No, you can still reload
#h1-discussion
livid cargo
tribal zealot
double strike thunder flourish zeus shield with zeus legendary is absurd and i love it
light blaze
@livid cargo Ah okay, thanks
rough wolf
i've gotten to the point where i can't gift dusa or megaera any more nectar, how do I give one of them an ambrosia bottle?
rough wolf
ah right, i haven't checked my prophecies in a while so it's probably there but i haven't seen it
ty
fierce rock
Np 
full fern
i've gotten to the point where i can't gift dusa or megaera any more nectar, how do I give one of them an ambrosia bottle?
@rough wolf for dusa, you need to upgrade the dinning area after your prophecies is updated. for meg, i think you need to fight the furies for a certain amount of times. for me, it took a very long time before meg finally unlocks. than unlocked earlier than meg in my playthrough.
coral axle
@rough wolf an easy way to do meg is to do turn on extreme measures 1, you're guaranteed to meet meg in nearly every run as long as she is a main sister or assist sister
cunning yacht
em i found a bug within the game but i dunno where to report it
hexed smelt
@cunning yacht To report bugs, please press the F10 key on your keyboard while ingame and fill out the form it gives you!
cunning yacht
oh ty
desert nebula
I am wondering: Has anyone counted the number of rooms in a run?
full fern
I am wondering: Has anyone counted the number of rooms in a run?
@desert nebula i think the highest possible chambers per run is 69 (clear all stygx chambers) and each region has like 13 chambers (including chaos chambers) before you meet the bosses. https://i.imgur.com/ygSRWQt.jpg press B and check the upper right corner for the current chamber count.
desert nebula
So a chaos chamber replaces a normal chamber in the sense?
merry harbor
I've gotten 70 chambers for my max and I'm not sure how?
full fern
So a chaos chamber replaces a normal chamber in the sense?
@desert nebula that's what i noticed so far. seems to be the case for me.
I've gotten 70 chambers for my max and I'm not sure how?
@merry harbor ah now that you mentioned, i went and check, my furthers chambers reached is also 70 https://i.imgur.com/ti2aP6E.jpg
proud orbit
It happens if you take Chaos or Erebus gates right before the pre boss room
flat vapor
chaos/infernal gates will always take up a chamber unless you take one right before the pre-boss shop
the game will always force you to take the pre-boss room
full fern
https://i.imgur.com/nwZwzS8.jpg first boss usually happen at chamber 14, as in the pre boss room for boss 1 is chamber 13
on that same run, boss 2 appeared in chamber 24, https://i.imgur.com/ZtfQhzx.jpg does this mean act 2 has less chambers than act 1 ?
i think bosses 3 happen on chamber 36
broken sinew
71 for me https://imgur.com/a/mZA85ZU
carmine pecan
whens the new update?
full fern
whens the new update?
@carmine pecan i'm guessing 24ish days later? the next major update, new weapon! and maybe new ways to spend darkness? i'm at 5 fated authorities now so i need like 10k darkness for my 6th fated authority, then 20k 30k 40k 50k more
normal fjord
i wish we could go on a hunt with artemis
agile saddle
I hope enemies being pushed(or thrown) to out of bounds areas is fixed soon. It's super irritating especially on last boss
brisk trail
Chaos and Erebus Gates normally use a chamber, but if you get them on 12, 22, or 34 it will extend one room.
steady cargo
So you can't use the battie companion on bosses?
merry harbor
Unfortunate, but no problem!
steady cargo
Also I'm having trouble getting to the next round of sisyphis's quest line
Is there a trigger that I am missing? I've given him all the nectar and have the prophecy, but do not have the option to free him from the contractor
merry harbor
Yeah, there's two conversations that need to proc from two other characters.
One each, I mean, sorry, that could be confusing. Just keep bugging ||Megara and Hades|| until they mention it.
uncut gazelle
I'm about to take on the final boss for the fifth or sixth time. Haven't beaten him yet but this is my best run so far. Got three defiances, 211 health, so I"m hopeful
merry harbor
Good luck!
blazing crater
Just bought Hades! I love it! thank you for the hard work and dedication! This is my new epic to play through after Rouge Legacy which is on of my favorite games! now replaced with Hades! great job!!!
prisma cave
My highest number of chambers is 70. I am not sure how or when I got that, but, yeah.
Oh, that was in response to a really old post :P Hadn't noticed the time
jade grove
RIP 69 chambers
modern garnet
Does chaos gate give you +1 chamber?
brisk trail
Sorry question is there already a date for when Hades comes out of early access?
lusty stump
somewhere down the line in 2020
brisk trail
Okay thanks, just wanted to ask that and didn't know where else to ask
brisk trail
Does chaos gate give you +1 chamber?
@modern garnet I think so but then the heat ones should give you +1 too
vestal slate
No, chaos and infernal Gates are their own chambers and going into them means you're forgoing one chamber.
Boss fights always happen at the same chamber numbers
Except for the last biome
vocal thorn
chaos/infernal rooms are only +1 if they are at the end of the biome, because they can't replace the pre-boss room. To be more specific, if you are in a room, and the exit door leads to a pre-boss room, and you instead decide to jump into a chaos/infernal room, then you get +1 room, and that chaos/infernal room will exit to the pre-boss room
full fern
chaos/infernal rooms are only +1 if they are at the end of the biome, because they can't replace the pre-boss room. To be more specific, if you are in a room, and the exit door leads to a pre-boss room, and you instead decide to jump into a chaos/infernal room, then you get +1 room, and that chaos/infernal room will exit to the pre-boss room
@vocal thorn for example, pre boss room for act 1 is chamber 13 (https://i.imgur.com/smxKPNp.jpg) while pre boss room for act 2 is chamber 23 (https://i.imgur.com/AUtdmq6.jpg)
so lets say if we enter a chaos gate on chamber 12, chamber 13 we choose a chaos boon, then chamber 14 becomes the act 1 pre boss room. aaaaaand for the rest of this run, i'm not sure if act 2 pre boss chamber will be chamber 23 or not since pre boss chamber for act 1 became chamber 14 instead of chamber 13.
for the 2 screen shots from my current run, i did not enter chaos gates on chamber 12 and chamber 22 so the pre boss chambers are chamber 13 (act1) and chamber 23 (act 2)
yes, i am a low heat (most of the time, zero heat, now doing 1 heat runs to clear the prophecy to get 10 titan blood) player.
coral axle
if i'm not wrong it also happens if you force spawn 2 chaos gates in a row
i have 72 chambers as my max because of that and chaos gate before boss room
proud orbit
Everything else will be pushed forwards a chamber yes otherwise increasing the highest chamber wouldn't be what happens yeah?
coral axle
i'm honestly not exactly sure how it works
but i can confirm that infernal gate/chaos gate before boss room = everything pushed back by 1 room
and i'm pretty sure that force spawning 2 chaos gates in a row = push back by 1 room as well
wheat kayak
Anyone got any tips for the last boss? Right now my best bet is probably run Aegis and keep blocking like a scrub though I think my build ended up being too dependent on having multiple enemies to bash around the last time I had a go at it
And unfortunately I had god mode on so without it I'd be dead quicker
neon agate
Why do I have no permission to post in any of the groups?
