fixed it i think
#h1-discussion
white wren
agile saddle
the game is getting more players everyday just wanna make sure if they are on here they dont see anything lol
stoic quail
Ohhhh... I just realises benefits must come from benefits package. I just thought it's probably something I've somehow not unlocked yet
hollow heron
is there a use for keys after i have all the weapons and mirror upgrades unlocked?
white wren
trading
hollow heron
sweet!
lean ferry
man it took so long to get the ominous columns but damn do they look good
frozen basalt
what's the name of thanatos theme music? it sounds really good i wanna know
lean ferry
last words
frozen basalt
Thanks!
forest grotto
@agile saddle the void if you mean chaos then since when has that been a thing? how come the fish codex has so many undiscovered fish do they plan on adding more i've only ever found 8 (2 per main biome)
remote moat
@forest grotto let me blow your mind
||when you press catch exactly when the white splash appears you cna get a perfect catch||
||also there are fish in chaos realm||
forest grotto
i've never encountered fish in the chaos realm also what does a perfect catch have to do with anything?
remote moat
||you get a chance on the rare fish||
forest grotto
well that sux since my hand eye coordination sux i almost always get a fish though
as soon as i say that i catch a different fish
agile saddle
@forest grotto yes fish can spawn in Chaos void
noble sage
sounds fishy
karmic oasis
So, if we got alternate bosses for the Hydra and Stadium battles ala the Furies in Tartarus, who/what do you think would be cool?
void vigil
i think the window for perfect catches has now become a bit more lenient?
i know with perfect catches theres a chance for either a mid tier fish or a high tier fish, and with normal ones its either low tier or mid tier
tawny patio
It's still 0.34 second in Scripts/FishingData.lua
noble sage
Jason
or Perseus would be interesting for Elysium
He would have words to say about Theseus for sure
aa for asphodel, Maybe the Namean Lion or a Chimera
karmic oasis
I'm super excited if they do something like that. The Furies are random, and I could see the bone hydra alts being the same, but I think it would be cool if there was a "champion" mechanic for Elysium. Like, if you beat Theseus and Asterius in one run, there's a roster you work through. When T+A are unseated, then you have to face Perseus, and so forth. I'm curious tho, what types of altered gameplay could there be? I like the idea of a legendary monster in Asphodel though, Nemean Lion, or Chimera. Also, maybe Bellepheron and Pegasus for Elysium?
karmic oasis
The gameplay shouldn't change drastically. Though the Furies definitely bring different actions and reactions, they definitely have similar movesets, enough to mix it up, not enough to make it difficult to adjust to.
grand oasis
is it stupd that i've picked up the habit of saying "Blood and darkness" in leiu of swearing when i play Hades?
void vigil
*adds "blood and darkness" to the list of proxy banned words*
hollow heron
I legitimately say sod off irl
void vigil
nope! dont swear, please!
hollow heron
Because you can say it with all the vitriol and hate that you can swear with
agile sleet
hollow heron
F
floral python
karmic oasis
I'm glad they finally fixed the volume sliders so that sfx wasn't tied to music volume. Now I'm able to crank up the tunes and I've gotten to like the Korn even more (it felt kind of washed out before)
paper umbra
music is really good yea, on the question of music is there a way to keep orpheus permanently singing in hades' place?
karmic oasis
I think it's just random.
I don't know if any of the songs are unlockable on the music stand. I've only gotten a few. Some story unlocks take lots of diamonds so I'm always loathe to spend them on music.
iron badge
i told myself i'd join this server once i finally beat hades and by neptune's beard i did it
night turret
Heeeey, Gratz on that!
nocturne rampart
Congratz !
iron badge
thank you chiron-sensei and granny demeter
brisk trail
Is Aphrodite bugged? i have never seen her boons spawn
night turret
RNGeenie is not with you
vast dagger
when are they adding Percy Jackson to the game?
brisk trail
So for 30+ runs my RNG is bad?
night turret
Yeah, I once waited 2 major updates for an NPC to show up.
iron badge
i remember the first time i got dionysus to show up for me
didn't see him anywhere for several more runs
vast dagger
just use the keepsake 
iron badge
i imagine if they haven't found aphrodite in a while
chances are, they haven't been able to give her nectar either to get the keepsake
brisk trail
yes its the only keepsake im missing
vast dagger
I know lol
brisk trail
š
hexed thunder
Took me a while to find hermes too when I first started
empty ferry
hermes isnt immediately available when you start a new save
candid pike
i mean i did couple of runs and i found Than just twice xD
empty ferry
aphrodite gets unlocked very quickly though
brisk trail
I wanna wait till the Zag finds out that dionysus is his half bro
brisk trail
oooo I see 
forest grotto
does anyone the deal with artemis and zeus they have lock hearts instead of the timer ones now
forest grotto
the pins???
halcyon radish
That moment I relate the most to Zagreus by wanting to escape the Hell that this year has been
alpine stratus
the pins in spoilers channel
karmic oasis
I woudnt know, I've been social distancing even from my family since I started playing this game.
I call it "doing my part". I was just ahead of the curve.
forest grotto
i don't know how to do the pin thing unfortunatley
forest grotto
@molten haven yeah nope nothing i can find
molten haven
On the spoiler channel
sggheart What does it mean if there's a clock/timer on the next heart in the codex? sggheart
It means you've reached the current limit for gifting this character! You'll have to wait for future updates for further conversations.
sggheart What does it mean if there's a lock on the next heart in the codex? sggheart
This means there is a special event which will unlock the next section of the heart meter. This is different for each character, and in some cases, it will require you to do specific actions. Just keep talking to them!
tight obsidian
briefly glanced over past suggestions in #hades-feedback... whats wrong with the ovid version of medusa's myth?
brisk trail
How do I get afflicted by the caustic status effect?
molten haven
ChildrenZagreus, Macaria, and in some cases Melinoe, Plutus, and The Erinyes
cold maple
Hello, i've noticed a bug but i can't write in feedback. How should I proceed? š®
void vigil
read the pins in that channel for instructions on how to post there!
cold maple
thanks, pins are easily forgotten š¦
void vigil
also, bugs can be reported with F10 in-game
cold maple
ooh, didn't know this one either
void vigil
the feedback channel isnt for bugs 
cold maple
...
