i really hope every final aspect diverges from Greek now, honestly
#h1-discussion
floral sonnet
coral thistle
didn't see special displayed
narrow karma
- Quick Reload (Hermes): now offered by Hermes (donated by Artemis, who felt sorry for him)
I cri everytim
ocean kayak
i wonder if this is just beta? guan yu is chinese isn't he
coral thistle
he is
ocean kayak
whose idea was this...
crystal plume
Download is done let's do this
versed ruin
elfin kite
also, English speaking guys. is Rod of Fishing a parody to how items are usualy named in games and myths?
versed ruin
I think it is
floral sonnet
more or less, vlad
livid cargo
Theres no reason that multiple mythologies couldnt exist
lean ferry
presumably Vlad
coarse junco
As long as they can justify it in game I'll be fine with it
coral thistle
"an unconquerable general shall rise in the east and never meet his match" - doesn't sound like guan yu ever wielded it himself
bleak dawn
TBH multiple pantheon's and mythologies interacting is something I've always had a soft spot for
fiery pebble
If it makes any sense
cold orbit
God I love Artemis
floral sonnet
"a mythical hero from a land far to the east" is all they need to say
fiery pebble
Its Guan goddamn Yu
narrow karma
it's like Rod of Fishing vs Rod of Dowsing or Rod of Lightning
coral thistle
but maybe the guan dao's legend 'fused' with varatha?
rich swan
All I know is this feels... wrong, to me, as until now I thought the world of Hades was entirely a "Greek Mythology is real" world like the Percy Jackson series
ocean kayak
im gonna be honest, i'm probably gonna wait to update. there's so many nerfs. is this what it feels like to play overwatch?
lean ferry
i like things that manage to get different mythologies together in interesting ways, like incarnations of immortality did
fiery pebble
Uh
coarse junco
Given how deep into the mythos they've invested research into I'll trust them to come up with an adequate explanation
coral thistle
guan yu was a real person though, remember
fiery pebble
The Percy Jackson books did also include the other mythologies
teal patrol
Chariots got nerfed and now we can all be happy! 🦀 🦀
coral thistle
if the greek mythology was real, and he died
it's entirely reasonable that varatha could have absorbed/learned his weapon's essence
calm hawk
Aw man
versed ruin
Cursed slash sounds relaly interesting
lean ferry
only one problem @teal patrol
so did everything else
coral thistle
and also yeah percy jackson had multiple mythologies in the same universe
versed ruin
Especially with the quick slash
halcyon cypress
If you can have guan Yu as an aspect makes me think the last weap is either some kind of wand/scepter
calm hawk
They kept the darkness limit for hell mode
dire narwhal
finished the update. I'm going in y'all 
fiery pebble
Now the only question
inland shell
Poison ---> Hangover. I think I like poison more for clarity
fiery pebble
Rambo Aspect for Gun when?
night turret
xD
rich swan
Ah whoops, my bad then x3
proven abyss
Any streams going up?
bleak dawn
@rich swan maybe not the best example, Percy Jackson explicitly exists in the same world as Egyptian mythology and norse
versed ruin
Hazard bomber with eris 
chilly stump
@ocean kayak Balancing is a big part of our update process! Hopefully you do decide to update - feedback on how people experience the game's balance is extremely useful.
narrow karma
i'm just kinda miffed because the 關刀 is, well, a spear?
fiery pebble
Or hell, 50 cent aspect. The only change is that you hold the Gun sideways
coral thistle
it is a polearm
rich swan
@bleak dawn It's been forever since I read any of it so I'd forgotten it had any others, whoops xD
lean ferry
and suddenly have 300% gold chains in your local area
void nova
hype!
coral thistle
still it looks dope and i can't wait to see what the kit is
narrow karma
I'd just have gone for "sword at a distance" instead, I guess
fiery pebble
The big gimmick is spin attacks
noble plinth
oh my god, frost boons
that's very cool
bleak dawn
I mean we didn't learn that until the more recent books so it isn't your fault
fiery pebble
For a regular spear
void nova
why did they nerf coin purse though 😢
calm hawk
@chilly stump sorry to bother to, I was just if you guys are considering looking at hell mode again, or if you guys consider it "done"
fiery pebble
A spin would suck
fiery pebble
But the Hades spears are all effectively blades on a stick as is
coral thistle
varatha is much more of a polearm than an actual spear anyways
fiery pebble
Kinda
floral sonnet
but throwing a polearm would also suck
halcyon cypress
Im surprised there is not hercules aspect yet
narrow karma
fair
unkempt sleet
Aw darn, it's not Apollo.
coral thistle
like it's basically a falchion
narrow karma
i need full art!!!
chilly stump
@calm hawk I'm not sure personally, but I don't think we'd say anything is "done" until the game is fully complete, with how much the various parts of Hades influence each other.
unkempt sleet
My horse has lost 
bleak dawn
Herculese aspect for sword that makes it just a club
marble sphinx
I thought the fishing rod was going to be the new weapon at first
rich swan
I guess I'm mostly confused because they had specifically said "a new Olympian" and there are a bunch more Olympian Gods
brisk trail
I wonder what the last weapon will be
late saddle
Of all the games to add fishing I never would have expected this one. I love fishing in games
calm hawk
Well that's a hopeful response, I just wish there was a way to unlock the darkness limit, or at the least be able to convert all that extra darkness that you get in hell mode
fiery pebble
Still betting on Scythe
coarse junco
Oh wow. I love the reworked broker menuy
little inlet
gun but TWO
calm hawk
Feels like a wasted resource after a certain point
brisk trail
Yeah could be, Maybe gauntlet/fist weapons like god of war 3
deft cypress
PAtch is here!
marble sphinx
My money is on flamethrower
fiery pebble
Its Demeters weapon
late saddle
I'd be in for punching things
broken fern
my update is stuck on 99%
brisk trail
Or just go all out, blades of chaos why not
fiery pebble
So a Gauntlet is unlikely
halcyon cypress
Wand/scepter ?
