also no mob spawns made it easier
#h1-discussion
dry folio
quasi cradle
How do you get the hang of tisiphone? I literally couldn't see any windup at all to her attacks so it was impossible to predict what she was gonna do
void vigil
im so excited to dive back in now ahhhh
rugged scaffold
the rage one is the same as meg, circle around and get your hits in but tisiphone dash dash bullet hell is kinda a lot
gritty depot
already can`t wait for next update!
void vigil
wait this isnt the spoilers chat
dry folio
well i didnt understand her at first but u can just dodge thru her dash and not get hit
wait are we not allowed to talk about this in here
void vigil
if were gonna discuss specifics of stuff new in the patch please move there !
dry folio
srysry 
rugged scaffold
sry
void vigil
its ok :>
dry folio
in unrelated news is there a way to check how long weve played the game?
smoky arrow
drats, wifi died
dry folio
id really like to but the epic store doesnt have that feature as far as i can see
smoky arrow
I'll have to wait until next weekend to get the update after all
but that doesn't stop me from being hyped
tepid wedge
didn't make it to final boss 😮
azure anvil
just dropping by once against to say HOW MUCH I LOVE HADES AND HOW THE SGG TEAM IS 151540% GENIUS
flint gust
Thanatos is a filthy kill stealer
hot vector
Still haven't met him yet
dry folio
i thought he was trying to kill me with aoe the first time so he stole like 7 mobs on the first time when i was dodging it 
noone told me he was on my side 😦
shadow mist
Murder Death Kill? There hasn't been one of those in years!
rancid crown
@ Supergiant are there plans to give Hypnos and Nyx their own models? It kind of looks like placeholders to me, but im not sure
slender linden
isnt Hypnos' model done?
real fox
Hey hello all, I have a quick question. After the Dionysus update I think, that npc that sings had a key unlock associated with them. I assumed it was something music related but didn't have the keys to unlock it at the time, so I left them and started a run. Now we're a month and an update further and I've never again seen the option to unlock whatever that was, because the character never again had that key unlock (of I think 8 keys) present when I encountered them in the main hall. Anyone know if this is a bug or maybe it's just a rare chance to appear?
prisma wind
I'm unsure what you're asking... There are no key-gated character interactions. The only 8-cost Key unlock in the Dio update was for the Adamant Rail in Skelly's room
vale drift
Hey @real fox there was a pretty rare bug where the 'locked' animation was appearing next to Orpheus -- my guess is that's what you're referring to here. Rest assured there wasn't anything to unlock there that you missed...!
wheat canopy
Does anyone know if the "robed figure" NPCs like Nyx and Sisyphus are placeholder art, or are they all supposed to have similar styles?
wheat canopy
Thanks. Figured I missed it.
prisma wind
Press F10 in-game
gentle cipher
I just want to say, whoever does all the little dialogue blurbs amongst the shades is my hero. It's my favorite "little touch" the game has.
sullen nebula
What is R3 and why do I have to press it to reload the gun?
prisma wind
R3 is pushing the right stick down
sullen nebula
ah I see
prisma wind
You can remap this in the controls, though
sullen nebula
I got used to rt
prisma wind
People seem to have mixed opinions about that
It threw me off at first, but I'm used to it now
solar coral
Man, the skeletwins really pimped their crib, and hired new buff bodyguards
slender linden
oh yeah they reset the controls
this should be in all caps above Skelly's head the first time you launch the game after this patch xD
cuz i technically read the patchnotes but by the time i was done with them i already almost forgot
solid canopy
i want a scythe weapon so i can match with thanatos 
spring cipher
just make it actually thanny's scythe
then hell ask how your both holding it at the same time
slender linden
you replaced me with my own scythe? you monster!
void vigil
ancient elk
Tyty
neat musk
Is it a known bug, or an intended feature, that the first time I did a run this patch, it ignored my Zeus ring, and offered me no-option Poseidon?
ancient elk
Intended, just so they could give you the rundown on wrath I think
prisma wind
Poseidon's Wrath is pretty good
solid canopy
it's not bad for your first wrath
vast oar
Has anyone ran into Thanatos yet?
amber garden
I have
prisma wind
Yup
vernal dove
Guys, which channel should I use to show a bug I just found? Anyone knows?
gleaming crane
Poseidon wrath is fun.
amber garden
His trinket is interesting
prisma wind
@vernal dove Use F10 in-game
vernal dove
@prisma wind Thanks
solid canopy
thanatos ❤ ❤ ❤
he helps you clear a room and if you kill more guys than him he gives you a reward
amber garden
Yeah I didn't succeed
vast oar
Fancy can't wait to trigger him
solid canopy
he gave me a centaur heart
amber garden
Nice
solid canopy
idk if that's all he gives or if he gives other rewards
amber garden
The new Athena boons that give death defy are legit
prisma wind
As far as I know, ||Thanatos only gives Centaur Hearts right now||
solid canopy
i see i see
i felt so bad bc he kept getting annoyed while were fighting ): im sorry thanatos i don't mean to keep hitting you accidentally 😭
amber garden
Lol
amber garden
all of our Supergiant games God boys are good boys
solid canopy
they should give zag a scythe weapon so he can match with than hehe
amber garden
His voice is weirdly familiar to me
solid canopy
he was hedwyn!
amber garden
Not ringing any bells for me
solid canopy
oh hedwyn from pyre i mean, but
solid canopy
well he was also asher kendrell in transistor
slender linden
ohno he was Hedwyn? ;w; thats the good boi voice
slender linden
Zagreus 'put your friends and a giant dog in your pockets and escape hell' challenge
gleaming crane
Rhonlore, you gotta play Pyre. Best SGG game.
harsh iris
Agreed. Right after the end I was deciding what of that beautiful game I would have as a tatoo, so big was the impact it had on me
sick tree
Just finished my first session post update, what are people's general thoughts?
