#h1-discussion
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You can use point to buy weapon, upgrade...
Have they talked about whether or not they'll be releasing on Steam at all this time around, or if it will just be through Epic Games?
I just did a couple runs, its super fun
although being able to stunlock the early enemies is a tad silly at times
@merry dust No word yet but it will be more widely available after early access
So you will become stronger after each death...
@olive jungle Alright, thanks. Guess I'll have to do with just buying it twice if it becomes available on Steam later probably.
oh my god I just realized the game is called hades of course its based around dying im so SLOW
I forgot who hades was for the past hour
same, buying Hades now, buying hades later, buying it whenever it comes out because LET ME GIVE SGG MONEY
Also 100% buying the vinyl when it comes out, @hoary veldt
Uri you're cute 
omg ven..... your name....
aaaaa I need to pick up the vinyls too aaaaa
i juST NOTICED
@hoary veldt I'm only missing Bastion now T-T
😮
Should have waited for the sale
also @unborn notch danke i handle compliment badly
It says in game there’s 39 days until the next major update will be there be smaller content along the way?
If I had to assume it'd be bug fixes and stuff yeah and then story patches or mechanic patches
"Major Update" will probably encompass new areas opening, additional story, or new/significantly altered mechanics, I'd imagine
Don't take that as the word of god
oh yeah, new areas
That is fairly safe to say!
whatever do you mean, "not the word of god"?
Oh, I mean, I'm just educated guesing ^^;
Means Logan didn't say it
Here’s to fighting our way through some upper planes!
I don't want too much weight to be given to what I say, I'm not an actual employee haha
is hades graphics intensive? my computer's a toaster and i have to play most games on ps4, it's so bad i get framerate issues on half life 2 at max settings lol
i really want to get it but i might have to wait until it's on consoles
yo this game is so AWESOME
if it's on consoles
it’s so hard to convince myself to not listen to the music yet because I don’t want to spoil myself on it
I doubt it's graphic intensive
@covert tendon It's comparable to Pyre as far as resource intensity
I imagine it will be eventually.
have winter break coming next week and know exactly what Ill be doing
Got my game installllleedddd ❤
Oh, to Pyre? I was imagining Transistor
btw dont pick world breaker
SGG's games usually aren't very resource-intensive
when it’s all Just There in my subscription tab
not the best ability lol
My best friend and I have been playing nonstop since the announcement.
hm, i played pyre on ps4 so i'm not sure how strong that'd be
i played transistor on pc though, i can run it fine
@covert tendon Honestly unless you're running on a 2010 low end machine you'll probably be good
☝
Plus there's always workarounds if needbe.
Is there any specs for the game out there actually?
new supergiant game out of nowhere is a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
@vestal lodge ?
Yes! They're in our FAQ. 😄
oh
What are the game’s minimum system requirements?
Hades requires a PC running at least Windows 7 SP1, with a Dual Core 3.0ghz, 4 GB RAM, 1GB VRAM with OpenGL 2.1+ support, and 10 GB available disk space.
Hades requires a PC running at least Windows 7 SP1, with a Dual Core 3.0ghz, 4 GB RAM, 1GB VRAM with OpenGL 2.1+ support, and 10 GB available disk space.

hahaha
yeah you can run it I can assure you
Yeah, I wasn't expecting anything until mid-late 2019 at the earliest following release patterns
Same
of course "minimum" doesn't mean "smooth" but
yeah thats what im worried about
It means playable 30 FPS-ish so good enough
yeah, I tried it out at Min and it was ~25-30 fps
👍
I imagine it'll only get better over time!
o p t i m i z a t i o n
I need to learn that tbh
on low?
There a high res version of that discord icon somewhere? 😮
Can't find one on reverse google search
lovely
oh I love the little skeletons....
that is the new logo ❤
Is that a Squirt on the middle-right side?
skeleboys
i dont think so
well all those squirts we vanquish in bastion have to go somewhere
Much appreciated!
