#h1-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 729

dark cradle Feb 29, 2020, 11:51 AM

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https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/hades_gamepedia_en/d/dc/Nectar.png?version=28c3be57b2d2e521d6e80342c2dad9eb

latent gulch Feb 29, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Thanks. But that's 128px. Guess there is no bigger reference available?

tribal sapphire Feb 29, 2020, 11:52 AM

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@remote moat Rail with Zeus on Attack and all of the extra lighting, extra strike modifiers is really fun

dark cradle Feb 29, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Nope, I think that's just taken straight from the game files.

latent gulch Feb 29, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Ahh. I see. Well thank you very much then I know I don't need to spend time trying to look for a bigger resolution. ^^

dark cradle Feb 29, 2020, 11:53 AM

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But it'll probably scale up a bit since it seems to have done so in the Discord preview and it looks alright

latent gulch Feb 29, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Yea I'm not sure how that works. In my drawing program scaling up usually creates blurriness.
However in Discord it looks very crisp.

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Then again likely because I work on a like.... 3600 by 3800 pixels canvas....

knotty epoch Feb 29, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Here's one scaled up @latent gulch
https://i.imgur.com/0EO4QAH.png

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latent gulch Feb 29, 2020, 12:10 PM

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@knotty epoch
Thank you. ^^

primal whale Feb 29, 2020, 12:33 PM

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What if it was orange juice the whole time

red coral Feb 29, 2020, 12:38 PM

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I mean, orange juice does taste heavenly

knotty epoch Feb 29, 2020, 12:39 PM

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nectar with pulp

remote moat Feb 29, 2020, 12:43 PM

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||its pee||

primal whale Feb 29, 2020, 12:46 PM

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@remote moat them gods need to hydrate

knotty epoch Feb 29, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Wasn't one of the heroes conceived via golden rain

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(but like actual gold)

remote moat Feb 29, 2020, 12:50 PM

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https://imgur.com/gallery/hSCVj

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Family Trees.

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you had aphrodite " sea foam " = D

deep pivot Feb 29, 2020, 3:16 PM

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@winter flicker please post it on #fan-works once you are done. I’d love to see art of Nectar dusa

west chasm Feb 29, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Imagine being Aphrodite and getting asked how you were born

remote moat Feb 29, 2020, 4:08 PM

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arg its so hard getting legendary boons = /

tawny patio Feb 29, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Just make sure you have all the prerequisites and pray to RNGeus

thorny thorn Feb 29, 2020, 4:12 PM

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ahem

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pray to whichever god you want the legendary of

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cold wraith Feb 29, 2020, 4:13 PM

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i just leave it up to chance, might go for them actively for the last few though

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since there’s some boons i just don’t like that are needed for legendaries

tawny patio Feb 29, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I think I got Athena's legendary the last just because I don't like the prerequisite.

thorny thorn Feb 29, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I had Blinding Flash with Hades spear and triple dash strike with the artemis buffs in one run, it pretty much nuked Hades straight back to styx the moment he turned his back on me

cold wraith Feb 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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oh yeah brilliant riposte is kinda eh

thorny thorn Feb 29, 2020, 5:00 PM

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well I don't know much about normal speedrunning

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but I do know a thing or two about Zagreus Blade + 40% Hermes movespeed, like 20%+ movespeed from the keepsake and 100% movespeed after dashing kinda speedrunning

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nnnyeeeeow

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I killed Theseus first just so I could run circled in the arena with Asterius

delicate arrow Feb 29, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Or go Guan yu

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And one shot everything

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That's one way to speed run :)

latent gulch Feb 29, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@knotty epoch Thank you very much for getting me a scaled up version, it was really helpful as reference for my drawing. ^^

knotty epoch Feb 29, 2020, 5:47 PM

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np :)

latent gulch Feb 29, 2020, 5:47 PM

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^^ Managed to finish it in one day I'm really proud of myself usually I take really long to finish drawings.

deep pivot Feb 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Indeed, thank you dusa

thorny thorn Feb 29, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I only got this game recently

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have supergiant ever nerfed things in the development of this game?

brisk trail Feb 29, 2020, 6:27 PM

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They have, here and there

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But it's mostly been buffs

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Heck, if the nerfs are too harsh, they don't shy from reverting them

opaque nexus Feb 29, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Fingers crossed for throwing knives

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If the last weapon has to be ranged

cold wraith Feb 29, 2020, 6:38 PM

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dagger on a chain

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https://media.tumblr.com/55a5380bcd567bf7f4e3c12acfac9d3a/tumblr_inline_mpg6p4sOwO1qz4rgp.gif or axe chain like this

tawny patio Feb 29, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Pro tip: first few days of a big patch there might be some serious issues which could be exploited for your benefit.

knotty epoch Feb 29, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Remember when guan yu healed on pots? Good times

silent lotus Feb 29, 2020, 6:39 PM

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final weapon, flame thrower

tawny patio Feb 29, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Remember when you can fish in a certain place for 4 times for many gemstones?

knotty epoch Feb 29, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Ah when the 4th area respawned a fish after every path

tawny patio Feb 29, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Yep. That really helped my meta progression

opaque nexus Feb 29, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I hope it’s not as bad as the long winter update was when it dropped

knotty epoch Feb 29, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Can't wait until darkness has a really big exploit on day one

opaque nexus Feb 29, 2020, 6:42 PM

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axe and chain would be a banger but the last pedestal is next to the 2 other ranged weapon

tawny patio Feb 29, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Looks like I might need to farm some Darkness to be prepared...

midnight bay Feb 29, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Throwing axes might be cool

hearty flower Feb 29, 2020, 6:51 PM

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I hope it just gets even more anachronistic after the Rail. Next we get like a tank

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we get a gravity gun from Half Life

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Ooh! Or it's no weapon and we just use our fists. Brawler.

opaque nexus Feb 29, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Lookin like a belmont

cold wraith Feb 29, 2020, 7:09 PM

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knuckle dusters on chains

opaque nexus Feb 29, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Dusa aspect: 25% more dusting

thorny thorn Feb 29, 2020, 7:17 PM

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It's clearly going to be a suit of armor made by Hephaestus that turns Zagreus into ~~Iron Man~~ Bronze God

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which you shoot lasers from, like his daddy does

jade grove Feb 29, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@cold wraith worm on a string aspect

sleek juniper Feb 29, 2020, 7:37 PM

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How cool would it be if you show up to the 3rd boss in extreme measures wearing your own armor.

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I can see theseus saying "Wait! You, you can't do that! This was supposed to be our thing!"

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Also; all for a suit of armor with gauntlets; and special is laser beam out of the visors of the helmet.

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Judging from the myth that demeter would have yielded the final weapon against the titans in the titanomachy; gives cool factors to demeter as well residentzag

narrow inlet Feb 29, 2020, 7:49 PM

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what casts have y'all enjoyed pairing with poseidon sword (other than artemis)?

hardy lake Feb 29, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Hi guys 🙂

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Is anyone from Supergiant team here ? I'd like to say something 🙂

snow rock Feb 29, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I just got athena's legendary boon

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its about time

opaque nexus Feb 29, 2020, 8:23 PM

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They are @hardy lake

willow mural Feb 29, 2020, 8:28 PM

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do you know if there's a reason I can't see the announcements?

shy basin Feb 29, 2020, 8:28 PM

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can't see them either.

unique river Feb 29, 2020, 8:28 PM

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happens sometimes with annoucements

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but here if it still doesn't load https://i.imgur.com/TwC9VYG.png

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willow mural Feb 29, 2020, 8:29 PM

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ohhhh rad!

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definitely want to see that

unique river Feb 29, 2020, 8:29 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/pax2

Twitch

PAX2 - Twitch

PAX EAST 2020 - ALBATROSS THEATRE

▶ Play video

hardy lake Feb 29, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I'd like to apologize ..

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I DL'd the game for free, but tonight, I FU*G BOUGHT IT 😄 190 escapes, nealy bought every item, Isaac is now my second game ^^ Dionysos is my fav' boon giver 😄

weak canyon Feb 29, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I want to work for supergiant, as a first time voice actor. Are they full at the moment on application?

brisk trail Feb 29, 2020, 8:37 PM

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They post any openings they have, if you don't see anything here or on their website they're probably not hiring.

plush dagger Feb 29, 2020, 8:38 PM

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yeah they post whenever they need new people

weak canyon Feb 29, 2020, 8:38 PM

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ok, thanks guys. I really love their games

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Mostly hades and bastion

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If i try hard enough i can sound like hades, Zagreus, Dionysus

jade grove Feb 29, 2020, 8:41 PM

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They have only an artist job open

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Sadly

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@hardy lake A lot of people have been there (myself included)... me with Transistor, but then I bought it and every game since from Supergiant.

