"Your Special automatically seeks the foe last struck by your Attack."
#h1-discussion
upper ibex
brisk trail
yeah that also isnt strong
ive tried it
its like cool but then it doesnt do enough imo
upper ibex
was enough for me
radiant tangle
Have you unlocked every weapon?
upper ibex
good with poison
radiant tangle
Wait, sorry, that's the wrong question
brisk trail
as well as hades spear
radiant tangle
Have you beaten the game?
radiant tangle
You can get more of the Blood once you beat the final boss
brisk trail
ah i see
upper ibex
you can upgrade stuff without beating the game
by beating the bosses with different weapons
radiant tangle
The only gameplay thing that's considered a spoiler is the identity of the final boss, I'm pretty sure
plucky wolf
if im lucky i have enough sometimes
upper ibex
ah ok
plucky wolf
it might not be final
radiant tangle
There's no plans for any biomes after the fourth
uncut thorn
It'd be a final boss, surely
radiant tangle
(As far as I'm aware)
brisk trail
i mean the game isnt that hard tbh
uncut thorn
If there's any other final bosses they'd be bonus postgame fights, binding of isaac style
upper ibex
Is pierced butterfly keepsake op? "Pierced Butterfly Thanatos Gain +1.5/2/2.5% damage for each Encounter you clear without taking damage. "
radiant tangle
It's not op, since it locks you out of using other keepsakes
uncut thorn
if you're good at not taking damage then the op thing is you, surely
plucky wolf
well other keepsakes arent that op either
radiant tangle
But it is very good
plucky wolf
yes
radiant tangle
I gotta go to sleep now. It's been great talking with y'all!
upper ibex
With just one cast boon*
upper ibex
Hard to keep hitting ppl with shield because huge knockback
brisk trail
you can get rid of the knockback
but when you hit htem into a wall
its like 2 damage to a nuke
KABOOM they poof
upper ibex
Yeah but getting rid of it is not consistent
brisk trail
eye shield fixes it
by spamming rush and q
you can knock up a ton of damage
the only thing you DONT wanna do is get aphrodites shotgun thingy
if you keep the range then you can do more damage
probably enough to carry you to the end
upper ibex
Upgrade that makes many projectiles after rush?
brisk trail
yes
upper ibex
:p
hardy drum
how does Aphrodite's call work on the final boss?
does he just not attack for 5 seconds?
does he self damage?
plucky wolf
lord hades loyal to his waifu
dire cedar
Ok, sword rly is bad right now
opal helm
Sword is probably the fastest weapon you can finish the game with tho
dire cedar
i think shield is still faster
plucky wolf
fastest ive done is with the spear
dire cedar
i have only to beat it with sword
dire cedar
yeah
plucky wolf
middle management?
dire cedar
i don't remember name
plucky wolf
extreme measures
plucky wolf
ahhh
brisk trail
I think best to worse is spear shield gun sword bow
empty ferry
i think they are all roughly equivalent except sword
brisk trail
No the spear is amazing same with shield
Imp of course
Imo*
Gun is mediocore in damage
simple talon
Also, spear is so fun to play with
brisk trail
Yeah that too
simple talon
I love the bow but i find it a bit.. humm... slow ? compared to the others weapon
proud orbit
imo gun is bes
brisk trail
Gun has the same issue with bow
But has better aoe
And overall damage
So its mediocore
proud orbit
rail has like the highest dps in the game
jovial sun
I like the sword more than spear 
brisk trail
Yeah if you perfectly fire it constantly
If youre in a game it can be hard to get that damagd out imo
But it depends on our playstyles
I prefer those big hits
proud orbit
das fair
proud orbit
well
i agree with you on base rail then
i was including aspects in my assessment
base gun is pretty weak
brisk trail
Yeah
uncut thorn
gun is turbofun when you get a boon that procs every hit
proud orbit
ye pretty boon and hammer reliant
uncut thorn
yea
brisk trail
Eye shield is good overall
Posion yes
Legit anything works on it
Maybe not weakness
proud orbit
weakness in combination with poison maybe lol
brisk trail
Yeah
Shield works tho its reliable
Spear is good
Id say more rewarding with hades
Spear
vivid charm
is there anything I can do with Darkness beyond the 2500 cap if I play hard mode?
At least I can trade the keys away 😦
brisk trail
nope
you'll sometimes get a deal at the broker for a small amount of darkness but that's it
vagrant totem
I've been having a really great experience with Hades for the last few days, and I wanna leave a nice note that the developers may read, however I'm hesitant to use the feedback channel for it because, while I am giving feedback on the game, I'm not really speaking about any one thing in particular. Is there any more appropriate channel I can post in where the devs may see it?
livid cargo
@vagrant totem id ask a mod they might have more guidance
brisk trail
I love the hellish mode, but pushed away the limitation at the Mirror of Darkness (((((I would love to increase the number and health of the monsters, but not losing the ability to pump.
you'll be able to do that on a normal save after beating the final boss
@brisk trail ohhh thx man))) i dont know that)
pleasure
@brisk trail And what kind of last weapon appears?
