The special is good for oneshotting squishy enemies like pests and witches
#h1-discussion
stiff trellis
wind sinew
Maybe the charge up upgrade doesn't work with multi hit aspect idk
stiff trellis
As well as a respectable range for out of reach enemies
wind sinew
It wasn't even breaking through armour lol
stiff trellis
It be like that sometimes
jade grove
That may be bugged?
wind sinew
I ended up using normal attack even though all my upgrades were in my special
jade grove
hit ye f10 button and hope
stiff trellis
Honestly
The new boon look makes sense to seem out of place
Think about where they came from
stiff trellis
They come from literally the opposite of the underworld
knotty epoch
I don't mind either way. I just really like that they stopped it from spinning so much
stiff trellis
I love the way they look like they're being dripped down from above
knotty epoch
I like that it feels like a can with a string attached. Not exactly like the visual, but purpose-wise
stiff trellis
Giving more of a feeling of being gifts from the gods
knotty epoch
Other than that though, it's mostly whatever imo
stiff trellis
That's a really funny image actually
floral belfry
would be cool if you had the option to deny boons and get small incremental bonuses to self
like a defiance of the gods
jade grove
LOL can telephone from the gods
knotty epoch
I mean that's what it is, right?
stiff trellis
Voice mail from the gods - Featuring Zagreus
floral belfry
sexting with aphrodite
floral belfry
but who was the OTHER holy archer zag was talking about?
floral belfry
when you first meet artemis he says artemis is the only holy archer he knows but then corrects himself
I was just making a tongue-in cheek joke about drama
stiff trellis
Chiron, perhaps?
Waot
Odysseus
There's a few of them that he might be talking about
idle lily
apologies if i've missed the train so to speak
oh wait, i just realised my question belongs in #h1-story-discussion
fallen orchid
Does anyone know the command to sumbit a bug report in game?
floral belfry
F10
proper zodiac
Man it makes me really happy to see the updates and what was and wasnt inspired by community
fallen orchid
thank you
indigo verge
I hate stubborn defiance
craggy frost
Dusa is still best girl in my eyes
hasty thicket
wut
blissful monolith
fortunately she's not our mum, just Zagreus' 😛
craggy frost
but i get what you mean there
hasty thicket
meg was obviously the best girl before nyx redesign
craggy frost
Dusa was far cuter than Meg and I'm sad that her relationship didn't go in the direction I was hoping
though I am perfectly understanding as to why they chose the path they did with her
brisk mulch
dusa is cuter yes but the relationship with meg is a lot more fulfilling imo
nimble ocean
it was quite obvious and logical
brisk mulch
and yeah it was pretty expected that the relationship with dusa wouldnt go anywhere
craggy frost
i know, still a bit disappointing
hasty thicket
dusa acts like a child
i had no idea people liked her in the sort of "best girl" thing
kinda gross
but tbf i haven't explored her storyline that much
nimble ocean
to think of it, there it's not that big difference between true friendship and romantic love
craggy frost
No? She's just shy. I would act the same way she does if someone started giving me gifts out of nowhere.
blissful monolith
Dusa is nice but doesn't have much going for her in terms of depth as far as I've seen
hasty thicket
she's extremely immature
brisk mulch
she's a floating sphere of loveliness
craggy frost
love transcends shape
brisk mulch
but i think she has depth to her, with where she came from, her relations to other gorgons and how she got the job at the house and whatnot
thats just my two cents
craggy frost
agreement
narrow horizon
Made it to hades
have 1 HP and no death denials
RIP
(I did get to buy the diamond at the shop though)
warm elbow
Just dodge bro
blissful monolith
I don't think I've ever had the money to buy blood/diamonds from the shop in Styx lol
warm elbow
I have only bought diamonds, blood is too expensive
floral belfry
I bought heart and pom
cus I wanted to win not stockpile meta resource
first time getting that far
jade grove
uh, wait, what? Dusa doesn't act like a child
narrow horizon
I knew I was not going to get past the final boss So I focused on gathering money so I could get the dimond and do better on my next run
queen slate
boo to achilles hector is the real hero
cedar rapids
i can't unlock twin fist, just fiished a run.. someone knows why?
livid cargo
You unlock railgun last now
floral belfry
ok but how
queen slate
an idea maybe its already been said - Within the underworld you have countless souls dead people right, maybe have a scene where as we are going though the levels all of a sudden we are faced with a load of shades battling each other, Like the souls of the dead some of them anyway are locked away in an endless battle of killing each other, until we the hero shows up and ends the fight or something.
like take some famous battles and have it play out maybe it would be to much work
it could be a random event
brisk trail
@near canopy I assume by room you mean channel?
near canopy
Yeah
brisk trail
could maybe change it to that thought you meant a room ingame at first lol
uneven copper
anyone else think that the new alternate mirror of darkness upgrades are buy and large...superior to the og?
