#h1-discussion
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I'm pretty sure it's a glitch I've been playing this game a ton and I know that I didn't get hit by anything that should have killed me, or even remotely did that much damage.
if you're recently in hell mode, they remove the automatic invuln you get from taking large amounts of damage in short times, so that can cause oneshots that you wouldnt normally see
outside of that, if you recorded it you could look back at it
and next time, there's an in-game bug reporter, just press F10
I wasn't in hell mode I just had heat on, and I sadly wasn't recording it but I was streaming it on discord and the three people that saw it had no idea what happened (They all play)
damn is the save file instantly obliterated when you accidentally hit "give up" mid room?
how can you accidentally hit give up 2 times in a row
lol dude this isn't even the first time i've managed to do this
i'm talented at pushing the wrong buttons apparently lol
this time i was paused and just trying to continue :rip:
ouch how far did you get
beside it's still the same seed so you can have that exact run again
theseus was almost dead 😭
last time though i was literally about to walk into the final boss fight
oh wait no
that's when the game crashed lol
last time was in styx tho
and the seed seems to be affected in ways i don't understand. one time i got ares room 2 and got +198% damage after enemy slain, and if i chucked my blitz disk then every time it struck it would strike for that 298% damage, so i was like oh i'm gonna go back out and crank up the aspect level a bit to make this better, so i give up go back and i didn't even get Ares 2nd room somehow lol.
had the game crash on me during the theseus fight, when I was almost guaranteed to win. apparently it didnt save after the boss fights, cause it took me all the way back to the start
yep that's what just happened to me
yeah some rare occasions the seed are different after i give up too
Sad
I used to have thoes crashes as well but mine was at the very last fight
Tho to be fair its my comps fault and not the games
pretty sure my crash was the games fault
theseus popped off his god calling power right as I hit him with a ton of lightning bolts from a zeus duo boon poseidon special on the bow, and the game was like "nope"
Do the devs have a date/month where they plan to complete Hades? So excited for the progression of the story
Does anyone have a picture of Artemis's old portrait?
So i posted my second feedback of Hades in the feedback section (only 2 hours in mind you!) and i got 0 upvotes and 31 downvotes, maybe because i honestyl told about just beeing frustrated by the "Trials of the Gods" section the first time i got there and i quit the game instead of just letting my self die.. so yeah 31 downvotes... there has to be an achievement for that somwhere.. right..right?
Nah man the first achievement is at 69 downvotes
Which olympian gods are currently missing for the full 12? I can only think of Hestia, Demeter and Hephaestus. Anyone else?
Demeter is a greek god interesting..
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457639241615409173/665889575243350026/unknown.png why does she has to be such a douche to her
will Nyx's in-game model ever be updated to resemble the art? (or vice versa)
nyx a classist :(
it says in #hades-faq that the hooded portraits are placeholders
is the content update in 11 days or so a content update or the full release? :O
That timer counts toward the next update.
major update
Which you can check in the patch notes
New olympian, buddy.
can anyone tell me
what other content is planned? and when the game will come out of EA?
for the first one, check the roadmap ingame
for the second one, some time in 2020 but there's no specific date
oh ok
so we don't know if there is a whole new act after defeating Hades?
it looks like that should be the case, but its ambiguous
what does an infernal gate do?
Takes you to a special challenge room that, if you can beat without being hit, gives you an upgraded room drop.
damn
Never seen an infernal gate...
You guys know if Hades will wait for v1.0 to add steam achievements or...?
there are already ingame achievements
whyyyyyy do people care so much about achievements
does anybody know, if you get higher rarity boons the further you progress in a run?
steam achievements would give an idea of what percentage did certain things
like, if we had steam acheivements, and there were an achivement for 32 heat, we could see what percentage of the players reached it
so do you just never go against meg after first run through? I really don't like murder lady
You'll get to go against meg more don't worry
also this is kinda epic
are pics not allowed in this channel
I need to flex my 69% increase in attack from poseidon
@fleet monolith It's a fun way to remember what you did in the game when you come back to it. "Oh right, that happened, that's so cool !". And a great starting point in a conversation between 2 people about the same game. And a great indicator of how much of the game you've been through / you've mastered. (I always check my buddies' achievement before talking about a game so as to be sure I don't spoil them)
You need to get an image link, @sinful slate
It's a good indicator of how far you are from completing the game from the developers' point of vue as well.
And yes, there's already an in game achievement list, but I was wondering specifically on steam. Because hoarding achievement is one of my favourite stff
Where i can send a bug screenshot?
you can press F10 ingame
F10 while in game
and paste the link there
or you can, I guess, post it in #hades-feedback
but bugs are best put ingame
ty
It's best in game, because there's a screenshot, and possibly debug logs being sent if you do F10
if i describe it not on english, would it be bad?
I'm honestly not sure what their translation abilities are like for debugging
The language localization team might be completely separate and/or there might coincidentally be bilingual people on the coding teams that share the language you are planning on using
okay, i'll try on english
or they might send non-English bug reports to the language localization team to translate
@steady yacht Bug reports that aren't in English are fine - we get several like that! We just run them through google translate. The screenshot usually helps make it clear what's going on too.
I don't think I've ever come across a bug report I couldn't understand at all just because it wasn't in English, haha
Yeah, just for future reference! And for anybody else who's wondering haha
Thanks for your report!
❤️
Is it confirmed that you cannot take damage while dashing?
I was wondering how i died in a run as i was in mid dash, So i took the recording and looked at it frame by frame, I took damage with 8 frames of dash left. During the death camera it actually showed my character still moving a inch further before the camera zoomed in on me .
