She has good stuff tho
#h1-discussion
gaunt jolt
Even the duo cast ones are amazing
extra dmaage on festive is pretty cool
and the shards on the poseidon one gives easy double status
analog elbow
ya, she feels like a support god, but has some dope unique stuff
analog elbow
hehe ya
gaunt jolt
In mythos, Demeter is mother of persephone
empty ferry
cold fusion is broken
gaunt jolt
Which points out why she hates hades and helps zagreus
proud orbit
@empty ferry don't tell them
analog elbow
I've yet to try it, idk conditions but I'll discover it
empty ferry
they know
proud orbit
gaunt jolt
Which one was cold fusion?>
empty ferry
zeus + dem
proud orbit
Jolted doesn't fade on attack
empty ferry
no
proud orbit
No it means you apply the jolted status and they take damage every time they attack
Instead of the next time they attack
empty ferry
it melts theseus
proud orbit
Jolted procs deal a lot of damage
empty ferry
jolt doesnt stack
proud orbit
I think you just described cold fusion though
gaunt jolt
Iforgot the name, but zeus has one where if enemies are jolted, the jolt doesnt go away
instead has a duration of 10 secs or so
empty ferry
yes, that is cold fusion
empty ferry
literally the thing we were talking about the entire time
gaunt jolt
^
brisk trail
too much
proud orbit
"that one Zeus Aspect that does the thing uhh, you know the lightning one!"
brisk trail
god its so much fun to use
gaunt jolt
Its interesting
brisk trail
thats me describing my gameplay
gaunt jolt
I had poseidon on attack
gaunt jolt
Massive beyblade that pushes things
proud orbit
Neat but I think
brisk trail
sooo goddam fun
proud orbit
It would push them out of successive hits?
proud orbit
If they're against a wall they're gonna get absolutely shredded though
gaunt jolt
So they bounced allll over the place
combined withextra wall damage
was hilarious
I had it also on base spear once but on special
when it was still 150% speed+ range
with the bouncy spear
was glorious
Throw a spear and if anything is hit, the area just turned into a pinball machine
gaunt jolt
The one god i hate to see
brisk trail
mostly in styx
gaunt jolt
Aphro
gaunt jolt
her cast you mean?
brisk trail
her attack boon
gaunt jolt
does it give so much %?
gaunt jolt
huh interesting
brisk trail
every time i get it it gives me at least %100
brisk trail
omfg
proud orbit
Aphro has highest attack scaling in the game yes yes
brisk trail
the ones i like the least tho are poseidon and zeus
gaunt jolt
ALTHOUGH
My casts kept getting knocked out of bounds
and i couldnt get the hermes recall one
so
gaunt jolt
Zeus seems...sometimes underwhelming
brisk trail
yeah
gaunt jolt
the flat damage doest scale well unless you get full zeus
brisk trail
i honestly rly like artemis
proud orbit
Just take eris rail and you'll be praying to Zeus
brisk trail
i love going w nemesis sword and critting people to death
proud orbit
Does what work
Oh
No you only get one guaranteed
But the rarity increase continues to work
brisk trail
yeah im going with eris and i got the zeus attack
god its fun
and i got support fire too so my screen rn is a thousand of things
gaunt jolt
ah
proud orbit
So it applies poison in an aoe and stuff
analog elbow
yea
gaunt jolt
really?
proud orbit
Yeah
gaunt jolt
no more poison?
proud orbit
Yes hungover lol
gaunt jolt
im not sure if its named better now
analog elbow
it's not
analog elbow
Intoxicated would've been better
proud orbit
Shoot enemies with drunk bullets makes them hungover
proud orbit
Don't worry I'm sure it'll change again
brisk trail
drunk bullets lmao
cyan umbra
intoxication isn't a bad name at all
brisk trail
imagine going to a party and just shooting urself with alcohol
analog elbow
How do you guys feel about fishing? I've seen people complain about it in feedback, but it really increased my net gem gain. In a succesfull Hades kill run I can get upwards of 120 gems. Last night I got 180 + 1 diamond.
proud orbit
What's to complain about
analog elbow
They suck at catching fish and get few rewards apparently
proud orbit
Just learn to fish or don't fish I guess, the rewards are obtainable elsewhere
analog elbow
if you don't like it, don't do it
gaunt jolt
when i got the fishing, i looked over and saw how many gems and stuff it gives
was suprised
proud orbit
Nothing exclusive to fishing
analog elbow
yup
gaunt jolt
got a couple keys, nectards and a ton of gems
vocal thorn
Fishing is ok if I’m not on a tight deadline, but I’m not going to waste time searching/dashing to a fishing spot when I’m on a tight deadline, regardless of whether or not the timer stops specifically when I’m fishing
proud orbit
Oh I don't fish either since I'm always on deadline
But I'm just saying there's not much to complain about
brisk trail
i sometimes forget im on deadline and like
fish and do stuff
like look at the rewards and consider them
and then i remember i gotta hurry lmao
btw i think time stops while you fish
not sure but i did see the time not being shown while you fish
flint fossil
It wasn't like this on release though.
brisk trail
yeah
flint fossil
It ticked down my timer when I fished on update release 
analog elbow
yea.. I pretty much stopped using the deadline since I beat 32 heat
having to go fast all the time is kinda stressful for me
what heat are you guys on?
proud orbit
Nah gotta go fast
analog elbow
to each their own hehe
proud orbit
My best clear is 33
analog elbow
Niiice
proud orbit
If I'm using the rail I try to do higher
analog elbow
But what heat are you playing on normally, i'm guessing you're not doing 33 heat attempts all the time
proud orbit
With other weapons I like to play around 20
analog elbow
ah gotcha, that's cool 🙂
flint fossil
I'm finishing up doing 32 heat for the last two weps then idk what I'll do
proud orbit
Gotten to elysium on 42 heat but no further
flint fossil
Probably goof around with some aspects or builds
proud orbit
analog elbow
that's neat @flint fossil
What weps do you have left?
