#h1-discussion
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Lol
because I am feeling like doing Poseidon aspect sword 32 heat run
The first boon, at least.
so anyone knows how to mod the game so that it can drop only 1 god's boon?
i wanna make a video of aphrodite only run
There's a Hades modding Discord server, I think I saw someone post about it in #self-promotion
thanks
the seed stays the same, but rewards will branch out if you go to different rooms
plus there's a lot of minor rng manipulation you could accidently do as well
@lusty stump
did try, but the run completely changed past the second chamber
should have kept the heat on 9
had a good set up of Poseidon cast, Zeus dash, Aphrodite special and Demeter damage boost if you don't have casts.
Oh boy.

I have a question about stacking slows. I have Demeter’s Chill (slow up to 40%) + Killing Freeze (20% slow if all enemies are chilled) + Epic Numbing Sensation (enemies are 33% slower if they have hangover). Does that mean I can make them up to 93% slower or is there a cap?
Anybody has some Zagreus or Hades gif ?
What if....
Charon is actually willing to take Zagreus back to the surface but he doesn't because Zag doesn't stop mocking his manner of speaking?
i'm pretty sure zag doesn't mock charon
Hello :3 is trading the Elyssian bottle thing for titan blood a good idea?
you can buy titan blood from styx shop and you get 2 per heat
while you can't get ambrosia other than trading
and you will already be getting way more titan blood then ambrosia
unless you're totally stocked up on ambrosia, i'd say no
and by then you usually should get enough of both already
I see..
Are there uses for the ambroisa now?
Or it will be useful in future updates?
Damn..
I thought I saw all there was before the updates
Nice to know there are more
How to get the role of "Hades"?
go to #bot-commands and write ''rank Hades'' with a question mark at the beginning
Cool, thx : 3
@fallow laurel eventually you won't be able to do anything with Ambrosia in the current patch; and if you're upgrading all the weapons- you'll need way more Titan Blood than Ambrosia currently
but by continually playing higher heat runs, you'll get double the amount of Titan Blood than Ambrosia.
If you think you want the big guns first while you're waiting on fuller releases, I would say wait until you finish gifting Dusa stuff and then you're kinda free to trade in Ambrosia for Titan Blood as you see fit
oh, worth noting that you'll also get items that Ambrosia upgrades too though, so if you're trying to max THOSE out too; maybe chill out on trading Ambrosia there until you've got what you want upgraded
Thank you! @tribal sapphire

Have people realized that zues shield is broken just hard to play
I been saying that for long time. Zeus shield best shield but it has high skill cap
I'm not exactly a top level player though so my opinion should be taken with pinch of salt 😄
with the Trial of the Gods if you lost to the "betrayed" god does their hearts deplete
not to my (fairly limited) knowledge
it's jsut supposed to be a downside fro getting two blessings in one room afaik
Nothing long lasting happens
ah, k
It could be broken, but not when there are easier more broken things you can do with less skill
Doesn’t take much to charge and find charge speed and size upgrades for the special spear.
And the magically the game beats itself lol
meg ayayaya looks cute as huck
How many days are left until next update?
18
so, question for anyone who's gotten sisyphus done (spoilering so if you haven't you can avoid it) || Is there something specific I need to do to get the contract to spawn with the contractor? I've talked to Meg, have him and bouldy at both max affection, but can't get any text about it from Hades or the thing to spawn from the contractor. Do I need to get specific lines from Sisyphus enough after talking to Meg about to get dialogue with Hades and then the contractor will have it, or did I somehow break something? ||
a dusa and meg cute for anyone who might be able to help
You could ask in #h1-story-discussion to avoid spoiler tagging every message...
They should make it so that, if you buy the disco ball for the lounge, Theseus also gets one for his fight.
Just to make the third biome Disco Elysium.
Make Theseus to dab when he win and there will be the disco ball then xd 😂
you die when he wins tho
The game is 100% scripted
This can be scripted to show him after the death animation
Anyone have an image of Zag where he's like :/ you know the one
I need it for text post meme purposes
Nevermind found it
So I had a couple questions about the pact since I just unlocked it. Whats the easiest start into it and if you go at it at ranks higher than you need, do the bounties below it stack?
I personally did the damage increase. If you almost never take damage it's rarely an inconvenience
Besides on hydra D:<
Oh no, I take lots of damage
The bounties do not stack
personally I take the boss one
I needed all 4 dd's plus god mode to beat my first round
Also they dont but you can go on lower heats to get those rewards if you want
you're just abusing the heat gauge for no real reason
cause if you take it at level 1, then really all it means is that the fury fight is a bit harder
but everything else is just like a standard run
@oblique tulip "if you almost never take damage" heh nice joke :p
If I'm going shield I never have to use dd
Provided I also have butterfly and a build that shreds mobs with little effort
To be fair though
I'm not high on heat
I actually beat it with rail for my first time
It might be way different later on~
well, if you're good enough to use butterfly, your experience is completely unlike those of us who get shredded and come out of fights with <25% health
I can stack butterfly relative consistently if I'm not doing a dash build or if I have deflect on bow b4 I get to hydra
hell of a lot better player than me then, lul
W/ dash builds I always mess up in asp because i briefly dash into the lava long enough to take one point of damage :/
lul
Tbf it's easier for me to use butterfly if I'm doing a special spear or special rail run
me in Extreme Hydra: lose 80% of health to dashing into lava and dashing into heads
galaxy brain
is it just me or is the fishing kinda hard? I've tried like 15 times but always messing it up
okay good to know
dang
they should make it a little bit easier in the next patch, it would be a more relaxing break during the attempts
A little advice with that is that I found that most fish wont go for a bite on the first try
Bites also have a slightly different animation where they make a splash
ohhh really
Test bites (aka fool bites) just dip slightly
next time ill just watch for a long time haha
A lot of it is reflexes tho
I feel like i have pgood reflexes just from playing stepmania
I have pretty bad/inconsistent ones.
