he is prince z and hypnos is zzz
#h1-discussion
karmic basalt
alpine stratus
hdkcnckfjf
AAAAAAA I MADE IT PAST SKELLY BROTHERS W/O ANY DEATH DEFIES, used em both on the room after w the laser crystals but my maybespoiler friend is here to give me snack 🙏 😭
ahhhh the gift noise and enlightenment noise is the same <33 the pyre shoutouts keep me grounded
I HAD TWO SECPNDS TP GO ON A HADES' HATERS ROUND NONONONONO
TWO SECONDS!!!!!
midnight gazelle
can i say its great to see how much fun you´re having?
alpine stratus
karmic basalt
i think i've only managed to pass that room once and only after it ate through all 75 of my hp and most of my death defiance 😂 im so bad at dodging
buoyant plank
i love how supportive this community is! ❤ good luck i haven't been able to play it for a little bit so idk if its still viable but what I did for the brothers was either get Athena's block or Poseidon's knock back and eather deflect the bombs or pummel them into the walls but you gotta stay moving. I know this technically doesn't go here whoops. Good luck all!
tawny pollen
Any news on what additional weapons there might be?
I’m hoping for a hammer and a big green sword
buoyant plank
i said good luck twice, I got excited haha
fair echo
Hammer and sickle/scythe o:
buoyant plank
I want a trident but that would work like the spear probibly
fair echo
I thought the spear was a Trident for a while xP But I think I was only walking past giving it a glance at the time.
karmic basalt
if it has two prongs instead of three does that mean it's a bident
buoyant plank
you know what would be interesting, vials of greek fire, low initial damage but high damage over time thrown aoe weapon
hexed smelt
i mean, i feel like you suggested that as a joke @karmic basalt
but actually yes, it is, and it's associated with hades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bident
karmic basalt
yes it was a joke but im so glad it's an actual thing
but also half a question bc i wasn't sure that actually existed 😂
steady plume
can we get grandpa's scythe?
pretty sure the spear in game was Hades' weapon but gonna need to check weapon descriptions
karmic basalt
ye it was
alpine stratus
someone: so are you straight or gay
zag: (holds up a bident) get it
I JUST WANA SAY THO
I REACHED
CHAMBER 14
I AM CLIMBIN THRU
karmic basalt
woo!!!
buoyant plank
proud of u!
alpine stratus
steady plume
grats
alpine stratus
i was stuck at 9 for so loooong
karmic basalt
i want to go home and play 😭
buoyant plank
i think i got to 20? When you upgrade your dodge it really helps
karmic basalt
@alpine stratus your feedback about brimstones... is relatable...
steady plume
I am trying to get a sword run done
alpine stratus
YEAH........I HATE THEM AND THEIR LASERS
steady plume
I have done the other weapons
karmic basalt
gl stray U CAN DO IT
alpine stratus
gl!!!!!
steady plume
I just want to go back to my bow again
shrewd flare
I can reach the very last chamber, but I cant beat the snek
steady plume
100% always instinctively go to Steam to launch this game
outer agate
hard junco
Yeah that happens xD
steady plume
Yeah just gotta play the dodge game and hope it comes back
rigid grotto
Just had an amazing legendary artemis boon run
karmic basalt
zagreus is just jealous the shield managed to leave hell before he did
cerulean thistle
Hey, is there someplace where you can download the character art? I'd really like to use Dusa artwork as an avatar bit can't find the whole art
hard junco
i had a pretty good run before, increased dmg to weak foes plus weaking on basic and special attacks
was dealing 140-200
keen hill
It works if you’re in windowed mode! I had the same weirdness
rigid grotto
oh yea
going to upload the legendary artemis spear run, ill put the channel in #self-promotion
keen hill
Ive been using something like that and it’s been working pretty well for me. Still haven’t beat the first boss tho
amber geyser
where should I report a bug? it´s probably a well know one though
keen hill
also unrelated but I love the sheer amount of voice lines dedicated to just....messing with things you shouldn’t. Like locked doors and the bed and junk, it’s great
karmic basalt
yes!
that was one of the things i liked a lot in bastion so i was glad just poking random things in hades also had some lines lol
keen hill
yeah same, there was some of it in pyre too
hexed smelt
i have to go mess with the doors every time i'm home
keen hill
love that sg touch
karmic basalt
me: maybe it'll work this time
hades: no
hexed smelt
ignore dad, talk to dog, talk to achilles, mess with the doors
karmic basalt
i actually talk to hades every time just to annoy him
keen hill
Gotta bother dad by rumbling the doors
karmic basalt
every time
amber geyser
it seems that after defeating the hydra you can just go straight to the lava and chill a bit out of the screen
lethal otter
signal spoke
bruh I couldn't even beat it with the good aphrodite boons and 3 death defies
i think im trash at this game xD
spring cipher
I feel like im checking #hades-patch-notes every other minute
Im just so excited for any content
signal spoke
same
altho I wanna keep grinding just to see what those other details are that I can unlock about characters in 100 more dialogues
spring cipher
Ive been doing that
amber geyser
I killed hydra 3 times in a row but I was broken beyond belief in all 3 of them
signal spoke
that seems like kind of a grind tho. I feel like I played a lot and I only have about 30 runs. I need like 100 more deaths to get that dialogue haha
signal spoke
ikr. Cerberus should count as 3 conversations for each time you talk since he has 3 heads
at least id like to believe that so i can get more lore about him sooner lmao
signal spoke
you bet he is
rigid grotto
better yet, make us talk to each head one at a time
junior yacht
Better yet, let us pet him.