broken fern
hellow
delicate dove
two of my last three runs were scintillating feast based rip
fiery pebble
Flamethrower is out entirely, we already had Hestia
coral thistle
I would love a scythe
deft cypress
lez go
marble sphinx
Yeah but every other sgg game has had one
brisk trail
There is no info on the new weapon yet so it could be anything I think
bleak dawn
Rooting for at least one Titan giving you boons
coral thistle
dual kama?
fiery pebble
Im pretty sure only Bastion had a flamethrower
deft cypress
2gb patch woah
brisk trail
Could be heph too maybe
fiery pebble
It could be anything so long as it makes sense for Demeter
brisk trail
In terms of who owns the weapon
fiery pebble
We do know its Demeters weapon
little inlet
Do we?
mortal gale
man this patch is the nerf patch xD
fiery pebble
The 6 weapons are the 6 weapons the Elder Gods used when slaying the Titans
brisk trail
Did they? I didn’t think there was any info about that
worthy cairn
me a few days ago: man that poison in styx really sucks i hope they nerf it
supergiant: + Increased damage rate of Poison effects in the Temple of Styx
gee, thanks
narrow karma
Flamethrower, Demeter aspect: I'll show you "Summer Heat"
brisk trail
Yeah but one of them is a gun lol
fiery pebble
So far 5/6 Elder Gods have had a weapon
halcyon cypress
@fiery pebble they used a gun?
bleak dawn
Ooh, maybe instead of a normal synergy hephestus would have synergies with deadalus hammers
fiery pebble
Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, Hera and Hestia
brisk trail
And that ain’t real to the myth
trail raven
"Thanatos: should show up more frequently" SPEEDRUNNERS gonna hate this
fiery pebble
I mean none of the weapons ingame, other than Aegis
little inlet
could be a magic staff that summons fire
vale bison
How do i get a companion???
crystal plume
Dude these new boons
fiery pebble
The 6 weapons belong to the 6 elder gods
little eagle
Is persephone in the update?
crystal plume
Are nuts
halcyon cypress
Realistic in a mythlogy bases game
fiery pebble
The last one left is Demeter
little eagle
Demeters daughter?
halcyon cypress
brisk trail
Elder gods as in the ones that fought the titans in which story?
bleak dawn
Give us a weapon from chaos
little inlet
ok who streaming
brisk trail
Because there are different groups of them considered older in different accounts
tepid jungle
a chaos wep would be the other weps but it changes every room
ivory remnant
now I wanna see Zeus as Cthulu or the other way around or something
narrow karma
yeah, I'd love to watch someone stream the new update!
halcyon cypress
A weap that changes from room to room sounds interesting
bleak dawn
Also chaos romance when
fiery pebble
I mean far as Im aware
halcyon cypress
How would u do with dae hammer upgrades?
atomic rover
chaos mode that randomizes your weapon, upgrades, and boons every room :^)
trail raven
https://www.twitch.tv/haelian/ is streaming but he is reading the patch notes now
coral thistle
bouldy romance when 😠
lament canyon
I wonder if they'll bring on some aspect from the Egyptian pantheon
ivory remnant
how the hecky would you upgrade a weapon that changes in every room?
coral thistle
....with difficulty
lament canyon
unless Guan Yu is a one time thing and the rest are full on greek aspects
though this does please me
coral thistle
i would really like non-greek aspects for the other capstones
late saddle
I'm about to abandon my duties to play this once it finishes updating
coral thistle
I mean I don't mind either way but the guan dao is dope
lament canyon
the mixing of mythologies is always an interesting thing for me
coral thistle
hmm
halcyon cypress
How is the last weap not going to be a staff/wand/scepter
bleak dawn
Who knows if we will, but we did get guan Yu outta nowhere so who knows
devout plinth
Arnold Schwarzenegger
halcyon cypress
Gotta represent the magic fools
coral thistle
aspect of megumin?
halcyon cypress
Yes
bleak dawn
Blackbeard gun aspect
lament canyon
@halcyon cypress ya never know, it might be hand glaives
brisk trail
There’s another account with Athena Apollo and Artemis I think
halcyon cypress
Glaives would be sick
brisk trail
But they definitely seem to be working off the other one with the weapon theming
halcyon cypress
I wouldnt even be mad
coral thistle
please absolutely not
bleak dawn
Pls call them chakrams, glaive is a poor abused word
coral thistle
that'd be cool ye
lament canyon
Man, I was wondering where Hera is in all this, now it seems we'll never get her
brisk trail
new patch..
coral thistle
a glaive is usually a polearm
lament canyon
i mean Grandma Demeter is a grand addition
coral thistle
not what you're thinking of
coral thistle
grosssss
empty garden
So prophecies give better rewards. If someone did them all, do they get the extra rewards?
lament canyon
no, Grandma
she's persephone's mother
Persephone is Zag's Mother
ergo, Granny Demeter
echo quail
ayy hydra is a bit less aids
bleak dawn
Pan would be a neat addition
brisk trail
Uhh why is a chinese spear in the game, is this explained ingame or not?
bleak dawn
We don't have any nature themed boons
versed ruin
Won't demeter give nature themed stuff?
lament canyon
i mean technically Artemis is nature themed but yeah
coral thistle
demeter gives slow themed stuff, it seems
cold orbit
God the drawing behind dad is beautiful
lament canyon
Well she's the goddess of the seasons
coral thistle
"an unconquerable general shall rise in the east and never meet his match" is the ingame quote, wafu
lament canyon
and it seems since it's winter in game
brisk trail
so not really an explanation?
coral thistle
not really, no
brisk trail
that's... wack
narrow karma
no conversation with Achilles after you finish?
versed ruin
Zeus is Persephone's dad, I think?
