#h1-discussion

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lusty stump
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will it have the same drops as the previous run considering the seed stays the same?

novel wasp
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Lol

lusty stump
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because I am feeling like doing Poseidon aspect sword 32 heat run

brisk trail
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The first boon, at least.

novel wasp
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so anyone knows how to mod the game so that it can drop only 1 god's boon?

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i wanna make a video of aphrodite only run

brisk trail
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There's a Hades modding Discord server, I think I saw someone post about it in #self-promotion

novel wasp
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thanks

flat vapor
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the seed stays the same, but rewards will branch out if you go to different rooms

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plus there's a lot of minor rng manipulation you could accidently do as well

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@lusty stump

lusty stump
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did try, but the run completely changed past the second chamber

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should have kept the heat on 9

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had a good set up of Poseidon cast, Zeus dash, Aphrodite special and Demeter damage boost if you don't have casts.

sharp cliff
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🙂

brisk trail
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Oh boy.

lusty stump
deep pivot
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I have a question about stacking slows. I have Demeter’s Chill (slow up to 40%) + Killing Freeze (20% slow if all enemies are chilled) + Epic Numbing Sensation (enemies are 33% slower if they have hangover). Does that mean I can make them up to 93% slower or is there a cap?

pine magnet
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Anybody has some Zagreus or Hades gif ?

raw swan
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What if....

Charon is actually willing to take Zagreus back to the surface but he doesn't because Zag doesn't stop mocking his manner of speaking?

coral axle
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i'm pretty sure zag doesn't mock charon

fallow laurel
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Hello :3 is trading the Elyssian bottle thing for titan blood a good idea?

mint marlin
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Not really

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The ambrosia will become super useful later on

coral axle
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you can buy titan blood from styx shop and you get 2 per heat

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while you can't get ambrosia other than trading

mint marlin
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and you will already be getting way more titan blood then ambrosia

coral axle
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unless you're totally stocked up on ambrosia, i'd say no

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and by then you usually should get enough of both already

fallow laurel
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I see..

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Are there uses for the ambroisa now?

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Or it will be useful in future updates?

mint marlin
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its for companions

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Im guessing you havent gotten to that stage of the game yet

fallow laurel
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Damn..

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I thought I saw all there was before the updates

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Nice to know there are more

safe sand
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How to get the role of "Hades"?

plush dagger
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go to #bot-commands and write ''rank Hades'' with a question mark at the beginning

safe sand
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Cool, thx : 3

tribal sapphire
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@fallow laurel eventually you won't be able to do anything with Ambrosia in the current patch; and if you're upgrading all the weapons- you'll need way more Titan Blood than Ambrosia currently

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but by continually playing higher heat runs, you'll get double the amount of Titan Blood than Ambrosia.

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If you think you want the big guns first while you're waiting on fuller releases, I would say wait until you finish gifting Dusa stuff and then you're kinda free to trade in Ambrosia for Titan Blood as you see fit

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oh, worth noting that you'll also get items that Ambrosia upgrades too though, so if you're trying to max THOSE out too; maybe chill out on trading Ambrosia there until you've got what you want upgraded

fallow laurel
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Thank you! @tribal sapphire

mint marlin
soft cove
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Have people realized that zues shield is broken just hard to play

stoic quail
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I been saying that for long time. Zeus shield best shield but it has high skill cap

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I'm not exactly a top level player though so my opinion should be taken with pinch of salt 😄

calm laurel
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with the Trial of the Gods if you lost to the "betrayed" god does their hearts deplete

ebon rivet
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not to my (fairly limited) knowledge

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it's jsut supposed to be a downside fro getting two blessings in one room afaik

proud orbit
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Nothing long lasting happens

calm laurel
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ah, k

dapper flume
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It could be broken, but not when there are easier more broken things you can do with less skill

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Doesn’t take much to charge and find charge speed and size upgrades for the special spear.

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And the magically the game beats itself lol

carmine pecan
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meg ayayaya looks cute as huck

latent wind
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How many days are left until next update?

calm laurel
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18

sharp cliff
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so, question for anyone who's gotten sisyphus done (spoilering so if you haven't you can avoid it) || Is there something specific I need to do to get the contract to spawn with the contractor? I've talked to Meg, have him and bouldy at both max affection, but can't get any text about it from Hades or the thing to spawn from the contractor. Do I need to get specific lines from Sisyphus enough after talking to Meg about to get dialogue with Hades and then the contractor will have it, or did I somehow break something? ||

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dusAYAYA megAYAYA a dusa and meg cute for anyone who might be able to help

jade grove
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They should make it so that, if you buy the disco ball for the lounge, Theseus also gets one for his fight.

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Just to make the third biome Disco Elysium.

remote lily
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Make Theseus to dab when he win and there will be the disco ball then xd 😂

jade grove
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you die when he wins tho

remote lily
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The game is 100% scripted

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This can be scripted to show him after the death animation

worthy egret
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Anyone have an image of Zag where he's like :/ you know the one

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I need it for text post meme purposes

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Nevermind found it

opal mason
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So I had a couple questions about the pact since I just unlocked it. Whats the easiest start into it and if you go at it at ranks higher than you need, do the bounties below it stack?

oblique tulip
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I personally did the damage increase. If you almost never take damage it's rarely an inconvenience

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Besides on hydra D:<

opal mason
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Oh no, I take lots of damage

jade grove
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The bounties do not stack

vernal wagon
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personally I take the boss one

opal mason
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I needed all 4 dd's plus god mode to beat my first round

oblique tulip
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Also they dont but you can go on lower heats to get those rewards if you want

jade grove
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you're just abusing the heat gauge for no real reason

vernal wagon
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cause if you take it at level 1, then really all it means is that the fury fight is a bit harder

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but everything else is just like a standard run

jade grove
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@oblique tulip "if you almost never take damage" heh nice joke :p

oblique tulip
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If I'm going shield I never have to use dd

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Provided I also have butterfly and a build that shreds mobs with little effort

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To be fair though

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I'm not high on heat

opal mason
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I actually beat it with rail for my first time

oblique tulip
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It might be way different later on~

jade grove
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well, if you're good enough to use butterfly, your experience is completely unlike those of us who get shredded and come out of fights with <25% health

oblique tulip
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I can stack butterfly relative consistently if I'm not doing a dash build or if I have deflect on bow b4 I get to hydra

jade grove
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hell of a lot better player than me then, lul

oblique tulip
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W/ dash builds I always mess up in asp because i briefly dash into the lava long enough to take one point of damage :/

jade grove
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lul

oblique tulip
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Tbf it's easier for me to use butterfly if I'm doing a special spear or special rail run

jade grove
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me in Extreme Hydra: lose 80% of health to dashing into lava and dashing into heads

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galaxy brain

viral flicker
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is it just me or is the fishing kinda hard? I've tried like 15 times but always messing it up

jade grove
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it is

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it's like 0.3 or 0.6 seconds or something

viral flicker
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okay good to know

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dang

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they should make it a little bit easier in the next patch, it would be a more relaxing break during the attempts

oblique tulip
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A little advice with that is that I found that most fish wont go for a bite on the first try

viral flicker
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oh okay cool

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thanks

oblique tulip
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Bites also have a slightly different animation where they make a splash

viral flicker
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ohhh really

oblique tulip
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Test bites (aka fool bites) just dip slightly

viral flicker
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next time ill just watch for a long time haha

oblique tulip
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A lot of it is reflexes tho

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I feel like i have pgood reflexes just from playing stepmania

jade grove
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I have pretty bad/inconsistent ones.

oblique tulip
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This game is actually really forgiving in a way reflexes wise

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Enter the gungeon is

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Worse i wanna say

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But it's not easy either

viral flicker
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yeah I wasn't as much of a fan as enter the gungeon

oblique tulip
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*Hades isnt easy

viral flicker
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normally i hate these type of rogue like repeating games

jade grove
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I mean... Gungeon is hard as nails, it's not exactly a fair comparison

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Hades can be pretty tough.

viral flicker
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but Hades actually has a good feeling of progression and great story in my opinion

jade grove
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Above average standards bias :^)