This game is actually really forgiving in a way reflexes wise
Enter the gungeon is
Worse i wanna say
But it's not easy either
yeah I wasn't as much of a fan as enter the gungeon
*Hades isnt easy
normally i hate these type of rogue like repeating games
I mean... Gungeon is hard as nails, it's not exactly a fair comparison
Hades can be pretty tough.
but Hades actually has a good feeling of progression and great story in my opinion
Yeah hades has more replayability compared to a lot of other roguelikes i've played
The best part is, is that it's solo oriented
how many roguelites aren't solo oriented
there are a few
I just think it's a little weird to say when majority of them are
hades has a really nice desktop shortcut logo haha
RoR2 comes to mind
mostly
like i loved ror1
but the fact ror2 just feels better as a party game is just kinda eh to me
@viral flicker if u are using a controller, when a fish bites it will vibrate.
ror 2 is pretty fun
Finally heated out all the weapons!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/425127651355918347/681132718410563586/1145360_20200223163045_1.png
What a ride.
if I find a misspelling (in English version) do I just report it via F10?
Yes
@viral flicker if u are using a controller, when a fish bites it will vibrate.
@agile saddle I play with a DS4 controller and fake bites make controller vibrate, too.
Yep I am
the new update is in 2 weeks
pretty close! Wonder if there will be a trailer for it
So cool to see that im not the only one enjoying this awesome game! This discord is bustling :)
I wondered if there is a spot with collected known issues or bugs etc.?
There isn't. But it seems like a good idea for a wiki page though.
What's EA for if not for piling up work in one place 😋
I believe the devs sure has some kind of issue tracker. But most issue trackers are not designed to be viewed publicly. And it's a lot of work to maintain a separate issue tracker for the public
they probably have a database of every
ever
Yea, i've sat at both ends of this table and since then i check if my issue has been reported, before submitting it myself, or not. But makes sense its not public too. Thanks
Which bow aspect is better? Hera or chiron?
I play with hera mostly but I’m starting to find chiron a bit more fun
That's just, um, different play styles.
I don't like Hera's Aspect simply because I find it less reliable. Also you can shoot Bloodstones out of bound, which is not fun.
What is the advantage of Hera, anyway?
Detonates Dionysus' cast ASAP without a bachelor's degree of ballistics
Hera also let's cast drop faster
with Hermes apsect usually you get always 5 sec or 3.5 sec
I think
that's my experience with Hera
Huh
but really, if you want to do cast build, could just do Poseidon's aspect of sword.
Don't they reduce it to the same value
Hera bow isn't much good to say Chiron
hera is okay if you stack a bunch of artemis
but so does poseidon so your choice honestly
also, poseidon cast on hera too
Poseidon’s Aspect increases the damage of the cast so I prefer it more than Hera’s (besides the point of bloodstones being out of bounds with Hera)
Yeah, I'm struggling to see the main advantage of Hera, other than being a bit easier to hit Dio shots with
Because what it does is basically identical to a Hermes boon.
it's really just a free Hermes boon, which you would have gotten anyway tbh
they could make it so your casts apply on each arrow for attack or special
with diminishing returns when a target gets hit by multiple
thing is, compare it to say Poseidon's sword, the later is more likely to actually do something with the cast
It should also work well with Aphrodite's / Ares' cast, making it work at a longer range.
and it's less relied on the boons you get, since if you don't get right boons with hera, the run is kind of ruined
Yeah. Hope it gets fixed with the next patch
Asphodel is just hell for cast builds.
if hera had a quick return to casts then yeah it can work as good as Poseidon sword, since it covers the "returning cast back" aspect that makes cast build so great.
it'd have to have it with the reduced drop timer though for it to viable
If Hera recalled Casts quicker, it would be so much better + it would fix the out of bounds problem
Like a mini Hermes legendary haha
Like “Cast drop & recall timer: 5 seconds”
Yeah, agreed
At rank 5
That would solidify its niche
On a different topic: seeing that many questions of "how to fish", I just put all the info I gathered from various sources on the wiki: https://hades.gamepedia.com/Fishing
Hope this could be helpful.
Cheers! 😊
I need to catch 2 of Chaos’ fishies to get them all but 2% chance to the random Chaos gate chance (and another small % for the legendary) is just too low 
Someday, maybe~
Also, with the 10-rooms-between-fishing-spot condition, it's harder to find fishing spot in Chaos room among Tartarus while Tartarus has the highest chance to spawn its own fishing spot.
So the best bet would be to find Chaos gates on Asphodel or Elysium and cross fingers
I find it amusing that the legendary Chaos fish gives Ambrosia instead of Blood. I thought Blood would be more valuable but, then again, you only get 1 Ambrosia per bounty-run
As many as you can give out.
@warm dove you can open codex and check how many nectar you have to give to reach the locks on any given npc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583419755608801312/681246954956783641/20200224000539_1.jpg just had another wacky guan yu run
plus blackout, ice wine and ravenous will
Anyone else say "Coin for Charon" whenever they toss money into a turnpike gate?
well now i will
toss a coin to your Charon
what does charon do with the coins anyway
chomp
As a Hera bow one trick, trying out Guan yu is so funny
One shotting everything whilstbhealing all my hp back
Tbf I did have Artemis attack and dash with heart rend , clean kill and double status effects on
how is Guan Yu's special different from the normal spear special? Is there a difference other than the lack of press-special-to-return? Description says "explosive" special but I'm not sure what that translates to
Seems to be a wider hitbox as well, unless I'm imagining things
Its a large wave of damage
And fireworks 💥
as in, it does more damage as well? or more ticks of damage on a target?
yeah the sound effect is pleasing
ok i am super over the last boss skull spamming. just had one where they threw 7 at once. like one after the other
it does damage over the flight path
in an area, for a pretty high amount too
it's basically a long cylinder of damage that can get crazy high with the right upgrades
how does "over the flight path" differ from normal? doesn't the spear always deal damage all along the throw path?
it doesn't seem like a hitscan-type ability, if that's what you mean
Agh. I should have expected that Charged Skewer would be the same as the charged special volley for the bow. The gimped range without charge would be less bad if it were indicated properly in-game.
the main draw is that it's in an area for high damage
imagine explosive launcher except the aoe damage happens along the whole path rather than just at the end
regular spear special does damage on the flight path, but only along the spear (i.e. very narrow) and easy to miss, for less damage as well
you can throw guan yu between two enemies and still hit them both for 75 dmg
ah - so it's higher damage along with higher range. got it, thanks!