This is the first time I'm seeing that in high res. 😄
they go to HEAVEN
hey
or to Vallhala I guess
tfw you couldnt save the baby squirt
Now I don’t have to worry about the other server’s icon being too similar
there's only one underworld in greek mythology tho
Not feedback per se, but I'd like to hug Dusa please.
it just has more or less ugly parts
Seeing things before Supergiant employees themselves do guess I'm a part of the team now
Yup we're all part of the team now
can't wait until they outsource some of the work to us now
man the voice acting is on another level.. just sunk a few hours in, absolutely love it..
they already do
pfff
Free QA.
is logan in hades?
Oh, Hades is more VA intensive?
i mean we're qa testers right now literally haha
me and the other mods do this mods stuff
sparrow and i edited like all of pyre's text
and we STILL missed stuff
logans like 4 people
Early access does mean QA
inb4 not Hades
logan, jen, darren, and ashley are the constants of every SGG game
on the surface level*
Hey quick question for anyone that's tried Hades, do you recommend mouse and keyboard or controller, downloading it right now
well yeah
Don't think anyone here has played both M+K and controller yet
I'd say experiment, it's all subjective in the end
I get that
Well... from a QA perspective it means a different kind of QA. For example, I will probably now spend 90% of the time I would have been testing the game talking to you guys, tracking feedback, and following up on bug reports. Bugs that I may have thought were really bad may not get noticed, while things that we have seen here 10000 times and thought were fine may escalate in importance. It's going to be an interesting balancing act, and I am super excited to be digging into it alongside our players.
@candid thunder I personally prefer controller. But carpal tunnel may have something to do with it
oof
XD I'm a young boi so no worries on that
Great to hear you have good support for controller though!
gotta worry about that future nerve 
We're not actually salty, don't worry Morgan 😂
"Yes morgan we're really upset to have the game early" 
It's nice a nice feel for the community to help out the devs after all.
Actual bug testing is pretty painful
Hands down my #1 favorite game company nowadays, passed Behemoth up and they held that position for years
Also yes, I'd say it's my favourite indie company since transistor.
Was this discord a thing before Pyre came out by the way?
Nope!
It's only been around for a few months.
We had the fan server since before Pyre came out, though.
next year
So is the character we play as Zagreus, or a new character with no base in mythology?
dont think Zagreus was this good looking imo
that is a good question jokes aside
I wonder i this is mythology based or mythology inspired
Hades is also our first game adapted from an existing mythology -- the world of Greek myth. We felt we had a unique perspective on this theme, and saw the adaptation process as a new and exciting creative opportunity to explore. Our take on Greek mythology assumes no prior knowledge of the subject. Yet, those familiar with Greek myth should find our take on it to be true to the spirit of the source material, from Homer to Hesiod. Greek myth comes from stories of ancient gods and heroes filtered through new points of view; we’re excited to share ours.
the player character is zagreus.
so, i'm still downloading the game, are there any songs with vocals? I noticed it was missing from the trailer lol
@hardy turtle and @wanton wasp So far this is what we've learned re: Region locking: https://epicgames.helpshift.com/a/epic-launcher/?s=epic-games-store&f=where-is-the-epic-games-store-available&p=all
No word on when things may change for any regions.
oh nooo
china is a pretty big one
probably some marketing/rights issue
Cerberus is best boyes
the goodest of boys
I'd say the censorship laws @olive jungle
is steam available in China?
Yeah
oh wow that's pretty recent
quite
lol there's some "Grpeephole" guy who posted on every Hades OST upload on youtube complaining there's no PS4 release yet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
What a dork
It was announced on last E3 actually @olive jungle
also @tulip veldt it's a one man holy crusade
Oh man this is so cool I didn't know there was a discord
welcome!
o/
Hello!
Hades actually spoiled GOTY, thinking about it - mythology, God of War?
Or, better yet, Hades ensured GOW's victory
Hello hello!
@vestal lodge Thanks a million! I get the situations.
Sheesh it's 1am and I'm supposed to be doing homework but this is really cool
Hades already best indie game for next year
Anyway just wanted to say hi I'm gonna read over this whole thing in the morning
Twitch chat did keep yelling RIGGED any time a big game won things. 🤔 😄
Red Dead totally shouldn't have won that much though.
@chilly stump monster hunter world is not evEN AN RPG
For broader discussion of game awards please go to #off-topic-discussion !