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Worth it

weak canyon Feb 29, 2020, 8:46 PM

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ah, well i'll just build my resume and apply to others then. But thanks for the knowledge

harsh forge Feb 29, 2020, 9:25 PM

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i just end the game for the first time xd

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nice nice

crystal plume Feb 29, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Beating the final boss for the first time feels really rewarding

weak canyon Feb 29, 2020, 11:05 PM

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your in for it

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go to #h1-story-discussion

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and enjoy the ride

tiny bobcat Mar 1, 2020, 1:39 AM

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guys when's next update? i can't find it anywhere except in game, and right now i can't access the game 😦

sharp parcel Mar 1, 2020, 1:40 AM

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10 days

stiff sleet Mar 1, 2020, 1:54 AM

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1 0 D A Y S

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 1:54 AM

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ooooh

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exciting!

analog elbow Mar 1, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I lowkey believe Skelly is one of the Olympians, prolly Zeus

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anyone else?

iron fog Mar 1, 2020, 2:19 AM

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what about. one of the titans?

analog elbow Mar 1, 2020, 2:20 AM

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🤔 could be

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 2:22 AM

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prometheus?

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grants knowledge and skill and the tools zag uses to advance

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was eternally punished at some point, then freed at another point when heracles came for him

iron fog Mar 1, 2020, 2:23 AM

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wasn't prometheus killed in the original mythos? i can't remember

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 2:23 AM

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did that happen after the eagle liver treatment?

iron fog Mar 1, 2020, 2:23 AM

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oh i think i mixed him up with someone else

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right ye prom is eagle liver man

sharp parcel Mar 1, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Prometheus was rescued by Heracles

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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yep. and hades is definitely... post-heracles

sharp parcel Mar 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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and considering that ||Heracles is dead in Hades||, that means Prometheus is free, upstairs

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 2:39 AM

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couldn't he be... in disguise, I guess? shape-shifted into a skeleton, to take a wild and unjustified shot in the dark

sharp parcel Mar 1, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I doubt it. He might be a trickster but he wouldn't infiltrate the house of Hades and spend all his time there, getting pounded by Zag.

dark cradle Mar 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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If anything I would bank on him being Cadmus, the first Greek hero and first king of Thebes. Plus he created the Spartoi, which were a skeletal race, but that part is a bit of a stretch.

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But then again, Cadmus would likely be living it up in Elysium.

alpine mural Mar 1, 2020, 3:30 AM

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sooo does anyone actually know how aphrodite x ares duo works?

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"curse of longing"

flat vapor Mar 1, 2020, 3:31 AM

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on weak foes, the doom re-procs. each time it's 25% of the previous damage

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 3:31 AM

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like it says, i think? if you apply a doom effect to a weak enemy it'll keep proccing afterwards, at half strength each time

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er, 25%

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until the weak runs out

alpine mural Mar 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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so it's 25% of original damage or 25% less damage per proc

flat vapor Mar 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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25% of the original

alpine mural Mar 1, 2020, 3:33 AM

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first proc =100% second =75% or 25% of original?

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ok

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thats really low

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 3:33 AM

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it's not great, yeah.

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i mean, getting repeated doom procs is cool insofar as doom is often fairly high-damage, but. curse of longing is not a run-definer

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 3:34 AM

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YOOOOOOOOOOOOO can Demeter cast have lightning rod (dual zeus artemid) effect?

flat vapor Mar 1, 2020, 3:34 AM

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curse of longing used to not have the limited damage and it was OP, but now it's meh at best

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@warm dove not at the same time as the lasers, if that's what you mean

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lightning rod only works with the bloodstone icon thingy

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 3:35 AM

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ok got it

opaque nexus Mar 1, 2020, 3:44 AM

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can we get a mod that makes every texture bouldy

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bouldy

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Renovate the lounge mean i have to buy everythings of the contractor or what?

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need help

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bouldy

glad lichen Mar 1, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Yeah, contractor has some things that will fix it up.

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A loooot is cosmetic but there are about 12 that are needed for story.

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/gameplay.

alpine mural Mar 1, 2020, 7:05 AM

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is it intended or a bug that chaos boons don't stack

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I got 2 caustic strikes and one just disappeared after the negative

alpine mural Mar 1, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Also can I post a pic of the end screen of my run? would that be considered spoilers?

merry harbor Mar 1, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Those tend to go in gameplay with no repercussions!

alpine mural Mar 1, 2020, 7:33 AM

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ok ready?

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realized this isn't gameplay XD

primal whale Mar 1, 2020, 11:35 AM

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ahh maybe skelly is the new weapon

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 12:31 PM

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do we need another cursed weapon

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 12:52 PM

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@undone plaza There are a lot of generally just buffs the weapon as of all, infact most of my win comes from able to access hammer as first boon.

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there are less niche upgrades (cough cough triple shot or the charged volley for bow but thats about it)

undone plaza Mar 1, 2020, 12:54 PM

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@novel wasp I don't mind Deadalus being first thing that appears at the beginning of the run, even if it screws up my build, but I want it to be consistent.

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so if it is to appear, let it always appear at the beginning, not just sometimes

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and I had runs, where I didn't get the god's boon after 3rd or 4th chamber, even though I got that god's keepsake, you know what I mean?

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I had the least blessed run last round yet i won because i got accessed to 3 hammers, i dont even have an attack boon until like I reached styx

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but yes the godkeepsake should proc them as first god no matter what

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 12:56 PM

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damn guan yu spear is overpowered

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 12:56 PM

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How lol

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i still have trouble to use it

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i still use the og fork levle 5

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speed is key

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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i deadass

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got to elysium first try uwu

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Lol i cant

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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without knowing how tf that thing works

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while with railgun that i love so much

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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slow is not my style

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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i couldnt get to elysium

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well boss fight

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and yet i was tired and tried dying on my own

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:19 PM

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why do they guilt trip you so hard in gods trial when you literally have no choice 😭

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IM SORRY GRANDMA I DONT WANNA MAKE MY WAIFU SAD

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when they are upset a part of me dies inside

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/163296643632988160/683664984168726551/unknown.png

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Hate god trials

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I actually feel bad

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:20 PM

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yeah right?

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:20 PM

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For chosing one and not the other

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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BUT 2 BOONS

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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eh, it's standard fare for olympians, they're cool with it afterwards anyway

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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i know but they throw a lot of shades except poseidon

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Imagine those 2 boons

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Being kinda useless?

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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I just got a legendary from artemis

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Poseidon is cool

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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useless much? LMFAO

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Poseidon is manbaby

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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And that uh alchoholic one

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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dionysus

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Alchoholic and grandpa

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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he's mostly just like "not cool bro"

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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They cool

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Yeah

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Like

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"No go bro"

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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nah dionysus' attitude of "im not angry, im just disappointed" adds more insult to the injury

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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dionysus' attack effect is also one of the easier ones for me to deal with so i'll always go for the other one

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Demetwr

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Makes me

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Die

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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aphrodite is like how dare you 🔫

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I actually

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Give them nectar

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After i choose one

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:23 PM

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SAME

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:23 PM

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UwU

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I like how I am not hte only one to do that

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:23 PM

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it'd be neat if having high enough nectar on a god made them get less angry when not chosen

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like they still throw enemies at you but not their god nukes

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I choose gods trial if i see artem- that bow girl

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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artemis is a good girl YuiBless

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Bow girl

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She goes pew pew

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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actually I wonder if they can be more merciful

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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What boons should i look for when i have guan yu

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:24 PM

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as if you die they will immediately stop

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buuut the boons will be less rare

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Everyone loves guan yu

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Or hates it

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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i just dk how to use it

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i use the original or hades fork

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:25 PM

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guan yu's like the cursed sword upgrade right?

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Idk

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I know nothing bout the "meta" things

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Or something

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I heard that people love shield alot

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And i just find it kinda weird

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:26 PM

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it's the speedrunner's choice iirc

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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i hate shield lol

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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^

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I love rail alot tho ❤

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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it seems effective but i don't care for using it

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i don't have many upgrades for it though so maybe i'm just using the wrong aspect

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Rel gun and gun yun

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 1:28 PM

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i just like sword tbh

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sword good.

