#h1-discussion

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olive jungle
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good job getting that far though!!!

balmy valve
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I don't think I'm going to use the Restrict Powerup Options pact again

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It was brutal

olive jungle
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Yeah, that's a rough one

balmy valve
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I was like 'hey this is worth 15 heat altogether, and I think I could deal with it'

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NOPE

quasi sleet
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IMO putting 30 heat in the limited darkness one really makes 60 heat way easier

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tho arguably less fun, epic boons are pretty sweet

olive jungle
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limited darkness is fairly easy to run with

elfin sparrow
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In non-heat runs if you just get dashing wallop on shield, divine dash, and then doom on special, the whole thing becomes an absolute face roll

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I was just mashing left-click/q/space and didn't care about damage at all

elfin sparrow
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This game is freaking great though

brisk trail
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Tenebrous Veil is the toughest Pact, change my mind.

elfin sparrow
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What about capping out healing reduction or damage increase?

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I feel like those will always be hard, whereas tenebrous can vary so much depending on luck

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Though I will say I never really play Tenebrous because it seems so unfun. I'd play low darkness runs any day over Tenebrous

olive jungle
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Even with healing reduction and damage increase, if you've got good boons and your DPS is good, you can have an ok time

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Tenebrous practically removes the option to have a good loadout except in the most fortunate of cases

elfin sparrow
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I have found 100% healing reduction to be unplayable, but maybe I haven't tried it enough

olive jungle
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Though I will say: whipped frenzy Sucks

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, playing no heat runs again was so pleasant

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So much less of a frenetic pace

flat vapor
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whipped frenzy alecto is a run-killer

elfin sparrow
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Seriously

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whipped frenzy and 300%-400% damage increase on her

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Hellish

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So nice when you get a meg spawn

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She is the easiest by far

brisk trail
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Oh, that's why I hate Whipped Frenzy so much.

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I think Tisiphone is solved.

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I just never actually fully take over from muscle memory so I don't read her tells every time.

flat vapor
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i was actually having a good run earlier doing a joke heat build; whipped, tolerance, and vicious all maxed

brisk trail
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I guess that's only with a ranged build, though.

elfin sparrow
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Do you all find bow special to be way too slow to contend with max whipped frenzy?

vapid drift
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tisiphone is really easy, tbh

flat vapor
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because dashing wallop is literally S-tier

elfin sparrow
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I can never make it work

vapid drift
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she has like three attacks and 100% predictable patterns

brisk trail
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I got Dashing Wallop with something nutty recently.

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What Joan said.

elfin sparrow
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dashing wallop is the absolute best

livid cargo
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preach, zane

brisk trail
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If she doesn't start running at you, you're basically 100% safe instantly.

flat vapor
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i figured out tisiphone pretty early on, bc when the other furies first came out she appeared like 70% of the time

elfin sparrow
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Huh, I must just suck and not pay attention against Tisiphone, is she the green or the red one, by the way?

vapid drift
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if she's running at you she's trying to dash-dash-whip

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green

flat vapor
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she still does

brisk trail
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Rail destroys her, and then you can even lure out the thrash easily to put her in place for Bombard.

vapid drift
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and all you do is get near her then dash away and liiiiike... nah. she's no trouble at least if you properly respect the range on those dashes like I don't

elfin sparrow
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Ah okay, yeah I think I just suck when I face her

brisk trail
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Is it weird that I'm more excited for story elements whenever Meg shows up than for the easy boss fight?

vapid drift
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not really!

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the story is a lot of hades's draw.

brisk trail
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The Supergiant writers are so good.

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, after playing so many games without voice acting and then playing Hades I had so much more respect for all of the voice acting

brisk trail
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And the devs are so nutty, too.

elfin sparrow
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It has so much

brisk trail
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zane Dude, Avalon Penrose's voice does stuff.

elfin sparrow
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And it's not terribly written like most video games

brisk trail
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Imagine if it got full-tilt animated and "shot" scenes.

vapid drift
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yeah. there's just... there's so much here? it's wonderful. it has amazing writing. it's not finished but it feels finished. smooth. excellent.

elfin sparrow
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I have no idea who that is 😃

brisk trail
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It feels like a very short but well-made game.

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zane Meg's voice actress.

elfin sparrow
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Yeah seriously, other than some balance it really does feel finished

brisk trail
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Darren as Zagreus is perfect.

elfin sparrow
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Oh okay, nice

brisk trail
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Stinking. Perfect.

flat vapor
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i want zag to sing

elfin sparrow
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The pace is just so great

flat vapor
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give it to me

brisk trail
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onyx Yo.

olive jungle
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Zag's Softā„¢ voice kills me

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It slays me dead

flat vapor
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darren corn pls

vapid drift
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on so many levels hades is excellent to play...

brisk trail
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venspeediss You mean when he's talking yang under his breath?

elfin sparrow
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Do any of you get some weird mouse feel sometimes though? Mostly I notice this with ranged weapons

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Like, I don't think anything is wrong with my mouse

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It just does not feel like it snaps properly at all

brisk trail
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Okay, let me see if I can explain this.

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Your cursor is marking the spot geometrically above where your shot lands.

olive jungle
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nah like, mostly it's when he's talking to Than, he does it once when he's talking to Achilles
the Concernā„¢

brisk trail
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Effectively, aim at their feet.

vapid drift
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^

elfin sparrow
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Huh, not sure if I can picture that, but thanks for the suggestion

brisk trail
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No, really, just aim at their feet.

elfin sparrow
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Though even beyond actual aim

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I am saying it feels sluggish

vapid drift
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for floating enemies aim at their shadow.

elfin sparrow
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Like it is not properly tracking, and I don't have issues in other games with my mouse

brisk trail
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Heck floating enemies, especially armored Brimstones when I'm running the Pierced Butterfly.

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Just make them not attack from off-screen.

elfin sparrow
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I wonder if it's mouse acceleration I am experiencing...

brisk trail
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You ever run into Brimstones on a joke 500% VT run that spawn due north?

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Okay, I'm done, it's out of my system.

tulip lava
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maybe turn down the dead zone setting?

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in controls

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if that's what's interfering with your aim

elfin sparrow
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Oh, can't say I ever noticed that 😬 , what even is that?

tulip lava
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🤷

elfin sparrow
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hahaha, well maybe I will mess with it and see what it does tomorrow

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Thanks for the suggestion

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From google: "areas at the center of the joystick that count as zero"

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So it may very well not have a place for M+KB

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Similar to aim assist

tulip lava
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yeah idk if it's just a controller setting or what i just noticed you said mouse

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maybe it's just regular lag?

elfin sparrow
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Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, that may very well solve my problem, so I really appreciate it

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Off to bed. Nice talking to you all.

brisk trail
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Just got windmilled by a Greatshield on 100% VT and then it fired its Wind Scar through a pillar.

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Blood.

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And.

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Darkness.

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OH. HYPNOS JUST ASKED IF THEY DIDN'T LET THEIR GUARD DOWN AT ANY POINT.

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Cheeky, SG. Very cheeky.

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I guess that's my first GS death.

olive jungle
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i'm a fan of the lines zag has about how stupid it is to have a door lock tied to a fountain lol

brisk trail
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Any time Zag is sarcastic is amazing.

olive jungle
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||"Oh no, not the flame of righteousness"||

brisk trail
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This is honestly a new contender for my favorite game of all-time.

olive jungle
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sgg's bringing their A-game for sure

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i feel like pyre laid a lot of the groundwork for how the story is put together here, with the big cast and everything

brisk trail
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Ooh, that's a good point.

olive jungle
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and the fact that events can happen out of order - like the massive amounts of conditional convos just surrounding ||achilles and patroclus||

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i've seen a combo of four or five friends and streamers each come across that set of interactions in different ways, which has been a treat

foggy kiln
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Aaaaaaaaaand I'm running late to work because I posted PARAGRAPHS in the feedback channel instead of... eating breakfast.

olive jungle
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go go go go go!!

foggy kiln
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Made it on time! Must have gotten a blessing from Hermes!

teal dagger
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Is there a maximum number of times where the Eye of Llamia (not sure of the spelling) can be triggered in the same room ?

