#h1-discussion

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signal spoke
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well she just might in the next story expansion

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but thats a whole other discussion

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i kinda like nyx! She is nice to me

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but the darkness stuff creeps me out a bit

brisk trail
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Hades Needs Moms

signal spoke
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^

rose hedge
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But too be vaguely mysterious is a dislike is a no no in my books

signal spoke
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yea thats understandable

rose hedge
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But yea i hope everyone is having a great time with the game

signal spoke
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i just love everybody in the house of hades

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never thought hell could be so wholesome

rose hedge
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Yea me too

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And also hades is the BOI meme from god of war

brisk trail
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thats something i always liked about hades opposed to hell

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its not particularly a place where evil people go when they die

rose hedge
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Yea

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Thats why in a sense of religion of not Christian belief where it seems not so bad if you didn't do anything wrong

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Like most of the time i see the sprits they diead of old age

brisk trail
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lol

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that reminds me of norse Hel

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a lot of old people get sent there because they didnt die an honorable death

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but im getting off track here

rose hedge
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Yea theirs two types of hel in norse myth

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Theirs one for normal people and one for warrior's and kings

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I could be wrong tho

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Cause its hard for norse myth to be 100 fact

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So you always have to take it with a grain of salt

brisk trail
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Hel is like, typical underworld

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And then there are the great halls Valhalla, and another one I cant remember the name of

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The great halls are the ones people who died an honorable death go to

rose hedge
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Yea

brisk trail
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Anywho

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Wonder what iconic greek monsters we can expect to see

rose hedge
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Aphrodite is T H I C C

brisk trail
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Kraken

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minotaur

rose hedge
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I hope so

brisk trail
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chimera too

rose hedge
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For the minotaur

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And maybe a cyclops

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As a mini boss encounter

spring cipher
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The other 2 furies

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for sure

midnight bay
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I’m thinking we’ll run into typhon

brisk trail
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Curious

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Is the next content update thing (30 days or so) the next major patch, or the next patch in general

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oh god

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typhon is literally impossible to depict visual without making him much less cool haha

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would still love to see it though

signal spoke
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next major patch. they make smaller patches frequently

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one just came out yesterday

brisk trail
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That's good to hear

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i'd definitely say minotaur, cyclops and chimera

signal spoke
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in fact I think it actually fixed a bug I was trying to replicate xD so its going well

brisk trail
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those seem like safe bets

lethal otter
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Major patchs include new content and such, minor ones are just for balance and bug fixing

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I wonder how many more areas there will be

signal spoke
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same im curious as well

brisk trail
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Hmm

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any other monsters?

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oh

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harpies

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idk if theyre already in the game im not to to far

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hmm yeah

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maybe an enemy gorgon

rose hedge
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Or an actual medusa

brisk trail
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medusa is a gorgon

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there were three of them

rose hedge
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Ah sorry i don't know much of greek stuff

brisk trail
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all good haha

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Medusa, whose gaze could turn anyone to stone.
Stheno, most murderous of the sisters.
Euryale, whose scream could kill.

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they knew

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the greeks were setting their myths up as video games enemies

spice cliff
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does the "next boon" effect of the god keepsakes only affect the beginning of the run, or does it refresh after each section when you get to switch keepsakes?

burnt pond
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if you switch to a new one

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it will work

rose hedge
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Or you could have two perks at a time

brisk trail
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were gonna kill dusas sisters

burnt pond
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heck yeah brother

brisk trail
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also we could see a griffon? Or a Hippogriff, Manticore, a satyr or any of those other multiple animal in one types

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definitely some of those

burnt pond
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its somewhat more unlikely than if they had went with the original Labyrinth theme

brisk trail
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scyla

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scylla?

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not sure how you spell it

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would be cool to see sirens as well, and nymphs

burnt pond
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since we are in Hades it limits the amount of creatures that will show up

brisk trail
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not really haha

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Hades has to call in professionals to take care of his son

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most of what we've seen isnt exactly hades related that much in terms of enemies

burnt pond
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Well its dead enemies yknow

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dead witches n stuff

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and then literal skeletons

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not to say we still couldnt

brisk trail
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i dont think the hydra was every explicitly stated to be part of hades

burnt pond
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but it depends on how they will portray elysium

brisk trail
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so i think that shows our options arent limited

olive jungle
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i thought the implication was they were mostly ghosts and such

brisk trail
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and im okay with them breaking the lore a bit if it means we get more enemy variety

olive jungle
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that's what the codexes say

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codices

burnt pond
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Yeah

olive jungle
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for the pedants out there

brisk trail
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enemy variety is one of the most important things in a game for me

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especially rogeulikes

burnt pond
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So like

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Hercules murdered the hydra

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Maybe?

olive jungle
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the hydra is dead

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yeah

burnt pond
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he sealed the body

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but if its DEAD dead

brisk trail
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if im gonna be repeating the same thing over and over i dont wanna see the same enemis over and over

burnt pond
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then we MIGHT be seeing it

brisk trail
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honestly uou shouldnt worry about the lore

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as its clearly not meant to be accurate but a supergiant spin on it

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so I think its pretty much anything goes if they can think of a reason for it

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im okay with them doing their own thing

burnt pond
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I mean yeah, but from what I kinda get from it it almost seems like they have the starting point

brisk trail
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mythos can have a lot of dumb stuff

burnt pond
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and then they expand past it

spice cliff
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I get the impression that as long as it fits within the general framework of greek mythology, perfect accuracy is probably going to take a backseat to enjoyable gameplay and mechanics

brisk trail
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the hydra is a bone hydra, so its sort of like "undead" I guess

burnt pond
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like we already have dusa dead in this

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wait we do have a hydra im dumb

brisk trail
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is dusa dead?

burnt pond
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yeah killed by perseus

brisk trail
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i thought she was just there

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I don tthink so

burnt pond
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medusa the gorgon was

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thats hwy shes around yknow

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in hades

rose hedge
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And also didn't Hercules kill those monsters?

brisk trail
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a lot of the rest of the household isnt dead

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hercules killed hydra

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perseus killed medusa

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iirc

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but i guess if she is actually medusa and not just a meme name reference haha

burnt pond
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correct kimo

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a lot of the house hold might not be dead

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but they are already chthonic deities

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like achilles, a human warrior

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deadzo

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hypnos? not dead

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meg, not really dead

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umm

brisk trail
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yeah and monsters dont go to the same place as people either I think

acoustic juniper
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the game is pretty fun, i thought it would be more annoying with the constant dying but with the way the story kinda continues with it its pretty cool.

brisk trail
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meg is one of the most different from the source material, which is fine

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cos she is doink

burnt pond
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Well my boy Z says stuff like "You want to kill you again?"