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Sord gud jes

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Rel gud

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Im sording

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Gun yun jes

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:29 PM

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also using a really stupid build

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20% damage, 60% from demeter, 98% from chaos

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I just do what i like lol

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:29 PM

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prepare to die

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I just take what looks more colorful

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Nd which hhas

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+(random number)% increased attack/special

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 1:40 PM

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i need an answer

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when you play zeus boon especially lightning strike

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i see that it count damage per lightning hit

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but when i play Chiron aspect

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it seem like the lightning strike got bug and only count 1

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is it true? or i just doesnt pay attention

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:46 PM

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yes the special for bow only procs once

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dk why tho

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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i think its happen after long winter update

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I mean

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it has 9 shots

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it could be stupid i guess if it procs 9 times

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but 1 time is just so underwhelming

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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i got it tho

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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gimme my proc 9 times lol

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if melee can have it so can for the bow damn it

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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you know

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its used to have

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15 arrow on special

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Lol

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 1:51 PM

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and 15 time

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is why i got my 15m run

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lv 5 heroic zeus special

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epic special speed

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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quick update: started learning greek mythology just cuz of hades

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ik im the best

marsh jackal Mar 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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What do you think the best boon is for chiron?

covert current Mar 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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idk

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Nine days.

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Things that stack

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I got good mileage out of Artemis special

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Dionysus, too

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Maybe are if you can get impending doom and the stacking doom effect

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Ares

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@marsh jackal, Aphrodite's attack + Dio's special, or Zeus' attack + Demeter's special.

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Don't forget about duos.

visual briar Mar 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Yeah, def Demeter

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Insta-chilling to near max

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Plus that one boon that blasts at 10 stacks.

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dusa

warm dove Mar 1, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Any effect boon will do fine

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Idk who would ever choose Maimed

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i know theres like more choices but Maimed is straight out cutting off your legs and tell you to crawl

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i wish it was something more intuitive than just not allow you to use it

fluid current Mar 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Fade I sent a friend request on discord

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Accept

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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why

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Can I refuse?

fluid current Mar 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Then I see

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Cause I dont add random people that i dont even talked to before? lol

fluid current Mar 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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You talked to me now

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

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still i dont add everyone who ive talked to, jeez

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@foggy flame Artemis call has some of the biggest nuke power, imagine remove invincibility frame you could end hades under 60 seconds lol

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or even faster for speedrunners who knows how to hit faster

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also no offense but @plush dagger since you disagree with maimed being terrible how would you play around it if you are not given a choice but having just maimed boons, i wanna know a way to play around it, too many times chaos decided to gimp me by giving maimed purple

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:36 PM

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@novel wasp, maimed is ok, because you mostly move and dodge with dashes.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:36 PM

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dodge with dashes?

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you can dodge chaos attack?

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Wait, you said "cutting your legs off".

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What is maimed for again?

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Everytime you use LMB, you get damaged

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Then not always dangeerous.

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Zooka spear special for example.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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im perfectly fine with not able to cast and special but this basically feels like just gimp the experience for me

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Yeah unless you already have good hammer upgrades prior

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Or zooka rail special.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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picking maimed is always 100% going south

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unlike the other debuffs does not gimp me it just setbacks me

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this one particular i feel the most

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I remember picking maimed with rail.

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God, it was awful.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:39 PM

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yeah right?

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:39 PM

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But again, it's not always bad.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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it forces you to play in such an awkward manner which one of the fundemental function is lost in this combo flavor

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at least without special or cast you could still do a good dmg just be discipline about it

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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What bothers me is that you got hit by it twice if you use shield or spear for charging.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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spin and bull rush all are m1

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Again, you can't KO yourself with it.

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Yes.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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but yeah i really hate maimed

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i feel like its just there to be the sake of consistency

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imagine a situation of having sword and then gets maimed, 3 of them

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good luck

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at least you can nova tho but boi you cant hit anything without a dash strike just makes me cry

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Poseidon aspect.

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boromir

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Nemesis aspect only sorry

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how can i predict the curse too lmfao

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unless i decided to do savescum

vagrant flint Mar 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I love picking ambiguous curses.

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Like cast pickup delay for cast builds.

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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those are fine honestly

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I like every single one of them except maimed

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again, reason being they dont gimp you as hard as maimed, just need more discipline when you engage

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heck i think i picked up stygius already with the succ health curse and then lower health because im terrible

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i went thru aesterius with 3 max hp LMFAO

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it was pretty epic but after that I died to a greatshield

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~~delete greatshield~~

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im just hate the fact that the blocking of the greatshield is inconsistent at best, dionysus AOE, blocked, Aphrodite shotgun, blocked, Rail's Q, comes from above but still blocked, then sword nova, not blocked.

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Im like ??????

fluid current Mar 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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https://discord.gg/fEbqhx

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Um, no

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put it over here #self-promotion

fluid current Mar 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Just join

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Come on

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 4:54 PM

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who joins random discords posted out of the blue nani

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kinda surprised linking other discords is even allowed tbh

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

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because they allowed embed links

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thats why we can link our endgame

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

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they should be separate permissions

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

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but yea how about no

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first persuade a random stranger to add as friend even though being refused, and then joining discord, even though you are probably just joined like 3 minutes ago

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thanthink

digital tree Mar 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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@warm dove About your feedback. I'm guessing you mean "nerfed," right? I don't think "neft" is a word. Anyways, assuming you do mean nerfed, I totally agree. I hate that they made already weak "proc" boons like lightning strike/flourish, support fire, and doom only apply once per attack when the descriptions say they proc on hit. It makes them even weaker, to the point that I rarely even bother with them at all.

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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checking on i think external invites are blocked off with a bot on another server i'm on rather than it being a default discord thing

knotty epoch Mar 1, 2020, 4:58 PM

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you can do that with dyno which the server already has

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even for specific channels

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which should really already be in place given the presence of a self promo channel

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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anyway thanks for coming by, i dont enjoy the feeling of being persuaded and no one helps me lol

echo tangle Mar 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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am I the only who finds the passion dash sound annoying af

novel wasp Mar 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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its only you im sorry I need more mama's bling bling

lilac bronze Mar 1, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Does anyone know what the second to last monster is for the "Wanton Ransacking" minor prophecy? Thats the only one i havent done for a while now

potent silo Mar 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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how many runs did it take you guys for that minotaur + spear guy boss?

merry harbor Mar 1, 2020, 6:42 PM

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1

potent silo Mar 1, 2020, 6:45 PM

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bruh

mortal ivy Mar 1, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I got there on my second attempt. Took like 2-3 tries to beat them though.

potent silo Mar 1, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Two attempts of reaching the third island, right?

mortal ivy Mar 1, 2020, 6:54 PM

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My first run ended in a lava pool at the Asphodel entrance, so yes

potent silo Mar 1, 2020, 6:55 PM

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How did the fight go? did you find it easy to avoid damage, or did it take one defilement or two or what?

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I only reached that fight twice, personally, and I don't know if I am taking too much damage, I don't think I am but usually I am at like 100 hp with no difilement by the time I reach them and the fight takes such a long time I usually end up dying after taking out 3/4 the health bar of the minotaur

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also would you advise the shield dude first or the minotaur?

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in terms of focusing that is

mortal ivy Mar 1, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Minotaur first

potent silo Mar 1, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Okay

sleek juniper Mar 1, 2020, 7:01 PM

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@lilac bronze ; Wanton ransacking is;

Wavemaker, burn flinger and green burn flinger. (All in tartarus)
Megagorgon and skull crusher (in asphodel; miniboss is either this battle or the barge of death)
Mega soulcatcher (in elysium; either this or asterius in miniboss room)
Elite versions of bother, giant vermin, satyr cultist and snakestone. (in styx; the miniboss rooms; one per room)

If you turn on middle management; the styx ones will summon two elites rather than 1; can make it easier to snag them. Also highest damage companion works wonders against styx elites.

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 7:01 PM

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theseus summons god nukes if you go for him first, v annoying

sleek juniper Mar 1, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Against theseus call stage; just summon a companion as he is calling to make it go smoother.

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The highest damage companion is the best cause it insta kills theseus.