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Posted it on another channel but maybe someone here knows

hexed smelt
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i think it might be three?

olive jungle
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see, i think it might be too, but i have no hard proof of that

livid cargo
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Man the wait is gonna suck

olive jungle
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it is, but i at least am gonna be very busy these next couple months, so i'm almost grateful

feral leaf
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Hmm I feel like hermes' boon where you touch enemies and they slow down is way better than his legendary

lapis mirage
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I got my first clear with my 15th run! slapHYPERS

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I was using Shield with Doom Special and somehow stacked up to 6 Death Defiances at Theseus and Asterius. Somehow. I knew I nabbed 2 from Charon's plus the three from the mirror. But I don't know how I got more. Any other way that you gain more of them?

unkempt sleet
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NPC in Elysium, Athena, and Chaos.

lapis mirage
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Didn't run into any of them/their boons. So I probably nabbed three from Charon's shop without noticing.

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But yay! First clear. Doom Shield is so much fun.

topaz lake
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finally beat game on 15 heat

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and all i get is

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||a statue of skelly...||

feral leaf
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Praise him

topaz lake
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no

regal pagoda
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I have proven that the game can be beaten using nothing else but the spear special

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I lost my will to keep going a couple times on the long rocky road though.

feral leaf
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Good job tho! That must have been hard as Hell

regal pagoda
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It was.

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I recorded it, the video is on the Self-promo channel.

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At least I managed to get THAT out of the whole situation šŸ˜„

lean ferry
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now for 30 heat @topaz lake

and then 60

and then 120

topaz lake
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dude

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after that run

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i did a first time spear run

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and i won

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no heat tho

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i run butterfly on heat runs

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and big enemy dmg

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so i can't get hit

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or i die

lean ferry
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butterfly is just such a good addon tbh

if you are good enough you get a significant buff to all damage by the time you get into asphodel and elysium

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but yeah the spear is a solid weapon

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i usually go with the shield or the rail myself, but sometimes ill use the bow or spear

brisk trail
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Universal 30% damage up (even on stuff like Doom, Poison, and Cast) is amazing. The sword is starting to coalesce as a high skill weapon to me, which I think is awesome.

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Aegis is definitely the easiest weapon to use, and Dashing Wallop is definitely one of the best Hammer upgrades, but everything else is capable of matching its DPS with the right build.

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A Strike Chaos Boon, Cruel Thrust, and Deadly Strike mean I'm putting out well over 300 damage any time I crit. It's great.

lean ferry
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i feel like the sword is a high risk high reward kind of weapon because you have to get very close to use it, but it does solid damage

rigid grotto
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ā€œAegis is the easiestā€ would you like to be a part of the church of Sudden Rush

brisk trail
brisk trail
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i prefer play with aegis it's safe xD

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sword is cool but you take lot of damage lmao

cedar valley
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I wonder what the most number of rerolls anyone has

rigid grotto
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It’s 8 or 10 I forget

hexed smelt
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max is ten

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takes 165,000 darkness to get all 10 though so i don't think anyone's done it Legitimately yet

lusty wasp
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i legitimately got 8 but the rest, yea - only gets worse

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but its certainly possible for some to have all

thin lake
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Is there anywhere they have more wallpapers of the various Gods? I've only seen Hermes super small rez but the art is GORGEOUS

olive jungle
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For wallpapers, I think the only stuff is what's on the Hades page of the official website

lean cloud
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165,000 darkness to get 10 rolls on Fated Authority?

<Insert George Takei "Ooooh Myyyy" GIF>

split swift
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I'm working on a project, does anyone have a good reference image for the twisty symbol that shows up all over the place?

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Hades's beard, the gold, etc.

devout plinth
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I believe people refer to it as the mark of hades, if that helps

sterile peak
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you could probably screenshot the loading icon inbetween chambers

split swift
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Good call

vapid drift
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it's a pair of pliers.

vapid drift
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hades just wants zag to ply his trade.

brisk trail
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Booo.

vapid drift
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I have no idea if this is intentional but it makes me wonder

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because it's a very pliers-shaped symbol

radiant tangle
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I thought it was Hades's mustache

vapid drift
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it is, but hades's mustache is also very pliers-shaped

radiant tangle
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I think that's just how his mustache is

olive jungle
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it's like a spear, isn't it?

jolly lodge
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I am misremembering it as a dessert fork, the kind with only two teeth

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the kind you use for cubed melon or other stuff in the fruit salad

lunar iron
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no one:

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hermes: hey b0ss

brisk trail
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I love Hermes.

chilly hare
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wow, just had a tie with thanatos for first time

olive jungle
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woo!!

brisk trail
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i never seen thanatos in my save (23 runs) 😦

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someone have tips for kill Theseus ?

Yesterday i have good stuff but i die when he have 30% hp 😦

olive jungle
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Thanatos only starts showing up after your 23rd run

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If you're having trouble with Theseus, it might be good to try shield? It's safer

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Hermes' automatic cast + hunting blades (artemis/ares duo) is also very good

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Piercing upgrades on bow and gun now go through his shield, so if you can build a strong bow special or gun attack and get that hammer, that could work

brisk trail
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Okey i save that for my next try, thanks !

PS : i just see the 23rd run for thanatos x) on wiki

finite zodiac
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hey does any1 have a save file i can download, i just lost mine thanks to an os reinstall and an epic games launcher issue

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doesnt have to be 100% or anything but i had 10~ hours in the game, most of the mirror upgrades but very little heat really

brisk trail
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Alright, who are the monsters who ask Hermes to be quiet?

hexed smelt
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turn on your locations i just want to talk šŸ”Ŗ

brisk trail
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^

flat vapor
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*Sparrow will remember that.

granite pecan
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i hate that it’s even an option in the game

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why do i have the power to shut this cutie pie up and i cant make poseidon shut up

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or zeus

brisk trail
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^

granite pecan
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it feels really counter to the usual wholesome vibe of hades. being able to be nice to people and everything

hexed smelt
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here's a sad fact

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if you tell hermes to be quiet, he won't even talk if you give him ambrosia

brisk trail
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I just want to talk. šŸ”Ŗ

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I’m a spear and now and arrow main and I’ve gotten to Minotaur and Theseus I prioritize Ares and Artemis encounters what’s do I need to change to beat them

vital belfry
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Bow? Dash attack and crit attack Artemis builds. More importantly? Learn their movement/attack patterns. If you want to play Ares, play shield special for a safer clear.

brisk trail
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Ok

sterile peak
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why is it an option? many other characters are a lot more talkative than hermes and he doesn't even speak outside of taking his boons afaik

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if anything, I'd like artemis to stop going on about how she knows how I feel every time she gives me a boon

granite pecan
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the dialogue is already easily skippable! it feels unnecessary and mean to just get rid of it entirely

sterile peak
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if he was making constant background noise like Falcon Ron, sure
but it seems odd to single out one character

granite pecan
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if only we could make hades shut up

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but yeah i would really like if they removed that option from the game...it feels jarringly mean

hexed smelt
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i mean, if you think it feels mean, then.... don't tell him to be quiet?

granite pecan
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i know, but it feels weird that it’s even an option, and just for that character

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why not have an option for everyone to be quiet, if that’s going to be a feature?

hexed smelt
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because none of the other characters 'work' for you? hermes seems to consider zag his boss

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like, look me in the eye and tell me you think poseidon is going to be like "you want me to shut up? sure, okay! :D"

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i get the feeling hermes is quite used to other people telling him to be quiet, which is why he asks zag about it

granite pecan
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now i hope that when the game is complete, there’s a bad ending, but only if you told hermes to be quiet

void vigil
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the game ends, nier automata style, and you’re brought back to the menu

brisk trail
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I'm up for an extended emotional destruction derby of an ending.

vital belfry
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I thought it was a nod to speedrunning

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Runners already time in-game timers AND total time. I assumed this was like, a way to make a little fun out of such things as a few mouse clicks.

regal pagoda
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@void vigil More like "Telling Mercury to shut up fast forwards to one of the 21 joke endings where the game ends because Mercury commited sudoku over his inability to accept your rejection"

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Or the Infinity War/Endgame Direction where the only one out of million solutions for Zag to make it out lies in telling him to be quiet forever

vale kite
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i got a really cursed post idea but it requires some investment