jagged portal
Just let him eat meg so I can skip that room
junior yacht
lol
spring cipher
Meg is stupid tbh
junior yacht
I kinda like her
spring cipher
Harder than other boss imo
prime harness
nah
jagged portal
I dont think shes super hard she just takes a while
prime harness
just gotta be patient:p
spring cipher
coughs at snake
jagged portal
especially if you have something like curse you can just hit and run for 20 minutes
spring cipher
I have no patience
prime harness
thats ur problem:p
junior yacht
I think she shouldnt be invincible during her summon but thats it. She's good in the personality part but I mean its a supergiant character I don't think I've disliked any one of them.
spring cipher
And usual sit there screwed
keen hill
Yeah, I like her as a character I’m just Bad
junior yacht
That is my entire life story there
spring cipher
Unlucky leon
vagrant leaf
So, how many bosses a in game right now ?
spring cipher
2
junior yacht
HOW DO YOU KEEP READING MY MIND RED?
void vigil
megs ok if youre careful and dont get too greedy though she does have a lot of health so it takes a while
keen hill
I’m good at some things
junior yacht
Greedt is my middle name
void vigil
final boss gets a little wild if u dont have all the op boons
vagrant leaf
yeah meg is pretty easy
keen hill
I have a bad habit of playing this game like I play bloodborne and just rushing everything
spring cipher
Those are pains to deal with
void vigil
skeletwins and the boat seem to be the midboss rooms so im glad youre able to skip them
or at least skip the boat
spring cipher
The spear is your weapon of choice 5hen REd
void vigil
for a lesser reward ofc but still
spring cipher
Not really?
keen hill
Wait, you can skip those?
spring cipher
I had to choose between darkness boss room and a boon room often
junior yacht
Also I love your name Awful
It is
I said it to myself a couple times and now my coworkers think I'm crazy
which is pretty normal for a wednesday so whatever
junior yacht
the ones with the double blessing awful?
void vigil
red, you can skip them! usually the midboss rooms have a boon with a skull and sparkles so its more powerful, so just choose the other room available
junior yacht
Ty Alma
spring cipher
Never skipped a trial of the gods omce
junior yacht
and yeah its good.
spring cipher
Theyre too good
jagged portal
The midboss in tartarus isnt too bad though
junior yacht
which gods angry minions should you fight hto?
I lost 2 lives to the artemis ones
they teleport
makes sense
void vigil
i got an aphrodite/zeus one and i took aphrodite first without a doubt
spring cipher
Even when im at 9 health with no defiances and theres a health room i still pick the trial
I choose based off which ever enemie is easier to kill tbh
void vigil
wow risky.... thats too scary for me i play it safe if i can
real narwhal
Artemis is my fav
jagged portal
Gotta risk it for the biscuit
junior yacht
YUP
real narwhal
artemis is like top tier
junior yacht
Her scorned dialogue is hilarious tho.
spring cipher
I just think the other weapons dont have enough symergy with other boons
Meanwhile artemis has an estanlished niche
brisk trail
Thought I would mention it here, we're working on the Hades wiki at gamepedia, if you'd like to contribute feel welcome to 😄
junior yacht
Oh, are they gonna add more art for her? she looks like a lot of the other hooded peeps.
spring cipher
Yes they will
junior yacht
noice
spring cipher
Most liekly
brisk trail
"Are the robed character portraits final?
No. These are an example of work-in-progress content we’ll update during Early Access."
junior yacht
DOUBLE NOICE
spring cipher
The hooded chars are place holdrrs
real narwhal
Now am super curious for artemis
spring cipher
Cant wait to zee syphius
brisk trail
I feel like theyre gonna leave Nyx though
spring cipher
Boulder bro is the best
brisk trail
I've seen the rough work for him, cant and wont share here tho
keen hill
Bouldy is a good
spring cipher
We need a boulder bro type character for aspho
brisk trail
I can safely say tho
real narwhal
damn it kimo
brisk trail
Sisyphus is an absolute unit
real narwhal
dont teaseeee
brisk trail
I can DM
jagged portal
Swoleyphus
brisk trail
Not gonna post datamined stuff here tho
keen hill
I’ve got an image in my head and I’m going to get absolutely swerved aren’t i
round bone
I know all of your other games are single player, is there any chance this is going to be co op in the future?
keen hill
It’s like when you read a book series and then go see the movie
brisk trail
You wanna see it? @keen hill @real narwhal
real narwhal
aaaa am like, do i wanan see it, or do i wanna wait
brisk trail
It's pretty WIP
real narwhal
like Ares kinda thing?