signal spoke
dead and loving it!
olive jungle
my tastes haven't changed in 10 years and sgg knows me too well
i feel called out by this design
solid canopy
bruh same
olive jungle
i feel like a young weeb again
tulip lava
i thought i'd be prepared for any design jen could throw at us turns out i was wrong
olive jungle
hey everyone say goodbye to diothighsus
fiery pebble
Thanatos is great
tulip lava
godspeed thighs
fiery pebble
Gameplay wise, the new update is dope
The 2 new furies, while still a bit clunky and flawed, are a fun new addition
The Thanatos challenge rooms are entertaining
And the new boons are cool
alpine stratus
goodbye goodthighs
olive jungle
hello hello welcome to my caeve
solid canopy
goodbye thighs
olive jungle
WAIT I CHANGED THE WRONG THING GKJDFGFD
solid canopy
magic brian?
solid canopy
that's than's belt omg
olive jungle
THERE WE GO
fiery pebble
Still, of all parts of Thanatos's design to szoom in, why the belt
Why not the heart in the scythe
olive jungle
it's
tulip lava
mandatory underworld uniform
olive jungle
it's....skull,
tulip lava
must have skull belt
alpine stratus
skulls are cool
fiery pebble
I still think it looks like a Dusa skull
olive jungle
u can change ur icon to his scythe heart if you feel like i'm neglecting it
an eye is also kinda close to what my chaos icon was gkjfgf
i've never had a skull before !
tulip lava
underworld dress code: minimum three skulls
exceptions are made for those without the capability to wear skulls and skull accessories
prisma wind
As an alternative, simply having three skulls will suffice 
tulip lava
okay but imagine dusa with tiny skull snakelets (snake bracelets)
sick tree
Anyone else think Thánatos looks a smidge foppish and dopey? 😅
Not a big deal, he seems cool, just not as intimidating as I had expected
tulip lava
the higher your rank the more skulls
prisma wind
Expectations different Than reality, Patrick-Sears? 
tulip lava
thanatos is afraid of demotion bc that means losing his skull accessories
sick tree
Hmm?
fiery pebble
I mean Than was just a pretty boy in myth
He also isnt supposed to be intimidating
His realm is the peaceful death
Violent death is the realm of another goddess
sick tree
Who isn't a pretty boy in Greek myth though? 😁
fiery pebble
Though that varies by myth
sick tree
(besides Hephaestus)
quaint prism
is it just me or is thanatos's description kind of not make grammatical sense
tulip lava
thanatos is so edge that it goes beyond lame and goes back into ironically cool again
sick tree
No accounting for taste I guess 😁
tulip lava
ah you're only an impressionable teen once.........
sick tree
... Implying that you're an impressionable teen or do you mean Thánatos?
He looks like an impressionable teen too
😂
alpine stratus
ypu can prob find ppl who take plushie commissions on etsy or deviantart!!
id assume its pricey bc of the materials and work but if you have cash to spare it sounds wonderful
hexed lynx
We should all get plushies of Dusa
alpine stratus
plush makers love them! 10,000 people all buy custom plushes, giving them amazing business!!
jagged badger
So when do we get the cosmetic DLC to put Zag in a tophat
modest river
quick question where can i find Thanatos in game, Ive done two runs now and havent seen him anywhere
wraith grove
He appears randomly in both tartarus and asphodel
he'll appear and will challenge you in clearing a room
whoever kills the most wins
If you win, then you get a free +25 hp
and get to speak to him
modest river
well i guess i was very unlucky to not encounter him
fiery pebble
He is a random challenge room
Id say odds of encountering him all the way through to the final boss is about 1 in 2 or so
modest river
well i finished 2 runs but didnt even see him
wraith grove
try a couple more times, after finding him the first time, took me two more runs to see him again
modest river
does he give you any special item
wraith grove
yup
modest river
from gifting of course
fiery pebble
Yeah
solid canopy
of course
fiery pebble
He has his own keepsake
wraith grove
want the screenshot?
fiery pebble
Its a decent one
solid canopy
whenever thanatos leaves i miss him already 😔
wraith grove
modest river
its the normal dmg right
fiery pebble
It increases all damage, if thats what you mean
modest river
no i mean how about the boons
does it apply to boons
cuz its kinda broken if it does
fiery pebble
As far as Im aware, it should, yes
It applies to everything
Eh
Its a pretty big drawback
solid canopy
all damage i think
wraith grove
yeah, i'm pretty sure the way it multiplies is, once the dmg is being done to the enemy, it adds the extra 1% afterward
fiery pebble
You have to have it equipped from the start, so you dont get to choose your starting god boon
And even at max its only a little ahead of skull earring
modest river
but for example ares's atk can increase by a lot with that bonus
modest river
normally every lvl gives it 12 extra dmg but 1% every room can stacks up and increase another lvl
fiery pebble
Sure, but so would all other boons
Like, sure, you could do 40% more damage on Aress 40 damage
Or you could do 40% more damage on Athenas 100 damage
modest river
well not a fan of zeus or aphro atk
modest river
yeah but the scaling wont be as high as ares or even dion
fiery pebble
I mean % is always equal
The damage you get from Zeus is considerably higher than that from Ares
modest river
yeah but the staring dmg of scaling are way different
fiery pebble
On the weapons you use Zeus on, anyway
modest river
well im more on bow so his atk is pretty low
jagged badger
Does the damage reset if you get hit or does it just stack continuously as you clear rooms?