I'm thinking through my playstyles while looking at them and thinking what is useful and it seems like all the new stuff is better
or almost better
subtle rampart
i cant find the gauntlets
like the space is empty
does anyone else have this bug?
uneven copper
^same
dire jewel
I like some of them better, but I dont think they're strictly better.
uneven copper
fair. I do think maye 50% of them are geared towards "end game" players though
blissful monolith
The space was empty for me too post-patch until I did a run and came back to the House
uneven copper
so maybe thats why they appear better in some cases
ok i ve been considering trying to just do a run
WHOA the boon graphics are dramatically different
holy crap
Was that a complaint for people? Too hyper realistic or something?
tiny fiber
yeah, the new boons seemed really strange to me the efirst time I played. I think I liked the old ones better
uneven copper
I like the flame blob thing and pillar of light
but it definitely upped the cartoon ness.
although, idk...kinda fits the look of the game more in some ways
but feels like Civ 6 vs Civ 5
subtle rampart
maybe they're trying to lower the graphics for other platforms
uneven copper
hmmm. true. they mentioned performance upgrades for the backend next
subtle rampart
also i died and the gauntlets appeared
lofty wolf
yeah, for the NEXT update
i think previous boon icon matched other icons in the game more than current one
subtle rampart
also looked better in general
uneven copper
i think what i liked about the old boons is they matched the art of the gods
now they match the art of the game
but the character art was always separate from the "game" art
frail hound
I dislike the fact that they are so tiny now and the old ones were definetly easier to identify at a glance because of that, but I also think the new ones look awesome - so it really is mixed feelings for me
uneven copper
meh. Not a huge issue. First thing you see is what you'll liek anyhow. But i do agree with the above point on size...especially with colored flame backdrop I can't hardly see what icon is shown because its washed out
is there a way to lessen the autoassist?
I just tracked a mob clear across the screen without moving.
primal whale
I would prefer the boon symbols to be a tad bit larger than they are now, and have a small spacing between the icon and the color ring
But the glowing color they added has grown on me
wraith cipher
the patch today made the boons huge
wraith cipher
achievements have not been implemented yet
rocky crater
Oh my gooood doom on attack with the gauntlets and +4 dashes
It get's all "fist of the North Star" and I love it
Nani...?!?
atomic orbit
Ora ora ora ora ora
stoic quail
Can anyone tell me what nyx says on the main menu the first time you launch the game after update? I clicked through it not expecting a voice line and now it won't play again
subtle rampart
i would like the new wep if the attack doesnt lock you in place to dash
its the only one that does it
novel wasp
You can dash cancel
left tartan
damn i love the aspect of arthur
subtle rampart
well not fast enough for what im use to
subtle rampart
thats not my playstyle
left tartan
fair enough
wraith grove
don't know if it's been discussed at all
but the former Achilles aspect for the spear was changed to 'Hades Aspect'
but the voice line is still the same
left tartan
just got out with the aspect of talos
ooh that reminds me
there should be a fishing spot at the surface in that area of water hades is looking out on when you go out to fight him
seems too perfect
even if all you catch is a trout or something
brazen python
hey @zealous timber dunno who to tell just wanted to let you guys know that in asphodel a fishing point may spawn behind the chamber selection/boat things. (caught it miraculously btw but if i wasnt hyper vigiliant upon arrival, i woulda missed it entirely) have a great day ^_^ love the game!
zealous timber
Hey there -- please use F10 to report these issues from within the game. It allows us diagnose and fix issues that are bugs.
Glad you are enjoying the game!
carmine fog
are there plans for additional bosses in elysium/asphodel at the moment that we know of?
i just realized it's kind of strange that we have multiple in tartarus but not those two and didn't know what the content road map looked like
frozen sigil
is there a technical cap to dodge chance?
Or are additional boons with dodge chance not additive?
rigid knoll
The spear with flurry jab is soooo good
brisk trail
I once had it, with old Zagreus Aspect (+10 base damage to the spear's poke) and Black Out, dealing 100 damage per poke.
Absolutely deleting everything in Festive Fog.
marsh jackal
after rerolling styx chambers into three demeter boons, buying one demeter & one dionysus boon and running into one demeter, one other dionysus boon I finally got the double duo for festive fog
slow rose
So what's everyone's favorite fist upgrade?
brisk trail
Long Knuckle.
quaint beacon
can anyone help me, I can't figure out why after the new update i don't have the new weapon
I have every other one unlocked
and have restarted the game and my computer
slow rose
Did you do a run after the update?
quaint beacon
yep
slow rose
Do another?
quaint beacon
does it matter if I die or exit the run?
slow rose
I don't think so but I made a full one just in case
Maybe you also need guan yu. but I think that's just for excalibur
quaint beacon
its weird because the rest of the update seems to have worked
nyx looks different and mirror has all the new abilities
just the weapons didn't take
marsh jackal
for me it's long knuckle and the special that makes you teleport
quaint beacon
or the arthur aspect
brisk trail
Rush Kick?
marsh jackal
i think rush kick
slow rose
Do you have all the other aspects unlocked?
void dock
Hey what do I need to do to finally be able to give Thanatos some ambrosia?
marsh jackal
arthur aspect is rng on return
slow rose
Also yeah, rush kick is my fav too. Best attack animation
quaint beacon
for the sword no
i'm more interested in the new weapon though
i guess I'll try another run untill i die
and check again
pliant dagger
@void dock there's a certain dialogue that will happen with him after you beat in the competition
There's no exact number until it happens you just gotta keep running into him
pliant dagger
Just gotta keep at it ✊ 😔
brittle hamlet
could have sworn I heard the fish ping after the final boss fight, but alas, I don't think that's currently a thing
pliant dagger
I had it happen once but I think? It was during my very first clear of the final boss (or maybe not, I don't quite remember but it has happened)
Hasn't happened since though
rigid knoll
When I enter ||The temple of styx|| can I go back to the first area?
timber quartz
Two ||!
rigid knoll
Fixed! Don't know how to use it. lol
blissful monolith
If by "the first area" you mean the shop then yes
you go back after each tunnel is done
knotty epoch
You go back to the shop after every path, and you can keep entering paths after getting what you need as long as you don't talk to the gatekeeper
narrow hemlock
devs please please when you add weapon aspects that require talking to npcs to unlock, allow that to take priority over story content. I've done nine runs since the update, and either nyx is gone, or when she's there i can't speak with her because someone else is already there ): i just want excalibur, im tired
stuck comet
The bow is decievingly op
You can just run around pelting things and occasionally running up for a shotgun attack to instakill them
Also it looks good
west canyon
is the 'deception' that you can do that over time and be ok? cause my reaction every time is pretty much 'I could do this faster and better with another weapon'
brisk trail
Try Artemis with Aspect of Zagreus.