Yeah, should have said wider range. Got it, thanks 🙂
👍
so uh... this guan yu build turned into a cast build accidentally
3 legendaries, 2 duos... 60% cast speed with 6 ice wine'd heavily bursty casts, along with a charged skewer high level aphro special. dash and attack stacked chill further, which burst for decent damage as well. this was madness
also, just realized that half of my 26 clears have been a part of this 13 win streak. things have been so, so much smoother after switching to controller for me
@flat vapor its called bigger hurtbox lol
@narrow inlet Ice Wine is Nice Wine.
angry grandma
Also, controller is better for melee, but KBM is far superior for rail...
Because you can strafe and aim your bombs
I’ve found controller far better for both melee and non-rail ranged (for me).
Rail I don’t feel as good with... so I just force attack or rocket builds on it instead to keep playing on the controller lol
Yeah agreed, but I will switch for rail because I love it
i love keyboard mouse tho
I use controller
Controller; it's much better to move around and much better to dodge. But for attacking; MK is superior. That's my experience so far. I played controller 2 hours and MK for 100 hours.
I’m ok with using a controller with the rail, because if something is moving around so much that it’s difficult to aim the special with the controller, then it’s probably moving so much that it won’t get hit by the special regardless of it’s aimed well
Yeah I feel like the decision between MK and controller is pretty dependent on whether you want to play offensively or defensively. I prefer the controller because I feel like dodging damage is more important than the extra precision.
In fact I encourage everyone to give both a shot and see what works best. You may find that one is a lot better for you than the other and things will become easier
lol the game just crashed
When I use Athena's dash boon and her Combo Boon with Ares, I somehow fail to trigger Doom by dashing through foes. Is this by design, am I missing something?
I feel like the Rail benefits more from MK depending on which aspect and hammers you use.
Namely: If you use Eris, the one target you should always aim to hit first is yourself, and Controller cannot do that easily due to autotarget.
Hestia needs it less because auto targeting is beneficial for the railgun.
Meanwhile, Cluster Bomb is massively superior on KBM, because you have effortless switching between carpet bombing and saturated bombardment (the latter being also in front of your face).
Also unique to rail is the ability to strafe fire with the primary attack, so KBM wins even defensively.
I personally struggle with melee weapons on keyboard though, and bow doesn't really have any handling traits I would prefer it for.
I tried playing this game with controller and I felt it was uncomfortable for me. I've always played this game with just keyboard and find it quite easy.
On high heat, I don’t think the keyboard would help me with the default special. I can’t imagine being able to target myself with the special, and then continue standing there until after the special lands. It sounds very unsafe, and I’d probably get whacked by enemy attacks if I was standing still for that long. It would be much better for me to just press the special button, and then dash under the targeted circle right before it lands.
I mean... that's also easier to do with keyboard, I figure, because on controller you can only target the things that are trying to kill you unless you hide.
watch my language? what was the bad word? curse? or dam?
the language bot seems to be a little over-zealous
or was it because I was talking about the google algorithms tracking me down? big brother shutting me down
no, it was the curse words. please keep clean language here!
for the record, it was flagged for the s word specifically
did I say that? I don't even remember. It just a natural part of how I talk haha. Well, sorry.
Stay fluffy 🐯
is it just me or triple shot is really meh
it is
Is there a new character on the game or something ? I see that I'm missing an item in the keepsakes but I can't figure out to who I didn't give a nectar
oh that must be Chaos then
I'm almost sure I already gave it to Chaos yesterday tho at the same time as Sisyphus
hm well then need a screenshot of the keepsakes' inventory, since it seems the ones that aren't unlocked end up last.
I don't have chaos there I know that but I'm almost sure I gave a nectar to him yesterday
Huh odd. Cosmic egg should be there if you did give them nectar. Unless it didn't save and the run was no more.
Probably that yeah
What do people think the next weapon will be?
Have there been hints I've missed?
no hints, the only thing we know is the release date
Any guesses or wishes?
the most popular are a ranged weapon like a crossbow or throwing knives, a fast-paced melee weapon like fists or daggers, or a slow weapon with superarmor/slight invulnerability like hammer or scythe
A staff would be cool
But that's unsubstantiated
I can't think of anything distinct to what we have already ranged aside from that
Probably a charge weapon
Laser attack, charged blast for special
A staff could have so many cool possibilities. But as keeper said, a fast pace weapon would be awesome as well
But it almost ends up just being another version of the rail like that
True
I'm too creatively bankrupt to think of anything unique lol
Maybe a club or something. Plenty of characters have wielded some variety of blunt weapon
But it could end up too close to the sword
I mean they can work around that, currently the game doesn't have anything similar to superarmor/invulnerability, and since the game only gets faster and faster, superarmor is probably a good way to make a slow weapon work
A weapon where each hit is a commitment does sound interesting
Big swings, could have stun on the special.
Though, after talking with you lot, I kinda like the concept of a magic staff more 🙂
I mean it doesn't have to be a staff to be magic
Relying on super armor is gonna be bad for any heat above like 5
High commitment attacks are in the game already actually
Spear spin attack and it sucks because it requires such a commitment
people make Guan Yu aspect work on 32 heat, and its charge ability doesn't even have any sort of invulnerability
That's because it heals you
Also because its ranged, and you can fire it through walls
think about sword special
it goes through even if you get it, but instead of losing half your hp you'd be fine
What about a magic Trident like Poseidon one ?
I don't think it's a bad idea
What about sword special?