What do you think about the spawns in Elysium? I think they cranked the numbers up too high lol
proud orbit
I think too many enemies spawn yes
analog elbow
Some rooms seem to never stop spawning enemies..
proud orbit
The miniboss rooms are often a relief compared to normal ones
analog elbow
true that
flint fossil
Bow and Sword are the two weps left for 32 heat
I think Bow will be a breeze with this one build I've recently liked
analog elbow
I mean, I had to fight about like 8 shield guys and other stuff for 5 gems LUL
flint fossil
Sword will probably be a Poseidon sword run too
proud orbit
Shields woo
Best way to play sword is pick the one that makes you use your sword as little as possible
analog elbow
Good luck! @flint fossil Bow is pretty chill, sword is hard imo
analog elbow
f those cats
flint fossil
I actually think the sword run would go easier if it wasn't for the fact that I discovered a new build for Hera bow
analog elbow
no matter how well you dash, some will always explode your face
flint fossil
That just obliterates
proud orbit
Reposting this every time flame wheels come up tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_AQEGGwn98
analog elbow
LMAO that is ridiculous!
just throw some shield guys on top of that to get sniped from halfway across the map ❤️
proud orbit
vocal thorn
I’ve actually been using Dio’s and Ares casts now, even though I blatantly avoided them last patch
flint fossil
Ares cast is still poo without hunting blades
gaunt jolt
I love the flame wheels
little eagle
True
gaunt jolt
They easy
flint fossil
Dio's is good specifically because of Demeter's duo boon with it
vocal thorn
With the Zeus shield, ares cast made it slightly easier for things to stay in the shield ticks
(Even though it’s still the Zeus shield)
flint fossil
I'm still going to have to see a video of a Zeus shield speedrun or high heat run before I ever give it any credit
summer palm
@fiery skiff ...They nerfed the Patroculus Keepsake. It has a giant cooldown now. So, no, you can't just take the Keepsake and ignore poison anymore
They also buffed the poison's DPS
fiery skiff
I've seen the cooldown but it's not giant
summer palm
Ten seconds
fiery skiff
This keepsake still makes styx way easier
summer palm
Not sure I agree. Either way, you can get poisoned multiple times in ten seconds, so it can't be used to ignore poison
fiery skiff
I played like 20 hours since the patch and barely noticed the difference
lean ferry
it does make it easier, you can get to the water a with less damage
summer palm
...If you didn't notice 'basically no cooldown' going to ten seconds, then I have to question if you really needed to use it in the first place
Depends on what you are trying to do, Coffee
fiery skiff
For me high heat is 20+
20+ is when you can't longer take only stuff that does not hurt you
vocal thorn
Extol the virtues of the Zeus shield
summer palm
Trying to prove a point? Then I'd say 32, it's generally the highest anyone goes because it's the last Heat you actually get a reward for
lean ferry
highest ive gotten since the changes to heat is 8
summer palm
I did one painful AF run on 16 to get the Pact Prophecy done all at once, that was one point in everything. I'm not inclined to repeat the feat or go higher
RN just trying to get use to 15 for the Erebus gates
fiery skiff
Remember times when you could get 120 heat 
lean ferry
yep
fiery skiff
And something like x5 damage taken
lean ferry
i remember they used to give bonus darkness and thats it
would be nice if they still did that
i need more fated authorities
summer palm
I snagged the game off Epic for Christmas, used the coupon. Missed out on the 120 Heat days apparently
brisk trail
120 heat days were so fun
fiery skiff
I love pact changes, it became more fun than it was, but we still have stuff like "+400% damage from traps" which is so silly
lean ferry
back then the furthest the game went was the hydra, and later elysium
brisk trail
yeah the trap one skjdasjdkf
unique river
what is the highest heat rn?
lean ferry
45 i think is the max rn
fiery skiff
Especially on last boss fight 'cause his urns are also traps and they just one shot you lol
lean ferry
god yeah thats a horrible thing to have in the final fight
fiery skiff
at least we don't longer have 120 damage spin
summer palm
Really? I run the Trap thing all the time. Usually it's only when I do a bad dash in Elysium that I really notice it
unique river
I used to do the trap one when I did 1-2 heat, but switched that out for middle management and extreme measures (?? or whatever the boss pact is)
lean ferry
i always go middle management, extreme measures and calisthenetics program
maybe the trap one if i need more heat for a bounty
summer palm
I have a bad habit of accidentally dashing too close to the walls in Elysium and getting speared by the wall traps.
lean ferry
but i never put three points into extreme measures
unique river
surprising how extreme measure doesn't affect difficulty all that much
lean ferry
did that once, never again
assuming im thinking of the right thing
||minigun chariot theseus|| is not fun
summer palm
True. I really only get bothered by EM when I've got a bad Tartarus and Alecto drops those beyblade things, or on ||Theseus/Asterius. Theseus|| gets irritating to chase down with 3 EM on.
unique river
seems easier than first time seeing him on 0 heat
summer palm
Third boss is honestly more irritating and dangerous than the final one on most of my runs
clear rain
hey guys
if i get a boon
that inflicts doom damage after using my special
the nlater on
i get another book that inflicts a hangover after uisng my special
will i get bothj procs?