fiery pebble
It stacks continously
jagged badger
Neat
fiery pebble
You just dont get a buff from that exact room
Max is 50% at Hydra, assuming a 100% flawless, no-hit run
modest river
actually ares on bow is pretty good in my opinion
fiery pebble
Yeah should be 46%, since the 2 rooms prior to bosses dont give you a boon
Yeah the problem is that whenever you could pick Ares on bow
You could pick Athena or Poseidon, and do easily over three times the damage
jagged badger
I don't think I've ever gotten the Poseidon boon while using the bow
My most consistent success is with the shield
modest river
poseidon and athena special are good but atk not so much especially athena
they nerfed the hitbox of it so her atk wont be as good
spring cipher
Athena attack is good
modest river
on bow
fiery pebble
Doesnt matter, you pick Athenas attack because it does the most damage
When you do 300+ damage per attack, thats pretty good
modest river
hmm i see what u mean
fiery pebble
Like the hammer upgrades, artemis's dash, boiling blood, Urge to Kill
I did a bow run today that actually had all of those (its relatively reliable)
I think I did 500 per shot on Hydra
modest river
my first run today was artemis and athena
jagged badger
Wow
fiery pebble
Oh and Chaos attack boons
modest river
with chaos dash atk bonus of 90-
jagged badger
I don't think I've had numbers that high
fiery pebble
I also had one of those I think
modest river
i dealt like over 1k dmg
wraith grove
exatctly, could just do more by cast three blade whells in a line
jagged badger
Honest question: Are y'all worried about burning out on Hades? I played Dead Cells through Early Access on Steam and once it released, I barely touched it.
wraith grove
my spelling's awful forgive me
I think they're keeping it fresher
narrative travels a long way in these kinds of release schedules
modest river
Same here i have like over 130hrs on dead cell
jagged badger
I've been limiting my play time to try and keep myself from falling off
modest river
and barely touched it since the release
jagged badger
Very true. The story is a big motivator to keep playing
spring cipher
Dead cells
fiery pebble
I mean I dont play a ton of Hades
Whenever an update drops, i put some hours into it
Until I feel like Ive seen most of what the update has to offer
I think if you do that, you should be able to avoid burning out
modest river
i do like 1-2 runs per day
jagged badger
Word
fiery pebble
Well and play a couple of rounds here and there
fiery pebble
But Im also the type of player to not go all-in on games anyway
I play them on and off, depending on how Im feeling
jagged badger
Makes sense
spring cipher
I lab out the game for the first few days of a patch
jagged badger
I went hard on Dead Cells and Slay the Spire
fiery pebble
So YMMV
modest river
lol thats why i dont play story-based games
spring cipher
And then I do heat runs
fiery pebble
I do go all-in on those actually
Anything single player I usually play through pretty quickly
modest river
i cant seem to stick with it for very long
spring cipher
I love single player games
wraith grove
same
spring cipher
Those are my maintstains
modest river
same
spring cipher
I couldnt do more runs if wanted too
modest river
rouge-lite games are literally the best thing i discovered
spring cipher
Spamming heat runs is exhausting
jagged badger
That's been sitting in my library for a while
fiery pebble
I like multiplayer games because you get a lot more for your money
But then again, I do love me a good story
wraith grove
....fallout 76
modest river
lol ik
jagged portal
SGGs next game is Bastion 76
summer pewter
mfw the fact that the game is in early access is used as a plot point
jagged portal
get ready
wraith grove
transistor 19
jagged portal
Only if I can recruit bouldy to my triumvirate
fiery pebble
Imagine a Transistor MMO
modest river
lets hope EA doesnt have their eyes on any of our games
wraith grove
thoughts and prayers to CDProjectRed
jagged portal
Who wouldnt play Hades: Dancing All Night
wraith grove
For making Transistor 2077
prisma wind
Starting a new save for this update now, should be fun
olive jungle
i've used up all my save slots 😭
wraith grove
For some odd reason, "Hades: Dancing All Night" reminds me of that one scene in Devil May Cry 5, where Dante gets the Faust Hat weapon
you know?
prisma wind
Just start exporting saves and starting new ones, ven
jagged portal
I want to see dusa bust out some moves tbh
jagged badger
Supergiant Dancing All Night
Cuz there's too much good music
That'd get dope remixes
jagged badger
Maybe some Lotus Juice bars
prisma wind
I mean... that's just Crypt of the Necrodancer, basically
radiant tangle
Soooooo... good?
wraith grove
is it a dance game?
prisma wind
There's support for playing it with a dance pad, yes
wraith grove
ooooh
xD
i guess then yeah
kind of fitting that this comes up in the hades chat imo
@modest river find Than yet?
jagged portal
gn buddy 😃
wraith grove
peace ✌
jagged badger
Goodnight
olive terrace
What are the unlock requirements for the other sisters and the rival?
spring cipher
Not sure
olive terrace
I'm on a newish file and haven't seen them yet...
jagged portal
Try murdering someone, thatll speed things along
seriously though I dunno either 😦
olive terrace
Is thanatos random? I haven't encountered him either.
jagged portal
looks like it
olive terrace
Is he in his own room?
fiery pebble
Nope, he just turns any room into his challenge room
jagged portal
im doing run #5 on the new patch and im almost out of tartarus on this run and I havent found him yet 😠
olive terrace
Do you have to go into the harder rooms?
signal herald
I saw him in a random asphodel room
tulip lava
my friend saw thanatos in asphodel the other day. he said that thanatos has an 8 pack, that thanatos is ripped
signal herald
Lol
solid canopy
im that friend
also idk he seems to be random
i’ve encountered him both in tartarus and asphodel
shut pagoda
Is the patch already live?
shut pagoda
Weird, my game looks like its still on the feb 15th patch
signal herald
Yah. Makes me glad I gave him ambrosia before talking to him, cause he just booed out of here after
solid canopy
have you updated it through the client?
signal herald
Noped
shut pagoda
Tried toggling auto update, but it didn't seem to fix it
solid canopy
you can give him ambrosia in the house of hades too, he shows up there rarely
solid canopy
why can’t he just stay a little bit after we talk 😩
signal herald
T_T
olive jungle
dusa 2.0
i didnt realize he'd poof so i talked to him first and then he went away and i was that screaming cat pic for a hot second
then i remembered the game hadn't autosaved yet
so i just quit and tried again gkdfjgfd
abstract mountain
Hello, do you have any ideas about what kind of boss will be featured in the Elysium ?
olive jungle
Nope!