@brisk trail The last slot, after the adamant slot machine.
yet to be added
@brisk trail after update?
maybe?
dire cedar
lost against final boss 4 times in a row
brisk trail
ok
dire cedar
with sword
vagrant totem
@brisk trail you really like using the @ don't you homie
Shirenn, is ||Hades|| the final boss? Just fought them for the first time and died with 1 hit to go and I'm just curious
brisk trail
yep
vagrant totem
lmfao god damn
I wanna die
literally 1 tick of the poison already on them would've killed them
and I died to an ad
brisk trail
don't worry, you'll get there next time
oak knot
the narrator is the final boss
vagrant totem
Hopefully. I just unlocked the railgun
spice pebble
tbh the bow is the best
vagrant totem
I mean, the narrator is canon within the game. Zag yells at him several times as if his voice can be heard by everyone.
Bow is my least favorite weapon so far
narrow karma
why so?
vagrant totem
I like the sword's dash attack, and did well with it on a doom build
spice pebble
shoot and run away ez
vagrant totem
The spear is my favorite by far
brisk trail
What other mythical bosses in the game are there besides Megera, Theseus, Minotaur and Hydra?
vagrant totem
for many builds
The shield is so defensive and a special-based build with it is what got me so close with the final boss
and the railgun feels like a faster bow
brisk trail
@brisk trail meg's sisters later and the final boss and that's it for now
spice pebble
i've never beaten the game with the shield before
narrow karma
shield can smash enemies into walls for days
narrow karma
I've got the most clears with it
spice pebble
there's still Medusa if you count mini boss
vagrant totem
I was hesitant with shield at first but it dominates with the right support
narrow karma
block and shoot, block and shoot, pew pew
brisk trail
it's not medusa, it's just a big gorgon head
Chaos Shiled +5 is the best with Ares or Dionis
vagrant totem
the special with the daedelus upgrade for more bounces, plus the one for more damage, plus hermes' special attack speed increase, plus the dionysus poison procs on special hit
that's how I almost won
spice pebble
oh wow ok
vagrant totem
mixed that with athena's cast
narrow karma
I like the one that removes your movement from the rush, so you don't slam right into a radius attack
dire cedar
Bow with Hera aspect is cool
vagrant totem
but the bouncing shield just wiped out every enemy in the room by spamming it to stack poison
plus the bouncing shield destroys projectiles
spice pebble
Hera Bow with aphrodite cast for insane dmg
narrow karma
destroying projectiles is less fun than deflecting them imo
vagrant totem
I haven't even unlocked aspects yet lmfao
brisk trail
almost won on my last shield run but a green pot got me at the lasts second
vagrant totem
I unlocked the railgun like 5 mins ago when I died to the final boss
dire cedar
Aphro Cast, Dio Attack and Aremis buffs on Hera
spice pebble
railgun is pretty fun
vagrant totem
I've felt as though aphrodite has been the most disappointing olympian
spice pebble
i like poison better
brisk trail
nah, aphro has great boons and duos
vagrant totem
her and poseidon
dire cedar
yeah
vagrant totem
I'm not at the point in the game where I get duos or heroics though
narrow karma
Weak status feels less impactful than the other statuses
spice pebble
i normally avoid poseidon
dire cedar
Duo of Aphro and Poseidon gives so much
brisk trail
Who is Dionysos compatible with?
dire cedar
if you have good RNG
spice pebble
there's a boon to let weak enemies take more dmg
brisk trail
щл ерч
vagrant totem
I've only ever used the duo of zeus and artemis and it was really strong
brisk trail
ok thx
vagrant totem
I paired it with dio cast
brisk trail
weak is useful for privileged status and has a +% damage boon linked to it
vagrant totem
just dropped 3 nukes and then let them act as a tesla tower
dire cedar
that gives you more dmg on enemis with 2 curse efects
brisk trail
)))
narrow karma
Dionysus + Zeus duo, then increased damage in fog, on my Hera run with Tipsy Shot
spice pebble
curse effects are jolted, poison and all that right
narrow karma
just shooting clouds of deadly lightning
vagrant totem
I really hope Hephaestus is added someday, my favorite god in the greek pantheon
spice pebble
keep an eye on the rail
upper ibex
"Hera run"?