fiery skiff
yep, I've already told that third boss kinda messy with pact
clear rain
or will the latest boon i've chosen replace the original
lean ferry
nope you only keep the latest one
clear rain
ohh
lean ferry
it will be one rarity above the original tho
lean ferry
so if you replace an epic boon you get a heroic one
empty ferry
level
empty ferry
ranks are levels
analog elbow
yea, you can level your abilities
clear rain
yeah so everytime i pass through a door?
empty ferry
not rooms or encounters
empty ferry
no, like character level-ups
analog elbow
play the game and you'll see lol
clear rain
ive been playing for a coupke hhours
still got me confused
like i just got the one that says it'll give me +5 hp for every rank
analog elbow
Oh that's just a permanent change to darkness drops
empty ferry
every rank of it
what rank is it
no, they mean the mirror upgrade
for each + you click, you add one rank to that thing
analog elbow
Ooh.. maybe
mortal moss
Are there any darkness sinks other than just allocating them in the mirror?
vital dragon
No. Darkness is for the mirror
You can sometimes trade darkness at the broker?
But that's it
edgy pecan
supergiant did mention they're gonna do something about darkness during lategame in the future
so that's something to look forward to
mortal moss
I hope some sort of darkness sink will be added in the future. Once you get to 2500 it becomes literally useless then :D
Other than acting as a healing source for that one trinket
that's good to know, dan, thanks
lean ferry
if you press the patch notes button in the game itll tell you what they want to do soon, and one of the high things on that list is darkness
placid ibex
are there any other uses for the big bottles of ambrosia besides trading?
mortal moss
I would assume that it has something to do with keepsakes as the ambrosia bottles are displayed in the keepsake menu
I haven't discovered a use for them yet though
placid ibex
yeah, i noticed that too
...maybe if i get someone to max hearts with nectar first?
though i'm a long ways off that
mortal moss
Is there any way of sharing your builds in this discord? I see that uploading pictures is disabled in pretty much any channel
placid ibex
you can post elsewhere and then drop the discord attachment link here probably
minor hornet
the big bottles are also gifts for certain people, but you need to max their oj levels first
mortal moss
"oj levels" :D
minor hornet
they're also used in an upgrade process, too, and are fairly valuable, so I would recommend hanging on to them, rather than brokering them
placid ibex
aye, gotcha
minor hornet
also if you upload to imgur you can share the link here and it will post
knotty depot
I always have to buy blood, but there was once a diamond (and I need it) I have to go there with less gold or something?
radiant dune
Im wondering if this is a bug
Zeus Aspect
Weapon Upgrade: World Smasher
Bull Rush is a close damage attack for 90 damage
then second upgrad
i could choose "Your bull rush is now a piercing shot for 80 damage
so im like that cant go together
so i took it
and now
my bull rush
has no charge up time
its just an arrow
like ur using a bow
for 100 damage
wtf xd
because the close range punch removes the charge up
and then the arrow overrides the punch
but the removed charge up stays there
placid ibex
f10 it just in case?
placid ibex
they might decide to keep it in :p
radiant dune
yeah alright
tender tulip
Probably, lol
World Smasher + Minotaur Rush was probably the most fun I've had with shield attacks lately
torn sonnet
Is talking about the new varatha aspect considered a "spoiler"? or am i safe to discuss it here
tender tulip
It replaces your Bull Rush with a short range Bull Rush that comes out almost instantly
lyric frost
oh yeah that one
oh that plus minotaur rush is super fun
I just finished a Guan-Yu spear run with Quick Spin and Massive Spin. I think this is my favourite way to play spear now!
lyric frost
feels bad man 😦
torn sonnet
im a new player & I just unlocked the Guan Yu spear, its so good with quick spin & massive spin, I got a victory on my first run, didnt even use a single revive
I was wondering what happens when we upgrade it?
edgy pecan
guan yu be op af
lyric frost
the hp penalty is less severe
edgy pecan
everyone is winning with this
teal patrol
hey, whats with examining the heracles statue?
it just makes a noise like im moving something? is it a puzzle?
woven path
how do you get the guan yu spear?
lyric frost
I'm not sure what you have to do to unlock it actually; I've been playing this game since day 1 so i got it right away
since ive probably met the unlock condition already
It has something to do with Demeter I think though
teal patrol
it said something about having multiple aspects
woven path
damn it just says its beyond my reckoning
lyric frost
The final boss makes a comment about it when you face them
oh maybe you just need a bunch of aspects unlocked then
To make sure you've won a couple runs first
teal patrol
@woven path Achilles will talk to you about it
fathom wraith
bro where does thanatos spawn
ive played for like 22 hrs and i haven't encountered him at all
is there something i gotta do to unlock him or
lyric frost
you "unlock" him in the third area at random i think
and then he can show up anywhere
fathom wraith
third area as in elysium?
teal patrol
yea
lyric frost
yes
fathom wraith
damn,, guess he just hates me 😔
lyric frost
I forgot the name of it for a second there
teal patrol
he can show up anywhere in Elysium past room 3 i think
fathom wraith
if ive played that much and he hasn't come to see me at all lol
river ether
and you gotta get hit before he'll show up IIRC
fathom wraith
get hit?