I think some people have tossed around painful speculation though gjdfgdf like cerberus
signal herald
Ahhhhhh
radiant tangle
It's the beetle, I'm telling ya
jagged portal
Dont make us hurt bouldy
abstract mountain
I thought about Cyclops
jagged portal
I might have to quit the game
radiant tangle
It's a cyclops and he slams his head down like the skullcrushers
solid canopy
it’s a cyclops and you have to defeat him through dialogue
abstract mountain
Guys did you know about Orthrus, a two-headed dog, that is the brother of Cerberus ?
It might be our next opponent
dawn bramble
blease...give me him....
solid canopy
give him?
abstract mountain
What are your best 120 Heat builds ?
olive jungle
probably a better question for #h1-builds-and-combat
abstract mountain
Thx
karmic ibex
I’m planning on using rail again and testing out some builds, do you think either dio or Zeus are the best builds or could Zeus and pos duo or Athena Artemis duo be pretty good?
Because with the rail and Athena you’d constantly be deflecting as well as rail pos just being good in general and being even better with Zeus duo
lofty mantle
Thanatos is SUPER swole
devout plinth
“dad said it’s my turn to kill mobs”
brisk trail
jen zee speciically modelled Thanatos' hair after Trunks god hes so cool
hollow rock
Thanatos is chad Trunks
calm hinge
where is Thanatos 
solid canopy
thanatos hot
thin beacon
cant spell thanatos without hot
digital garnet
@karmic ibex I got a super janky run with the rail, let me get the boons I got in a screenshot so you can laugh at it
digital garnet
Aw shoot, I lost the screenshot ):
Darn
Oh no, I mixed up my rail run with a bow run
devout plinth
U also can’t spell Thanatos w/o thot
hollow rock
Yknow what that means
signal spoke
or toast
hollow rock
ALL CTHONICS ARE QUEENS
IF HE DEAD HE A THOTTTT
Thanatos is anime schoolgirl late for class confirmed
solid canopy
this patch has been effective in keeping me playing since i keep hoping to see thanatos again hahaha
proven schooner
god damn tisiphone is tougher than the god damn hydra
hollow rock
Tisiphone was a loop
normal zephyr
Ok, I love Thanatos, but man did he screw my game. I just had to send three different bug reports for audio glitches. Hopefully, that's it.
olive jungle
Oh wow, sorry about that! Thanks for the reports, I'm sure SGG will look into it.
normal zephyr
Choose Artemis keepsake.
Jump out window.
Poseidon's blessing is waiting in front of me.
Damn it, game!
slender linden
it's scripted as tutorial for new mechanic
and apparently they dont consume the boon bonus from the keepsake anymore? until you find the first one
normal zephyr
Ah, okay. That's better then.
strong gust
tulip lava
oh that's why literally everyone is getting poseidon
fossil roost
@vale drift who’s idea was to call update Murder Death Kill? Who is that enlightened person that watched FSN UBW Abridged?
stoic osprey
I'm mad that I have enough weeb credits to understand what that abbreviation means.
near garden
So, I didn't gift Meg, yet, and I think she's gone forever from my game
RIP
The other Furies are super fun to fight, though
What a great update!
crystal mural
Murder Death Kill is originally from Demolition Man. Yay 90’s references!
muted lintel
are the doors that achilles is guarding unlockable?
olive jungle
For now, yes
muted lintel
how do you open them 😮
muted lintel
oh ty
slender linden
no problem! i think Ven misread the question xD
winter river
Patching in, this update looks SICK
Is Thanatos a boss or just another cthonic god you meet in Hades palace?
slender linden
uhh, both kind of? you'll see
winter river
So like Meg basically?
slender linden
different encounter than Meg
winter river
right but like you can meet him after beating him?
slender linden
||you don't really beat him, it's a race. and yes!||
winter river
or is that spoilers?
ah!
interesting
I was expecting a number of things out of this patch. A race mode wasn't one of them lol
slender linden
idk, i dont think i said anything spoilery xD it's a fun encounter
vale kite
All fun and games
winter river
Ya, I'm not bothered anyhow
calm hinge
┏┓
┃┃╱╲ in
┃╱╱╲╲ this
╱╱╭╮╲╲house
▔▏┗┛▕▔ there
╱▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔╲
is no escape, boy
╱╱┏┳┓╭╮┏┳┓ ╲╲
▔▏┗┻┛┃┃┗┻┛▕▔
winter river
you might want to spoiler tag it just in case someone else is bothered
slender linden
just to be sure
potent siren
Beat both Alecto and Tisiphone, much fun folks!
radiant tangle
Will there ever be a better feeling than getting World Splitter and oneshotting Thugs with a backstab?
stoic osprey
I'm conflicted on Tisiphone. She's fun but also super frustrating.
Well, Alecto is that, too. But I feel like ALecto leans more towards fun and Tisiphone leans more toward frustrating. <_<
radiant tangle
As long as you don't get hit by all three parts of her dash she isn't too bad
plain wasp
Tbh Tisiphone can be suuuuuuuuper easy depending on how your build is going. Beat her the first time i faced her. If you have aoe stuff like the shield and ares cast she goes down super quick
vale kite
Its a bit harder to get but poseidon's razor shoals helps a bunch too
She moves very fast and a lot
radiant tangle
Huh. Can you really just sit behind your shield the entire Tisiphone fight?
marble sphinx
tisiphone isn't crazy hard, she's harder than meg but still easier than the hydra imo
but still, what a fun fight
oh wait, no, i've only fought alecto, not tisiphone so far
gleaming crane
You're mad. Tisi, straightforward? The room gets smaller as the fight becomes faster and the attacks bigger. She has attacks with disappearing projectiles. She has attacks that can stun you.