It can be cancelled by enemy damage
And it is also not very good because of it
only at the start of it afaik
Partway through as well, becusee there's also a point where you can accidentally cancel it yourself which is annoying for dash spammers like me
instead of being a 'magic staff' it could also be just Zagreus' inherent god abilities
that's one way to make it fit in the story
Or a blood based weapon
you can cancel special with dash? I thought it only made you use your special as soon as you stop dashing
at least that's what I get when I use special+dash
Maybe it was basic attack then
I don't play sword much but I'm pretty sure it's cancellable in some way
I see
I'm trying to imagine how a magic/god powers weapon would work but I can't think of anything that hasn't been done already
I was thinking a charged ball which can be charged while moving
The special should definitely be his ''Call'' for example, but what would it be? Zagreus is supposedly ||The God of Blood/Life|| , but I don't think it can be something directly related to his HP
What would Zagreus' Call be like?
what if his special didn't directly do damage, but instead binds 2 or more enemies, so if one of them is hit, the rest of them take a percentage of that damage
that'd be new... I think?
I think a callback to Bastion's Bellows would be fun. A short range ranged weapon. We pretty much have everything else from that game. It would also match Zag's fiery disposition.
I have 0 idea how it would work in actuality though lol
@proud orbit A staff would be very very easy to make unique. Splitting projectiles, which is actually what happens with staves in game.
Like the elysium ones yeah
Actually @karmic oasis that's a great idea as well.
Bellows? Easy aspect - Hephaestus
Another one: Aeolus or something
Aspect of Aeolus, allows you to blow enemies around and deflect projectiles... Hephaestus, something to do with molten metal, acts like those fireballs maybe.
Is the version number in any way indicative of the amount of content that is intended to be in the release version?
If I have to guess, the now-five-digit version number is just the number of SVN commits.
I imagine the bellows to have a shorter range than the rail gun yes.
rail gun hammer that makes it shorter*
the base attack would be easy (stream of fire in the direction you are facing), with maybe an ammo limit, maybe it slows your walk so you can keep pressure on (unlike rail). Maybe the damage increases the longer the attack is held, but reload from zero takes longer. Honestly, I am not sure what I would do with special, because the bow and sword have a nova-ish effect already, rail has the bomb. Maybe a straight forward fireball like projectile that penetrates? But then again that's too similar to a large degree of casts. Thats where my imagination ends. I just imagine burninating through Tartarus and my mind stops worrying about stuff like "how will this actually work" after that.
@jade grove Actually your Aspect of Aeolus would be a cool special move for it, another defensive weapon to go with the shield on top of being a "ranged" weapon. A bit more twitchy than the static defense of the shield.
Spin special
Oooh, or it could plant napalm mines
though that would also be a cool aspect change
Aeolus aspect: Changes it to a force blast of wind
this run is really only great for crowd control, but not bosses
RIP
When Artemis and Ares give you boons but Ares doesn’t want to give you his cast
Worse, when he does give you his cast but they keep trolling you into not giving you Hunting Blades
I really want to get hunting blades, really only thing that I haven't gotten yet for duo boons
I mean, I got it, but Hunting Blades spawned in Styx and made the Theseus fight miserable
Hunting Blades is just such a pain to get, because if you're not lucky and only have slicing shot to rely on, your run is boned
I figure at this point, start with Artemis instead of Ares.
Because at least if you get a crit attack or special and nothing else, you're not helplessly relying on just slicing shot for a biome
you have to have Artemis for something except the cast and ares for cast, right?
Yes
I did Ares start, had only bloody Slicing Shot for all of Tartarus and half of Asphodel.
Never again.
what I learnt is that once you have picked your Ares position be it blades or doom, the second won't show up or at least if it does it's very unlikely.
Yeah, I noticed...
also about to throw the run (hopefully) at the final boss, I am not going to stand around, but I will hope this ends sooner or later, because this amount of damage pains me.
therefore, start with artemis, don't cripple your starting
I swear if I somehow win this, I don't know anymore
@lusty stump I recommend you get Slicing Shot + Artemis’ dash or Call (and fill your attack, special with other gods’ boons)
With that, Artemis won’t be offering you her other boons that need progression
Oh, that's a good idea
Does Poseidon sword buff the blade cast @deep pivot
Or does it only work on embeds?
It should empower the ticks
So you just slam special and get shreddier blades?
Neat
I'd say that works
Also Eris rail with shotgun dio attack
or shotgun demeter, actually, with cryoblasting
shotgun demeter would benefit from the +damage stack on arty dash by a lot
Oh, the special just dislodges the cast. When you cast the shot, the shots damage already have the damage bonus
No need to Special prior to casting
Yeah
no wonder people like it
Yeah. Poseidon aspect is my go to for Cast builds
quick question.
Is titan's blood okay to trade for 250 gemstones?
because so far I have stuff I wanted upgraded already on that line, just wondering.
Hm?
Remember that there are still future aspects to be unveiled so you might want to have a good supple of bloods just in case
okay time to roll back then
trading anything for gems is a big meme imo
keep in mind you'd need 31 blood for the new weapon at LEAST
36 if the zag is actually good
if you do all gem troves you'll eventually wind up with a crap ton of gems
and then another 15 for whatever new aspect debuts
and it's pretty easy to get gems now with fishing
Thank goodness they put fishing rewards
I dont remember who mentioned it but combining Sunken Treasure and his other loot boon together into 1 boon would be much better
it's pretty easy to farm gems now so personally i wouldn't trade away titan blood for gems
i also do all gem troves
Besides, Blood serves a more practical use while gems are merely for esthetics
Sunken Treasure and that together would be a little nuts, tbh. You'd guarantee the boosted lootsplosion on that same pull
you don't boost the lootsplosion
that said, if you're farming, you can take sunken multiple times if it shows up afaik
it's only room rewards
man imagine if there was a boon that would double the effect of all other boons
the splosion is kinda crap as well unless you have a lot of darkness boosting boons

I only take that loot boon when other Poseidon options are uuuh
well i'll take sunken treasure over wave pounding anyday
Is Dio's special on chaos shield meh?
pretty strong
okay tried it out
my expectations were quite low considering I didn't count how many times special hits the enemy with doom on top of it.
eh, i personally always use the same few builds for high heat
it's pretty much necessary because most other combos are just not that good
What amount of heat is considered high? I am new to the game.
20/32
Oh, wow. I am just getting to 5 heat. That is a ways off.
personally i'd say anything from 15-20+ can be considered high in general
Good to know. Thanks.
what yall think the final weapon gon be?
please say scythe...................
wooden sandals for sure
do you know when the teaser trailer usually comes out?
quick question. Is Demeter wrath worse than Artemis's wrath?