Deadly Strike, Hunter Dash, lots and lots and lots of dash Power Shots.
west canyon
I don't want to run around pelting things, I'd rather just kill them dead from the jump
brisk trail
🤷
stuck comet
I love the aspect of Chiron+Relentless volley
Shoot em a couple times, then send an undodgable volley of death at them
gray sun
Yeah, I love it with Demeter special, since each special then procs a 10 stack burst
gray sun
Nice
stuck comet
BoomboomboomboomFROZEN
west canyon
with rolling knuck and dashing it was very easy to hit 10
gray sun
Works really well with Aphrodite on fist special/bow attack, cause then you get privileged status bonus
civic prism
I also like stacking Crit with deadly strike and Zag aspect
stuck comet
I've yet to get crit, but I love Zues' stuff for the bow
civic prism
Pretty much the only way I play aside from Athena + Zeus aspect shield
Looking forward to getting Excalibur though, maybe I'll finally have a hard hitting melee build that doesn't rely on Athena to beat the final boss
stuck comet
What even Excalibur .-.
mild needle
holy sword
stuck comet
Where do you get it, though?
mild needle
you need to unlock sword aspect
stuck comet
huh
stuck comet
Oh, I just got the game yesterday, I just learned about god mode so I might do that in a hot second so that I can get past the story
coarse junco
I'm getting a lot of backlog information when i try to talk to nyx. stuff like her talk with meg and thanatos
stuck comet
And THEN get all the cool stuff
west canyon
yeesh, your getting a lot of foreknowledge then
coarse junco
Past 3 runs got nothing but character interaction (which was nice)
stuck comet
Imma do that, brb
west canyon
I kinda recommend just playing and doing things and not chasing specifics down
stuck comet
HOLY CRAP
Artemis's fully charged call is broken
mild needle
i always aim to finish boss with it
super dramatic special ultimate
is how i call it
stuck comet
Yeah, if you wanna chunk off half their health
west canyon
demeter legendary is another choice way to finish bosses
dry wagon
I accidently told hermes to shut up (basically skip dialogue) anyway to turn it back on?
proud orbit
You'll just have to wait for a while til they start again
dry wagon
gotcha thanks
mild needle
stoic quail
Loving all this feedback about rerolling giving the same boon. Is this going to be another classic case of making something less random to make it feel more random? 😆
rustic imp
Man idk why but it feels like I get wayyy more common boons now even though I havent changed that mirror aspect
west canyon
lowkey same I've seen way more first few boons be all grey compared to before I think/feel
later on enough other things can alter those chances but like 5-6 runs of just grey unless I use a keepsake, thread, or special thingy
mild needle
they nerf the chances of higher rarity boons
proud orbit
The bonus from the mirror is lesser now
cerulean iris
yeah, it went from 50/25% max to 40/20%
rustic imp
I feel like they made a lot of unnecessary changes this patch
proud orbit
Unnecessary why
If the bonuses were too high they wouldn't be competitive with the alternate talents
Unless they made those too powerful
Also makes yarn, keepsakes and chaos rarity worth more
devout furnace
anyone got patch notes for the hotfix?
plush dagger
Is anyone having trouble launching the game after the "The Nighty Night Update"? I can't even play it and I want to very badly
stuck comet
Well, my game suddenly started lagging occasionally. I would say it's a memory leak, but it's just spasms, not an escalating lag...
So that's my problem.
plush dagger
My game just literally won't launch
I click "Play," my cursor disappears for a moment, then it goes back to nothing
I've already reinstalled the game to no avail and still nothing
knotty epoch
Does anyone else's steam banner show the Nyx artwork but still say the long winter update
proud orbit
documents/saved games/hades
solar dirge
im trying to transfer saved games and i cant transfer a whole folder. don i send all the files over individually?
solar dirge
actually nevermind i think i only need to send one file, and sending the other ones would be redundant
lavish reef
so i got the poseidon fishing buff once, how do you get it more?
spring radish
hey y'all
brisk trail
ive got really bad luck getting Flying Cutter and a Chaos Defiance boon, is there anything i should know about trying to get them (already have +legendary chance)
spring radish
how's the new update? Haven't gotten a chance to play it yet
hidden geode
It’s pretty good
spring radish
better than the Long Winter?
hidden geode
I’m not sure I like it as much as Long Winter, but I’ll withhold my full judgment until after all the follow up patches are done
The new weapon has been getting pretty mixed responses
I’d try it out for yourself
brisk trail
I love Malphon and don't care much for the spear.
Also: More Nyx content rather than the evil stepmother from Cinderella.
low venture
How exactly higher percentage of duo boons work
Would i need just one of each required boons
And it will show up
Or i still need all requirements to get duo but chance of it popping up is higher
lusty stump
The discussion all over the place. Some on the fence of fists being quite powerful and fun, for some it's meh and doesn't work for them on high heat.