Alecto is pretty much Meg with a few changes and is easy. Tisi is harder than the current final boss.
plain wasp
Yeah Alecto is hard as hell. Still don't get how to lower her rage besides waiting
limpid goblet
I did beat Tisi on 120 heat so I dunno
Alectos strange spikes shrekked me 
Can you stop the rage or does she just get mad 🤔
sharp valley
Is this game any video option to adjust? I use RX580 but get many FPS drops.
vale kite
She always gets enraged below 25% hp regardless of how full her rage meter is
You cant stop her rage anymore past this point
limpid goblet
Thank you mr toes
round herald
@sharp valley I use an rx480 and have no problems, try updating your graphic drivers or making sure there's no bottleneck
winter river
Beat Tisiphone and Alecto on second try. They aren't too hard (though I haven't started running heat yet so IDK how much that effects it). It does feel like Tisi is drastically more difficult if you don't roll an Athena boon or an awesome damage set though.
Either way, some great additions too the boss roster. Awesome patch
limpid goblet
Still think Tisi is pretty straightforward 😄 , no enemy summoning so one can just focus on dodging the attacks.
Always good to see Meg when you run high heat though
winter river
What do you do for the radial attack though? You can't really dodge because it's in all directions. Am I missing something? I don't disagree she's pretty straightforward, but that one particular attack is pretty absurd.
I didn't have deflect for either fight against her. I was able to beat her the second time using the spear with the Artemis boon on special for a ton of crit damage to burst her down.
primal arch
new areas?
plain wasp
I did a quick google search on greek underworld map, states there are main areas. Tartarus, asphodel and the next is nexus to olympus
or elyson
something like that 
limpid goblet
The aoe has gaps though
plain wasp
ooooh waaait i thought he meant floors 
brisk trail
Elysium
Or the Elysian fields
Tarturus is where souls are punished, Asphodel is a grey empty field where souls that did neither wrong nor right go and Elysium is a paradise where the soul of heroes dwell. It's neat how they had the in-game Asphodel focus more on the river of fire then the fields. I wonder what they will do with Elysium.
plain wasp
Well, paradise i guess from what i gather. Tho SG are probably gonna put some neat twist on it we won't expect
abstract mountain
Hello is there a way to use Hades emojis elsewherd ? Or is it stuck to the channel
olive jungle
If you have Discord Nitro, you can use these emojis in other servers
unkempt sleet
Yes it's discord's "premium" service
plucky sparrow
how do i get permission to submit on the feedback tab?
olive jungle
check the pinned post in feedback
foggy kiln
Tisiphone completely kicked my ass. Running only 30 heat and I burned 2 Death Defiance on her. Got lucky on Wells of Charon and still managed to finish the run but yikes...
How's Alecto?
olive jungle
a much smoother fight, imo, haha
plucky sparrow
@olive jungle thanks!
whole oracle
Alecto is a nuts fight. 3 times i've gotten there and can't beat her
her rage makes her move so fast and so close
and you dash around but keep running onto traps
foggy kiln
How much of it is just "we aren't used to her like we are used to Meg" I wonder?
whole oracle
her attack patterns are much more frenetic
even if they are predictable.
the window of when it is safe to attack her without getting hit is miniscule
foggy kiln
Ruh roh
whole oracle
when she rages, she chases you, throws the bolts in your face hitting you with multiple, plus she explodes the ground around you, at a much faster speed than Megs ground aoe explosions
foggy kiln
And with whipped frenzy that sounds... rough
limpid goblet
Alecto>Tisiphone>Meg
gleaming crane
Alecto is way easy imo. On Meg's level, maybe even easier because you don't have those freaking witches hiding behind pillars all the time. Fought her 3 times, beat her 3 times without taking more than 30 damage. Only saw Tisiphone once, and she got me to burn a death defiance.
limpid goblet
In terms of hardness
gleaming crane
Tisiphone>>>Alecto=Meg
limpid goblet
Are we speaking heat
So many people think Tisiphone is harder 🤔
Well, opinions preferences and cookies
foggy kiln
I just couldn't figure out how to dodge Tisi's attacks
And then the map got very... small...
limpid goblet
She just attacks faster , and the map gets smaller yeah
But the patterns are pretty eady imo
barren wind
Alecto consistently gives me a harder time I think
dusty elm
tisiphone is easier with deflect
I just beat her with the rail + athena atk boon
seems like u can deflect her stun shot
alpine stratus
OH yeah i did a tisiphone fight w titan toppler and deflect on special and it was weirdly easy
any giants watching. THIS IS A GOOD THING I LIKE WINNING FIGHTS
dusty elm
She is strong with that stun imo
whole oracle
I just realised because I have the pact of punishment on, the fight may be harder than I had supposed
since I have massive speed boosts and health boosts to the enemies 😛
dusty elm
Hmm thats highly possible
I'm testing this update without the pact
Sword feels alot stronger now tho, its my 1st choice atm. Shield used to be my favourite, now without bull rush knockback it feels off
burnt latch
will we get a steam key after early access?
alpine stratus
not that im aware of!
whole oracle
it isn't going to be on steam i don't think. its on the Epic game store
brazen lake
Its gonna be on steam
Its only on the epic store exclusively until its finished
As for the question about keys, if you got a steam key you could just give it to someone who would have otherwise bought the game and then they lose a lot of money
hollow rock
Mm that’s a good and disappointing point
void vigil
on the bright side, rebuying it means you give supergiant more money, which is a good thing
i like having my games on steam so im gonna rebuy it then 🤷
smoky arrow
I'll probably be rebuying it even though I've already got it
where's that picture?