keen hill
I think ill wait till the finished version gets put in, I wanna be surprised
real narwhal
yeh same same same, but thnx tho
brisk trail
four colors rough haha
spring cipher
Hades is a baller
brisk trail
Theyre probably working through them all
junior yacht
I havent seen him more than twice
spring cipher
Dude punished to lift a boulder up a hill for all eternity
keen hill
I remember falling down a wiki hole about him once but I’d forgotten most of it until this game
brisk trail
Oh that dude
real narwhal
Whats up with greek myth punishments being like
brisk trail
I hope they work in perseus some how
real narwhal
"carry this circle thing for all eternity"
brisk trail
even if its just a quick reference
real narwhal
like kronos style
brisk trail
like dusa mentioning how she dislikes him haha
brisk trail
prometheus got it the worst
real narwhal
poor ol prometheus
junior yacht
Whoops
real narwhal
i played god of war 2 for that one
keen hill
Greek gods were wild
real narwhal
(also read it at school but watevs)
junior yacht
Yeah they had some issues
spring cipher
Bad guy kratos tbh
keen hill
I recently was listening to the Circe audiobook and being like “ah....it’s just like that, huh”
spring cipher
I just find it weird how mortal gods are in those video games
real narwhal
for me god of war was hilarious
spring cipher
They seemed so weak
real narwhal
from a myth standpoint
like ikaros being a grugdy old drunken man
wonder if we will see ikaros, i feel like he fits very well with sgg
real narwhal
welp...
real narwhal
to be fair, it makes no sense why they englify it like that
brisk trail
im sure he could have some great abilities for us
real narwhal
in greek its Ικαρος
keen hill
Daedalus is mentioned so I’d be surprised if we didn’t see him
keen hill
That would be raddddd
spring cipher
Yeah then i would want them to super buff god boons and make them more rare
real narwhal
tho idk how much they can show
spring cipher
Yeah theres only so much content
brisk trail
it being designated to the underworld limits it a bit
spring cipher
But then again binding of issac
Us
Like also jam packed
I just wish that you could make builds mixing god boons together
But you cant they end up being to weak
real narwhal
if we get tons of update dlc stuff like binding of isaac it would be cool
true, usually sticking with one god as much as possible is better
spring cipher
It feels like god boons have a level system
Which gets better each boon accepted from the same god
static roost
You get better boons in rooms with tougher enemies (marked by a small skull on the door orb)
spring cipher
Well yeah im just saying the more boons you get from the same god the stronger their boons get
Is how it feels
static roost
that hasn't been my experience
real narwhal
i did feel that, but maybe its just placebo
spring cipher
Idk man for artemis you can only gey multicast and stick cast and support fire after other artemis buffs
real narwhal
i was wondering what those skulls were about
static roost
you do start seeing miscellaneous buffs after all your attacks have a boon
but that's not tied to them all being from a specific god
spring cipher
I mean they arent miscellaneous imo theyre the better buffs from my experience
static roost
maybe for artemis, I haven't used her buffs much
spring cipher
And i feel like that locks you out of other cool builds
Like imagine multishot with ares blade casts
jagged portal
Some of the cast boons make them pretty fun
signal spoke
yea i keep hearing that with the right boons casting can be pretty good
i think im gonna try it in my next couple runs and see how it goes
static roost
hoping for the right boons is too RNG for me, even with keepsakes
jagged portal
Eh if I was too concerned with rng I wouldnt be playing a roguelike and besides since ive finished all the floors im mostly just trying new builds now
midnight bay
The go to god for casts is definitely Artemis
low venture
I feel like all the cast boobs are pretty fun
jagged portal
static roost
is it better than her dash boon with the spear?
low venture
Boons
static roost
because spear + artemis dash is nuts
midnight bay
Artemis dash in general is kinda nuts
I feel like the cast has a higher ceiling but it kind of requires running into Artemis again to reach that ceiling
static roost
doesn't work great with the shield because you can't charge a bull rush before the crit buff runs out
but otherwise
spring cipher
Idk if you check gameplay and tatics cast builds are pretty commonly used
Pretty reliable as well
jagged portal
honestly the one thing I really dislike is the sword
static roost
I think everyone agrees the sword is garbo right now
tepid orchid
I ended up with cast build doing over a thousand damage per cast
It was pretty nuts
midnight bay
I don’t think it’s Garbo, just worse than the other weapons
signal spoke
how can you not love T posing on your enemies
im trash and i just spammed the special :p
but yea not my fav either
ember fossil
So what's up with Dusa being a head? Orpheus got torn limb from limb by maenads, but he shows up in one piece. You'd think a little decapitation would be the same.
real narwhal
Artistic liberties (???)
brisk trail
What item does Achilles give you again?
when you give him Ambrosia
@ember fossil Orpheus model and portrait are WIP
maybe he will look more beaten up in his final appearance
burnt pond
Bracer i think
ember fossil
Ah, that's true. Presumably he can't be too dismembered, though, or he wouldn't be able to play the lyre.
burnt pond
Yep it is bracer
brisk trail
What's the full name?
burnt pond
Myrmidon Bracer
brisk trail
Cheers
dense sail
What sort of feedback are the developers looking for?
have they commented about what would be the most useful for assisting with the development of the game?
real narwhal
i think anything really, from like game design standpoint, to bug reports and balancing issues, am not 100% tho
brisk trail
^
dense sail
alright
myself and a few other speedrunners have been tearing into the game and looking at all of the values and stuff 😂 so I can type something up, might just be lengthy
spring cipher
Also jf theres anything youd like to see in the game that has relevence add it in there
real narwhal
i think its interesting to see the problems from the speedrunner's perspective
dense sail
yeah love the mechanics and how things build, very fascinating how you can consistently get certain builds
but anyways thanks!
real narwhal
oh man what was it
spring cipher
Think it was king of olympians
spring cipher
Not lightning related
real narwhal
i can confirm
its
"King of the olympians"
(just went in game with the zeus item boon thingie)
junior yacht
oh dang its covert muffin!
junior yacht
I loved your star wars runs!
brisk trail
haha did you say the S word
brisk trail
yeah im not used to no swearing
real narwhal
and you dont think twice about it
junior yacht
@dense sail take a bath
dense sail
🛀
real narwhal
its just kinda cathartic
junior yacht
my life is now complete
dense sail
hahaha ❤
brisk trail
Can someone throw me together a list of the keepsakes the gods give you?