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also you will hate me

alpine stratus
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go on

vale kite
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i need time

alpine stratus
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oh intruigue

signal spoke
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godspeed

forest grotto
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does anyone know any reason at all to increase the hearts with the ambrosia on any character other than their "artifacts"

signal spoke
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it unlocks new dialogue with the characters and usually they gradually gain a better demeanor towards zagreus

topaz lake
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story

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orpheus best boi btw

halcyon heron
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Are Apollo and Helios the same entity?

hexed smelt
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[wiggles hand] kinda?? ish??

flat vapor
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quick glance at wikipedia tells me

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they were different when apollo wasn't sun-relevant but

halcyon heron
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I mean quick glance at Wikipedia tells me I can't figure it out

flat vapor
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they eventually got conflated as the same thing kinda

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mythology is murky and prone to change so you just kinda have to accept the maybes and could be's

hexed smelt
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In Homeric literature, Apollo was clearly identified as a different god, a plague-dealer with a silver (not golden) bow and no solar features. The earliest certain reference to Apollo being identified with Helios appears in the surviving fragments of Euripides' play Phaethon in a speech near the end... [...] By Hellenistic times Apollo had become closely connected with the Sun in cult and Phoebus, the epithet most commonly given to Apollo, was later applied by Latin poets to the sun-god Sol.

halcyon heron
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So in terms of this game, we would probably see Apollo and no mention of Helios?

flat vapor
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basically helios was the first sun god and apollo was god of [other things] (like healing)

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and then apollo just kinda. took the sun.

halcyon heron
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I'm guessing this enters the Spoiler channel territory

lilac saddle
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when the game comes out on steam will there be a way to transfer save files if we do buy another copy just cuz lol

humble pulsar
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I'd expect not. Granted it's not too hard to locate and swap files assuming that doesn't change between different launchers.

topaz lake
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didn't apollo get merged with helios when artemis got merged with selena

olive jungle
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same general process probably but who knows what the precise timeline was

tulip lava
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i'd like to imagine syncretism as one god eating another

olive jungle
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you're only literally right sometimes, but you're figuratively right all the time!

formal mirage
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yall i think its the funniest thing when you get hades' speech about cerberus and it has his big splash thing but it just says
D O G
really got me

regal pagoda
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What

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Never had that

flat vapor
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L O A F

radiant tangle
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It always makes me happy when people reference L šŸ‡“ šŸ‡¦ šŸ‡«

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It's nice to know that people appreciate my work

cinder basin
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Does anyone stream or have videos of high heat gameplay on recent patches?

olive jungle
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Curl might

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curl always streams high heat runs when patches drop

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but idk if he archives anything

cinder basin
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cool thanks

broken zephyr
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do you guys think this could work well with twin sticks for controller for an alternative option would be good?

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I have played mostly with keyboard and mouse, and tried the controller. I missed my ability to step away while shooting at the enemy easiear.

olive jungle
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i think twin stick aiming has been mentioned before!

broken zephyr
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going to post it in feedback. please vote it. maybe they'll notice and put it in as an option.

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has it been mentioned to the dev team?

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before I repost...

weary ice
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Heyo

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Where can I drop ideas for Hades?

spiral karma
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Hey guys what would be your build for 60 heat? I've been trying everything! ATM I'm going with 100% convinence fee and the 500% damage + Hermes trinket

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but it's still so damn hard

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I tried other stuff, nothing seems to work

brisk trail
thin beacon
foggy kiln
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I have a meeting at work at the time of the Q&A this afternoon...if I leave two questions here can someone ask them for me pleeeeeaaaaaase?

red coral
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What are the questions?

foggy kiln
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1-What have been some of the benefits or challenges of working with existing characters from the Mythology rather than creating entirely new characters like in previous games?
2-A major concern in all types of game design these days is the somewhat nebulous term of "Balance". What are the overall goals for the Design Team in terms of Balance? How will y'all know the game is in a Balanced state?

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Thank you!

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Meeting time!

weary ice
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I dont know where else to say this so ill say it here
Idk how many other god boons you plan on doing but I thought about some of them and I'd like to say it very briefly
Apollo: attacks debuff enemies making them take more damage from other attacks (this stacks) and a sleep effect
Demeter: roots and some form of increased healing/regeneration
Hephaestus: attacks make enemies burn (damage over time like dyonisius but ticks much faster) and some form of deployables (maybe a turret instead of a cast?)

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Couldnt think of anything for hera or hestia (the two remaining major goddesses)

hexed smelt
neon mason
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amazing

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How did I miss this?

hexed smelt
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it's currently unlisted on youtube

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hint: subscribe to the supergiant blast newsletter!

neon mason
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You're my actual hero rn.

worn radish
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How is it that supergiant can make such a large cast so charming and fun? Like, even the A-hole characters are lovely to interact with

atomic flame
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We're also releasing the singles to stream on Bandcamp and Spotify! Last Words should be up on Spotify by Monday.

void vigil
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yessss

gleaming badge
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šŸ™

void vigil
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I wanted to listen to it the other day when I was out but I couldn’t because it wasn’t on spotify and I had no data

neon mason
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You're so good to us, Supergiant. I love, love, love the music for Hades. ; ;

brisk trail
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Is the OST available for purchase yet?

hexed smelt
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not yet!

brisk trail
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What Gods would you want next in Hades
Hephaestus, God of fire and the forge giving a fire/burning effects
Asclepius, God of medicine giving healing and lifesteal
Apollo, god of music and light/sun giving a new effect called distress where they get stunned from load noises or because of a bright light
Nike, Goddess of victory she can give something like Thanatos’s keepsake where we get stronger the more chambers you clear without taking damage of dropping under 40/30% heath
Nemesis, Goddess of revenge her keepsake is you do more damage to a boss or foe you died to last escape but for her boons I don’t know at the time
Janus, God of beginnings, choices and doorways he can make shortcuts threw the chambers, give special boons at the beginning of your run if you use his keepsake

rigid grotto
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Hypnos

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It lets you sleep in the bed

brisk trail
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If you finish his codex entry you should be able to sleep

hexed smelt
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god, i would want hypnos boons irl

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legendary boon: always wake up feeling refreshed

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it is a cruel trick of the gods that i sleep and sleep and sleep and never feel any less tired

burnt gust
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Impossible, not even the power of the gods could do that

rigid grotto
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Legendary irl boon: you chose exactly when to fall asleep and when you will wake up: +50% sleep efficacy

tulip lava
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can i get a hypnos boon that stops me from having bizarre nightmares

livid cargo
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yes its called a dusa plushie ajfingerguns

ashen sphinx
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Supergiant... No Hades L00t on y'all's store? For shame... could we at least get some art assets like the symbol for the House of Hades & maybe the boons for vinyl window stickers?

idle oriole
olive jungle
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@ashen sphinx there are a few things on the Hades page on their official site!

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Digital only but

chilly stump
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Hey, thanks for the interest, smitty! No Hades merch/L00t yet, but I'm sure it won't be that way forever!

quaint wind
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why would sgg have merch for a currently incomplete game

rigid grotto
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Have you seen preorder packages

weary ice
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Hypnos is Thanatos's brother

quaint wind
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yeah but that's different

weary ice
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So far only major gods and goddesses of Greek mithology give boons in Hades

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Janus is a roman god

idle oriole
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Idea: replace all of poseidon’s voice lines that include the word ā€œnephewā€ with ā€œdudeā€

hexed smelt
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dionysus already exists though

idle oriole
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oh

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youre right

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however, i believe wine bro and surfer dude are different orders of bro-hood

topaz lake
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^

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poseidon is the dude that used to be a surfer when he was young but now he's old and uncool but he can't let go his youth

ashen sphinx
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If we could get a "House Symbol" from either Theseus's belt or Achilles's brooch, that'd be awesome @chilly stump - Just a humble request. dusa

topaz lake
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alot of stuff has the house symbol

chilly stump
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Duly noted! šŸ˜„

devout plinth
#

Does that make Daedalus the tech bro

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At above

brisk trail
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Does anyone think that in Adamant rail codex entry, the front of lower side look like a birds butt?