That's a lot to read my friend. Get some rest before night's end.
oh yeah
Swap release dates between RDR2 and GOW and GOW would have swept I feel like. If nothing else, GOW should have won it for best score over Red Dead.
But yeah, not hijacking this
thanks haha
Yoho bought Hades like directly after it got announced and played it till now. This game is just wonderful, I rly like it.
same oh man i'm loving it
forcing myself offline to go sleep lmao
is there a way to unequip keepsakes?
in fairness considering the previous game took us into purgatory, getting out of hell seems the logical next step
how am i supposed so get ready for work with all This going on huh
You Just Gotta
i like that the music is sorty reminiscent of pyre, the menu screen anyways
kinda twangy ambience
Some others were saying it reminded them of Bastion haha
I love that about Darren's music
It's always so recognizable
But never the same
^yeeee
Long time fan of Supergiant's games. Hades is definitely reinforcing my idea that I'll buy anything this studio puts out. But I was wondering something.
I feel it's a little darker/more mysterious than bastion, but it def has those elements there
Think someone had asked earlier, do any of the uploaded songs have Ashley's vocals? Kinda want to spoil myself and listen to the whole thing but if I were to restrict myself to one or so it would be that
And yeah, +1 to that, Supergiant is one of few companies I'll preorder/instabuy regardless with 100% confidence
@vestal lodge looks like we have to wait until the game is on other platforms then 🤷 were there any plans on that front? Hope it doesn't stay an Epic exclusive
also Steam was available in China since the very beginning.
Oficially so? @wanton wasp
So, some of Supergiant's trademarks are Darren Korb making fantastic music, Logan Cunningham providing his wonderful narration, and a very intelligent way of blending gameplay mechanics in with the narrative. This makes me wonder about one of their others. Is there a way to increase the difficulty for rewards as they tend to, like with Limiters from Transistor and Godshrines from Bastion?
It will be available off Epic after early access ends
@lusty cosmos you can buy games. what else do most people/players care 😦 (also regional pricing came a bit later but that's another topic)
@magic hound there's the keepsakes, far as I've gotten anwyays. lot's of locked stuff still :p
also........ i can't unequip the keepsake i equipped and it is A Concern
but the one i got is 20% decreased damage from front, 20% increased from back, from achilles
I really like how Supergiant games goes about game design tbh. They get on point the whole difficult thing.
It just launched tho give the Devs some time to gather feedback
Korb does what Korb does, without fail.
I don't think I'll be able to hold myself off from listening to the OST until launch tbh
btw guys how do I get those fancy roles?
I'll just run a script that nukes my PC anytime I get near to the OST url
Go over at #bot-commands @lost patrol
hehe. I'm only listening to the some of em...... for now anyways
they seem to be zone linked?
Actually, I do have a question now.
Pyre had a sprinkle of dynamic music on it, different instruments in the background for different characters, whoever had the ball, etc. Does Hades also have some dynamic music as well?
i'm gonna put my money on "probably" but it's one for the playtesters 😛
Im just gonna buy it when i get home
I've not noticed anything super obvious so far anyways
but I'd be very surprised if it didn't
So, how is the progression system like?
Looked like you got skills from different gods in the trailer
Apparently there's a sprinkle of rogue-like elements
idk how spoiler-y this channel is allowed to be (?)
but there's a persistent upgrade system and a per-run upgrade system
it's very binding of isaac-y, when you clear a room u see symbols at the doors to other rooms that tell u what the room clear reward is, basically
Mhmm
It is similar to dead cells as well
Seeing as it's the only hades general chat, I assume as many spoilers as #pyre and #transistor
one of those clear rewards is an olympian boon
I dont wanna any more about the story than the trailer says though
yeye fair enough
choice of 3 things, randomly generated from a list. there are rare and legendary boons as well that are more powerful than the normal one
I kind of want to buy the game to do bug testing now...
i racked up hundreds of hours in binding of isaac so i can’t wait to top that with hades
So, items work like in BoI or?