teal patrol
and then once you meet him
river ether
If you don't take damage, he won't show up
lyric frost
I didnt know that
fathom wraith
iiinteresting
fathom wraith
i am not, just trying my best not to
saving up health and such
anyway ty for the info guys
teal patrol
you need to meet him in Elysium before he can appear in tart and asph
lyric frost
I think its just unlucky that you havent seen him in Elysium yet tbh
I dont think theres some condition to meeting him
lyric frost
yeah hes pretty cool!
fathom wraith
i wanna understand all the references and fanart
lyric frost
useful too
rain yew
Honestly I hate seeing him show up when I'm trying to go fast
lyric frost
his rooms don't affect the Pact of Punishment timer anymore, if thats what you're talking about
rain yew
Nah just in general I try to race him and I take more dmg than I'm willing 
lyric frost
Ooooh yeah just in general
i see what you mean
yeah if you're trying to like speedrun it then his room is definitely a bit of a punishment 😛
flint fossil
Aaaaa the water splashing sound bug is so annoying
I can hear it in the house now too
There are no fish here!
lyric frost
oh yeah thats a weird one
I've had it happen with the sound form Demeter's cast as well
flint fossil
Audio bugs drive me mad 
lyric frost
You can fix it by saving and quitting and then reloading the game
thats what I do since they're annoying
radiant dune
how to make a gif ingame :
edgy pecan
well done brother
patent nebula
congrats, I have gotten to Hades two times now and I cannot win against him
fast basin
i think i dread the bone hydra more then hades..
patent nebula
I have a question, does the blood and diamond expire from the bosses or after a time they don't drop it anymore?
Because they only give me darkness at this point
woven path
heat is unlocked after you beat hades
at every heat level you can unlock the rewards again
placid ibex
once you beat a boss with any particular weapon, you claim the bounty for them @patent nebula
after that, it only gives darkness until you get access to heat
patent nebula
@placid ibex so, I have to use another weapon to get that reward?
placid ibex
yes
woven path
yh
fast basin
should i be keeping all my ambrosia for something in particular?
patent nebula
oh, that is good to know, thanks
woven path
to use ambrosia you have to improve you're relationship with meg, than, skelly and sisph
vale kite
and dusa
woven path
oww i need the dusa one then
static wadi
Hello ppl
opal lodge
So, my aspect of chaos shield is lv3, bonus shields thrown 3. When I bull rush then throw I see only 3 shields, shouldn't it be 4?
static wadi
u may see it wrong?
opal lodge
Unless one is superimposed on top of the normal one, I only see 3 shields being thrown
Ah, the damage numbers seem to show that's the case. Looks like one of the bonus shields is basically on top of the regular shield. That's a tad confusing but I'll take it
static wadi
or mb it's not +5 but only 5
opal lodge
That would mean rank 1 aspect does nothing >.>
teal patrol
Thanks fated authority
Heart
Dionysus
Heart
Dionysus
Gold
Dionysus
fast basin
wow
brisk trail
Yeah, sometimes the Olympians are very insistent.
fast basin
i see a whole lot less hermes then any of the others from my experience
brisk trail
Hermes isn't a full Olympian like the other 8.
brisk trail
He can give up to 3 boons, and they can overlap, they're more modifiers to your stuff.
fast basin
which is the one that has all the deflect stuff?
brisk trail
Athena.
worn glade
hermes looooves to pop in asphodel for me, the guy pop 2-3 times almost every run
delicate arrow
Same honestly
void nova
my weapon tiers
S - Shield (awesome vanilla, awesome aspects, just great)
A - Sword (great aspects, solid and effective, maybe a bit simplistic, disadvantaged at range), Spear (good aspects, very effective and fun)
B - Bow (can feel a bit tedious, but great aspects, allows for nice defensive play)
C - rail (fairly often feels clunky, relatively boring aspects imo... still fun lol)
delicate arrow
What do you guys think of hermes boons?
brisk trail
Shield and Rail are S, Sword is A, Spear and Bow are B.
copper adder
Good for what they are
void nova
i like hermes alright but wouldn't mind if he was more impactful
a lot of his boons kinda feel like wastes
worn glade
i love nyooming and the +1 dash and the faster attack so love the guy
vital dragon
around half of them are useful and the useful ones are super impactful.
delicate arrow
I think he's kinda useless
Doesnt synergise with anyone apart from Athena's dodge
tender tulip
Getting +3 dashes off an epic boon is pretty wild
void nova
half the time i just really want flurry cast from him lol
vital dragon
Getting extra dashes is godlike. making cast/attack/special faster is also very good.
delicate arrow
And maaaaybe artemis
copper adder
I feel like some of the Daedalus hammer upgrades would function better as Hermes boons, like the sword flurry as a speed attack from him
vital dragon
Passive dodge chance is also great
tender tulip
and any of the ones that help with casts are nice if that's your aim
copper adder
Or in the reverse I suppose
void nova
yo how about a Flurry Dash boon hermes???
delicate arrow
What's the point of extra dashes if you're spamming dash attack with bow
worn glade
well he doesn't really have to synergize with anyone since his boons are all passives
sharp parcel
you can dash out of ||Hades'|| spin attack without timing your dashes
vital dragon
i mean if you're sword, for example, having extra dashes just lets you spam dash attacks a lot.
and dash attacks are goood
delicate arrow
I spam them on bow
Practically all I ever sk
Do*
I feel like kalista in league
vital dragon
Shield/Sword/Spear are probably the biggest benefactors of extra dashes
since they have dash attack synergy.