spice cliff
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(possible spoilers idk) What exactly unlocks the ||covered things in the bottom of the training area with Skelly||?

void vigil
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@spice cliff ||beating the game with certain Heat levels in the pact of punishment, which you can start unlocking after beating the game for the first time. The levels for unlocking those are 15 heat, 60 heat and 120 heat||

spice cliff
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Thanks!

uncut pewter
#

Quick Question if anyone is on - when swapping out a keepsake, do you lose any gained bonuses from it? For example, I currently have 16.5% Dodge with Lambert Plume. If I swap it for another Keepsake, do I lose the dodge?

vapid drift
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yes.

uncut pewter
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Thanks

winter river
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Anyone know if there's a mythological connection between Megara (Creons daughter/Hercules disney gal pal) and Megaera (the Erinyes/Fury we know and love).

olive jungle
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no connection I know of! just similar names

sullen nebula
#

isn't that dionysius thing

viral eagle
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Listen

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Hermes is really cute

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Thanks for coming to my TED talk

rigid grotto
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Wow that was

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FAST

silent flume
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it fits

regal pagoda
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@winter river I mean, we also have Chronos and Chronus, so.....similiar names can happen I guess.

winter river
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True, I was just curious if anyone was aware of a connection.

regal pagoda
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If there is one I am not aware of it.

elder beacon
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is there a keepsake that makes zag's next boon a hammer? it's one of my favorite boons cuz I don't like charging my bow and it has some really fun interactions with other boons

hexed smelt
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there is not

elder beacon
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dangit

regal pagoda
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@elder beacon It isn't really needed though. The game tries to force a hammer into your run between Tartarus and Asphodel and always gives you a second one in the earlier chambers of Elysium.

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(Which can actually end up being troublesome if you don't care about hammers for whatever reason)

dull trench
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hi, I seem to not be able to post in #hades-feedback . I seem to have encountered an inconsistency between the Hades - Wiki and the actual game, and I was looking for clarification.

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What happens when you get a Pommegranate through erberus? The wiki stated that it would also upgrade the rarity of the boon? but during on of my runs, it didn't upgrade my boon from epic to legendary?

olive jungle
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@dull trench "legendary" isn't a rarity level - legendary boons are special boons that build off of or add to earlier boons you received from the same god. They have prerequisites to acquire, which you can check on the wiki.
There is a rarity level above epic, which is "heroic", but you can only get a boon of this rarity by exchanging an epic-level boon for a boon of the same type given by a different god.
Additionally, Poms from Erebus no longer change the rarity of a boon - this was patched out as part of the High Speed Update on 6/11. The wiki may not have been updated to reflect that change yet.

dull trench
#

Amazing answer! thank you very much šŸ˜„

valid badger
#

hello hello, buying it now, how long would you say you could play it in its current state?

brisk trail
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I'm about 250 escape attempts in.

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This is going to be a very long-lived game.

valid badger
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is there a harder mode?

brisk trail
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There is an option to selectively increase difficulty.

vapid drift
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^

brisk trail
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Enemies hit harder, items cost more, etc.

valid badger
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Dope.

winter river
#

Worth note you have to unlock what are basically skill points in increasing the difficulty. It's very similar to the previous supergiant games in that regard. You also get some bonuses for higher difficulty runs.

unkempt shore
#

Hey, I'm quite new to the games made by Supergiant. Do they usually add content post final release? Like after Hades reaches final release, is that it? Do they just move on after or will they keep on adding stuff?

flat vapor
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the last three games have had no post-release content (outside of additional soundtrack albums)

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there's a high chance this game will be the same, but since this game is the first early access game for SGG, who knows!

unkempt shore
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Hope they'll add more. Got the game yesterday and took me under a day to beat it. Read through the roadmap that they plan to add a form of endgame later on which I hope will add more replayability because the increase difficulty skull thingies are cool and all but they're not extending the replay value by that much.

hexed smelt
#

i mean, the game only has three out of four planned areas right now

strong heron
#

i mean, wasn't versus mode for pyre a post release patch?

alpine stratus
#

nop

valid badger
#

Just bought it.

valid badger
#

where's the hard mode?

vale kite
#

might wanna finish a regular run before thinking about hard mode haha

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(you unlock a way to make your runs harder by ||clearing asphodel|| )

brisk trail
#

i think you should have your fun with regular runs first!

valid badger
#

Just wondering

valid badger
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.....is megs voice, meg from supernatural.....?

alpine stratus
#

nope!

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meg is played by avalon penrose

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who has, like, the coolest name ever

valid badger
#

legit a DnD name

tulip lava
#

avalon penrose is a wizard name

vapid drift
#

extremely.

neat musk
vapid drift
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no heat on looks like a bug

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it should be Freak Accident

alpine stratus
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hades: i know u aremt using heat, but im your father and i say use heat >:0

flat vapor
#

ye i've had that happen to me before

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issa bug

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RIP duo boon though

vapid drift
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can you use the keyboard to navigate to it?

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because I know Space confirms boon choices

topaz lake
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it looks like you're able to select it tho

flat vapor
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nah, i had it before and i couldn't select it

valid badger
#

I DID IT

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ONLY TOOK ME 3 TIMES

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You said being the area unlocks a way to make it harder, did i miss it somehow?

flat vapor
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i'm not sure of how it may work now, but it unlocked when i went back to the house of hades i think

granite pecan
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the desk beside the mirror can be unlocked to give you options making the game harder

valid badger
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i finished the area, thought that unlocked it. :c

flat vapor
#

did you die after you beat it

brisk trail
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are you sure it’s || asphodel||?

valid badger
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wasn't that the second or third area?

brisk trail
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||2nd||

flat vapor
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the ||second area||

valid badger
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yeah, i got all the way to the third. Lol

granite pecan
#

it will appear after you get back from clearing at least the second area. then you need to spend a key to unlock it

blissful gorge
#

Had the Shield with a 202 damage Doom bonus. That was great

humble pulsar
#

nice!

lusty mirage
#

Just got my first win myself, rail with lighting on special and triple gernades

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even managed to do it with 25 heat

ancient spear
#

a little question, does someone know how to make the game work again when it's totally frozen ? or should I just end it and play again the entire run ( wich will be different of course )

fresh orchidBOT
#

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

hexed smelt
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if it's completely locked up you'd probably have to force-quit the game and load it back up again

ancient spear
#

ok ! well ... guess I will have to start again a run ( is there an "in between" stage save ? or floor save ? last time it happened I had to start all over the run )

hexed smelt
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it depends on when it crashed and whether the game feels like being nice. worst-case scenario, it'll drop you back at the house courtyard as though you hadn't gone on the run; if you're lucky, it'll go back to the last autosave while on the run

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the game autosaves when you enter and when you complete each room of a run

ancient spear
#

Hope it will set me before Hydra when it froze, I had a cool crit run, first time I was going that way. I cross fingers !

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well ... house of hades. Acted like a cold shower, will start the game again tomorrow ( too much salt for this non saving I don't know why ^^ )

unkempt sleet
#

Quick question, last time it crashed on me and reset my run the seed remained the same. Is it true in general?

hexed smelt
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yup, if you reset a run then the seed is the same - it only changes when you die, iirc

unkempt sleet
#

Neat, so next time I crash I just need to remember everything I chose up until that point and the run will be the same. In theory.

torn perch
#

Why can't i write something on #feedback discussion ?

olive jungle
#

Check the pinned post

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In that channel, I mean

torn perch
#

i did, and i see nothing that will prevent me from posting feedback

hexed smelt
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read it again, then!

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not that one

torn perch
#

it says something about removing feedback, but there's nothing about writing feedback

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oups ok

alpine stratus
#

there is a second post!

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.....its ok i just went back there to look and had a moment of OH NO DID WE TAKE THAT BIT DOWN???