mortal ivy
Go to #bot-commands and check the pinned message
As for the final boss, getting used to the attack patterns and having patience helps a lot.
neon agate
@mortal ivy I'm still not sure why I can't post in some of these groups....hades's sunray attack is broken af
wheat kayak
Aight I guess I can keep god mode on until I feel ready to git gud
Do I just dash like a madman when the map wide rays come up because they home on me and sticks
mortal ivy
Oh that one. You can hug the final boss to avoid the attack or go behind one of the pillars or hide around a corner
With the shield, you can just block it
wheat kayak
Oh the pillars
neon agate
Yes I can, and I have. But it's a bug nonetheless.
wheat kayak
Oh
neon agate
It literally goes through the pillars
mortal ivy
Afaik you need to have certain roles to post in some channels
mortal ivy
I'd guess early access. I have no idea though. I have both Hades tag and EA and I can post there
neon agate
OK ty for the help 🙂
coral axle
it's just early access tag
full fern
Anyone got any tips for the last boss?
@wheat kayak try:
use shield, use 5 titan blood +10% damage reduction (zag aspect)
use keepsakes in act 1, act 2, act 3 to get boons that help to keep zag alive
act 4 use broken spear point, level 3 gets you 1.5 seconds
i recommend:
**Aphrodite **
Heartbreak Strike (Your Attack deals more damage and inflicts Weak.)
Different League (Resist some damage from nearby foes' attacks. epic = Reduced Damage from Foes: 15%)
Broken Resolve (Your Weak effects are more potent. epic = Weak Damage Reduction: +15%)
Duo with Athena
Spent Spirit (Your foes' ranged-attack projectiles are slower.)
[Foe Projectile Speed Reduced: 30%]
Athena
Divine Dash (Your Dash deals damage and can Deflect.)
Sure Footing (Resist damage from Traps.)
Bronze Skin (Resist damage from foes' attacks. varies, epic can be 10%-20%)
Dionysus
Drunken Flourish (Your Special inflicts Hangover.)
[weakness + poison, 2 curses means you do more damage with mirror upgrade]
Positive Outlook (Take less damage while at 40% Health or below. epic = Damage Resistance: 20%)
once you have all these, plus god mode [starts off with 20% damage reduction and increases by 1% for each death you experience with god mode on] plus all 3 death defiance charges, i think you should be able to last long enough to beat the final boss.
oh, having max health of at least 200 helps too.
some general tips (that i follow myself), never take charon obal rooms, always take the other if you have a choice. save fated authorities so you can reroll that lone charon obal room.
take a new boon over a poms of power if most of your boons are of high quality (epic level is kinda like a level 3 common boon)
i'm just a very casual player so if i can do it, so can you!
https://i.imgur.com/qJO056v.jpg
novel wasp
Sup
played this game 2 days ago and i must say its too much fun
supergiant never disappoints
wheat kayak
@full fern thanks for the tips mate
novel wasp
also something strikes odd for me is that i know some of the fonts used is actually pyre's recycled font
like the name of the characters looks like norse runes to me but this is greek tho
it works in pyre in its "psuedo-nordic" setting but it can be slightly odd to see in a greek setting
errant pond
Or, hear me out on this, it's simply a result of how it's near impossible to chisel out curves in text
Or they're going for a more romanized style
novel wasp
if its gonna be romanized style there would be more times new roman lol
full fern
This is just the feedback I have from me for playing this game for around 11 hours for the past 2 days, some of the Q ability are very weird to me, and since this is a hack-n-slash game, to me. Only spear or shield or sword's Q moveset is more combo friendly than other Q abilities. However bow Q is really doing nothing due to its puny damage and its accuracy of hitting anything in the first place. (unless you have Athena's deflect which is perfect for it since it became a cone of protection) but again without it the weapon literally could classify as having no Q at all. If there can be a change I would suggest make the arrows' hurtbox wider in order for it to be useful?
Some of the weapons wants to make you stand still to operate such as bow and gun (bow especially) in trade off of its very powerful offensive move, but again it slows down some of the gameplay and wants you to play very safe and patient, could there be an aspect, or slight rework(?) of giving bow or gun a slow movement speed penalty when firing or charging?
i'll reply @novel wasp 's feedback here:
with 11 hours in, i'm not sure if FadeSven has unlocked chiron's aspect or not. full level 5 chiron aspect bow with 7 homing special shots (could be 11 with +4 from hammer) plus the correct boons will make the bow quite powerful.
also, bow has certain hammer upgrades that can increase the damage output even more.
personally, i like
**Explosive Shot ** (Your Attack deals +300% damage in an area, but charges slower.)
Sniper Shot (Your Attack deals +300% damage to distant foes.)
in one escape attempt, i have both of those (my normal bow attack does 50x7 = 350 damage to distance foes since i have ares's main attack boon)
https://i.imgur.com/YthJJGa.jpg
and if you get ares's doom on special, well, even normal bow non chiron aspect, you would be easily spreading that doom to many targets easily, yes?
novel wasp
@full fern yeah i suppose but bow or gun is probably my least fav weapons for being too niche upon a lot of choices
the gun is kinda fun but gosh when you have to dodge the bullet hell and wanting to return damage its kinda pain
with spear i could literally get any boons while keep doing the same thing while better
also its animation is short so i dont get psuedo stunned like .5 seconds in order to cast my q
full fern
make the arrows' hurtbox wider in order for it to be useful?
@novel wasp well there is some hammer upgrade that increases the "hurtbox" which is ...
Twin Shot (Your Attack fires 2 shots side-by-side, but has reduced range.)
DTA: i dun really like this since it reduces my range
Triple Shot (Your Attack fires 3 shots in a spread pattern.)
DTA: i'll take this if there is nothing else better. hurtbox increased nevertheless though.
with spear i could literally get any boons while keep doing the same thing while better
@novel wasp ahaha i'm not good with spear, so far i only got 1 clear with it.
novel wasp
No i mean the Q's hurtbox specifically
its so tiny
if not because the deflect's detection box is bigger and more forgiving it would be one of the smallest hurtbox to even do anything
spear is kinda braindead and since you can clear with bow im sure you can clear with spear lol
especially hades aspect, literal free damage upgrade against zag aspect level 0
full fern
No i mean the Q's hurtbox specifically
@novel wasp hmm i think it is supposed to be tiny 😆
**Chiron Aspect ** (Your Special automatically seeks the foe last struck by your Attack.)
after you tagged a target with main attack, press Q and watch 7 (max level, 11 if you get hammer upgrade) Q shots seek out your victim
novel wasp
yeahhhh what if i want the zag aspect
full fern
zag aspect of which weapon ?
novel wasp
bow
thing is that i like to see each aspect has their own good and bad
without one being super meta
full fern
oh that one gives 10% critical chance at max level
novel wasp
im tired of meta really
full fern
i suppose it synergize well with errr artemis and athena duo ?