That they can remember
real narwhal
you mean the item thingies u get by gifting them?
brisk trail
yeah
midnight gazelle
and put it in #h1-story-discussion ;)
midnight cloak
directed at people here, is there anything that the community seems to want? That needs to be put togeather, so far a list of keepsakes is one
provided its cool with devs, i could create a wiki/website/google doc of compiled data
void vigil
kimo is working on the wiki right now
im sure help with it would be appreciated, its ~~https://hades.fandom.com/~~ ignore me, kimo linked the correct one below
midnight cloak
@brisk trail hit me up, im down to assist with the wiki
brisk trail
Other wiki haha
void vigil
also kimo
void vigil
theres more wikis????
void vigil
wow it look so good
tulip veldt
tfw there hasn't been a Hades patch in like 2 days :(
brisk trail
owned by @ionic stone he set it all up originally 😄
ionic stone
Hello
void vigil
you might wanna add pyre to the about hades section
i dont want it to be forgotten, its such a good game :((
ionic stone
I didn't include it because the devs left it out of the game description, and to my understanding it didn't really hold a candle to Bastion and Transistor
I haven't played Pyre though, that's just what I hear
void vigil
didnt hold a candle in what way? its just as good imo, just went under a lot of peoples radar
ionic stone
My friend who's a big Supergiant fan said it was alright
ionic stone
But again, I don't actually know, so I don't want to get into that. I can add it to the description.
void vigil
i played it when it came out and its the first sg games i was here for the release of, so im a bit defensive of it. it is really good tho, i feel like its worth mentioning
void vigil
also goes without saying but i recommend playing it if u havent yet :P
junior yacht
Oh yeah
ionic stone
I still need to play Bastion. Transistor was great and Hades certainly seems to be as well, and I've been meaning to try their other stuff at some point.
grand jewel
Pyre is probably my favorite
grand jewel
The story connected with me the most
grand jewel
Volfred best guy
prime harness
nothing beats the narration of bastion tho
grand jewel
That was one of its major selling pointd
prime harness
along with the music and art work and gameplay:p
grand jewel
Heh
midnight cloak
@brisk trail then with the gamepedia page, whichever is planning to be the active one
cedar hollow
wasnt for me. I remember just getting it in a humble bundle. Heard of it before, but nothing specific. But man they had a fan from day one
grand jewel
I wouldn't say gameplay really
brisk trail
We'd be glad to have you help out 😄
grand jewel
Bastion had good gameplay but I wouldn't say that it made it stand out
real narwhal
yeah true
grand jewel
The other parts did
prime harness
true but still its a complete package
real narwhal
bastion is what got me into indie games when i was a wee 12 year old
prime harness
dang makin me feel old buddy
real narwhal
lol sry
grand jewel
I bought bastion in grade school
cedar hollow
@prime harness lol same
midnight gazelle
wait when did bastion release
grand jewel
Because totalbiscuit recommended it
prime harness
allmost 30:p
midnight gazelle
only 7 years ago? i could´ve sworn these games were around for half my life
real narwhal
i remember wanting to write an essay about it at school after the ending, wat a nurd
cuz my mind was like "waiit u can do that in geimss???"
grand jewel
I set my sail~
real narwhal
donntttt 😭
midnight gazelle
brb i´ll cry again about transistor
grand jewel
Transistor's aesthetic was godly
junior yacht
God I need to finish bastion
grand jewel
Finish it!
junior yacht
Hahaha. Something happened, I cant remember what.
grand jewel
Not a long game
real narwhal
Cant wait to cry over Hades when its over
midnight gazelle
same
junior yacht
it was 2011?
grand jewel
No stop we're so far from hades ending
real narwhal
oh oh
brisk trail
So they have a background and are cut off
real narwhal
fight the gud fight kimo
brisk trail
😩
Man ive taken wikis for granted
Anytime I wanted to know something about a game I would search it up and find it on a wiki
But I cant do that for this game, gotta make it ourselves
ionic stone
The struggle
midnight cloak
which parts are you working on?
rephrasing, what part do you want me to tackle/ what still needs to be done
signal spoke
I’d love to help as well if you need any
brisk trail
I'm not sure every character has their codex entries put in their page
buoyant plank
i am curious about what it means when you start a run and hades calles you different things, I think they say what kinds of runs they will be but I am not sure
midnight gazelle
pls give "10 modifier" runs 👀
lime hinge
WHO WANTS TO KNOW AN EXAMPLE OF THE PETTY STUFF THAT HADES HAS DONE IN MYTHOLOGY? 😄
coarse wedge
Me!
lime hinge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirithous Let me introduce you to the guy who tried to carry off Persephone after Hades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theseus#The_abduction_of_Persephone_and_encounter_with_Hades And his best friend.