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so i think the monsters we kill are the same as us

acoustic juniper
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i think using the shield with a few of the dashing abilities is kinda cheese though

burnt pond
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they are made to come back and keep roaming tartarus

acoustic juniper
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like zeus lighting can quicker recharge on shield

brisk trail
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rougelites are all about the cheese tbh

acoustic juniper
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first rougelite so i wouldnt know any better

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be cool if you could have two weapons for strategy though

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the ammo magic to me feels kinda week, since the best way to kill is to hit them into a wall

midnight bay
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Casting is broken with the right boons

brisk trail
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two weapons would be too much

acoustic juniper
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you think so?

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just add a delay for switching, dash has a delay.

brisk trail
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they'd need to gut them all and rejig the mechanics to make two weapons the default

acoustic juniper
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sigh, i guess

brisk trail
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boons wouldnt work well with it either

midnight bay
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Yeah as the game is right now it’s kinda balanced around certain weapons being better in certain situations while worse in others

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That too yeah

acoustic juniper
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is there a better way to use the magic ammo stuff though or am i right

brisk trail
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wall isnt always the best way

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casting can be insane with some upgrades

midnight bay
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Artemis cast is downright absurd with the right boons

brisk trail
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posidon can be amazing aoe too

plain musk
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And Zeus chaining

brisk trail
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had it doing like 190 damage to everything in a massive area

plain musk
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Base cast is pretty weak yeah

brisk trail
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so good at dealing with those dumb skulls

plain musk
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But the boons can be great

acoustic juniper
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zeus lighting and dash for me is the best, hard to hit and fast

plain musk
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Yeah, that's his best boon

brisk trail
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aphro is the only better one imo, espcecially if you have the do more damage to weakened enemies

plain musk
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But you can have his boon one more than 1 thing

midnight bay
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Artemis cast with proper luck can one-shot most everything that currently exists in the game

acoustic juniper
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can someone explain the heart mechanic when you are in the hub world. i get that you get gifts from them if you give them a gift but do the more heart they have for you mean anything?

midnight bay
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Well, technically it’s multiple hits but whatever

plain musk
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I'd rank Athena, Zeus and Aphro dash boons to be roughly equal

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With Artemis being maybe the best boon for spear

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Since that crit on spear special is really nice

midnight bay
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I’ve never actually taken Athena dash come to think of it

brisk trail
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its nice on everything lol

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especially power shot on the bow

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so much single target damage

plain musk
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mhm

coarse vapor
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Athena dash is really useful against witches and bombers

midnight bay
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Yeah Artemis dash crit is nutty with bow

brisk trail
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god i hate those bombers haha

plain musk
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Deflecting bombs back is so satisfying

brisk trail
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always hiding in corners

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oh i mean the little pots lol

acoustic juniper
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the fat guys are the worst

plain musk
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Oh those guys are so annoying

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The thiefs

coarse vapor
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yeah, the pots, i believe, are wretched thieves or something like that

plain musk
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mhm

coarse vapor
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with that said, you can use epic Zeus dash as your primary source of damage

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definitely up until hydra at least

plain musk
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Yeah

lethal otter
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My first hydra kill was with Zeus dash

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Just upgrade it a bunch and take the keepsake that lets you dash though enemies.

coarse vapor
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Which one is that? I believe there's one that lets you walk through enemies, but I assumed that you can dash through enemies by default

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also, I'm pretty sure you can even dash through walls

signal spoke
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you can yea

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they probly mean the nyx keepsake

plain musk
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Yeah'

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Certain enemies will block your dash

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Like the Hydra

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Nyx allows you to dash through those enemies

coarse vapor
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oh, cool

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didn't know that

spice cliff
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artemis dash makes dash-attack bow stupid good

coarse vapor
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I guess the game treats hydra as a big piece of furniture as well as an enemy

spice cliff
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oh sure, I'll take a 250% damage boost when I power attack after a dash! why not?

coarse vapor
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Eh, I had some trouble getting used to artemis dash / attack with bow

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especially when you actually dodge an attack by dashing and game enters bullet time for a moment

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really hard to get your charged shot timing right

spring cipher
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ARTEMIS IS BROKE AF

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ASDJASLKDJJKLSAD

coarse vapor
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needs better picture though

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I mean, what's up with all these people wearing the same kind of wavy cloak - Charon, Artemis, Sysiphus...

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Orpheus, too

grand jewel
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at least some of the art is placeholder, i think

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ares is quite noticeable

worn ferry
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Yeah I think most of the cloaked figures are placeholder

midnight bay
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yeah, they are placeholder art pieces

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confirmed in the FAQ

graceful badger
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Just finished the early access! Thanks to Aphrodite OP Boons!

karmic basalt
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is the max number of hearts you can have 75?

steady plume
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Health?

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in general?

karmic basalt
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yeah

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O hi stray :p

steady plume
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Hi sven

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Nah just depends on how many hearts you find in a run

karmic basalt
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oops then I should have reported a bug a while ago ig
I think I got two centaur hearts but it stayed at 75

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don't remember when it happened 😂

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ty 🙏

turbid jolt
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Is there a wiki up for this game yet

hexed smelt
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there is but it’s a little bare-bones atm

turbid jolt
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Could you link me please so i can bookmark for later, googling it doesn't give much since the name is rather.... common.

hexed smelt
turbid jolt
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Tyvm

brisk trail
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Bought the game yesterday and I've had tons of fun so far. Made it to Hydra this morning but got absolutely demolished :<

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dangit the epic launcher wont sign me in

charred yoke
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lol

mortal dome
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Does the game end after asphodel curerently?

alpine silo
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Ask this in spoiler channel

vale kite
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That one garmfield video but with zag and hades

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"Jumping through the window as usual" "I escape hell father, its what i do"

elder kraken
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almost made it to boss in asphodel 😦 so close!!!

glass nacelle
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Hello dusa

spring cipher
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OMl

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when was this added

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it gives me happiness

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lmfao

lethal otter
glass nacelle
brazen lake
celest wind
cloud stirrup
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Excuses in advance, but: are there Ashley and Darren in OST?