novel wasp
not really
I mean artemis has an innate weaker damage boost
you better go for the pink lady
full fern
yes she's my fav
novel wasp
if you want raw love or damage
full fern
highest base damage
novel wasp
also her cast literally turns me into a doom character
shotgun ppl to death
also i wanna see my boi apollo
full fern
i'm mainly a
zag shield (+10% dmg reduction)
chiron bow (homing Q)
hestia railgun (single 150 base damage shot after reload)
player
novel wasp
its no fair if his sister is already shown up
full fern
yeah i hope they introduce apollo
sun god right?
its the underworld
why can't we set THEM ON FIRE
BURN THEM WITH FAIYAAAAAA
novel wasp
theres already so much dot type damage tho
novel wasp
what if they shifted some support ability to apollo
full fern
there's always the pact of punishment to make things harder
novel wasp
also tbh what if hermes has its own unique effect
full fern
and we can't meet every olympian in a run anyway XD
novel wasp
i would think of something like a decreased cast time in brief window
if you successfully dodge
thing is i like being fast, so spear is my choice of rampage
bow and gun is like sitting ducks, sure its doing its job but god i need to be extreme patient handling them
full fern
bow and gun is like sitting ducks, sure its doing its job but god i need to be extreme patient handling them
@novel wasp yeah, my clear time with bow and gun is slower since i need to play more carefully
novel wasp
new buff, demeter's boons are always have a chance of more than rare boon due to she loves her grandkid and decide to give him a frozen cookie
full fern
run here and there, avoid the incoming projectiles etc, get away from the mobs, stay out of melee etc
full fern
all right i gotta run, take care ya @novel wasp !
novel wasp
bye
ok my favorite god to make fun of both according to historical legends and in this game is Ares
in historical legend hes literally the dumb war god while athena is the smart war god
and in this game he has the yeeyee ass haircut
stoic quail
What are the "robed character portraits" that the faq mentions?
Isn't that just what they look like anyway?
Not sisyphus.... Charon wnd nyx
Most depictions of charon are robed like he is already.
knotty epoch
they should just replace charon's image with a very well drawn image of the moon
solar heart
What are the easiest pacts of punishment choices to deal with?
I currently max boss encounter enhancements and don't struggle really with the differences, but now need to add more
deep pivot
I’d say the blue heart/barrier one. It’s just 1-2 extra hits to enemies
strong heron
it's annoying for small enemies like numbskulls and hotwheels, but negligible for bosses
and essentially free 2 heat
deep pivot
I suggest Middle Management so you also get to see mini boss differences
solar heart
Running aegis at the moment so those stupid hotwheels are not much of an issue
Thanks for the tips. I'll give them a whirl!@
coral axle
blue heart is actually pretty cancerous at high heat and on specific builds
i'd say it varies based on what weapons you're using
chiron bow or shield? go for damage control
hestia? hard pass
sword/spear? usually i don't take it
narrow inlet
hiya. Was hoping to share a screenshot of my first spear win, but I can't seem to post an image into this chat despite me seeing a similar image a few messages above. Are there permissions I am missing as a new member of the discord?
knotty epoch
No, you have to use an image host and post the link instead
regal holly
just screenshot it with gyazo or such
narrow inlet
ah okay. I guess I understand that being necessary in an official discord
still fairly new to the game. I had not realized how bonkers things get when you deflect almost everything...
narrow inlet
Serrated Edge and Flurry Jab was a mistake, though.
regal holly
you will learn which things are a nombo in time
narrow inlet
no good options from my second Daedalus, so I took something to further the fate. did not realize that flurry jab would force one normal attack after a dash attack... no bueno
regal holly
thats annoying
yeah sometimes you have to take bad stuff for the fates
if you wanna finish them
narrow inlet
haha yeah
to be fair, this was a fairly unintuitive ineraction
sometimes it's clear when you're making a bad choice for the sake of furthering fates
this struck me as a useless option, not an actively detrimental one
really been enjoying achilles spear, though
based on what I've seen on the subreddit, chaos shield and guan yu spear are quite good and fun, along with chiron bow. those may be my next unlocks
been saving some bloods until I decide what I want to focus on for now
regal holly
im only using chaos shield rn
deep wadi
chaos shield and chiron bow are insane, i just got achilles spear and it seems sick
narrow inlet
what are the easiest heat options that people generally run? heightened security doesn't seem that bad
just unlocked chiron bow. can't imagine how insane this gets with more bloods pumped into it
knotty epoch
Reminder that the final boss is a spoiler
narrow inlet
how does Aphrodite's aid actually work? longer charm duration for the greater call, I'm guessing? I'm surprised bosses seem to be charm-able. Does it make their attacks not harm you?
Not finding much info on it on the wiki at least.
patent umbra
greater call adds 2500 damage, bosses have a shortened charm duration and don't target you
coral axle
greater call just does a boat load of damage
narrow inlet
ah, so for charm lockdown purposes the greater call just doesn't help you much. but for bosses given the shorter duration, might be worth just getting that damage in... got it
also - are the %ages on the wiki just estimations? Impending Doom says it should be giving 76% extra doom damage at rare, when I'm seeing 65% in game
patent umbra
Wiki is not always updated.
spark vale
hey, where's the right place for a bug report?
spark vale
ty ty
i have blade w/ a boon that makes its attack auto, and i found a way to boost it's attack speed way up from what seems to be correct
cunning yacht
there is something i been meaning to ask i assume that cloack thing on the relations means that will come in future updates or something right? and does it give u something if u give the gods nectar? like more chances for their boons or maybe more dialogue?
deep pivot
Yeah, they will get unlocked as the game gets updated
cunning yacht
so atm nothing new ?
cunning yacht
im also afraid a bit of spending my ambrosia hope its enough to last for future updates
quaint skiff
what i wanna know is when we gettin romantic options for artemis
cunning yacht
^ that would be nice i also like her
quaint skiff
rendrick don't worry about spending ambrosia, worst case scenario you can swap currencies at the broker
cunning yacht
didnt though of that tbh
quaint skiff
plus the rewards reset for each weapon every time you finish a run on a higher heat difficulty
assuming you beat the previous heat difficulty
silent pumice
I think I've actually maxed out nectar with everyone so far. Guess it's time to buy all those songs.
cunning yacht
yea i do the same with my diamonds buy the songs
i play quite a lot with like a 90% clear rate so hopefully before next major update i will get the songs and last thousand gems done
silent pumice
I had to save up so many for Sisyphus, but Bouldy was worth it 😌
cunning yacht
when u give to bouldy does he eventualy stop taking?
patent umbra
never
cunning yacht
so the point to give him is just to waste the nectar?
warm oak
Giving Nectar to Bouldy does give you a random bonus
crimson void
Does "fountain finder award" mean something?