other than the boons, for room rewards u have darkness (currency - out of dungeon), coins (currency - in dungeon), skeleton keys(special currency - OOD, new weapons n some other toys)
and there's shops too, run by claron
oh also u can get keepsakes
Or is it like an equipment system (can only have one item for each slot)
only one weapon, but as many boons as u want
(can get)
you can give keepsakes to the NPCs around the hall and there's conversation tidbits and theyll give u a gift
The keepsake is like in pyre right?
there's a heart-based dating-sim style thing lmao
Oh
DATING SIM
NANI
like i mean it's not a dating sim but,,,,
YEAH
kasavin said there was like
doNT TELL ME I CANT DATE ACHILLES
I'll take ir
you could "sort of" date some characters
ooooOOOOOOO
keepsakes are the gifts the NPCs give u when u give em the keepsake item thingy
listen i’ve already proved that if you don’t let me date my faves i’ll just date em in my head
so far, i've gotten the one from achilles
after pyre teased me by having jodi reject me, honestly my body is ready
I never even got to the point where jodi could reject me
pyre wasnt a dating sim either but god did i wished that game was one of my weeb VNs at some point
But i still got ahaken up by it
Kinda strange though, cus i beat the game several times
The whole gifting and friendship system is pretty raw. It's a good thing to give !feedback on 😏
@coral thistle I think you always have a keepsake equipped, but I've found two that are purely beneficial. They seem like the brews from Bastion, only you can only have one.
interesting
HAAAAAAAAAAAADES
So try giving an ichor to a different character for a different keepsake.
AAAAH
it didn't force me to equip the keepsake which is what confused me, probably
yeah I need to get another one first
The one Hypnos has is pretty neat.
"hades is my best friend" the game

god i'd wish i could date hades
I love the sarcastic commentary when u do the inspect thing on rooms
Hades is just an overly protective dad
Achiles is best boy
I rly liked the reaction when I gave Hades my ambrosia
best dad
snarky narrator, is it?
snarky narrator is Hades, im p sure
yesssssssssssssssssssssss
and u always respond equally snarkily
the voice is slightly different but the way you respond makes it sound like it's Hades
but we'll see i guess
yeSSSSSSSSSS
someone already made it through?
The thing that really gets me going about this game is that i always loved the gameplay of bastion/transistor but i dont like newgame+ very much
Same. honestly I never got through the NG+ of any of them.... wanted to 100% pyre but I kinda got distracted by other stuff / got busy
So a roguelike is gonna give me a whole lot of replayability
I'm kinda hoping that Hades isn't purely painted out as the evil dude, bc he kinda always gets shafted that way in modern media n such
got through NG+ of all three
I only did NG+ when re-visiting transistor
still haven't 100%'d Pyre yet, though
Yo there's already new emotes too!

ooooh nice
I should get on that and complete the trifecta...
oh damn

aw they’re adorable

I just have the volfred achievement and the NG+ one for pyre left
oh are these in-game?
ye
kinda
the dead spirit wraith thingies pop up will the lil faces occasinally
also lil tidbits of their conversations
usually complaining, and their cause of death
oh, that gives some sense ot the shape of the emotes
i really like the sound of that

kinda reminds me of Dante's Inferno, in a way
the little tidbits of flavor/lore/story are interspersed very neatly
"Can you get more edgy than Dante tho"
yeah exactly
okay but he’s hot so that’s what really counts right
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
yeS
of course
Zag isnt that edgy tho
that jaWLINE
OH MY GOD YES
zag is just a sulky teenager
prety easy to be edgier than main-series Dante, since he's just wacky pizza guy who happens to be in debt most of the time 😛
you're not my REAL dad
I need myself an urban version of him with a baseball baT
huehuehue
calling it I'm gonna be listening to this on repeat for the next week straight
straight up
good call, lemme look at that
he's hot
just started the game here we GO
he's still hot
thanks! im so excited!
https://i.imgur.com/Ti18J29.jpg full version of the youtube banner, if you want it
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http://www.supergiantgames.com/webhook-uploads/1544052850977/Hades.zip here, a direct link from where i got it. "Want a quick to-go bag of Hades media, wallpapers, and logos? Download this handy zip file."
How handy.