The "shut up and take my money!"
void vigil
lmao exactly
potent tapir
i dont even have athenas boon equipped
also im doing like 600 dmg with one attack now if i do it right this is insane
sick tree
Athena boons are great~
foggy kiln
Except Dash... I can never make that work. The delay just messes everything up.
Do we think before the game releases there will be all 12 Olympian Gods available to grant boons? Missing Hera, Demeter, Apollo, Hephaestus, and Hernes. Who would y'all most/least want to have added?
Hermes is top of my list.
tall gull
How many parts of the greek Underworld are there and how many of them will we see in Hades ?
fiery pebble
Depends on how you count
But usually, 4
Tartarus, Asphodel Meadows, Elysium and the Isles of the Blessed
sick tree
3 primary areas, mythologically speaking
fiery pebble
Im not sure, it could be the Isles of the blessed as well
potent tapir
whats the isles?
fiery pebble
Theyre a special area of the underworld
An area solely to those who reincarnated thrice
And got into Elysium each time
tall gull
what should I type into google to find more info about these areas ?
tulip lava
Ovid don't interact
slender linden
in the roadmap they mentioned how many olympians they want to add, idk if they updated it after this patch
tall gull
What intrests me is will we ever get to olympus ?
slender linden
someone asked earlier
sick tree
@foggy kiln - I concur that Athena's dash boon is terrible,
As for whether we'll see all 12 Olympians in the finished game, unfortunately, it doesn't seem very likely
If you click on the 'x days until next major update' box on Hades' main menu, it'll open a big list of everything Supergiant want to add before the end of this year
slender linden
i think it said like 'at least 9'?
foggy kiln
Thought it was at least 8 before year end, but I'm hoping for all 12 before final release.
I'm at work so I can't look
slender linden
i dont remember but itd be neat to have all 12
sick tree
8 actually, they currently have 7,
It's possible development will continue into 2020 long enough for them to add the remaining 4 but it doesn't seem likely
foggy kiln
I'd be okay if not all the Gids gave boons, but they should all make an appearance at least.
slender linden
they just high five you when you escaped xD
foggy kiln
Like maybe Hephaestus is an encounter like Sisyphus
Gives you an giant upgrade and sends you on your way
slender linden
that doesn't rly make sense, Sis is stuck down there
boons are kinda like sending an email
or voice mail
foggy kiln
Sends you a second Daedalus Hammer maybe?
shrug Just throwing ideas around
I wonder if Life-Leech effects would break the game... seems like that could be a cool power for Apollo.
...that probably wouldn't work the more I think about it...
vale kite
used to be a daedalus sword upgrade that gave it lifesteal
obviously it was very much broken
potent tapir
it just didnt work lul
brisk trail
I’m just passing thru but- Belgo your nicknames and profile pictures really do always impress me 
potent tapir
gave you like 3 hp when it was supposed to be much more
vale kite
i aim to please
brisk trail
yoo this is actually quite cool
didnt know
you could get duo god powers
Artemis + Ares your blade rift also homes in on enemies ❤
WAT
potent tapir
also tfw youre a murderer 😦
brisk trail
😛
sick tree
Ooooh~ - they've updated the roadmap!
Odds of seeing all 12 Olympians in v1.o - significant increase
tall gull
Maybe Hades himself is the last boss
sick tree
I hope not
tall gull
Is there a Gatekeeper of the Underworld of sorts ?
potent tapir
yeah cerberus
sick tree
Cerberus
potent tapir
but we already know him lul
tall gull
I guess we wont fight him
radiant tangle
You're gonna have to fight Good Doggo eventually and it's going to hurt
tall gull
maybe Tisiphone would be interesting
radiant tangle
We already have one character who we can both gift to and fight (Meg)
tall gull
right
sick tree
Left
tall gull
they can go in many directions with the story pretty interesting
interacting with the characters is what I enjoy most in this game
dreamy latch
If I fight good doggo I'm gonna cry
tall gull
doggos gonna cry aswell 😢
dreamy latch
The good ol' Hadestache
radiant tangle
alpine stratus
NXKGMCNBMVMBMB
olive jungle
KGJDFHG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
void vigil
GOD
void vigil
thank u ven
olive jungle
i made an executive decision
radiant tangle
:D
solid canopy
sfdkhgfdskh LOAF
slender linden
wow
dreamy latch
Nobody gets L O A F in here, boy.
cloud jewel
you wish to obtain this grain? don’t even try.
red coral
Zag was just trying to get this bread all along.....
dreamy latch
Yup, mama is just a cover-up for Zag's thirst for bread
tulip lava
achilles: hey lad want to share a drink
zag: cheers i'll toast to that
zag: -pulls out a piece of toast-
dreamy latch
achilles : -backs off with fear in his eyes-
dawn bramble
Zag: what's wrong achilles?
alpine stratus
zag: a pancake is a toast...cube rule
dreamy latch
I want darkness to be replaced by bread, for only it can give Zagreus the true power he needs
tulip lava
blood and carbness
gleaming crane
Replace Heat with meat. Keys are salad. Obol is tomatoes. Ambrosia is kebab sauce. With all of them, joined to the elusive onion, you'll get a great kebab.
red coral
pom is stromboli
terse vapor
do we have a new zone yet?
vale kite
next biome comes in may
night turret
uuum so that's why next Major is 55 days away?
stoic osprey
Yeah, they need time to work on it. =P
livid cargo
it's hard work to make a dusa romance spinoff game 
amber garden
The bullet hell ones? Or am I confused
night turret
How does one says it in english... Harem dating sims with female protagonist?
fallow goblet
is titan doppler any good?
slender linden
visual novels. but yeah the subgenre of that is otome-games xD
sick tree
Anyone else a little annoyed when Dusa or Thanatos disappear right after a conversation?