Is there any purpose to Darkness beyond 2500 in Hell mode?
can u change pact points?
well idc much i'm not masochistic for hell mode)
Alright. hopefully they add something for it, because I haven't been playing all too long and I'm already way past the cap
I don't think anyone actually confirmed the iFrames on the dash, and games are sort of split on this. For example, fighting games and Dark souls tend to purposely add starting and ending lag to moves for the sake of balance... but acidotically I think Gungeon's roll was iFramed the entire roll.
Acidotically (again), I do think the dash in this game doesn't iFrame the whole time, with the reasoning that I'm assuming Athena's dash only deflects during a dash, but it seems to deflect way more frames than I'd expect it to
It's definitely not invincible for the whole dash, it seems to be closer to the beginning in my experience, and I've also noticed Athena's dash lasts longer then the usual I frames so that probably is the whole dash
And I think the main issue with darkness on hell mode is that there isn't a permanent trade available for it.
like, if I could consistently trade my extra darkness for keys (or whatever), that would solve everything
Yeah I'd agree with that, I'll probably submit a feedback for it
It's a little frustrating to constantly be getting an unusable currency
Unrelated, I'm still not super sure why 3 of of 4 companions are useless on the final boss fight.
@vocal thorn cus lore?
yes; that's the official reason, but I mean like, if want extra help on the final boss, there's only 1 companion I can use
and, for example, I would like to use Meg, but her being unavailable on 2 of the boss fights is like meh
you have the point
and trying to use companion mort on the triple fury fight would be awkward since the furies bounce around the screen so much
the actual point is I'm not sure why I would ever use a different companion than the boulder, since it's easy to actual damage with it, I can use it on all fights, and it gives more health/money
Yeah, he sort of dies super quickly. I tried summoning him when the final boss summons monsters, and he dies well before I can kill the summoned monsters
Idk people say he’s good
Maybe he's good on 0 heat
ah Skelly
Isn’t meg used in speedruns
I'm not sure. I think most the speedruns are seeded, so I haven't been paying attention to them
(I usually only pay attention to roguelite speedruns, when the games actually have different categories for seeded/unseeded runs)
The update in 10 days is just gonna be the new Olympian right
well
Im so hyped for 6th weapon
I think meg is currently used on speedruns because of the hydra skip
Not sure if it would change if the skip is ever patched
@opaque nexus Greg29.12.2019
I shouldn't have said more than the Development Roadmap here, which is that we will have a brand-new weapon "later". There's always a chance our longer-term plans change, and this type of 'should' statement, while not a promise, ends up sounding like a promise. Sorry about that. I'll clarify on Twitter.
I probably won’t even be there when the update drops
Ob
Oh
I wonder if chaos shield will get nerfed this coming patch
The thing I’m excited for most is the QoL changes actually
what is qol?
Quality of life
and what is this?
Changes that just make things more convenient
still doesnt get it
like in diablo3 you was able to click 20x to get 20 paragons to level up an skill
and they add QOL that with shift you can level up 10 with one click
ah that thing
Contractor rework please
i do not care much about that
Yea i have some wishes
for Hades it can be anything like
that picking up weapon pick the latest aspect
without clicking to choose it again
QOL would be like fixing the hydra heads, so they can't just awkwardly hover over the deep lava for 10 seconds at a time, because even though the fight is doable, it's still sort of terrible to have sword users just stand there waiting for the head to move
That wouldn't be just QoL though because it makes Tight Deadline easier
cuz its doesnt work as it should
speed runs are all seeded off of the ares/athena boon seed yeah
It would make the fight feel better but anything that has a notable gameplay effect isn't just QoL
or Supp fire actually will hit target instead of spinning around?)
but it's sort of awkward that the bow/rail get to not be affected by it at all
i want testing room((((
well, at least the chiron bow. The other bows still might want to shotgun the special on the hydra heads
Well I think they already have tons of content locked for Early access done. As they removed the flip ( in Hades House Zag was doing an flip when we clicked attack or so.) . Now when we click attack multiple times Hades says ' not there' ' dont try' and when we click on the doors at the left he says ' get out of there' 'not now'
btw I miss the flip
||it was like the Red singing||
||or doing the trick with transistor sword||
I have a question about weapon upgrades.
How many upgrade levels are there and how much blood do I need to fully upgrade Zags aspect in 1 weapon?
5
all aspects
all 1st aspects need 1 blood per lvl
2nd aspect need 1 2 3 4 5 - 15
3rd need 2 2 3 4 5 - 16
so u need 5
Neat, thanks 🙂
And what exactly game means in "clear quickly an encounter" in Lambent Plume?
1 sec per enemy or something? Is there any know formula? Maybe timer option somewhere?
I think the left side of the screen shows the timer
Is there a version of the 'Last Words' track with bells in it?
The official SG channel only has the one without them.
Hey guys! 
Been playing the game for a while and have now started a fresh-new run on hell mode. I was wondering if anyone could tell me about the darkness limit on the mirror. Does it ever go above 2500? And if so, when do these upgrades to the darkness cap happen?
Cheers. 
@raven scroll u play hell mode?
yes
so there is no way
hope they adjust this cap in the latest update, or have other things to spend the darkness on.
u permanetly have Budget think from pact IIRC
I still don't understand how to reliably handle the minotaur's charge attack if he's on increased speed. There have been so many times where I've dodged behind a pillar, and he just runs around it.
that doesn't always work when he's on the advanced mode
because the chariot sometimes blocks off parts of the screen, and because the minotaur's slam attacks have such a giant radius that I have to be far away from him
i didnt play ex t&m
I hate Theseus. Still the hardest boss for me
Even pumped up Hydra with increased lava damage is not that bad
It's really frustrating to play aganinst Theseus shield
no it's not
he throwes spear
he calls it back
and goes away
attack him this moment
I mean ive cleared the game but i still find it frustrating lol
Hydra's still more frustrating than Theseus. And most of what I do with him is kinda brute force in some hits, even if he swings his shield around in an immediate AoE attack.