I kind of want to make transparent PNGs of these for the hell of it
pun intended?
if that makes me sound funnier than I am, yes.
squint
After watching user Bun play this, Im gonna go ahead and dive in and get it
pfffff
Also can we get Hades on Switch? Id take it E.V.E.R.Y.W.H.E.R.E
hecking pretty
You're the best @lusty cosmos ❤
Alright, i'm done with the Main path, getting some sleep, et getting 100% tomorrow
@vague temple thank supergiant games, not me 
So, How's the game so far? I've just bought it and am waiting on my very slow download speed :^(
Thank you Supergiant! (And Jen Zee! :3)
I have not heard anything negative from it aside from quality of life stuff on feedback
Yeah, mostly just "Hey this thingy doesn't fade right"
So far it's as good as you'd expect from Supergiant Games minus the extreme polish since early access
still a lot of polish when it comes to art and voice acting though
are there Polish translations already?
(i can help on the french translation btw)
It'd be interesting if Supergiant Games went FULL community and asked for community translations
Thank you !!!
We're trying to fix the bug that made you super invulnerable hahaha
It was exciting!!!!!
We don't know actually?!
Some of the gods are rough scribbles but still the art and voice acting is 👌
@languid flicker Additional platforms will be decided once early access is concluded
It seems like invulnerability can proc super often... so it may have been legit? It was really fun to watch
It was really fun to play !
oh boi consider me exciter
We were all impressed haha
Honestly, Hades is about to become my new "Big" Game
❤
It was fun to watch indeed! You were the first streamer we found with a confirmed kill 
man I can't wait for winter break.... :3
And, for the record, i have the logo of my last big game tattooed on my leg
Oh wow Really ?
As far as we know!
Anyways... I need to head home for the night. I'll try to check in a bit later. Bye all!
Cheers
Goodbye !
Is there any in-game bug report/feedback feature?
Bye!
There's a dxdiag option and the option to let sgg collect data
Idk if there's a specific bug report
woot beat meg on my 4th or 5th playthrough with a god drop from artemis
Nice!
lvl 4 multishot and true shot is REALLY good
I think i might launch back my stream, litteraly cannot stop playing
On the one hand, i want this game inside me as soon as possible, but on the other hand i want to experience it when its at its best
My one complaint about the game's early access: y u do this the week before my finals
big mood
is this game coming to steam just wondering
eventually
meh, why study for a chem test when I could be playing hades :3
see #hades-faq
hypee
I’m very excited for this game best news to wake up to ngl
i did three runs and had tons of fun! no bugs so far, but im super interested by the lore and your guys' take on greek mythology!
i gotta crash but thank you again for another wonderful experience
🌃
Nighttt
has anyone bought the aphrodite scroll for your room yet?
the Greek equivalent of Valhalla
The Elysian Fields
Oh my goooddd the trailer
They've outdone themselves on the OST
(again)
And I am sooooo glad SGG is finally trying out a darker art style and setting
cannot wait
Literal purgatory of Pyre wasn't dark enough
Opening a game with a shot of a man impaled on a giant sword wasn't dark enough
Ok
hehe
lmao
Bastion is set in a post-apocalypse
I’m guessing Hades will come to consoles too at some point right?
Transistor during an apocalypse
yup
On the one hand - I too many times heard the developers say something like: "My last game didn't sell so well, so I just make some rouglike. It's fast in development, I can reuse the same assets and extend playtime without any additional effort". On the other hand - it's Supergiant Games, they turn into gold everything they touch. I have some mixed feelings about Hades announsment
I need some official wallpapers for my pc. Wonder if we'll get some first or if it will be fan art.
I think it'll be a lot like Pyre. Kinda unexpected in totally new territory, but still oughtta be fun
Well, no. But they never done a roguelike before!
I think there is already a wallpaper bundle somewhere isn't there?
Maybe I'm wrong
👀
from what I can see, they're doin' it right
I want to believe
probably a good idea
Supergiant released a game during busy Uni Times, you're going to be the death of me :(
ikr
Also that soundtack? A++++++
I have a real dumb question, where's everyone getting the colourful names from?
Roles given through #bot-commands
have they got my boi Plato as a friend?