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it is there tho!!

hexed smelt
#

i keep meaning to ask amir if it would make more sense to redo the pins in there to keep the Rules as the first post you see when you open the pins

torn perch
#

alright, i need to post on hades-gameplay... that was really easy to say

hexed smelt
#

........no, that's still the wrong channel.

torn perch
#

this is not easy then

hexed smelt
#

oh for

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hang on.

torn perch
#

ok, i did it

#

thx for not helping ;o)

alpine stratus
#

šŸ‘

hexed smelt
#

i sent you a screencap of the rules with the rule you needed to read highlighted in bright orange

torn perch
#

thx

lofty stirrup
#

Well hello there supergiants!

vestal lodge
#

The pins have been re-pinned!

flat vapor
#

woo!

topaz lake
#

im in a trial of athena and dionysus

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which is the least bad to fight

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i feel like athena

brisk trail
#

Dionysus won't hit you without warning.

topaz lake
#

i chose athena

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dionysus was easy

#

tbh

brisk trail
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^

topaz lake
#

25 heat

#

do i go hard ares

brisk trail
#

Well done.

topaz lake
#

or sho

brisk trail
#

What's your weapon?

topaz lake
#

shop

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rail

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with heavy slug

brisk trail
#

Ah, there you go.

topaz lake
#

im tempted to go ares

brisk trail
#

I've almost lost melee runs to Dionysus and Ares.

topaz lake
#

for cast

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but im scared

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i went ares

brisk trail
#

You already got a few prereqs?

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Alright, I respect it.

topaz lake
#

it's

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the megagorgon

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i want to die

brisk trail
#

But you have Heavy Slug.

#

You don't have a Stabbing Boon, do you?

topaz lake
#

oh my god

#

i got hit once

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53 damage

#

jesus christ

brisk trail
#

Oh.

#

Well, good luck.

topaz lake
#

ok

#

i took her down

#

the womp is left

#

i can do this

#

ok

#

i did it

brisk trail
#

Well done.

topaz lake
#

ok

brisk trail
#

Triple damage, eh?

topaz lake
#

epic curse of pain

#

not bad

#

it only goes up to 150%

#

ok boat room

#

should be easy

#

damn

#

got hit 3 times

#

i did it

#

hydra succ

#

im screwed

brisk trail
#

Is that a health Trove?

valid badger
#

Do y'all plan to add more weapons to hades?

brisk trail
#

One more is coming.

valid badger
#

that's it?

brisk trail
#

So far.

topaz lake
#

i did

#

another chamber

#

with 6 hp

#

wow

#

i have 22.5 on butterfly

brisk trail
#

I was able to build a 50% Butterfly into Elysium. It doesn't happen on melee builds.

topaz lake
#

i got the big p

brisk trail
#

Poseidon?

topaz lake
#

should i go hydralite gold or kiss of styx

brisk trail
#

Oh, The Guy.

#

Hydralite.

topaz lake
#

spoiler btw

brisk trail
#

I don't know how to wall that off.

#

Kiss of Styx is like, one extra hit against A and T.

topaz lake
#

it's them next room

#

they're on

#

39 right?

#

asterius

#

hurt

brisk trail
#

Yeah.

brisk trail
#

Just no-hit Alecto with a really OP Tempest Flourish and Explosive Skewer. Started at 192% at spawn.

topaz lake
#

that's spear right*?

brisk trail
#

Yup.

topaz lake
#

i won with heroic aphro flourish and explosive skewer

brisk trail
#

I like that they gave Aphrodite and Poseidon big damage ups, but I kinda wish they'd just fix Poseidon.

#

I feel like bursts of damage on knockback and triggering knockback-triggered effects against enemies normally immune (bosses) is enough.

#

Especially with Sea Storm and Second Wave.

topaz lake
#

what are those

brisk trail
#

Just... Two lightning bolts, when they would normally be triggered by KB and then Second Wave.

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Poseidon Legendary and Poseidon/Zeus Duo.

#

Second Wave triggers a second knockback about a second after the initial push, and Sea Storm strikes the target with a bolt of lightning upon knockback.

topaz lake
#

wait poseidon only has like 5 boons

#

compared to artemis which has like 11

brisk trail
#

So you hit something with a Tempest Strike sword attack, and they get hit with lightning once and then again when they get pushed back a second time, plus Rupture damage.

#

He's got enough.

vapid drift
#

sea storm not working on bosses really sucks

brisk trail
#

^^^^^

topaz lake
#

zeus > poseidon

#

tbh

brisk trail
#

I would do terrible terrible things for that to work upon "knockback" and to be unblockable. Full-tilt Zeus and Poseidon would be crazy powerful.

#

Especially if you somehow swing Splitting Bolt.

#

Aaand 71% Slippery Flourish.

topaz lake
#

wait

#

do

#

splitting bolt and double strike stack

#

like can you can 3 thunders off a thunder dash

hexed smelt
#

yes

topaz lake
#

ooo

#

nice

topaz lake
#

zeus is gonna kill me irl

#

i swear

flat vapor
#

maybe spoilers

light thistle
#

moved 😃

#

wasn't sure

lofty stirrup
#

@topaz lake ares>all of that

#

Or Dionis

coral yoke
#

man how do people do 50+ heat? i barely beat theseus with no heat

manic iris
#

Hi! Hades is great! I think it'll be the best game yet!

red flame
#

Are there any hades emojis available or has someone done any fanart on it? Want to add a hades emoji for my discord server for people who play it

olive jungle
#

There are some! @alpine stratus has made a few i know

#

they'll check the ping when they wake up, if they say it's ok you might be able to use theirs!

#

there are also image files on the wiki that you could use to make custom emoji, like ambrosia

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or bouldy

void vigil
#

there’s also residentzag or dusaHeart but those were made by Joanne and I don’t wanna ping her bc she’s on do not disturb D:

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idk if they’re ok to use or if u should ask her thinkingthonk

olive jungle
#

alma, what is that thinking emoji

#

i need it immediately

void vigil
#

man I don’t know what server it’s from

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feel free to lift it for a personal server tho lol

#

oh it’s from the thumper server

alpine stratus
#

@red flame hi! I have a bunch of hades emoji yeah
tisi chaosuwu hypnos achillesgaythink zagrowl zagyikes zaglaugh all up for grabs! if theres a way to let ppl kno i did the art/edit in ur servers readme or whatever id appreciate it v much
and if ur looking for a specif character art u can always commission me for som ;> ajfingerguns

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oh i also hav zagugh zagHEWWO

void vigil
#

wait where’s pensive zag

olive jungle
void vigil
#

or was it pensive than

olive jungle
#

there is also a thanpensive

alpine stratus
#

i...made that one for personal use specifically amd would prefer u dont use it sorry

olive jungle
#

valid

alpine stratus
#

pensivezag i mean

void vigil
#

ah sorry! was just wondering

alpine stratus
#

ind ppl are cool just not as a server emote pls!

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thanger thannypensive heres my thans tho yeah!

void vigil
#

NDFNKDBR THE FIRST ONE

rigid grotto
#

New hades song is out

rigid grotto
#

It’s dusa

onyx sigil
#

(Which song?)

chilly stump
alpine stratus
#

sandra.....................TWO!

brisk trail
#

Oh, this is so creepy and so good.

topaz lake
#

@chilly stump could you add it to the ost playlist on spotify?

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oh i don't think it's yours

#

sorry

chilly stump
topaz lake
#

thanks

brisk trail
#

I love The Bloodless.

#

Will we be getting the acoustic and rock versions separated? Because hoooly schnikes the hard version of Scourge of the Furies goes hard.

acoustic plaza
#

i can't post on the feedback forum and i just wanted to say

#

i love this game and deflecting orbs back onto enemies should damage them

olive jungle
#

If you want to post in feedback, check the pinned posts there

#

Also i think deflected orbs do damage enemies?

#

If you're talking about like witch orbs

final atlas
#

Athena Deflects should be doing damage

#

@acoustic plaza You need to get the Early Access role from the Proxy Bot

flat vapor
#

deflected attacks definitely do damage

valid badger
#

using wrath, do you just not get to often?

topaz lake
#

to do what often

flat vapor
#

assuming you don't get hit very often in tartarus, you should very rarely activate it in tartarus, not even against the boss

#

by elysium though, you should be reliably getting it at least once per room

#

maybe more

valid badger
#

really

flat vapor
#

unless you've got one of the boons that increases wrath gain, but they recently nerfed those

#

and ofc getting hit with high heat on will speed up the process a lot

misty badge
#

does anyone know if theres already feedback on character customization?