Hydra still feels more tasking to me.
Theseus' boastings help me want to kill him first.
For baiting Asterius dashes. You can just bait him into the wall of the arena rather than the pillar.
it's harder to make
Its tricky to pull off but you can sidestep the charge just a little and stand still and minotaur will get stuck charging in a circle around you
funny
is there some bug with poseidon and giving you the same boons over and over?
hes been giving me tidal dash, bounty of the sea and one other every single time i've seen him
and i already have tidal dash
did you sell tidal dash, or you literally still had it equipped?
What do i use titan blood for and how
@echo quail u need it to upgrade ur weapon
after u unlock all weapon
and do 1 run
u will find out
Dk what that means but im i will after progressing
Not a spoiler dw
The issue is some weapons are garbage at level 1, so people aren't necessarily going to know what they want their main weapon to be right after unlocking it
@vocal thorn he doesnt know what aspects are yet
being more pedantic, some aspects of weapons (even though you totes know what I meant) are garbage at level 1
@vocal thorn I agree. I feel like aspects should have their final form once you unlock them and provide an increasing bonus to cast/special/attack/whatever on upgrade
When I first tried hestia at level 1, I was like, this is hot garbage tier
@echo quail every weapon has some variations which have some specific effect which may help to improve ur style
Hera is good lvl 1
Chiron max lvl required
and so on
chiron level 1 was an actual dps downgrade from the default bow, because I couldn't shotgun the special anymore
hera is awesome. easiest high-heat runs unless you have a time limit
I see cool
@elfin kite u dont want tight deadline with bow
@static wadi yes, it is for Chaos Shield only, I think
@elfin kite sword and rail may be fas too
rail runs are too dependent on hammer upgrades
yes it's true
anyone tried Hell Mode yet? I am still a bit scared to try it out
I have
how do you like it?
It's good, I got 2 issues with it though
i'm not masochistic for this stuff thx
You basically start with 5 heat, and your weapons are locked unless you keep increasing heat for them after each successful run
looks like you can max out Budget Cuts right away for free heat
Hell mode is fine, I've been using since after the first few days I played the game
Two problems with it personally
I don't like that you start with a maximum darkness possible to put in the mirror, 20 runs in and I already reached it
Makes darkness feel completely useless
ah, so you have max darkness. this makes things way easier
It does, I don't like it
I like it specifically because it caps darkness early. The casual people can grind darkness for months on the normal mode if they want
@vocal thorn I like the idea behind it, but late game players should be able to unlock it
maybe after a certain amount of heat
the second problem is that some uh, traps are ridiculous on hell mode, due to the trap dmg increase
The issue is if it's not a separate mode, the normal mode people basically get free heats
I still feel like Budget Cuts and No Choice are the worstconditions as they just remove possibilities instead of making a run harder
because hell mode gets rid of the heat rewards before 5
that part is fine
I like it
Makes the game challenging from the get go
It's more that I can't edit the minimum, at the least the budget cuts part
is it a frekin joke???? http://prntscr.com/qmqwvh
i think i will get into Hell Mode today
You can get all the important mirror things with 2,500 darkness
although the exclusive removal of the massive damage shield kind of throws some gears into some runs
@static wadi russian locale?
y
@vocal thorn eh, you can get the basics with 2500
it curse me for using Q
1500 is lost just from death defiances
get used to it 🙂
and will buff my Q
with 2500 you get all basic things, without the % to rarity and the last one.
chiron aspect
so pooms are getting more important
i like how they use latin "Y" in russian locale

get used to it? I played hell mode for 10 hours now
yes i already wrote this in localiztion
looks like they use google translate or something
ugh language barriers
or how even possible to have У instead of Y
they should use crowdsourcing for translation, as the game has tons of text
Anyway, I played hell mode for about 10 hours now, its not a matter of getting used to it
it just feels limiting
and all that darkness piling up for no reason
wait for hell+ mode
so a mode that's just unfun?
Difficulty is a tight rope to walk, too much and it's just frustrating
some of pact conditions are not fun as well. I hope they will find a proper solution
The traps can be fixed by either adding a maximum damage to traps, or increasing their base and lowering the dmg increase in the heat
Yeah. The fact that Hell mode with some modifiers permanently makes it not worth it since you can technically turn ‘hell mode’ on yourself
I wouldn't say that
For those that like a challenge hell mode satisfies that itch
the mode does enforce you to get better, win a run, you better increase the heat on that weapon or you can't use it
btw, last run I somehow managed to get 3 chaos curses at the same time. i think it deserves to be an achievement
5
sorry 4
If you keep buying the chaos gate item, you can easily reach 3 and a bit higher
omg, there is still a room for improvement for me
i got - max health, + enemy damage, + traps damage. so they synergized really well against me
environmental damage
I understand. at the same time, I end up tanking Hydra, as its bites are just scratches compared to melting in lava after dashing away
definitely agree that traps and/or heightened security need to be tweaked for the latter to, uh
not annihilate zag instantly
adding +1 second delay to lava damage would help
not related to lava but probably it would be cool to add HP to traps so you could destroy them. Every time I deflect a giant ballista arrow, I feel like it was useless
Hydra fight is aids
@cloud grove spear has great hammer upgrades what u on about
explosive launcher and vicious skewer are like top tier
@golden knoll about the joint pain thing, an option to hold down the button to attack would be a much better than just giving people hammer upgrades
Agreed! I kinda regret how I worded the feedback thing but didnt wanna spam with extra thoughts on it
In the grand scheme of things the ideal situation would be a control option to change those jabs to a Hold, and remap the Spear Spin Attack etc. to a whole other button
that would be real nice with world splitter and I don't even have any hand pains
guys, what would you said is Zagreus's most iconic
A - Weapon (+Aspect)
B - Build
C - Keepsake (if it were visually in the avatar when you play)
iconic is prob the zagspect sword...its in all the art
shame it sucks
Zag's Spear would be first choice for me, and then the gun
Is there a reason I can't post in the Feedback channel? :V
read the pins in #hades-feedback !