brisk trail
bow aspect
upper ibex
ah
dire cedar
they will add only one more Olympian
upper ibex
for second I thought hera got added
narrow karma
Hera Bow, instead of shooting casts normally you put them into your arrow and they hit where you fire
dire cedar
and i don't think it would be Hephaestus
brisk trail
current theory is demeter
dire cedar
yeah
vagrant totem
what would demeter do?
upper ibex
daedalus fills the smith role
brisk trail
because Fire
dire cedar
next weapon will be 100% demeters one tho
brisk trail
Dots
narrow karma
killstreak damage? "harvesting souls"
vagrant totem
fire + daedelus interactions
spice pebble
time to start saving my keys
vagrant totem
like how dio has interactions with nectar pickups
brisk trail
and next weapon better Mace or club on chain or Axe
dire cedar
if it's Demeters then Scythe is most possible
upper ibex
chakrams
spice pebble
scythe would be cool;
vagrant totem
poor hephaestus doesn't even have an aspect named after him :(
narrow karma
what's the connection between new Olympian and new weapon?
narrow karma
just theorizing?
dire cedar
all weapons are the weapons of Chronos Kids
Zeus, Hades, Poseidon
Hera, Hestia
and 6th is Demeter
narrow karma
aha
brisk trail
Something like this: https://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2014/201409/ENTERTAINMENT_140939977_EP_7_BWCCDWKBRTJL.jpg?w=620
Ares
with Club
narrow karma
so the 6th weapon should have at least one Demeter aspect
vagrant totem
well with that said, why isn't hera in the game?
dire cedar
yeah
vagrant totem
every other weapon's god is
narrow karma
and a Scythe would be an easy one to give Demeter aspect to
vagrant totem
and all give boons with the exception of hades, for good reason
narrow karma
maybe Hera's tracking down ||Zagreus' runaway mother||?
vagrant totem
Also, Demeter may have some kind of bo staff with some magic on the special?
such as in this depiction
brisk trail
The main thing is that they continue to develop the game, if they globally saw content on Greek mythology, introduce everyone and everything, firstly, it will be the best PC game on a mythical topic, secondly, personally, I would buy all the DLC, without any problems.
vagrant totem
I feel as though sword and scythe have some overlap on their uses
narrow karma
true
uncut thorn
maybe demeter will get the fabled ranged weapon you can use while moving
narrow karma
a club/mace would become a staff fairly easily via aspect change
vagrant totem
I would love to see a greataxe or polearm
narrow karma
targeted to those players for whom the sword isn't slow enough
vagrant totem
I mean, even in monster hunter games you've got heavy weapons like the greatswords, and then the heavy heavy weapons like hammers and axes
axe could use some kind of sweetspot mechanics as well
plus it's just one of the basic weapon types that you think of: sword, spear, and axe
uncut thorn
marth tipper lets go
brisk trail
vagrant totem
@brisk trail mate you can hardly see the weapon in both of the images you've sent
unless you're suggesting that dude be the new weapon
"Zag's homie" new weapon confirmed
narrow karma
Zagreus just swinging a dude around wildly by the legs to hit things
brisk trail
@vagrant totem Dude is just an idea, broader thoughts)))
narrow karma
ooh, you could just hold attack button and get a continuous whirling death around you as you move
vagrant totem
Zagreus be like
@narrow karma
or we could just pull straight from the Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition rulebook and have 'dead goblin' be the new weapon
aspect of demeter is just a dead farmer
proud orbit
that doesn't seem like the right sort of thing to post here lol
brisk trail
In fact, Lore on the topic of the mythology of antiquity, at least eat some booty, it remains just to translate them into their cartoon theme, for example, him: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KDxQJo9O5FU/maxresdefault.jpg
vagrant totem
fine, a live farmer
narrow karma
where would you get a live farmer in the underworld?
vagrant totem
homeslice who are you talking to @brisk trail
@narrow karma hades needs company once in a while and country boys make do
narrow karma
oh no
alpine stratus
keep it clean u guys 👀
vagrant totem
oh wonderful a moderator
alpine stratus
good morning!
vagrant totem
i've been waiting for one of you fellas
good morning to you too
so,
I want to send a message to the developers with some general feedback on how much I enjoy the game, along with some stuff that I wanted to say about the studio as a whole and how it's been consistently one of the best studios since i first started gaming
but I don't think it'd be a good fit for #hades-feedback as it's only really meant for the devs, pertains to more than just Hades, and doesn't really suggest or give feedback to one specific part of the game
it's more of a feel-good appreciation message I hope would make someone smile. I didn't really know where to post it and was told a mod may know where the developers may be able to see it
brisk trail
@vagrant totem I write for everyone, as it were. Idea for implementation and so on. Creativity is the assembly of various elements in any way. It remains only to find examples or referents.