lament canyon
@halcyon cypress yep
coral thistle
and yeah demeter is winter aspect when she gives boons, so that's why all slow-y i guess
lament canyon
Incest, my boy, INcest
lament canyon
The greeks did it, the Egyptians did it
halcyon cypress
Demeter is aunt
coral thistle
but I mean the guan dao is sweet and I'm not disagreeing with it
lament canyon
Zeus is both
narrow karma
oh ok spear stuff is explained
chilly stump
As far as I know the update is too new for anyone to have gotten all the way through the Guan Yu aspect line yet. 😄
lament canyon
and so is Demeter
fiery pebble
Aw, Zagreus's aspect on spear no longer buffs the special
lament canyon
and Zeus doesn't know Zag is his grandkid
visual shell
demeter seems
fiery pebble
Also, Explosive Launcher wasnt cut, was it?
bold dome
I am so happy to see Demeter included.
lament canyon
they all think Zag is Nox's kid, but I would assume Demeter would know better, considering the story of the seasons is centered around Persephone and Hades
versed ruin
She looks like frosty grandma, so good
lament canyon
I imagine Demeter knows Zag is her grandchild
dense mountain
before i go breaking a rule i don't know, there's no restrictions on streaming the game right?
fallen bramble
Tisiphone got new voice lines 😮
coral thistle
oh the email has more stuff on guan dao
short gate
YOOOO
versed ruin
A lot of people stream it on twitch
dense mountain
cool thanks
coral thistle
We imagined these weapons could have traveled the globe, and even crossed through history, since the Fates can foresee everything that will come to pass.
So when we thought of who else in history might have wielded a legendary spear, we quickly thought of Guan Yu -- a legendary general from the Han Dynasty, whose signature weapon was known as the Green Dragon Crescent Blade, or also the Frost Fair Blade, because it was perpetually soaked in blood that would freeze over in the snow. We wanted to bring it into our game, sinister red blade and all.
that's neat!
versed ruin
Wait, hestia is out, too? 
vale kite
think you mean demeter
deft cypress
hahaha
lament canyon
How would hestia work? Fire?
deft cypress
Baz was just too excited 😄
rotund granite
Zag's grandmother
lament canyon
Zag's grandmother/Aunt
deft cypress
hell yeah I am jumping in!
lean ferry
2 minutes left till the update is done
lament canyon
if you wanna go by logic, that's the same with Zeus, he is Zag's Grandpa/Uncle
echo quail
poison is now called hangover?
lament canyon
also means he's Hades' Brother AND Father in-law
coral thistle
so it seems like the guan dao is pulled not from chinese mythos but chinese history, so maybe no more cross-mythology weapons for the other aspects
versed ruin
Yeah, they changed poison's name
coral thistle
but maybe yes, i remain 👀
tepid osprey
Demeter's Keepsake has Zeus' icon, in case no one has reported that bug yet
woeful robin
lul
void nova
aaah the update dropped??
harsh epoch
yes
narrow karma
so it seems like the guan dao is pulled not from chinese mythos but chinese history
It's more like they made weapons and named them after the mythical one
void nova
daaaaaang
harsh epoch
it added a lot
void nova
gonna be so many hours before i can play it 😭
tepid osprey
Okay am I daft? Is the overlook for Asphodel new? Like in the first room in Asphodel?
fleet monolith
oh my GOD I can't believe the devs ||haha there's nothing inside this spoiler but troll text lmao get rekt noobs you thought I actually played the game but I'm too busy to play and it's killing me 😩 ||
trim surge
Reduced healing from Fountain Chambers; however, new House Contractor upgrades can increase it
oh no more meta progression
trail raven
"Introduction to Olympian Aid now gives you some God Gauge to use Poseidon's Call"
I legit dont get this one
late saddle
Oh wow, songs with lyrics have subtitles now? Awesome.
I'm not always the best at understanding lyrics so this is great
coral thistle
that's the olympian aid tutorial, i think
steel viper
People were confused on what a call was and how to use it. Now it’s more clear what it does when you are first introduced to it
brisk trail
Im quite annoyed I wasted my gems the first time around before you could actually buy gameplay stuff in the contractor and now I gotta re-grind all that
fleet monolith
Girls too
fiery pebble
Hold on
brisk trail
what about it
versed ruin
That's what comes with being an early access game
rotund granite
"Aspect of Guan Yu"
fiery pebble
Meg is now Employee of the month
versed ruin
What's wrong with it?
late saddle
Yes we're aware
rotund granite
It's Chinese
versed ruin
Right
brisk trail
yes
winter widget
Already been explained
lament canyon
We gone over this
rotund granite
I have college
brisk trail
I complained too you dont need to tell us to go read the patch notes for that lol
rotund granite
I am busy
coral thistle
the lore reason for its existence is in the email
rotund granite
I am aware
versed ruin
To bombard our enemies
rotund granite
I am saying
brisk trail
oh is it gonna read it then
rotund granite
Does this confirm multiple pantheons?
lament canyon
yep
nocturne ginkgo
The trailer though!
coral thistle
no
versed ruin
Cursed slash is insane
lament canyon
it doesn't?
coral thistle
it definitely doesn't
brisk trail
be a good justification if it did
lament canyon
i'd think it does
brisk trail
I doubt it, just a reference
brisk trail
No way their scope is that big lol
rotund granite
He's also revered as a god
coral thistle
sure, but doesn't mean they'll have actual other pantheons in game
ocean kayak
i'm just kind of weirded out that guan yu is the one they chose to go with
rotund granite
I.E. Heracles
void vigil
*"We imagined these weapons could have traveled the globe, and even crossed through history, since the Fates can foresee everything that will come to pass.