olive jungle
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Darren for sure

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Ashley is listed in special thanks

plain musk
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Ashley will almost certainly show up in some of the songs at a later date

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If not we'll all riot

cloud stirrup
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They are already there (on youtube) or will apear in game/ost later?

plain musk
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Darren composed the songs

cloud stirrup
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Asking in case of spoilers in OST XD

plain musk
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The music is porbably not all done yet

cloud stirrup
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As I met with Pyre (my fault, but still)

plain musk
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The full OST isn't out yet

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And I haven't heard any music with speaking parts yet, so being spoiled isn't an issue as of right now

cloud stirrup
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Got it, thank you!

untold blade
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Have y'all ever played Herc's Adventures?

brazen lake
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the most mythologically accurate game tbh

tall halo
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I have some speculations when it comes to Ashley. I don't know if speculation is right word for that though. It's more of a hope than speculation right now
Also Lament of Orpheus has vocals, if that's what you mean by speaking parts in song, but there are no spoilers in it as far as I know

gray tree
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Well, they did change Pyre OST to contain the most spoiler-less versions of the lyrics on youtube

hushed fiber
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what happens when you give the npcs more than one gift?

olive jungle
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it makes them like you more and will eventually trigger additional conversations for some of them

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some of them don't have all that dialogue/progression written yet though

rose hedge
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Thought so

snow sail
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dusa best grill

vale kite
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Skelly best boy

brisk trail
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Meg best girl and I will die on this hill haha

vale kite
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You are valid

alpine silo
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Is there any point to all the ghost rambling?

brazen lake
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athena is a high quality gril

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and i am willing to quarrel on this quarry

brisk trail
midnight gazelle
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morning everyone dusa

cloud stirrup
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3 PM XD

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Morning)

bleak adder
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zagreus is my boyfriend

midnight gazelle
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in Tartarus it should be around that too! Eu after all dusa

hollow heron
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Nah there's no time there

rose hedge
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Its 11:24pm at my end

slender monolith
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Howdy Y'all

rose hedge
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Howdy patner

hollow heron
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Fellow Aussie?

brisk trail
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oi oi oi

slender monolith
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Nah

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:3

rose hedge
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Yea im aussie

slender monolith
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Ye

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nice :3

vale kite
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there's no concept of breakfast, lunch or dinner in tartarus

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it's just Meal

alpine stratus
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brunch

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linner

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dinfast

cobalt token
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Brunch is a real thing though

void vigil
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so is dinfast if you believe

alpine stratus
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and thank goodness for it

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HFHFHG

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@vestal lodge you need to know my phone tried to fill in "thank goodness for morgan" here

hollow heron
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Dinfast is just a speedrunner eating dinner during a 30 second cutscene

alpine stratus
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dinfast is when its 3am and youre Hungy

void vigil
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It’s me sneaking into the kitchen to eat an absurd amount of fruit at 3 AM

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YEAH

alpine stratus
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SAME 3AM......ITS THE UNKVERSAL DINFAST HOUR

hollow heron
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I actually have a sleep schedule so I'm never awake at 3am unless I'm sick

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I've never had a midnight snack tbh

olive jungle
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@small nest Yes, currently the game is only available through Epic.

small nest
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awh, I'll have to wait a bit then :( thank you

timber eagle
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👌

vital pier
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3AM is the perfect time to have a krabby patty

vale kite
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I havent watched spongebob but meg has some squidward vibes

real narwhal
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lool

brisk trail
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Wow I uninstalled he epic launcher temporarily because it wasn’t working and it automatically deleted the jades game files too without telling me so uh

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Watch out for that one

real narwhal
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Jades is my new favorite SSG game

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Hopefully it didn't delete the save files

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cuz no cloud

void vigil
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jades......

olive jungle
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Hades Wiki

Cerberus is a massive three-headed dog, charged with guarding the gates of the Underworld to prevent the dead from escaping. He is a household pet and companion for Hades and Zagreus, and he is a...

gritty roost
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Any Hades fanart around? Dusa is just crying out to be my new favourite meme!

void vigil
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can I provide constructive criticism ven

olive jungle
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check #fan-works

void vigil
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In #fan-works !

olive jungle
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and yes you may

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gdjfhgdfj alma

void vigil
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ok so basically. I’m fanworks

olive jungle
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we have matching shirts that say "check fan-works" and "i'm fan-works"

void vigil
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ok here it goes. It should say very very very good boy

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one for each head

olive jungle
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oh my god you're right

real narwhal
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you guys are genius

olive jungle
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it's done

void vigil
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yes......

olive jungle
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I'm out of time for tonight but the wiki's up from like...10 pages to 19, all with codex text and images

alpine stratus
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👏 👏 👏 NICE

glad fossil
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Thank you very much. I'm going to check that tonight 👍

olive jungle
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some of the boon charts are missing but i didn't make those in the first place lol

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i have screencaps of all the enemies and items in the codex too that I'll........get around to. someday

real narwhal
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u mods are nais gais

proud sinew
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Is it just me or does Zag sound like Trevor Belmont

grand jewel
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not just you

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i thought they had trevor's VA until they announced it was darren

bleak lance
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tfw you have 500+ obol

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and you want to spend it all on that one particular item

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but an armored skelly just boops you.

void vigil
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i know the feel all too well 😔

brisk trail
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damn armoured skellies

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they attack so quick

void vigil
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it just didnt spawn for me for the longest time

brisk trail
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and turn on a dime haha

void vigil
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coinpurse and deep pockets sure do help tho

bleak lance
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Did it without both of those even, so slightly salty about it. Ah well, another run.

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In the meantime I got the rose to remind myself.

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Do any of you know whether the Coronacht(Bow) has a life regain ability like the sword on thrust?

grand jewel
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the only HP regen thing i've seen is the one on the sword

bleak lance
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I feel the sword has the least interesting moveset, significantly prefer the others over it.

real rampart
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I haven't played with it much, how does the regen ability work? Cos that sounds very interesting 😮

copper bough
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i think sword can work well with hyperchop and certain zeus+athena boons

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but it won't be a spear-level cakewalk

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regen is on every thrust i think?

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not as good as you would think

real rampart
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Hmm, alright, thanks.

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Currently trying to get used to the bow still. Just hasn't clicked yet, but hey.