In my genuine opinion, I think it again boils down to preference. Like say with bow. Some like it or dislike it.
low venture
Ah
That
I think
Balance point should be 40 heat runs
And from there devs should see and balance the weapon to how they perform on them
night turret
brisk trail
Wow, Ma'Sair, how you gonna do me dirty like that?
low venture
Since its the way game is suposed to be played in my opinion
Otherwise there would be no need for it and then if weapons are good on hell itself difficulty they good on other runs as well
night turret
Yes?
low venture
Everyone happy
knotty epoch
what's wrong with zeus
brisk trail
Yeah.
night turret
wait a bit
night turret
https://prnt.sc/rcxu5u this convo
brisk trail
low venture
We dont talk to this bafook
night turret
It's the best thing i witnessed in this game, and it's the worst at the same time.
Truly blursed.
brisk trail
Distilled
low venture
So uhh anyone knows “How exactly higher percentage of duo boons work”?
cinder lichen
Was King Arthur a real guy? I thought he was a fable. Or am I thinking of the knights of the round table?
low venture
This game is about myths
knotty epoch
No, he's (probably) not real
night turret
...Every time someone post Ron emote I dont see the shopkeep from Pyre, I see weird cyclops-thing burping in shock.
low venture
Naturally
cinder lichen
I mean, I know the game's about myths, but Guan Yu isn't one.
night turret
Some people can surpass Myths I guess?
lusty stump
Basically the higher the duo boon chance, the more likely you can get it once you have all needed god boons for the duo
cinder lichen
knotty epoch
Guan Yu is both myth and not
low venture
Basically the higher the duo boon chance, the more likely you can get it once you have all needed god boons for the duo
@lusty stump ah thank you so its useless got it
lusty stump
Wouldn't really say that with the new update decreasing the legendary/duo boon drop chance
low venture
I get duos when all required boons there anyway why would one trade epic boon dmg for that
brisk trail
It's the flip to the Rare boost.
10% more golden laurels is the opposite to the Epic boost.
lusty stump
Oh yeah that ^.
That one increases the chance of boon, hammer and pom power showing up instead of keys, gems, money.
cinder lichen
pft, oh. So uh, what I basically read, King Arthur's existence is...up for debate.
brisk trail
That one I don't like.
low venture
cinder lichen
He might've existed, but whoever he might've been, his feats are said to be most impressive, if a little embellished.
Maybe.
Is there a god of ambiguity and if so can I punch them in the face for existing?
low venture
Zeus
cinder lichen
Is he actually
cinder lichen
low venture
He acts that way for sure
But pn the other hand almost all olympians do in myths
Athena hates if any mortal better than her in art Zeus cant keep his pants on
As cant posidon
They are all horrible
cinder lichen
Ohp
cinder lichen
Probably triggered a key phrase.
low venture
They are not good be they gods or nah
cinder lichen
Also I thought Athena didn't like mortals who boasted c- oh it was that word, and also the material of the art that said mortal proposed.
Can't argue with the Zeus, Poseidon, and Aphrodite ones
low venture
Hera turned woman who zeus slept with into a cow
And made an entity with uncountable eyes watch it
Forgot his name
cinder lichen
Wasn't it Zeus who turned Io into a cow in an attempt to trick Hera?
cinder lichen
He also appointed that multi-eyed...giant...guy...to watch over the not-at-all-suspicious cow to further that trick
low venture
Yeee
cinder lichen
Meanwhile Hermes does his trickery, frees Io from the eyeguy...I forgot what happens from there.
potent escarp
anybody finished Musician and Muse prophecy?
cinder lichen
Pretty sure Hera's done worse to other women with Zeus though, no doubt about it.
low venture
Cant figure out how to do it
cinder lichen
This all stemmed from me asking if there's a single god, from any mythology, that primarily or secondarily embodied Ambiguity
potent escarp
My last talk was with Nyx about a folder for orpheus and nothing happened.
cinder lichen
Also, same.
I'm kind of assuming it has to do with the reception room but that's my wild guess.
cinder lichen
8
pliant remnant
Is God's Chosen functioning properly? I have it maxed out, but I haven't seen a single gold laurel in Tartarus
cinder lichen
In another world: We would've gotten a Hades game except it's based off Norse mythology
wonder how that'd work.
brave thicket
theoretically, thats impossible if the story remain the same
low venture
Pretty well
Based on that mythology
Story doesn’t have to be the same
Escape from nyfelhume
brave thicket
niflheim
cinder lichen
Could be different, but I was thinking just, mechanicswise, everything is the same.
low venture
Works well
brave thicket
well, possible, but there is technically no labyrinth-like structures in norse myths
there is no ever shifting chambers there
knotty epoch
it'd be pretty simple to retool
You die but just before you get to valhalla there's one last test. You have to survive and find your way there
brave thicket
it does not fit in with the norse myth of valhalla
if you are unworthy, the valkyries will just leave you there for hel, no second chances
cinder lichen
Hm...there is a frost giant who specializes in illusions. Tricked Thor (and co.) into performing feats that would damage his ego, like attempting to take a single swig from a "simple" drink. ||It was linked to the world's ocean.|| You could make something of that, perhaps.
low venture
^
cinder lichen
Utgard-Loki, he was called.