Thanks
Hi everyone! As i understand its impossible to push bosses and Poseidon's mechanics usually give you only pushing buffs how even does this push build possible? If you can share some of your Poseidon builds i'd would be happy, really want to try some)
Poseidon's knock-away buffs are hella useful for keeping ferocious enemies like chariots off of you
You should try to get his Rupture skill, if you can. It makes enemies take damage every time they move. Kinda like poison, except instead of every half second, it's every fifth of a second, so the damage stacks quickly.
Poseidon's Call/Aid is also far and away the most powerful, but since you need to actually aim it and run straight into target enemies with it, I usually pass it up. much easier to work with is Zeus' area-of-effect stuff.
Zeus and Poseidon also have call-affects that make your gauge fill faster each time you take damage, but Poseidon's is much better. If you're working with a troublesome call/aid that works better with a full gauge (like Aphrodite's), pick this up if you can.
So Poseidon is actually more about Call/Aid effects ?
Any weapon preferences for Poseidon ?
Hey guys, I know this might be a dumb question but is the game still up for early access?
It is.
Hey guys ! Is there a specific channel or place to report bugs ? Thanks !
the bug reporter is in game, using f10
Awesome, appreciate it !
Honestly, I still forget there's an in-game bug reporter.
Ohhh, Is there any way I can get a code? I'm getting my PC in a couple days and I'd love to play it! :D
@steady ore Posiedon is definitely about the knock away modifiers. The dps output from his modifiers for wall slamming is crazy, even without his legendary boon. I personally prefer it on my cast. You can can clear the 4th biome so fast with no risk, even an elite matchup. You can one shot stuff with your dash, it's pretty broken, considering it still debuffs final boss with rupture even if he's not knocked away, and is just a high %modifier in general.
Poseidon actually has second-lowest numbers for Attack and Special.
I still like Posiedon because his trash boons are better than most other gods' trash boons. At least all the knockback junk is useful against trash. Some gods have trash boons that are only good in combos I never seem to get
"trash boons" = not usually useful
That knockback junk everonyes knocking on, can obliterate elites, I don't know why people be hating on it haha
I was hoping posiedon's knock back would stack on Hera's aspect bow like it used to do on the shield with double hit so you could yeet some enemies across the room but alas it does not. The knock back is either op or weak.
@shadow trellis Casting normally has the yeet your looking for. Hera's Aspect creates one instance of yeet, but by casting normally, you get 3x the yeet, for the low low price of just not using Hera's aspect. The yeet modifier, second yeet, or pool of yeet, will ensure those that are yeeted, will need yeeting, no more. Not a bad deal for only needing 3 boons.
The nice thing about poseidon, is while despite having lower % increase on his attack/special, unlike zues, dion, and ares, at least his scales with other boosts
3 is kind of a whole lot in higher heats when you can beat the game with just hestia and artemis attack...
You can win with any boons if you're willing to try hard enough, avoiding damage is the easy part for me, so I'm always in favor of getting highest dps possible, and Poseidon can really dish it out. It's why I don't like ares/dionysus, cause it's low dps unless very specific boons come out from other olympians. If you get an early posiedon, you'll see more posiedon, vs chancing on an olympian you may never see in your run.
if you turn the heat up, even mid way for many of the boons, they can't stand up to several tasks
What's midway, cause you can do like 140 heat or something stupid (jk its 45 now
heat goes up to 46, and tight deadline damage restricts the use of low damage boons, especially once other pacts are thrown in
midway really isn't the way to word it, sorry
but tight deadline and anything that delays the run further will greatly restrict what's possible
I couldn't imagine doing 45 heat with the bow, haha.
now that I'm satisfied with what I've done with the sword shield and rail on the current patch, I've been trying to get back into the swing of things with the bow. it's been a little rough, lol
well there's your first problem, you can't swing with the bow
I just need to sharpen it's edges enough!
i'm pretty sure hera bow is weighty enough to smack some people around
Do you think the devs put any unique messages or dialogue in the game if you beat the game on the very first tutorial escape? I'd imagine that if you were sufficiently skilled it would be possible but since the game story appears to break chronologically if you beat it in less than 4 attempts, I'd imagine not.
I'm not sure, after I finished on 32 heat, zag claimed it was a win in his book, lol
I found it pretty funny
he makes the statement after respawning from finishing the run
@coarse junco i think they might do that for full launch
I can't imagine the amount of skill and luck it would take for someone to go from start to end without dying a single time.
I think the hardest part would be not getting bored, as it would take a bit of time and patience
you'd have no pact mods going against you
pray to hermes for more dash though
how do you spawn orpheus? i feel like my game just skipped it and i dont have him. i check the renovations frequently, i've beaten hades several times... i'm on hell mode if that matters
Renovations
i have 10 gold pots, the gem costs on my current renovations is 120/300/130
i have a diamond
One dash, no DDs, limited god selection, no calls, no keepsakes.
And no renovation bonuses. That's what it means to clear on the first attempt
Just keep buying them until you eventually see it. It is somewhat random
yeah the renovation stuff is random
its been a while, ive beaten heat 8 and have aspects on all my weapons
i guess i just didnt roll him yet?
hope so
that's just a really bad good luck
how is it good? ive got gifts to give, man, relics to have
didn't know that :p
||It's a good one if you like bows or hestia rails||
@opaque nexus Quick Spin, Massive Spin and Exploding Launcher are the only good hammer options. Everything else is useless at best and terrible at worst.
And Explosive Launcher is one of the good ones just on account of making the terrible special actually usable.
That's an exaggeration. They're definitely the easiest Hammers to use, but the others are all good if you've got the right set-up.