So when we thought of who else in history might have wielded a legendary spear, we quickly thought of Guan Yu -- a legendary general from the Han Dynasty, whose signature weapon was known as the Green Dragon Crescent Blade, or also the Frost Fair Blade, because it was perpetually soaked in blood that would freeze over in the snow. We wanted to bring it into our game, sinister red blade and all."*
from the newsletter
lament canyon
Im sure they won't have Horus show up or anything
narrow karma
Who else might wield a legendary spear?
brisk trail
So is Heracles but even he isn’t in yet haha
rotund granite
Link? @void vigil
lament canyon
but like they are at least mentioned to be existing
coral thistle
haelian's trying out out the guan dao now
narrow karma
from the newsletter
ocean kayak
there's so many legendary spears and heroes associated with spears
brisk trail
I wonder if we might get some other guest aspects
bold dome
Sent via email. @rotund granite
ocean kayak
guan yu would've been the last one i thought of, if it even occurred to me
brisk trail
usonius maybe slow down and take two seconds for reading comprehension
rotund granite
@bold dome Thanks
chilly stump
(Here's where you can sign up for the newsletter ya'll: www.supergiantgames.com/join )
rotund granite
Much obliged @chilly stump
summer loom
So uh... fishing huh?
last marsh
fishing!!
rose bobcat
HELL YEAH FISHING
brisk trail
about re-grinding gems i'm just sayin' maybe they could've given egs players some gems for free when the update rolled. oh well.
summer loom
that was probably that last thing I expected....
trail raven
Where can i join the newsletter?
summer loom
or... never expected...
brisk trail
@trail raven read above, caitlin's post
last marsh
it is also in the main menu
chilly stump
www.supergiantgames.com/join or yes in the Hades main menu!
trail raven
Sorry sorry ! I just saw ! Im sorry ! thank you ❤️
summer loom
I never really expected this game to turn into a fishing dating sim
trail void
Cú Chulainn also had a dope spear. He's from Celtic mythology.
echo tangle
so you can sell fish for money? is that why they nerfed charon prices lol
void vigil
oh sorry i was getting the link! cait so quick
brisk trail
It’s a buff for him
late saddle
Thank you all for all your hard work! @chilly stump
chilly stump
We send out a newsletter once a month, and in update months it coincides with the update launch. 👍
void vigil
and my internet so slow
chilly stump
You're welcome!! I just have it memorized, I recommend it a lot. 😄
jolly lodge
Cu Chulainn's spear is too tricky though, must be hard to animate
since it had to be launched with foot/leg
and also down a river
slender zodiac
Can you guys tell me how good the update is from 1/10. I haven't played it yet
fallen bramble
@slender zodiac 7/5
trail raven
100/10
void vigil
i love reading the newsletter... and im a hoarder of concept art
late saddle
I just started a run but 11/10 for sure
chilly stump
It's been up for less than an hour, hopefully people will find it's good. 😄
brisk trail
@echo tangle nerfed? Wouldn't it be buffed if that was the case? as in increased them
void vigil
its still downloading for me ahhhh but it has fishing. i love fishing
last marsh
F for the nerfed skully
late saddle
Same, Alma
coral thistle
yeah ive bene watching it on stream since i cant play for awhile
it looks.. interestng
brisk trail
what's it do
fiery pebble
I dont think this is the right chat for that
ocean kayak
i don't like the look of the fishing. it feels like something that'll get enforced to cover the higher prices. i've never liked fishing in games, it always feels gimmicky.
jolly lodge
is guan yu more of a dead hero here or a paragon god of the Bureaucracy though?
heady heron
AYYYY
rotund granite
- Added many narrative events (with Demeter, Dusa, Achilles, Hades, Aphrodite, the Storyteller, and more)
Aphrodite?!
fiery pebble
Lets move Guan Yu talk to gameplay real quick
brisk trail
Time to date the story teller
rotund granite
I know who's getting all my nectar
...
That sounded more sexual than I intended
jolly lodge
I'm hoping for Turret-Crown Aphrodite but that probably won't happen
rotund granite
Dammit, Caitlin
late saddle
Oh slow is going to be so good in Elysium
chilly stump
Gotta be vigilant for inappropriate server behavior. 
shut sluice
the new look of beginning of Asphodel looks amazing ❤️ good job ^^,
tepid osprey
Yeah that is great
fiery pebble
Wait
tepid osprey
About to go into Elysium, wonder if it's the same tehre
fiery pebble
There is a new Storyteller event?
crystal plume
new hydra is so good guys
lyric slate
Does anyone know when the Dev stream will be for the new update?
chilly stump
We don't have a set time, but it's announced here and on our Twitter if you wanna be ready for it. 👍
lyric slate
Thanks @chilly stump!
shut sluice
I think there are also changes in Elysium for sure, it was kind of different a bit, at least its colours or I dunno, but it is defo better 🙂
late saddle
Same, Rom
shut sluice
yeah new Hydra is also better, its room looks significant better ^^,
empty lion
Interesting
@fiery pebble how to unlock it bro
crystal plume
the fight is better as well
fiery pebble
Talk to Achilles a couple times
brisk trail
Ok we finally got a proper contractor menu and the option to select decoration we had already bought again
late saddle
Looking forward to seeing new Hydra
brisk trail
took its time but good job supergiant
empty lion
Talk to Achilles a couple times
@fiery pebble okay thanks man
celest verge
rotund granite
I just realized a lot of the VAs are here
But since they're Supergiant staff, makes sense
shut sluice
yeah, and I also love those new little icons in the mirror and in the pact
tepid osprey
The new dash-attack Daedalus upgrades are top-notch. Really strong but with a disadvantage is just great choice-making
steady tapir
WHOS IDEA WAS IT TO HAVE ALL 3 FURY SISTERS AT ONCE
strong furnace
Ughh, I want to wait till this comes out fully but every time I see news for this, I want to buy it
shut sluice
there is no point in waiting mate, YOLO
empty reef
not a fan of the prices going up and nerfing the damage. i like being powerful not weaker.