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 7:02 PM

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companions aren't an early option

sleek juniper Mar 1, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Oh; then you can cast while he is calling

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Try to dash-attack him to do some damage; because the whole time he does not have the shield up

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While running in circles

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Also a good reason to always take out asterius first.

mortal ivy Mar 1, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I mean it's mostly just about making sure you have enough damage going into the fight, and then kiting the bull around & killing him first while dodging Theseus's spear attack

cold wraith Mar 1, 2020, 7:05 PM

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although theseus feels like he has less health so if you can rush him down it might work

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yeah keeping an eye on his target thing helps a lot

sleek juniper Mar 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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If you are comfortable with the heat option; the upgraded fight has asterius much harder; but makes theseus much less of an issue.

plush dagger Mar 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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@novel wasp Maimed curse isn't that bad in most scenarios, especially the one you described

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with Hera bow you can push through it since you probably don't need more than 1 or 2 shots if you get your Casts back, and you can always shoot your Special point-blank if you don't want to lose too much health

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then again all Chaos curses are situational, if it's too punishing, avoid it

keen shadow Mar 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Hello, i have an issue with my game. I cannot give Ambrosia to anyone, despite having given them enough Nectar to get the "Learn more by deeping your relationship with X". Wiki said there is a task to be done for Dusa, buying stuff at the lounge and cleaning behind Cerberus, but I've bought almost every upgrade in the lounge and yet I can't give Ambrosia to Dusa. What am I missing ?

agile saddle Mar 1, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Keep talking to her and at some point she will have a !

keen shadow Mar 1, 2020, 9:53 PM

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hmm, ok...it's been a long time coming (I'm at 35+ runs)

dark cradle Mar 1, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Yeah the amount of runs you need to do is random

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It'll happen eventually.

keen shadow Mar 1, 2020, 10:21 PM

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ok, thanks

inner apex Mar 1, 2020, 10:24 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2011760442

Steam Community :: Screenshot

Steam Community: Hades.

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Does this goblet look a little big to you?

dark cradle Mar 1, 2020, 10:25 PM

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DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?

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And nah it looks God sized

jade grove Mar 1, 2020, 10:27 PM

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it looks misplaced to me

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it's floating

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looks bigger than it is, bad placement

dark cradle Mar 1, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I'm on my phone so I can't tell too well

plush dagger Mar 1, 2020, 10:39 PM

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it's usually surrounded by smaller ones, it looks huge by itself lol

viral bronze Mar 1, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I severely underestimated ares' doom effect until now

dark cradle Mar 1, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Yeah it's good

viral bronze Mar 1, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Ended up with 26.8% dodge from lambent plume, 25% dodge from a boon, and enough ares buffs to consistently deal 400+ doom damage

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My third successful run was the easiest one so far. (Still ended up using a death defiance in th last fight though. I messed up)

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25 minutes. Hermes would approve.

dark cradle Mar 1, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Nice!

fluid current Mar 1, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Hello

marsh jackal Mar 1, 2020, 11:37 PM

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hi

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do you guys know what the requirements are for zeus legendary?

glad lichen Mar 1, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Check the wiki, it has all the boons and reqs for each one on each God page.

marsh jackal Mar 1, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I did but didn't see the requirement on wiki

knotty epoch Mar 1, 2020, 11:44 PM

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https://hades.gamepedia.com/File:ZeusBoonTree.png

Hades Wiki

File:ZeusBoonTree.png

frosty vector Mar 1, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Hey random question, is Hades coming to switch?

remote moat Mar 2, 2020, 12:06 AM

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does rare crop have any prerequisites to spawn ?

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like having a certain number of boons ?

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I’d imagine it will come to the switch

opal bay Mar 2, 2020, 12:53 AM

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yay first time hades kill in hell mode

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after getting 5400 darkness haha

stiff sleet Mar 2, 2020, 1:20 AM

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@remote moat From what I've noticed, no? I think you just need to have a boon, period, from what I've noticed.

opaque heron Mar 2, 2020, 1:28 AM

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So I'm interested. For those of you who disagreed with my notes about Chain Shot+Triple Shot, why? I'm curious, since while the combo was absurd I was having a ton of fun playing with it.

carmine pecan Mar 2, 2020, 1:35 AM

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BongoBlob

knotty epoch Mar 2, 2020, 1:37 AM

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It's strong together, especially with a poseidon attack, but nerfing that is really bad for any other builds that use those hammers

opaque heron Mar 2, 2020, 1:38 AM

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That's a fair argument. What if the extra shots don't bounce of off walls though, unless they also hit a target?

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Then Triple Shot and Chain Shot both stay the same, but it just spot-nerfs that combo? And again, this is all assuming this isn't intended; if Triple+Chain is intended to be this strong, I'm totally fine with it staying as-is lol

knotty epoch Mar 2, 2020, 1:42 AM

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That doesn't really just spot nerf the combo though

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It removes some of the relative safety of having just Chain Shot

deep pivot Mar 2, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I will have to try that. I never pick Triple Shot squirtnya

opaque heron Mar 2, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Hilariously, I also stumbled upon this combo entirely by accident; Triple Shot looked best out of my starting hammer's choices, and I needed Chain to finish the Fates quest for it (which popped up in Elysium), so that's how I discovered it myself

knotty epoch Mar 2, 2020, 1:44 AM

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What were the other two that made triple shot the best

warm dove Mar 2, 2020, 2:28 AM

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so far after the update, i couldnt find Exit Wounds aka dislodged. damage. They removed it or what. Need answer

tardy flume Mar 2, 2020, 2:30 AM

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what are everyone's guesses for the new weapon?

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personally I think it will be a scythe of some sort

warm dove Mar 2, 2020, 2:32 AM

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ITS GUNNA BE A GIANT AXE

tardy flume Mar 2, 2020, 2:46 AM

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probably

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a melee weapon

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that has no ranged functionality

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like the sword

livid cargo Mar 2, 2020, 4:01 AM

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@warm dove its still in

spring plaza Mar 2, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Silly question. When restarting the game in Hell Mode using a new save. Do we have to redo the tedious settings boons, weapons, upgrades and stuff?

What is in it as reward then beside the pleasure to play at an harder difficulty?

livid cargo Mar 2, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I think hell mode only is for the challenge right now

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Hell mode is the only way to get to 50 heat as well

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 4:32 AM

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what's the name of the extra Pact condition in Hell Mode?

spring plaza Mar 2, 2020, 4:42 AM

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@primal whale To be sincere, I find the Pact of Punishment (POP?) a bit bothersome (borderline breaking what is the game about in some cases). Most fights become tedious and my poor old eyes can't cope with the too many effects in some rooms. Plus, it is redundant and contradictory to the Mirror. But it appeals to the players who are really talented and love the challenge...and it is a real great bonus!

Anyway, it is not like Hades is the only good Rogue-Lite which tries to implement some ARPG or RPG elements yet useless when trying to address hardcore gamers and their own core game design (Cough Dead Cells...Cough).

I will be just contented with playing and trying too beat a game a bit higher difficulty...

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I enjoy the system up to a point but I think there needs to big a big rescaling and modifying of the heats.

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Some of the heats are so punishing, especially compared to how much they give you, that their only purpose is to see if you can take them. One of them also makes the entire run RNG based, which is not increasing difficulty, it’s gutting the core game

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But I really enjoyed doing the first 20, and the big challenge of 32. Anything 33 and beyond loses its fun

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Mostly because you are forced to dip into the poorly balanced/scaled heat options

spring plaza Mar 2, 2020, 4:47 AM

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@primal whale See, you go to 32 Heats. Myself I am a WeakDong, and really I can't enjoy above 16 with all weapons and any boons.

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 4:47 AM

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@plush dagger personal liability

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I’ve only got to 32 on rail

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And I don’t do 21-31

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 4:48 AM

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and what does it do? it's not in the wiki 😦

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 4:48 AM

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No i-frames when you take a particularly strong hit.

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Yeah

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Their description of it isn’t great

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 4:48 AM

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So you can get oneshotted basically

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I did even know I had built in I frames

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Had to find that out in the gameplay channel

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Choosing the right heats is pretty important for getting 32

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In my experience at least

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I like the 15 - 20 heat range a lot because it’s where I really felt like I was getting good at the game

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Spent a lot more time between rooms and bosses thinking about the right choices, and started giving up when I recognized that the current seed was much more favorable to a different aspect/weapon/boon set up

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The whole system of exploring a given runs seed and getting to know what will be offered is so valuable for getting a strong start to a run and yet it’s not mentioned at all in the game

spring plaza Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 AM

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@primal whale Oh yeah, seeded runs. But that is a problem in fact. If the game design should be in synergy with the lore, then all run should be RNG...hence all runs should be possible with all weapons, all boons even at max Heats...