alpine stratus
brodie the devs frequently show up in this discord and will probably see what you post (though they are on a holiday break right now!) putting it in #supergiant-games is best if it pertains to all games, just make sure to spoiler tag as needed!
vagrant totem
I was hoping that there might be some way to send the message without it being drowned by random discussion, if that exists?
narrow karma
perhaps you could send them an email or something?
hardy drum
how are you supposed to deal with chariots (cat noise making thingy's) with sword
simple talon
The one that explode on contact or the big one ?
simple talon
I usually kill em with the right click throw (i have 3 stacks), they are quite weak
but i'm not an expert, ah ah
narrow karma
you can also lure them into traps
vagrant totem
what should the first aspect I unlock be?
I use pretty much all the weapons but the sword and the bow, and I might be willing to use the bow with a cast build
opaque nexus
@vagrant totem lol the 2 weapons you don’t use have good cast build aspects
Hera aspect with bow is one of the strongest in the game
As for the weapons you already use, all rail ones are good and use the one you like the most, Chaos shield is probably the best shield aspect but none are that good, and for spear I personally run Zag because the special is deadly
But Achilles is good too
vagrant totem
thanks! I'll try hera bow
should I use all my titan blood on one aspect or spread it out? I have 5 from the 5 weapons beating zone 1
narrow karma
I think it's best to unlock one tier of each first, so you can try them out and see which you like best
we can all tell you what we consider to be good but your playstyle is your own
early on you can gather a good bit of blood fairly quickly from clearing zone 4 as well as doing heat runs
opaque nexus
Also you get a prophecy for getting 1 of each
Also don’t max stuff out because people say you should
And don’t reset or anything to try to redo it
finite flicker
its funny, im super interested in this game even though i know ill die like a thousand times cuz this isnt a typical game i like to play 😅
warm hedge
How do people feel about the Euridyce foods?
opaque nexus
Hades isn’t that hard
warm hedge
I feel as though the one to upgrades two boons is very frequently the best choice
opaque nexus
They do a good job of not making it overwhelming for beginners
finite flicker
oh really?
opaque nexus
The difficulty comes in post-game
uncut thorn
not that hard but you will still die like 20 times before your first win
which is pretty low for a roguelite all things considered but still tough
night turret
20 before beating the whole thing is not 31 time to kill meg.
finite flicker
the only rogue like game ive tried is Dead Cells, found it a bit too hard me personally xd
opaque nexus
Dead cells so similar
With post-game difficulty options
And you unlock the next one when you beat the previous
lucid scaffold
cinder, how was crit spear?
opaque nexus
By the end you have to beat the whole game and a secret area with no healing at all
Good
lucid scaffold
ye
uncut thorn
Binding of Isaac is another one, which has less overall difficulty modifiers and more lategame path options that open up
finite flicker
well i couldnt get past the first area in dead cells after like 4 hours of gameplay so i kinda gave up but idk if itll make a difference with a controller or not (which i currently dont have)
opaque nexus
Oh dead cells also has foots that open with higher difficulties
And you also only fight 3-4 bosses per run
I feel like this game took a lot of inspiration
And if it improves as much as dead cells did from early access, this could be a masterpiece
scenic knoll
I've gotten to the final boss of Dead Cells like three times but have yet to beat it.
opaque nexus
It’s hard
opaque nexus
Yes
scenic knoll
Yeah
opaque nexus
I beat it 1bc
lucid scaffold
He's pretty rough, yeah
opaque nexus
I popped off so hard
scenic knoll
On another note, I just realized I have the Hades OST but I don't remember ever buying it.
opaque nexus
They’re still updating it
One of the songs in hades sounds like the doom theme
The famous one
That everyone knows
oak knot
final boss in dead cells ramps up the difficulty so much, it's like jumping from Meg to the final boss
opaque nexus
Ikr
uncut thorn
ftl's like that
opaque nexus
And the elites in the castle are bad unless you can cheese them
uncut thorn
the final boss is a difficulty cliff from the rest of the game
opaque nexus
With the sword skeleton you can get in a dodge pattern where you never get hit
lucid scaffold
HotK is a joke with the shield that dashes
opaque nexus
Roll behind him when he first swings, then run away, then jump
lucid scaffold
b/c of the ridiculously long parry time
oak knot
you know with that gigantic weapon people would normally expect his speed would be slow, but no his 2nd swing is faster than light
scenic knoll
What's a shield? This post was brought to you buy dodge gang.