(Also starring: Loki, and Logi)
Totally not confusing at all
brave thicket
Simple, one lives at Utgard while the other doesnt
wraith shore
Hey I know this is minor, but I encountered this interesting glitch where 4 stars were kind of fixed, hovering over the left side of my screen - where if anywhere do I even like report that?
low venture
Also Zagreus isnt even a god
And moreover not son of hades
So
Wed just write something
brave thicket
wait wot
low venture
To fit
Zagreus in original mythology
Is not son of hades
This is for sake of game
brave thicket
he exist not in the original
frail saddle
This isn’t me complaint about the new graphics and it’s not even a real issue. I thought how the game cut and magic transitioned with the “Boss Vanquished” title was so awesome and epic and for some reason, adding the border around the title made it seem off to me. Maybe it’s just an aversion to change but the style was so incredibly on point.
brave thicket
maybe its a preference of the devs?
low venture
So north mythology wold totally work out
frail saddle
Yeah, and I think everything they did was incredible and amazing don’t get me wrong. I just really liked how it was originally. Bleh. It sounds silly reading it back. Ignore me devs if you read this I’m just being weird :>
brave thicket
if they ever read or exist on discord
low venture
They do
low venture
I saw them say dont pass the censorship
We here clean
Also i dont even know how many times i asked this
Is asterios get some fixes when they are in armor
Bull is sooo op in that form
Ruins my heat runs
night turret
Well that would be counterproductive if he was easier
low venture
I mean just part where he avoids pillars and walls
Where before ged crush in them
Makes the bullrush ability unavoidable for me
brave thicket
use deflect
night turret
Let's just drop all that bullrush from Asterius is bullsh... not good before I get mad at it in the middle of the work day.
night turret
Makes you wonder: Is inertia even a thing after you die?
brave thicket
logically the answer is not cuz ghosts and souls are either ethereal or ectoplasmic which enables them to pass through surfaces and not affected by the physical plane anymore
empty turtle
Hey I'm just curious if I'm unlucky or doing something wrong. But the sisphyulus mission is just never appearing for me. I maxed out everybody nectar, beat the game multiple times, have every weapon except king Arthur cause that's also not appearing for me. Sisphyulus hasn't had something new to say me for the past 40 runs. I just dont know what to do anymore.
low venture
Finish final boss couple more times?
Works for me
Like game moves different
Plots
night turret
Did you have a new chamber access?
empty turtle
I'm also wondering about king Arthur weapon. I beat the game 5 times since the update and the dialogue to unlock that weapon
The admin room?
night turret
yes
empty turtle
Yeah got that unlocked
night turret
I wonder is it not starting or is it not progressing, you've seen in-run cutscene with meg and Sys?
empty turtle
Yeah ive seen meg bully sys
But I think it stopped from there for some reason
Or I'm just really unlucky. I just want his item cause its been ages since I've seen that cutscene
night turret
The thing is I know only old route, but. Next thing to do is to pester Meg and Hades.
There must be dailogue about Sys, then probably comes Myx and admin room.
low venture
Damn two runs couldnt get to sisters in time
You go over 30 mobs dont die fast enough
Go below 30 its not a run anymore
What is life
night turret
You may need to run to furies a couple of times, die an lava, to wiggle the meg.
empty turtle
Okay so just keep talking to meg and hades before every run and hope.fornthe best
low venture
Just hit the exclamation marks
empty turtle
Lol I'm doing that. Guess I'm not hitting hard enough
low venture
Ye
And worst part or you get timer to get high heat
Or you have to undo timer and make foes have way too much hp
And attack speed
And they just be unkillable
Waiting for that lucky run
vernal wagon
anyone else find it kinda awkward to do dash special with gloves?
low venture
Yea
vernal wagon
not used to doing space into q
night turret
Well I change buttons based on weapon, so no.
vernal wagon
well the animation itself is fine for me since the recovery is pretty generous
but just aiming my dashes then doing q feels kinda weird
low venture
The hitbox i mean
vernal wagon
oh?
I'm just now playing my first run with it and I'm finishing tartarus so haven't had a good feel for it but it looks big enough for... a melee weapon
knotty epoch
blue, same. I really don't like how space+q works
I don't think the controls on a controller are much better iirc?
vernal wagon
unfortunately they're not
low venture
Its ok tho i think just attacking is bread n butter
Spear special is more useless than that
vernal wagon
they really need to implement what people suggested to have right analog sticks doing the aiming in a controller
low venture
But spear attack french kiss
knotty epoch
Does it auto-aim nearest?
vernal wagon
I believe not?
knotty epoch
I haven't played w controller much
vernal wagon
same
vernal wagon
ok my bad here
low venture
No worries
vernal wagon
as soon as I realised I don't get to move in a direction and aim in another, I just moved straight back to keyboard
low venture
I dont do controller
No aiming breaks me
Yep
++++
It auto aims it on kb and mouse
As well
To the enemy that is closest
empty turtle
I've won 4 games in a row so far with the fist. I personally dont dash q that much. I typically use base attack dash attack and special with the gloves and I've been doing well with it. All 3 gloves have tested well so far. I personally enjoy the demeter gloves the most but I like the zagarus variation ad well. Had a run where I had 60% dodge chance. I wish I had the second wind ability for Hermes to have 100% dodge for like 5 seconds. My favorite god to use with the fist seem to be demeter just cause it's very easy to get the 10 stack explosion or decay to go off if you use chill attack. Zeus and athena are close seconds
I finally got under 20 minutes which was fun. I think gloves are my favorite weapons now. Finally something surpassed my love for the cast bow
brave thicket
question: how to use cast effectively?
low venture
Like little chariots
How do you even deal with them was it planned that you have to just run until they die
Is asterios bullrush should have such auto aim
What about heat rooms being in retrospect useless unless for just a chance to have more god boons
Is that a part of design or unexpected
Way things they wanted to put in turned out
empty turtle
@brave thicket just do an artemis run with the cast sword. You can also do some demeter and hermes stuff to upgrade artemis cast. But typically that's the strongest cast build. You get 6 cast that follow the enemy that crit and you just spam that. Run around and wait for them to fall out and repeat but with cast sword you can press q and make the process go faster
cinder lichen
...Actually, I think both variants of the chariots are supposed to encourage you to lead them into walls
brave thicket
thanks
cinder lichen
I suppose it's supposed to be a way to train you for Asterius's pseudoimpossible charge attack
empty turtle
Like if ya get Artemis cast, the thing that shoots a weaker cast everytime ya cast, and her legendary cast you are golden. Anything else is just gravy like when a cast falls out and does damage or when ya cast chill explosion or cast speed is increased.