I like it, it's got a huge AoE
as in the god's trial room
@analog elbow I'm just sitting here like, "... y'all got any more of that [HADES UPDATE INFORMATION] ?"
hahaha oh yea
ohhh I see, nevermind then :-p
if you're using a melee weapon, demeter often ruins my life, and the reverse is true with ranged weapons for artemis
demeter's wrath puts those vortexes underneath enemies so it's hard to get in range of them with the sword without taking a ton of damage. and IIRC artemis has those fast moving circles that basically track you, so standing still at a distance with the bow is tough
Oh, wrath, right
okay demeter wasn't that bad as I expected and thankfully reacted in time.
also thanks for the recommendations on Artemis/Ares build! Haven't gotten hunting blades yet but I got combination of Ravenous Will, Quick Reload, Slicing Shot, Fully Loaded and Black Metal.
and Snow Burst.
and dual shot
Nice.
yeet
well dang 1st time i cleared with dd's left and not just 1 but 2/3 , didnt lose one on final boss
Yeet indeed.
I just had an idea for a Dionysus + Artemis duo boon. Since Dionysus is about being drunk and Artemis about precision and criticals, their Duo boon would be Drunken Aim: “Everytime any attack fails to crit (if it has a critical chance), raise it’s crit chance by 1%. Stacks are lost once a critical hits.”
It would be funny 😆
Woo! You did it! 🎉
oh dang I've just passed 50 myself.
Does anyone have any tips for filling out boons for certain gods? I got most of them through natural gameplay. But I can't seem to get some final ones for Zeus, Athena, Artemis and Dionysus.
I've even looked up which boons I need to get to the ones I'm still missing. And I just never seem to get enough boons offered from the one god I'm going for to get to the ones I'm missing.
https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/505164873328754688/681170408388689948 well you are in luck, since Peach made this chart recently which helps with finding very specific boons!
Thank you very much.
However I've already found some of these charts on the wikia? I looked up how to get them.
I just never seem to actually encounter that particular god often enough. Or they don't offer me the boons.
And I've tried at least ten separate runs now? I've lost count.
I encountered a bug the other day, and took a screenshot, but didn't realize there was a bug report in game. Is there a way to use an old screenshot for the bug report instead of it taking a new one?
@serene yarrow As far as I know, no
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/681575782858227829/unknown.png
Was attempting to get Divine Protection but Athena wouldn't give me brilliant Riposte. A lot of other boons... but not the one I needed.
One of these runs I'll get it.
Do revenge boons work if you're invincible?
Does the Eris aspect buff refresh if you get hit with the blast while already buffed? Or does it have to run out first?
It refreshes.
It refreshes
I think Raging Rush is the only kind of buff like that which doesn't refresh
It doesn't?
@jade grove there is some incentive to kill enemies in challenge rooms as they have a chance to drop gold. I always go for them.
not enough, imo
but enough to matter, for me every bit helps cause there are times when i'm 5obols short
i used to destroy the pillars before hand as well for a bit of gold lol
maybe it'd be cooler if enemies became stronger the more the timer was closer to running out
eh, that'd just make you run away harder
no, I want a real reason to fight
not just a random chance of "how good is this room for cheesing them"
well the game's atmosphere suggests you should fight back
the game mechanics do nothing to make you
or if you do, you get nothing from it
eh.. true
i mean the same could be said for than
you can easily get overrun in some of the rooms
for a centaur heart
it's something
and if you get a huge lead you can piss off and wait
at the bare minimum it's a symbolic something
i feel the gold offered is honestly reason enough, making the rooms more difficult would actually just discourage me from attacking the enemies, cause rooms have a "maximum amount" of enemies that can appear in them, or at least they appear to, and that's usually not hard to dodge.
But since a theoretically infinite number of enemies spawn within the time, killing as many as possible means I can earn lots of obols and still buy something in Tartarus without necessarily needing an obol room.
I didn't suggest making them harder...
I suggested making it a bit better to kill them, rather than just the RNG chance of obols
Pear just read my mind. I love to shop and killing enemies for extra obol is a bit of an incentive (unless I’m not liking my current build, then I just wait lol)
I was wondering, what's the extent of the Demeter dialogue? I got to when she talks about Kore, but then it stopped. Is there just nothing else for now?
Spoilers
This game helps me work through my own father issues without expensive therapy. Thanks SG!
greetings all
Is there a reason why Piercing Wave (from sword) doesn't apply on-hit effects? Would that be too broken? I've never done a good run around piercing wave unfortunately
Has anyone ever had a run where they got 5 Death Defiance from 5 different sources at once?
Only seen a screenshot of it.
I don't know why, but I'm trying to do that.
wellp. set up a heat/keepsake build for poseidon sword, accidentally picked the rail.
If you quit in the middle of a run, does Steam not sync it?
it already saved my progress unfortunately
I also picked artemis attack, which may not be ideal on rail. RIP
ah well, let's see how I can make this work
as for 5 DDs - someone mentioned getting 6 DDs
If you take damage in a room and select Give Up, it puts you back at the House and keeps the starting room layouts, so if you wanted to, you could go back and try with sword.
I think I'd lose my ~15 win streak though, which I'd be sad about
Nope!
wait, what? really?
Yeah, Idunno why? But it doesn't.
is "give up" an option on the pause screen? I've never seen it
I was asking about Steam syncing because I'd quit in the middle of a run, and if I changed computers, I can't resume that run from there.
Found out on accident when I forgot to switch back to butterfly once and it just. stayed
It only shows mid encounter if you've taken damage that room. After completing it it goes away, but that's easily solved by going next room and eating a hit.
But I can resume the run if I don't swap computers.
It's actually surprising it DOESN'T take off the win streak, but I don't like to use that to keep them. feels kinda cheap, y'know
well would ya look at that! thanks 🙂
yeah, I feel like it should disrupt the win streak
this means you can reroll that first boon until you get something you want from a keepsake god, maybe? or is that seeded?