uncut thorn
they posted a silhouette that people rapidly decided was demeter (has a horn + grain)
opaque nexus
What do you think the next weapon is gonna be
oak knot
big and slow melee weapon probably, people speculate it will be a Scythe
opaque nexus
Greataxe or bust
oak knot
or Greathammer
lament hare
I beat 0bc Dead Cells on like the second try and 1bc after ~5-10 hours of gameplay, but 2bc took me 60 hours? I don't remember exactly
I have almost 120 hours on it now and still stuck on 3bc
oak knot
if it's scythe then i hope there will be an aspect which makes it stronger everytime you kill an enemy, weak early game but strong late game
lament hare
I LOVE the idea that the Hades team has taken inspiration from that game
agile granite
man a scythe would be so awesome
vagrant totem
is hera bow + dionysus cast good?
oak knot
it's not good, it's great
vagrant totem
any suggestions on what to combo with it?
oak knot
the combo is just that tbh, chaos gate and artemis boon helps a lot and also Dio/Zeus duo boon
vagrant totem
I hate an attack boosting artemis boon that makes it crit
i literally just unlocked aspects so i dont think ill run into any duos
as well as the chaos boon giving +1 cast
narrow karma
duos don't rely on aspects afaik? you just need the prerequisite boons from the two gods
lucid scaffold
no, duos rely on boons you have
lucid scaffold
They show up just fine
duo boons have pre reqs tho
like say for the poseidon/zeus one
you need to have one knockback effect and one lightning effect
some of them have even harder reqs
but for the most part just try to get the two gods whom you want a duo boon from
vagrant totem
so I should be looking for zeus boons right now
since i have tipsy shot
or poseidon
lucid scaffold
both if you want
if you are trying to go for prophecy stuff
then do one at a time
you can get both in the same run if ur lucky
They are just a high tier boon
vagrant totem
don't have propecies unlocked yet
lucid scaffold
so they dont come up too often soemtimes
vagrant totem
so question though
lucid scaffold
yup
vagrant totem
dont have any zeus buffs
should i choose for a zeus boon or a dio boon
already have tipsy shot
vagrant totem
lucid scaffold
so that you select from the same gods more and more
yeah
so go zeus here
and dio will pop up again later
vagrant totem
oop
vagrant totem
opaque nexus
What do y’all think is the worst hammer upgrade for each weapon
vagrant totem
oh yeah the hammer upgrade i got for this bow is great
no more charging for max range
lucid scaffold
yeah so ur playing bow
try to get the zeus spec if you can
you also got a really good attack setup
do you have the signet ring?
or the cup?
trinkets btw
narrow karma
how long do I need to play to recognize boons and effects on sight
opaque nexus
Invest in god keepsakes
vagrant totem
and meg's earring
opaque nexus
They are great
lucid scaffold
when you beat the mini boss
opaque nexus
They allow you to control the rng
vagrant totem
i do not have nectar
lucid scaffold
ah rip
vagrant totem
:/
lucid scaffold
that should be your next focus then
aside from beating the game
grab nectar and give one to each god
opaque nexus
When you get nectar, give one to every other character
opaque nexus
After that funnel it into meg and sisyphus
vagrant totem
ok well now i can get duo boons
opaque nexus
Or skelly
lucid scaffold
understandable
opaque nexus
He doesn’t give much
lucid scaffold
well
vagrant totem
well at first i did it for the wallet
opaque nexus
Give 1 to each god and character
vagrant totem
and then thought i upgraded the wallet by giving more
opaque nexus
So you have them all
lucid scaffold
do what you want yeah, but I would recommend 1 to each first
vagrant totem
then i was like 'ah what the heck im only using the wallet and the collar anyway lets make a friend'
narrow karma
yeah unlocking them all really opens up your options
opaque nexus
No you rank them up by beating encounters
vagrant totem
i realize that now
lucid scaffold
understandable Brodie
opaque nexus
The god keepsakes allow you to customize your boons
vagrant totem
oh hey im getting nectar now
lucid scaffold
nice
vagrant totem
the room after zeus lmao
opaque nexus
Who do you get broken spearpoint from
opaque nexus
Is that the random room guy
lucid scaffold
same thing
upper ibex
piercing butterfly from thanatos is great
opaque nexus
Oh
opaque nexus
Spearpoint low key really good in the last area
narrow karma
What are the collectible upgrades available? I've got Gems+Coin, Key+Dice, Darkness+Health, Nectar+BoonLv
lucid scaffold
that's it
vagrant totem
ares, hermes, or power pom?