#

i see the chest of clothes in zagrius's room and cant help but hope we can give him new outfits

quaint wind
#

god Please let zag have costumes

devout plinth
#

BIG hat

wooden quartz
#

how do you

#

make a crater in lava

tulip lava
#

crunch

teal dagger
#

Not really a feedback, because it's more of an anticipation

#

But I'm afraid the game, especially on 60+ heat, is going to be way too difficult when the fourth biome is implemented

#

It really feels like the Asterius/Theseurs fight is the endpoint of the run, I think there would only be like 1/10th of my heated wins (not even talking about runs) where I could keep going (in terms of HP left or death defiances left) more than 2/3 rooms in a biome that could be harder than Elysium

#

Not even talking about fighting another boss

#

Do you guys have any opinion/experience on how the game will adapt to the fourth biome?

sterile peak
#

if it stays at the same difficulty as it is now, I think it'll be alright

#

I don't want the game to be too easy, especially at what should be the hardest point

flint gust
#

^^

#

Actually, I'd argue for making Asphodel harder

#

Since at some point its just mechanical and boring

#

You cant stop for a second because of the wave bois

#

And you pretty much cant hit any of the bomb bois since they just jump away immediately

#

So its an exercise of being patient enough to eliminate the enemies in order and not take damage in the meanwhile

lusty mirage
#

honestly if the difficulty keeps ramping that sounds awesome, though i think that would need new interesting ways of increasing your power beyond number increases. dont know how they would do that or anything

sterile peak
#

exactly
this is a roguelike, roguelikes are not meant to be easy

red coral
#

It’s a roguelite aha, the use of the mirror and permanent upgrades make it so. Roguelites have a lower difficulty ceiling in general compared to roguelikes.

lusty mirage
#

thats really splitting hairs, i think there should be an incentive to go mirrorless. I made it to the hydra without the mirror and it was one of my most favorite runs

red coral
#

||Meg has dialogue regarding mirrorless runs,|| and running with high heat to gain the reward bonus for low darkness encourages the player to go that route as well.

#

On a personal level I just mainly like the difficulty as it is though

hexed smelt
#

not to "well, actually" this, but i'm going to "well, actually" this

#

||meg's dialogue about the mirror does not depend on you having low darkness, it's just two conversations that trigger after you've collected a certain amount||

lusty mirage
#

i enjoy the double reward rooms for high heat run, can really boost a run

#

anyone know if rooms like chaos or the challenge rooms count towards progression in the floors

red coral
#

Chaos rooms no, but challenge rooms definitely used to

lusty mirage
#

ok cool

solar coral
#

next update when?

flat vapor
#

you can check in the bottom right corner in the game's main menu!

shadow trellis
#

seeking blades + vicious cycle is a little broken. I mean it was crazy fun killing Thesus in 10 seconds. But I don't think it is intended.

brisk trail
#

Eh, having to set up a Legendary and a Duo isn't nothing.

shadow trellis
#

true it was pure luck and I didn't get it until 2 rooms before Theseus and the Bull

steel pebble
#

i currently have not the most useful, but one of the most fun combinations yet :')

#

Twin shot + tempest strike just makes enemies fly accross the whole room from the arrows

regal pagoda
#

@shadow trellis How did you kill him in 10 seconds?

#

The invincibility keeps me from doing that

#

Like, he reaches 50%, becomes invincible, walks a couple steps, that alone takes precious seconds right there.

valid badger
#

is the bow just terrible in compariosn?

olive jungle
#

I quite like the bow, personally; it's a matter of taste i think

brisk trail
#

Bow's got lower DPS than most other weapons, but you should be able to attack from afar enough that you can safely kite, which plays into the bow's innate piercing.

#

Personally, I think it and the spear are still underpowered. Vicious Skewer really hurts DPS against single targets if you're a Special build, which is normally one of the spear's crowd-clearing tools.

#

Massive Spin and Quick Spin together with any half-decent Attack Boon will do work, but that's relying on two Hammers, so you're getting that at-earliest in Elysium.

light thistle
#

I thought I had read somewhere there was a reward or something for heat runs, with the first threshold being 15, and I just got that for the first time. Is it faulty info or what's the change?

olive jungle
#

Check the weapon room

#

You should have had a conversation with Skelly about the rewards, I think

light thistle
#

I did, he was just asking me to hit him 😦

olive jungle
#

There may be prerequisites to the rewards showing up - beating the current boss a certain number of times for example?

light thistle
#

might have to try it a few times. Exagryph + Chain lightning isn't too hard to set up and worked okay

olive jungle
#

Not with heat on, just in general

#

How many times have you cleared the game?

light thistle
#

I think that was my 6th clear

#

I just want Skelly in all his glory šŸ˜›

olive jungle
#

Might need more than that, though I can't check right now...

light thistle
#

Wiki is saying 15/16/120

#

*60

olive jungle
#

Wait wait, so do you have the rewards in the weapon room, or no?

light thistle
#

I didn't see any. I'll relaunch tomorrow and check again I suppose

#

but Skelly didn't mention it

olive jungle
#

I think there may be a "you must have completed this many runs before you'll have the option to get the rewards at all" prerequisite

#

Is what I meant

#

But I can't go in the game and check right now because I'm at work and my laptop is dead, lol

light thistle
#

Gotcha. Could be. I'm still getting the hang of it

olive jungle
#

Yeah. I'll dig a bit later and get back to you, unless Sparrow beats me to it

olive jungle
#

@light thistle Looks like you only have to have cleared the game once + unlocked the pact in order to see the statues so...idk what the issue is

void vigil
#

f10?

digital yacht
#

Hey kids, just seen this on Epic and really love the art and style. How much game is there at the moment as I believe this is their EA release?

brisk trail
#

close to ¾ of the game i believe

digital yacht
#

Oh OK that's fairly decent content wise.

#

Have you played it?

brisk trail
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yes..! i could be wrong though, what i’m certain of, is that it’s over halfway through rn

olive jungle
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It's hard to say what percent "done" it is, they have a roadmap for this year that they're obviously making progress on so you can always compare to that I suppose...but if nothing else, there's a good 10-15 hours of content, being modest. There's a lot of replayability, as you might expect, so even once you burn through story stuff it's still fun

onyx sigil
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To be fair if you’re bad at the game like me you can confidently get double that time :D

digital yacht
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Haha cool - yeah I do anticipate having some sort of artificial extension due to being bad. :p

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I'm finding the current Steam sale a little lacklustre, my entire Wish List other than 3 titles is on Coming Soon and out of those 3, 2 are pre-orders. :/

light thistle
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The game's length is really in replaying and likely will still be the same after release. But we've got 3 out of 4 game areas, all weapons but 1, all gods but 1, and all bosses but 1 right now - pending any extras they might add.

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so its definitely close to finished, and its already pretty polished

fallen violet
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I wonder what kind of weapon the last one is šŸ¤”

hexed smelt
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i want it to be magic-based to contrast the Gunā„¢

red coral
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I want it to be cerb

hexed smelt
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no i will never shut up about wanting the magic weapon

red coral
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Riding ur doggo into battle tho

elfin sparrow
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I almost think cerb could be the last boss

quaint wind
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i feel like that's a little too dark tbh

onyx sigil
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So far all my theories are either stupid or heartbreaking

red coral
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Hoping for ||double fury fight|| for final boss tbh

alpine stratus
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i think a hades boss fight would break my heart most of all tbh

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but like in a cathartic way i hope

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but to really round off the like....cyclical stuggle HHHHHHHH

vale kite
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not that id be against it but like

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the final boss fight being against hades would be kind of anticlimatic like

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without the plot elements and stuff

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instead youd be like ooOOO imma fight the bIg BaDdIe

flat vapor
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but then we'd have to deal with hades' sarcastic comments every time he beats us to the ground

rough ivy
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true

light thistle
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For what its worth I managed to get my statue after a second 15 heat run win (in a row no less, go me). Think the real issue is the lack of visual cue. I kept clicking around the covered statues until Skelly gave the speech about impressing someone etc. Suppose need to put that in feedback.

acoustic plaza
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I still don't know how to or am able to post in the feedback channel so i'll do it here again. I think the bow is really bad and clumsy. This could be fixed by having you do melee damage at the start of animation to stun like you would with melee

sterile peak
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pins

acoustic plaza
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also this game would sell like fire if it was on theSwitch

flat vapor
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obligatory: have you tried the dash attack

vital belfry
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Easier to build for one platform before polishing and optimizing for a bunch. Also, dashing makes your bow charge faster. Play with Artemis' dash attack boon on bow. Find the rhythm.

acoustic plaza
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@sterile peak thank you!

tardy grove
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So I'm a little tired of playing ||with the pact of punishment active|| and I'm looking to just mess around

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What are some of your favorite sets?

light thistle
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Huh. Never knew there was a working dash attack for now, yet.