And if you don't, you lose.
I've lost with Quick Spin and Exploding Launchers because I got the wrong build.
And someone on the reddit won a game using only one god boon.
He did not do that using the spear.
I didn't say the spear wasn't the weakest weapon, just that "useless at best and terrible at worst" doesn't accurately describe it.
So if not terrible, how would you describe that Flurry Jab effectively turns off Hades' Aspect?
I like spear
Flurry Jab doesn't work well with any of the spear's Aspects, but it itself is still a strong option.
Just pretend that speen doesn't exist
Lots of ways to make the damage very good.
I can't ignore the spear if the spear has bountys to claim.
If I am to believe this Discord and the Steam discussions:
I'm up to 17 Heat on it.
Does flurry do more than just save you from carpal tunnel
Rail is garbage.
Shield is garbage.
Please add good weapons, SGG, we only have bad ones.
@lament tangle It does take away your Charge Swing Attack.
Correct me if I am wrong but I think the spear is the only weapon with a hammer boon that actively takes something away from you.
good riddance
Charged Shot doesn't let you Bull Rush.
yea
Flurry Shot takes away Power Shot.
Those are just replacements.
You lose Bullrush but earn a shot instead.
You don't get a differnt means to attack back for the same command input with Flurry Jab.
replace special with a dragoon jump
Now that I would subscribe to!
and come down a whole 10 seconds later
Yeah, and then win with Tight Deadline maxed out! 😄
do i have to be stingy with my titans blood
or can i just get new aspects will nilly
I'm almost at 20 Heat with every weapon and I've got almost 60 Titan Blood leftover.
But I've also traded a lot.
hey I'm new here, is there a place to report bugs? I have a screenshot but I lost the chance to do the in game bug report
use f10 in game to report the bug
is that ok to do even if the bug report's screenshot doesn't apply?
Yup.
ok cool, just wanted to make sure, thanks!

Poseidon and Hermes feel like traps
at least Poseidon is good for farming what you need early game
hermes has some amazing boons
his cast machine gun is super nice
and so is his dash speed
his legendary is also pretty good (the cast returns to you)
as for posei
he can be super fun if pair with someone like zeus
Hermes is a nice supplement to whatever build you are going for, really
knockback just isnt reliable enough and doesnt help with you bosses at all
Poseidon is like polarizing
His boons for room clears are like stupid, but his damage against bosses tho, ouch
Oh, and yeah some weapons don't like the knockback too much
but for those that do, oh boi
You kinda need to pair poseidon with a boss-killing god to get anywhere tho lol
poseidon's dash + rupture + zeus lightning duo + jolted deals some crazy damage
The wall splats alone can destroy rooms in a short time
but yeah
that's about what it does
Is there any consistent way to farm jewels? (gemstones)
I'm tryin to get merchant stuff
but its going very slowly
alter fate on darkness/nectar
also Heat gauge is super fun but i wish I could stack the rewards instead of 1 by 1
Yeah, the game doesn't get harder/different fast enough, so it feels like a bit of a grind
no
i consider these kinds of runs incredibly blessed
yeah I always do a boon-less run to start and see if I get a hammer
if you're really smart, you play through to see the first two boons, then you restart, pick a boon that matches the second boon, and you get two of the same boon at the start since the first one changes to match the second
Maybe they have saves and theyre just replaying the same seed over and over
I am usually an fps person, but I've bought all the previous Supergiant games and really loving this rogue-like(?) experience so far. Just what I'd expect from you guys! o_o
Stupidly awesome game, but please clean up hit/hurt boxes and i frames >_<
the ? is there because the more appropriate nomenclature is rogue-lite
First time playing. Picked up a bow and it's telling me to Release {left mouse click icon} while flashing to power shot. How do i do that?
press and hold the mouse button and then release when it flashes
You mean the flash that happens after like 0.5/1 seconds of holding the mouse?
ye
if you do it right you should see streaks on the edges of the screen briefly and deal 60 base damage
It's not working
The task isn't finishing when i do that so i assumed it wasn't that, i did that before posting here
if you wait too long it doesnt do the power shot
you have to release precisely at the moment
it takes a bit of practice and good timing
ahhh, yeah
Worst part is.
same mechanic as in Bastion if you played that
for the dash attack, yes
...I was talking about the shield hammer, so I guess it makes it 3 in total
imagine if spear spin had a power shot
That will power-throw it in the garbage disposal.
why, its free extra damage if ur good
Why sometimes Zagreus bends the knee and stay in that position? Yoga practice?
The thing about the spin is... I usually lie in wait with it charged, cuz getting slapped while you spin like balerina in the corner is not that cash money if you ask me.
you can dash while you are charging, so that makes it safer
Cool posing is extra style points, and there is no way you can pass on style.
extra style is cool posing in your opponents faces, not far away, do you even DMC
I was dreaming recently about full Hades to DMC conversion. That was so beautifull I legit woke up depressed.
When is the next major patch?
in 2 weeks or so
there's a timer in the main menu
or maybe it's just a timer for regular patches, i don't remember 😕
should be like 8-10 days at this point
can't wait
Can't find any info about in online
Is hell mode next patch or have I not gotten to that yet?
Last Dev stream they said they'd talk about next patch, but they skipped
what do you mean
There was like literally zero information on every new patch. If you don't count the silhouettes.
Maybe next patch adds hats
So Meg could whip your butt yeehaw style?
Some Zag noise of fulfillment
@wise nebula I'm asking if the past form of verb beat is still beat.
yes it is
past tense is still beat
Your question almost sounds philosophical. makes me wonder.