forest grotto
my current build is ares special + doom stack + chaos special damage increase + demeter's gauntlets. now all i need is to get hermes attack speed increase and the recharge time will be set lol
median kite
I just was playing with the arthur aspect and you can cancel the special animation into a dash and it will come out where you end, its actually really busted
median kite
True
Try it out though cause I got greater reflex and stuff so i had 4 dashes and I could special then dash twice and it would go off wherever I was
so my special would hit twice with the hammer upgrade and I could buffer the animation in my dash
sudden pike
btw for that aspect
what does the special even do?
ik it slows projectiles but is that it
median kite
it reduces damage you take by 20% at lvl 1 and slows projectiles
coral torrent
Inb4 Hades is announced for Nintendo Switch on the Indie World stream today
candid pike
dont have switch :/
candid pike
do you guys play with keyboard and mouse or controller?
sudden pike
kbm
candid pike
im not that rich xD
molten haven
Controler, some games are meant to be played like that
coral torrent
but also Smash, Odyssey, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Tetris 99, etc
sudden pike
ew pokemon
coral torrent
New Pokemon is the worst in the series but it's still good and fun
sudden pike
yeah i'm just bitter
coral torrent
Trust me I've done my fair share of silly whinging over those games myself
But ye lets hope Supergiant get Hades on Switch. Also Pyre is missing too but I havent played that yet so idk if it would translate to console well
I prefer all my stuff on PC but Hades would be awesome to have portable
iron badge
hahaha oh man
that relentless volley + chiron synergy change
i got my win in the perfect time
brisk trail
it says Shatted Shackle in the patch notes lmao
sudden pike
noticed that too
livid geyser
sure does lol
lofty ravine
hey, is the patch pushed already on the launcher? it didnt start downloading yet
alpine stratus
oh no....
lofty ravine
ok now its downloading
spiral sun
do they put patch notes on a web site too? can't have two discord windows open
fair lagoon
Relentless Barrage (Bow): fixed greater-than-intended shot count with Aspect of Chiron
well that was fun while it lasted
strange wedge
hmm, new patch, new bugs? after the update, the game crashed in dialogs, after patches the game stopped crashes in dialogs, but started to crash during battles! I hope the menu does not start flying now.
knotty epoch
spiral sun
@knotty epoch 1,000 thanks
scenic glade
Is it just me, or are the Fists even harder to play with than the sword?
I always have trouble with the sword because I need to get so close to enemies to damage them that I take a lot of damage
spiral sun
they took me some getting used to
scenic glade
the Fists feel like they have the same problem, but maybe slightly worse
spiral sun
usually at ~15 heat, dropped to base 5 for fists, still lost my first 2 runs
spiral sun
but unlike the bow/gun/spear, they do require a 'dancing' concept
so they ahve the same move and attack issue
scenic glade
I usually play at 5-8 heat, and I died before Redacted on my first run at 0 heat
remote moat
could also jsut be a build / skill issue
scenic glade
It does seem like the fists kinda stunlock enemies
like the Gun's explosive fire used to
which is helpful
spiral sun
yea my first 4 runs were dying to the couple, then redacted, then barely made it, then made it cleanly
scenic glade
well
remote moat
i've been flying from 1- 11 xD
scenic glade
I guess I need more practice
it was just mildly shocking to not even make it to Redacted on my first run
coral torrent
Rip no Hades announcement on the Indie Nintendo stream
scenic glade
maybe once it's got a final release date set
coral torrent
Ye well they did only just say recently they were gonna take a while to work on making the game ready to port in the patch notes
vocal thorn
The sword can handle the small chariots a lot faster than the fists, because the sword can clip the chariots at the end of special radius. The fists, however have to just run the chariots into things (if it doesn't have something else, like a good cast), which takes so much extra time, especially if 20-30 small chariots spawn
and running 20-30 small chariots around and around and around things, hoping they'll self destruct, can get tedious
coral torrent
Small wheel bois make me run
spring plaza
@vocal thorn Let's be sincere, with a lot of Heats activated, the game is tedious. Some armoured enemies will take eons to be killed. Unless you have a good speed and a very damaging weapon or for crowd control or space control.
scenic glade
oh yeah, small chariots vs fists is not a good time.
sinful berry
@scenic glade do you want a protip for sword?
scenic glade
nah
knotty epoch
hypnos-style protip: have you tried doing better :^)
but fr apparently you can special and then dash immediately and that makes you special at the end of your dash
acoustic lantern
git gud 4head
knotty epoch
it works for multiple dashes too iirc? but this has made sword a lot better for me personally
brazen lake
are there gonna be duo boons for all god combinations?
void vigil
yep
vocal thorn
@spring plaza lol this is true. The game is perfectly fine around the 12-20 level, which is what most streamers seem to be using, but once the heat level gets to like 32, I feel like the RNG is a lot more challenging that the actual game, because I'm start scumming game seeds, hoping to be blessed with good enough DPS to meet the deadlines
cunning yacht
i wish there was a way to make duo boons always show the chat with the 2 gods
its so fun when u get it
spring plaza
@vocal thorn For me, bad player, I just hope all is unlockable and enjoyable to complete without having to finish the game with 32 heats or even above 16 heats (I think I got my divine derriĆØre kicked at 18 heats). I am sure, I am not being the only one enjoying Hades for the fast and awesome gameplay but also for the universe (music, dialogues, arts, etc.). I understand dedicated and challenge thirsty players would like more heats, buffing enemies or nerfing some boons and all. But isn't it what Hell Mode should be for? For now, I am just glad Hades is very much accessible and enjoyable without being a dedicated or talented player.
I still think that at Higher Heats, Hades should take example on Dead Cells which give to the players access to more powerful versions of weapons and items when they raise the difficulty. Anyway, there is no perfect solution to balance a game properly. As long everybody, players bad, novice or expert and the developers have fun š
brisk trail
I think that the game's progression will be "maxable" (enough Titan Blood and Ambrosia to go around) with 20 Heat on all weapons or less and a little bit of time.
void vigil
sometimes you can buy diamonds and titan blood if you save your money, idk about ambrosia tho
brisk trail
Ambrosia is the second-to-last item in the Broker's trade chain.