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Like if I get offered hammer in the very first room and I’m doing high heat, I’ll often give up and play that first room with multiple weapons to see if I get my favorite hammers

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Hello friends~

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Is forcing every run to be random consistent with lore?

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Ideally they’d have the option for seeded or non seeded runs

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Hi

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👋

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For one, I don’t think any build is viable at 49 or 50 heat. And to design a game that allowed for total rng but also every combination of weapon, boon, keepsake, etc. was also viable at every heat would be either very difficult to pull off and still be satisfying, or just too easy

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For me, the ideal would be rebalancing the heats or just changing some of them entirely and adding in a seeded and nonseeded mode

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Their decision of how they decided to increase difficulty isn’t going to appeal to everyone but for me personally, I’ve mostly enjoyed it and appreciate their decision to do it that way, although being in beta, it’s not without it’s faults

spring plaza Mar 2, 2020, 5:08 AM

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@primal whale There is no easy solution anyway.

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Definitely, but also whatever they choose, inevitably some people will really like it and others won’t.

spring plaza Mar 2, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Because : " La critique est aisée et l'art est difficile"
It is a quote from 1732 by French comedian Philippe Néricault
It does translate by: Criticism is easy but art (as creation) is difficult

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Indeed. And I think it’s important to acknowledge when something was well thought out and made with care, even if some people hate it. I dislike a lot of things because they were just lazily made, and then I also dislike a lot of things but understand the work and passion that went into it but recognize that it just isn’t for me.

spring plaza Mar 2, 2020, 6:29 AM

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@primal whale Wise words from a grumpy wise cat

primal whale Mar 2, 2020, 6:52 AM

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😾

wild trellis Mar 2, 2020, 8:35 AM

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When is the next update scheduled for?

lusty stump Mar 2, 2020, 8:35 AM

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In 8-9 days, you can check in the main menu

wild trellis Mar 2, 2020, 8:36 AM

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O sweet ty

cursive steppe Mar 2, 2020, 9:34 AM

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8 days squirtyay

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Didn't think Hades would make me listen to Darren Korb a lot, like honestly this guy is amazing

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 10:29 AM

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It's amazing that he's consistently great.

novel wasp Mar 2, 2020, 10:45 AM

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@plush dagger I just said you could only rely on Special point blank but thats about it, and the melee weapon still stands because most of the damage comes from the constant basic attacks, unless being hammered like explosive Q for spear. And the point being is that it gimps your gameplay, a straight up less damage for LMB would be cool imo, at least I could still work around it but I know some people will just said "haha just dont take it 4head"

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infact most of the curses except maimed i feel like I only need slightly more discipline and I could work around it, for example if taking more damage in general curse? Play more safe. Unable to Special? Utilize other combos that doesnt priotize special. (and ngl tho being disappointed with a purple maimed really pisses me off cause i bought the yarn for it, and i cant even use it because too punishing for me all times 😒 )

latent gulch Mar 2, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Anyone able to provide me with Theseus and Asterius references of the in game profiles? I'm going to draw a thing and I thought it'd be worthwhile to ask.

karmic oasis Mar 2, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Just want to say that the PAX Orchestra was amazing, thanks Darren, Ashley, Austin, and the Orchestra. That was really amazing to listen to, bet it was even better live. Thanks for streaming it!

deep pivot Mar 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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OMG Asterius & Theseus art 😍

latent gulch Mar 2, 2020, 5:06 PM

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^^; It ended up just being a sketch. It's in fan-works.

iron plaza Mar 2, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Does Bouldy's Ambiguity Bonus actually do anything?

deep pivot Mar 2, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I've been told that no, that it was just for laughs

sharp parcel Mar 2, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I wish it actually buffed everything by 2%

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2% more gold, more darkness, damage reduction and damage increase

iron plaza Mar 2, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I wish it did something, but it was entirely unclear which.

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Or that it sometimes does something and sometimes doesn't.

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Ares seems to be the most gay out of all the gods in the game

strong walrus Mar 2, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I don't know man, have you seen Dionysus?

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Dionysus, best starter with the shield 😄

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(Especially maxed up with 5 shields with the special after the "Charge de Taureau")

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:32 PM

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dionysus is like

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that grandpa that nonstop drinks

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or smoke weed

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and is somehow not a butthole

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Is this a confession ? Is there a problem in your family ? XD

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

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damn

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no sadly

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i mean wouldnt mind having Ares as a Gay father

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and Dio as a alchoholic grandpa

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:39 PM

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In france here we have a thing, mostly we say that it's the (sorry I don't have the word) the husband of your aunt who's drunk, tell racist jokes and "dances" like of course a drunk person ^^

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:39 PM

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damn

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Uncle .. FML I had it ><

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:39 PM

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sounds liek "cool" guy

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like*

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apart the racist part

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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liek, I'll use it again 😄

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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gotta act normal in this server xox

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Card. ?

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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yes?

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Is tree ?

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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is tree?

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:41 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGvdVaHaNa4

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covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:42 PM

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no Card sounded like the most edgy and non-generic name i could find

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+Hisoka abuses cards (hxh)

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anyway what boons should i use for Guan yu spear

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and what daedalus upgrades are the best for it?

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I never used spear :/

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:43 PM

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what weapon u use?

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Sword, Gun and shield :/

covert current Mar 2, 2020, 7:44 PM

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love the rail btw

hardy lake Mar 2, 2020, 7:44 PM

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9 heat with gun and shield, I never know which +1 heat to upgrade !

marsh jackal Mar 2, 2020, 8:08 PM

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9 heat
I do one point in speed boost
2 points in blue shield
2 points in coin cost
2 points in elite foes

10 heat
I do one point in speed boost
2 points in blue shield
2 points in coin cost
2 points in elite foes
1 point in boss

warped light Mar 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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so i'm kinda wondering about something. Since it's heavily shown that the Olympian gods expect Zag to ascend to Olympus with them once he's out of the underworld, and they've already shown they're perfectly willing to try and kill him if he slightly ticks them off. And also that Zag has no plans of heading up to Olympus. Could this lead to some post game content where we get something like a boss rush of the various gods that had been helping us? i dunno just kind of spit balling here.

hasty torrent Mar 2, 2020, 8:33 PM

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thats a lot of gods to fight..

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im struggling with theseus and the bull as it is currently..

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but yeh i think they're gonna be annoyed

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i do wonder what the fallout is going to be over that

molten nymph Mar 2, 2020, 8:35 PM

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@covert current When I used the guan yu spear I mostly loaded up on health and extra attack and special damage. The quick spin hammer upgrade is best because it helps regain health quicker. Otherwise you get hit every time you try to spin attack people.

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I’m sure the annoyed olympians will play into the plot somehow. I mean the ultimate goal is to find your mum and at least Demeter would probably support you in that (and maybe Artemis too since she’s a hunting god).

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Hi all. Wanted to know your opinion. Do you also feel that base version and most of upgrades of Heart Seeking Bow is kinda underpowered? I'm comparing it to other weapons and can't help but feel it's not rewarding enough.
Look:
Comparing to Adamant Rail, it has better range. BUT in most cases you cannot use this range so much, since enemies are moving toward you. Price of miss is higher (because you can re-point AR between shots), shooting speed per damage point seems kinda equal even with reloading.
Comparing to Aegis in both cases you need to charge, but bow gives you no protection, while with similar range (again, max range in rare ocasion). Also, area of attack is higher on Shield.
As for Spear and Stygian... well, you actually do not need to sacrifice your mobility for doing damage (while game is heavily relies on movement), while applying stagger very often on non-armored foes.
And add timing of Perfect Shot above all this....

IDK, maybe I'm doing something wrong, but with all other arms game seems to be fun and feel rewarding really much, while with Bow I usually need quite specific build(s) to feel at least some satisfaction.
Actually, it feels like Bow should give you either better effect on Perfect Shot or one Dash without loosing charge, I think.

Or am I using it wrong?