upper ibex
in early game you can just cast to clear rooms
lucid scaffold
pom
vagrant totem
do i wanna upgrade my current boons or get new ones
vagrant totem
hermes has that one that lets me dash like 5 times in a row
lucid scaffold
so build on that more
lucid scaffold
yeah, that one is nice on bow
You'll get a better feel for how good each boon is the more you play Brodie
I'd recommend you go with ur gut
upper ibex
how do we get roles btw
lucid scaffold
last channel in the server
narrow karma
#bot-commands
vagrant totem
so at what amount of gold is the shop better than a max hp heart
narrow karma
pinned has the list
vagrant totem
well what if i have like 2 gold
lucid scaffold
then grab the heart
lucid scaffold
shop you need to bring 150 min
lucid scaffold
I usually have 300 for safety
yeah
def go shop then
if youget zeus boon
or dio
vagrant totem
i forgot to start w wallet this time
lucid scaffold
that's fine
upper ibex
thanks
vagrant totem
and 50 gold food
lucid scaffold
how's ur hp?
vagrant totem
guessing just pom
lucid scaffold
if you need it take the health
vagrant totem
68/75
vagrant totem
worth it to buy food for only 7 hp?
lucid scaffold
nah
there is food in the hydra room
to the left and right of the main heads
there are small chests
you can open them for a small amount of healing
one per
use them when ur lower
vagrant totem
f
i died because of a bug
shot 4 casts at boss, he jumps up, casts dont go off
it shows 0/4 in my casts
fight while waiting for them to come back because i figure theyre off map
lucid scaffold
rip
vagrant totem
turns out
lucid scaffold
ah
vagrant totem
i had them the whole time
vagrant totem
so i had to fight the hydra without my casts
nono
i had loaded them
shot
missed
it put them back in my casts
but displayed 0/4
but it was white
instead of red
lucid scaffold
weird
vagrant totem
which sucks
lucid scaffold
did you get a pic?
vagrant totem
i think its an interaction of the hera bow + tipsy shot + rapid fire
lucid scaffold
maybe
vagrant totem
worth it to reroll runs til i get to try out dio + zeus again?
narrow karma
might as well just try some other tactics meanwhile?
vagrant totem
boo
narrow karma
try to get Nectar for the god keepsakes so you can somewhat more reliably get the gods you want
void nova
wait what does giving more nectar to gods somehow affect their keepsakes?
timid ferry
No but I think there’s an passive effect where the more hearts they have, the better there boons
void nova
whaaaa
is that real
lol
i'm skeptical but open to this possibility also
if that's true i wish i hadn't bought a diamond with 10 of my nectar lol
lucid scaffold
I dont think that's true
rarity is influenced by mirror and keepsakes
not by affinity
vagrant totem
the mirror and keepsakes affect rarity?
is there a specific thing for that or just overall level
lucid scaffold
look at the bottom few of mirror
there are 2 that increase rarity
and god trinkets do that passively
vagrant totem
what should i pick here?
on one hand dionysus could offer more roofie cloud bonuses
but ares giving more boons makes zeus less likely
and shop could have a zeus
narrow karma
but you could get Ares/Zeus and Ares/Dio boons 
vagrant totem
ok
lucid scaffold
this choice is asking you, do you want to spend money, or gain 300 free gold worth of stuff
which is great for you
vagrant totem
my first legendary :)
plus attack causing poison + cloud doubling poison with hera bow seems disgustingly overpowered
lucid scaffold
congrats!
finite flicker
so i havent played the game much, barely 10 minutes. but i gotta say that the combat is extremely fluid, it feels amazing 😄 im genuily pleasantly surprised lol
narrow karma
why would you have trouble beating Skelly?
vagrant totem
because i've only just started the game
and my build is pure offense and no defense
and ive only ever fought skelly with really defensive builds previously because that's how i usually play
void nova
Skelly is the skeleton in the House of Hades who basically functions as a training dummy
opaque nexus
Haha sans
vagrant totem
any tips for man and bull?
narrow karma
depends on build, usually focus on one is better ime
kill man first and bull becomes easier to dodge
kill bull first and man becomes easier to Target
usually bull will die first because he comes closer to you more
narrow karma
I had a spear special run with heavy focus on crit damage at distance, man was easily sniped but bull took like ⅓ damage
void nova
i've killed man first at least once
for some reason i always end up just randomly focusing on both of them depending on moment-to-moment circumstance
lucid scaffold
I recommend you kill bull first
man is more than its worth
and his phase 2 is toxic with bull there too
void nova
i love that everyone is saying man and bull now lol
prime mulch
i kille the bull first bc he doesnt block anything with his shield
well he doesnt have one in fact
so its easier
btw what determines whether u fight ||the minotaur|| or ||that stupid butterfly ball|| before the main boss fight?