low venture
True shot and support fire
knotty epoch
no, dual shot
proud crescent
so uhhh
low venture
Ah that yes
proud crescent
i cant open the codex anymore
i just tried on two of my save files
it just gives me a big red X
low venture
Try on balcony
low venture
Go to tech support
proud crescent
thanks
wheat mango
I still wonder just how much of Hades is inspired by the actual mythology and what was added as extra flair to make a compelling narrative for a game
brave thicket
everything is extra flair except the sisyphus and the titan war and echilles being ded
oh and the lineage and the position of characters
wheat mango
I mean, the Olympians' personalities are definitely something I'd consider "extra flair" since it's pretty hard to find out what a god must've been like
static roost
adamant rail is totally authentic mythology
brave thicket
Phlegethon never flooded asphodel, wish thats the thing
olympian personality is not extra flair
wheat mango
though I do love the subtle touches in each of them. Like how Hermes just speaks really really quickly
brave thicket
except the part that zeus never considered banging zag's gf
night turret
The thing is with how much Greek Myths are inconsistent, I just see it as a bunch of funfics, and SGG just making a Hi-quality one to add to the collection.
wheat mango
I'm relatively unfamiliar with the myths myself I must admit
night turret
They are a good read actually.
wheat mango
I know like, a few
like... Eros and Psyche, for one
(thanks, Overly Sarcastic Productions)
brave thicket
fun fact: greek mythology is a collection of Zeus's dating stories
night turret
Yeah they do good stuff
wheat mango
("Aphrodite. You are a goddess. WHY DON'T YOU JUST KILL HER")
night turret
Yeah if you wondered what was with my name
wheat mango
Was Zeus really that, uh... flirty?
night turret
Zeus keeping it in his pants would cut like 80% of all Myths
wheat mango
blink.
rich yacht
yeah he's actually kind of terrible in the original myths
wheat mango
I was... not aware
brave thicket
at least he never commited incest
low venture
Savior foes
Are so
Stronkkk
I dont even know
Got me exculibrur
What goes well with this fella
night turret
Aphro
low venture
For dmg reduction?
night turret
RUB THAT SWEET SWEER DAMAGE REDUCTION ALL OVER YOURSELF
low venture
Hahahah
brave thicket
god mode
night turret
Seriously tho 40% from sword special, a Supreme Pink Commander gives you Weak AND additional reduction...
No it doesnt, actually
night turret
That's the main thing.
night turret
For the memes.
wheat mango
I enjoy God Mode because of the ability to just turn it on and off whenever I need it. It's helped me trying to learn how the third boss works.
brave thicket
does the dr of godmode add to the dr of excalibur?
night turret
Yes
brave thicket
god mode 80% dr and 40% excalibur dr makes 120% dr hmmm
low venture
Is it 80
brave thicket
yes
wheat mango
I'm pretty sure it's 20.
brave thicket
80 max god mode dr
wheat mango
I've played with God Mode, I'd know ;p
though it does say it gets stronger when you die...
brave thicket
yes
brave thicket
1 for 2%
low venture
Thats still a lot of death
wheat mango
I hope there's some way to reset that or turn it down. 80% damage reduction sounds like way too much even for me!
brisk trail
DR is multi not addi
brave thicket
8
calm laurel
Gtk
low venture
WHAT THE HELL IS THE EXCVANDLIBUR DMG
THATS SO MUCH DMG
WHY OTHER WEAPONS DONT HAVE THIS DMG
AHAHAHAH
ornate gulch
because other weapons MOVE
wheat mango
I move a lot with the Spear, in any case.
I recently unlocked the Rail - that thing's really fun, too.
Bit unwieldy though.
low venture
No me too but thats dash moving
wheat mango
Nah, not even dash strikes
wheat mango
I'm struggling a lot to figure out where each song on the soundtrack plays in the game.
This bothers me for some reason.
low venture
Pfff
Very interesting thing about
The interaction of caliburs slow effect
It slow down the speed of attack and that works well on projectiles for they are object with speed
How it work’s for enemies it slows the wind up of attack
And attack itself executed in three plus minus frames
I guess for reference ill put it to fan work
Weird
lusty coral
every run I pray to god I get the fishing boon at the start lmao
and by god I mean uncle poseidon :^)
primal whale
Doing some relaxing no heat darkness farming and got this fun little build: https://imgur.com/UjU8mUY
primal whale
I was painfully close to 32ing with the bow the other night
||but I had to fight hades with 2 dd||
oops
forgot this was discussion
low venture
Wuus a dd
primal whale
death defiance
primal whale
got the FB to 1/3 on the second phase and couldn't do it
discussion doesn't like the final boss being spoiled
brave thicket
where the lucky tooth
primal whale
I have to double check but I'm pretty sure I chose broken spear point for styx
Honestly, I made a lot of mistakes and shouldn't have even gotten that far
but getting that close is disheartening
primal whale
elysium is probably the hardest thing in high heat
brave thicket
people 31 and 32 heat while im here 3 heat playing
primal whale
well im approaching 400 hours
primal whale
and I didn't bother with heats 21-31
mild needle
just go with shield
low venture
For weapons
mild needle
trash time but you cant really die
low venture
Yee i should try that
cold maple
low venture
I dont do guns
primal whale
and I think eris is the best aspect in the game
low venture
I wish spear with zags aspect was good
I think there was once when they had it with flat dmg
And i all inned it
And it changed to some dumb special range
Shild with ares or dyonis
dire grove
https://imgur.com/a/3domFDa now thats just unfair
mild needle
should have smashed more pots
mild needle
*blyat
low venture
No
mild needle
cyka
brave thicket
Xnehb 60nb?