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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You should make a habit of using your dash-strike to keep your distance and using your normal attack only when you know you're safe

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and maybe use aim assist if you're struggling with your shots

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I gave it a thought. But it seems that in that case dash-strike becomes your main attack instead of charged one. And again, it does not give that much damage. As for aim assist - with it it sometimes difficult to aim through several opponents in time (aim stuck on side enemy), without it - yes, easier to miss. Also, on long range enemies tend to get away from line of sight. So, basically, you have very rare opportunity to land fully charged shot, and ever more rare - to do PS. Statistically, i mean

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 9:54 PM

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only thing you can do is practice, learn to keep your distance, practice Perfect Shot timings and dash-strike often if there are too many enemies around you

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your shots stagger, so it does have the upper hand compared to other weapons

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damage isn't an issue with the right boons

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Emm...

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That's exactly what I'm talking about

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Right boons, lots of practice and rare use of weapon's main gimmick. While I can basically have same damage output/kill speed/survivability with other weapons with almost any combination of boons and upgrades (not absolutely any, but easy-to-get builds).

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Feels that bow should be kinda more powerful if you're reaching high skill.

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I mean, it seems it should be polar - low, but reliable dmg vs high risk-high reward setup

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 9:59 PM

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rare use of weapon's main gimmick? it's main gimmick it's the distance and timing
you'll obviously hit less if you're not properly using Perfect Shots

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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I mentioned why I hit less.

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timing is not a problem, mate 🙂

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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I see

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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How long have you been playing?

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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I'm playing Tekken, here you sometimes need to do just-frames

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@brisk trail 38hrs, running second level of hear.

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Keep playing, it'll come to you in time.

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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on everything but bow 🙂

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:01 PM

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if you feel like you hit less with the Bow, or other weapons are easier or just feel better, it's because of the range

You sacrifice a bit of your damage for distance/safety, and Perfect Shot makes you hit somewhat comparable damage to other weapons

agile saddle Mar 2, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Hera bow can have some of the highest damage output.

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Yeah, I figured it out. Haven't tried this aspect yet, but it's kinda obvious, yes.

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@plush dagger I agree with you here. But actually how often this distance is safe?

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Most of enemies are quite fast to chase you.

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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once you understand it's gimmick of constant dashing and shooting, you can start getting closer and closer, and then you can do stuff like getting enemies close so you can hit multiple enemies with one arrow

agile saddle Mar 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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There is also a hammer upgrade to remove perfect shot and explosive shot is busted

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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"constant dashing and shooting" - why do I need bow for this then? 🙂

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Any melee will do it better 🙂

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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uh

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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I've beaten 20 Heat with Zagreus Aspect bow.

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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dash away and shoot, you mean?

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Play more.

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Guys, I'm not telling that Bow is trash

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yeah I'm not good with explaining things sorry

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Truth be told you don't have to use the weapon if you don't enjoy its playstyle

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I'm telling that it feels really unrewarding in most cases.

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Fortunately there are four others and a new one on the way

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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It's like +1 to punishment pact 🙂

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I think getting lots of consecutive power shots is very rewarding. 🤷

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I personally have zero issues using the bow.

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:06 PM

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The reward is not being hit
at melee range you risk being hit, the bow gives you the ability to constantly keep distance

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Again, compare with others. Mid-range of spear and Rail. Rail does not stagger, yes. But has more reliable special in defaul aspect.

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I think I'm missing the point of that example

agile saddle Mar 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The rail's special is not reliable

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It's extremely slow and can bounce off walls

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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rail special reliable?

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Wow 🙂

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Bombard is totally reliable.

cold wraith Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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i only really like rail special when it's upgraded, either from cluster or when it's a rocket

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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That is why this game is amazing 🙂

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I don't use Rail that much

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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You see what happens here, guys? ^)

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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the Special requires a lot of setup honestly

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rail special*

cold wraith Mar 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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it's great for clearing up a lot of small dudes like numbskulls though

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I neglected the sword for like the first 40h of gameplay but now it's my boi

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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We're arguing about 2 weapons having completely opposite opinion.

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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but ''reliable'' is not the word, especially compared to Bow's basic attacks

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Chamber clears are 2 quick

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Zeus Shield is fun too.

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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That means game is much deeper than it looks like on the first though.

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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you just said 2 completely different things

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that's not deep

dark cradle Mar 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yeah, I was going to say earlier, most issues people experience are circumstantial based on the individual.

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Where some might struggle others are breezing.

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Rail's special and Bow's attack are completely unrelated

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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No, i'm just trying to bring complex picture with lessr words in non-native language 🙂

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I did not compare attack and special :))

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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english isn't my native language either

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I'll try to explain

plush dagger Mar 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Again, compare with others. Mid-range of spear and Rail. Rail does not stagger, yes. But has more reliable special in defaul aspect.
@rugged fractal

rugged fractal Mar 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Yes.

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But what I meant is

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that you can dash away and keep attacking on mid-range with bow, spear and rail is similar manner

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But! in addition to same manner, you have more reliable special on Rail than Special on Bow (Chiron aspect included), due to large AOE and lack of interruption with casual foe going in front of the one you were targeting.

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So Separatelly - yes, dash attack of the bow is slightly more damaging (but usually I manage to do 2-3 swings with spear before next dash and 3-4 additional shots from rail).

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But only dash does not seem to be enough - area is limited so after each dash you have less space and, so, less time to charge next dash.

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Maybe running aroung in circles helps... need to try

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Sorry for not being clear earlier.

delicate arrow Mar 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I'm a Hera bow one trick

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And bow excels at kiting monsters whilst taking no damage at all

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Dash attack with powrrshot means highest damage output at highest range

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With a great option for hunting blades

knotty epoch Mar 2, 2020, 11:39 PM

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doesn't dash lower powershot damage

brisk trail Mar 2, 2020, 11:40 PM

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From 60 to 40.

opal mason Mar 3, 2020, 12:32 AM

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So, I don't really get it, but what makes Hera bow good? Why can't you just cast regular?

brisk trail Mar 3, 2020, 12:37 AM

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It lets you (almost-)instantly place Casts on enemies. This is a big deal for stuff like Tipsy Shot and Slicing Shot, which have zoning issues at times.

opal mason Mar 3, 2020, 12:37 AM

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is that all?

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It seems kinda underwhelming

jade grove Mar 3, 2020, 12:38 AM

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kind of is, partly due to recall timer being screwy

brisk trail Mar 3, 2020, 12:38 AM

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I'm not huge on it, personally, but a lot of players swear by it.

opal mason Mar 3, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I'm just trying to find an aspect i like for each weapon

knotty epoch Mar 3, 2020, 12:45 AM

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It also lets you release as many as you load in instead of having to sit there and wait (while it recoils you backward ever so slowly)

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Ayy

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Do you need to reach the surface before characters ask for favors? The Minotaur and Friend are kinda hit and miss depending on the hoons I get.

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@opal mason nuking is perfect against bosses, imagine able to cast all at once

oak bridge Mar 3, 2020, 1:45 AM

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The supportive shade should get some voice lines.

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 1:48 AM

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The rail gun is really fun with the hangover attack and support fire from artemis

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Just tonnes of spam, solid DPS. Unfortunately, no defense. The special is too slow and cumbersome to use with Deflect

jade grove Mar 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Athena attack is a defense :p

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so is range

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Athena is the NO U

jade grove Mar 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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"Hey Athena, if you're the smart one, what university did you go to?"
"No U"

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 1:55 AM

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all brain

fair prairie Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I agree the rail special is hard to use especially with faster enemies. I always try to avoid building into it

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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You just need to read enemies' movement

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I mean if you play any projectile based weapon in fps before reading is like the most important thing to master for them lol

fair prairie Mar 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Yeah but you can just spec into the main attack and succeed without doing that

jade grove Mar 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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that's easier said than done on controller

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Rail feels like a kbm weapon

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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k&m best

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LOL

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thing is the auto aim for controller targets enemies

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so you cant do the predict and read

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like sometimes i wanna do the pierce between the hurtbox of bow's arrow but the auto aim auto locks my aim to an enemy rather than in the middle

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i just turn off the auto aim entirely

jade grove Mar 3, 2020, 2:06 AM

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yeah basically

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:06 AM

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like i remembered when i do the reading but the middle (the cross thing) for the missile automatically locks to the middle of the enemy

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its um kinda dumb

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 2:09 AM

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As long as it's timed correctly. But Yea, I had Flurry and the Quick Attack from Hermies together, so I just mag-dumped hangover and support arrows into things lol.