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:p

oblique tulip
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Yeah hades has more replayability compared to a lot of other roguelikes i've played

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The best part is, is that it's solo oriented

knotty epoch
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how many roguelites aren't solo oriented

proud orbit
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there are a few

knotty epoch
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I just think it's a little weird to say when majority of them are

viral flicker
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hades has a really nice desktop shortcut logo haha

oblique tulip
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RoR2 comes to mind

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mostly

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like i loved ror1

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but the fact ror2 just feels better as a party game is just kinda eh to me

agile saddle
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@viral flicker if u are using a controller, when a fish bites it will vibrate.

fluid jacinth
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ror 2 is pretty fun

lusty stump
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if I find a misspelling (in English version) do I just report it via F10?

jade grove
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Yes

tawny patio
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@viral flicker if u are using a controller, when a fish bites it will vibrate.
@agile saddle I play with a DS4 controller and fake bites make controller vibrate, too.

viral flicker
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Yep I am

proper zodiac
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tuddybutfast the new update is in 2 weeks

lusty stump
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pretty close! Wonder if there will be a trailer for it

silk warren
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So cool to see that im not the only one enjoying this awesome game! This discord is bustling :)
I wondered if there is a spot with collected known issues or bugs etc.?

tawny patio
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There isn't. But it seems like a good idea for a wiki page though.

silk warren
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What's EA for if not for piling up work in one place 😋

tawny patio
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I believe the devs sure has some kind of issue tracker. But most issue trackers are not designed to be viewed publicly. And it's a lot of work to maintain a separate issue tracker for the public

lusty stump
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they probably have a database of every f10 ever

silk warren
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Yea, i've sat at both ends of this table and since then i check if my issue has been reported, before submitting it myself, or not. But makes sense its not public too. Thanks

runic herald
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Which bow aspect is better? Hera or chiron?

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I play with hera mostly but I’m starting to find chiron a bit more fun

tawny patio
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That's just, um, different play styles.

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I don't like Hera's Aspect simply because I find it less reliable. Also you can shoot Bloodstones out of bound, which is not fun.

jade grove
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What is the advantage of Hera, anyway?

tawny patio
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Detonates Dionysus' cast ASAP without a bachelor's degree of ballistics

lusty stump
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Hera also let's cast drop faster

jade grove
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Huh, okay. What happens if you have Hermes' boon to do that?

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How do they stack

lusty stump
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with Hermes apsect usually you get always 5 sec or 3.5 sec

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I think

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that's my experience with Hera

jade grove
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Huh

lusty stump
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but really, if you want to do cast build, could just do Poseidon's aspect of sword.

jade grove
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Don't they reduce it to the same value

lusty stump
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Hera bow isn't much good to say Chiron

oblique tulip
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hera is okay if you stack a bunch of artemis

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but so does poseidon so your choice honestly

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also, poseidon cast on hera too

deep pivot
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Poseidon’s Aspect increases the damage of the cast so I prefer it more than Hera’s (besides the point of bloodstones being out of bounds with Hera)

oblique tulip
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yeah that part of hera sucks

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it'd be better if they gave you reduced recall timer

jade grove
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Yeah, I'm struggling to see the main advantage of Hera, other than being a bit easier to hit Dio shots with

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Because what it does is basically identical to a Hermes boon.

lusty stump
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it's really just a free Hermes boon, which you would have gotten anyway tbh

oblique tulip
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they could make it so your casts apply on each arrow for attack or special

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with diminishing returns when a target gets hit by multiple

lusty stump
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thing is, compare it to say Poseidon's sword, the later is more likely to actually do something with the cast

tawny patio
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It should also work well with Aphrodite's / Ares' cast, making it work at a longer range.

oblique tulip
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aphro would work

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except it shoves your casts into the wall

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they're not far

lusty stump
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and it's less relied on the boons you get, since if you don't get right boons with hera, the run is kind of ruined

oblique tulip
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they're just hidden

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(though honestly it's really annoying)

tawny patio
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Yeah. Hope it gets fixed with the next patch

lusty stump
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Asphodel is just hell for cast builds.

oblique tulip
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yeah...

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it makes pierced harder to stack than it already does

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(in asp)

lusty stump
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if hera had a quick return to casts then yeah it can work as good as Poseidon sword, since it covers the "returning cast back" aspect that makes cast build so great.

oblique tulip
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it'd have to have it with the reduced drop timer though for it to viable

deep pivot
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If Hera recalled Casts quicker, it would be so much better + it would fix the out of bounds problem

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Like a mini Hermes legendary haha

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Like “Cast drop & recall timer: 5 seconds”

jade grove
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Yeah, agreed

deep pivot
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At rank 5

jade grove
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That would solidify its niche

tawny patio
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On a different topic: seeing that many questions of "how to fish", I just put all the info I gathered from various sources on the wiki: https://hades.gamepedia.com/Fishing

Hope this could be helpful.

deep pivot
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Cheers! 😊

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I need to catch 2 of Chaos’ fishies to get them all but 2% chance to the random Chaos gate chance (and another small % for the legendary) is just too low failbag

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Someday, maybe~

tawny patio
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Also, with the 10-rooms-between-fishing-spot condition, it's harder to find fishing spot in Chaos room among Tartarus while Tartarus has the highest chance to spawn its own fishing spot.

deep pivot
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So the best bet would be to find Chaos gates on Asphodel or Elysium and cross fingers

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I find it amusing that the legendary Chaos fish gives Ambrosia instead of Blood. I thought Blood would be more valuable but, then again, you only get 1 Ambrosia per bounty-run

warm dove
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guyssssss

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how many nectar i need to get ambrosa keepsake?
have no idea of the number

tawny patio
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As many as you can give out.

marsh jackal
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@warm dove you can open codex and check how many nectar you have to give to reach the locks on any given npc

brisk trail
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Anyone else say "Coin for Charon" whenever they toss money into a turnpike gate?

alpine stratus
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well now i will

spice thunder
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toss a coin to your Charon

modern garnet
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what does charon do with the coins anyway

alpine stratus
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chomp

delicate arrow
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As a Hera bow one trick, trying out Guan yu is so funny

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One shotting everything whilstbhealing all my hp back

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Tbf I did have Artemis attack and dash with heart rend , clean kill and double status effects on

narrow inlet
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how is Guan Yu's special different from the normal spear special? Is there a difference other than the lack of press-special-to-return? Description says "explosive" special but I'm not sure what that translates to

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Seems to be a wider hitbox as well, unless I'm imagining things

patent umbra
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Its a large wave of damage

deep pivot
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And fireworks 💥

narrow inlet
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as in, it does more damage as well? or more ticks of damage on a target?

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yeah the sound effect is pleasing

agile saddle
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ok i am super over the last boss skull spamming. just had one where they threw 7 at once. like one after the other

flat vapor
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it does damage over the flight path

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in an area, for a pretty high amount too

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it's basically a long cylinder of damage that can get crazy high with the right upgrades

narrow inlet
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how does "over the flight path" differ from normal? doesn't the spear always deal damage all along the throw path?

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it doesn't seem like a hitscan-type ability, if that's what you mean

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Agh. I should have expected that Charged Skewer would be the same as the charged special volley for the bow. The gimped range without charge would be less bad if it were indicated properly in-game.

flat vapor
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the main draw is that it's in an area for high damage

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imagine explosive launcher except the aoe damage happens along the whole path rather than just at the end

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regular spear special does damage on the flight path, but only along the spear (i.e. very narrow) and easy to miss, for less damage as well

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you can throw guan yu between two enemies and still hit them both for 75 dmg

narrow inlet
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ah - so it's higher damage along with higher range. got it, thanks!

flat vapor
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here's a quick diagram i made in mspaint

narrow inlet
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Yeah, should have said wider range. Got it, thanks 🙂

flat vapor
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👍

narrow inlet
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so uh... this guan yu build turned into a cast build accidentally

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3 legendaries, 2 duos... 60% cast speed with 6 ice wine'd heavily bursty casts, along with a charged skewer high level aphro special. dash and attack stacked chill further, which burst for decent damage as well. this was madness

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also, just realized that half of my 26 clears have been a part of this 13 win streak. things have been so, so much smoother after switching to controller for me

novel wasp
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@flat vapor its called bigger hurtbox lol

jade grove
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@narrow inlet Ice Wine is Nice Wine.

novel wasp
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angry grandma

jade grove
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Also, controller is better for melee, but KBM is far superior for rail...