He basically glued them to rocks.
steady plume
Didn't his best friend decide to kidnap helen of troy
lime hinge
And yes, it's the same Theseus that- yep!
Who dealt with the minotaur.
MYTHOLOGY: WHAT THE ACTUAL FU-[redacted]
ionic stone
Ancient mythology was weird.
lime hinge
Heck, modern mythology is weird.
ionic stone
Mythology is weird
steady plume
They wanted to marry daughters of Zeus and Theseus decided to go for helen of troy who was still a child and Pirthous decided to go for Persephone
lime hinge
One of my Indian friends on another server tells us stories of his faith.
brisk trail
Ancient mythologies are at least fun weird
ionic stone
Media interpretations modify or ignore parts so that it makes sense
brisk trail
Modern mythologies are just weird weird lol
lime hinge
Including the time a guy was dumb enough to backtalk his patron deity and his wife, not once, not twice, but three times.
ionic stone
I don't think actual Hades would tolerate actual Zagreus' tomfoolery.
brisk trail
I love how self assured Hades is in this game
He doesnt even care about Zag because he's so sure he wont even be able to escape
Just stop making the dog tear up the place dammit
lime hinge
tracks down the mythology thing
dense drum
about to buy Hades, anyone have a creator tag for me to plug
burnt pond
Dinosaurus!
midnight gazelle
heading off, gnight 
burnt pond
gnight
peak crest
is the mc voiced by the same dude who did Alucard?
atomic flame
The mysterious narrator in Hades is voiced by Logan Cunningham (the voice of Rucks in Bastion, the Transistor, and the Archjustice in Pyre)!
peak crest
whoa... that's some amazing talent
brisk trail
If James Callis ever stopped doing the Castlevania show Darren could take over and I wouldnt even notice a difference
atomic flame
MC as in main character! Silly me. Yeah, Zag is played by Darren Korb
brisk trail
Nice work on Orpheus too Michael!
atomic flame
Thank you! He is a blast to play.
signal spoke
I didnt know that!
thats so awesome
he sounds so gentle I can't wait to hear him jam out
grand jewel
Lament of Orpheus is a vocal track by Orpheus
brisk trail
It's so cool to me that members of the studio voice the characters
grand jewel
It's already on youtube if you want to listen to it.
(asdfghj voice acting is so coool)
signal spoke
IKR
peak crest
oh well then, whoops. But damn can't believe the composer does such an amazing job in voice acting too! this game is wild
signal spoke
Yea! And now that this game has probably the most dialogue of any supergiant game its so awesome to get to hear so much of it
grand jewel
(Meg ❤ )
peak crest
my friend thinks meg is the same voice actress that played meg in hercules and modernly known as Rose Quarts from steven universe
signal spoke
Not to mention it has such a wide variety of voices too
atomic flame
Meg is voiced by Avalon Penrose. She also released a music album that’s really good!
Here she is on the Gong Show!
signal spoke
Man idk if I could pick a favorite of mine. Everyone did an excellent job but I think the banter between Hypnos and Zag is top notch
peak crest
I'm honestly speechless. the talent from the devs and voice actors are mind blowing to me. Definitely going to buy it asap
brisk trail
Haha i've been plugging the game to all my friends
Just posting art from the game and waiting for them to ask what its from
😈
wooden lance
brisk trail
Would love to see a full VA cast list if such a thing exists
It does!
I'll transcribe right now
real narwhal
i still wanna see greg do the hypnos voice
drowsy karma
Damn, my first crash.
acoustic quail
are the locked gifts due to early access or do they unlock as the game progresses? (I can only give 2 gifts to each god right now)
drowsy karma
I assume so.
quiet jackal
early access
acoustic quail
ah sweet
drowsy karma
Awww, my whole run got erased from the crash, and i was at the second boss about to beat it.
quiet jackal
True shot with extra cast and 200% damage at 20%hp must most definitely be the strongest build
drowsy karma
I just ran with Ares' cast.
Homing, huge area.
No brainer as well.
Not as much dps for single-target though.
quiet jackal
I one-shot the hydra, I was surprised how broken it was
it didnt even have time to spawn other hydras
brisk trail
I’ve never had anything that broken
drowsy karma
Shhh, spoilers.
brisk trail
Most damaging run Ive ever had was something that allowed me to two hit the smaller heads
And woops
quiet jackal
6 extra shots per one cast, 600 damage each, I couldnt get a hold of the 200% damage boost from the skull ring though
it was actually insane
brisk trail
@brisk trail Thats the full cast as far as I know
quiet jackal
the skullring was active though, but didnt catch the damage output
drowsy karma
Most projectiles i had on Artemis is 4.
quiet jackal
I also had 10% extra crit chance, each of those shots have a chance to crit
real narwhal
how did darren do zag and skelly
brisk trail
Thats some range right there
quiet jackal
(I was lucky with upgrade boons)
brisk trail
Awesome, thanks!
real narwhal
also now thinking about the interactions between skelly and zag its kinda funny
brisk trail
talking to himself essentially haha
real narwhal
"hey boyo"
brisk trail
im gonna delete that actually
drowsy karma
WTB Tyche blessings xD
drowsy karma
Is there any blessings to improve Athena, Poseidon and Zeus' casts?
brisk trail
Zeus’ cast is improved by the Zeus boon that makes all your lighting effects jump more times
drowsy karma
Well thats not exactly cast upgrade.