steel flicker
The steam library header is quite messy right now. https://imgur.com/w1rP0B5
shut sluice
the game is already almost perfect ^^,
strong furnace
If there's something you don't like, what is it?
crystal plume
well it was the hydra fight
keen lark
dunno about with the new update, but the hydra fight was a little off tempo
crystal plume
but now its pretty good
keen lark
and even that is a pretty minor complaint
sudden whale
rotund granite
sudden whale
empty lion
oh god why guan dao feels so weird... guan yu used this to slash and chop, not to stab man
bleak dawn
If we're getting aspects from other mythologies, I hope we get Excalibur aspect sword
shut sluice
I wonder if the boons of Demeter will be also changed with the seasons accordingly?! I guess that would make sense
lean ferry
so that new aspect
its interesting
rotund granite
I mean if we're all out, why not throw in Crocea Mors? The legendary sword of Julius Caesar
marble sphinx
What's guandao's deal exactly
fiery pebble
Ok Id be so on board with Excalibur
But only if the soundtrack gets replaced with Excaliburs song from Soul Eater
edgy tendon
Copyright?
wind rivet
I tried so hard to think of someone with a legendary gun for a joke and its not coming to me
rotund granite
I mean... you can just turn off the game music and play in in the background
edgy tendon
With the big iron on his hip.
rotund granite
Question
edgy tendon
Big iron on his hiiippp
rotund granite
What other weapons did ancient peoples use?
brisk trail
Clubs
brisk trail
Mayhaps
wind rivet
Maybe something that pulls things to you?
brisk trail
Slings I guess
late saddle
Whoa yeah Asphodel looks amazing
wind rivet
Though not very historical
rotund granite
Like girlfriends?
brisk trail
Or a dagger but that’s too much like a sword
rotund granite
Neither was a gun!
wind rivet
I was thinking like chains or something
brisk trail
Blades of chaos babyyy
rotund granite
Copyright*
brisk trail
It’s time for the crossover
rotund granite
Though an axe would be neat
willow swallow
Sooo, not just a Greek game anymore with guan yu being added?
mortal gale
humm haven't seen this reported but does demeter's keepsake not have a model yet? to me it's showing zeus one
rotund granite
What, the machine gun didn't tip you off? @willow swallow
brisk trail
Don’t think about it too hard lol
wind rivet
What are famous gun users
jolly lodge
even if it has positron wave motion arm cannon it would still technically be a game about greek underworld
rotund granite
In the ancient world? None
wind rivet
No just in the world
willow swallow
Machine gun still had Greek things about it was my thing I guess.
brisk trail
The kid
rotund granite
Here's your next two blade aspects, Supergiant.
Excalibur, the Aspect of Arthur
Crocea Mors, the Aspect of Julius Caesar
storm wraith
Personally, I remember the legendary Odysseus for his amazing machine-gunning and grenade-lobbing skill.
brisk trail
As in bastion’s the kid
willow swallow
Huh....I get machine gun isn't exactly Greek, but still the aspects were Greek related I guess is my point.
rotund granite
HA @wind rivet
willow swallow
Thought the fishing pole was gonna be the weapon honestly. 😂
rotund granite
That would be ironic as all hell
brisk trail
Hmm yeah like a lyre or something haha
rotund granite
Guys
brisk trail
Electric guitar aspect
narrow karma
then you come back to the house and Orpheus is like "whoa zag I heard music and it wasn't from me!"
trim surge
new shield daedalus + power shot = OP
rotund granite
Zagreus' voice actor is who does Orpheus' singing voice
brisk trail
Sunn o))) aspect
late saddle
Zagreus please. Just got a boon from Demeter and he's like "Very cool"
narrow karma
im choking
echo quail
smh
lapis mortar
So the update it live?
narrow karma
"Very n'ice"
late saddle
omg
lapis mortar
is*
wild trellis
Trump
echo quail
stop it
wind rivet
Give Zag a hammer with a Thor aspect.
rotund granite
The devs from their high abode stare down into the Discord chatter, and are appalled by what their artistry has wrought
narrow karma
"Demeter again? S'now problem with me."
echo quail
thors not greek thonk
lime schooner
can't wait to get my hands on the new patch when I'm out of home
late saddle
Dude if they didn't want ice puns they wouldn't have made them themselves
wind rivet
And?
vale crater
Hello friends. Does the patch go live today?
bleak dawn
oh man, i just realized how awesome it would be if there were secret unlockable aspects for the gun and sword that were bastion and transistor references respectively
gimme a kid aspect
wind rivet
I like that idea
bleak dawn
and a red aspect
vale crater
awesome! cant wait to play
brisk trail
What would be ability be for the transistor hmm
wind rivet
If all the final aspects showed where the weapons have travelled outside of greece
lime schooner
stygius is a p big transistor reference i feel
vale crater
still trying to get the 16 and 32 heat
lime schooner
like big red one-handed sword
wild trellis
I want the cael hammer but idk how it'd feel different
vale crater
What are your thoughts on the patch notes?
edgy tendon
What happened to Aphro cast?
rotund granite
This Discord now has almost 7000 people
echo quail
the railgun is so boring
rotund granite
And we have nine moderators
late saddle
Okay Zag isn't wrong the new cast is indeed very cool
umbral sapphire
any devs around? I'm experiencing freezes each time I enter an infernal gate = (
rotund granite
The mods think highly of themselves
strange crypt
The new victory screen is nice
burnt pond
Elmdor try to take a look in #h1-tech-support
brisk trail
They’ll just have to wear their banning pants at all times
rotund granite
Those pants have got to chafe by now
final thistle
how do you use the rod of fishing?
lean ferry
god the poor hydra
with reflection, you can just hit it with a no u when it does its macross missile massacre
with the new aspect
late saddle
Not sure what you mean about thinking highly of themselves, they seem to do a very good job?