night turret
ugh, I felt that.
mild needle
night turret
Yeah, Kisses are not cheap nowdays.
mild needle
just replenish all dd at patroclus place
brave thicket
styx is a titan's daughter, rewarded in the titan war for siding with the gods to be turned into a river
how is that even fair
night turret
To think that we were able to have 10 dd's at once... just sad
brave thicket
but the water is also the girl
mild needle
goddamn charon
night turret
Straight cursed right now.
brave thicket
i now ship charon and styx
mild needle
you donthave to ship them, they are always together
low venture
The river?
brave thicket
the river is a girl
brave thicket
neat] trick
night turret
Say No to me, jeez
primal whale
I used zags aspect a lot with spear
primal whale
Did they change it with the recent update?
low venture
No
primal whale
I used it prewinter and during winter update
low venture
They changed it a while back
From increase of dmg to special range and speed
Which
I don’t understand why
Hitting things is what its good at
brave thicket
they changed it for balance
primal whale
I don't like the achilles or hades aspect for it, and if I get explosive and charged skewer, its golden
night turret
It was Special range+speed -> +5dmg to attack -> +damage+speed+range on special
primal whale
or at least 1 hammer to improve special
light cape
hey is there anywhere to suggest stuff besides the suggestions channel?
mental sleet
feedback?
tight jasper
Hi guys. Can you tell me how many times i need to try lyre to make music?
dusky meteor
no exact number of times I think. Just play it every time you come back to the house
zag will get better eventually
tight jasper
ty
brisk trail
Do the Hammer boons for the special of Aegis work with the Chaos Shield?
pliant dagger
I think there's one upgrade that doesn't work with chaos shield
I can't remember the name
light cape
feedback?
@mental sleet ya i guess. it just seems this is the only channel i can type in
pliant dagger
Go to #bot-commands and give yourself the early access role @light cape
brisk trail
Well i'm just curios if Dread Flight specifically works
pliant dagger
Type ?rank early access and you should be good
brisk trail
The one that makes it strike 3 enemies more
pliant dagger
Yeah that one works
brisk trail
Ah aight ty
light cape
@pliant dagger thanks
pliant dagger
Its a little janky at times but you can pick it
foggy kiln
Raise your hand if you've tried to Reload the Fists.
I'm REEEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLLLY hoping that's not just me...
valid citrus
Is there some place here where you can report gameplay bugs?
cause I just massively bugged out the last boss
hexed smelt
To report bugs, please press F10 ingame!
valid citrus
thx
even though the screenshot won't be very helpful
continuous application of charm and bosses don't play well together apparently
hexed smelt
Pressing F10 sends your save and some information about your game alongside the screenshot, and you can also describe the issue
valid citrus
ah nice
humble quarry
hello! Im a new player, i have a small question. Sometimes when i have to choose the next chamber they have a small skull icon next to them, what does that mean? Great game btw im hooked, still havent managed to scape
wraith egret
@humble quarry It means it's an elite room, with harder enmies
night turret
The reward is also upgraded a bit.
humble quarry
@wraith egret @night turret ah I see, thanks. I thought they were rooms i werent before
night turret
Look up in gameplay channel somwhere in pinned messages is sparrow's guide to rooms
wraith egret
After buying the ||orpheus-hades pact|| Orpheus hasn't been back and I haven't been able find Eurydice's room for at least 10 runs. Is there an minimum # of run before they appear again or have I just been super unlucky?
remote turret
the aspect of Arthur is based on what?
wraith egret
@remote turret As in historically? King Arthur and Excalibur
wraith egret
The sentence mentioning a rock prison iirc
calm laurel
sword in the stone
wraith egret
yup
calm laurel
cool
wraith egret
After buying the ||orpheus-hades pact|| Orpheus hasn't been back and I haven't been able find Eurydice's room for at least 10 runs. Is there an minimum # of run before they appear again or have I just been super unlucky?
@wraith egret Nevermind, just found Eurydice's room. Guess I've been unlucky
solemn talon
What happened to sound output device option? 😦
serene spoke
does someone uses poseidon for anything other then sea bounty?
brave thicket
the damage with a full dedicated posi build is pretty good imo
serene spoke
with the new pos legendary i feel like he's falling into the "i need healing so i get you" or farm category
mental sleet
Poseidon knockback build with the spear is super
solemn talon
poiseidon dash işs insanely good imo
mental sleet
^
Poseidon dash is one of the highest damaging dash
and it also do knockback so the area around you will guaranteed to be clear
solemn talon
poseidon dash + hermes +dash = easy win
mental sleet
- Zeus duo boon= memes
brave thicket
how to actually get duos, they're so rare
serene spoke
there's a new talent in the mirror that helps
but most of them need especific boons
brave thicket
ekspensive
serene spoke
like zeus and athena needs phalanx shot+anything zeus
mental sleet
honestly I just bash my head into runs
so I will encounter them sooner or later
its pointless to aim for a certain build in Hades
serene spoke
dio and demeter needs smoke bomb and atack/q/dash enhancer from demeter
the wiki has alll of it
brave thicket
dio?
mental sleet
You thought it was one of the Olympian gods but it was me Dio!
night turret
Never gets old...
serene spoke
never
solemn talon
i also find auto-revenge build very easy
serene spoke
what would you guys think about having tantalus as a interactable npc on the fountains?
void dock
Are there new duo boons?