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:11 AM

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laughs in greatshield

knotty epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I've never used Rail with controller. How do you control the special?

jade grove Mar 3, 2020, 2:14 AM

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you don't

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:')

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suffer

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or shoot it at a wall or in melee range and hope

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you can halfass it with the right stick but good luck

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claw grip your controller, lmao

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 2:15 AM

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all father of greek love to said :"BOI"

knotty epoch Mar 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I kinda wonder how the game would feel with the steam controller, but I'm too lazy to set mine up and try it right now

jade grove Mar 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Boy of Dad™️

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I smell God of War

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Boy of Dad

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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https://imgur.com/jMVCTF2
anyone got this yet?

Imgur

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the moment our Prince Z grown up

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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He always grown up bruh

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also you can now access to smug meg

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smug thanatos when wheeze

weak canyon Mar 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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shadesmile

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Leon from RE2 lookin ass

west chasm Mar 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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TFW 30 seconds from beating my best time

rugged fractal Mar 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I agree the rail special is hard to use especially with faster enemies. I always try to avoid building into it
@fair prairie try to get such build: Rocket Bomb + Triple Bomb as weapon upgrades, Deadly Flourish from Artemis and Swift Flourish from Hermes. Pressure Points and Clean Kill would be great if you could gather it. And/or some long-term curses (Dionysus, Aphrodite, Demeter) on attack and cast.

west chasm Mar 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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feels sad mad

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 2:43 AM

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feelsbadman

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 3:04 AM

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So anything % based is additive, not multiplicative?

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Like Bronze Skin + Positive Outlook or various damage boons

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 3:04 AM

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yes

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 3:04 AM

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mmk

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 3:04 AM

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YES

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 3:04 AM

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heres a story of how i played this game

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its not long but its basically because my friend knows i like roguelike greek history and supergiant's graphic

flat vapor Mar 3, 2020, 3:05 AM

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should be noted that the aphrodite/artemis duo Heart Rend is multiplicative, unlike other numbers in the game

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 3:07 AM

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then he bought me this game and hes like you might like this im like i tried and i go "yes its very much worth it"

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 3:28 AM

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heres a story of how i played this game. i got a epicgame coupon and this game pop up with hack n splash title so i bought it and played it till now @novel wasp

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Lol

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 3:30 AM

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The special isn't that hard with rail on controller

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the spear special is

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Unless you have cluster bombs, that crap is whack

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for the rail

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Oh I love when I respond to a message that I thought was recent....

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Does investing in the mirror raise the difficulty at all?

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Why the refunds

verbal jungle Mar 3, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Its to increase the difficulty by allowing you to take away your buffs or if you want to rearrange your purchases

loud spire Mar 3, 2020, 3:52 AM

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grinding darkness to upgrade your character in the mirror just so you can use the pact to take away the upgrades 🙂 and yet it's still so addicting

alpine silo Mar 3, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Is there any news about the new weapon?

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I only know that we’ll get one soon in the next patch

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Oh god

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I have 7 seconds left and i defeated hades monkaS

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 3:59 AM

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deadline doesnt deal too much damage a couple first second tho

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 4:21 AM

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I beat theseus after time ran out once, but then got murdered in styx

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they give you a couple seconds after time runs out

steel kelp Mar 3, 2020, 4:25 AM

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does this game have a house system or something similar?

merry harbor Mar 3, 2020, 4:26 AM

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The closest you get is the customizations from the House contractor, which are all pre-placed.

steel kelp Mar 3, 2020, 4:26 AM

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hum ok

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 4:39 AM

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used to customize ur house with high price but now its kinda ez to farm

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but i still cant bought > 700 gem stuff lul

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I just hope they add a fish tank at some point

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And you can choose to sell or put em in the tank

novel wasp Mar 3, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Oh I thought you get insta game over if it run out of time

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well that sounds much easier than it looks

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 6:27 AM

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You get like 3 seconds after it hits 0

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then its insta game over

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maybe less than 3

covert current Mar 3, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Ooga booga

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I live in caves

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Hows the internet there?

unborn beacon Mar 3, 2020, 6:47 AM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/ObliviousCredulousBunnyRickroll I found a bug

Twitch

bugreport - Clip of mickardon - Twitch Clips

Clip of mickardon Playing StarCraft II - Clipped by mickardon

▶ Play video

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If I press attack while charging the new bow special

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it keeps playing the sound effect

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 6:48 AM

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oh nooo

unborn beacon Mar 3, 2020, 6:48 AM

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you guys prolly know this already

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right

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 6:49 AM

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knew it never got it

unborn beacon Mar 3, 2020, 6:52 AM

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also the animation staggers into a drawn arrow if you tap the special key

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 6:54 AM

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I have a bunch of Artemis Skills, and Slicing Shot but not one Ares or Artemis has offered Hunting Blades in all of act 3 😦 Got Fully Loaded though

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 6:55 AM

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unlucky

unborn beacon Mar 3, 2020, 6:56 AM

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anyways new patch is great, the bounties are cool

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big fan of this video game

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the bow was never my favorite weapon but I like how when you tap the attack button it doesnt complete the attack animation

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it's really funny to spam that

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also never knew the attack charges faster after a dash

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very cool

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Yea, it cost me the boss lol, slicing shot isn't nearly as useful if it can't stay on target.

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:01 AM

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its not

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its pretty bad actually without it

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:02 AM

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brift is a late game build

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always got it like the last last room

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Yeah it requires quite a lot of boons

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:02 AM

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The attack charges faster after a dash but it does a bit less damage/range

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Even when you force the boons with keepsakes

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:03 AM

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I mean you just need 2 boons + the Duo

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Well

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Slicing Shot, Any Artemis Boon, Pray for Duo.

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:03 AM

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For it be strong, you'd preferable get vicious cycle

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:03 AM

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the duo always come last

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its always show up when i got my dual cast

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:04 AM

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which also requires black metal or whatchamacallit

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Yeah Vicious Cycle is the last one I need for 60 gems from Ares.

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:04 AM

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if i dont have my dual cast its nearly never showu\p

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Probably gonna stack weak or exposed + hangover for PS.

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Gettin' tired of stackin' crit on bow, Hera's is cool but kinda lackluster without a solid set of casting boons + at rank 1 it's still 10 seconds to reload.

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:05 AM

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heraaa haiz

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Can't get anymore Titan's blood until I farm diamonds/ambriosa/nectar since I've already beat the Furies with all 6 weapons

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:06 AM

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never have good build on it

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NEVER

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:06 AM

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I usually make it to the temple now, but unless I stack deflect/play stationary/bring Broken Spearhead that map is a wash

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:07 AM

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wanna try family abuse build?

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Levelled up my companion so I can use Battie twice. Gonna try poppin' the cap on those stupid "Elysium Champs" to save my lives.

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:09 AM

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https://imgur.com/rfWBL3g
try this family abuse build

Imgur

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turn this game from Hades - Battle out of hell to Hades - Massacre of Zagreus

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Man that's a lot of boons

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:11 AM

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3 time meet god trial of posei and zeus

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got their duo boon since first act

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Hades - Massacre of Zagreus

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:13 AM

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The Power shot on the bow works on both power shots right? Not just the regular attack one?

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Been going for Perfect Shot + Hunter's Stike + Deadly Strike. Combined total of 25% crit chance on all attacks, +100% from Hunter's Strike + 100% from Perfect Shot, doubled for the crit.