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I still can't decide if Dusa being so moe is annoying or not.

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oh my god, Moedusa

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is that intentional

alpine stratus
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maid dusa

void vigil
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i have no idea what moe means to be honest

alpine stratus
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like anime cutesy

void vigil
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shes just shy i like her

real rampart
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esp. when they have a big ol' stuttering crush on the protagonist

void vigil
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ok but have u looked at him, who wouldnt

hexed smelt
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i mean, fair

real rampart
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she can't have him he's mine

brisk trail
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Zag just said "I feel fabulous". Sry but his ship now is Achilles.

cobalt token
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I like that the representation of medusa in this game has her being constantly petrified when she sees you rather than the other way around

hexed smelt
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bold of you to assume there was a point where i didn’t ship that

void vigil
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it always was!

vale kite
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the wiki says there's a total of -1 editors

olive jungle
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Huh, it said 7 earlier

alpine stratus
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unfortunately the negative eighth editor showed up and now you owe one editor

brisk trail
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I gotta get around to adding info boxes to the wiki

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uh

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whats aphrodiotes relation to zagreus?

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cousin?

covert glen
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aunt

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aphrodite is an OOOLLLDD deity

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time of titans deity iirc

brisk trail
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Ah nice

covert glen
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she was also a warrior goddess in sparta

brisk trail
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Just adding all the relatives to the wiki

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wew

covert glen
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and yes her birth is weird

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v weird

brisk trail
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So is Aphrodite Hades sister?

alpine stratus
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i think the sibs are aphrodite, zeus, hades, right?

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just from whos said what in game idk myths

brisk trail
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poseidon

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too

alpine stratus
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and hades called hypnos zag's brother

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oh!

brisk trail
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Hypnos is Nyx son iirc

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And nyx was kinda like a de facto mother to Zag

alpine stratus
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nyx+hades i assume? so theyd share a father by blood

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i can only assume hypnos gets his being super annoying from his dad

brisk trail
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I dont think Hades is his father

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Moreso just like, brothers because theyve lived together and were raised by the same person

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Wiki says Hypnos father is Erebus the god of darkness

alpine stratus
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ohhhh

midnight bay
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It’s weird because aphrodite is technically the daughter of Uranus

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Which would make her Zagreus’s great aunt

molten rampart
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I'v seen some pictures from my friend which describe the relationship of greek gods.

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And it is really a complex network…

cerulean urchin
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I mean it's pretty simple

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Did it breath?

molten rampart
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Trying to find these pictures but they are not in English version.

brisk trail
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God I wanna post that Zeus meme so bad right now but I can’t

alpine stratus
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thank you for your restraint 🙏 hgjhghj

red coral
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There are six gods descended from the Chronus and Rhea, the titans. They're Zeus, Hera, Hades, Poseidon, Hestia, and Demeter. Aphrodite is generally assumed to either be born from seafoam, or a descendant of Zeus. Hope that's helpful!

brisk trail
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That’s very helpful

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For now, I’ll leave her off the relatives lost haha

red coral
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Probably a good idea haha, she is a tricky one

brisk trail
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Until supergiant maybe confirms a family tree or something of the sort

molten rampart
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a big tangled family tree😂

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I think they will simplify their relationship

quick cedar
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What was Hypnos' job again?

#

Other than uh, making people sleep

red coral
#

His job in myth or in game?

quick cedar
#

I'll take both

red coral
#

hmmmmm

#

I can't say for in-game but honestly he really was the sleepytime god

alpine stratus
#

hfhfhj the sleepytime tea but its hypnos on the cover

hexed smelt
#

in the game his job seems to be seeing to the shades lined up in front of hades

quick cedar
#

I guess he was a bit of a jester in the Trojan war

hexed smelt
#

his clipboard has people’s cause of death written on it

quick cedar
#

Did some trickery on Zeus that the latter never found out

brisk trail
#

Hypnos is basically the April Ludgate to hades Ron Swanson

red coral
#

The best assistant because they get nothing done

vale kite
#

his job is sleeping on the job

signal spoke
#

Not sleeping!

#

..just resting his eyes

#

Don’t tell Hades

molten rampart
#

😂

sudden zinc
#

hypnos os my beautiful son

vale kite
sudden zinc
#

i say that cause I am hypersomniac

#

truly the best advice

#

zag is the college kid inside all of ud

vale kite
sudden zinc
#

smack guys against wall works everywhere in life

#

sports, romance, fighting to death

vale kite
#

dsjhfjshg i just thought of something

#

zag: i-

signal spoke
#

DONT TEST ME BOY

sudden zinc
#

hades likes one (1) Olympic god and its dionysus cause he brings him vodka

#

also dhshsbabsbsbsb

#

Oh I really want transfer student gods from other religions

quick cedar
#

Just imagine some Norse asking Zag why is he not wearing armor during combat

sudden zinc
#

thor: why do you fight shirtless little man
zag: i am a demigod, I do not need armour

potent tapir
#

btw what does zag do with those centaur hearts

#

does he just eat them raw

sudden zinc
#

slurp slurp

signal spoke
#

Puts them in his chest

molten rampart
#

because cerberus on his shoulder?

brisk trail
#

is zag a demi god?

#

i thought he was a full god

vale kite
#

aphrodite calls him godling

sudden zinc
#

uhm maybe

#

he is a god then probably

brisk trail
#

im not too far

sudden zinc
#

sorry physics are messing up my thought process

brisk trail
#

so i may be treading into spoiler territory

#

because i dont know who his mother is

vale kite
#

mild spoilers yes

sudden zinc
#

winks mysteriously then

#

have zag meet anubis! anubis who converses with cerberus

molten rampart
#

Dionysus is a demigod

vale kite
#

cerberus is lonely because all dogs go to heaven

signal spoke
#

:(

#

My day is ruined

vale kite
#

i aim to please

signal spoke
#

Lol

sudden zinc
#

its fine......... he has zag at least...... wait... :(

vale kite
#

he'll catch up with zag just before reaching the surface

#

... as zag's final obstacle

sudden zinc
#

nooooooooo

#

I cant believe I will never win the game

hasty frost
#

Wait Dionysus is a demigod??