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Because you can strafe and aim your bombs

narrow inlet
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I’ve found controller far better for both melee and non-rail ranged (for me).

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Rail I don’t feel as good with... so I just force attack or rocket builds on it instead to keep playing on the controller lol

jade grove
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Yeah agreed, but I will switch for rail because I love it

novel wasp
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i love keyboard mouse tho

agile saddle
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I use controller

sleek juniper
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Controller; it's much better to move around and much better to dodge. But for attacking; MK is superior. That's my experience so far. I played controller 2 hours and MK for 100 hours.

vocal thorn
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I’m ok with using a controller with the rail, because if something is moving around so much that it’s difficult to aim the special with the controller, then it’s probably moving so much that it won’t get hit by the special regardless of it’s aimed well

primal whale
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Yeah I feel like the decision between MK and controller is pretty dependent on whether you want to play offensively or defensively. I prefer the controller because I feel like dodging damage is more important than the extra precision.

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In fact I encourage everyone to give both a shot and see what works best. You may find that one is a lot better for you than the other and things will become easier

stable forge
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lol the game just crashed

desert nebula
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When I use Athena's dash boon and her Combo Boon with Ares, I somehow fail to trigger Doom by dashing through foes. Is this by design, am I missing something?

flat vapor
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it should work

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hitbox might be more narrow than you think

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or a bug

desert nebula
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hmm, I will try again and watch closely

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thanks tho

jade grove
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I feel like the Rail benefits more from MK depending on which aspect and hammers you use.

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Namely: If you use Eris, the one target you should always aim to hit first is yourself, and Controller cannot do that easily due to autotarget.

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Hestia needs it less because auto targeting is beneficial for the railgun.

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Meanwhile, Cluster Bomb is massively superior on KBM, because you have effortless switching between carpet bombing and saturated bombardment (the latter being also in front of your face).

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Also unique to rail is the ability to strafe fire with the primary attack, so KBM wins even defensively.

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I personally struggle with melee weapons on keyboard though, and bow doesn't really have any handling traits I would prefer it for.

brisk trail
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I tried playing this game with controller and I felt it was uncomfortable for me. I've always played this game with just keyboard and find it quite easy.

vocal thorn
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On high heat, I don’t think the keyboard would help me with the default special. I can’t imagine being able to target myself with the special, and then continue standing there until after the special lands. It sounds very unsafe, and I’d probably get whacked by enemy attacks if I was standing still for that long. It would be much better for me to just press the special button, and then dash under the targeted circle right before it lands.

jade grove
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I mean... that's also easier to do with keyboard, I figure, because on controller you can only target the things that are trying to kill you unless you hide.

stoic quail
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watch my language? what was the bad word? curse? or dam?

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the language bot seems to be a little over-zealous

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or was it because I was talking about the google algorithms tracking me down? big brother shutting me down

alpine stratus
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no, it was the curse words. please keep clean language here!

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for the record, it was flagged for the s word specifically

stoic quail
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did I say that? I don't even remember. It just a natural part of how I talk haha. Well, sorry.

deep pivot
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Stay fluffy 🐯

novel wasp
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is it just me or triple shot is really meh

burnt breach
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it is

brisk trail
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Is there a new character on the game or something ? I see that I'm missing an item in the keepsakes but I can't figure out to who I didn't give a nectar

lusty stump
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Can you show what's the missing item?

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or well more to be clear what slot is it

brisk trail
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Very last one

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After the Demeter one

lusty stump
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oh that must be Chaos then

brisk trail
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I'm almost sure I already gave it to Chaos yesterday tho at the same time as Sisyphus

lusty stump
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hm well then need a screenshot of the keepsakes' inventory, since it seems the ones that aren't unlocked end up last.

brisk trail
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I don't have chaos there I know that but I'm almost sure I gave a nectar to him yesterday

lusty stump
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Huh odd. Cosmic egg should be there if you did give them nectar. Unless it didn't save and the run was no more.

brisk trail
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Probably that yeah

high coral
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What do people think the next weapon will be?
Have there been hints I've missed?

plush dagger
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no hints, the only thing we know is the release date

high coral
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Any guesses or wishes?

plush dagger
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the most popular are a ranged weapon like a crossbow or throwing knives, a fast-paced melee weapon like fists or daggers, or a slow weapon with superarmor/slight invulnerability like hammer or scythe

proud orbit
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Guess is probably ranged

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I'm imagining a staff

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As in a magic one

high coral
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A staff would be cool

proud orbit
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But that's unsubstantiated

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I can't think of anything distinct to what we have already ranged aside from that

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Probably a charge weapon

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Laser attack, charged blast for special

high coral
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A staff could have so many cool possibilities. But as keeper said, a fast pace weapon would be awesome as well

proud orbit
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But it almost ends up just being another version of the rail like that

high coral
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True

proud orbit
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I'm too creatively bankrupt to think of anything unique lol

high coral
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Maybe a club or something. Plenty of characters have wielded some variety of blunt weapon

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But it could end up too close to the sword

plush dagger
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I mean they can work around that, currently the game doesn't have anything similar to superarmor/invulnerability, and since the game only gets faster and faster, superarmor is probably a good way to make a slow weapon work

high coral
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A weapon where each hit is a commitment does sound interesting

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Big swings, could have stun on the special.

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Though, after talking with you lot, I kinda like the concept of a magic staff more 🙂

plush dagger
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I mean it doesn't have to be a staff to be magic

proud orbit
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Relying on super armor is gonna be bad for any heat above like 5

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High commitment attacks are in the game already actually

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Spear spin attack and it sucks because it requires such a commitment

plush dagger
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people make Guan Yu aspect work on 32 heat, and its charge ability doesn't even have any sort of invulnerability

proud orbit
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That's because it heals you

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Also because its ranged, and you can fire it through walls

plush dagger
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think about sword special

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it goes through even if you get it, but instead of losing half your hp you'd be fine

brisk trail
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What about a magic Trident like Poseidon one ?

plush dagger
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I don't think it's a bad idea

proud orbit
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What about sword special?

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It can be cancelled by enemy damage

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And it is also not very good because of it

plush dagger
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only at the start of it afaik

proud orbit
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Partway through as well, becusee there's also a point where you can accidentally cancel it yourself which is annoying for dash spammers like me

plush dagger
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instead of being a 'magic staff' it could also be just Zagreus' inherent god abilities

proud orbit
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That's also cool

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Any kind of magic focus

plush dagger
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that's one way to make it fit in the story

proud orbit
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Or a blood based weapon

plush dagger
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you can cancel special with dash? I thought it only made you use your special as soon as you stop dashing

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at least that's what I get when I use special+dash

proud orbit
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Maybe it was basic attack then

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I don't play sword much but I'm pretty sure it's cancellable in some way

plush dagger
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I see

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I'm trying to imagine how a magic/god powers weapon would work but I can't think of anything that hasn't been done already

proud orbit
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I was thinking a charged ball which can be charged while moving

plush dagger
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The special should definitely be his ''Call'' for example, but what would it be? Zagreus is supposedly ||The God of Blood/Life|| , but I don't think it can be something directly related to his HP

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What would Zagreus' Call be like?

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what if his special didn't directly do damage, but instead binds 2 or more enemies, so if one of them is hit, the rest of them take a percentage of that damage

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that'd be new... I think?

karmic oasis
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I think a callback to Bastion's Bellows would be fun. A short range ranged weapon. We pretty much have everything else from that game. It would also match Zag's fiery disposition.

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I have 0 idea how it would work in actuality though lol

jade grove
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@proud orbit A staff would be very very easy to make unique. Splitting projectiles, which is actually what happens with staves in game.

proud orbit
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Like the elysium ones yeah

jade grove
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Actually @karmic oasis that's a great idea as well.