Because Ares has boon to increase attack and cast damage.
drowsy karma
Same power level as Artemis and Ares?
brisk trail
You said Zeus’ cast
drowsy karma
Yeah.
I have not seen any of this three god's boons that directly upgrade their casts.
Like Artemis and Ares has.
Oh, Aphrodite too, haven't seen her's either.
brisk trail
Idk why you don’t count the Zeus one then, if you’re counting the ares one that also does attack damage
drowsy karma
Because its upgrade to his whole kit.
brisk trail
Weird question
steady plume
Maybe ask in the gameplay section?
drowsy karma
Like Ares' one to buff attack+cast damage.
Or Artemis' everything has chance to crit.
drowsy karma
I was asking if anyone seen this upgrades.
And i'm assuming not. Maybe not implemented yet, maybe not planned at all.
brisk trail
All the boon cast upgrades to different things
Zeus is a chain focused kit
So his cast will get chain abilities
He doesn’t want that answer lol
drowsy karma
Yyyyes, i know that. I consider it a "wholesome" upgrade, like Ares and Artemis ones.
But there is no boons that upgrade cast itself.
brisk trail
...?
brisk trail
That is upgrading the cast??
drowsy karma
Yes.
brisk trail
That’s not a relevant distinction though, if it’s upgraded to any degree along with anything else it’s a cast upgrade
No reason to make the separation
drowsy karma
I mean, i'm not exactly against the design, if it stays that way, this gods can just be more "cast-focused" than others, and it'll be fine. I was just wondering about other gods.
lean hedge
different gods have different focuses and i think its good that way
they encourage different builds by combining their unique properties with different weapons
brisk trail
The only answer is yes and it’s Zeus same with aphro, the weak one is upgraded by the ability that makes you do more damage to weakened opponents
Yeah
And Athena’s one is buffed by anything that buffs deflect
brisk trail
Do we know the exact stats for weak?
Ok I’m gonna drop this rn because clearly we’re on different wavelengths here
Cuz I gotta get on that on the wiki
Hmm yeah
drowsy karma
I was just asking if anyone seen upgrades for casts, is all.
drowsy karma
It seems 50% rounded up.
brisk trail
I assume it’s a set amount of damage reduction in attacks
drowsy karma
Like, brimstones still do 1 damage.
spare sierra
My monitor just died, so I can’t play anymore... nooooooooo!!!!!!!!
vagrant leaf
Hmm
did anyone already reported bug where you can heal yourself freely after fight with Meg by switching to Cerberus collar and back ?
drowsy karma
Most likely, people was talking about it.
vagrant leaf
ok
void vigil
yes
real narwhal
is that a bug, or tacticsss
real narwhal
its like u can use that one item that extends the time for the stuff u buy from the shop
so you can like equp it, buy stuff and then change
maybe u wont heal fully
drowsy karma
Hmmm.
lean hedge
yeah i mean since you cant ever use teh collars again after switching off them its kinda a #strat
drowsy karma
I wonder if it worth for Supergiants to spend some time to make another game mode, like, arena with infinite waves.
To add some replayability.
lean hedge
I don't think there are enough enemies for taht to be fun right now.
real narwhal
maybe thats what the other rooms are for???
drowsy karma
Well, you have the same amount of enemies in the campaing xD
vagrant leaf
@lean hedge You cant use it after switching ?
lean hedge
Plus, the way the blessings work arent very conducive to an endless mode honestly.
real narwhal
id play an arena for sure
drowsy karma
But it ends.
vagrant leaf
I was switchin back and forth freely
lean hedge
If you switch off of a relic and then leave the menu, you can't switch back to the relic you used.
real narwhal
doesnt have to be endless, just like a specific ammount of waves
lean hedge
It locks it temporarily
real narwhal
and you get random upgrades through each
drowsy karma
I mean, i imagine its pretty easy/quick to put together a mode like this, and it adds replayability, and easy to update over time.
lean hedge
Possibly a bug.
I don't know if a mode like that fit's the upgrade style that the game has - but I certainly am never against those sort of modes in games. God knows (hah) that a sort of gladiator arena is already rather fitting with the game's themes.
cedar hollow
I hope they add a daily run mode. But a battle arena does sound fun
devout plinth
I suspect replayability will get better as more content gets patched in, roguelikes kinda grow exponentially like that
lean hedge
very true
olive jungle
The cerberus collar exploit was patched
steady plume
It isn't
olive jungle
It is in my game
steady plume
It hasn't in mine
I was patched for my first attempt at it but then been able to still do it as long as I stay on the keepsake screen
vagrant leaf
I did it just now, and i've closed keepsake screen several times, and still was able to switch and get health
lean hedge
are you switching to the collar and then back before leaving the menu? or switch to collar, leave, switch back
olive jungle
ahh ok yeah
they just patched it if you close out i guess
but yes the bug has been reported multiple times haha
lean hedge
hah 😛
vagrant leaf
@lean hedge second
vagrant leaf
yeah
brisk trail
yeah
olive jungle
Like in Charon's article about leaving coins in the mouths of the dead
brisk trail
like mentioning ares has a more unruly combat style fits with both the lore and ares playstyle in game
steady plume
Yeah so we still missing Ares' Legendary boon description still right?