proven briar
Wait wait I’m not at home yet is the guan yu aspect reflection
umbral sapphire
@burnt pond it seems it hasn't been reported yet, I'll check that channel then, ty
narrow karma
ime most people join servers once and never look into them, anyway
rotund granite
Don't spam the guy
lean ferry
no its not, but with athena boons its great @proven briar
lean ferry
its a very high risk high reward aspect
wild trellis
Just in time for 🇨🇳 new year
mortal gale
humm if you have the upgrades for the darkness and gems from contractor, shouldnt poseidon's boon that gives them be affected?
brisk trail
China numero uno
feral marten
Thank you very much to dev team for the game and this update, can't wait to try
summer loom
quickly admire a skelly statue after talking to him ;)
crystal plume
Have y'all seen Demeter's call yet it's insane!
tepid osprey
Didn't seem to do much against the Final Boss for me :/
wild trellis
Did the fated prophecies reset for affected gods with the boon additions/removals?
analog elbow
I'm in love with this update, the new spear aspect and Olympian are so good!
warm hedge
The new blood sword is bonkers
lean ferry
im liking the new spear upgrade as well, combined with the new aspect you do some insane damage
warm hedge
The hammer upgrade
lean ferry
well, insane for the spear at least
finally a reason to use the darn thing i guess XD
void nova
i wish the fated prophecies would reset if they've changed
kind kite
does anyone know how to get the new spear aspect?
void nova
then i could get that incentive to try the new things AND get a bit more gems or whatnot 😄
slender zodiac
They increased the prices of boons in the shop
lean ferry
talk to achilles, if you have enough aspects then he'll tell you how to get it
kind kite
oh sick, i missed him, thanks
void terrace
did they remove that super expensive upgrade for the lounge?
jolly island
Hi my guys, been out of the game for a while, just wanted to know if I’ve missed any kind of seasonal stuff. Just asking coz the newest update looks like it turned the Eternal Spear is all christmas-ie
slender zodiac
I don't think so
modern garnet
Well apparently the spear has something to do with Chinese new year
lean ferry
so i just got demeters keepsake
the popup looked identical to zues's ring
modern garnet
But it's probably available all the time
burnt pond
That is a known issue Syrus 🙂
lean ferry
was not aware of that
jolly island
Ah fair enough, for context the last update I was around for was when Chaos was added to the game
left axle
Im curious... Since we have an aspect far away from greek myth... Think we will get more like it. Maybe an Arthur aspect for the blade - Excalibur?
forest slate
jolly island
Is the Rod temporary?
echo tangle
yeah it would be nice if the game stopped when you suddenly switch game inputs
dead cells does something like this
burnt pond
I really like that suggestion. Pop it in #hades-feedback so I can hit it with a 👍
lyric spoke
Yea I've had that happen before, My bluetooth would stop working for a second or my controller would die and baam I'm in the lava dying at a rapid pase
burnt pond
Like videos/music stopping when your headphones come unplugged.
crystal plume
You have no idea how happy I am that they made Heightened security only 400 now
torpid forge
hey my save got deleted is there anything i can do about it
fallen bramble
I'm the happiest man to live rn (Check DDs)
echo tangle
uh the channel is locked rn
burnt pond
Check the pins to see how you can get permission to post in it 🙂
lime wren
So I just started playing two days ago, and I'm wondering what the patch notes mean about Guan Yu?
light vine
are they gonna update the wiki for the new changes?
echo tangle
too much work, someone can suggest it if they want 
brazen lake
hey im not gonna get to play this patch in some time, i just wanna know what demeters theme is and what chill does
i know shes the god of seasons but what's her mechanical theme
timid tiger
anyone know hot to use the fishing rod?
how*
it tells me i can use it in patroclus room but i don't know how
fallen bramble
@brazen lake slows
summer loom
idk, but tight deadline still counts down while fishing so... gg fishing for me
brazen lake
thanks
umbral mist
guys sorry for stupid question,but how can i get this thic new aspect????????????????????
lime wren
Can we talk about how hot they made dionysus like damn son
Sure it's old news but I started playing two days ago
worthy cairn
Noooo support fire you will be missed :(
timid tiger
oh i just had to talk him first
brisk trail
Feedback bot dead
gleaming gale
new update looks 👍
god dammit I need to actually play this game for more than half an hour 😅 I've become too complicit with turn-based games cause I generally suck at action stuff
tepid osprey
@brazen lake - chill slows by 4% and stacks up to 10 times. She has a bunch of support abilities related to this (like if you stack up to 10 you get a burst of damage)
Haven't seen any of her duos yet
heavy pendant
Do I need to start new file for all the new interactions or will thye come out organically
burnt pond
They come out organically 🙂
fallen wren
Thank Chaos**
burnt pond
thank mr skeltal 💀
heavy pendant
wait should we thank Skelly?
Also go check feedback because I just had the greatest suggestion ever
I'm waiting for the patch to download
burnt pond
Don't worry, I saw. It is an interesting idea 🙂
jagged shore
hope i dont lost my safe game after this update :3
echo tangle
always make backups
lime wren
Last night I had the game paused and I sneezed and somehow accidentally gave up my run on the furthest I've ever gotten. I'm still kind of upset about that.
burnt pond
Did you start a new run yet?
lime wren
Not yet because I went to bed after that and my WiFi is terrible so I'm waiting for the update to download. It took four hours for the base game to DL T_T
brisk trail
anyone know how to fish?