I think it's always the same boons. But you could reroll for different Chaos boons
ah, definitely the same boons, yeah
attack/special/dashstrike from artemis in a cast build
Seeds change by changing uh, god keepsakes, leaving the room, and coming back in then switching back, but I never looked into seeding too hard?
A speedrunner would be better about that.
But if you don't do that the seed stays the same.
I got that on my first run with rail, second run was sword with wrong keepsake (when I gave up it switched it), third run with correct sword and keepsake gave same options as the first run
all three options are epic. but I want none of them!
attack is the least problematic, I guess
This game is addicting. I got it exactly 1 month ago, and already put in 105 hours.
kinda wish EGS put how much time you've played a game like Steam does but given runs take about 20-40 minutes and I've done likely around 200 of them (some of them I've done on saves which weren't "permanent" so I don't have access to them) I'd say I've probably put close to 100 hours in this game.
but granted that's been over a year
I keep my game on overnight in the background, so my "time played" is all off
EGS does have time played tho iirc
does it? I'm just blind and missed it then
it didn't when I first bought the game and in all fairness I didn't really bother to look for it cause I didn't really care lol
does anyone know how long Chill lasts? can't sem to find the info on the wiki
nevermind, found it
chill seems to last so much longer than the other status curses. interesting
Probably cause it needs to be stacked a lot
I thought its duration refreshed as you stacked it
rather, I assumed it and hangover operated that way
ah, they're probably separate stack durations now that I think about it
I thought its duration refreshed as you stacked it
@narrow inlet that's not how it works?!
yeah, I corrected myself two sentences later lol. thanks
No as in
oh I misunderstood
I also thought that's how it works
I honestly am not sure
Thinking about it, doom doesn't work that way
I'll test next time I have hangover, but someone else will probably swoop in and answer
well, doom is not a stackable debuff, though
sorta. it means extra hits makes a doom stack more potent, but it doesn't add extra stacks
To be honest, I have noticed Dio stacks go down one by one, rather than all at once
yeah that's the thought that makes me think they're on separate timers
Makes no difference if theyre a seperate timer or if it's the same, but constantly refreshed
Does it not?
aaagh. 50% gold chaos boon is great! an extra DD is also great! 35% cast damage on a cast build... also great! I want all three of these!
ah, when I say separate timer, I mean that each debuff is independent and does not refresh
yeah I went for the DD in the end
What build are you running?
poseidon sword + artemis cast
Is there any certain prerequisite for Aphrodite Legendary? or just any of her Weak boons?
...I had not realized I was so close to a boss room. the drawback was getting hurt whenever I used special. this is going to be interesting...
Oh lord
@serene yarrow no prerequisites, but god gauge doesn't apply with it
Naturally
1 tier 1 that's not god gauge + 1 tier 2 boon
I'm doing some runs specifically to finish the fated list, and missing her legendary and one Artemis boon somehow.
Go Artemis Aphrodite
Missing Hunter Instinct from Artemis. Does that need her Call or any Call?
agh. I leaned into healing/health at the shop to survive this special-less hydra fight. that was touch and go
God Gauge charges faster from cits.
Any call? or hers specifically?
Any
Alright haha
I have probably seen this boon many times but never bothered taking it
It's too trash
I only take it when my options are her cast, her god gauge or that
Cos I usually run hunting blades
Yeah, I did a bunch of that build.
Lol, I usually avoid Ares' boons.
Hera bow hunting blades too op
I hate when I get every piece except the Duo.
@desert nebula all his tier 1 boons are great though
Like both legendary + Hermes too
I'd argue only urge to kill is bad
I think otherwise tbh. Or I'm just bad with them.
But then no Hunting Blades lol
@serene yarrow I feel you
@desert nebula ever tried slicing shot with Artemis attack ?
The cast?
Build around your slicing shot and hope for hunting blades with whirling vortex, vicious cycle, black metal , dual shot , fully loaded
The cast?
@desert nebula yes
Build around your slicing shot and hope for hunting blades with whirling vortex, vicious cycle, black metal , dual shot , fully loaded
And watch everything melt
No, I find Ares' cast the worst of it all tbh. I prefer Poseidon's or Bacchus'.
Yes.
It is fun, especially with Demeter's and Zeus' combo.
And I only take Poseidon cast if I got myself stuck in an Artemis Aphrodite build with Aphrodite on special
some casts are solid standalone (I really like poseidon if my build is single target focused)
I've never actually used the Hera Bow. lol
I'm focusing on maxing Aspects before even trying them.
I'm telling you, a cast build around hunting blades one shots Hades in 4 Hera bow rotations
Try them first. I maxed Guan Yu just to discover that I still suck with it.
I've never actually used the Hera Bow. lol
I pretty much only play Hera bow. Have been trying out Guan yu because I'm stuck on 11 heat
Speaking of which , how do you get 4th bow aspect?
Is there a 4th?
Is there even any so far?
:((((
Just be patient.
Oh well I'll probably stick to Hera bow anyways :)
But Chiron bow seems quite broken tbf
everything is broken with Artemis thinking about it
Does anyone else thing Spread Fire is kinda broken?
Does anyone else thing Spread Fire is kinda broken?
What is spread fire
Does Demeter's Ravenous Will affect Cast damage in a fully loaded Hera Aspect Bow?
Does Demeter's Ravenous Will affect Cast damage in a fully loaded Hera Aspect Bow?
Yes
It makes the Rail shoot 5 short range shots
Oh, that's neat.
It affects both the first attack and cast damage
But it makes it fire slower
But if you dash, it still does 2 shots really fast
So you can just dash back and forth killing everything
basically a dash = 10 hits against an enemy
zeus attack doesn't trigger 5 times on spread fire, does it?
It should
I don't think it does.
I usually go for things that increase base damage or Artemis for crits
I had a build once that somehow was getting crits near 100% of the time.
Hunters mark
yeah
That's a 70% crit + 25% crit
It was with triple special + rockets on the rail too
Yeah so guaranteed grits
And this was in a run with No Choice and Tight Deadline so
Crits
I don't even know how I got that build in that setup haha
I'll probably max Hera Bow next.
My favorite weapons have been the Rail and Shield so far.