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Bellows? Easy aspect - Hephaestus

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Another one: Aeolus or something

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Aspect of Aeolus, allows you to blow enemies around and deflect projectiles... Hephaestus, something to do with molten metal, acts like those fireballs maybe.

sharp parcel
#

how short are we talking?

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like the shotgun rail short?

brisk trail
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Is the version number in any way indicative of the amount of content that is intended to be in the release version?

tawny patio
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If I have to guess, the now-five-digit version number is just the number of SVN commits.

karmic oasis
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I imagine the bellows to have a shorter range than the rail gun yes.

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rail gun hammer that makes it shorter*

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the base attack would be easy (stream of fire in the direction you are facing), with maybe an ammo limit, maybe it slows your walk so you can keep pressure on (unlike rail). Maybe the damage increases the longer the attack is held, but reload from zero takes longer. Honestly, I am not sure what I would do with special, because the bow and sword have a nova-ish effect already, rail has the bomb. Maybe a straight forward fireball like projectile that penetrates? But then again that's too similar to a large degree of casts. Thats where my imagination ends. I just imagine burninating through Tartarus and my mind stops worrying about stuff like "how will this actually work" after that.

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@jade grove Actually your Aspect of Aeolus would be a cool special move for it, another defensive weapon to go with the shield on top of being a "ranged" weapon. A bit more twitchy than the static defense of the shield.

jade grove
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Spin special

karmic oasis
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Oooh, or it could plant napalm mines

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though that would also be a cool aspect change

jade grove
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Aeolus aspect: Changes it to a force blast of wind

karmic oasis
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turn it from pyro to demoman ll

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lol*

lusty stump
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this run is really only great for crowd control, but not bosses

deep pivot
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RIP

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When Artemis and Ares give you boons but Ares doesn’t want to give you his cast

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Worse, when he does give you his cast but they keep trolling you into not giving you Hunting Blades

jade grove
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I literally just had a run like that.

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Trying to get that legendary...

lusty stump
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I really want to get hunting blades, really only thing that I haven't gotten yet for duo boons

jade grove
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I mean, I got it, but Hunting Blades spawned in Styx and made the Theseus fight miserable

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Hunting Blades is just such a pain to get, because if you're not lucky and only have slicing shot to rely on, your run is boned

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I figure at this point, start with Artemis instead of Ares.

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Because at least if you get a crit attack or special and nothing else, you're not helplessly relying on just slicing shot for a biome

lusty stump
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you have to have Artemis for something except the cast and ares for cast, right?

jade grove
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Yes

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I did Ares start, had only bloody Slicing Shot for all of Tartarus and half of Asphodel.

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Never again.

lusty stump
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what I learnt is that once you have picked your Ares position be it blades or doom, the second won't show up or at least if it does it's very unlikely.

jade grove
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Yeah, I noticed...

lusty stump
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also about to throw the run (hopefully) at the final boss, I am not going to stand around, but I will hope this ends sooner or later, because this amount of damage pains me.

jade grove
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therefore, start with artemis, don't cripple your starting

lusty stump
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I swear if I somehow win this, I don't know anymore

deep pivot
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@lusty stump I recommend you get Slicing Shot + Artemis’ dash or Call (and fill your attack, special with other gods’ boons)

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With that, Artemis won’t be offering you her other boons that need progression

jade grove
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Oh, that's a good idea

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Does Poseidon sword buff the blade cast @deep pivot

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Or does it only work on embeds?

deep pivot
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It should empower the ticks

jade grove
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So you just slam special and get shreddier blades?

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Neat

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I'd say that works

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Also Eris rail with shotgun dio attack

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or shotgun demeter, actually, with cryoblasting

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shotgun demeter would benefit from the +damage stack on arty dash by a lot

deep pivot
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Oh, the special just dislodges the cast. When you cast the shot, the shots damage already have the damage bonus

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No need to Special prior to casting

jade grove
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wait what, it's literally a passive 50%?

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TIL

deep pivot
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Yeah

jade grove
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no wonder people like it

deep pivot
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Yeah. Poseidon aspect is my go to for Cast builds

lusty stump
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quick question.
Is titan's blood okay to trade for 250 gemstones?

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because so far I have stuff I wanted upgraded already on that line, just wondering.

deep pivot
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Totally okay

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Unless you already leveled all your aspects

jade grove
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Hm?

deep pivot
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Remember that there are still future aspects to be unveiled so you might want to have a good supple of bloods just in case

jade grove
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If you're SELLING titan blood

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uh, probably not worth it.

deep pivot
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Ooohh

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Selling blood for gemstones then it’s a pass from me

jade grove
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for gems is a bit of a meme unless you have a massive blood bank and all aspects

lusty stump
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okay time to roll back then

coral axle
#

trading anything for gems is a big meme imo

jade grove
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keep in mind you'd need 31 blood for the new weapon at LEAST

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36 if the zag is actually good

coral axle
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if you do all gem troves you'll eventually wind up with a crap ton of gems

jade grove
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and then another 15 for whatever new aspect debuts

coral axle
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and it's pretty easy to get gems now with fishing

jade grove
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just ask for help from uncle poseidon

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swag daddy's got your back

deep pivot
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Thank goodness they put fishing rewards

coral axle
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a stonewal is like 150 gems

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scuffers are 40

deep pivot
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I dont remember who mentioned it but combining Sunken Treasure and his other loot boon together into 1 boon would be much better

coral axle
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it's pretty easy to farm gems now so personally i wouldn't trade away titan blood for gems

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i also do all gem troves

deep pivot
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Besides, Blood serves a more practical use while gems are merely for esthetics

jade grove
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Sunken Treasure and that together would be a little nuts, tbh. You'd guarantee the boosted lootsplosion on that same pull

coral axle
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you don't boost the lootsplosion

jade grove
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that said, if you're farming, you can take sunken multiple times if it shows up afaik

coral axle
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it's only room rewards

jade grove
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oh, huh, right

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I guess

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I suppose that'd be a neat buff actually

lusty stump
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man imagine if there was a boon that would double the effect of all other boons

coral axle
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the splosion is kinda crap as well unless you have a lot of darkness boosting boons

jade grove
deep pivot
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I only take that loot boon when other Poseidon options are uuuh

jade grove
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yeah same

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when the other options are bigger memes

coral axle
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well i'll take sunken treasure over wave pounding anyday

lusty stump
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Is Dio's special on chaos shield meh?

jade grove
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no

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it's one of the old meta setups

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aphro/dio deeps time

coral axle
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pretty strong

lusty stump
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okay tried it out

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my expectations were quite low considering I didn't count how many times special hits the enemy with doom on top of it.

coral axle
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eh, i personally always use the same few builds for high heat

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it's pretty much necessary because most other combos are just not that good

broken dragon
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What amount of heat is considered high? I am new to the game.

jade grove
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20/32

broken dragon
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Oh, wow. I am just getting to 5 heat. That is a ways off.

coral axle
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personally i'd say anything from 15-20+ can be considered high in general

broken dragon
#

Good to know. Thanks.

proper zodiac
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what yall think the final weapon gon be?

alpine stratus
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please say scythe...................

analog elbow
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wooden sandals for sure

jade grove
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S T A F F

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magic magic magic

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also floating while attacking so you can move, pls

analog elbow
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do you know when the teaser trailer usually comes out?

lusty stump
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quick question. Is Demeter wrath worse than Artemis's wrath?

loud spire
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I like it, it's got a huge AoE

lusty stump
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as in the god's trial room

loud spire
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@analog elbow I'm just sitting here like, "... y'all got any more of that [HADES UPDATE INFORMATION] ?"

analog elbow
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hahaha oh yea

loud spire
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ohhh I see, nevermind then :-p

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if you're using a melee weapon, demeter often ruins my life, and the reverse is true with ranged weapons for artemis

jade grove
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Eh?