worn glade
am i using the bow wrong? cause i just can't stand it
copper adder
Makes sense, melee weapons would
delicate arrow
@worn glade probably, dash attack doubles bow powrrshot attack speed
void nova
i think the bow's aspects really helped make it more fun for me
but i still generally don't go for it
vital dragon
Bow is way more fun with aspects for sure
delicate arrow
I LOVE bow
copper adder
I didn't care for the bow but getting the right hammer upgrades and aspects improve it
vital dragon
I think I rank bow as my least favorite weapon
delicate arrow
Kiting feels so good
copper adder
Same ^
void nova
Flurry Dash - Dash recovers quicker, hold Dash for fully automatic dashing
ehhhh?? that'd be dank
vital dragon
Sword > Shield > Spear > Rail > Bow (note this is a fun rating)
worn glade
yeah, i just don't like it and i'm a dps
copper adder
I go spear, shield, sword, rail, bow
worn glade
varatha is my religion
void nova
shield, sword/spear, bow, rail
delicate arrow
I go bow, bow, bow , bow, bow
copper adder
Rail gets bumped up quite a bit with supporting fire and the rocket upgrade
tender tulip
I've probably used bow more than sword or shield
tender tulip
Chiron Aspect is nice
vital dragon
Sword's mega fun for me
copper adder
Just hack and slash
sharp parcel
with what, world splitter?
static wadi
@tender tulip Chaos shield is better version of Chiron aspect
tender tulip
I'd believe it, lol
sharp parcel
don't tell me you build dash sword
tender tulip
I need more titan blood to up my Chaos Aspect
sharp parcel
replaces attack with a 90 damage chop
vital dragon
and just you know
Special into autos
and dash around
I just like the visceral feel of sword
vital dragon
Since it's very no nonsense. The parts of your kit "work with each other"
For example, when you shield, you don't really throw the shield mid-combo as you wail on someone
dusk matrix
Chiron aspect + the Dionysus boon that applies drunk on special hits is probably a war crime
sharp parcel
I always go for world splitter with Nemesis
worn glade
world splitter is too slow
sharp parcel
it's big damage
static wadi
@tender tulip Chiron has some weakness
1 - Slow Special animation and u cant cancel it(So u need Hermes boon for it)
2 - Good for 1 target but not cool versus big groups
3 - You need Hammer for more arrows
sharp parcel
and big damage with Nemesis' crit is even bigger damage
void nova
i only wish i could choose to make it so that attack would not break out of the special animation
static wadi
and 4 - u have to keep distance
vital dragon
I take world splitter runs on nemesis if I want BIG BOY DAMAGE
tender tulip
Yeah that sounds about right
vital dragon
(though you don't usually need it)
static wadi
all this no problem for Chaos shield
sharp parcel
Splitter also makes any % based attack boons much better
which is literally every attack boon, sans Zeus and Ares'
vital dragon
I mean I know the synergies. I just like my sword gameplay to be more fluid and world splitter makes you clunky/awkward.
tender tulip
I had one low heat Chiron run where I kinda got around the group bit by having Zeus special with High Voltage and jolting, but that takes a lot of setup
like a lot of setup
worn glade
what marco said
static wadi
Special is fasst enough
can hit lots of targets
u can be cool without any hammer
AND YOU CAN BLOCK EVERYTHING
sharp parcel
that's shield lyfe, bby
tender tulip
Blocking is definitely nice
static wadi
@tender tulip with Chiron i lovw 2 builds
Aphro for attack and Ares or Dio for special with Aphro Duo
sharp parcel
it's kinda funny, shields in Hades being just as broken as they are in Dead Cells
static wadi
Does priv status works for poison?
static wadi
Dio even easier
sharp parcel
doom procs before expiring, too
static wadi
U want Aphro Attack and Dio Q and Duo
that's all
For ares u want 2 more boon for doom too
opaque heron
I haven’t played much but I had a fun Chiron build that nearly let me win my first run:
I got the Daedalus buff that gave me +4 shots on my special, the artemis special boon, and a hermes speed buff on it too
static wadi
@tender tulip try it u wont regret
tender tulip
Yeah I'll definitely see if I can get that going in a run sometime, lol
I might've had the Aphro+Dio duo in one run, but I haven't had it lately
vital dragon
I had a really fun Guan Yu spear run
opaque heron
Got like 75% crit chance on the special, so add in boiling blood, I’d cast + mark a target and then rain down homing crit specials lol
static wadi
@opaque heron Problem with artemis - u cant have good priv status with her
u need 3 gods with proper boons
that's not easy
but Her special is good
opaque heron
I know. I’m still trying to figure out what’s good and what’s not lol
opaque heron
It was just fun to play around with while I had it
static wadi
only thing u want with Artemis - special damage https://prnt.sc/qrl1yl
vital dragon
First room Aphro epic Special boon.
Second room hammer upgrade that lets you hold and charge the special
third room chaos boon for +75% special damage.
All of this on tartarus.