Ok well that just made the bot mad so I don't think I can do that
Soundtrack is beautiful, I agree. Mouth of Styx has just blown me away
wow this game is amazing 
Yeah, I'm loving mouth of styx and Out of Tartarus
you wrote ?bastion
^
lmao
Yeah and when I do it with ?rank Bastion the whole screen... shakes
Slowmode is enabled to prevent flooding
^^
^^^^^
can't send a message more than once every 30 seconds
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oooohhhh
🥕
Oh heck well there we go
👍
Thank you!!!
np
Hades Multiplayer on the horizon???
anyone made it to asphodel yet?
I need this OST on spotify asap :^(
^^same
@unkempt zodiac don't expect any platform announcements until after the game is out of early access
@silk wyvern About to kill the Hydra a second time, on stream
The partial OST is on youtube!
niceeee
op 
Yeah I've been bopping to it for a while now, Would just be nice to have it on spotify for mobile and all that jazz
I think that's everyone's primary complaint at this point
I can't see myself getting any new games in the upcoming future but it looks so fun
Never played a roguelike before but the line in the trailer where he just deadpans "Well, time to go get killed again" had me cackling
And then I realized it'sa whole genre
It's a state of mind when you play this types of games really :D
Question! Does the protagonist have a name yet?
I had just layed and gave youtube a final scroll before going to sleep when I saw the trailer pop up in my sub feed, The fastest I had ever gotten out of bed.
"let's call 'im Jeff"
It's 2:30am I don't even know if I'm spelling things right
So he doesn't have a name?
?
We need to give him a name
lets name him Philip
Oh that's canon?
Ah right lol
Discord went to fast
not sure if I like Zagreus as a name tbh
he looks like an absolute Chad if you ask me
I was thinking more of a frank
i mean blame mythology for that
I've seen some.... nicknames
Not sure what the language rules are here but some of them are pretty funny
And that answers my question lol

👀
Real talk Imma just end up calling him Dante :^)
I'm just relaying the memes!
Have you seen 300
He does look like a Dante
He makes a good point.
Oh on a similar note
It is
yeah
Italian
^
In Transistor. You know Blue/Boxer/Breach? Did he ever get a canon name?
I always called him "blue" or "breach"
who?
the dude in the sword
"Sword boyfriend"
I've found my people
Hydra Downed a second time, and on stream
"And I got to hang out with the coolest guys like Virgil and all the poopy head popes that I don't like are in hell and everything is so cool"
yikes
Damn, At this rate you'll have everything done before I have the game installed lmao
I'm actually planning on having the 100% before 24 hrs
This is the first I have heard of this and all I can think is dungeoncrawlerdungeoncrawlerdungeoncrawlerdungeoncrawler....

Well, Good luck to you!
"why not dungeon trawler"
DO THEY GOT MY BOI PLATO THOUGH
I think I might hold out until we get a bit more story, and also until finals are done... but it's already looking beautiful
I was also planning on holding out, But uhh... that didn't last long
Hahaha
f
If it was on Steam instead of Epic I would have already bought it
oh its pronounced "za-gree-ous" i thought it was "za-greus" as in zeus
Epic is also kinda... being a BadBoy™ right now
epic takes a smaller cut of the sales than steam though
Yeah that was the one thing that made me have to think about it, Decided to buy it anyway. If it does release on steam I'll just buy a second copy.
i dont get why people are so obsessed with having a steam copy for everything
I really hope it's one of the Early Access games that are in development for like 4 months
sure, its convenient to have everything in the same store
instead of the games that are in EA for 5+ years
but its horrible for the consumers for there to be a monopoly
"muh achievements"
Eeeeh, I just want to throw more money at supergiant
I guess for Collecting Purpose
I just don't want to have the epic game launcher bloatware
hey, anyone else having or had trouble downloading the game?
The honest reason is I'm really nervous about new companies. I know Steam is good with credit cards and I can buy gift cards at the store (in person).
epic store takes 12% of the sales games on their store makes, while valve takes 30% of the cut of every sale on steam
Epic is having trouble with transactions right now, for some reason
probably because everyone is buying Hades
Being flooded with supergiant fans?
imo the epic launcher is pretty good compared to uplay and origin
:^)
ahh okay i thought that might be the case but just wanted to check to make sure
@lost patrol that's not a high bar
I am same I love super giant and love throwing money at them! Though I would like to get it as a christmas present for myself so waiting a few more days hahah
Recently deployed software can't handle the massive load of its userbase .. when have I heard that before? :P
Go have fun!