heavy pendant
ooh that sucks@lime wren
lime wren
But at the very least I found what weapon I'm best at so I'm sticking with Aegis
empty bronze
Wait for the lure to go beneath the water then press RB
brisk trail
no but where do you fish
last marsh
F in chat for the lost health drops during Hydra fight
bitter jewel
brisk trail
ex didn't have them anyway so i'm aight
heavy pendant
I didn't even know it was there
sick dust
Hydra is just the wooorst
Ugh it’s frustrating with extreme measures cause you’re taking damage constantly thanks to the lava and the massive amounts of aoe damage the hydra has
last marsh
Hol up
heavy pendant
Just use Poseidon to put out the lava
last marsh
Does Rare Crop reset your boons to common AGAIN after they reach the highest rarity?
sullen stump
Seems a lot of things were nerfed, I guess to make the game harder
fallen wren
Try having every head in the last phase be a lava spewing one. I was basically forced the the tiny dock leading to the next room lol
lime wren
Okay, can I ask real quick what aspects are? I haven't unlocked every weapon so I've no clue what they are.
last marsh
You'll figure it out later in the game.
lime wren
How do I unlock them?
sullen stump
If you interact with a weapons spot after you've chosen the weapon - you get the aspect menu
last marsh
Guys, you're forgetting that you don't even have the option to do that when you start
burnt pond
Yep you are right, lemme fix that.
I get all mixed up with changing between these channels 
lime wren
Oh, I get it. Like how you get chaos on your... Eighth run, I think?
burnt pond
Similar. Just an unlock that takes time or completion.
brisk trail
@last marsh rare crop does do that, yes
x random boons go back to common and get upgraded all the way up to heroic over time
lime wren
Alright, makes sense. I can't wait for the update to finish.
heady heron
soo
last marsh
No, I mean, it resets it to common a second time.
brisk trail
oh, no
heady heron
you can now charge special for 300% damage
last marsh
weird
lime wren
One more question- If I wanted the soundtrack, where would I check? The boss theme bangs.
brisk trail
it makes you die quickly
teal patrol
decrease health?
brisk trail
ye
teal patrol
increase damage?
brisk trail
and lifesteal from what i hear
brisk trail
changes your moveset as well
teal patrol
oh, moveset changes are important
brisk trail
haven't been able to play with it yet so i can't go into more detail
sick dust
Is that just a place holder?
teal patrol
isnt it just Demeter boon next type thing?
hallow kettle
sup
fair magnet
How much does the new weapon style cost?
zinc cipher
So er... is Demeter's keepsake supposed to look exactly like Zeus' or is that a visual bug I'm getting?
peak knoll
wait is new patch live? thats hype
sick dust
I’m wondering the same thing Sharnie
echo quail
how do i unlock the new spear?
sick dust
Talk to Achillles
fair magnet
Achilles needs to chat with you after having several styles unlocked
fallen wren
IT STABS!
fair magnet
Does anyone know if it has a price
zinc cipher
If you guys just play the game these kind of questions will be answered pretty quickly 
opaque nexus
I have to get home from school
fair magnet
I can't rn busy
fair magnet
Thanks @worthy jewel
opaque nexus
Zag spear buff let’s go
fair magnet
worthy jewel
No problem 🙂
opaque nexus
Guys is shady still worth going for
worthy jewel
I played several times if this spear and it's a bit difficult to beat bosses because you have reduced health from 100 to 20 and they can like 2 shots you
zinc cipher
To answer my question prior: 'Demeter's keepsake currently has temporary art, expect the official piece in the future' @sick dust
opaque grove
there's no new aspects as far as i know
sick dust
@opaque grove theres a new spear aspect
opaque grove
BADUM TSSS
echo tangle
new hydra is so good. fast and hard bitting
floral sonnet
Talk to achilles
opaque grove
i was dying to old hydra so i'm very sad
left axle
I meam spiked colar runs i guess
opaque nexus
Spear aspect is kind of bad
brisk trail
@worthy jewel does it affect health gain as well or just your starting health?
opaque grove
WHOOOW
floral sonnet
It affects health gain as well
opaque grove
gotta get me some titans blood
next mesa
SO how does Guan Yu fit in ancient Greece exactly...? 😛
opaque grove
pog for china
open dawn
hey guys where do i use the fishing rod?
left axle
The weapons have had owners far beyond greece
opaque grove
Do we know what time it is in the outside world?
left axle
Nope
brisk trail
like 9pm or sth
floral sonnet
@open dawn you'll see sparkling spots in the water in some rooms, press the interact button on them to start fishing
brisk trail
:^)
coarse junco
Calling it now. We are going to get a King Arthur Aspect for the sword
opaque grove
lmao
left axle
I want Excalibur sword
opaque grove
oh that would be sick as hell
open dawn
ty @floral sonnet
coarse junco
The fact that Guan Yu is now a thing gives them a ton of more creative freedom.
floral sonnet
Fat Man aspect for exagryph when
opaque grove
not just a ton of creative freedom but also it'd be so cool if they just continued dipping into chinese mythology
chinese mythology is cool as hell and vastly underappreciated
crystal plume
Would love to see hel or Loki Odin maybe too
brisk trail
odin would've been gungnir so that's out
floral sonnet
Gungnir was a spear, though
trail void
I would be down to see Cu Chulainn's weapon as long as Zag can kick the spear XD
brisk trail
if this isn't a confirmation of new pantheons then you should think on heroic arms, not weapons of the gods
yeah and we're not getting more spear aspects is what i'm saying
What's the small EGS patch for? I see no announcement
floral sonnet
Probably a hotfix
brisk trail
well ya
safe crow
GIVE US
DUAL STICK CONTROL
opaque grove
yeah but like as goddesses
left axle
I think they mean as boons
opaque grove
huh
left axle
No way
tranquil heart
I cannot quit mid-run anymore?
lyric glen
hey nemesis sword was nerfed not in patch?
left axle
They gotta finish the olympians
left axle
:/
brisk trail
what do you mean Iztooi, I sure could
tranquil heart
I only see "Give up" when i'm trying to go on main menu
left axle
I think its a missed opurtunity to give love to hestia. She is so underappreciated in myth
trail void
Just going to have to wait and see in my opinion.