#

I thought he was a god god

molten rampart
#

cerberus is in the house of hades but what’s on Zag’s shoulder?volfredthink not serious

vale kite
#

though tbh i hope i dont need to fight cerberus to escape

brisk trail
#

Hades will probably pit you against him

#

😩

hasty frost
#

belgo nO 😭

brisk trail
#

Im not gonna be ready for that feels trip

vale kite
#

like MAYBE he'll appear as a boss but like. have the option to just get past him peacefully

#

somehow

#

or just don't meet him at all

molten rampart
#

I remember he is the son of Zeus and a human princess?

sudden zinc
#

ok so dionysus actually has

#

two moms

#

cause he was originally torn apart by titans

molten rampart
#

And he is another Zag.

sudden zinc
#

as he was growing up except for his heart

brisk trail
#

Zagreus was killed by titans

#

And Zeus put Zags heart in a women who gave birth to Dionysus with it

sudden zinc
#

hmmmmm

#

Oh god

brisk trail
#

Not sure if that woman was a god or not

sudden zinc
#

my theory machine

#

she wasnt

#

cause hera

#

did the thing

#

again

brisk trail
#

But Zagreus was originally born to Persephone and Zeus

vale kite
#

sgg was brave enough to dip into greek mythology and now they must pay the price

brisk trail
#

lmao

molten rampart
#

Can it be the ending of the game?😭

brisk trail
#

I'm fine with them doing whatever they want with the mythos

#

Greek mythos is reaaal messed up

#

So they can mold it to their preferences

lime hinge
#

Yeah, Greek mythology is frigging bonkers.

molten rampart
#

Zag‘s body died but he revive

vale kite
#

at least they got it down

hasty frost
#

wtf

lime hinge
#

As a note, Dionysus's mother was Semele.

#

And yes, was mortal.

brisk trail
lime hinge
#

She died because Hera gave her the idea to ask to see Zeus in his full glory.

#

And it reduced her to cinders, so he had to put the not quite born child in his thigh for a while.

hasty frost
#

hh

#

What

vale kite
lime hinge
#

Welcome to Greek mythology, it be whack.

#

Perseus was born because Zeus seduced an imprisoned princess in the form of a shower of gold.

vale kite
#

🙄

lime hinge
#

But mythology in general is weird.

#

Like, not just Greek. Norse mythology has not just Loki and the eight legged horse, but how Frey gave up his sword for a lady.

vale kite
#

you: explains whack greek mythology stuff

#

me: oh this sounds like gmod videos on crack

lime hinge
#

Hah!

#

Look, I was obsessed with mythology when I was little

#

Especially Greek.

vale kite
#

it's ok i think it's fascinating but in an undescribable way

hasty frost
#

as long as I get Dionysus and Apollo I’m happy ninoface

lime hinge
#

It took until my late teens to realize how NSFW and what the heck it can be.

vale kite
#

hades is going to be the veggietales of greek mythology

fiery pebble
#

If we get Dionysus, he better be sleeping in at least one of the boon dialogue boxes

lime hinge
#

... horsepucky.

#

With how much DEATH happens?

#

No, Titan Quest is the veggie tales of Greek mythology.

sudden zinc
#

I never learned about the amount of gay content until I was teen but I was always aware about how wild it was

lime hinge
#

Yeah, same here, Tina. But I was also reading children's books, which colors it.

sudden zinc
#

I have this super professional book by a professional dude that is like dictionary of all Greek myth name and i read like? All of it and was never bothered by the amount of of violence but he NEVER talked about lgbt stuff

lime hinge
#

Right?

sudden zinc
#

like he called Hyacinthos Apollo's best friend

lime hinge
#

... just guys being dudes.

hasty frost
#

JUST A COUPLE OF GUYS BEING DUDES

sudden zinc
#

I dont even remember ganymedes

hasty frost
#

Just a couple of dudes being GUYS

sudden zinc
#

but it was also very straight

hasty frost
#

Show me your [REDACTED] Patroclus

sudden zinc
#

show me your fighting skills patroclus haha were straight

hasty frost
#

xmajjahekjqjznsjdysnwbska

lime hinge
#

Oh God, I remember referring to Ganymede, I didn't question 'Zeus liking him so much he picked him up to be his cupbearer.'

sudden zinc
#

he carried those Plates well

#

Good posture

#

I need to reread the book but 8 have two books on evolution I wanted to read

#

I visceral remember one uuuh puzzle my classmates were doing on free class and they asked me about lover of Poseidon. And when I said I only remember his male lover name they just..... died.

molten rampart
#

I remember there was a korean animation about greek myth when I was a primary school student.

hasty frost
#

god

#

Tina that sounds like a Time

sudden zinc
#

I live in acutely homophobic part of conservatic country

molten rampart
#

I collected all of the comic series because I want the bonus washable tattoo.

lime hinge
#

Oh dear.

#

And was the tattoo worth it?

molten rampart
#

these tattoo are really beautiful

lime hinge
#

Nice!

molten rampart
#

they are symbol and figure of the god in the animation

#

and the most special thing is

#

when you spill water on the tattoo, it is white symbol of the god

lime hinge
#

Oh, neat!

molten rampart
#

But when the tattoo is dry, it is the figure of the god, the symbol will disappear

#

Magic tattoo

hasty frost
#

that sounds cool as heck!!

molten rampart
#

I still remember it for more than ten years!

lime hinge
#

Neat!

tulip locust
#

Considering there's a spoiler room, what specifically isn't allowed in this room?

vale kite
#

uuuuuh what do you mean

lime hinge
#

Probably plot related stuff?

vale kite
#

oh

#

thought you meant a room in the game

tulip locust
#

see I got this sudden urge to talk about how much I ship two characters

hasty frost
#

LOL

vale kite
#

yeah plot stuff goes in spoiler room

tulip locust
#

I mean it's juvenile but how can you not...

#

okay. 😛

vale kite
#

it's ok lmao

#

i literally made an entire chart

hasty frost
#

nice

tulip locust
#

I'm just scared to go there because I've only just beaten the first boss for the first time and I don't want the rest of the game spoiled.

vale kite
#

i mean it depends i guess

brisk trail
#

Achilles is a human right?

vale kite
#

if it's a spoiler character

hasty frost
#

It depends yea

brisk trail
#

not a demi god?

vale kite
#

achilles' a human

#

i think

hasty frost
#

I would say heart events shouldn’t be discussed here

lime hinge
#

Half nymph, but yes.

hasty frost
#

but like the two characters can be talked abt

tulip locust
#

Achilles is a human.

hasty frost
#

so long as like belgo said it’s not a spoiler character

lime hinge
#

His mother dipped him in the river Styx to ensure he would be safe, but couldn't fully dip him, hence his heel as weakness.

tulip locust
#

Died in The Iliad.