patent umbra
Means you found the healing fountain room in all biomes
spark vale
@warm oak really? i havent noticed anything
warm oak
it's actually listed among your boons
cunning yacht
the gun with the shotgun daedalus hammer is so damn broken on things like poison and doom 😮
crimson void
Rail poison is just nice in general
cunning yacht
yea but for example atm im doing the duo boon for poison+weak it stacks in 1 atk lol
btw i wonder if there will be more fish on newest upgrades
no spieces i mean :d
opal mason
What are some of your guys favorite keepsakes and companions.
formal mirage
i love the chaos egg
chaos' boons are really interesting to me however i am a clumsy person and often need a lot of health so chaos gates are kinda "meh" for me
but w the egg.. free chaos babey!
glad lichen
cunning yacht
i get you i always want to get all those useless things :d
formal mirage
i love the house decorations :)
topaz canyon
terse holly
brisk trail
I'm saving up for the last unlock now.
crimson void
Oh my word, greater Artemis call is hilarious
Especially if there is only one target
VIBE CHECK
gloomy dragon
anybody got an idea why i cant write in #hades-feedback ? got no permission to do so, its not the slowmode
remote lily
Pinned message in the channel will give you the knowledge
gloomy dragon
ty
brisk trail
"That's a nice phase you got there, Hydra. Would be a shame if someone skipped it."
vagrant flint
@tribal zealot , wdym by
firing a seeking arrow that marks an enemy for a set amount of time, with that amount of time increasing with a greater call
?
plush dagger
probably additional damage while enemy is marked
tribal zealot
mark as in the artemis boon that marks enemies
tribal zealot
the one that gives bonus crit chance
vagrant flint
Oh, ok.
How will it apply to targets, though?
I mean, instant application to all the targets in the room or?
tribal zealot
just the target the arrow hits, like aphrodite's call
roughly 3x dps at most on a target for a few seconds would make it on par with invulnerabiluty calls imo
vagrant flint
Well, I think it makes the call very similar to Aphrodite's then, with only some changes.
plush dagger
I think it should be a trap instead? Like setting a trap on the floor would thematically make sense, and there isn't many boons that are stationary
vagrant flint
The Artemis' one at least allowed you to fire a whole volley.
I think that it'd be interesting to rework True Shot into a crippling net, but many people would be against that concept.
Tho it seems fun to me, especially if they would stack to slow down enemies more.
tribal zealot
fair enough on it being too similar to aphrodite's call
although charm isnt that great and they already share the same purpose with the greater call
plush dagger
which one deals more damage? I assume Artemis because it comes with the crit chance but I'm not sure
vagrant flint
Does it even deal damage if it's not full gauge?
vagrant flint
Yeah, I was asking about Aphrodite's.
Btw, I remember it dealing 2500 damage, so it could be up to 7500 with crits, but there's an aspect of luck involved.
So it isn't reliable.
patent umbra
Epic artemis lvl1 does 2004 on average
vagrant flint
Does great call damage scales depending on boon rarity or level?
plush dagger
it does
vagrant flint
Can you charm bosses with it?
plush dagger
it only lasts for like a second
vagrant flint
I only know that you can't with Unhealthy Fixation.
plush dagger
wait
placid spindle
hey guys... what if... Chaos... but with a glock...
merry harbor
You 100% can charm bosses with Unhealthy Fixation. Not for long but it interrupts whatever attack they're doing at the time.
There's a lot of footage in particular of it happening on the final boss, but I know for a fact it happens on Elysium's bosses and on the Furies. Just for super brief periods.
plush dagger
it is 100% and yes, normal call is mostly for interrupting attacks
carmine pecan
opal mason
When should you try to focus on getting companions?
plush dagger
once you got most of the characters' hearts maxed in the codex probably
jade grove
When you don't need the titan blood for ambrosia.
flat vapor
whenever you want to
jade grove
If you're building up a power base that matters more, new aspects to Heat up with, then once you can grind out blood effectively yourself, companion to make the higher heats easier...
But also, that
Whenever you like
Although I would say
Get to the lock asap
flat vapor
if you just keep playing the game, you'll get to the point where you're gonna get a companion or two on your own
desert nebula
When you fanboy or fangirl for a coupling.
jade grove
Because that starts the event countdown internally.
The later you get to the nectar lock, the slower it is to get the companion quest rolling...
warm oak
The skelly companion is my favorite tbh
formal mirage
i dont know what companions are yet (i may have been playing this early access for a while, but i am not very good at the game) but i KNOW i want dusa. i just love her so much
tardy thicket
maybe this is a dumb question but I just want to make sure before I buy the game, is the music included in the games? Like does the music change according to your level, places? Or do we have to buy the soundtrack part and manually play it?
deep wadi
there is a soundtrack yes
it's part of the game
wht game makes you buy and manually play the soundtrack?
jade grove
@formal mirage dusa hugs are always good 
desert nebula
Dusa ist qt. She reminds me of a college girl or something idk. Somehow Euridice seems like a WoC to me, and I dunno why my brain gets this association. (English is not my native language.)
jade grove
@tardy thicket Of course it does. And Supergiant games are always very focused on the music.
tardy thicket
cool 😆 thanks for answering
jade grove
"WoC tome" I read at first as some weird magic term
formal mirage
i love eurydice in this game!! one of my fave npcs to talk to
formal mirage
she’s so nice to zag (why still being critical of him) in a way the other characters aren’t
formal mirage
pretty sure that’s the point
jade grove
Good
desert nebula
Btw, what kinda English is that what Skelly is speaking? Is this a made up style of speech or an actual dialect/sociolect?
patent umbra
I get new york from him
jade grove
I can't recall, but it's something American or UK-inspired
Probably
Hey, is Skelly heavy?
I bet he weighs a skele-ton.
I mean he's immune to knockback
full fern
artemis is randomly 1000-3000
@tribal zealot any idea how much max health the final boss has ? my artemis greater call cut his ||2nd phase health in half and i forgot to put 2 curses on him!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWiGA83pR2o||i did apply boiling blood first though.
jade grove
@full fern Encase the link in <> to remove thumbnail.
full fern
@full fern Encase the link in <> to remove thumbnail.
@jade grove all right thanks! sowee about that !
patent umbra
17000 I think
crimson void
Do I have to give Orpheus nectar for him to teach me the lyre
formal mirage
same question i would like him to teach me how to jam out some tunes
desert nebula
I bought the lyra and played a few times.
So far the playing has improved once.
From awfully funny to actual chords.
So I play the lyra everytime I return home, maybe it helps.