I really like hera bow. but it's not something I prioritized maxing, personally
I just have Nemesis, Hera, Hades, and Achilles left.
poseidon sword and hera bow work quite well at lv1. while things like chaos shield and chiron bow really need levels to work well
guan yu needed levels before I could pilot it reasonably, but that's because I'm trash
on the other hand, I'm finding that I really like poseidon sword, so I'm pouring bloods into it before it's "ideal" from a progression standpoint, just because I know I'll run it a lot
One interesting thing with Guan Yu not being maxed yet, is if you are going for Fated List for using all keepsakes
I setup the mirror, used Guan Yu, and added extra damage with the pact so I'd die in one hit
and started a run with each keepsake that way
Wtf
Might take 2 hits to die if Guan Yu is maxed. haha
Imagine having a winstreak
But still very fast method
I did this outside of a winstreak haha
My highest winstreak is just 7
I think it was probably 7 in a row with the rail going up in heat each time, then I swapped to the Spear and died.
Mood
Got 1-8 heat in winstreak with bow
Then got to 10 heat , swapped to spear and died
Spear is my worst weapon by far.
Mine is shield
Actually, sword would be my worst
Cos I never tried shield
But sword I just suck at
Poseidon blade
Guan Yu spear
Chaos shield
Chiron bow (I love hera, but the out of bounds cast issues are a dampener)
Hestia rail I guess
normal sword I cannot play. poseidon blade I sure can
Idk which Rail I like the best
What does Poseidon blade do?
Extra cast damage
when you use your special, dislodge casts stuck in an enemy
well, extra cast damage too, sure, but that's not the main benefit at all
Oh ok
That too, but I always use it with Hunting Blades. haha
it works in a cast build
So the cast doesn't get stuck in enemies in that build.
achilles spear would be great with hunting blades, I would think
Hera bow
the buff is a bit more unwieldy, but way way higher
hera bow would be fine too, but the more it's maxed the more the benefit is wasted
doesn't mean its bad
Hera bow is by far best for hunting blades
Yeah , naturally
In my eyes, Ares arte and Arte aphro Ares are the two best set ups for Hera bow
I really love how everything works with regards to the pact / weapons / rewards.
Because you get more rewards with each weapon, and if you don't like the weapon that much, maybe a different Aspect works for you
what does aphro add? a status curse?
I really need to try more hera bow builds. I want to try dio with hera bow
hoe does heart rend help? I didn't think ares cast would crit often enough for it to matter
Much better casts for hera bow
@delicate arrow You haven't played with the Shield at all?
like what? I thought the fog at range would be fun
@narrow inlet no, when you run Ares aphro Artemis, you go aphrodite cast with Ares attack and Artemis special
Or ares special and Artemis attack
@serene yarrow nope, never
@narrow inlet you can cast fog at range just the same
You know if you beat the game with each, you can get 10 Titan Blood from the Fated List
Or to spread doom
I've just never used special as a main direct damage dealer (artemis) on a non-chiron build
fog can be cast at range, but I play on controller and it's a bit unwieldy (like rail special). that's most of the appeal lol
I've never managed to use special for main damage with Sword / Spear
So that when you'll get Ares aphro as duo and heart rend , you'll deal the heart render crit immediately, then you special for consistent doom stacks
But it's great with the other 3
fog can be cast at range, but I play on controller and it's a bit unwieldy (like rail special). that's most of the appeal lol
So do I, doesn't it auto aim?
it does, but it doesn't always aim at the target I want it to
also sometimes I just want to drop it near me for the damage reduction/bonus/area control/etc
With Hera bow you can't drop it near you
interesting. these are all hera builds I haven't thought of
yeah, was just listing an annoyance with controller
I've tried everything with Hera haha
wait I thought you could by not charging the arrow much?
ares cast on hera bow felt like it worked like that
Bow starting distance to actually fire is quarter distance
it would have some minimum distance, sure, but still way closer than auto aim would allow
Not on you directly
But yeah I guess
But then again
What would you rather take, building something around that or building something around hunting blades?
hunting blades for sure
I wasn't listing things that I think are amazing, just fun
don't have a good sense of what casts are good on the bow
Ah, I don't know I find Dio cast really boring
as I haven't run it since I got slightly better at the game
I do too, but I've never leaned into it as much as I should before dismissing it
the dio/dem duo was fun though
What does it do?
ice wine is possibly my favourite duo
Ice wine, is it not?
Yeah
ice wine is possibly my favourite duo
@quiet berry hunting blades
yeah. just a lovely amount of burst
Heart rend on Guan yu
festive fog launches faster, has a different snowy effect, and has an additional burst of damage
I assumed it chilled, but I don't think it did
So basically dual cast
@delicate arrow favourite, not most powerful :p imo hunting blades needs to be reworked and at least part of it needs to go to the base cast
basically dual cast that stacks with dual cast
^
Ah, I see
I got dual cast, swift cast, and the artemis legendary that run
7 casts in quick succession
all dual casted
with ice wine
everything melted. everything
I would try it, but the fact it has no status effect is a huge turn off for me
As my utility usually goes in my cast
I'll either have a status effect or hunting blades with snow Burst
I want to get ice wine and scintillating feast on the same run
you can still get snow burst :p
Yeah I guess
yeah, snow burst + dash was how I got status around. worked out well
this was a guan yu build, too
was not supposed to be a cast build
until it accidentally became one
With Guan yu I usually toss Poseidon cast with rupture and aphro special for heart rend
walking into the last boss room with 5 DDs. heh
@narrow inlet how
chaos legendary + tooth
presumably with artemis attack on that guan yu build? doesn't cast knock enemies away? seems counterproductive no?
didn't even use a single one of the 5 DDs. wellp
I've been liking athena and demeter attack on guan yu builds
have yet to try aphro special + artemis attack. that might be fun. aphro special is great in case you get charged skewer
What's the interaction of the rail's rocket special with cluster bomb?
melts everything
Nice
Whoo manged a 26 heat run
how long until the next update?