Guan Yu Spear? More like ULTRA BOW.
delicate arrow
Aphro Athena diobshould also be strong
solid forum
ahhhh I still haven't even played the update
wanton cobalt
nooooo
- Removed money sometimes dropping from destructible pillars in Asphodel
static wadi
rip 8 coins
radiant dune
- Removed money sometimes dropping from destructible pillars in Asphodel
ooo
delicate arrow
Wait that was a feature?
wanton goblet
Well, I guess. But in their terms it was a bug
worn glade
oh nooooo, the fishing in styx was an issue?? i'm so sad T-T
glacial socket
wanton goblet
Ahhh... may as well play Hades for an hour
Hey, you know Duo boons? Is there any way to increase the chance of getting them (if anyone knows)
((also idk why i spoilered that?? hold on let me reverse that. im pretty sure y ou can get duo boons before they're even announced.))
carmine pecan
what boon from chaos has causatic effects?
static wadi
what is causatic
carmine pecan
in the fated list
brisk trail
Caustic is one of Chaos's curses.
midnight canopy
no...less fishing :((
plush pike
00
wanton goblet
what do you MEAN they made duo boons lower...
carmine pecan
yea but how to get cursed with that?
brisk trail
It's one of the prefixes, makes enemies drop bombs on death.
wanton goblet
Reverse patch, reverse patch!!! /j
flint fossil
@carmine pecan Its just a random boon
You just have to take Chaos and eventually get it
brisk trail
- can you point out what you're talking about? I'm not seeing anything about Duos in this patch.
lofty sapphire
Can i Ask Something? Keyboard and Mouse? Or Controller? C=Controller
brisk trail
Use whatever you like.
lofty sapphire
just asking what u use
minor hornet
so, the asphodel change, was it because the pillars were incorrectly classified as enemies?
sharp parcel
we'll probably never know
sharp parcel
not that it matters
flint fossil
Was a small amount too
sharp parcel
no other pillar drops resources
minor hornet
I know there's a limit to how many enemies of the same type will drop gold, to prevent farming skullomats and elysium fighters
minor hornet
which would explain why it would stop after the third or so pillar
sharp parcel
there are skulls everywhere
minor hornet
the stone ones dropepd gold, too
sharp parcel
it's the underworld
the pillars also stopped dropping gold after all enemies were dead
flint fossil
What if all pillars are programmed as enemies that aren't necessary to kill to advance to the next chamber to get them working in the first place at all in Hades @minor hornet
minor hornet
and it would also explain why the gold stopped dropping if the encounter was no longer active, because enemy gold drops stop one the encounter ends
flint fossil
And they just forgot to turn off gold for the Asphodel ones
minor hornet
hah!
sharp parcel
pillars have souls, too
flint fossil
I've seen far jankier things in games
wanton goblet
Not in my eyes, they don't. Damn those pillars.
sharp parcel
oh shiiii
wanton goblet
If you can damn them even more than they've already been damned,
sharp parcel
what if pillars are actually people
wanton goblet
... that would make sense
minor hornet
I was just curious, no criticism here
flint fossil
Shoutout to the Fallout 3 tram just being an NPC with a tram model for a head in order to get it to move
sharp parcel
and their punishment is getting whacked by Zag
minor hornet
I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only person thinking that way too 
flint fossil
Stuff like this is common in games
What matters is that the final product works
Any method they got it to work? Counts.
wanton goblet
As long as it isn't too visible to those playing, then, yknow, it works.
brisk trail
...Bethesda, ladies and gentlemen.
brittle perch
noooo my fish farming...
steady tapir
What kinda run should I be going for with the new spear I don’t use it often and don’t know what builds good
candid pine
+ Fixed Daedalus Hammer sometimes appearing as a chamber reward in Styx when not supposed to
??????????
I thought that was intended?
wanton goblet
Aw...
worn glade
as in when it's not the correct reward that first appears
grand crystal
@steady tapir i say demeter or zeus or athena
with the new aspect making the spin different makes those good
steady tapir
Thanks panda
grand crystal
np
lapis nova
Shoot, they fixed some things that were nice 😛
static wadi
worn glade
minor hornet
hah
grand crystal
4 areas
minor hornet
you sure you're on the most recent version?
flint fossil
There are 3 biomes and you can get up to like 69 rooms total
summer forge
areas?
static wadi
@flint fossil 4
summer forge
so like 69 rooms
static wadi
Tartaris Asphodel Elisium and Styx
grand crystal
tarturus, asphodel, elysium, styx
flint fossil
Its is 4 😂
summer forge
they had to stop at the nuymber 69
summer forge
do they plan on increasing it later?
grand crystal
yea
static wadi
@summer forge sometimes it's 70
flint fossil
We think so
static wadi
looks like no
grand crystal
the current ending isnt enough
flint fossil
Yeah
summer forge
well it's still in development
grand crystal
yea
static wadi
Final boss will be the same
summer forge
if people are still beating it when it's beta..
static wadi
as i heard
summer forge
then that's a short game
grand crystal
its not short
summer forge
i'm sure they have more content for the future
grand crystal
ive done over 100
static wadi
@summer forge well yes but well noy
flint fossil
The boss theme has a 3rd stage in it, and the current one only has 2, so there is hope for more @static wadi
And yeah I've done over 100 completed runs
In a row
grand crystal
i only beat it by run 16 because i have an alt account with my 100 ish runs
summer forge
also ngl am I the only one who likes the voice actors
grand crystal
i love them
summer forge
i'm pretty gay for zag
static wadi
@summer forge SGG is famous for good music good stories and good voices
grand crystal
but i cant look at thanatos without thinking ashe from transistor
umbral pebble
Samr
flint fossil
Literally every single VA is on point. Except Eurydice imo.
grand crystal
i think eurydice is fine
flint fossil
Eurydice sounds phoned-in if I'ma be honest
grand crystal
ig yea
flint fossil
Maybe its just compared to the perfect VA work of literally every other character
summer forge
I wish they had more merchandise for hades
flint fossil
Demeter gives me chills. Pun intended
static wadi
Hades deep voice is something
grand crystal
it really is
worn glade
eury is perfect yo, what
flint fossil
Hades gave me a serious impression
umbral pebble
Zagreus is the best in my opinikn
flint fossil
More memorable than the Heracles vers
worn glade
it might be jarring for you cause she's the only one with an american accent
grand crystal
but that doesnt make sense with her characvter
midnight canopy
Skelly is right there sounding Jersey
flint fossil
Uh, she's not the only one. And there really isn't much emotion in her VA either
flint fossil
Its just sort of like I'm talking to a person on the street
summer forge
i'll be waiting to get home to play hades..