Dunno what triggers progression there.
full fern
So I play the lyra everytime I return home,
^ i think this triggers progression
vestal slate
Play the lyre and see if Orpheus has something new to say after a run
Have to play it 210 times in total
crimson void
are you serious
deep pivot
@deep wadi Like, a fraction of their bar turns blue to know ❄️
deep wadi
the last 10% would be ice blue, yeah
novel wasp
does artemis in this game does not enjoy being a virgin single?
she seems to always complain about her being lonely, and wanting to date i guess archillis?
brisk trail
She's lonely, but not romantically.
novel wasp
idk she seems to always want me to kinda be her middle man with archillis lol
desert nebula
Fun fact: The Artemis Ephesia is the goddess of fertility, so if you need inspiration for hentai fanart...
desert nebula
leon haircut?
desert nebula
Didn't play. But yeah, Than is hot.
desert nebula
Dionysos at least shows some decent legs.
novel wasp
he doesnt skip leg day even in party
dionysus is probably the most questionable god among all pantheon
west chasm
Why does the front facing sprite for Zagreus makes him look so... Disappointed?
desert nebula
@brisk trail Even Dusa?
novel wasp
even his voice sounds so disappointing, all the time
not in the quality way but he just sounds not surprised, at all
so nonchalant
west chasm
Front facing Zagreus reminds me of WeirdChamp ngl
brisk trail
The first time Dionysus hit me with the "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed," I flipped.
desert nebula
I dunno, I find only, Thangreus and Dionysos hot, the rest...
novel wasp
Dionysus ultra chill
west chasm
Bruh i want Aphrodite's bath water
novel wasp
LOL
west chasm
That's how hot i think she is
desert nebula
But I guess, Apollo might be attractive as well.
brisk trail
That's only a little weird.
novel wasp
damn it dyno
west chasm
Why a little
radiant tangle
Hey, be nice to the bot
west chasm
It ain't weird
novel wasp
heckin belle delphine lookin ass
tbh i just like her boon
ok why is my hand being weird
novel wasp
TOPKEK
I like her BOONS BOONS
she has the raw power to wreck havoc that even ares cant
also some of the god trial combination is... interesting
like ares + aphrodite
would love to see their banter since they are secret lovers, after all
brisk trail
Aphro starts stronger but Ares spikes higher than any other god.
novel wasp
@brisk trail her cast is amazing man
west chasm
It's odd how Ares is the one god with the steady DPS instead of the all out face to the wall DPS
novel wasp
literal pumping love shotgun
ares is okay
i really dont utilize his blade rift too often
brisk trail
It is! Hunting Blades are better.
novel wasp
i prefer raw damage since yknow... i can aim
west chasm
Thing is, his blade cast is a meme
You lose about 50% damage (maybe less in higher heat) for unreliable dps
brisk trail
50% base damage.
novel wasp
zeus so far is okay
brisk trail
Which could be a lot or very little.
brisk trail
...So don't take it with Hestia.
novel wasp
yep
if only they slow them down as well
GRANDMA I NEED YOUR HELP
demeter is probably that grandma who is extreme salty to her daughters decision and probably smokes all the time
brisk trail
Slicing Shot isn't your primary DPS. Throw them at big groups for chip/breaking the last 5 HP on Armor.
novel wasp
also will unironically love her grandchild more than her son in law
desert nebula
She can't lit her cigarettes tho as it is too cold.
crimson void
I just finished a run with slicing shot and ares call. Didn't get the legendary ares boon until I got to the temple but the run wound up being more than five minutes faster than any of the runs I had done with other weapons.
proud orbit
she just exhales steam and pretends to smoke
crimson void
Greater ares call with cycle of violence, artemis's extra cast projectile, aand actually i didn't need anything else
crimson void
tjat
proud orbit
so like an aura around you?
crimson void
sounds a bit like what I assumed zeus shield would be
I thought it would travel to one spot quickly and stay there
proud orbit
love shotgun doesnt turn into hunting blades
brisk trail
You should try Hunting Blades.
crimson void
artemis can give you a second cast projectile
novel wasp
cause i dont wanna be thirdwheel
crimson void
give her nectar, then you can see her whenever
what are you talking about, artemis is celibate
proud orbit
get second projectile from her and get the duo so they go homing
crimson void
that's what I did, yeah
novel wasp
i will do that if i get my hands on more keys
proud orbit
also if you've got the luck for it get black metal from ares too
crimson void
it's like throwing a wood chipper at someone
brisk trail
then get three more
crimson void
that one's okay, yeah
novel wasp
let me have support fire procs every single enemies
so I can keep spamming bow q
and be braindead
proud orbit
and also engulfing vortex and vicious cycle
you know just like every ares blade rift boon
crimson void
yeah
proud orbit
then it's good!
novel wasp
also god trial artemis vs aphrodite
crimson void
I mean, lots of the op stuff require a lot of stuff to come together
novel wasp
i got this once and too bad they dont have specialized convo
crimson void
crit rockets is ludicrous but you need the exactly right hammers and a high rarity artemis special
novel wasp
would love to see them slxx-shame each other
brisk trail
I wouldn't.
novel wasp
i mean they are functionally contrasting each other and one dude literally died because of their love or not banter
brisk trail
But hey, diff'rent strokes.
crimson void
I don't really get what you're driving at
proud orbit
that doesnt really sound like the sort of thing that should be in the game lol
novel wasp
Artemis is the goddess of virgin herself
crimson void
probably not
desert nebula
@crimson void Well, he is right. Her priests were virgins afaik.
proud orbit
they have a duo conversation ||where aphrodite pokes fun at artemis and alludes that she has a crush on zag||
crimson void
I know artemis is the patron of virginity
proud orbit
their duo is crits deal +150% damage to weak targets
novel wasp
interesting
crimson void
right
crimson void
what's the one with slow projectiles, i get that all the time
brisk trail
Spent Spirit, Aphro/Athena.
novel wasp
also heppy and apollo as new god please
brisk trail
We've got all the Olympians we're getting.
crimson void
dang, really?
desert nebula
Yeah, I'd be in for Apollo.
crimson void
apollo would be super cool
novel wasp
i mean there is SO many gods
some are kinda unrelated such as Hebe
and Hera too i mean she has an aspect so thats enough
crimson void
it'd be sick if we could at least get art for the more famous olympians that aren't in the game already
novel wasp
and is probably too busy to deal with the 7% of greek popularity
crimson void
i love the artstyle
novel wasp
idk why ppl call hera a bih but i think shes really trying her best to make sure the family not falling apart
zadok you need to stop
lol
desert nebula
a bih?
novel wasp
dyno will block that word
desert nebula
Ah.
novel wasp
is there any words thats more suitable
crimson void
harpy, shrew
novel wasp
i guess bad woman? but it really doesnt help
signal spoke
Schpoon is right, try not to dodge the filter, please.
novel wasp
i try tho
crimson void
debatably, hera is a yandere
novel wasp
hey its zeus who keeps swooning the ladies
brisk trail
...Maybe?
desert nebula
Are there even homo relations amongst the gods?
crimson void
ganymede can be read that way
desert nebula
I thought the Greeks relegated that to misogynistic philosophers.
novel wasp
Apollo literally has all of the lovers that either jumps off cliff or just turn into a flora by him because they died in some way
crimson void
spartans thought philosophy was for geeks but strongly preferred homosexual relationships with the boys
novel wasp
cause whats more manly than two men amiright
crimson void
to the point that you were supposed to act as though doing it with your wife was something embarrassing and shameful
novel wasp
spartan goes ultra homo
crimson void
more because they thought people would fight harder if the love of their life is on the line
novel wasp
i thought they treat women better though
compared to athens
where women are literally toys for trade
crimson void
debatably.