i just woke up and where the hell is @mellow vessel
all of their ideas are absolute gold
@willow mural too. i would absolutely die to see Lord Hades' reaction to Zag putting a Heracles pinup in his room
theres already an achilles poster there
[andwhataboutitarianagrande.gif]
i think itd be hillarious if the ONLY heracles cameo in game is a pin up
"theres your blasted heracles, boy, now stop bothering me about wanting to see him"
The wretched broker is just heracles in a fat suit
Hey, y'all. I require some knowledge. If I have enemies move/attack 50% faster, bonus enemies spawn, AND mini-boss encounters are more dangerous on.
Is there a consistent, run-agnostic way of dealing with Death Barge?
Or is it really just up to your run being good enough when you get there
nothing i can think of thats specific for death barge as opposed to just general run advice. killing the shield things is pretty obvious, the rest is just basically what you have the most trouble with
inferno bombers vs slam dancers etc
you can know when it would come and try to avoid it i guess
like selecting other routes but they may as well not be available
Oh that's another question. CAN you avoid a mini-boss encounter
or are you guaranteed to have one?
you can skip it but not always
I see. good to know
Yeah the bombers and slam dancers are REALLY hard to deal with when they all have armor, there's 10 of them, and you don't have space. :(
It's kind of a shame that the death barge is just absurdly more difficult than the other mini-boss encounter.
do you really find megagorgon much easier?
i agree on the other ones tho
i mean megagorgon upgraded with max speed is crazy unless you bug it
I mean, on my personal experience, I have basically beaten the gorgon/head duo much easier
I almost always lose a whole defiance against the barge.
oh - also: bonus enemy spawns should not affect mini boss rooms, right?
i think it does...
If it doesn't, then great. I was just listing down all my possible heat modifiers
for the transport in Asphodel at least
Is the answer to just "use chaos shield every run if you have those heats on" so that I don't lose a defiance at Barge
yea i mean max a month recent
or do I just take into account that I'll always need an extra defiance to account for barge
am I the only one that thinks that thinks that shield is pretty damn strong vs. bosses?
affects that transport, spawn more dude with shields.
was easily able to beat hades with god awful upgrades using shield :|
^
Spugelo, Shield is often lauded as the "best weapon" in the game
So it's not surprising.
it's just too bad that beyond charge attack, the weapon itself it's all that... cool or fun to use.
Shield is the bread and butter but not so fun to use anymore.
It's boring but effective
i dont find it boring 🤷♂️
use more for grinding until it gets to the point of boring
well, whenever I'm using my shield, I always end up with the usual shield charge, dodge attack, shield charge dodge attack...
I bet dodge poison did almost half of my damage to hades <.<
Funny. I basically never bull rush as shield (assuming I'm not using Chaos shield)
but if you are using chaos shield, then yeah, I guess.
I do both. when enemy haven't spawn yet I charge up bullrush
and sometimes just using bullrush for the blocking
Fair
and then bullrush and wait for enemies to spawn and then toss the multiple shield.
I like replacing the spin on the spear with the rapid attack
^
really liked it
broke a new record using it
a bit less than 30 minutes
0 heat tho...
Its fun and it continues even if u dash
I went with tripple dash, both offense and defense in same package
I almost lost the run tho xD
used all revives and had 20% hp left
but hey, new record and I didn't lose so, who cares?
Yeah. We all get better
My current fastest run is a 9 heat sword run at 19 minutes.
I've seen speedrunners go to 8 minutes for a full run at decent heats too
I bow down to them
noticed that sword has quite powerful aspects
world splitter?
I failed my first hades attempt when he had 1% hp left, it was my first attempt too. Ever since then it was downhill xD
i always forgot the name of that chopping Daedalus skill
until recently when I started winning spree
90 base damage crazy
90 base damage?
yeah replace your normal attack with a 90 base damage chopping thingy
which weapon is that?
its world splitter for the sword
Sword
oh is it some weapon upgrade?
ohh, no wonder. never seen upgrades for it, ever since I got spear never touched sword again.
such amazing Nemesis crits
brainless chopping if your lucky
yea noticed nemesis... MIDLY regretting spending 9 titan blood for zagreus on bow and exagryph
10% crit bow was nice, but... nememis. bruh
Nemesis is my fave weapon
You basically see a lot of big angry numbers pop up
it's fun
I like chopping and watch the 1k 1k 1k crits number floating around
basically special and world splitter are both just chop chop chop
probably...
I'm investing Nemesis sword, Chaos shield, Hestia gun, Chiron bow and Hades spear
I really dunno which spear aspect is better..
just really like AoE of Exagrpyh, just normal attack felt like a bit lacking and upgrades for it aren't all that impressive either... it's only good when you get the right boons and hammers :|
maybe zeg aspect is better?
all 3 aspects of spear sound very powerful imo
i'm clueless with spear
description of achilles aspect make it sound like it can reach one of the highest damages in the game, probably?
My best attempt at spear build is Dionysus with special that bounce around.
so I can cowered behind a wall and randomly throws spear around.
Dionysus? ohhh... is the 4th aspect added to the game?
I'm guessing I'm really not playing it to the full potential here.
the poison stack boons
oh wait nvm. Dyonysus is a god right?
yes
hey, I just started playing the game yesterday and my favourite thing has been getting the 3 bombs on the railgun and throwing them while running
^I like that and rocket on the railgun special.
I suck with the spear but somehow got to elysium with it on first run
Oh yeah just tried rocket today
I literally forget the normal attack when using that weapon
Its special is so much better usually
so your railgun is now officially rocket launcher or grenade launcher now.
well, noticed that when you have enough upgrades, getting to final boss is kinda easy. Hardest part is to not lose too much hp and revives before the fight and then not lose the fight.
have enough DD(death defiance) b4 boss fight for the win
yeah you oughta be quick and drink the antidote from the fountain when poisoned.
yes you can get more than 3
you can get more than 3?
refills, skelly and one extremely rare (legendary) Chaos boon
I usually need 2 b4 hades just to be safe
just got the keepsake which gives invulnerability for 1 sec when you take damage, i want to get through styx with that, but recent runs have been kinda pathetic, especially since I am currently not sticking to a weapon for running
only recently found out about Chaos prophecies, that legendary boon is hard to find
I am more awed by everything other than the gameplay to do some actual gameplay xDD
Had 4 DD last run
btw, are there any limits to boons that give you benefits by building them up? like beat a room with 0 hits or quickly enough.