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Why so?

loud spire
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demeter's wrath puts those vortexes underneath enemies so it's hard to get in range of them with the sword without taking a ton of damage. and IIRC artemis has those fast moving circles that basically track you, so standing still at a distance with the bow is tough

jade grove
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Oh, wrath, right

lusty stump
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okay demeter wasn't that bad as I expected and thankfully reacted in time.

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also thanks for the recommendations on Artemis/Ares build! Haven't gotten hunting blades yet but I got combination of Ravenous Will, Quick Reload, Slicing Shot, Fully Loaded and Black Metal.

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and Snow Burst.

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and dual shot

jade grove
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Nice.

lusty stump
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I GOT IT

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I GOT THE HUNTING BLADES

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Finally

jade grove
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yeet

south tusk
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well dang 1st time i cleared with dd's left and not just 1 but 2/3 , didnt lose one on final boss

lusty stump
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Yeet indeed.

deep pivot
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I just had an idea for a Dionysus + Artemis duo boon. Since Dionysus is about being drunk and Artemis about precision and criticals, their Duo boon would be Drunken Aim: “Everytime any attack fails to crit (if it has a critical chance), raise it’s crit chance by 1%. Stacks are lost once a critical hits.”

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It would be funny 😆

jade grove
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lmao

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I would unironically like that

deep pivot
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Woo! You did it! 🎉

lusty stump
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oh boy, I have 100th attempt soon

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3 attempts left

latent gulch
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oh dang I've just passed 50 myself.

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Does anyone have any tips for filling out boons for certain gods? I got most of them through natural gameplay. But I can't seem to get some final ones for Zeus, Athena, Artemis and Dionysus.
I've even looked up which boons I need to get to the ones I'm still missing. And I just never seem to get enough boons offered from the one god I'm going for to get to the ones I'm missing.

lusty stump
latent gulch
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Thank you very much.
However I've already found some of these charts on the wikia? I looked up how to get them.
I just never seem to actually encounter that particular god often enough. Or they don't offer me the boons.
And I've tried at least ten separate runs now? I've lost count.

serene yarrow
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I encountered a bug the other day, and took a screenshot, but didn't realize there was a bug report in game. Is there a way to use an old screenshot for the bug report instead of it taking a new one?

deep pivot
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@serene yarrow As far as I know, no

latent gulch
vagrant flint
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Do revenge boons work if you're invincible?

serene yarrow
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Does the Eris aspect buff refresh if you get hit with the blast while already buffed? Or does it have to run out first?

vagrant flint
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It refreshes.

radiant tangle
#

It refreshes

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I think Raging Rush is the only kind of buff like that which doesn't refresh

vagrant flint
#

It doesn't?

radiant tangle
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Not since I last checked, no

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Since it's based on uses, not on time

analog elbow
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@jade grove there is some incentive to kill enemies in challenge rooms as they have a chance to drop gold. I always go for them.

jade grove
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not enough, imo

analog elbow
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but enough to matter, for me every bit helps cause there are times when i'm 5obols short

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i used to destroy the pillars before hand as well for a bit of gold lol

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maybe it'd be cooler if enemies became stronger the more the timer was closer to running out

jade grove
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eh, that'd just make you run away harder

analog elbow
#

yea

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get the blood pumping

jade grove
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no, I want a real reason to fight

analog elbow
#

that's the point of those i feel

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to get overrun

jade grove
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not just a random chance of "how good is this room for cheesing them"

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well the game's atmosphere suggests you should fight back

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the game mechanics do nothing to make you

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or if you do, you get nothing from it

analog elbow
#

eh.. true

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i mean the same could be said for than

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you can easily get overrun in some of the rooms

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for a centaur heart

jade grove
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it's something

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and if you get a huge lead you can piss off and wait

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at the bare minimum it's a symbolic something

humble pulsar
#

i feel the gold offered is honestly reason enough, making the rooms more difficult would actually just discourage me from attacking the enemies, cause rooms have a "maximum amount" of enemies that can appear in them, or at least they appear to, and that's usually not hard to dodge.

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But since a theoretically infinite number of enemies spawn within the time, killing as many as possible means I can earn lots of obols and still buy something in Tartarus without necessarily needing an obol room.

jade grove
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I didn't suggest making them harder...

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I suggested making it a bit better to kill them, rather than just the RNG chance of obols

deep pivot
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Pear just read my mind. I love to shop and killing enemies for extra obol is a bit of an incentive (unless I’m not liking my current build, then I just wait lol)

wispy lodge
#

I was wondering, what's the extent of the Demeter dialogue? I got to when she talks about Kore, but then it stopped. Is there just nothing else for now?

jade grove
#

Spoilers

brisk trail
#

This game helps me work through my own father issues without expensive therapy. Thanks SG!shadesmile

gray sigil
#

dusAYAYA greetings allmegAYAYA

stark ridge
#

Is there a reason why Piercing Wave (from sword) doesn't apply on-hit effects? Would that be too broken? I've never done a good run around piercing wave unfortunately

serene yarrow
#

Has anyone ever had a run where they got 5 Death Defiance from 5 different sources at once?

brisk trail
#

Only seen a screenshot of it.

serene yarrow
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I don't know why, but I'm trying to do that.

narrow inlet
#

wellp. set up a heat/keepsake build for poseidon sword, accidentally picked the rail.

serene yarrow
#

If you quit in the middle of a run, does Steam not sync it?

narrow inlet
#

it already saved my progress unfortunately

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I also picked artemis attack, which may not be ideal on rail. RIP

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ah well, let's see how I can make this work

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as for 5 DDs - someone mentioned getting 6 DDs

merry harbor
#

If you take damage in a room and select Give Up, it puts you back at the House and keeps the starting room layouts, so if you wanted to, you could go back and try with sword.

narrow inlet
#

I think I'd lose my ~15 win streak though, which I'd be sad about

merry harbor
#

Nope!

narrow inlet
#

wait, what? really?

merry harbor
#

Yeah, Idunno why? But it doesn't.

narrow inlet
#

is "give up" an option on the pause screen? I've never seen it

serene yarrow
#

I was asking about Steam syncing because I'd quit in the middle of a run, and if I changed computers, I can't resume that run from there.

merry harbor
#

Found out on accident when I forgot to switch back to butterfly once and it just. stayed

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It only shows mid encounter if you've taken damage that room. After completing it it goes away, but that's easily solved by going next room and eating a hit.

serene yarrow
#

But I can resume the run if I don't swap computers.

merry harbor
#

It's actually surprising it DOESN'T take off the win streak, but I don't like to use that to keep them. feels kinda cheap, y'know

narrow inlet
#

well would ya look at that! thanks 🙂

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yeah, I feel like it should disrupt the win streak

#

this means you can reroll that first boon until you get something you want from a keepsake god, maybe? or is that seeded?

serene yarrow
#

I think it's always the same boons. But you could reroll for different Chaos boons

narrow inlet
#

ah, definitely the same boons, yeah

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attack/special/dashstrike from artemis in a cast build

merry harbor
#

Seeds change by changing uh, god keepsakes, leaving the room, and coming back in then switching back, but I never looked into seeding too hard?

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A speedrunner would be better about that.

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But if you don't do that the seed stays the same.

narrow inlet
#

I got that on my first run with rail, second run was sword with wrong keepsake (when I gave up it switched it), third run with correct sword and keepsake gave same options as the first run

#

all three options are epic. but I want none of them!

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attack is the least problematic, I guess

serene yarrow
#

This game is addicting. I got it exactly 1 month ago, and already put in 105 hours.

humble pulsar
#

kinda wish EGS put how much time you've played a game like Steam does but given runs take about 20-40 minutes and I've done likely around 200 of them (some of them I've done on saves which weren't "permanent" so I don't have access to them) I'd say I've probably put close to 100 hours in this game.