#

Defending Troy.

hasty frost
#

which so far is only [REDACTED]

lime hinge
#

Not defending.

vale kite
#

oh i remember that part with the styx

quick cedar
#

Bleeding to death from an arrow piercing your heel is one terrible way to go out

tulip locust
#

Is the first boss character a spoiler?

#

To mention?

lime hinge
#

Fighting Troy, he got killed by Hector, who was defending Troy.

hasty frost
#

I thought Achilles basically went in with intent to die bc Patroclus

#

Or avenge

tulip locust
#

@lime hinge high school was a few years ago okay

hasty frost
#

I think we’ve mentioned the first boss here before but idk

tulip locust
#

i'll just say i ship zag and the first boss

#

rofl

lime hinge
#

I am just pointing it out, no judgement.

#

@hasty frost you are correct.

tulip locust
#

Nah I appreciate it.

void vigil
tulip locust
#

Yes that was the discussion, mod. 😃

lime hinge
#

But yeah, Achilles was human, his mother a nymph Zeus made SURE married a human so she wouldn't have a baby that could be stronger than him.

void vigil
#

i know, ive been silently lurking :P just reminding you can just elaborate there instead of being vague here

tulip locust
#

I don't need to elaborate really. I just felt the urge to express it, lol.

hasty frost
#

that’s a mood

sudden zinc
#

he was killed by Paris actually

brisk trail
#

mmmmmmmmmmmm

#

just tried to walk onto one of the level transisitions in asphodel

sudden zinc
#

apollo guided his arrow

brisk trail
#

and the single tick of lava daamged killed me

#

gg no re

lime hinge
#

Oh, my mistake then. Did Hector kill Patrocles?

sudden zinc
#

Hector killed patroclus and achilles killed Hector and Paris killed achilles

#

idk how Paris died

#

he caused this whole mess and then was too much of a coward to fight or do anything

lime hinge
#

Yep, he just hid and canoodled.

sudden zinc
#

oddysey and Hector are the most sympathetic figures of trojan war

#

also the dudes who Helen was stolen from?

#

they got happy ending i think

brisk trail
#

fellas

#

whats the full name of the house again?

#

House of the Dead?

vale kite
#

house of hades

brisk trail
#

Dope, thanks

tulip locust
#

I might have partially confused Paris and Achilles.

midnight gazelle
#

should we have a "tastefull (hades) memes" channel?

tulip locust
#

I do remember more context for Achilles now, though. I remember a single scene in the entire tome that he showed a shred of humanity. 😛

brisk trail
#

The meme channel should be called Chaos lmao

tulip locust
#

lol

hidden agate
#

Or just 'hell'

tulip locust
#

The Abyss

prime harness
#

memes from the abyss

sudden zinc
#

memes are banned

hasty frost
#

gAsp

trail geode
#

I know it will be probably after the complete release, but could I expect a switch release?

alpine stratus
edgy field
#

I'm looking for a list of voice actors, and I havent stumbled across it yet

#

Anyone know where I should look?

chilly stump
#

@edgy field Available in the Credits section via Hades' main menu! 👍

brisk trail
#

What does the Pom of Power do?

signal spoke
#

upgrades a boon

subtle notch
#

Lets you upgrade one of your current boons, specifically the stat increase I think

brisk trail
#

I'm just gonna wait for someone to add that on the wiki xD

#

Also is there a specific name for the food healing item thingie?

signal spoke
#

im not sure but it looks tasty

#

i know ambrosia is supposed to be the food of the gods but

#

id prefer what appears to be fries and a flatbread over a bottle of orange liquid

vale kite
#

it's the orange juice that goes with your happy meal

brisk trail
#

What is the spear called? Havent unlocked it yet

vale kite
#

that's an excellent question

#

sometimes you forget the weapons have actual names

dark wasp
#

It starts with a V, I know that

#

like "Valdara", or something like that

brisk trail
#

pls I need to know

prime harness
#

eternal spear

hasty frost
#

I know the shield is Aegis I believe
A chaos variant I guess?

finite mantle
#

Varantha the Eternal Spear or something

prime harness
#

varatha

#

just checked

finite mantle
#

Can check in Codex

#

Ah there you go

dense sail
#

Has there been a fastest completion time posted yet? 😂

dark wasp
#

yes

brisk trail
#

Awesome, thank you guys

hasty frost
#

Yep

#

I think it’s in spoilers

brisk trail
#

Man making a wiki is hard

#

Ive always taken them for granted

hasty frost
#

The last I saw was 10:30ish?

brisk trail
#

Since they already had all the info

prime harness
#

then u have stygius thats the stygian blade

brisk trail
#

Someone posted on the reddit

#

a 9:58 run

prime harness
#

coronacht the heart seeking bow

dense sail
#

word thanks

hasty frost
#

I wonder if Cupid will show up 👀

prime harness
#

and aegis the shield of chaos

brisk trail
#

Skeleton Key page is done!

#

For now

#

Until someone can get all the skeleton keys and update the second part of the codex

vital pier
#

Do you have a link to that reddit thread? I'd like to see that run

brisk trail
void vigil
brisk trail
#

from @burnt pond himself

vital pier
#

Thank you friendos

brisk trail
#

np!

#

Oh covertmuffin like who did Jedi academy at gdq a while back?

#

That was great

minor warren
#

Ye, Jedi Knight runs are the best

brisk trail
#

I have so many memories of that game from my childhood

#

Always fun to see speedruns of games like that

#

Whats the exact name of the hammer and health boost?

void vigil
#

centaur heart, daedalus hammer

#

or daedelus..?

grizzled fjord
#

@brisk trail You can check in your codex

brisk trail
#

didnt wanna have to open the game 😅

#

it was Daedalus Hammer

livid comet
#

Does anyone know if the "perfect landing" you can do when starting a run does anything?

grizzled fjord
#

Well alma gave you the closest answer without knowing what it is off hand

void vigil
#

looks super cool

vale geode
#

It's just cool

brisk trail
#

how do you do this

#

😮

void vigil
#

press dash

livid comet
#

Tap space at just the right time

void vigil
#

when falling out of the window

signal spoke
#

Falling with style

void vigil
#

zag does a little spin

livid comet
#

Or alternatively spam space when falling haha

hexed smelt
#

can i just...... mash dash instead

livid comet
#

Yup

void vigil
#

yep it works

#

but sometimes itll just say perfect landing without the animation if u do that, which i know bc i spam it aha

quick cedar
#

Great, now the devs will patch so that mashing it will have Zag fall flat on his face

hollow heron
#

Mashing will have him land, run forwards, and fall on his face

quick cedar
#

Zag, standing up: Cheers mate

stiff trellis
#

That would be amazing

#

And you just hear skelly laughing in the background

lilac tree
#

Anybody know how to add this game to the NVidia shield?