gloomy talon
If you get too far killing Theseus you have to put up with his godly boons, and the bull at the same time, which gonna cost you more health than you need to expend
void nova
@prime mulch those are just the 2 possible mini-boss fights you can get in that biome
each biome has 2 possiblities, you can roll 1 per biome per run
err except i'm not sure how that works with styx tbh
prime mulch
i hate ||the butterfly ball|| so so much
void nova
yeah it can be pretty evil
prime mulch
id fight ||the minotaur|| anytime lol
void nova
yeah and if you do that then ||apparently he starts with less health in the boss fight, which i've yet to notice lol||
prime mulch
i didnt notice but it makes sense why i killed him so much faster
i fight with a shield and its pretty easy to hit the 2 at the same time with your bull rush
since they chase after u anyway
scenic knoll
Outside of just being a rarity, do heroic level boons do anything?
hardy drum
what changes does hell mode do exactly?
prime mulch
i play on god mode because im very good
lucid scaffold
not sure, still playing on normal mode rn, i dont know what hell mode does
abstract shuttle
Hello, where can I talk about my save file corruption?
lucid scaffold
abstract shuttle
Thank you
willow mural
is there some sort of game standard where commons are white, uncommons are green, rares are blue, epics are purple, and legendaries are orange? I feel like WoW set a precedent and other game designers just go with it so their players don't accidentally pick something low level
wintry cairn
where can I enable the hell mode that's mentioned when you "finish" the game?
graceful horizon
Pretty sure games like Diablo 2 did it first.
But relying in players mental schemas and mental models is usually good practice for effective UX.
Basically, piggyback on what players already know and you won't have to teach them something new.
narrow karma
Hell Mode is a setting you toggle on a new save, I don't believe you can enable it for an existing one.
graceful horizon
i.e. re-invent the wheel
wintry cairn
ohh ok i see
hot quail
when its in early access but its one of your favourite games
really enjoyed the experience
dire cedar
any tips for sword build?
i tried many things already
Artemis build was best i think
but it's still hard to win game with this
stiff ruin
You can do a half decent cast build with Poseidon aspect
granite pecan
aphro/dio is good for sword. having weak and poison is a great combo and both gods can give you additional health and damage resistance
tacit ledge
Is there a leaderboard somewhere with the fastest clear times?
Curious what everyone's best times are and what an average run time should be
void vigil
viscid flicker
too bad it gets cleared out with every major patch
brisk trail
@native rose please do hide spoilers in the feedback channel
native rose
seems kinda obvious you fight him but i did now
lucid scaffold
damn i need to get good
viscid flicker
it certainly helps to play a lot 😛
viscid flicker
not sure, 142 attempts though
narrow karma
but which buttons?
viscid flicker
dash and attack!
lucid scaffold
dont forget special
unless ur playing sword
in which case you need to weave it in with stuff
yo HRoll, I need your opinions then
Which have you done better with, Hestia or Eris Aspect?
viscid flicker
gun is my worst weapon, lol
lucid scaffold
Also what helps your sword runs? Im god awful with it
viscid flicker
i actually haven't tried eris aspect much, i hear it's good though
it should be very strong with triple special though
lucid scaffold
I've had fun with both. Im trying to find out which is better tho
viscid flicker
before there were aspects there was a hammer upgrade that was like eris aspect
lucid scaffold
yeah, trip spec helped me win my first gun run
viscid flicker
and that plus triple special was free wins
lucid scaffold
neat
viscid flicker
what's your goal exactly? to win more consistently or to win at a higher heat level?
lucid scaffold
more consistently. I've got everything pretty much down to a T. I can make it to ||Hades|| on pretty much every run
then its whether or not I win from there
occasionally ill choke on Elysium bosses
but not very often
Sword took me way too long to beat tho
ran at him 6 times before I beat him
viscid flicker
sword does feel pretty bad now 😦 the special used to be faster i feel
viscid flicker
i see
viscid flicker
i do find the rail tough to use on hades since you kinda do damage slowly for how long you stand still
lucid scaffold
yea
that's why I use Hestia
one shot, then dash and reload
get dash attacks off too for more damage with arte dash and chaos boons
things like that
viscid flicker
yeah, that build is pretty sweet
i do dash into projectiles a lot doing that though, lol
lucid scaffold
lol
deft gull
ahhh i just beat it 😍 Bow + Hera aspect + poseidon cast
viscid flicker
i probably have that aphrodite boon in that picture
lucid scaffold
oh yea
viscid flicker
i try to avoid the shop unless i really want something at that moment
static wadi
Good Night everyone
viscid flicker
since you can just get a thing for free
lucid scaffold
yeah
I pretty much dont shop til right before the boss room
and that depends if I want the free item or not
or if I want to cash in
what do you think of Hermes boons?