Two Ambrosia into one Titan Blood, I think it's ten Diamonds for one Ambrosia.
spring plaza
With some weapons, 20 heats is very tough...especially if it is a dry run.
deep pivot
It also depends on how you make the most of it. For example, last night I had a build I didnāt have high hopes for but it did work out in the end š
brisk trail
Dry run?
iron badge
when you don't get the boons or hammers you really need
deep pivot
To get an Ambrosia you need 2 diamonds so it would be 2 diamond buys from Charonās shop in Styx
brisk trail
We all accepted that RNG could screw us when we bought the game.
Both of my 32 Heat clears were only because I got nearly perfect set-ups.
vocal thorn
The only actual thing I'm advocating for, is all heats up to 32 should be based on player skill, instead of based on luck with RNG. I don't think that fixing tight deadline is an impossible task, or even a difficult task, it's just not something the devs care about
brisk trail
32 Heat is intentionally an extreme challenge.
vocal thorn
Fighting RNG isn't a challenge though. It's more like a slot machine
brisk trail
The game gives you ways to manipulate RNG, and in 32 Heat's case there is no substantive content locked behind it.
deep pivot
I was thinking Schpoon would upvote that Megaeraās after session buff in feedback
vocal thorn
I'm still not sure what level things should be balanced around. Like, I'm playing hell mode, and I'm not sure if my minimum heat level is eventually capped at 26, or if eventually my savefile will becoome junk
I think my bounties stop at 25, so I'm assuming my minimum heat requirement won't be higher than 25 or 26, but I dunno. So far, everytime I beat the game with a weapon, the minimum heat level to start the game goes up by 1
night turret
Oh, my!
that sudden realisation that you still got 0 heat bounties, like finding 10$ in a couch
vast junco
had the same revelation a couple days ago lol
brisk trail
Gimme a link, @deep pivot
amber garden
Yessss. Sword special attacks my cursor now!
deep pivot
#hades-feedback The one where it says "It would be cool if every time meg and zag go to zag's room you'd get a buff for your next run. Something on the level of bouldy buffs maybe"
(I don't know how to link to that but it's only a small scroll up)
jaunty crypt
Hi. Is here any place to write bugs?
deep pivot
@jaunty crypt You can F10 any bugs you find ingame
jaunty crypt
@deep pivot thanks š
gray sun
so, just to make sure, you can't level up Aspects of Weapons during a run right?
Cause I'm on aspect of Talos rn, and it's got a lvl 2 sticker like it was upgraded by a Pom
It doesn't seem to have had an effect, as it's still 32% at heroic rarity
old pagoda
my computer overheated in the middle of my fight with meg and the screen froze ... but the game was still running, so i died š
barren rune
@gray sun the levels just signify how much you've upgraded it with titan's blood
gray sun
I know, but that changes the rarity
this bug just slapped a LVL 2 on it that I haven't see on any other upgraded aspect in any other ru
knotty epoch
It's apparently a bug with that that happens when you upgrade the rarity of your attack
sharp parcel
new bugs?
knotty epoch
It's not new for this patch. I think it was in last patch
gilded sentinel
I previously stated that bows feels weak comparing to other ranged weapons. I was wrong, with some boon combinations and hammer upgrades this weapon is a monster.
timber topaz
Hey, have any of you guys noticed, like, blurring after the most recent update?
Because I feel like the graphics have been a bit less crisp, and I'm wondering if that's just in my head, or if I should mention it somewhere.
chilly stump
Hey Jibbanerbs! I can't say off the top of my head if we've been getting any reports of that, but please 
when you feel like you're experiencing it and describe it in the bug reporter. We don't mind checking out false reports, it's better to be sure. š
timber topaz
Oh cheers.
brave zinc
I have to say, the new dodge upgrade from the mirror has extremely generous window frames to be activated
amber garden
It does
fringe lynx
I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature
or should I be putting this somewhere else
ah well, we'll start here
the columns in the hydra room are seemingly solid, and attacking them causes a slight bounceback
and they block attacks from going through
but my athena spear can still deflect attacks on the other side
readily exploitable, but probably unintentional
autumn tartan
Dear Than,
stop vanishing immediately and let me love you
sincerely,
Me
tight obsidian
^
agile saddle
Than and Zag make such a cute couple
daring hull
Dear Than,
stop vanishing immediately and let me love yousincerely,
Me
@autumn tartan mood man š
autumn tartan
I just want to shower the cutest God of Death with gifts and cute gay loving
barren rune
than is so dang anime i really can't pull the trigger on the zagthan romance line
autumn tartan
He's CUTE
barren rune
like i admire sgg's willingness to fully commit to brooding anime boy
tight obsidian
honestly im just projecting my attraction to than with zag romancing him
barren rune
personal preference goes to meg and zag as a couple
autumn tartan
don't call me out like that
tight obsidian
lmaoo
autumn tartan
I'm in the "ship all the ships" camp ngl
barren rune
brooding emo anime boy
autumn tartan
Me, getting Hades,
Why the heck is everyone so CUTE?!
barren rune
man i sure love hades, supergiant games' new dating sim
merry harbor
honestly it's hard for me to think of him as emo making death jokes because it's about as dorky a move as Poseidon's constant water puns in context to me
Or like a science teacher making "what'sa matter" jokes
barren rune
i keep meaning to draw meg and zag in the nier automata cover pose. meg dramatically bridal carrying unconscious wounded zag
dramatic steam in the background
lotta drama
autumn tartan
[dreamy sigh]
barren rune
he's short and meg's tall and that means they're perfect for a dramatic pieta pose
autumn tartan
My new crack ship is Stygius x Transistor and Meg x Red don't @ me
barren rune
god imagine we got aspect of red for the last stygius aspect
tight obsidian
if only
tight obsidian
though it would certainly break transistor lore id love a transistor stygius
mortal ivy
Aspect of Crail
opaque nexus
Whatās the alternate thing for thick skin
tight obsidian
high confidence
opaque nexus
Extra damage at full hp?
mortal ivy
I think it's extra damage at like 80% hp?
tight obsidian
its alright
opaque nexus
My feedback about it got a massive 33 upvotes
autumn tartan
I just want like, a buyable gemstone alt skin station for the weapons that let you use different skins with aspects of choice
tight obsidian
that feedback was for a different one tho
opaque nexus
I later said most of them were not very balanced
tight obsidian
but yeah i only really equip high confidence cause thick skin makes the game too easy
ah
opaque nexus
High confidence may be good for guan yu but actually no
mortal ivy
I like high confidence with ranged weapons like the rail or the bow
cinder stump
High confidence damage bonus is small, unless it is a seperate multiplier than it is fine
mortal ivy
That one was 6% more damage for every different god boon you have?