flint fossil
Good luck!
summer forge
I might buy the only hades merchandise
summer forge
it's a glow in the dark shirt
flint fossil
Supergiant is godlike
grand crystal
^
flint fossil
Yeah still getting gold from these things huh
worn glade
i would take talking with someone on the street as a compliment tbh just means she's very natural and fluid
flint fossil
I mean her voice acting doesn't really take into account what her dialog is about or the context at all
There's no inflection in her voice when talking about Orpheus for example
Her VA job isn't bad per-se
But when everyone else is giving these all-star voices and personalities to these characters it sort of stands out
grand crystal
yea
flint fossil
Some completely develop their own visions for the characters they're portraying too beyond just the script
Poseidon is a great example of that
grand crystal
you think that a chracter separated from her basically husband and being a nymph living in hell would make ehr sad or mad
flint fossil
Uncle get your hearing aids fixed please
@grand crystal Her dialog does have a lot of emotion in it in places
But you just don't hear the emotion in the inflection in her voice a whole lot
grand crystal
kk
flint fossil
One thing I do appreciate a lot is her great adaptation of a cheery woman in the middle of a plane of lava
The one line where she's like 'I'm dead, do you really think the heat bothers me?' is perfect
grand crystal
yea
snow pagoda
I've only met her once but it's not the voice that stood out to me but the hair
Is it just me or it looks like broccoli or something
grand crystal
she is a forest nymph
static wadi
@snow pagoda well she is Dryad
grand crystal
so she's just a tree woman
static wadi
how does she supposed to look
snow pagoda
Right... Just haven't expected it in the middle of a lava field
Hey I didn't know :(
grand crystal
thats the irony
snow pagoda
I'd find out more about the lore if I didn't get squashed in the middle of said lava biome every run
Well, almost every run
grand crystal
whats your go to weapon??
grand crystal
asphodel
carmine pecan
oh
grand crystal
yea
carmine pecan
i always get killed by the worm
grand crystal
hydra??
carmine pecan
yea that worm
static wadi
@carmine pecan Hydra is not so hard
grand crystal
when people dont know the names it bothers me
didnt they nerf hydra
goes from 3 to 7 head
no 5??
static wadi
Hide behind columns and shoot
@grand crystal she has 2 pases now
not 3
but 1st is harder
snow pagoda
I go for the bow usually for range, but it feels like the boons don't really help much with it
static wadi
@snow pagoda aspect?
snow pagoda
And yeah Hydra kills me all the time
carmine pecan
bow special is ass
snow pagoda
The base aspect
grand crystal
no
snow pagoda
Yes!!!
grand crystal
special is fine
snow pagoda
The special sucks(
grand crystal
you need the right boon
snow pagoda
I only ever get good damage from it if I just shoot the special point blank
grand crystal
a zeus booon special is gerat
i generaly go for artemis dash and cast with athena attack and hera aspect
static wadi
...Hera aspect
with
Artemida dash?...
oh Athena
Athena works in every build
almost
safe sand
What is the peculiarity of the sword? The spear, for example, has damage even more on an LMB attack, but at the same time has an increased attack range. Shield can be blocked. The bow has a range and a circular attack. But the sword has no ranged attacks and its damage is not stronger than that of other weapons. Don't you think the sword needs to be improved?
grand crystal
and i have only a couple good rail runs
static wadi
@grand crystal Chaos shield is better Chiron bow
grand crystal
@safe sand the sword has much more close combat that is heavy around utalizing everything
snow pagoda
Doesn't sword's dash attack knock foes back? Maybe that's the gimmick
grand crystal
everything gets more gimmiky with aspects
but the sword is meant to be the starter weapon with lots of potential
you can do just about anything with sword
others, not so much
worn glade
sorry for the diversion, but anyone knows if there's a place i can see a bigger version of the server banner?
static wadi
@worn glade u mean all characters of sgg?
brisk trail
Jen Zee's DeviantArt.
worn glade
ahh thank you!
finite lichen
About how big is this hotfix in file size? I'm on a terrible connection and donno if I want to close and relaunch the game
brisk trail
I've heard it's a gig.
finite lichen
Oof that's a nope for mthen
static wadi
TыGыDыM TыGыDыM TыGыDыM
safe sand
you can do just about anything with sword
others, not so much
So what exactly do you mean? In close combat, does the sword have a higher dps than other weapons? Or does a sword repel enemies and thereby win melee?
static wadi
nvm it sounds like horse gallop
grand crystal
it has great dps to me, the base 4 attack string is about 60 ish damage and the special does 50
it has a lot of knockback with the last hit of base attack and special
brisk trail
Sword has very high DPS, second highest after the Rail.
grand crystal
yea
safe sand
Hmmmm... Oke
grand crystal
you can also get a lot of hits in consecutivley and thats not including hammer buffs
i once had a artemis attack with flurry and i was doing several hundered a second
and posiedon makes the knockback even better
ares makes it deal even more damage
i think the sword is just great
im more of a bow and spear guy tho
i can really rant about the weapons
humble pulsar
sword has very high dps
I think the only things that have a higher dps are the Rail, a small amount of shield builds, and the Spear's Guan Yu aspect
And yes the Spear catapulted up in my weapon tier list solely because Guan Yu now exists
grand crystal
but at base the sword is amazing
safe sand
It’s just that I love swords and close combat, and I thought that suddenly the sword may have no strengths with melee, if compare it with other weapons. Especially looking at the spear damage numbers.