mental tartan
Yes lol
amber garden
Gift first, talk second lol
sick tree
Specifically when you wanna give them ambrosia but they run off before you can give it to them because you wanted to have the normal conversation first
I'm like: (pout) why won't you let me love you?~~
slender linden
but you know how they work
minor hornet
that's how I typically greet my friends, actually
slender linden
just play by their rules D:
minor hornet
bribery
slender linden
pfft
deep blade
I've been having some frame drops
lately
like really bad frame drops
I dunno if this is happening to anyone else but is bad
livid cargo
maybe look at #hades-tech-fixes-old to see if you can find anything
hollow rock
I get frame drops, but i'm running on a macbook air, sooooooooo
solid canopy
i get frame drops when i do the dionysus wrath + lots and lots of mobs and projectiles on screen'
solar cove
hey I noticed that in a certain room (rooms?) in Asphodel with these tall stone pyres capped with skulls
if you destroy the pyres during the encounter, they drop gold
but drop nothing afterwards
is either part of this a bug or is it intended?
any word?
night turret
Pillars droping gold are actually random I think.
It was a thing since the start if i remember correctly
hollow rock
I dont think the Aegis is blocking those purple wave attacks? Is that on purpose?
dark tusk
i hope this game comes to ps4
vale kite
wave-makers are further evidence that hades and pyre share the same universe
wet reef
waver makers are just dead ritualists
cerulean iris
@solar cove yeah they only drop gold during the fight - try searching "destroy pillars", i remember someone else pointing that out
cerulean iris
👍
solar cove
taking the time and risk to get gold from them when you're on the threshold of a new purchasing tier seems like a good strategy
but even a whole room of them doesn't give so much that its always worth it
I like the change/idea
assuming its new in the patch and not something I just never noticed before
night turret
They were dropping gold as long as i can remember >_>
cerulean iris
hmm i think the devs expected ppl to use the pillars more in Asphodel combat. hence free money
but they take so darn long to crumble and the zones are so big i haven't really heard anyone talk about using them
frozen snow
Sometimes I'll smash pillars in the trial of the gods rooms, since I can do it safely before the battle starts.
tepid wedge
the real question is this: when you select the next room do you really select the room, or just the reward? 🤔
in certain cases you select the room, when it has no encounter or it has a boss encounter 🤔
but in other times... we can't really tell 😮
night turret
Does it really matter? Zag is insane anyway, all decisions past futile escape attempts matter not.
minor hornet
my runs have started to feel mean-spirited because I know no matter how hard he tries and how well he does there is currently literally no way Zag is going to succeed
alpine stratus
hhhhh awww
imitating choice till i feel good again, as an otherwise nonzagcore song goes.... 
night turret
Still I liked how they changed run ending message
umbral mist
Dusa 4ever Dusa Love ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
astral lagoon
thats me
umbral mist
how are guys???? Do you like that update????
astral lagoon
me too!!
night turret
eh good times actually were weakest 
minor hornet
-->disagreement box<--
alpine stratus
awww its ok, everyones got opinions
spring cipher
Can we get an Unpopular opinions hades edition in chat?
umbral mist
xDDDDDD
spring cipher
i think my only unpopular opinion is that chaos boons are largely useless
other than that I kinda just dont have much to say
radiant tangle
They just got buffed big time
void vigil
hmmm, i dont know if any of my opinions are unpopular
minor hornet
I think ares attack curse + bow/shield is super good because with a couple upgrades you can be applying 100+ damage to like the entire room, which seems unpopular
radiant tangle
I don't think that's what was meant by unpopular opinion
night turret
I have an unpopular opinion
radiant tangle
Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying
fiery pebble
Apparently my unpopular opinion is that Shield special is rubbish and should not be used unless you were forced to pick up Mirage Flight
night turret
Bow does not exist.
void vigil
uh oh morgan will get u for that ma'sair
fiery pebble
Theyre basically better Pressure Points/Urge to Kill
Like I started getting 1k crits with spear thanks to a Chaos pickup
minor hornet
how about this: bouldy is not the best character in the game
void vigil
extremely unpopular and blatantly wrong opinion
radiant tangle
You're entitled to your wrong opinion /s
spring cipher
and then you just build normally
spring cipher
its pretty good
fiery pebble
I only ever pick it when the alternative is slow charge and some other shield special upgrade
spring cipher
really depends on how you're builfing
fiery pebble
Otherwise, Eurobeat is far better (and way more fun)
And just 50% damage up is generally better
fiery pebble
True, in that case you do pick Mirage Flight because its the least bad option
spring cipher
and normal gameplay
void vigil
unpopular opinion: its ok to not always go for the best/most effective or high damage builds, because different things and experimenting might be more fun
radiant tangle
^^^^^
That's why I used to take World Splitter every chance I got (still do, but it's good now)
fiery pebble
I mean World Splitter was always good
Its fine not picking the best slot because something else is more fun, but shield special is neither useful nor exactly fun (that part is in my opinion)
Speaking of which, I wish shields hammer upgrades were like bows, where the special only gets 1 or 2 upgrades and everything else is on the rest of the kit
radiant tangle
Shield special gets 3 on the hammer, right?
fiery pebble
5 I think?
night turret
You can turn Hades in point and click-adventure if you take a cursed-shield special build and rebind it to m1...
fiery pebble
Huh
Apparently only those 3
I couldve sworn there were others
But I also cant recall what they wouldve done
Wait, one did more damage per bounce
spring cipher
Sheild special is fine
radiant tangle
That got replaced with Mirage
spring cipher
its damage is lack luster but with ares its really good
spring cipher
And its just really safe
fiery pebble
Even with Ares its just less effective (And fun) than charging it up and going on a rushing journey
spring cipher
which is the most important part
fiery pebble
Its also so bloody slow
fiery pebble
Excuse you
spring cipher
Because you can optimize damage with it
fiery pebble
Bull rush is hilarious
spring cipher
But its not like outstanding
fiery pebble
Especially with the eurobeat upgrade
spring cipher
its not that fun imo
radiant tangle
Everyone has different playstyles, so please don't go for each other's throats over things like this
fiery pebble
But even just charging, then dash double-tapping mid-charge
spring cipher
Okay
fiery pebble
Is fun as hell
umbral mist
hmmmmm guys im only one person that play with spear???????????????????????????????????