opaque nexus
I had an idea for something instead of high confidence
vast junco
@mortal ivy yeah
opaque nexus
Itās the same idea, but it acts like that acorn trinket, where you keep the damage bonus until you get hit 3 times in a room (add a safeguard so it doesnāt get ruined by lava or damage over time maybe)
I mean if you get hit 3 times youāre usually gonna be below the threshold anyway
mortal ivy
Or just bonus damage for rooms you haven't taken damage in. Which I don't think I would take over thick skin... 3 hits, maybe?
opaque nexus
Thatās what I said
mortal ivy
Yeah I'm just thinking about it. It's not a bad idea
Here's a question: do Hermes boons count for the family favor (I forgot the name) talent?
opaque nexus
I think so
mortal ivy
And Chaos does not count?
opaque nexus
I donāt know
deep pivot
Hermes' boons count. Chaos' don't count
opaque nexus
Chaos rights
mortal ivy
Ah, the description says Olympian boons so yeah no Chaos
deep pivot
Also, I'm having 5 different gods' boons by Elyssium without using their keepsakes š®
opaque nexus
Chaos is better than most actual olympians smh
narrow hemlock
Splitter: less likely to retreat over magma pools firstly, did they mean spreaders? secondly, https://gyazo.com/b94a4ca76b54bce06202479c31bd39c1
mortal ivy
So it seems like you can get more damage from Family Favourite, but it only beats Privileged Status once you have boons from 7 different gods
opaque nexus
Very rare
pliant dagger
that's....a lot of gods
opaque nexus
Not worth it
deep pivot
Family Favorite is more useful when you can't trigger Privileged Status
It has been my staple since it got added
Because then I have more liberty in my builds
If your build can easily get 2 different status curses, then Privileged Status is better in that case
twin kayak
When you enter Charon's room in Asphodel Zagreus sometimes says "Something's here" but I can't seem to find anything besides Charon, does anyone know what this is about?
normal wraith
He's talking about Charon.
worthy egret
My friend asked for some non spoily harmless hades gameplay so im gonna record tartarus up till the boss and if than appears i will eat my hat
worthy egret
I'M EATING MY HAT
normal wraith
If yall look in suggestions for a post by 'untitled dusa game'. I want that as a fan game now. Imagine being dusa having to clean dust from the entire house in a bullet hell type fashion, dodge the prince so he doesn't distract you from work, and feed cerberus in increasingly more difficult levels.
cinder stump
I still like her "Whoa, big mama!" line when you summon her for the stomper/gorgon midboss
stiff trellis
If you start a new save he probably won't appear
@worthy egret
Oh. Too late, huh
worthy egret
Oh sorry i was too full of hat
stiff trellis
Understandable
calm laurel
have a nice day
infinity paw
worthy egret
snap
calm laurel
dead
worthy egret
[zagreus dying voice] ms nyx i dont feel so good
stiff trellis
[Narrator voice] Zagreus didn't feel so good.
worthy egret
God that would be so hilarious though
Narrator narrating what Zag literally just said/did
Also please consider
Zag: I'm not scared.
Narrator: Zagreus was scared
stiff trellis
Oh
west chasm
And no, common low-rolled Chaos blessings don't count
stiff trellis
I know the feeling
west chasm
This is a Hestia run ffs
stiff trellis
oof
worthy egret
Oh yikes
deep pivot
Just dash near the pillars, you cute Argentinian gamer 
west chasm
It's just
They blend in so easily with the dark floor in erebus
Like really i can't deal with flamewheels
deep pivot
There, there. Itās going to be ok š
west chasm
thank u...
worthy egret
I still havent been in Erebus
I mean I have the infernal gates unlocked but i have only now started playing with heat
tidal hedge
hidden geode
I think I might have to take a break from Hades for a while
The game has just been frustrating me as of late
Animal Crossing can be my new obsession
west chasm
Eh, hard games have that thing going for them
The community around hard games has made it some sort of a "rite of passage" to beat a game in the highest difficulty
median eagle
Anyone know if the update from 27006 to 27008 addressed the Pitch-Black Darkness issue where it was only awarding max-life once in a while whenever it wanted?
west chasm
Like some sort of cool kids club
Then you feel bad with yourself for being unable to play a game at a high difficulty
Like me
brisk trail
question about the new mirror abilities. When you swap abilities on the left, will it retain both the abilities, or only the one you swapped into?
visual briar
the latter
hollow heron
It's only the one you swap to
vast junco
darkness invested in the other remains but yeah only one talent per row can be active
brisk trail
gotchya, thanks!
brisk trail
I literally canāt unlock Aspect of Arthur
Do I just need to have Guan Yu unlicked, have Aspect of Zagreus equipped and talk to Nyx?!
Also having 5 titan blood invested in the swords overall
normal wraith
You need to beat the game with the sword post update.
As well as wait for the conversation to proc
It'll happen soon after you do it.
brisk trail
Do I need to beat it once with the sword post update and then keep beating it with the sword until the convo hapkens?
happens
normal wraith
Just once.
brisk trail
Or do I beat it once with the sword, then play with any weapon I want and whenever Nyx stands there, go to my room, switch to the sword and talk to her?
normal wraith
A lot of dialog was added for her this time around so don't be surprised if it doesn't come up immediately.
brisk trail
Because I have beaten the game about 4 times since the update and all 4 times were with one of the swords
vast junco
nyx can also have backlogged events that she has to get through before addressing arthur
so it can take quite a few runs sometimes
brisk trail
Wait does it have to be Zagreuses aspect that I need to beat the game with?
vast junco
no
brisk trail
Ok good
Also do I have to have Zagreuses aspect on my sword when I go talk to her
or any sword in general
modern crag
Weapon aspect doesn't matter that I know of
sudden pike
you can win without leveling but if you wanna make it easier then go for it
brisk trail
Upgrading it just gives you more starting health back as far as I know
umbral sigil
Okay, so the new fists are kinda sick, but the icon change for boons is... less cool.
royal fern
i just ran in eurydice for the first time in a few updates and holy cow her song is so goooooood
into*
brazen isle
Yessssss
Itās on Spotify along w the Hades Soundtrack if u want to listen to it on repeat
royal fern
i looked for it immediately to do just that ahaha
stray jay
Do Chaos/Infernal gates always offer the same options to continue afterwards as the path they were on?