I got to eurydice room last run, was sitting there for a solid 3 mins listening to the song
not that I know of...
well even if there was a limit, doubt I'd reach it lol
I am so happy with this game, its actually the first game i bought with my own money
So worth within the first day
Also, the art seems to be made by actual olympian gods, along with the music. I literally sit in the main menu getting goosebumps for a solid minute before starting
Really liking the dialog. It's almost like somebody who actually knows how to write wrote them.
Oh yesss, and the voice actors
my god I feel like an actual potato when i play the game, everyone in it sounds so cool
voice actors brought me into the game, I heard my friend streaming the Zag v Meg fight and melted
Just zagreus alone
New here, anyone can recommend some content creators for Hades?
I think wanderbots has been making a lot since the beginning
dont know anyone apart from that because this is one of the few games I feel like playing rather than watching, cause atleast for the initial few days, im gonna be having fun and not focusing on actually grinding up or anything
the amount of miscellaneous conent in this game is enough to fill like 2 generic rpgs with lore
content*
@bright walrus Northernlion has been doing a fun series on it
One of my favourites is the old narrator whose voice zagreus can hear xD. Actually had tears come out of my eyes in the persephone scene.
thx
Wish I could refund ||aspects||. Would have much better use for the 9 ||titan blood|| I successfully wasted on ||aspects||| I do not like xD
so zaggy just said "i think i need a shave" in the mirror.
@supergiant games zagreus stubble art when
Also, when deciding what to pick for heat... I went with trap damage for first one. "Oh it's just traps. Just don't step on a trap, what could possible go wrong?" In the end I probably took half of the total damage from traps T. T
Yup, final boss has an attack that counts as a trap :)
one of the worst traps.
Lemme date meg pls thnx
Lemme date meg pls thnx
SGG: I'll do you one better
I just knocked skelly to the very end of the ledge overviewing tarturus. Would be awesome if there was some easter egg dialogue there
jump
oh damn nice. didn't realize how many levels you can get for olympian favor. 27% and still can go higher?
for the rare chance, yeah, for epic it's capped at 25%
Yeah get rare and epic capped.....and then get pissed when you see normal boons cause you won't see alot of them lol
sometimes your so unlucky and the all 3 options are still just common
guessing with rare and epic maxed would quite easy to beat ||Hades|| even with garbage synergy boons.
What is Chaos shield's max rank? Lvl 5?
Meh I'll sacrifice 3 ambro to max it ig
keep some ambrosia for later
i guess you're ok to exchange some blood then.
What's the combo with the shield again? Charge - special - repeat?
Haha! ||Hestia aspect|| at level 4 is god damn powerful. Takes only few seconds to kill Skelly
also bullrush when enemy spawning, toss the shields later still works
Hello everyone
Well I know what weapon I'll be using for next few runs.
sometimes bullrush - special is just overkill, normal special would also work.
o/

I have a feeling that big dusa head fight will tilt me hard
Hey, im looking around i i cannot find how to get roles, where do i need to look for that ?
iirc it was #bot-commands
block and throw, block and throw if dashing doesn't work too well.
ty ❤️
type ?rank for the list of roles under #bot-commands
What are the chances to get normal-rare-epic-heroic boons?
If epic 10% and I have in the mirror +25% then it will become 12,5% or 35%?
probs 35%
I don't feel like it's that low like 12.5%
i have the rarity boost capped in my mirror
So, if you max out pobs in mirror then there are nearly never normal boons?
pretty much feels exactly like the cap, ||50% for rare 25% for epic||
with chaos boons that boost your rarity almost never common boons.
if you're really unlucky you still get common ones but they're really not 'common' anymore.
Does anyone else’s copy of hades freeze after they open the Microsoft game bar until they flicker the screen via alt+tab etc?
mine's fine
Hmm it shouldn’t be my computer...
maybe try fiddling with fullscreen window fullscreen and update win10 or graphic card driver something.
and v-sync?
#h1-tech-support maybe
Oh I was looking for that channel
What's the best designed boss fight in everyone's opinion mine is Hades himself
Hello everyone. I may have detected a minor bug in the game. Is this place the right place to post it at?
F10 in game. Just read that now. Sorry
Hey, if i wanna go back to the house of hades
the fastest way is to let an enemy kill me right?
there is no "end run" button?
There's a give up button
but it doesnt shows up everytime
the meg fights are my favorite
the give up button acts like a death right?
the only boss fight with some variety
you can give up in a room with enemy i think
it cancel whole run
then just see how far you can get
Just keep going, you’ll die eventually
die trying is the underworld way
sometimes i just get stuff that i dont like and its such a bore to keep on going knowing i will get my ass handed by the big man upstairs
You won't always get the RNG you want, the best way to make the game enjoyable is to practice with everything and get good at them
If you only play runs you get great rolls, you'll only have fun a third of your runs 😉
For sure, but if you aim for very specific boons and try to get like, a Duo boon, it can be harsh
oh yeah, they are something to treat as icing on the cake
For exemple I often try to get Premium Vintage as often as I can (simply love that boon) but I can't seem to get it that often
I personally want to see Hephaestus in the game
Daedalus kinda took his job
Anyone know how to get skelly to start giving u his statues?
beat 8 heat with multiple weapons
just takes one
idk what it takes for him to provide them in the first place though, I started prior to them being added
beat one get the next.pretty much.
hmm maybe i haven't talked to him enough
I’ve only just met than btw
yeah probably that.
are the statues in the corner for you?