radiant tangle
I do occasionally, the 50% buff to special last patch was fantastic
umbral mist
love spear with dionysus Q boon its rly broken
fiery pebble
Q is special, isnt it
radiant tangle
Yeah
umbral mist
but but but...
fiery pebble
Why would you pick Dio on Q? You dont attack fast enough to really stack it up
radiant tangle
Two per special ain't bad
fiery pebble
Eh, given you can stack up 5 in that same time with gun, spear or flurry blade
And ... bow special I think?
umbral mist
maybe??
fiery pebble
But yeah, seeing how spear special can easily hit for 1k on the return
Id say the regular build is a bit more broken
radiant tangle
But we're not talking about how good it stacks compared to other weapons or abilities
umbral mist
hey guys i want to try dio wraith (do you test it what do you think about it???)
fiery pebble
Seems powerful, but I usually get it when my main attacks already apply blight wine anyway
So it ends up redundant
radiant tangle
It's an eyesore, but it's very fun to use
umbral mist
ok lets try it LEEETS GO
mmmmuuuurder???????????
can i see meg why they???????????
void vigil
mmmmmmmmmmmmeg machine broke
radiant tangle
We got Mmmmmmmmurder tho
dreamy latch
Mmmmmmurder's cool and all, but I want my waifu back
I've fought Alecto 4 times in a row, please
night turret
Alecto is fun, Tissy and I have a story I'd like to not remember and after those two... Meg is kinda... not deserving that big of a room (unpopular opinion?)
umbral mist
BB guys im goin' sleep sweet Dreams to you guys 
umbral mist
night turret
Well that gimmick is kinda meh
fiery pebble
Idk, I like it
night turret
After sisters hit me with perspective, I think meg really doesnt need that stadium of arena. It's reaaly huge for no reason other than to house a small slavic republic of adds, and the choice of enemies doesnt apply that much pressure.
radiant tangle
Remember, your experiences are not universal. I find the extra enemies apply a lot of pressure, especially to early runs or runs that don't have good waveclear.
night turret
Yeah, but you really dont need a waveclear with meg. But hey i'm here spewing nonsense from my 0 heat high-horse)
fiery pebble
They add a bit of challe nge
Not so much that the fight is frustrating
But it does come up
hollow rock
The enemies make up a good chunk of the difficulty imo
At least while I'm running shield
They make it more likely that my defense will be broken if I'm not careful
Meg herself is rather easy to read on those runs
night turret
With shield it's so easy to beat down meg before adds spawn enough... atleast for me >_>
nocturne verge
with bow or rail im more likely to need to switch focus to the adds
maybe not rail now that theres run-reload, havent played it much this update
hollow rock
Mirror upgrades makes Meg a lot easier, but early runs or substandard boons can impair the fight-- im not at the point where I can beat her before the spawns
fiery pebble
I wonder if its possible to oneshot meg
flint gust
Meg would benefit maybe from having those wave boys added to her spawn roster, and maaaaybe lazer stones, just to mix it up
nocturne verge
i cant imagine what could do that much damage even in theory
hollow rock
Noooooo not the wave boys
flint gust
The thugs arent really a threat
hollow rock
The witches are the bigger threat when I fight
flint gust
Unless youre playing max frenzy, even then they pale in comparison with meg herself
hollow rock
Are the waves supposed to be unblockable?
flint gust
They can be deflected
hollow rock
Or am I just playing bad
nocturne verge
you can hit them and break them i believe
flint gust
I mean, just adding armor to Meg's backup dancers would make it a challenge once again
hollow rock
I've never tried that oof
flint gust
Simply cause you'd have to commit more to ganking the mobs
nocturne verge
it is a challenge now for learning players, low mirror players
flint gust
I feel bad for her tho
hollow rock
Maybe she could get that upgrade after ||hydra||
hollow rock
The other sisters dont spawn until after you beat her a few times
fiery pebble
Maybe they go through your shield and hit you behind it
flint gust
I want her to make me sweat without having so much heat that bloodless become ICBMs
hollow rock
Ah, that sucks XP
livid cargo
Finally gonna get to play new patch soon
spiral canopy
night turret
Well we have a MegXZag that canonicaly sunk to hell.
night turret
Still waiting, huh)
fallen folio
Hypnos/Nap
fallen folio
Zag/getting shoes that dont go up in flames
flint gust
I need Meg and Zag back together
fallen folio
Meg needs A Break
flint gust
It's the only thing needed to make Hades the best game I'll play in my lifetime
slender linden
depends how but i'd rather not have it forced
fallen folio
Id rather Zag just gave Orpheus a smooch
slender linden
hmmm
fallen folio
Live the good life baby. Kiss Orpheus, kiss Sisyphus. Sky’s the limit
gleaming crane
Can't smooch Orpheus, he's taken.
fallen folio
Yeah she got a break
gleaming crane
Sisyphus, though, as long as you're comfortable with Bouldy watching...
slender linden
smooch dem cheeks, if they consent :3
fallen folio
Sure
sterile peak
kiss bouldy
hollow rock
I have no idea how to read ||Thanatos,|| but I may have been desensitized to that scenario be Fire Emblem Fates (or Technically Not Siblings: the game)
olive jungle
It doesn't get much clearer, I regret to inform you
sterile peak
||thanos toes||
olive jungle
pur🅱le
sterile peak
🅱 eath approaches