it's actually fairly rare for women to really be relegated to mere chattel
desert nebula
Well, Athens sells them, Sparta sthrows them off the cliff...
crimson void
we tend to read that into societies where marriage is bought and sold like a good or service without consulting the woman
they revered their mothers but didn't revere their wives
the spartans, that is
novel wasp
its a distant society
full fern
they are not adding any more olympians?
novel wasp
and our standards does not apply to theirs very well
crimson void
their society eventually wasn't able to keep the helots in line because there weren't enough little spartans
novel wasp
@crimson void they beat athens lol
desert nebula
@full fern They will in a few weeks.
novel wasp
infact the most merciful way, they still keep all their culture
crimson void
temporarily, and then athens wound up being the hegemon of the delian league
novel wasp
they didnt try to wipe it like athens would do to them
if not because of them athens knowledge wouldve long gone
tbh
crimson void
and then it all stopped mattering because the macedonians wiped the floor with both of them tbh
novel wasp
Roman: athens 2 electro boogaloo
desert nebula
The macaronian.
crimson void
oh that was much later, man
novel wasp
macaronian lol
crimson void
macedonian
Rome and athens...I would tend to disagree strongly.
Athenian ideas of like
novel wasp
also cough islam, wiping floors left and right just like the christianity
god i sometimes really think history just keeps repeating itself
crimson void
dude you can't keep leaping forward a thousand years at a time
are you just talking about iconoclasts?
west chasm
It's actually a very complex theme
For example, greeks had nothing against men marrying eachother
crimson void
I don't think Rome really integrated athenian ideas of academia
desert nebula
Also, if it wasn't for the Ottomans, a lot of ancient Greek texts wouln't have made it through time.
west chasm
But... Being the "catcher" to say the least was also giving up your credibility as a man
crimson void
the rich and idle toyed with philosophy as a hobby or fad
desert nebula
And the Arabs.
novel wasp
without them being tarnish them slightly as well @desert nebula
crimson void
yeah, the romans viewed sex in a sort of combative and predatory way
novel wasp
but again christianity is not getting away from what theyve done to greek knowledge as well
crimson void
I ZAG'd you, that means I win and you lose, I'm very manly and you're a sissy
desert nebula
I think, we should move this discussion to off-topic.
crimson void
probbaly
novel wasp
Hmm
west chasm
Also a lot of history is lost since in many wars, the victor would erase mythos of gods they did not adore
novel wasp
Yep
Eygpt style
literally claims it to their own
also norse is just really sad imo
west chasm
This happened more with the Roman pantheon tho
west chasm
Also i'm curious why Hades has nothing regarding Ares' chains now that i think about it
signal spoke
Zadok is correct, please continue this discussion in #off-topic-discussion.
west chasm
When i see his sprite, i say "Yep that guy likes war" But neither his design nor boons reflect Ares' connection to chains
novel wasp
also be depressed
west chasm
Not a complaint tho, just an observation
desert nebula
Which connection to chains?
I only remember him being caught in a net by Hephaistos, but chains?
It must have slipped me.
west chasm
You see, his statues would usually be covered in chains
We didn't cover much of the greek pantheon but i'm very sure
jade grove
People thirsty about Aphrodite be like: "I'm a fan of big... boons"
crimson void
See, if there's an attack where I would want aphrodite's boon for the damage, I'm usually going to have even more fun with artemis crits
west chasm
Thing is... Aphro has a status effect
So that can be combined with another one for... More damage
Crush shot and demeter on cast boon is an obscene combination on top of that
novel wasp
EEEYUP
When girls unite
Nuking the scene
Demeter, angry grandma that still doesnt know his grandson is tryna meet his mom
Aphrodite, love shotgun everywhere
also i see everyone in the mod is enjoying having the nickname related to Demeter
meager shuttle
SO, Found a bug. but not sure if its noted yet or not. At some point my camera stops following the mouse. That point is after dying and returning to the house. the first run the camera works properly
alpine mural
any tips on "deepening your relationship with Megaera"?
flat vapor
max out her nectar hearts and keeping winning against her, and keep talking to her
you’ll get to the events needed eventually
alpine mural
iv'e maxed her out like 15 runs ago and have gotten next to no new dialogue every run
novel wasp
btw is there a meme channel
modern garnet
All channels are meme channels
novel wasp
I have an urge to post the parallelity of leon and thanatos
flat vapor
you can post memes you made in #fan-works
dusk night
how can you block with the shield? is it an upgrade? or am i missing something?
dusk night
doesnt that just charge the shield for the rush attack?
regal holly
it blocks stuff too
dusk night
ohk I never noticed
does it say that anywhere?
damn no wonder i aint as good with the shield, i play a dash attack build whenever I use it
hey congrats on the streak mate, whats the highest heat run youve done so far? @regal holly
tawny patio
I believe when you pick up a weapon in the backyard, the game display a series of moves you can do on top of the screen, no?
regal holly
dont know if it explicitly says you can block
im on heat 15 @dusk night with chaos shield
the streak is from 0 heat to 15
i have 20 clears only i think
knotty epoch
regal holly
im on 1-3 on the other 4
just playing shield till i lose a run
wasnt expecting to get 15 in a row 
i honestly havent even gone to my last life yet
solar patrol
shield 
dusk night
fair enough I only started playing a week ago, but I bought the game the day it released on steam
regal holly
solar patrol
i've got 90 hours played and not a single completed run with the shield lol
dusk night
yeah even shield dashing like i do most runs, I stomp, ive cleared a run in under 20 mins with the shield and am on the highest Heat with it
hexed pilot
im still really low heat with the shield relative to my other weapons, it's just not very engaging to play
dusk night
dash attack builds with the shield are alot of fun imo, you're so fast and hit hard
regal holly
i keep getting very close to sub 20
solar patrol
my resume pretty much https://i.imgur.com/7zB0Eb3.png
regal holly
but its hard with middle management + jury summons + mob hp
dusk night
for sure whim
hexed pilot
middle management makes the skelly summon way more relevant
dusk night
indeed Veritas
dusk night
the rest arent as good imo, altho i dont have Sisyphus's yet, so i cant say that for sure
primal whale
I wish they'd list the heat that a given time was cleared at
hexed pilot
it makes the giant stomping head thing + megagorgon fight sooooo much easier to clear
solar patrol
i didn't know Hades' green summon things counted as traps, in my last run an hour ago i got hit for 150 and i was shook
hexed pilot
a lot faster too
solar patrol
and it ended my run
dusk night
so does festive fog or anything that can get rid of armour + just fast attack speed
regal holly
im debating removing it cuz im dumb
hexed pilot
wracking
dusk night
i always forget to use my summon
primal whale
I think it's not bad you just have to be careful
It took me a long time to get used to my summon
hexed pilot
cursed slash + hightened security is a good way to feel maximum stupid in the temple of styx
primal whale
probably went through like 10 runs that I lost that i could have won if rememberd my companion
solar patrol
idk if it's a good thing or not to know that those things are gonna hit me for 150 now..