#

oh ignore me

brisk trail
#

poseidon is the fun uncle

lunar skiff
#

Any update or eta on a steam release?

drifting emberBOT
#

Please check #hades-faq for our answer regarding additional platforms!

livid comet
#

Anyone know what the blood gates do?

autumn sonnet
#

Give you an item in exchange for HP

livid comet
#

Cheers mate

quick cedar
#

Oh so the bot chimes in when you utter steam?

#

ok i'm dumb

livid comet
#

maybe steam release

drifting emberBOT
#

Please check #hades-faq for our answer regarding additional platforms!

livid comet
#

Hep

quick cedar
#

Useful

lunar skiff
#

Holy feces, a year?

livid comet
#

Hahaha

quick cedar
#

The early access period is planned to be around a year

#

So when the game's done it'll release on other platforms

lunar skiff
#

Ouch

quick cedar
#

Unless of course Epic Store somehow nukes itself and Supergiant jumps ship

brisk trail
#

me when epic games announces a store: eehhh ill pass
hades will be on epic games store: nvm

quick cedar
#

Now THAT is epic

#

Wonder how many users will last there tho

#

Client needs some work

brisk trail
livid comet
#

Make my choice:
Blood gate or Zeus?

#

Attack boon is already taken

drowsy karma
#

Zeus for dash.

nimble glacier
#

I've found virtually no use for blood gates so far personally.

cedar hollow
#

i sometimes take them if the only other choices are like a key and ambrosia

drowsy karma
cedar hollow
#

why is Dusa all alone in the corner?

vale kite
#

not a party without skelly

drowsy karma
#

Dusa is being a creep.

vale kite
#

no!!!!

cedar hollow
#

she's just shy

signal spoke
#

shes cleaning!

prime harness
#

such a hard worker that one

brazen lake
#

any ideas for other weapons we could get in later patches?

#

big hammers, double daggers, whips, maybe a scythe if the greek people used those?

brisk trail
#

a staff would be cool

#

a little out there but some kind of hermes boots that let you dash around and do some kick boxing 🤣

signal spoke
#

ooh if you wanted to do a staff you could do caduceus!

#

hermes' staff

lime hinge
#

Oh man, kickboxing/wrestling throws would be fun.

brisk trail
#

some kind of fist fighting

signal spoke
#

omg

#

what if you just wield dusa into battle

#

and show her to everyone

#

if only she had the stone gaze

languid fox
#

she only petrifies you with adorability

signal spoke
#

she tries to look at the enemies but she gets nervous and petrifies herself dusa

lime hinge
#

I have joked my favorite idea for a comical ending is Zagreus giving her a kiss and her blushing so hard that she pchoos though the roof and you can take the rooftops out of Hades.

vital fern
#

truly, showcasing the power of love :V

lime hinge
#

More like the power of squee.

signal spoke
#

im a huge fan of this

#

DUSA! TO THE SKIES!

candid obsidian
#

How would you guys compare this combat to either dead cells or bastion?

#

In terms of similarity to bastion and in terms of how well done the combat is to dead cells

brisk trail
#

if we could wield dusa

candid obsidian
#

I greatly enjoyed both

brisk trail
#

i wouldnt use her stone gaze

#

i would swing her around like a morning star 😂

languid fox
#

so cruel

#

I'd put it much more toward bastion, since you have a limited number of weapons that you choose at the beginning of each run

#

and of course from the isometric perspective vs. platformer

#

it does put more emphasis on dodge rolling

#

(depending on your build and style)

brisk trail
#

This game isnt done though

#

It will end up with a ton of weps

lime hinge
#

I would call Hades well... A lovechild between Bastion and Transistor.

languid fox
#

oh I'm sure, but I doubt it'll work like Dead Cells where you pick up different weapons as you go in each run

#

Like Transistor because of the stacking of different modifiers and passives on your skills?

brisk trail
#

the best of both worlds

lime hinge
#

Yeah.

#

I guess if I wanted to be silly, it's like Bastion and Transistor had a baby and they are playing dress up with Greek mythology.

brisk trail
#

rogue likes have always interested me

#

but i could never get into them

#

because there wasnt really an emphasis on story and characters

#

this game fixed that

languid fox
#

It's amazing what a good VO and some ancillary conversation can do to flesh out the skeleton of rinse-and-repeat gameplay

brisk trail
#

exactly

#

its not just

#

die, go out, die go out

#

theres new stuff each time you return

languid fox
#

I mean, I really like how Dead Cells is now starting to weave story into the little side passageways and interactable items, there's definitely a place for that, but it's still never going to have an enormous amount of story engagement

#

I started liking Zagreus within 5 minutes with his little world-weary quips

#

despite looking like a huge edgelord

quasi laurel
#

Real question

#

What does Zagreus wear on his lower half?

#

His feet look orange...?

cedar hollow
#

he's wearing those cool light up shoes

quasi laurel
#

RAD

marble sphinx
#

i think his feet are on fire or something

#

cause hell

quasi laurel
#

Seems legit

brisk trail
#

He actually does

#

He leaves a trail of fire wherever he walks

quasi laurel
#

Oh okay, that's fair

karmic basalt
#

i think i saw another char call him fire-stepping at some point so maybe his feet are actually on fire lol

#

i dig the lil fire footsteps they're fun

buoyant plank
#

if he's a fire stepper why do I take so much damage from lava smh

quasi laurel
#

Maybe he's wearing Heelies 2.0

#

Now includes fire and super-fast dodging

buoyant plank
#

I've died more times in asphodel to the lava then to the enemies, probibly because I charge headfirst into it with the shield...

north tangle
#

does anybody know what is a chance of legendary ability ?

brisk trail
#

Depends on what rank you have of Olympians Favor or God's Pride

lofty ravine
#

i guess by base

north tangle
#

@brisk trail +7% , never got ot even after beating the game. Lirik just got it without any Olympians Favor or God's Pride

brisk trail
#

Interesting

lofty ravine
#

is there a wiki up and running btw?