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As a newbie, what's worked for me (outside of hunting blades, which is difficult to get but shreds)... Rail with Zeus attack+cast, +jolted+double lightning.

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Flurry fire for hammer.

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And I haven't tried it but a dionysus attack with aphrodite special and their duo boon on rail could also be pretty nuts. 8 or more stacks of poison...

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I actually used that with dionysus wrath on my last run, using shield.

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(with poseidon attack for ridiculously fun and powerful room clearing knock back. Was pretty hilarious in Elysium)

tardy grove
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The most stupid run for me; because I know where you're coming from; was with the rail

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I had the hammer for the cone shot (5 shots at once) with Dionysus's poison
ANOTHER hammer for 3 specials w/ Artemis's crit
My wrath was Ares AND I had his legendary boon

flat vapor
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heavy slug artemis, become the sniper you always wanted to be

light thistle
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Yeah, heavy slug Artemis and triple bomb Artemis are how I got my first hydra kill. And cleared Elysium up to theseus with it

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Triple bomb Artemis in general is pretty silly.

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Such fun. But not a guaranteed kill for me yet.

tardy grove
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The thing about A&T is that you need to RUN

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Most of the run you're playing aggressively, but for them you have to be more defensive, otherwise you're just gonna die

vapid drift
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that's more true for heat runs imo

flat vapor
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^

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i've definitely out-offensed A&T to death before

vapid drift
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because I usually just rush them down with sword - even if my build is bad they have trouble hurting you if you're spamming dash

light thistle
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Yeah am learning that about them, no matter how much offense, I can't pull it off. Ironically my first kill on them was with sword, which I almost never use. Forget the load out.

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I forgot best part of my Shield with poseidon attack... I also had dashing wallop. Dash attack had people flying in all directions.

flat vapor
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i prefer to out-offense things, which is why artemis is my favorite god

light thistle
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... Or right into the wall for massive damage.

flat vapor
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the damage she can build up melts bosses

light thistle
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Artemis has been mine too at first, but now I'm drifting to Zeus

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True. It's just hard on theseus fight to get hit with his near perma blocj

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I generally get him down with poison, shatter shot from behind, or blades.

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But then again I have less tjan 10 kills so far so I'm not a good stat. Lots of close but no cigar with artemis

flat vapor
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athena dash

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the holy grail of dashes

light thistle
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Amen

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Athena dash + greater reflexes = what projectile?

gray jacinth
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I remember playing transister like in 2015 and being a fan of God of War, I am really interested in the greek mythos

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I think I will have the early access

void nova
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Where should I report bugs?

hexed smelt
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press f10 while ingame!

void nova
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thanks 😃

hexed smelt
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it sends a screenshot and your save to supergiant so they can try to reproduce the bug and you can also type in a description

void nova
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hopefully that works out cuz the problem i'm reporting is my entire computer freezing in the chamber i'm currently in lol

fresh orchidBOT
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Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

hexed smelt
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proxy please

red coral
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no I think Proxy is close enough this time

hexed smelt
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yeah no i was about to say

red coral
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"they're a little off but they got the spirit"

hexed smelt
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other stuff in tech fixes may also be useful

void nova
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thanks, i managed to submit the bug 😃

tropic panther
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how many days left for the next patch?

olive jungle
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A little over a month

tropic panther
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thanks

shell gale
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is there anywhere to see your fastest runs etc without beating Theseus?

vapid drift
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no.

shell gale
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a pity, but oh well. Thanks!

loud ice
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i just got through my first clear!!! I'm so excited

red coral
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Congratulations! What was your build?

brisk trail
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Anyone know what is the range of distant memory?

vast atlas
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What's the fastest clear time for this update?

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is there a way to know

red coral
brisk trail
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Man, Nova Strike builds are crazy.

arctic notch
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who thinks a Daedalus labyrinth would be cool addition kind of like chaos gate, but symbol could be hammer can be you get special weapon after defeating the boss . The boss could be Daedalus using clunky machine or something that u slowly have to destroy pieces off of and as u take pieces off he get faster but loses attacks as it goes on and instead of killing he help on next runs like secret random passage way thro like skip 1 or 2 rooms but room u come back to is slightly beefed up cause hades angry boi or am i just a fan boi over Daedalus ?

brisk trail
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id rather have something to add 1-5 rooms so i can get more upgrades before boss battle lol

regal pagoda
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@red coral Is that bug assisted?

red coral
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Honestly don’t know? From what I know of our community my guess is no

timid ferry
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completed run with adamant rail!! feels so good

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^with 2 dd's to spare 😃

red coral
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Nice!

vale kite
devout plinth
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bvdgg I don’t mind zag

timid ferry
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zag is actually so cool

foggy kiln
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Random Question: are Poms more effective on Common Boons vs Rares/Epics?

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Was doing a low-darkness run for the first time since Murder/Death/Kill and my Poms seemed NUTS.

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Whereas usually they're... fine.

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But I didn't have my increased chance of Rares/Epics...because... low Darkness.

void nova
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i'm having probably my best run so far, if i actually manage to beat theseus and the minotaur this time will that go away or will i be able to somehow continue on this run when the next biome is released?

radiant tangle
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If you get an end screen, you won't keep your current build into the next biome update. If you hold yourself from finishing, I honestly have no idea what will happen

void nova
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hmmmmm

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eh i might as well just go for it surely i can get a good build again lol, i'm just stoked about this one

void nova
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well damn.... i failed lol

radiant tangle
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šŸ‡« šŸ˜”

void nova
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thank you, lol

void vigil
void nova
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i think where i went wrong was accepting an upgrade that made my attacks not knock back foes, i think i was underestimating how much i was relying on that 🤷

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Theseus had THIS MUCH šŸ‘Œ health left

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still feelin' good about it lol

brisk trail
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Figuring out Theseus is one of the most satisfying things I've done in a game in YEARS.

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It's a good feeling.

void nova
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nice

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i'll look forward to that

hollow heron
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first run in like 4 months i managed to clear with 440 darkness because rank 5 doom on bow special is sorta broke

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174 damage

meager sigil
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ther is any oficfial art on the place that Chaos hang out? i would looove to have that place for a wallpaper

chilly hare
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I peronsally want a dusa plush

drifting pulsar
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does anybody know the platforms this will be released on?

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because if it's going to be on the switch

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i might just wait till then

olive jungle
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No word on it yet

umbral obsidian
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Probably more PC platform after release (Steam, maybe Gog), but for now only Epic Games in Early Acces state if I'm right

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And if I'm right, SSG do ports for other platforms for the games, so porting abillities are limited

eternal vault
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Hey, would anyone with a more or less completed game be willing to send me their save? Mine got corrupted a couple of weeks ago and at this point it doesn't seem like I'm ever going to get it back :(

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I hope that's an alright thing to ask for! I'm not sure where else to go

EDIT: I got one, thanks!

shadow trellis
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Anyone know how to get Athena's legendary? I don't seem to be getting it offered. Is brilliant riposte no longer the prerequisite?

vapid drift
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it might just be not showing up for you since it's still listed as needing brilliant on the wiki

chilly hare
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bastion and stuff are on switch so I assume this will make it

tulip lava
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goddammit i have the exalted stuck in my head thanks

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vrooooo, da vrooooo, da vroooooo da doo doo

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dundundundundundun dundundundun, dundundundun, dundundundun

void nova
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Finally beat Theseus!