trail raven
" Fixed an issue causing Fishing Points to appear more often than intended in the Temple of Styx"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
My faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarmmmmm
static wadi
rip our gemstones
humble pulsar
the sword's strength is that its faster than the spear
brisk trail
You just need to understand that the sword is the squishiest weapon in the game.
humble pulsar
the spear is rather slow and clumsy. It has higher damage numbers sure but it attacks slower and it has a worse AoE option (by default)
brisk trail
Quick Spin, though.
humble pulsar
You can spam into the sword's special out of almost any hit combo fast enough to do repeated fast damage
I did say "by default" :p
its also 1 hammer, so I still think its worse, it also requires you to stand fully mobile just waiting where as the sword you press shift and complete the animation (and you can dash mid animation)
I think what catapulted the Spear up in my tier list of weapons is Serrated Edge. Serrated Edge is nuts
brisk trail
Yes, it's much more mobile, but it does require you to close a lot more.
I get why it's good, but I don't think I'll ever pick it up again.
humble pulsar
Serrated Edge + Guan Yu + Demeter was 2-3 shotting hydra heads, not kidding
I was doing like 400 damage an attack
safe sand
In general, as I understand it, the strength of the sword lies in its speed, especially if you cancel the animation by dodging. But this requires more skill, because you constantly need to be completely close to the enemy and monitor their attacks. Well, by the way, it has a relatively quick secondary attack around.
static wadi
yes it is
flint fossil
Spear spins suck compared to explosive launcher builds on Zag spear
Or Flurry + Zeus
Those builds are good
coarse junco
Personally if I wanted to play solely ranged, I’d just use Rail or Bow
flint fossil
Yeah Achilles is annoying to use but its a monster with HB, though its not like HB needs any help
vocal thorn
The sword is still ok, even if the game keeps offering terrible boons. The spear and bow, however, can feel awful if the game doesn’t give you the right boons
coarse junco
I like combo’ing the spin with other attacks.
^^
The spear being reliant on Daedalus boons is a bit finicky. I honestly think making the spin quicker to charge, around the same if slightly less than the quick spin buff, would make them feel a lot better.
brittle perch
i feel that way about mortar...
fossil steeple
Does anyone else struggle with the bow? I just cannot figure out how to get any damage on that thing and I feel way less safe than with the rail.
static wadi
@fossil steeple what aspect
fossil steeple
I only have default bow I upgraded sword, shield and spear since I like those the best.
static wadi
@fossil steeple so basic aspect?
fossil steeple
I guess
static wadi
U may try Double explosive shot with Artemida attack and dash
fossil steeple
Those are hammer upgrades?
tender tulip
Yeah
static wadi
yes
coarse junco
Join the cult of Nemesis Aspect
fossil steeple
The only win I have with bow is when I got the rapid fire/double shot upgrade not sure what those are called
coarse junco
It’s the cheaper of the two sword aspects
Wait. You can get both double arrow and rapid?
tender tulip
With base bow I feel like you're gonna want to keep the charge attack to do the most damage
the special hits wide but you can't really rely on it too much unless you're just using it for status
static wadi
There is a trick with a bow
snow pagoda
Timing the charged attack can be tricky though
static wadi
Dash attack deal less damage but Charge faster
fossil steeple
Do you guys use like all the weapons or do you find yourself focusing on a couple?
static wadi
with Basic crit chance and explosive shot u can transform this bow in kinda shotgun
@fossil steeple i played rail
1st and 2nd aspect
coarse junco
I find an aspect that I like the best on all weapons and go for whichever has a darkness bonus.
static wadi
after i played a lot with Chiron
and now i stick to Chaos aspect
best weapon ingame
tender tulip
I try to use whatever has Dark Thirst up on it, but I think I tend towards Rail and Bow more
plush pike
You can do it gznm 🙌
static wadi
i can but i do no need it hard
6 swappers is enough
since i do not try high heat run
trim surge
need resource rework, devs said they weren't too happy with darkness right now
but I hope they're not just planning to add another darkness sink in house
coarse junco
Hopefully it’s more than adding a darkness to gem conversion at the broker
vocal thorn
I hope they aren’t adding anymore darkness grinding into hell mode. I’m perfectly fine knowing I’ve finished the progression part for darkness
celest zephyr
is there any way to get the game running stable at 60fps ?
trim surge
celest zephyr
yeah imma try asking there
trim surge
also I wonder what the actual rewards are when picking elite room over non-elite, do elite mods drop more gold on average? because if I have a BKG room choice, 5hp/20gold/dice really don't matter at high heat compared to picking the least dangerous room
especially with time limit running
tight idol
I think the rewards are x2 for stuff like gold and higher rarity for boons? Something like that
trim surge
in last area you have 200 gold coin and 2x pom room, sometimes 50hp heart, but double reward doesn't affect Darkness/Keys/Gems
well you probably get 10 gems but for your run it's actually worse
tight idol
I think it does affect keys at least. At least sometimes I've gotten 2 keys in a room
trim surge
yeah I think it's 2x but only for the main resource, not the actually useful secondary resource
carmine pecan
i need to find a chaos hole again
trim surge
10 gems but not 40 gold, 2 keys but not 2 dice
carmine pecan
2 runs and havent found