hexed pilot
if you line it up properly entire elite fights are just you railing on the back of them all
and not getting hit
and instead of them jumping around all over the place they stay near skelly
dusk night
I'll constantly say to myself, "remember to use your summon" yet i always go through runs without activating when it could have easliy saved me
primal whale
I think its because you spend a significant amount of time playing without it
hexed pilot
skelly is also a great distraction for Asterius on extreme measures
dusk night
^^
solar patrol
i always ALWAYS forget i have a companion
primal whale
So naturally it takes time to get used to
I use sisyphus 95% of the time, unless I have high enough heat to reduce healing
primal whale
Exactly, it takes a long time
dusk night
you need to gift nectar to the right people
primal whale
so getting used to when to use it takes a while as well
sand stump
Even after that, doing their favour take time
dusk night
sometimes its simple tho
primal whale
You can look it up online if you want to stream line it
you can force deaths to make it even fast
er
dusk night
^just die 
dusk night
yeah same, i did a max heat run to see how insane it was
other than that i always go as far as i can
altho ill play in bed at 3am sometimes, and throw runs cause im half asleep
primal whale
Haha i did the same
is it higher max heat on hell?
The probelm with max heat is it becomes 99% rng
dusk night
oh ive never played on hell mode
hexed pilot
hell mode makes you take a minimum amount of heat
hexed pilot
it's a separate mode for the save file
primal whale
It's a separate mode barely
hexed pilot
the pact of punishment is active from the start
hexed pilot
and you have to turn on the minimum heat to even begin a run
solar patrol
to play in hell mode you have to start a new game? like from 0? i've never tried it
sand stump
What is the difference?
primal whale
@hexed pilot it adds personal liability as a heat, do you know what it does?
Are there standard invul frames after taking damage or does it only apply to broken spearpoint
hexed pilot
im pretty sure it completely disables invulnerability
regarding the impervious shield
as in, you will not be saved from being stunlocked from getting cornered
the other thing is that there are enforced heat modifiers on hell mode
primal whale
The way I interpreted it was that there was a base damage you have to take to trigger an impervious shield for an unknown amount of time and that personal liability doubled that baseline damage
Yeah i've been on hell a little bit. Do the enforced heat modifiers change every run?
They seem to be the same but it felt like there might be a few that they switch between
proud orbit
The enforced ones never change
It completely disables the shield
Source: got one shot from 200 hp by a splitter
primal whale
I guess that makes sense considering its a 100% reduction on the base number
lime token
What is the most likely choice for the new weapon?
brisk trail
nobody knows yet, all we have is speculation/hopes
empty ferry
i hope for melee, because we only have one melee weapon
spear and shield don't count
snow sail
agreed. double dagger would be cool
dusk night
^^
its most likely going to be another ranged weapon tho surely?
I feel like considering itll be next to the other ranged weapons, it may be something like the spear that works primarily at range but also has good close combat capability (Spear being the opposite ofc)
hexed pilot
i'd strongly prefer a melee weapon, the sword is the only one. spear ends up leaning into the special builds a ton, shield is the.. shield, so.. eh
vocal thorn
I’d like a melee weapon, like the sword, that actually scales well in high heat. The sword is kind of garbage on high heat, if you don’t have the perfect combo of boons
novel wasp
How do you report bugs
knotty epoch
F10 in-game
novel wasp
I cant attach images though
novel wasp
proud orbit
Upload it somewhere and put a link there
knotty depot
Guys, thinking about buying this game in steam too (when price drops somewhat, because have it in es), is there any problem with porting save from es to steam?
formal mirage
what is yall’s favorite track in the ost so far?
lusty stump
I suppose Than's theme
oak wind
i like scourge of the furies, the theme that plays in the asphodel boss and ||the one that play's in patroclus' room||
novel wasp
tbh i dont really have one
formal mirage
those are all good choices
a bit basic but i love hades’ .. reuse of motif’s/melodies always hypes me up
novel wasp
Iol
I crank my sfx sound all the way up
and the only thing i hear is the slashing noises of my sword or spear
jade grove
Tbh God of the Dead is metal as hell
plush dagger
Gates of Hell
stoic quail
The music in the styx satyr tunnels really reminds me of a particular infected mushroom track
opaque nexus
Asphodel boss theme is a bop
merry harbor
I'm still a huge fan of Good Riddance, but it's hard to name a specific favourite.
feral hornet
From Olympus - the Patroclus' theme, really suits him I'd say
amber garden
I also always do troves now. When they cost keys, I almost never did.
opaque heron
@deep pivot Forgive the ping, but the Rail’s Cluster Bomb fires all 5 shots at once, so you can get that general sense of when you can bombard again. Though I do agree; it’d be nice (if only for the sake of Triple Bomb) to have a concrete element to show when you are able to see when your bombs are ready to fire again.
glad lichen
Troves used to cost keys? Ugh.
deep pivot
I know, but it’d still be nice to see the 5/5 when you pick the upgrade 
Like 5/5 > 0/5 lol
opaque heron
Troves cost enough; you’re risking losing hp (and possibly DDs) to get some hp/coin/darkness/gems back
And yeah, that’d be neat too
deep pivot
For someone as greedy as myself, I always do troves (except when I know I won’t complete it smoothly)
desert nebula
I usually take the money and gemstone ones. HP and darkness are a maybe.
glad lichen
I pretty much always do tribes except darkness now. Used to do darkness before the last few rerolls got mega expensive.
Troves*
coral axle
i think i pretty much have enough gems to max out everything currently in the contractor now (i have like 11k gems) but i still do troves that have gems in them, just because lol
the only time i don't do troves is if i'm near or at full hp and it's a healing trove
and i also buy all trove trackers whenever possible
even at max convenience fee
wispy lodge
My game crashed and, when I tried to restart it, Steam said it needed to update it. Now it's back to working without an issue, but I don't really see anything about updates or new patches. Did they release a hotfix or anything, or is it just my pc?
tulip parcel
Was wondering the same thing
crystal plume
what's everyone's favorite Call mine is Ares
crystal plume
starting to use Artemis's alot more
did'nt realize how much damage it did at max god gauge
alpine stratus
dio and zeus!!
deep pivot
Demeter’s because she’s a badass.
“They shall have NOTHING!” 😎
sterile peak
dio, zeus, and demeter are all fighting for the top spot
ionic blade
just got my first clear while i wasn't going for a full clear lol
didn't think my first clear was with a bow lol, just started playing 3 days ago and i love this game lol
full fern
My game crashed and, when I tried to restart it, Steam said it needed to update it. Now it's back to working without an issue, but I don't really see anything about updates or new patches. Did they release a hotfix or anything, or is it just my pc?
@wispy lodge steam redistributables
wispy lodge
?
full fern
steamworks common redistributables
wispy lodge
What;s that?
wispy lodge
Ok
full fern
"Steam said it needed to update it."
rustic geyser
If I do heat 2 run with a weapon I haven't done heat 0, will I get rewards for heat 0,1,2 in that run?
full fern
If I do heat 2 run with a weapon I haven't done heat 0, will I get rewards for heat 0,1,2 in that run?