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Aphrodite is my new fav god lol

gilded hawk
hexed smelt
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no

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if you have a bug to report, please press f10 while ingame (and ideally while the bug in question is happening, where possible)

summer night
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is it just me, or is the bow special slower to complete with the +100% arrows?

brisk trail
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It looks slower, but hold down a movement key (or stick) and I'm pretty sure you can move at the same time. I could be wrong, but I think it's just visual.

woeful lotus
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even if its slightly slower its not by much atleast

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tho if its slower at all it should say so when the perk is presented

summer night
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it feels like half a second, or somewhere around there, though i've never timed it

teal dagger
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@vapid drift Do you know if anyone made a feedback of Athena's legendary being absent?

void vigil
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that would be a bug report, with f10 in-game

plain cairn
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what you guys think the last weapon gonna be?

drifting trout
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Im hoping its a hammer

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Or a heavy polearm

void vigil
teal dagger
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Hope it's going to be ranged

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Or at least will come with big tweaks on the bow

summer night
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considering how they're visually separated, i'd guess some form of ranged weapon

hexed smelt
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i want........ magic............

devout plinth
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BIG STAFF

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big knotted wooden staff...

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Something that’s primarily aoe would be cool, or a slower projectile

hexed smelt
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wanna burn stuff

red coral
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consider: wax wings

untold cave
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Boomerang

alpine stratus
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[gets out of underworld] hey whats that big yellow thing in the sky [melts and falls back in]

red coral
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There is no escape

thin beacon
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consider: bare hands

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could pick up the pillar and whack

red coral
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You just pick up rocks and throw them for your special

thin beacon
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ksdfjklasjs

devout plinth
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use Daedalus hammer on my fingers and break them all

red coral
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One hammer for each hand

alpine stratus
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pick up the boon circle and toss it

devout plinth
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play pyre with the Zeus orb

sterile peak
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if you think about it, Remembrances are basically just archjustice hijacking your dreams

alpine stratus
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aj dream is just a rememberance that hasnt happened yet

devout plinth
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fades into remembrance, aj sitting there

šŸŠ: ZAGRRREUS

slowly fades out with him still shouting

alpine stratus
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JXJCJDJFJ

vital belfry
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"You just pick up rocks and throw them for your special"
Aren't those just your bloodstones, ha

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Hey father check this out.

  • Zag chucks a bloodstone -
    Not so useless now, am I Dad.
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Days later there's a new rule: No Throwing Stones in the House of Hades

alpine stratus
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KFJFKCJ

brisk trail
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Who would win
One ultimate caretaker of the dead
or
One sassy boi?

gilded hawk
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Are there other Duo boons conversations other than the Zeus/Poseidon one?

vale kite
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theres athena/artemis and ares/aphrodite

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and one more i'm definitely forgetting

gilded hawk
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Oh so they aren't all there

devout plinth
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Dio/zeus

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Dio/aphro

gilded hawk
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I thought they were bugged since I didn't get one for Artemis/Ares and Artemis/Zeus

vale kite
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they dont always happen

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also i know some duo combinations dont have convos

topaz lake
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or

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you pull a deku and break your fingers but also break theseus' smug face

hollow heron
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so uhh using aphro's wrath's animation to use my momentum to dodge right through a medusa shot is the sickest thing ever

fathom granite
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does Triple Shot split your total damage across the three shots?

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or each is at 100%dmg still?

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also in Sniper Shot, how far is ā€œdistantā€?

unkempt sleet
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Each shot of triple shot deals normal damage

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I'm not sure how distant is distant but I would wager about a spear length

fathom granite
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cool, so at pointblank its 300% dmg basically

unkempt sleet
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Yeah, extra fun with Poseidon

fathom granite
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hehe

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thanks for your help

unkempt sleet
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Np

autumn pagoda
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l thinking over "Boon Replacements". They often not worth it, even Heroic. What if make they additional 4th option to choose (only them)? Make replace reduces strength grow, so... if player really want boon of specific god - then sacrifices +1 boon to collection in run. Heroic usually = Rare+3 or Epic+2... meh.

rigid grotto
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put it in feed back

autumn pagoda
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its locked for me :c tianPressF tianCat

rigid grotto
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read the pinned message

fierce crescent
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okay i just started playing hades after havig bought it during that last sale and being too lazy to pick it up

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but holy HECK this gameplay is sleek

hollow heron
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yeah its really nice

fierce crescent
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it's even sleeker because i started playing it right out of a start of a transistor replay lmao

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turns out im not as good at games as i thought i as

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is the gameplay better with a controller? my wasd keys don't work so well

olive jungle
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KBM and controller each have their own benefits so its kind of personal preference, but a controller is technically recommended

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There are very high level players on each control scheme

fierce crescent
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hmm alrighty, i'll give it a try one of these days, see how i feel about it

olive jungle
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šŸ‘

hollow heron
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i personally prefer kbm simply because i have all the muscle memory for buffer stuff

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but dashes are less precise on kbm

void nova
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I prefer controller .... Uhh well I also haven't even tried kbm cuz I'm trying to protect my poor wrists lol but iirc switching from kbm to controller in Bastion improved the experience for me so 🤷

brisk trail
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RIP 19 win streak.

brisk trail
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Huh. Crit Tipsy Shot with Priviledged Status and a Chaos Boon broke 1200.

humble pulsar
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I prefer mkb because I'm a staunch advocate of the Adamant Rail and I refuse to be anything but monogamous :kappa:

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That's my girl right there :kappa:

frigid finch
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i have a blood filled vial as the perk or whatever and my next boon was hermes hmm

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and now its poseidon

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uh

rigid grotto
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First run in a while?

vital belfry
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Poseidon can override your God keepsake if he's offering you wrath for the first time. Hermes doesn't count as the 'next god you'll see', and has his own identity (just like a hammer). You can even find shops with both Hermes and another God Boon.

red coral
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Charon when I have 23 gold: Hermes, Aphrodite, Hammer in the store
Charon when I have 506 gold: would u like a uhhhhhh darknis

vapid drift
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"boons? I don't know what boons are here have a pom"

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*charon carefully nudges a boon behind his back*

red coral
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ā€œBlease, I just need something, anything to boost my damage outputā€
ā€œWould you like a CENTAUR HEART to go with your full health???ā€

frigid finch
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okay so does lambent plume's bonuses still work if I swap it out

hexed smelt
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no

frigid finch
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okay that wouldnt be very healthy if it did lol

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ty

mortal gale
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don't know if this is the best place to ask this but is there plans to port Hades to the switch like Transistor?

olive jungle
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Any porting decisions will be made after full release

copper shell
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What are some fun Sword builds?

quaint shuttle
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I wanna play Hades but I only have a Mac

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Big sad

radiant tangle
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Fun sword builds?

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I have something in mind

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And hear me out here: World Splitter

flat vapor
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empowering nova + flurry blades

remote ember
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World Splinter is awesome!!!

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Why would it be "technically" better to use a controller? Why is that the recommended route?? šŸ¤”

radiant tangle
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Easier on the wrists, I think

hexed smelt
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controller gives you a wider range of movement, also

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kbm limits you to WASD

radiant tangle
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And I'm glad you like World Splitter :D

frigid finch
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poseidon special sword build

brisk trail
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I prefer KBM because I really prefer aiming with a mouse (though Greg "Aim At Their Feet" Kasavin has... ideas), and I've never been in a situation where losing the other 352 degrees of motion hurt me that much. Indeed, being able to freely aim while still maintaining attacking posture (aiming at the Brimstone in the middle of a bunch of Thugs and Louts in Erebus) has always been helpful.

hexed smelt
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honestly i just find it way more comfortable to use a controller for these kinds of games

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i've used a controller for every other sgg game, so

brisk trail
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That's what it needs to boil down to.

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"Is it functional, and is it comfortable?"

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I've played everything on PC, though I'm tempted to go back to Pyre and trying it on a controller. That was the only one where I had doubts about KBM.

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Hey, Onyx, speaking of.

fiery pebble
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When is the next update again

brisk trail
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August 6th. You can also check by launching Hades, should be a button in the lower righthand corner.

fiery pebble
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Yeah Im not at my PC rn, thats why Im asking

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Thanks

brisk trail
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np

low phoenix
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I think Im gonna enter Discord Turbo just so I can use Hades' emotes everywhere
they look so goood!!

drifting pulsar
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any suggestions on beating the stupid snake to the ground?