brave thicket
then we cannot give him nectar
serene spoke
yes!
serene spoke
just drink from the fountain and he says like "i'm really jealous of you y'know?"
warm dove
k kkkkk
brave thicket
but doesnt water disappear near tantalus
void dock
It lowers when he tries to drink it
serene spoke
and he's just sitting over the fountain like "go on, i know you want to..."
with a very tired face
dusk cargo
um so how do i unlock arthur?
serene spoke
it's kinda random
night turret
"Could you not drink all fountains dry? Finding new ones around here is quite bothersome"
"Only if you'll find the man responsible for linking it with door locks"
serene spoke
but you have to interact with nox
night turret
Spoiler channel pinned messages
dusk cargo
oh snap, so i just gotta keep holding sword with default aspect and hope it comes out i guess
serene spoke
oh sorry
dusk cargo
oh wait titan blood ah i see
dusk cargo
there's a feedback channel
but you gotta give yourself the hades role first over in #bot-commands
serene spoke
oh thanks
void vigil
the hades role is just cosmetic! you can find out how to get permission to post in #hades-feedback by reading the pins in that channel.
vale kite
today marks the anniversary of the murder death kill update
floral belfry
@vast dagger I was actually going to mention how the antialiasing on some of the ripples when layered isn't properly transparent so it really stands out
vast dagger
Oh I didn’t really notice any overlap on the ripples, just that the well looks like purple tomato sauce now
vast dagger
Just got off the computer :/
Does anyone have a picture of what the boons looked like at the start of the update btw? I heard they changed them
night turret
@vale kite Have you decided to show mercy to Nyx? Or you just need few extra brushes before releasing hell upon us?
vast dagger
Oh no
night turret
I'm horrified already. please don't
tall trellis
Quick question: is there a way to turn the "damage accumulation" (idk how to call it, i mean that it adds up your damage dealt to an enemy) off? Because I really don't like it and would like to turn it off
vast dagger
I don’t think so
I’d like it turned off too, I like lots of numbers
Also easier to see how much damage attacks do
novel wasp
@night turret turns out you are drinking tantalus' bath water
night turret
GODDAMNIT FADE
novel wasp
Stay cursed. - Chaos 2020
tall trellis
@vast dagger yeah that's what I thought too, I added it to the feedback channel
marsh jackal
what’s your stance on arthur I think it’s overtuned
novel wasp
the slowness of the weapon is a pain and the fact i cant hold it i have to rapidly clicking is extra pain
but the weapon isnt op
the damage is damn thicc
marsh jackal
Why do you think it isn’t op?
lucid sequoia
i can't take Arthur to elysium without screaming at the monitor
they attack way faster than i can ''charge'' my swings
and the dash attack isn't my favorite yknow
novel wasp
at least guanyu if i spec it right i can abuse the ring to fight against the exalted
arthur? there isnt any ways unless you dash strike then you lose your big damage which is what makes the weapon so good in the first place
lucid sequoia
the hammer effect that gives you faster spinning thingy is op
novel wasp
thing is sword doesnt get any fast swing speed unless you are willing to gimp yourself by give up the best part of the sword
cough cough flurry slash
other sword doesnt care maybe nemesis with crit thrust but arthur is definitely getting gimped just to get slightly faster if you picked flurry slash
but again, currently the two swords that are worth to use which are nemesis and arthur, flurry slash is definitely garbage as a whole lol
and i tried getting hermes attack speed increased and boi it makes little difference
ornate merlin
its been like 6 runs and i still cant talk to nyx for the arthur sword fml
deft gull
Idk if it matters, but I had her maxed out on nectar but still had to do a few runs to get the dialogue
pliant raptor
Is anyone having a weird graphical glitch on Zagreus' hand in the main menu?
viscid flicker
i think you also need to run with the sword to get the new sword
lucid sequoia
i didn't and i got it
i just played 3 runs with the twin fists
when i got back she had new dialogue
vast junco
@ornate merlin same lmao. already up to like 7 heat bounties on fists and i'm still trudging through every other narrative nyx thing other than the topic of arthur aspect
i say trudging not because i don't enjoy the other things involving her but because by this point i just want to play with the brand new sword on the block and i can't
torpid pine
Heyo, any idea why I can't post in feedback?
vast dagger
Yep, you’ve gotta have the role for it
torpid pine
oh?
vast dagger
Check the pinned messages in the channel
lucid sequoia
check the pinned messages
vast dagger
I think it’s ?role Early Access
vast dagger
No probs
prime steeple
Oh snap, Nyx is sexy now
lucid sequoia
lol
swift socket
is it weird that I actually liked Nyx more in her simple, robed form than her final, very elaborate all over the place one?
lucid sequoia
understandable
vast dagger
That’s probably just the shock of change
I do think she should be toned down a little though
prime steeple
I kinda liked it from a story aspect that she just looks like any other shade cause she’s under the radar. But as a main character it makes sense
swift socket
I hope its just the shock. But Nyx seemed, character-wise to be very timid and humble. So I thought it fit her to be hidden, and you know "shrouded" in darkness in the shape of her robe.
marsh jackal
I’d like if they kept charons art
vast dagger
I wouldn’t say timid
swift socket
Charon I actually wouldnt mind some more elaborate art for. I mean, his charecter model seem different from his current art.
vast dagger
Definitely humble though
lucid sequoia
i love charon regardless of his looks
vast dagger
I suspect she’s just like that around Zagreus though
lucid sequoia
he is such a deep character
worthy egret
I do get that the robed art fit more her mysteriois aspect but knowing how powerful Nyx is i felt like that design didnt do her justice so now the change made me really happy