@rustic geyser if u clear heat 2, u'll get heat 2 bounties.
u wont get heat 1 and heat 0 bounties.
deep pivot
Patroclus likes your visits anyways
deep pivot
You can do it~
full fern
i died twice in boss 2
this is how it ends
my 15 win streak
@regal holly i pressed escape to give up my last run when i ran out of death defiance charges and was low health when facing the final boss just now.
20 win streaks i ain't gonna lose that.
PATROCOLUS
WHAT A GUY
+3 lives
@regal holly well technically it is 3 half lives since each death defiance charge heals us back to 50% health
formal mirage
patrocolus has saved so many of my runs
starting to get why achilles loves him so much
full fern
well, i grew attached to my win streak, and i'm not starving for resources 😆
formal mirage
if u were allowed to add one olympian god to hades as a boon giver who would it be and what kind of boons would they give
desert nebula
Apollo. Sun boons, that blind enemies for a few seconds. And a lyra as keepsake.
deep pivot
I don’t give up, even with a long streak, because I would only be lying to myself 😅
Also, Styxbot is back, yay!
proud orbit
i think apollo would be good, but just give all of ares boons to apollo and rework ares to be more war-y
doom could be a ray of sunlight from the sky and blade rift could be a small sun you throw out
desert nebula
What would Ares' boons be then?
I find them fitting already.
Hephaistos could also be viable with fire boons I think. Maybe that's why the designers attributed the hammer to Daedalos instead of him...?
remote gazelle
Question - if I play this in early access, is it true that my progress will carry over to official launch??
desert nebula
Hera and Hercules are difficult to implement I think. So I assume those olympians will be left out as boongivers.
@remote gazelle No, as is stated in the FAQ.
remote gazelle
Hmm, copied from faqs below. I interpret that your saves will carry over to launch??
Will I run into horrible bugs or lose progress during Early Access?
We’ll do our best to prevent this. We have never wiped progress during Early Access development and intend to preserve saved progress through our v1.0 launch. If your game crashes and you lose progress, please check #h1-tech-fixes for how to recover save data.
desert nebula
Oh, I just read about the pomegranate being a symbol of Hera, so maybe that is already an indication, that she will only grant you levelups instead of boons?
@remote gazelle That's how I read it as well.
remote gazelle
Cool. Thinking of diving in here, it's just that wiped progress makes me weary of early access games...
deep pivot
I thought Pomegranates were Persephone’s thing
desert nebula
You won't regret it imo. Even if your progress would get lost.
@deep pivot The German Wikipedia article about Hera at least associates her with the pomegranate.
brisk trail
so, am i crazy, or do you lose the pierced butterfly damage if you unequip it?
and, if so, is this intentional?
deep pivot
You lose it
brisk trail
Ahh, well then. that would explain my recent hardships.
desert nebula
Der Granatapfel in ihrer Hand ist das Symbol der Fruchtbarkeit, die auch jene Äpfel bezeichnen, welche Gaia bei ihrer Hochzeit hatte wachsen lassen.
"The pomegranate in her hand is the symbol of fertility, which also designates those apples Gaia let grow at her wedding."
agile saddle
Would be op to build stacks on butterfly then remove it before Styx and get another keepsake
brisk trail
you say op, thats what iv been doing. because if you cant keep getting more damage from it, why wouldn't you switch to something else?
i mean, you dont lose the boons you get from keepsakes when you switch them out, so why would you lose the damage?
probably something in the wording i missed
agile saddle
Plume loses stacks if u remove it as well.
brisk trail
didn't know that either
flat vapor
because the active effect of the butterfly is a damage increase, like the active effect of a god keepsake is rarer boons and a one-time forced boon
when you switch out of a god keepsake, you're losing an increase to boon rarity
brisk trail
i guess i just didn't read the wording very well.
this does explain my recent failings tho
agile saddle
I have never used butterfly
brisk trail
It's aight.
i can stack up about 20% damage on floor one
after that, i just cant perfect a room to save my life
hence me switching to something else after floor one
calm laurel
Has there been an instance where the devs vetoed a popular feedback suggestion?
flat vapor
wdym
i mean, it’s not like the devs automatically implement everything in the feedback channel that gets a lot of votes
agile saddle
@brisk trail I run cosmic egg floor 1 and and sometimes 2. Bracer floor 3 and boss
flat vapor
they’d consider it for sure, but i’m note entirely sure what you mean by “veto” a suggestion
brisk trail
i do like cosmic egg
agile saddle
Losing 26 or 27 health early sucks unless running Guan Yu
Also epic chaos buffs are really good
novel wasp
I will destroy theseus the ultimte coward
west chasm
So i wanted to talk about this one interaction there is with the Hourglass keepsake
novel wasp
with my kitchen knife stygian
west chasm
If you have it equiped, then buy stuff at the well of charon, then equip another keepsake after a bossfight, you keep the extended duration on the items
deep pivot
Oh, really? That’s sweet
I love the hourglass but I haven’t been using it as much unfortunately
novel wasp
Same
Butterfly or tooth are both too good to pass up
Although idk can we get a heat mode challenge where only one random god can give you blessing from start to finish
This will def make games harder since you either have a boon for your skill or not
And no synergy
Imagine getting hermes tho would be fun
Also you can worship hard on your fav god if you got whatchu want lol
brisk trail
id like a mode where you chose one or two gods, and thats all you get
novel wasp
Two gods can still result in some op synergy
brisk trail
thats why i want two
either that, or for the trinkets related to the gods to have there pull increased
novel wasp
Lol all the way 1
Amazon Prime boy aint gonna save you
This guy has so many jobs he might as well be the god of millenial
cerulean iris
god of the hustle
deep wadi
alright guys, real talk here. who's the better singer? orpheus or eurydice?
brisk trail
Eurydice
uncut gazelle
Eurydice can sing better, but Orpheus is better at the lyre
uncut gazelle
Yo
deep wadi
it's definitely orpheus imo hate to say it
brisk trail
All offense to Orpheus. his ex is better at singing. and cooking.
but at least he will sing about things that matter, like Zagrious
novel wasp
I really want them to be together again
But orpheus need to get rid of that yeeyeeass haircut first
cerulean iris
nah, im saying he should keep the hair and stay (friendly) exes with her
brisk trail
He also needs to deepen his voice. when we first met i thought he was a girl
cerulean iris
shrug ppl have all sorts of voices
brisk trail
just saying.
glad lichen
Aw man, I just melted Meg with Hestia and I think I love this gun now.
novel wasp
Ultimate mode, Olympian hates you mode. You are on your own
west chasm
There's something deep inside me that feels... Broken
I discovered the cap for heat is 49 :(((
hallow cargo
50 on hell mode!
rich parrot
lusty stump
Nope!
stoic quail
It's my turn to ask about the weapon tomorrow
lusty stump
The rumor comes out: the next weapon is a snippet of questions about the future weapon.
viscid flicker
it is probably not a sword, spear, shield, bow, or rail (no guarantees though)
novel wasp
god grandma doesnt play around