Ex: there's a trial of the gods I wanna do, but I also wanna go in the Chaos Gate. If I go to Chaos, will it offer me Trial of the Gods?
spring plaza
@stray jay Nope, It is a different choice of possibilities
stray jay
Okay, thank you
spring plaza
If I am not mistaken, Chaos or Erebus gates act a bit like alternate path for the next room only
stray jay
Ah, alright. I'll keep that in mind.
flat vapor
chaos/erebus always take up a chamber (unless you take one that would replace a pre-boss room, in which case it will always spit you out at the pre-boss room)
novel wasp
sad
verbal lotus
Are there the same amount of chambers you must do each act every run?
warm dove
is there anyone get full decoration yet?
buy 3 of hall decoration cus dont know where the decration place at
1 flower, 1 simple flower, 1 bone
feel waste of gem š¦
novel wasp
thats the point of decos lol
spring plaza
@verbal lotus I would say it should be the same number of rooms but some run feels much shorter as you can go through more encounters or special rooms.
quick sigil
anyone know what spending 8888 darkness on the eldest sigil does?
deep pivot
@quick sigil ||It lets Nyx go visit Chaos. After that, you can max their bonds with Ambrosia||
novel wasp
whats other gods good with ares doom build
chrome heron
i dont think there's anything that directly synergizes with doom AFAIK, so you might just want to keep getting doom-buffing boons from ares
adding lightning from zeus also gives a bunch of burst damage
novel wasp
sad
they should totally give a good synergy
i think merciful end is one
but its so specific and the two best part of deflecting comes from the attack or special or i guess dash
chrome heron
yeah, i mean if you have a good deal of deflects (athena on attack) it's ok, but even if you're proc'ing it it doesn't do much
You'd need a zeus-aspect shield with athena on special and ares on attack or something
novel wasp
Yeah either you are deflect heavy or doom heavy
chrome heron
yeah
novel wasp
you wont get any of the two balanced
chrome heron
ok but deflect gets real strong anyway
chrome heron
Zeus shield + charged shot + athena on attack
- Ares/Zeus/Demeter on special
- Crystal beam and cast buffs
novel wasp
aight got merciful end
more doom damn it
also ares and athena duo convo is the most salty one by far
the dumb war god vs the smart war god
grandma hates everyone
narrow hemlock
"most salty" Looks directly at demeter zeus duo where zeus tells demeter her wit is as fallow as the earth in her care and she should perhaps tend that instead
spring plaza
@warm dove Legendary fish can only be caught in higher Heats or it is all about luck?
warm dove
luck and perfect catch
spring plaza
Perfect catch?
warm dove
catch imediately right after it get pulled down
flat vapor
summer forge
so how do you meet demeter or is it just random
spring plaza
@flat vapor @warm dove Merci for that quick answer
summer forge
so the 69th floor
warm dove
farming with fish is the fastest way to get gem key and nectar
summer forge
thanks
warm dove
reach to the surface
brisk trail
received 3 nectars from the fish at chaos
mild needle
projelly
brisk trail
ye that
summer forge
there are fishing ponds?
warm dove
buy a fishing rod with 3 diamond
summer forge
I haven't noticed them but how they look like..
warm dove
unlock the most awesome mini game
summer forge
also is it just me.. but for the twin fists aspect of demeter.. is a one extra special hit that much of a difference in the game
hollow heron
it scales with level
summer forge
mind if you can explain?
hollow heron
you can level up aspects
summer forge
ya I figured
hollow heron
each level on that one adds an extra special hit when it procs
summer forge
oh alright makes sense..
haven't played the game in a while
so i'm probably out of loop with most of these updates
hollow heron
i was in your spot a couple days ago as well
don't worry
you can mouse over the level up button to see what it upgrades
summer forge
are there other ways to obtain titan blood other than defeating the first boss and exchanges
queen crag
prophecies can give them
hollow heron
last boss also gives them generally i think š
queen crag
yup, spaced that one lol
summer forge
and you can get them once from defeating the first boss with different weapons
neat
night turret
And then you get heated for new rewards.
novel wasp
some of the limited run trade price are really stupid
like for the love of god why would you trade 2 titanblood for 1 ambrosia
novel wasp
your weapon needs more for that
titanblood is in everyway more valuable than ambrosia
queen crag
while i agree, ambrosia is much less common and you need alot for later on
queen crag
so its nice having the option to trade
novel wasp
i think two titanblood for two ambrosia is more fair
incase people like reverse trading
plus, it is much easier to trade ambrosia with diamonds
queen crag
the shopkeeper has to make a profit somehow lol
novel wasp
i remembered it was 5 diamonds
now its dropped to 2
darkness still remains very useless after you have like all the mirror upgrades
kinda wish you get more limited run option that lets you trade darkness to gems
queen crag
i super agree, i wish there was a trade to get rid of extra darkness in the store
mortal knot
but where else can i put my noir droplets?
queen crag
like darkness for literally anything
novel wasp
i think i would love a 1000 darkness for one diamond
night turret
Probably wont happen with this economy
novel wasp
5000 darkness for 1 titan too
queen crag
i feel that even having super high darkness prices for very little reward would be good enough
just something to use it on after mirror is done
night turret
I just ended a run with 2k darkness
night turret
It's not garbage, it's just other Aspects are too good.
queen crag
i like the new aspect
queen crag
but higher heat kinda wrecks it
novel wasp
because if you nerf you are guaranteed to piss off the 50% of the user who sworn by it
night turret
I dont like that Arthur cant have any bonuses if you dash-attack with a cleave.
novel wasp
i just like arthur's big slappy
queen crag
the dash attack is super duper wonky with arthur for sure
hollow heron
nerfs are fine tbh
mortal knot
but like you just tank hades for 90% dmg and not move 
hollow heron
as long as they don't make the weapon just less fun
night turret
Cleave-dash doesn't use Hammer for double dash-attack, and Artemis bonus to boot! I felt robbed.
queen crag
oh no, throw him in quarantine
mortal knot
aphro cast, resistance from both aphro and athena, aura
night turret
It was even sadder before it became CHUNK
queen crag
i haven't used it since the update, is it really that bad now?