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:14 AM

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you need heart rend too

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that build is a big ambition too

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Yea it's pretty solid, Hide Breaker works more and more the later the run goes

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:15 AM

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I seem to have exhausted patroclus' dialogue and now talking to him just feels like depressing trick-or-treating

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which isn't exactly a problem, just an observation

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:15 AM

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stranger get this and go depressionnnnnnn

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:19 AM

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in other news I am entering theseus with full health and defiance because my current run is completely wild

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my first two rewards were rocket launcher and artemis special on aspect of eris and it just snowballed from there

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:44 AM

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@civic prism You get the special resources again for ever heat level you do up to a point

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@snow rock yep thats my favorite combo

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Insane to get it within 2 rewards

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:45 AM

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I also got triple bomb and increased critical damage

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:45 AM

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i love it with cluster bomb or triple bomb

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:45 AM

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but that was later

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Yeah but there's no option for heat until you beat the entire thing, I figure

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:46 AM

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I had a run doing 2k crits with that upgraded special

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Oh you're right I missed that part

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Where you specified the furies

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:46 AM

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I was one shotting the hydra heads and entered hades with full defiance and over 300 health

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wildest run I've had yet

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:47 AM

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yeah my main is the rail and that is exactly the reason why

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plus you can just casually get zeus attack

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and it destroys all low hp enemies

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:47 AM

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I passed up zeus attack for a higher rarity zeus cast

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:48 AM

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i mean its unnecessary at that point

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:48 AM

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entirely

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:48 AM

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I like demeter attack too

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to just slow everything down

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:48 AM

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I was clearing styx rooms instantly

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Yeah its insane

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getting rocket and cluster is fun for the rocket shotgun

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But triple is probably better because you dont have to get close

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:49 AM

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I think triple and rocket are my favorites for exagryph

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pretty delightful to get them in the same run

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I think the self detonation would be good for eris, if ever good at all

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:50 AM

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I never ever take it

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i forget how it even works

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And you cant use eris if you get it

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:51 AM

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I took it once for the fates and I'm never going to again

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:51 AM

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because it would just kill you

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That hammer and the hammer for the sword that is basically just a garbage guan yu are the worst

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Eris requires you to hit yourself with special

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so you just are effed at that point

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:52 AM

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I got that one as my first sword hammer and I actually liked it

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Really? Maybe I chose it at too high of a heat or I was just not good at that point, but one wrong move and I could die at full health

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:52 AM

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I also like guan yu but I'm no good with the spear in any way so it doesnt work for me

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Guan yu is great

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but it also adds extra abilities and takes away less max health/healing

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:53 AM

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I want to upgrade it more before actually making proper attempts with it

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:53 AM

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it really benefits from being 4-5

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Since you said it was your first sword hammer, i believe it was probably good because it was low to no heat

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:54 AM

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yeah I don't think I even beat meg by that point

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:54 AM

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but it gets absolutely terrible once you can just die in one hit at first health

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And it reduces all items that increase your health by 70% as well so you're lucky to get to 100

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:55 AM

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its cheap to max gua yu

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:55 AM

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yeah

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:55 AM

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in my attempts with guan yu I think by the end I was at about 120 health total

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:56 AM

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so feel free to max it so its only reduce 50%

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:56 AM

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I dont have the blood yet

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Its quite fun once maxed

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:56 AM

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I only got pact yesterday

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beating the final boss at all is quite new to me

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:56 AM

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take time mate the fun is behind

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feel the gameplay and story

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:57 AM

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The aspect of poseidon for the sword is very good for just level 1

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some of the other aspects are bad until later levels, but thats my favorite at 1 point

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:58 AM

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for me always nemesis

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:58 AM

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I ran it for like heats 1-13 or something

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Yeah nemesis is also strong at level 1

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:58 AM

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I think for 1 level my favorite is achilles

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Probably a reason why its the starting weapon

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 7:58 AM

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its the only way I can get through the final boss with varatha

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:59 AM

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chiron nemesis poseidon hestia

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Achilles spear eh?

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 7:59 AM

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varatha alway strong

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 8:00 AM

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the blink is quite good for me

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:00 AM

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If you want to grind easily, i'd recommend zeus attack rail as a starting point, but you'll probably have more fun just exploring builds

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:00 AM

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zag aspect make it fast as f

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:00 AM

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I haven't used achillles spear muc

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much

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 8:00 AM

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I do have max zagreus sword

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Mostly because it can put you in awkward spots

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:00 AM

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the shield is the strongest lul

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 8:01 AM

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shield is very good

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:01 AM

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blocking damaging

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I still do better with rail

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probably because I don't have the patience

snow rock Mar 3, 2020, 8:02 AM

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shield was first clear

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but rail was my first clear of meg

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first run using the rail was my first clear of meg and my first clear of the hydra

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:03 AM

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A lot of getting through early heats is unlocking mirror upgrades tbh

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and learning the attacks of the enemies

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:03 AM

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you know first thing of this game make me wanna play more?

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curious of the story line

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always wonder what is gonna be if i beat hades

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Yeah this game brings a lot of very well executed aspects together

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:04 AM

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first death to meg

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then death to lave

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the falling rock

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then hydra

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then butterfly

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Careful of spoilers btw, this channel seems to be pretty strict

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:04 AM

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then theseus

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then

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then

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then

delicate arrow Mar 3, 2020, 8:05 AM

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What

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:05 AM

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no spoiled only say that i die so much

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like zag

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:05 AM

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True

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:05 AM

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always cumming back

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:05 AM

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please spell it coming

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lol

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Buff ur Guanyu special speeddddddddddd

delicate arrow Mar 3, 2020, 8:06 AM

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No

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Buffer your special

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:06 AM

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idk if that was intentional or not but cumming and coming have vastly different meaning

delicate arrow Mar 3, 2020, 8:06 AM

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As in, dash while casting special

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:07 AM

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?

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definitely grab 30% special speed if you see it and are running guan yu

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or if you are running a different aspect but have explosive shot

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:08 AM

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only use special to get more hangover stack

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lul

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:09 AM

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If I have zag aspect spear and have explosive shot, I'm hoping for aphrodite special or artemis special

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:09 AM

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use zeus

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:09 AM

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for spear special?

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:10 AM

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yes

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:10 AM

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I prefer zeus on faster attacking weapons, but maybe if i had chain skewer

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:10 AM

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aoe damage

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u will see with explosive special

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:10 AM

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how does that interaction work exactly

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:10 AM

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the damage with zeus special is insane

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1 lightning strike per hit

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:11 AM

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every enemy hit with the spear is also hit with an aoe lightning bolt

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:11 AM

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it deal like 100 or more

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everyfoe hit

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1 lightning strike

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:11 AM

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So each lightning bolt hits all enemies essentially?

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idk, i'd still prefer high special damage increase with aphrodite or higher crit chance with artemis (and heart rend...) for the final boss

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:12 AM

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when u hit 1 foe with special its deal 1 lightning strike

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:13 AM

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But if the explosion hits 4 enemies

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do all of the lightning bolts hit all of the enemies?

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:13 AM

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1 lightning strike deal 200 radius daamge

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4 of them got 4 lightning

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I see

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:13 AM

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each deal 200

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Sounds great for room clearing, but i'd be concerned about damage on the boss

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:14 AM

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u see

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with the speed u yhave

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lightning always strike

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:14 AM

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I know but even 200 damage a bolt isn't ideal against the final boss, at least at higher difficulties

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I'm looking for those 1k damage crits

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in aoe

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:15 AM

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you will see man its not about crit or damage

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its easy to get

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like really easy

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you dont need any duo

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but still deal too much damage for bosses and clearing

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:16 AM

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idk, maybe the interaction isn't how im imagining it, but then again i've also never tried that particular combination

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:16 AM

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need to try it man

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Are you talking about the special or the charged attack?

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:17 AM

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special

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:17 AM

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zeus special, daedalus explosive shot

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which aspect

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:17 AM

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zag

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:17 AM

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mkay ill try it and let you know what I think

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I have to do it at 14 heat because im on hell mode and they wont let you do it for less than you've accomplished

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Forced zeus with the keepsake and got epic special; good start.

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Now I pray for explosive shot

civic prism Mar 3, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Man, ||screw Hadies. Dude's on the brink of death just full 180s lmfao||

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Had to abandon the zeus special for artemis heroic

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 8:57 AM

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feel that

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Got charged skewer and vicious skewer, nice crits

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 9:01 AM

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i got blackout and 8 hang over

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and my hangover lv 10

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and it epic

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 9:02 AM

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lol i dont think ive actually ever had anything past level 6

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 9:02 AM

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3 embrosa

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1 eury

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Mostly because the drop off for high levels is bad

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but I can see how it happens

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Get sweet nectar

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 9:03 AM

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wrong

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nectar

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 9:03 AM

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no i mean sweet nectar the duo boon

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 9:03 AM

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omg alway wrong between to

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 9:03 AM

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but also getting nectar

warm dove Mar 3, 2020, 9:03 AM

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3 nectar act 1 and 3 act 2 make it lv 6

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lul

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1 eu make it 7

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and 3 more upgrade

primal whale Mar 3, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Ive had that happen and I had the boon that gives you life with it as well

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ended up with like 550 hp

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Had the increase max hp from pick ups as well from chaos

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My artemis spear is critting for 1k and its 65% chance from the back if crit chance is additive