I don’t even know if Daedalus is personified in the game
nope and its' not giving me the achievement in game either
i'll check after 8 conversations i guess
for his next codex entry
you might have to gift skelly a certain amount, or buy something with gems/diamonds from the guy near hades
are you on heats yet, like did you beat the game at least once
not sure about how to trigger it, but i think with some heat level and relationship he'll just give you the first statue trial.
"cos i've done up to 10 heat and nothing"
that's.. troubling.
You have to click on the statues that are in the bottom right corner of the skeleton room
i think i have my first just around 10-ish heat
At least, I had to, at which point the skeleton was like, “oh yeah, here’s a statue”
Skelly gave me the option to get statues when I was around Heat 3, but I get heat up on all weapons equally, and I had Skelly at max friendship for a while there
oh you mean the statue is already there but you can't seems to get it done?
yeah need to investigate it first
Have you exchausted all dialogues with him? Like when you talk to him, what does he say?
For me he's always saying the same lines these days, I exhausted the dialogue options
me too.
It’s super awkward, because I literally only knew the statues were there because I saw that other people had them. I never would have just randomly clicked on them otherwise
super late but am i the only one who prefers the barge over the megagorgon?
especially when i'm running bow and/or don't have athena boons
I kinda like Barge but it messes Speedrunners
best typo ever LOL
yeah. YEAH.
Yeah I like the barge more 90% of the time
plus it gets its own music! 
one of my fave tracks is the barge one
I do like Mega Gorgon too, I think the fight is interesting, but it lacks a bit of unique feel
Barge sucks with buffed elites, but buffed megagorgon sucks even more ~_~
I like the barge more
Both ways in this biome are the reason why I hate elites in pact
Most other elite fights feel unique in their own way (Barge and Minotaur come to mind)
ya i think i've probably not talked skelly enough
I think it's something that'll change as the game updates, some elite fights show as being placeholder (Tartarus!)
i've exhausted with everyone else in the house but i forget about him lol
You forget about best boy?
Next time you talk to skelly, think of the fact that Zagreus and Skelly are voiced by the same person
It's really just a monologue with voices
An impressive range
Indeed
I wonder who the new Olympian could be I would love to see Hera Queen of the gods
I assume the gods that are mentionned in the Aspects are likely to come as Olympians?
So Hera would be possible
I'm interested in something akin to Demeter myself.. especially since she is the mother of Persephone
my birthday gift to myself is probably just going to be playing the new update all day
how did I never find the spear upgrade that causes your special to do area damage before this is amazing
I'm hoping for Apollo personally
I don't see Hera in Hades by the virtue of the fact that Supergiant probably aren't really into delving in the fact that Hera is Zeus' sisterwife
Demeter would hype me
@late saddle When's your birthday?
demeter with plant theme sounds awesome
hera is what the goddess of the home/hearth?
not sure what that would entail
21st, Xgp
marriage and birth i think
ironically
yeah. i find charm pretty useful since it works on everyone
Congrats!
The peel ending is the best so far
Triple rockets with the gun plus doom or posion is amazing
Does Hades use steam cloud or should I transfer my save files over when I switch computers?
@light bay Please report bugs in-game by pressing the F10 key! This lets you describe the bug and sends a screenshot and your save data to the folks at SGG so they can check it out and work on a fix ^^
Is this an in-game feature?
Wops sorry I missed that 😅
@warm hedge My save files are on my hard drive, so I'm assuming your saved files are on your hard drive too
The only possible precaution is to make sure you transfer files to and from the same game version. Like, if you backup your saved files today, then pasted them into your new computer next month (and the game is a different version then), then I'm not sure if it would error
Nemesis sword is the easiest aspect to work with, in my experience
Maybe the others are better, idk, but I do best with that one
Nemesis sword is my favorite, but honestly it's so much easier and safer for me to hit things from afar with the chiron bow
Nemesis sword or Chaos shield are probably the easiest i find as well
Nemesis is quite insane with the damage output it can do if you get lucky with the crit and set up.
can make pretty much any kind of build work with those two
I'm getting pretty far up on hestia rail
while others u need a little bit more specific stuff
haha
It's actually kind of funny how I completely dismissed it when I first unlocked it
25 whole damage on manual reload
I might give it a go later ¯_(ツ)_/¯
but right now I'm having fun with 400+ damage aphrodite manual reload shots
dang, game froze
that's a first for me
I had cutscenes where I'm still charging my weapon
So it's chill
Its funny looking too
hum, I think maxing out the hera bow may have messed up the multi-cast 😦
I don't know if it was intended to be done or not so I don't know if that counts as a bug lol
Or maybe it's the no-charge shot
patrocles' trinket also makes lasers pretty trivial
Is there a place where you can talk about bugs youve seen? not sure if its been reported but I had a bug wherein after I charmed (aphrodite boon) bone hydra heads would hit me while charmed for 136 damage
ty
No problem, "the welcome to peck update", one of the mods informed me of this earlier today actually.
huh, always seems to be a happy concidence things like that
Yeah. They were very useful, even though I was being a doof.
sounds like some good mods
Yup!
my name's sparrow, by the way ;)
Holy smokes, I didn't know that Noclip also has released videos of the development of Hades. I know what I'm watching tonight.
another thing if anyone knows it, is it guaranteed how many rooms you will get that are darkness/gemstones/keys/nectar
Doubt it
Hestia
build you go for?
attack damage % increase?
question, is the 150 damage a separate instance
or can it get augmented by % damage boons
so if i have Aphro's 100% attack daamge boost, that means that it'll do 300 damage on first shot?
I can't quite remember, but i'm pretty sure yea
150 damage even if you have to just go a crit build is still insane
it just makes the first shot 150 damage, so yes

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