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but granted that's been over a year

narrow inlet
#

I keep my game on overnight in the background, so my "time played" is all off

proud orbit
#

EGS does have time played tho iirc

humble pulsar
#

does it? I'm just blind and missed it then

#

it didn't when I first bought the game and in all fairness I didn't really bother to look for it cause I didn't really care lol

narrow inlet
#

does anyone know how long Chill lasts? can't sem to find the info on the wiki

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nevermind, found it

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chill seems to last so much longer than the other status curses. interesting

proud orbit
#

Probably cause it needs to be stacked a lot

narrow inlet
#

I thought its duration refreshed as you stacked it

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rather, I assumed it and hangover operated that way

#

ah, they're probably separate stack durations now that I think about it

delicate arrow
#

I thought its duration refreshed as you stacked it
@narrow inlet that's not how it works?!

narrow inlet
#

yeah, I corrected myself two sentences later lol. thanks

delicate arrow
#

No as in

narrow inlet
#

oh I misunderstood

delicate arrow
#

I also thought that's how it works

narrow inlet
#

I honestly am not sure

delicate arrow
#

Thinking about it, doom doesn't work that way

narrow inlet
#

I'll test next time I have hangover, but someone else will probably swoop in and answer

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well, doom is not a stackable debuff, though

delicate arrow
#

It does have a boon which stacks it

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But I get your point.

narrow inlet
#

sorta. it means extra hits makes a doom stack more potent, but it doesn't add extra stacks

delicate arrow
#

To be honest, I have noticed Dio stacks go down one by one, rather than all at once

narrow inlet
#

yeah that's the thought that makes me think they're on separate timers

delicate arrow
#

Makes no difference if theyre a seperate timer or if it's the same, but constantly refreshed

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Does it not?

narrow inlet
#

aaagh. 50% gold chaos boon is great! an extra DD is also great! 35% cast damage on a cast build... also great! I want all three of these!

delicate arrow
#

Get extra dd

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100%

narrow inlet
#

ah, when I say separate timer, I mean that each debuff is independent and does not refresh

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yeah I went for the DD in the end

delicate arrow
#

What build are you running?

narrow inlet
#

poseidon sword + artemis cast

serene yarrow
#

Is there any certain prerequisite for Aphrodite Legendary? or just any of her Weak boons?

narrow inlet
#

...I had not realized I was so close to a boss room. the drawback was getting hurt whenever I used special. this is going to be interesting...

delicate arrow
#

Oh lord

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@serene yarrow no prerequisites, but god gauge doesn't apply with it

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Naturally

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1 tier 1 that's not god gauge + 1 tier 2 boon

serene yarrow
#

I'm doing some runs specifically to finish the fated list, and missing her legendary and one Artemis boon somehow.

delicate arrow
#

Go Artemis Aphrodite

serene yarrow
#

Missing Hunter Instinct from Artemis. Does that need her Call or any Call?

delicate arrow
#

Artemis dash and attack, aphro cast with Hera bow

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Max stonks

narrow inlet
#

agh. I leaned into healing/health at the shop to survive this special-less hydra fight. that was touch and go

delicate arrow
#

Hunter instinct is which one again?

#

I forgot

#

im a bad Artemis main

serene yarrow
#

God Gauge charges faster from cits.

delicate arrow
#

Oh god that's trash

#

Yes it needs a call

serene yarrow
#

Any call? or hers specifically?

delicate arrow
#

Any

serene yarrow
#

Alright haha

#

I have probably seen this boon many times but never bothered taking it

delicate arrow
#

It's too trash

#

I only take it when my options are her cast, her god gauge or that

#

Cos I usually run hunting blades

serene yarrow
#

Yeah, I did a bunch of that build.

desert nebula
#

Lol, I usually avoid Ares' boons.

delicate arrow
#

Hera bow hunting blades too op

serene yarrow
#

I hate when I get every piece except the Duo.

delicate arrow
#

@desert nebula all his tier 1 boons are great though

serene yarrow
#

Like both legendary + Hermes too

delicate arrow
#

I'd argue only urge to kill is bad

desert nebula
#

I think otherwise tbh. Or I'm just bad with them.

serene yarrow
#

But then no Hunting Blades lol

delicate arrow
#

@serene yarrow I feel you

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@desert nebula ever tried slicing shot with Artemis attack ?

desert nebula
#

The cast?

delicate arrow
#

Build around your slicing shot and hope for hunting blades with whirling vortex, vicious cycle, black metal , dual shot , fully loaded

#

The cast?
@desert nebula yes

#

Build around your slicing shot and hope for hunting blades with whirling vortex, vicious cycle, black metal , dual shot , fully loaded
And watch everything melt

desert nebula
#

No, I find Ares' cast the worst of it all tbh. I prefer Poseidon's or Bacchus'.

delicate arrow
#

Or who??

#

Dionysus?

desert nebula
#

Yes.

delicate arrow
#

Oh ok

#

I hate his cast

narrow inlet
#

Ares cast is meh, until you lean into it

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if you can

desert nebula
#

It is fun, especially with Demeter's and Zeus' combo.

delicate arrow
#

And I only take Poseidon cast if I got myself stuck in an Artemis Aphrodite build with Aphrodite on special

narrow inlet
#

some casts are solid standalone (I really like poseidon if my build is single target focused)

serene yarrow
#

I've never actually used the Hera Bow. lol

delicate arrow
#

Yeah , but slicing shot scales best no doubt

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Which is whay you're aiming fkr

serene yarrow
#

I'm focusing on maxing Aspects before even trying them.

delicate arrow
#

I'm telling you, a cast build around hunting blades one shots Hades in 4 Hera bow rotations

desert nebula
#

Try them first. I maxed Guan Yu just to discover that I still suck with it.

delicate arrow
#

I've never actually used the Hera Bow. lol
I pretty much only play Hera bow. Have been trying out Guan yu because I'm stuck on 11 heat

serene yarrow
#

Only missing a couple right now.

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Hera, Hades, Artemis, and Nemesis

delicate arrow
#

Speaking of which , how do you get 4th bow aspect?

serene yarrow
#

Is there a 4th?

desert nebula
#

Is there even any so far?

narrow inlet
#

there are no 4th aspects save for Guan Yu, I believe

#

yet

delicate arrow
#

:((((

desert nebula
#

Just be patient.

delicate arrow
#

Oh well I'll probably stick to Hera bow anyways :)

#

But Chiron bow seems quite broken tbf

#

everything is broken with Artemis thinking about it

serene yarrow
#

Does anyone else thing Spread Fire is kinda broken?

delicate arrow
#

Does anyone else thing Spread Fire is kinda broken?
What is spread fire

desert nebula
#

Does Demeter's Ravenous Will affect Cast damage in a fully loaded Hera Aspect Bow?

delicate arrow
#

Does Demeter's Ravenous Will affect Cast damage in a fully loaded Hera Aspect Bow?
Yes

serene yarrow
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It makes the Rail shoot 5 short range shots

desert nebula
#

Oh, that's neat.

delicate arrow
#

It affects both the first attack and cast damage

serene yarrow
#

But it makes it fire slower

delicate arrow
#

It's broken

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It makes the Rail shoot 5 short range shots
Sounds interesting

serene yarrow
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But if you dash, it still does 2 shots really fast

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So you can just dash back and forth killing everything

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basically a dash = 10 hits against an enemy

delicate arrow
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I mean tbh

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This entire game is 'dashing back and forth and killing everything:

narrow inlet
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zeus attack doesn't trigger 5 times on spread fire, does it?

delicate arrow
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It should

serene yarrow
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I don't think it does.

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I usually go for things that increase base damage or Artemis for crits

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I had a build once that somehow was getting crits near 100% of the time.

delicate arrow
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Hunters mark

serene yarrow
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yeah

delicate arrow
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That's a 70% crit + 25% crit

serene yarrow
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It was with triple special + rockets on the rail too

delicate arrow
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Yeah so guaranteed grits

serene yarrow
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And this was in a run with No Choice and Tight Deadline so

delicate arrow
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Crits

serene yarrow
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I don't even know how I got that build in that setup haha

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I'll probably max Hera Bow next.