mortal knot
mah shotgun 
novel wasp
My mom's love shotgun isnt so loved
mortal knot
btw, what gods do i even go for the fists, tried here and there but...dunno
zagreuses aspect so far seems pretty good
hollow heron
i feel like it's impossible to balance aspects that scale like demeter does
because if you make them balanced at max
they're awful at first
night turret
I like talos, because it makes dealing with C-word people that fly over the gaps and lava so much easier.
warm dove
i love them both
novel wasp
also have the scariest grandma as your stand is pretty funny
warm dove
that why i maxed out everything\
novel wasp
Witness my stand, Scary Grandma
hollow heron
i don't have the blood to max stuff out š¦
warm dove
you shall dieeee, Scary Grandma legendary boon
mortal knot
would like a hold for rapid attacks without a gap hammer upgrade like zagreuses sword on fists tho
so far, them upgrades be kinda weird
kick seems most fun
summer forge
gods: okay we'll help you. trial of the gods.. nope freak you i'll kill you for picking favorites
š
warm dove
trial of god my favorite
mortal knot
aphrodite's new trial angry mode scares me
summer forge
like come on gods.. can we be more logical here
mortal knot
anything is better than her anger
warm dove
Supergiant remake some god punishment very cool tho
novel wasp
laughs in athena
warm dove
greek god are selfish
novel wasp
athena is probably the worst one
mortal knot
warm dove
worst in what way?
hollow heron
i can't do aphro
summer forge
I try to avoid trial of gods
warm dove
oh man
mortal knot
both are my bane in current patch
summer forge
so I haven't seen some of the gods angry
hollow heron
trials are crazy good
warm dove
1 day you will know
hollow heron
go for them
warm dove
trial of god is a blessing
hollow heron
2 boons is such a big reward
warm dove
2 boon
hollow heron
i basically never pass one up
warm dove
try to remember their punishment
summer forge
well there's that but I also don't get them often?
warm dove
go for the easy one
mortal knot
but keys tho 
summer forge
also keep in mind i'm like in the beginning of the game so
farthest chamber i've reached is 30
summer forge
elysium looks so amazing though ngl
queen crag
elysium is super pretty, i love it
summer forge
is that the next region after elysium?
mortal knot
you will see when you see
summer forge
š¤·
mortal knot
Tho just got back to the game like a day or two aaaaaaaaand man, Nyx is one foxxy momma now
such a good design to counter balance hades
meaning art
from the skulls to the look
night turret
Seeing her for the first time was... "Yeah Super Giants are bringing in the BIG GUNS now..."
queen crag
0-0
novel wasp
oH GOD
I just glitched out and pushed enemies out of position
its now outside of the wall
queen crag
was the enemy you glitched out of bounds by chance a medusa head?
novel wasp
no
queen crag
cause that happened to me a couple days ago
novel wasp
it was in satyr's hole
queen crag
oof
warm dove
have you ever got the stupid bug ever?
hades stand still
but his skill still cast
like no idea where the f that come from
night turret
Is he T-posing?
candid pike
soo is it just me or anyone else talks to Hypnos when they die?
night turret
Only then I realise that I didn't die that way before.
candid pike
there should be achievement in full release "get killed in every possible way"
novel wasp
I want me some crutching blades
void vigil
bit late, but @night turret keep it clean, please
summer forge
for a second I completely forgot that today was wednesday
novel wasp
you know what would it be cool
chaos egg gives you the bonus of lessen 1 round of curse duration
instead of giving you better boons
novel wasp
strike day 1 would just be too good but ok
void vigil
lol yes. chaos pls
Iāve had runs where they just didnāt show up, no light of ixion as well
candid pike
after i have unlocked all weapons and mirror upgrades keys are useless right?
just for for trading
novel wasp
pretty much
brave thicket
keys give a fated authority, so not completely useless
night turret
oh, no it's the mods
brave thicket
moderators or modifications?
brazen isle
Well they give Fated Authority, but you have to purchase the upgrade for it
Plus you can trade five in to the broker for... nectar I believe
night turret
Well given that I completely forgot to hide the evidence, it's the moderators.
brazen isle
Mods are here, hide the contraband
candid pike
if Charon gets new model (like Nyx got) how do you think he would look?
brave thicket
a really old looking man
brazen isle
Decrepit at the very least
night turret
Betting on "Really sick of your stuff"
brazen isle
Spoilers for recent trailer but ||I think they showed a shadow thatās likely Charon, considering his groans during it||
candid pike
there is a trailer? xD
brisk trail
same question here
brazen isle
That came out w the nighty night update
Lemme grab it
And if Iām wrong I blame insomnia
https://youtu.be/YihXPvZHcTQ here, at 1:10
brazen isle
I know that āhaaaaaauuugggghhhā when I hear it, thatās the boatman himself
novel wasp
Okay I kinda wish that your ares dash also affected by your hunting blades
it would be funny as hell to see a million mini blade rift chases your enemies too
brazen isle
Turn the arena into a blender
candid pike
did they buff the range of blade rift? it looks bigger than before
brazen isle
Who wants shade smoothies
novel wasp
I specifically get a ares dash (white too) just to see if this happens
i was disappointed
abstract fable
@stray jay I think thereās some plant life in the asphodel fountain chamber
novel wasp
hunting blades despite OP af in most situation but it has one severe weakness
that is because they dont know what their priorities are and they just chase a random low health target rather than a big health target when facing multiple enemies
misty viper
Hi there, I am unable to talk in the hades- feedback channel and I am unable to find why
I read in the old feedback channel that a readme is somewhere but I am unable to find it
void vigil
hey, please read the pins in #hades-feedback for instructions on how to post there
misty viper
oh thank you
cobalt cargo
So uhhh, after this update the game keeps kicking me out before it finishes loading, anyone else got the same issue?
void vigil
@cobalt cargo try reposting this in #h1-tech-support?
cobalt cargo
Cool, will do
warm palm
Hey guys, is Hades updated both in epic games and steam at the same time?