It's on the title screen. 17 days, to my recollection
a little over two weeks 👀
thanks, didnt feel like booting the game just to check
The first update since I started playing 😄
Ayyy, this'll be real neat for you, then
I'm so hype for the new update
New weapon
New aspects
Yeah, I got it like 3 days after winter update
yeah, pretty hyped for the new weapon. I didn't think new aspects were confirmed as coming this next update t hough
only been playing for 2 weeks or so, but have gotten 65 runs in so far wellp
I'm assuming there's probably another aspect on the way with the weapon
@quiet berry I appreciate your post in -feedback if only because it taught me that reaction time affects fish quality. thanks for that :p
I could very well be wrong
assumptions build unnecessary hype
you should see the amount of times SG steps in on the subreddit to correct people saying things like "yeah we should get a new biome/god with the next update"
We should be getting at least ten thousand new Boons, a new weapon, seven different palette swaps, and Zag for Smash Bros next patch
I think all of those things are within reach
...Feel like we already kinda have Zag in the form of Byleth, actually
They're kinda close
A bow, a lance, a sword
...New weapon's gonna be an axe, I can feel it
I'm at 151 attempts haha
Punching your way through Hades
"Come here and say that to my face, boy."
"I'll do you one better." PUNCH
Have escaped 30 times. so 1/5 lol
But of course it took a lot of runs before escaping once
axe, fists, whip are good guesses
but I think it might be a ranged weapon
if only because the weapons on the left are melee, and the ones on the right are ranged (so far)
whip could technically be some range
...Meg gives Zag one of her old whips
a medium range weapon I guess. normal attack is directional, special is an aoe whip around
...That's a thought
What if, on maxing out a relationship tree, you could get a skin for one of your weapons?
Based on the character
I feel like it'd be a bit much to unlock aspects, but cosmetic differences would be neat
While wielding the whip, Zagreus' voicelines are replaced with Johnny Test quotes
No
Yes
Has anyone ever had a fishing spot right next to Chaos gate?
I had this happen, and caught a fish + entered chaos on the same button press
Then my HUD disappeared until I quit / resumed
I sent in a report about it, but wondering if anyone else had seen that
I haven’t 😮
I have.
It goes away once you catch another fish, at least, but I haven't had a fish spawn in a place for me to replicate it since.
Zag gets mentioned here:
https://youtu.be/5brAr51ip_k
"Hey, Red, I already know all the Dionysus myths, and there's really not much going on with him - so why on earth is this video longer than three minutes? And who are those other guys in the thumbnail?"
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Oh, I wanted to give the summary of Aphrodite of your video but you changed it to Dionysus 😅
Gotta love how these guys explain greek myth with such a nice voice 🙂
Fists? Aspect of Kenshiro.
Damage dealt is delayed, but increased by up to 300% based on number of hits.
Aspect of One Punch Man
Aspect of Saitama
Guys guys. I had this stupid idea. What if last weapon are just boots.
Just imagine - Zagreus actually walking on lava and not taking any damage what's so ever.
And one of the aspects is just Hermes aspect which grants him an ability to walk in the air. Just imagine how much it would fix most cast builds problems.
Aspect of Thanatos
Thanatos is literally your companion
and he instakills everything
new joke weapon, you automatically take damage as soon as you stop
including cutscene
but you take no damage as soon as you move
Aspect of Hermes
Aspect of Usain
Aspect of Nyx: all room rewards are darkness
Kind of a double edged sword
Welp atleast that would be A reason to put on her keepsake
ah
okie
why cant i receive bounties even tho i have 34 heat cuz at first stage appearence zagreus is talking about not getting bounties
am i just stupid?
Bounties max out at 20.
@merry harbor Wait, really? Is that enough stuff to power up all the current (and future) aspects and relationships? Wouldn't stuff like Ambrosia not be enough for everything?
If you accidentally lose some ambrosia, you can always trade in at the vendor, but it's 20 levels per weapon.
that's a LOT of stuff
After you exhaust bounties there is several other ways still to get every resource
Oh right, PER WEAPON
Fish, broker, you get some from prophecies and you can infinitely buy from charon
Yeah, much more reasonable with that in mind. If it was 20 total ever then I'd be worried
I maxed out all relationships and I'm about to max out companions, and I'm at about 5 heat with each weapon. Yeah, there's more than enough for everything
I'm visiting my grandparents in southern Italy, and I realised I'm super close to where "historically" Persephone ended up after escaping Hades. I'll let you know if I see her lol
Nice.
"I have two common boons and an Epic, so I'll grab the rarity upgrade from Euridyice!"
Upgrade: Hits one of the unleveled commons and the Epic
At least it was the one for my special but, jeez
Geez 20 per weapon? And I still have too much of the stuff...
Oh wait i misunderstood XD
Ideally, yeah, because both had gotten a level up from nectar.
instead of the already good special
Worked out though, considering I got two Chaos rooms with special damage but at the time it just felt sillly.
Wait, no, it was the epic that had gotten a nectar, I'm smart.
A brilliant idea came to my mind now :D What do you think about making a bonus mode where you could play for Thanatos? ☠️ 😸
9999 dmg Pew-Pew
A truly wonderfull Idea would be the Underworld Tycoon where we play as Hades himself managing the dead and building mazes for your son to die in.
The underworld sure have lots of people with weird fetish
um, this really isnt the server to discuss that, though
I saw Thanatos do 12499 damage before. Not sure what status effects or whatever were in play.
That's +25% bonus damage. I guess it's 1 rank of Privileged Status, or maybe Sweet Surrender?
how to complete The Gift of Song guysssssss
i've seen than do 30k crits with marked
how to complete The Gift of Song guysssssss
@warm dove play the harp repeatedly after each run. Several times each time. Eventually you'll get it. Don't forget to talk to Orpheus - he provides some tips once or twice.
thanks alot
Shattered shackle boosts thanatos damage too
Does a Trial of the Gods count for your keepsake boon?
You really need to play the harp a lot for the Gift of Song. Like.. a lot.
I only just finished it and it takes a lot of playing. It seems each time the playing gets better Orpheus will have something new to say. (After another run that is. At least so it seemed for me.)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583419755608801312/681923008994213898/20200225205742_1.jpg need help with deciding which boon to purge
Low Tolerance
F
what weap?