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My favorite weapons have been the Rail and Shield so far.

narrow inlet
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I really like hera bow. but it's not something I prioritized maxing, personally

serene yarrow
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I just have Nemesis, Hera, Hades, and Achilles left.

narrow inlet
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poseidon sword and hera bow work quite well at lv1. while things like chaos shield and chiron bow really need levels to work well

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guan yu needed levels before I could pilot it reasonably, but that's because I'm trash

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on the other hand, I'm finding that I really like poseidon sword, so I'm pouring bloods into it before it's "ideal" from a progression standpoint, just because I know I'll run it a lot

serene yarrow
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One interesting thing with Guan Yu not being maxed yet, is if you are going for Fated List for using all keepsakes

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I setup the mirror, used Guan Yu, and added extra damage with the pact so I'd die in one hit

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and started a run with each keepsake that way

delicate arrow
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Wtf

narrow inlet
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that's clever!

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I may do that once I lose my winstreak

serene yarrow
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Might take 2 hits to die if Guan Yu is maxed. haha

delicate arrow
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Imagine having a winstreak

serene yarrow
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But still very fast method

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I did this outside of a winstreak haha

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My highest winstreak is just 7

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I think it was probably 7 in a row with the rail going up in heat each time, then I swapped to the Spear and died.

delicate arrow
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Mood

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Got 1-8 heat in winstreak with bow

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Then got to 10 heat , swapped to spear and died

serene yarrow
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Spear is my worst weapon by far.

delicate arrow
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Mine is shield

serene yarrow
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I was indifferent until maxing Chaos Shield.

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I love Chaos Shield.

narrow inlet
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^

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gun is now my worst

delicate arrow
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Actually, sword would be my worst

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Cos I never tried shield

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But sword I just suck at

narrow inlet
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Poseidon blade
Guan Yu spear
Chaos shield
Chiron bow (I love hera, but the out of bounds cast issues are a dampener)
Hestia rail I guess

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normal sword I cannot play. poseidon blade I sure can

serene yarrow
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Idk which Rail I like the best

delicate arrow
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What does Poseidon blade do?

serene yarrow
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Extra cast damage

narrow inlet
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when you use your special, dislodge casts stuck in an enemy

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well, extra cast damage too, sure, but that's not the main benefit at all

delicate arrow
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Oh ok

serene yarrow
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That too, but I always use it with Hunting Blades. haha

narrow inlet
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it works in a cast build

serene yarrow
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So the cast doesn't get stuck in enemies in that build.

narrow inlet
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achilles spear would be great with hunting blades, I would think

delicate arrow
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Hera bow

narrow inlet
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the buff is a bit more unwieldy, but way way higher

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hera bow would be fine too, but the more it's maxed the more the benefit is wasted

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doesn't mean its bad

delicate arrow
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Hera bow is by far best for hunting blades

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Yeah , naturally

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In my eyes, Ares arte and Arte aphro Ares are the two best set ups for Hera bow

serene yarrow
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I really love how everything works with regards to the pact / weapons / rewards.

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Because you get more rewards with each weapon, and if you don't like the weapon that much, maybe a different Aspect works for you

narrow inlet
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what does aphro add? a status curse?

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I really need to try more hera bow builds. I want to try dio with hera bow

delicate arrow
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And heart rend

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Don't bother @narrow inlet

narrow inlet
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hoe does heart rend help? I didn't think ares cast would crit often enough for it to matter

delicate arrow
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Much better casts for hera bow

serene yarrow
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@delicate arrow You haven't played with the Shield at all?

narrow inlet
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like what? I thought the fog at range would be fun

delicate arrow
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@narrow inlet no, when you run Ares aphro Artemis, you go aphrodite cast with Ares attack and Artemis special

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Or ares special and Artemis attack

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@serene yarrow nope, never

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@narrow inlet you can cast fog at range just the same

serene yarrow
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You know if you beat the game with each, you can get 10 Titan Blood from the Fated List

narrow inlet
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oh, you'd use special as damage? that's... odd

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might be good, not knocking it

delicate arrow
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Or to spread doom

narrow inlet
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I've just never used special as a main direct damage dealer (artemis) on a non-chiron build

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fog can be cast at range, but I play on controller and it's a bit unwieldy (like rail special). that's most of the appeal lol

serene yarrow
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I've never managed to use special for main damage with Sword / Spear

delicate arrow
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So that when you'll get Ares aphro as duo and heart rend , you'll deal the heart render crit immediately, then you special for consistent doom stacks

serene yarrow
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But it's great with the other 3

delicate arrow
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fog can be cast at range, but I play on controller and it's a bit unwieldy (like rail special). that's most of the appeal lol
So do I, doesn't it auto aim?

narrow inlet
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it does, but it doesn't always aim at the target I want it to

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also sometimes I just want to drop it near me for the damage reduction/bonus/area control/etc

delicate arrow
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With Hera bow you can't drop it near you

narrow inlet
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interesting. these are all hera builds I haven't thought of

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yeah, was just listing an annoyance with controller

delicate arrow
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I've tried everything with Hera haha

narrow inlet
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wait I thought you could by not charging the arrow much?

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ares cast on hera bow felt like it worked like that

delicate arrow
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Bow starting distance to actually fire is quarter distance

narrow inlet
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it would have some minimum distance, sure, but still way closer than auto aim would allow

delicate arrow
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Not on you directly

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But yeah I guess

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But then again

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What would you rather take, building something around that or building something around hunting blades?

narrow inlet
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hunting blades for sure

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I wasn't listing things that I think are amazing, just fun

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don't have a good sense of what casts are good on the bow

delicate arrow
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Ah, I don't know I find Dio cast really boring

narrow inlet
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as I haven't run it since I got slightly better at the game

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I do too, but I've never leaned into it as much as I should before dismissing it

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the dio/dem duo was fun though

delicate arrow
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What does it do?

quiet berry
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ice wine is possibly my favourite duo

delicate arrow
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Ice wine, is it not?

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Yeah

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ice wine is possibly my favourite duo
@quiet berry hunting blades

narrow inlet
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yeah. just a lovely amount of burst

delicate arrow
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Heart rend on Guan yu

quiet berry
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festive fog launches faster, has a different snowy effect, and has an additional burst of damage

narrow inlet
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I assumed it chilled, but I don't think it did

delicate arrow
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So basically dual cast

quiet berry
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@delicate arrow favourite, not most powerful :p imo hunting blades needs to be reworked and at least part of it needs to go to the base cast

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basically dual cast that stacks with dual cast

narrow inlet
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^

delicate arrow
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Ah, I see

narrow inlet
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I got dual cast, swift cast, and the artemis legendary that run

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7 casts in quick succession

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all dual casted

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with ice wine

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everything melted. everything

delicate arrow
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I would try it, but the fact it has no status effect is a huge turn off for me

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As my utility usually goes in my cast

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I'll either have a status effect or hunting blades with snow Burst

quiet berry
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I want to get ice wine and scintillating feast on the same run

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you can still get snow burst :p

delicate arrow
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Yeah I guess

narrow inlet
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yeah, snow burst + dash was how I got status around. worked out well

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this was a guan yu build, too

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was not supposed to be a cast build

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until it accidentally became one

delicate arrow
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With Guan yu I usually toss Poseidon cast with rupture and aphro special for heart rend

narrow inlet
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walking into the last boss room with 5 DDs. heh

delicate arrow
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@narrow inlet how

narrow inlet
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chaos legendary + tooth

delicate arrow
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Replenishing DD when you have 3?

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Oh ok

narrow inlet
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presumably with artemis attack on that guan yu build? doesn't cast knock enemies away? seems counterproductive no?

