except her cast thing
limpid root
probably stock weapon u start with
distant sun
achilles could
novel wasp
@brisk trail bruh
distant sun
yah sword and the shield
limpid root
and using athena's deflecting mechanism
distant sun
maybe fists? idk if it makes you move
limpid root
and shield too
novel wasp
unless paired with artemis to get duo boon, you dont want demeter's cast
limpid root
the fist moves u forwards if u attack
brisk trail
my main way to go is twin fist with artemis and athena and zues
distant sun
it's fun playing golf with aspect of achillies
novel wasp
fist needs a lot of raw power
limpid root
is there a free play mode?
novel wasp
to be competitive during late game
brisk trail
the crits help from artemis cuz u hit many times in a row
limpid root
or should i have to mod the game for that type of thing
novel wasp
that is only if you have chaos strike boon
distant sun
wdym by freeplay?
novel wasp
the artemis damage boost is not enough and unreliable at times
distant sun
looping?
limpid root
upgrade anything and use anything at the start
like do anything you want
like sandbox type-ish
distant sun
nah
novel wasp
dio also suffers same issue, if you only have dio attack you will struggle end game
imo
limpid root
mk
distant sun
what even is dio oh... dino?
brisk trail
dionysus
distant sun
but dio is jojo
novel wasp
zeus works well on rail
novel wasp
essentially double damage but that only works great on zag rail
brisk trail
the arrow that comes out
limpid root
whats good from hammer for the bow?
novel wasp
zag rail is epic when you do it right and i love it
distant sun
i found one that deals bonus dmg on power shot
novel wasp
perfect shot is meh
sniper shot + twin shot is where its at if you dont feel like explosive shot
because i know not everyone loves explosive shot
the funniest thing is that perfect shot does less damage than twin shot when powershot
oh wait you cant combine sniper with twin
well i guess you can still go with perfect + twin, again, if you dont like explosive shot
novel wasp
honestly chiron makes me sad af, for not getting charged volley or piercing volley, two that works the best on chiron and just straight up too niche for other bow variant
limpid root
oh
agile saddle
Hera best bow. Can get some.of the highest damage output
novel wasp
well i wanna play something not hera
yknow dumb fun
zag bow is mediocre at best even at level 5
agile saddle
Most zag aspects are mediocre but they are cheap
novel wasp
zag spear is amazing
brisk trail
Zag Bow is excellent.
novel wasp
actually except zag spear, all zag aspects are either too mediocre to work on (rail is better than bow) or straight up goes into the 🗑️
brisk trail
All three of Coronacht's current Aspects are good, they're the most closely balanced of any weapon besides maybe Malphon.
novel wasp
i tried zag bow
brisk trail
I beat 32 Heat with Zag bow.
brisk trail
Sure?
novel wasp
and might be faster as well for how much raw damage it puts out
brisk trail
I couldn't do it with Chiron or Hera, though.
But spawning into Deadly Strike and Twin Shot is easy peasy clears.
novel wasp
Chiron is former shadow before it was op as hell
tbh just nerf the special damage value of the charged and piercing volley and then make chiron work
if thats what they concerned, having 450% damage
brisk trail
Piercing Volley only affects armor damage.
brisk trail
The reason Piercing and Chiron are mutually exclusive is because the arrows constantly circle the target.
novel wasp
tbh i just want the damage
novel wasp
then what about the charged volley
brisk trail
That's just busted.