Cause I downloaded it again after a while but I only see for weapons. Also my save was deleted?
abstract fable
Steam was like 30 minutes after epic for the last update but they should be the same now
warm palm
I have the upgraded model of Nyx but no fists
floral belfry
die once
warm palm
do you unlock those later in the game maybe?
floral belfry
most issues with the game are "solved" by intentionally dying a bunch of times
(or winning but it's not very time efficient to win to get things to trigger)
void vigil
you need to do a run and come back in order to see the new weapon
noble sage
^
quiet iron
Where do I report a bug?
brisk trail
F10
low leaf
sO
On spawn with blade i get posiedon who has 1 legendary booon for Huge Catch. Is that normal?
Do i now have a fishing run? lol
vast dagger
yeah (roughly) the first time you play the new update youll get that event
low leaf
hmm it was on my 4th run but okay
candid pike
i always get baited when im fishing
i want to get perfect catch but then i realise the fish wasnt there yet xD
brisk trail
This game has top tier waifu material
fluid jacinth
ikr bouldy
floral belfry
yeah bouldy got me like damn
worthy egret
verbal lotus
How do you unlock the fishing
brisk trail
purchase the rod from contractor for 1 diamond
verbal lotus
aight I haven't unlocked the option yet š
remote lily
dapper flume
Wow... first crash after š¦
Feels bad man. Entered the elite boss room in the tunnel and poof black screen RIP
Interesting though, it said my progress couldn't' be synced..updated my attempts..but then loaded me back into the run.
midnight bay
Bouldy š³
slender zodiac
Is it me or Arthurs Aspect is super OP?
dark cradle
Too bad it isn't Arthur from RDR2 and Zag can't walk everywhere tipping his hat and calling NPC's 'mister' or 'ma'am'.
novel wasp
Bouldy dummy thicc
echo wolf
void vigil
Logan Cunningham!
you can see the credits through the main menu iirc, the voices are there as well
chilly maple
west chasm
Logan Smartpork is a really impressive voice actor
He can convey so many different emotions and personalities with ease
It's odd to see a voice actor take on so many roles within a single piece, let alone work on every game a company has ever done
And is it just me, or does his face not fit with the voice of Hades? I dunno i just think it's astonishing
mellow vessel
He does Achilles AND Asterius??!
barren rune
i can see theseus and poseidon sharing a va definitely not asterius though
wild
oh, i slipped up and said a swear, got profanity checked by the bot
worthy egret
also charon apparently
west chasm
My favorite lines
barren rune
a wordsmith
worthy egret
"aight logan we're gonna need you to make a few gurgles and growls sorta like uh the noise you make when its monday morning and the coffeee machine is occupied?"
"ghrrrhrhhhhrnnnhnhn"
"perfect"
west chasm
I loved that time Charon talked about the time he met Obama
mellow vessel
Poseidon/Narrator/Hades/Achilles/Asterius/Charon all one person
worthy egret
he's achilles?
west chasm
Yeah
worthy egret
waht
mellow vessel
@worthy egret maybe they just hung out at the coffee machine and emptied it out right before he arrived... and then recorded him candid š
worthy egret
i mean now that i know i can kinda see it but
"GET THE RECORDING STUFF HE'S DOING THE THING AGAIN"
mellow vessel
That list is kinda funny because I can take steps from each character to another and go āyeah I could see how thatās the same personā but not the group as a whole
brazen isle
This is why I love voice actors
āOk Iām gonna need you to make a few grunts and groans into the microphoneā
I mean itās more complex than that but still
Wizardry
worthy egret
okay but can i just say
coming from transistor
meeting some va's again was like meeting an old friend
mellow vessel
Poseidon has probably the most of my favorite lines in the game
worthy egret
(pun on Old Friends unintended)
vast junco
cue "old friends" playing
mellow vessel
āYou deign to thusly spurn my offeringsā just. Chefās kiss
worthy egret
i love poseidon he sounds like the fun weird uncle
mellow vessel
Totally
worthy egret
can i also say
i really liked zag's voice right off the bat
so i looked the va up and
well
i did not expect that.
xD
vast junco
darren talking to skeleton darren in the courtyard
worthy egret
SKELETON DARREN
vast junco
he just has to get in touch with his inner skeleton before recording any skelly lines
brazen isle
Remove his meat sack and get into character
vast junco
exactly
mellow vessel
I feel like itās not so hard for me to accept it no matter who voiced skelly, because heās like... doing a voice. Whereas something like Achilles and Asterius they both just sound like legit people talking very differently, itās harder to imagine one person doing both
vast junco
i do get what you mean. skelly has a lot of intentional caricature energy while asterius or achilles are very much more so... a genuine character package where their voices sound entirely natural to them, big ups and huge testament to logan's effective range
not that there isn't a place for characters like skelly though
we all love skelly
mellow vessel
Oh yeah I love skelly, itās not a criticism
I just meant itās easier to imagine someone doing that voice even though they normally sound completely different
vast junco
definitely yeah
iron badge
i just fought tiny vermin for the first time...
what the hades was that cursed abomination
timber topaz
So, I only just realized that if you fight it enough times, the 'Lernean Bone Hydra' literally has its name change to 'Lernie the Bone Hydra' at the top.
Which, like...
What a game, guys.
iron badge
i feel like that happens if you get the line where zag calls it lernie/lenny
timber topaz
I mean, yeah, but I didn't realize it actually changed the name on the boss health bar
stiff trellis
Concept
Hades except Sisyphus is suddenly kronk, and zagreus is the only one who notices the difference
Then, after a while, demeter becomes yzma
Then the next time you die, you find a llama next to the music stand
brave zinc
I can't seem to fish in the temple waters for some reason
I wish I could screenshot the bug but I can't
brave zinc
dam uhhh
I already went past the point where it happened, I wish I knew this when it happened
oh well
if I find it again I'll post it
stiff trellis
oh well
cyan cloud
before spending money on early access, I was curious whether the story is complete or not (very new to this all)
livid cargo
cyan cloud
ooh, cool cool
worthy egret
lernie the bone hydra
devout raptor
Hey I have a question the game progress is saved in the cloud or on the pc?
tardy apex
forest slate
where are the fists?
void vigil
you might need to do a run and come back to see them if this is your first time playing the patch
amber garden
The sword special shooting towards the mouse cursor makes me so happy.
brazen isle
@tardy apex if you've ever wanted to punch hades directly in the face, then yes!
well its also worth checking out the new mirror update. and Nyx's beautiful new portrait and model. but mostly to punch people in the face.
brisk trail
Am I missing something? I thought Nova was still radial.