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didn't even use a single one of the 5 DDs. wellp

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I've been liking athena and demeter attack on guan yu builds

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have yet to try aphro special + artemis attack. that might be fun. aphro special is great in case you get charged skewer

covert current
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and i beat Hades

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yay

west chasm
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What's the interaction of the rail's rocket special with cluster bomb?

vocal thorn
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melts everything

west chasm
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Nice

paper walrus
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Whoo manged a 26 heat run

solar coral
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how long until the next update?

stiff sleet
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It's on the title screen. 17 days, to my recollection

flat vapor
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a little over two weeks 👀

solar coral
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thanks, didnt feel like booting the game just to check

serene yarrow
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The first update since I started playing 😄

stiff sleet
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Ayyy, this'll be real neat for you, then

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I'm so hype for the new update

New weapon

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New aspects

serene yarrow
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Yeah, I got it like 3 days after winter update

narrow inlet
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yeah, pretty hyped for the new weapon. I didn't think new aspects were confirmed as coming this next update t hough

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only been playing for 2 weeks or so, but have gotten 65 runs in so far wellp

stiff sleet
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I'm assuming there's probably another aspect on the way with the weapon

narrow inlet
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@quiet berry I appreciate your post in -feedback if only because it taught me that reaction time affects fish quality. thanks for that :p

stiff sleet
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I could very well be wrong

narrow inlet
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assumptions build unnecessary hype

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you should see the amount of times SG steps in on the subreddit to correct people saying things like "yeah we should get a new biome/god with the next update"

stiff sleet
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We should be getting at least ten thousand new Boons, a new weapon, seven different palette swaps, and Zag for Smash Bros next patch

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I think all of those things are within reach

narrow inlet
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there we go

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*dusa for smash bros

stiff sleet
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...Feel like we already kinda have Zag in the form of Byleth, actually

They're kinda close

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A bow, a lance, a sword

...New weapon's gonna be an axe, I can feel it

west chasm
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Hmm

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How about FISTS!?

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Imagine it

serene yarrow
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I'm at 151 attempts haha

west chasm
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Punching your way through Hades

stiff sleet
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"Come here and say that to my face, boy."

"I'll do you one better." PUNCH

serene yarrow
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Have escaped 30 times. so 1/5 lol

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But of course it took a lot of runs before escaping once

narrow inlet
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axe, fists, whip are good guesses

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but I think it might be a ranged weapon

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if only because the weapons on the left are melee, and the ones on the right are ranged (so far)

serene yarrow
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whip could technically be some range

stiff sleet
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...Meg gives Zag one of her old whips

narrow inlet
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a medium range weapon I guess. normal attack is directional, special is an aoe whip around

stiff sleet
#

...That's a thought

What if, on maxing out a relationship tree, you could get a skin for one of your weapons?

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Based on the character

narrow inlet
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could be a nice way of unlocking 4th aspects

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achilles would give Guan Yu, etc

stiff sleet
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I feel like it'd be a bit much to unlock aspects, but cosmetic differences would be neat

west chasm
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While wielding the whip, Zagreus' voicelines are replaced with Johnny Test quotes

stiff sleet
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No

west chasm
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Yes

serene yarrow
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Has anyone ever had a fishing spot right next to Chaos gate?

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I had this happen, and caught a fish + entered chaos on the same button press

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Then my HUD disappeared until I quit / resumed

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I sent in a report about it, but wondering if anyone else had seen that

deep pivot
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I haven’t 😮

merry harbor
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I have.

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It goes away once you catch another fish, at least, but I haven't had a fish spawn in a place for me to replicate it since.

sleek dome
deep pivot
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Oh, I wanted to give the summary of Aphrodite of your video but you changed it to Dionysus 😅

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Gotta love how these guys explain greek myth with such a nice voice 🙂

sleek dome
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The dionysus video goes into the joke that ||Dio and Zag pull on Orpheous||

deep pivot
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And that ended in a nice song

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Yay

jade grove
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Fists? Aspect of Kenshiro.

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Damage dealt is delayed, but increased by up to 300% based on number of hits.

novel wasp
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Aspect of One Punch Man

jade grove
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Costs 300 titan blood

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Oneshots everything

calm laurel
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Aspect of Saitama

lusty stump
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Guys guys. I had this stupid idea. What if last weapon are just boots.

brisk trail
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Aspect of Sanji.

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Sorry, One Piece is the only thing that came to me.

lusty stump
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Just imagine - Zagreus actually walking on lava and not taking any damage what's so ever.

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And one of the aspects is just Hermes aspect which grants him an ability to walk in the air. Just imagine how much it would fix most cast builds problems.

novel wasp
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Aspect of Thanatos

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Thanatos is literally your companion

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and he instakills everything

calm laurel
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Kinda op ngl

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Also that no gh it have the same chance to break the game

novel wasp
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new joke weapon, you automatically take damage as soon as you stop

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including cutscene

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but you take no damage as soon as you move

deep pivot
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Aspect of Hermes

calm laurel
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Aspect of Usain

deep pivot
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Aspect of Nyx: all room rewards are darkness

calm laurel
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Kind of a double edged sword

night turret
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Welp atleast that would be A reason to put on her keepsake

covert current
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ah

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okie

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why cant i receive bounties even tho i have 34 heat cuz at first stage appearence zagreus is talking about not getting bounties

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am i just stupid?

merry harbor
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Bounties max out at 20.

wispy lodge
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@merry harbor Wait, really? Is that enough stuff to power up all the current (and future) aspects and relationships? Wouldn't stuff like Ambrosia not be enough for everything?

merry harbor
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If you accidentally lose some ambrosia, you can always trade in at the vendor, but it's 20 levels per weapon.

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that's a LOT of stuff

proud orbit
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After you exhaust bounties there is several other ways still to get every resource

wispy lodge
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Oh right, PER WEAPON

proud orbit
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Fish, broker, you get some from prophecies and you can infinitely buy from charon

merry harbor
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Yeah, much more reasonable with that in mind. If it was 20 total ever then I'd be worried

wispy lodge
#

I maxed out all relationships and I'm about to max out companions, and I'm at about 5 heat with each weapon. Yeah, there's more than enough for everything

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I'm visiting my grandparents in southern Italy, and I realised I'm super close to where "historically" Persephone ended up after escaping Hades. I'll let you know if I see her lol

jade grove
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Nice.

merry harbor
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"I have two common boons and an Epic, so I'll grab the rarity upgrade from Euridyice!"
Upgrade: Hits one of the unleveled commons and the Epic

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At least it was the one for my special but, jeez

primal whale
#

Geez 20 per weapon? And I still have too much of the stuff...

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Oh wait i misunderstood XD

hallow cargo
#

silvaria, what's bad about that?

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did you want it to hit both of the commons?

merry harbor
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Ideally, yeah, because both had gotten a level up from nectar.

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instead of the already good special

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Worked out though, considering I got two Chaos rooms with special damage but at the time it just felt sillly.

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Wait, no, it was the epic that had gotten a nectar, I'm smart.

safe sand
#

A brilliant idea came to my mind now :D What do you think about making a bonus mode where you could play for Thanatos? ☠️ 😸

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9999 dmg Pew-Pew

night turret
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A truly wonderfull Idea would be the Underworld Tycoon where we play as Hades himself managing the dead and building mazes for your son to die in.

jade grove
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Dungeon Keeper but it's Hades?

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Yes please

winter cape
#

The underworld sure have lots of people with weird fetish

alpine stratus
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um, this really isnt the server to discuss that, though

serene yarrow
#

I saw Thanatos do 12499 damage before. Not sure what status effects or whatever were in play.

jade grove
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Lul

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Thanatos doing some kinda summon

tawny patio
#

That's +25% bonus damage. I guess it's 1 rank of Privileged Status, or maybe Sweet Surrender?

warm dove
#

how to complete The Gift of Song guysssssss

coral axle
#

i've seen than do 30k crits with marked

small steppe
#

how to complete The Gift of Song guysssssss
@warm dove play the harp repeatedly after each run. Several times each time. Eventually you'll get it. Don't forget to talk to Orpheus - he provides some tips once or twice.

warm dove
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thanks alot

patent umbra
#

Shattered shackle boosts thanatos damage too

serene yarrow
#

Does a Trial of the Gods count for your keepsake boon?

latent gulch
#

You really need to play the harp a lot for the Gift of Song. Like.. a lot.
I only just finished it and it takes a lot of playing. It seems each time the playing gets better Orpheus will have something new to say. (After another run that is. At least so it seemed for me.)

lusty stump
dusky meteor
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Low Tolerance

jade grove
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F

terse holly
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what weap?

lusty stump
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chaos shield

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though suppose low tolerance has to go