brisk trail
were missing most
right now we just have blade surge, curse of agony, and slicing shot
steady plume
AE had most of them locked down actually from his description
brisk trail
though I know AE is working on some others
steady plume
Sorry their description bad habit
drowsy karma
I have everyone maxed already xD
brisk trail
yeah i love how they included the coin in the mouth in the icon
drowsy karma
Except...
brisk trail
also
drowsy karma
Sisyphus.
brisk trail
is there an official way they reference currency in game?
drowsy karma
Just don't meet him for some reason.
brisk trail
gold? coins?
brisk trail
That's just the item that drops the money tho
steady plume
It is what the coins are called within descriptions
olive jungle
JUST trying to run into sisyphus
drowsy karma
Maybe?
drowsy karma
Not sure, then. I need 40 more to get more info xD
brisk trail
because calling urrency charons obol every time might feel a little awkard
or maybe just Obols
steady plume
I think it is shortened to Obols in descriptions if I remember correctly
void vigil
just obol would be fine I’m sure
olive jungle
The obol was a form of ancient Greek currency and weight.
void vigil
Or obols
drowsy karma
Yeap, seems legit.
olive jungle
According to Plutarch they were originally spits of copper or bronze traded by weight, while six obols make a drachma or a handful, since that was as many as the hand could grasp oh! makes sense.
six obols to a drachma
Charon's Obol, specifically, is the coin promised to Charon
the one placed under the tongues of the dead
drowsy karma
Thats probably just more valuable one, thats why it gives more Obols?
west yarrow
is it just me or does this game feel like a beta not a early access
amber helm
It's probably the most polished early access game I've played
vagrant leaf
have you seen the version ?
amber helm
Maybe with Darkest Dungeon
vagrant leaf
Dead Cells was pretty good
vagrant leaf
Well it depends on what do you mean by beta and early access
for me its mostly the same
early access just sounds fancier
west yarrow
beta as in the main game loops are done and it has a fari amount of content. as fair as i know early access is for more early in development games
vagrant leaf
may be im dumb
amber helm
For me early access just means "continued development that you can play"
I'm no expert though
west yarrow
well early-access are manly used for alpha versions of the game. however, alpha is normally when i game is getting all the mechnics done (roughly) doesn't normally have art unless it is already made. i guess these days early-access is not that at all and more of title for gamers to be like "ok so this game will have more content in the future"
amber helm
I guess so
I really haven't had a lot of problems with the game so far and that's really cool ahah
west yarrow
that game play is very smooth for a beta too
yeah balance is probs one of the hardest things to do in games
vagrant leaf
everything else just feels so underpowered compared to shield's special
just effortless Q spam for the win
and dodging
bow and sword are at least fun, but spear i just cant stand
twin cloak
west yarrow
it's just prefrenance really
vagrant leaf
idunno may be am just lowskill scum and dont get it
west yarrow
i think the sword needs a hold ability
vagrant leaf
nah swor is fine
west yarrow
the sword is very basic compared to the other weapons
nova kestrel
sword is dull for me personally
west yarrow
i really like the swords buffs but the abilitys isn't much
west yarrow
the sword locks you in which can make you take dmg. the spear doesn't do that which is a good benifit
vagrant leaf
again, if you animation cancel it wouldnt lock you
west yarrow
but i lile the sword alot only because it have really interesting buffs
animation cancel? how?
steady plume
Might want to move this to gameplay guys
west yarrow
ok
steady plume
Easier to keep everything somewhat tidy
vagrant leaf
well i was able to cancel end of special with cast and when quickly dash away
mb its a bug idunno
west yarrow
lets move
winter river
man haven't been able to get Aphrodite and Ares buffs to spawn at all lately
I've had an ambrosia saved for each of them for like 10 escapes now
light fog
have you tried the Aphro item?
light fog
When I want a specific God I tend to just grab the item and it pops up first.
steady plume
RIP
winter river
ya, I don't have it yet
winter river
ya, no kidding
steady plume
Well I wish you luck
winter river
I wonder if we're getting the other olympians later
Apollo, Hecate, Hermes, Dyonises would all be fun I think
Not sure what powers Demeter and Hera would grant
quick sable
ares legendary = OP
light fog
ares = OP
though... in a game about murdering your way through Hell... I mean he should be
real narwhal
never got a legendary
vale kite
They can appear when you get at least 2 boons from one god
real narwhal
oh oh i didnt know
lusty raptor
am i the only one who cant get my ps4 controller to work in this game?
steady plume
Try Tech support/tech Fixes channels
light fog
@brisk sluice totally agree with your feedback <@&456908176877551658> Witches over Lava basically end Sword Runs.
olive jungle
you don't need to at us for that bro, we can't do anything about it
light fog
maybe I should of just left that as additional #hades-feedback-closed
brisk sluice
ah thank you! i just had a run ended by a room like that so i was feels bad man :'(
yeah i just asked today about duplicate feedback, if we can help it they want us to only send in things the once
we only just learnt that recently tho so i imagine most ppl wont know yet lmao
olive jungle
yeah, i'm gonna spam the doc until a dev wakes up and pins it haha
light fog
I've been on this server for less than an hour
olive jungle
yeah that's cool, just letting you know!