worthy egret
Isn't Hades like
much taller than Zagreus
so if we wanted to punch him in the face
we'd punch like
idk
normal wraith
I am very curious as to why exactly zag is so small in comparison and if that's just the basic size of the olympions. If it is just their basic size, the image of artemis's reactions|| to being given nector|| just got freaking hilarious. It'd be like those videos of elephants freaking out about a mouse.
worthy egret
i think maybe
the first generation olympians are that huge?
i cant imagine artemis being that tall
normal wraith
I mean if she was zag size that'd be less funny but if she was the full 15 tall hades is, that'd be really funny.
worthy egret
then again idk what gods count into that so i might have just said bs
i can imagine like
brave zinc
For anyone that's considering using poseidon's attack on the fists weapon, you bettter know what you're doing because if you are not bouncing them off the wall you are doing no damage.
normal wraith
Hera as well.
normal wraith
Though maybe it's a Zag's ||mortal blood ||that has him being that small. I know he doesn't have a lot of it but it'd fit for why being being directly related to Hades he's a 3rd of his size.
worthy egret
can you imagine an old Zag thats just as tall as Hades?
terrifying
booming dark voice FISHIEEES HERE FISHIES
normal wraith
I mean for him it'd be more like a multi-tone cry from a blood twister probably.
mellow vessel
Lol they just never stop growing
worthy egret
one day Thanatos is just not taller anymore and he has an existential crisis
normal wraith
It may also just simply have something to do with divine strength.
dark cradle
Well, thematically it makes sense as well. The Titans gave birth to the Gods, which were smaller and stronger, and the Gods gave way to the Demigods, which are even smaller and even stronger.
normal wraith
I mean, without the mirror or boons zag wouldn't be able to beat redacted in a 1 on 1 fight like he is.
Maybe Meg.
mellow vessel
Rather than worrying about the eventual heat death of the universe, people of this world worry about eventually the entire space being taken up by enormous gods
My husband did it, not on hell mode though
No heat
Oh wait boons yes
worthy egret
@normal wraith ||mortal blood? from who?||
mellow vessel
No mirror though
sick laurel
HEY GUYS CRAZY IDEA
What would peoples opinions be on having skins in the games for the gods. For example different skins for the Greek gods Roman counter parts like a Neptune skin for Poseidon. This was a random Idea i had and wanted to know if people would like it or not/is it a good idea
normal wraith
Though it definitely feels like based on certain clues that Zag and lines mentioned in the fight against redacted, that he's fighting with a hand behind his back because he isn't truly accessing his divine power unless he's mortally wounded.
worthy egret
is that a challenge,,,, watch me beat redacted without mirror or boo- id die
i mean theres also the fact that god mode is a thing
normal wraith
I mean, try beating him without the mirror, centaur hearts, hammers, titan blood upgrades, or boons.
worthy egret
and skelly spoke of it like a very real thing even if i guess that was a "hey you can use that" type of nod
normal wraith
Just a straight, one on one base zag vs. redacted.
That would be basically impossible.
mellow vessel
Honestly itās the 1 dash that makes it hardest
worthy egret
galaxy brain: from redacteds POV the fight is like the tiny vermin fight
normal wraith
||One of Zag's grandparents is mortal on his mom's side. I'm actually hoping they're the shade in the stadium that's rooting for you.||
worthy egret
also zag replied to skelly talking about the godmode like he knows about it so i guess zag cann like has a god mode
normal wraith
I mean Zag in several lines of dialog makes it very obvious he does not believe in his own divine power.
worthy egret
||wait im looking at it and like, hades' parents are titans, and persephone's parents are demeter and zeus? or zeus and rhea, a titan?|| spoilsies i supposeth
normal wraith
||Demeter and a mortal for persephone.||
Anyway I doubt it'll come up in the game.
worthy egret
||o h is that like a thing in the game or just ageneral mythology thing?||
normal wraith
I'd love for you to be able to edit your runs with some of Zag's power instead of just relying on the Olympians. Though that may be too redundant with mirror in place.
||No idea on the mythology part, but it's how it is in the game.||
worthy egret
||oh!! makes sense. cause wikipedia said something else||
normal wraith
Then again, I'd also love to see you be able to buy nyx boons with darkness in the middle of your run.
worthy egret
i wonder what boons of cthonic gods would be like
an alternate universe where a godchild is trying to get from olympus to the underworld and the cthonic gods are assisting them
xD
normal wraith
Well in this case I could imagine there'd be a chance of after so and so nectors to nyx she starts setting up rooms where she can appear to help him. Obviously she can't be caught directly doing it, so she just concentrates the darkness he's already collected into stealth related powers. Like +100% damage on enemies that haven't noticed you yet and blinding attacks on enemies.
worthy egret
.
headcanon that when Nyx is mad at Hades she shrouds an item he's looking for
then ages after he needed it and somehow solved the issue without it, he finds it on the spot he's looked at a thousand times
normal wraith
I MEAN, she does have the power and Hades is clearly patient as hell with family.
normal wraith
Well, Hades wouldn't allow that in front of shades.
He has to maintain an appearance.
But imagine walking by a door and hearing it.
worthy egret
more underworld stuff?
dusa painting meg's nails and meg putting ribbons on dusa's snakes
normal wraith
I mean, I won't lie I see Zag doing that kind of thing first.
Not the nails but the ribbons.
worthy egret
see my brain kinda failed and bundled things together and all i saw was Zag with pink ribbons in his hair.
....who am i kidding
he would wear that
alpine stratus
they should all wear ribbons
normal wraith
I feel like... Dusa could probably convince him into that. He seems like the type of guy who'd relive a panic at the disco song.
alpine stratus
pink to match the accents on his boxing gloves :0
worthy egret
Meg and Than: gossiping about Zag
Zag, kicking the door in: I CHIME IN WITH HAVEN'T YOU EVER HEARD OF CLOSING THE GO-
zag with malphon zag aspect, pink ribbons and meg's earring
when youre escaping out of hell but you gotta look cute
brazen isle
You canāt fight your dad if you aināt cute
mellow vessel
āFeeling cute, might escape the underworld laterā
normal wraith
Honestly, I wouldn't be against the idea of him being able to find outfits he could purchase. Nothing TOO far outside of his time, though I could think of some cool greekified looks based on different gods and some modern pop stars.