tranquil heart
Before i could quit the game then recover where i left
trail void
Did they really confirm Demeter to be the last god or are they keeping somethings under wraps?
opaque nexus
Does it cost 20 for max
left axle
Yeah i havent heard she is the last god
opaque grove
also did they confirm demeter for last god or last olympian?
trail raven
No confirmation i believe
opaque nexus
How do the new hammer upgrades affect the prophecies
opaque grove
they don't reset them
left axle
I also remember mods being talked about somewhere
opaque nexus
If I got them all before it’ll still be done I’m assuming
opaque grove
yeah
opaque nexus
Is chaos shield still broken
opaque nexus
High heat dead
brisk trail
Makes it easier to spread statuses tho
safe crow
Zag needs to make more
opaque nexus
I’m most excited for the QoL stuff and Demeter
echo quail
ayy they fixed hydra
yh i like all the Qol stuff like little icons for all the heat modifiers
opaque grove
i love what they did to the contractor
echo quail
and the icons for the mirror upgrades
opaque nexus
Also they actually made time pause on completed rooms and shops
No more stress shopping
opaque nexus
Not even in the main Styx room
trim surge
no more shopping at all since they increased shop prices of almost everything
opaque nexus
Coin purse even more useful
brisk trail
I spent 2000 gems upgrading the columns of the great hall. And with the update I lost those upgrades and need to get them again
Beautiful
fast minnow
except they nerfed the coin purse lmao
echo quail
lul
opaque nexus
Demeter can save us from this
fast minnow
she's neat
unique river
hold up, the patch notes are from the future! 
https://i.imgur.com/ONWi3l8.png
stiff stag
I can't find the new prophecies in the list after the patch. Is this a known issue?
brisk trail
How do you learn to play the lyre?
vale drift
Hey can you recall what the content of the subtitle was?
sick dust
Alright Extreme Measures Theseus and Asterius? So much fun
fast minnow
after picking up a Demeter boon
vale drift
Got it, thanks!
serene field
how do i get the new aspect?
opaque grove
talk to achilles
trim surge
shop price increases cemented my decision to always skip coin rewards and go hearts instead
trail raven
Also i got a question ; how do people write in the feedback-channel ?
brisk trail
You need the early-access and/or the Hades role
trail raven
How do you get them ?
brisk trail
You can go in the #bot-commands section for that
trail raven
gotcha ty
fast minnow
man I really hope the next (last?) summon thing is for cerberus
void nova
where are they reading the chat for the dev stream?
zinc cipher
@fallen falcon They have confirmed that the icon for Demeter's keepsake is a placeholder and will be adding it's official one soon.
fallen falcon
Oh good, couldn't find the info about that in patch notes
trail raven
They did just now , with the new bug-patch
muted spindle
Is there any reason they changed the first aspect on the spear?
shadow mist
Why isn’t the fishing rod a weapon? We need a fishing rod weapon now.
winged chasm
how do you fish?
shadow mist
I can’t remember what the old Zagreus spear even did.
void nova
does anyone know what chat they're reading for the dev livestream?
wild trellis
Put your lips together and blow
brisk lodge
anyone knows if the charm bug got fixed in this update?
shadow mist
What charm bug?
fallen falcon
there's a fishing spot somewhere on the map, unsure if it's random, but zagreus gets a voice line if there's one, then wait for the fish to take the bait and catch it using e (or whatever your button is for the interaction) again @winged chasm
brisk lodge
that if you get hit by a charmed enemy just when it ran off it hits you for tons of damage
winged chasm
i got the voice prompt but i cant find the spot. maybe i just didnt listen well. thx anyways
slow arrow
hey guys i am new to the game only have a few hours in. I want to know how to upgrade my weapons? I know you need that red blob stuff but idk how to game many of them to unlock new weapons.
opaque grove
wow nevermind i actually love the bone hydra changes
just cleared it without using a death defiance for the first time
last marsh
@slow arrow my suggestion is to not read anything about the game guides wise until you finish it once
it will all be explained
opaque grove
Just keep playing
if you die and you think it's because you're bad
it's probably not
there's a lot of mechanics you haven't seen yet, probably
full fern
was it really necessary to increase the price for charon's goods? (boons and hammer) i find the previous pricing to be just right (150 boons, 200 hammer, 250 for better boons, 400 for hermes temple boon etc)
opaque nexus
STOP BEING STUCK AT 99%
opaque grove
yeah i don't think the cost change was necessary
slow arrow
thanks guys
opaque nexus
Ok it downloaded
opaque grove
pog
trim surge
price increase bad
full fern
if the charon price hike is gonna be permanent, could we also increase the general charon price gain from killing any normal mobs ? (i.e. all slain foes will drop more charon coins now)
opaque nexus
BRO THE HOUSE LOOKS SO DIFFERENT BUT SO KIND OF THE SAME ITS SO WEIRD
trim surge
less choice at shops is generally not a good thing, now I only use gold for healing items at pool and skip all coin rooms
paper ermine
POG I was right that it was Demeter.
opaque nexus
Paperwork pog
golden plume
oof heightened security nerfed
static wadi
and 1st pact thing too
opaque nexus
New contractor is so much better
golden plume
makes me want to just get an everything unlocked save file instead of bothering lol, that was part of the only way I was hitting req and actually able to win lol
coarse junco
I mean. God Mode is a thing if you’re struggling
opaque grove
yeah when i get to the point where i can't progress through heat levels anymore due to difficulty i'm switching on god mode
just glad i wasn't dumb and enabled hell mode
full fern
Shield of Chaos (Zagreus): reduced damage resistance <------------------------------- from 15% to 10% ???? really ??? hmmm i am not happy with this nerf but i suppose i will have to "git gud" then ...
sharp parcel
Zag shield wasn't much of a thing anyway, Chaos is better