light fog
Ok, sorry again.
olive jungle
np np
if you have feedback for the game or something you can use the form. we moderators are just that - moderators. we're not involved in the dev process or anything, we just handle chat-side stuff, haha
at least, we're not any more involved than y'all are
light fog
just realized that and I'm sad. ha ha ha!
olive jungle
Welcome to the server!
light fog
Thanks!
dusky ivy
what accent is darren supposed to be?
olive jungle
what like irl?
olive jungle
as...zag, presumably?
dusky ivy
ye
olive jungle
i think some people have pinned it as australian
dusky ivy
jesus
olive jungle
but imo it's just like the
generic kind of
"we're speaking another language in a long-ago setting and want to sound vaguely ~historical~" accent
olive jungle
there was another aussie in here a week or so ago saying it was "pretty clearly aussie" lol
brisk trail
Dusa is best waifu, facts
olive jungle
i'm american tho so i'm not in a place to judge
sorry that was actually fine but the cursebot doesn't like that word
we're.
trying to work around that.
dusky ivy
kk
olive jungle
you can't say c ocky or anything similar in here because the uhhh less savory version is in proxybot's filter
light fog
ahhh gotcha
light fog
like... would it catch assets or something like that?
brisk trail
he sounds like what i would assume a posh aussie to sound like
olive jungle
yeah. like i said i think it's just the kinda generic "fantasy" accent
with an aussie twist haha
dusky ivy
if the characters sounded like the pyre people
light fog
Did anybody think the shades talking about their cause of death was like a Souls-Esque feedback of other players dying at first?
elder flax
when I first saw in-game footage of the shades, that's what I thought they were
scarlet wolf
@light fog when does the cast ammo come back exactly?
brisk trail
I think Zag's "mate" is more British than Australian. He doesn't use any notable "aussi" inflection and I don't remember him using any phrases or idioms that are clearly Australian. "Mate" is pretty wide-spread in the commonwealth countries
olive jungle
when you leave the room
brisk trail
yeah he doesnt have any aussie inflections, plus he still pronounces some words in the american way, as opposed to the british/aussie way
I like the accent, it aint greek but none of them are so its all good haha
just get an ancient greek on the phone who knows english, could be historically accurate
peak crest
Zag is best husbando. fight me
brisk trail
played god of war 3 on the greek dub once, that was pretty great haha
light fog
trying to screenshot with prnsrc and it keeps posting a room I'm not in.
olive jungle
screenshot doesn't work right
the devs are working on it; try a third-party program like fraps for now!
quick cedar
Think Nvidia has something for it
It's called Ansel something I think?
Dunno the details of that though
alpine stratus
down under
brisk trail
yeah he has that british accent that a lot of americans think sounds australian
i've seen it a lot from following a lot of americans over the internet haha 😛
light fog
anybody else occassionally have problems talking to Charon?
olive jungle
yeah; i kinda thought he was just Like That, i guess?
light fog
I mean like legit the Talk option isn't there occassionally.
Though... when you do talk to him, Zag's responses are adorbs
amber helm
Have you hit Charon before talking?
Because I think it removes the Talk option
Not sure though
steady plume
That might be it
unborn notch
I was just thinking some days they don't have anything to say. To mix it up. 
steady plume
Might have accidentally hit him with a dash upgrade when approaching him
unborn notch
Nah, just plain walking around. I've encountered most of the characters not have anything to say at some point.
slender linden
i dont think attacking him turns it off
unless you try to talk directly after you hit him
source: i just did that, had to wait for a moment but the talk option came back xD
so might be a cooldown thing
or maybe they're just not feeling chatty ¯_(ツ)_/¯
unborn notch
I wonder if it's like when one of them is just away, and the sprite is still there 
but yeah, I'm with you, Risu
slender linden
i had a weird thing happen too, i dunno if it's intentional. Achilles was talking with Orpheus and when they were done, i could still talk to Achilles again like he was alone o.o
and what i skimmed here earlier, Zag definitely strikes me as lowkey british in tone
unborn notch
feedback maybe? 
slender linden
¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent tapir
gaunt bane
ping whomst
brisk trail
hi guys, anyone have some site with all god boons?
olive jungle
https://hades.gamepedia.com
is working on it
there's some info on the other wiki too
drowsy karma
Damn this new xbox controller feels weird.
brisk trail
nice, thanks
slender linden
@light fog do you remember if that was the shop before Meg by any chance? cause i couldnt talk to him too just now
north tangle
is there a date release?
slender linden
in like a year or something
olive jungle
@north tangle No, there's no solid release date. The game will be in early access for at least another year and maybe more.
north tangle
@olive jungle just cant wait to play a full game 😦
drowsy karma
Whatever is here already worth 20$.
olive jungle
Yeah, well. If they hadn't have announced EA, we'd just still be talking about Pyre right now
It's totally understandable if you want to wait for the full game; I'm honestly really excited for the early access experience, getting to watch it grow and be a part of its development
drowsy karma
I love seeing spoilers, especially when it spoilers, and then spoilers!
brisk trail
my favourite bit was when spoilers spoilered spoilers
subtle notch
Some people were disappointed about all the robed faceless characters, while I'm here like, super excited about their final designs
I guess early access isn't for everybody
drowsy karma
I didn't really realize it is a EA concept.