#

even if its just half put together

lapis cedar
north tangle
#

Ohhh got, the zeus's legendary is just destroying everything

lofty ravine
#

thank you

north tangle
#

guess gonna try to get legendary

brisk trail
#

Ive been working hard on the wiki all day

lofty ravine
#

i want to know where else can i get the starter items

#

in the keepsake

void vigil
#

What do you mean?

brisk trail
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Where to get all the keepsakes?

lofty ravine
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yes

brisk trail
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You have to give every character a gift of Ambrosia at least once

void vigil
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once you encounter a character, you can check the codex to see if giving them ambrosia will give you a keepsake or not by the little gift icon

lofty ravine
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do some give multiple ones, also do some need multiple gifts?

brisk trail
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I believe each character only gives one?

void vigil
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Right now, only one gift

midnight gazelle
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yes

brisk trail
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And you can give Ambrosia to the olympions before you accept their boons

north tangle
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am i the only one who feels posydons boon is underpowerd?

lofty ravine
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i have 6 missing ones

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1 is from a god

prime harness
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nah i never go for poseidon:p

lofty ravine
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1 is from hades if he gives me one

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but idk who else can i give

prime harness
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all of em

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all npcs in the house

north tangle
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@lofty ravine give gifts to gods before accepting power ups

lofty ravine
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i have almost all of that

void vigil
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which ones are you missing? I could tell you which characters they are if you want

north tangle
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@lofty ravine than evryone in hades house

midnight gazelle
lofty ravine
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im missing poseidon and hades that i know

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yes

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should probs

prime harness
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have u given cerberus?

lofty ravine
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yes

prime harness
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skelly?

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they all have something for u:p

north tangle
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so about posydon . I just feel his power ups should be on par with zeuses

brisk trail
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Meg is a goddess right?

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~making wiki pages is hard when you havent met the character yet~

north tangle
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@brisk trail not really . she's a fury

marble sphinx
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the erinyes are technically chthonic gods aren't they

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i'm not sure how that translates wrt their videogame power rankings

fiery pebble
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And furies are Chthonic Deities, yes

void vigil
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she is listed under chthonic gods in the codex iirc

marble sphinx
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ah yeah

grizzled fjord
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@lofty ravine You can figure it out pretty easily for yourself. If you consult your codex, every character who has a heart, is a character you've given a gift to and gotten a keepsake from, with exception to Hades who does not give a gift at this point

raw pollen
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Hey guys just played Hades for the first time and had a total blast with it. Well done, i did not experience any issues and was a smooth experience. Will be returning to this forsure.

brisk trail
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It would be fair to list Darren Korb as composer right?

prime harness
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i think though the yt descriptions dont mention him

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wich wa kinda weird to em

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was* me*

brisk trail
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He's listed as Music & Sound in the credits

prime harness
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true

subtle notch
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He basically did Everything about the music, and also directed the voice actors, as far as I believe

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Oh and sound effects

prime harness
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also voiced 3 characters

short cobalt
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Darren Korb is basically Orpheus's muse stuck on the surface.

prime harness
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lol

tulip locust
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Is there any word on a Mac release?

prime harness
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the faq states that other platforms will be available ocne it is out of early acces

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once*

subtle notch
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👆

tulip locust
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I took that to mean platforms other than the Epic Games Launcher.

prime harness
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yes we know

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thats why i said after early acces

tulip locust
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Wait I don't see the correlation to what you just said.

prime harness
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feel free to read the hades-faq , might be better worded or something, i am not native english speaking:p

tulip locust
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No, the FAQ is clear.

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Er, sorry, no it's not. That's the point I was trying to make.

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The Epic launcher is for both PC and Mac.

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So when the FAQ says it'll come to other platformers after early access, I thought that meant platformers other than Epic.

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Which does support Mac.

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But Hades doesn't.

prime harness
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ahh yeah ok

drifting emberBOT
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Please check #hades-faq for our answer regarding additional platforms!

brisk trail
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I know that Hades is probably coming to Steam eventually, but if I get it now, can I transfer my file over to Steam later?

hexed smelt
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not sure! i can't see why the save format would be different but that's the kind of thing you'd need to wait-and-see, i think

void vigil
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thats an interesting question

wheat ermine
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unless there's some update that makes EVERYONE have to restart their save files down the line (which i doubt), i can't imagine that it wouldn't!

hexed smelt
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but i'm not a dev so maybe that's a better question to pose at one of them?

wheat ermine
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i know my pyre save data transferred from GOG

fair echo
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I believe it will carry over as the save files are in your documents.

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Under \Documents\Saved Games\Hades

languid fox
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This is in reference to the on-fire shoes discussion earlier - I believe in Rastafarian/Jamaican slang a 'hotstepper' is someone on the run from justice, is it not?

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and Zag does seem to spend a lot of time escaping his comeuppance

sterile peak
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why does hades say "TRESPASSER!" when he decides to ruin your run if you're trying to untrespass? 🤔

subtle notch
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I guess it is technically trespassing if you are under house arrest 😂

prime harness
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room arrest:p

rigid grotto
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Hey guys I was thinking of starting a youtube channel where I showcase odd and fun builds, do you guys think there would be an audience for that or is it not worth it...

alpine stratus
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AAAAA IM SO MAD I BEAT A ROOM BUT A BOMB WENT OFF AND KILLED ME

karmic basalt
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omg i did that yesterday 😂 it's the worst

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pats

low venture
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I had that happen the first time I killed the bomb throwing skeleton guys

pastel coral
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That is bad. but next time you will beat the room and Survive the bomb @alpine stratus I believe in you

midnight gazelle
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@alpine stratus getting in the true Hades mood i see? dusa

karmic basalt
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i just realized that hypnos has a little sleeping mask on his head complete w the eyes and im trying not to laugh at work gjfklhg

hexed smelt
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he definitely pulls it over his face when he's napping on the job

buoyant plank
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hey soooo quick q how do you spell prince z's name?

karmic basalt
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imagine being a shade just arriving after death and then you just see this dude snoring in the pillar 👁👁

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zagreus?

buoyant plank
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thank you!