viscid flicker
they are really strong, but it depends of course
some runs i want them more than hammers (well especially on cast builds)
viscid flicker
i feel like it depends a lot
static wadi
Evasion)
viscid flicker
but move speed after dash is always good
narrow karma
I can't say for sure but Hermes Dodge seems to be on most of my clears
lucid scaffold
yeah, drift dash is great
static wadi
evasion + his trinket
lucid scaffold
that seems fun and all
static wadi
may give awesome thing
narrow karma
I'm not good enough to use the extra speed and not run into attacks a bunch
lucid scaffold
Oh yea, thanks HRoll for the tips and stuff
viscid flicker
no problem
narrow karma
so evading them is still more useful for me, gives me that extra safety
viscid flicker
🙂
static wadi
sometimes u just cant
viscid flicker
i feel like evasion is alright, but like
some of those boons are run changers
evasion is just like, yeah this is decent
viscid flicker
i just think of it as x% damage reduction
if you get hit enough times it's basically the same
lucid scaffold
fair enough.
viscid flicker
and if you don't, then you're good to go anyway
static wadi
random it just what roguelike are)
lucid scaffold
my issue is that the size of the hit changes that completely
like I may evade 40
and that's great
or I may evade 1
viscid flicker
oh yeah you asked about sword earlier
lucid scaffold
yeah
viscid flicker
i just run poseidon only, because i suck at sword
viscid flicker
yeah aspect, sorry
viscid flicker
yeah, it's kinda boring though always doing that
lucid scaffold
But you also cant afford to take a 40+ damage sweep from Final by going melee
viscid flicker
casts just are stronger than basic weapon attacks, and you can keep getting them back with that aspect
viscid flicker
yeah, mostly
lucid scaffold
Go arte for exit wounds or somthing?
or just in general b/c arte is really strong?
viscid flicker
yeah, exit wounds makes it way better
lucid scaffold
and i'd assume whichever cast you are most comfortable with?
viscid flicker
yeah, well not dio or ares
lucid scaffold
yeah
viscid flicker
i mean, those builds are good too, but you might as well use another aspect then
lucid scaffold
zeus can be kinda annoying too
b/c they bounce off the target sometimes
when they have say summons or multiple people
viscid flicker
yeah, i like poseidon's the most but i just take any
lucid scaffold
ie. Theseus and Asterius
yeah
do you grab the status too then?
or do you not focus on proccing priv. status?
viscid flicker
i think you do have to take artemis's decreased dislodge time boon before she offers the good stuff though, even though it feels like a waste
lucid scaffold
yea
viscid flicker
hm, for cast builds i find it more important to have the casts be as good as possible than to be getting the 2 statuses
ideally you will be killing your enemy in one or two rotations anyway
and bosses tend to be easy with the cast builds so you don't need the status
static wadi
i thought best cast is ares artemidas duo?
lucid scaffold
no, they dont get stuck or dislodge
viscid flicker
it is better though
viscid flicker
but if you're going poseidon aspect, you wouldn't want to be planning to get that
lucid scaffold
doesnt poseidon give +50% call damage tho?
static wadi
but i didnt have time
lucid scaffold
ah, makes sense
lucid scaffold
oh yea, i have another thing to ask
how do you deal with Final Boss spin attack
Its super rough to dodge in melee range
or rather get out of
do I just have to iframe it at that point?
static wadi
double dash?
narrow karma
I've found dashing into him to be more effective, since he charges forward a bit when he does it
deep spade
double dash through and behind
viscid flicker
two dashes isn't enough to get out of its range if you're right on top of hades i think
lucid scaffold
oh right, through
duh
im an idiot
i've been trying to go to the side this whole time
viscid flicker
yeah, that sounds good 🙂
lucid scaffold
but it is just shorter to go the way he came, isnt it?
ok. I think I got his fight down pat
Most of my runs are lost to consecutive spins to the face
aight, i gtg ill prob be back later and let you all know how that run went or something
static wadi
good luck
quaint kelp
Hi! Sorry if this question gets asked a lot, but the option to free Orpheus disappeared from the renovation list and even though I buy others I haven’t seen it come back. Is there any way to remedy this?
brisk trail
patience is the only solution for that
quaint kelp
oof
brisk trail
it'll come back, eventually
quaint kelp
Thanks
static wadi
later... may be
brisk trail
you gotta purchase his stuff before he starts singing
Hey guys, I was wondering something - what kind of accent does Zagreus have? I'd love to learn it.
humble pulsar
He sounds either slightly Aussie or British, I'm not good with accents though so idk.
Pretty sure Darren (his VA) isnt either (again, may be wrong though lol) so he's good at doing an impression or the like
(Darren is also the singing voice of Orpheus for reference)
(and SGG's composer)
(and I believe their best Hades player too lol)