👋
Gambatte!!!!!
But... yeah. I'm really nervous about online purchases and at least you can buy Steam cards in person. With Epic I don't know. That's probably just a personal thing, I'm sure it's safe and all. But it makes me anxious.
if and only if totalbiscuit still alive, he'll be very excited to checkout this new game
F
yeah, I have an EA code and can't redeem it. I feel like their whole thing is just down right now
U guys remember the time when Steam first launched and everyone hated the **** out of it. And now everyone praises this moneymilking industry..humans are rly strange
^^
I feel like there's a bit of a difference between turning on something and just... working out the kinks
the time when Steam first launched
I think you overestimate the age of most of the Supergiant fans)
gentle modly reminder to keep an eye on your language, guys, the bot’ll eat your message otherwise
@lost patrol you mean, like 15 years ago?
why would you compare that to late 2018
you get to be compared to your competition in the modern day
If we're gonna talk extensively about digital games marketplaces, take it to #off-topic-discussion please!
it's like how people excuse week long launch failures and compare it to Vanilla WoW /endrant
I think I will wait and buy Hades after the initial hype dies down.
I just started playing and already I'm enjoying it immensely
My point is that we all shouldnt be afraid of new things and try it first, get the hang of it, instead of rejecting it from the beginning
This may be a silly question but when the full game is released do I need to buy it again even if I get the early access? :0
Seems like nope!
From what I understand once you buy it you'll continue to get updates up to and including full game
@oak crane no
So that's neato
@oak crane Nope! Thankfully you buy once and you're good
@oak crane If you purchased early access you get the whole game, but if you want it from another marketplace or on another platform you'll need to rebuy it there
Oh that's really good!
Honestly I'd rather post the 20 bucks directly to Supergiant rather than having to download yet another client
Thank you friends >:3c
I wish that was an option
I mean tru, at least supergiant gets a bigger cut with epic
to just mail a 20$ bill directly to a random SGG dev
meet in an alleyway
also, there doesn't seem to be an option to buy with the soundtrack just yet, right?
I'm going to wait like 10-12 hours since the site isn't taking transactions well
Steam is taking more of a cut from developers as of a recent change I believe.
two sggeople stacked in a trench coat
Hmm
they're taking less for high earners
@hexed smelt bring merch as well, I'll pay in birdseed
Ah my bad. I may be wrong.
Tbh I'm happy that more of my money is going to SGG because they're one of the rare developers whose games are consistently incredible
^
That's an interesting question. When do you will buy Hades?
A poll!
If you already bought the game do a Kid 
If you're planning to buy it as soon as possible do Tizo 
If you're going to wait for a couple of months do Volfred 
If you're going to wait till the full release do Red 
Epic is fiddly right now
any body know how to unequip the keepsakes?
waiting is kinda a thing
@spare sierra Not sure you can; it's been brought up in feedback channel already though!
cody, it’s looking like you can’t unequip keepsakes, only replace them with another
ah, ven typed faster
get better
oh, well i only have the one, so glad to hear i can at least swap it!
I would give my left kidney for supergiant, I'm sure the Epic Launcher isnt gonna be that bad :^)
ty ty
Honestly I just keep the Hades icon on my home screen and I dont go through the launcher
Having your game right next to Fortnite might negatively impact brand perception
Nothing will be worse than Origins
hahahaha got my code redeemed and i'm downloading the game now B^)
you wouldn't open a fancy restaurant right next to a Chuck E Cheese, right?
I mean, your restaurant will look less fancy just by being right next to it
and Fortnite... well
Hey y'all if you're having trouble with Epic's browser store, try it from the launcher?
I used the launcher version instead and it started working immediately so...if it's a transaction problem maybe that will help
where do yaal get codes?
perhaps
Yeah launcher worked fine for me
yeah, you know, fortnite. the hugely successful game that is generally liked with the exception of a few usually teenage cynics. the total brand perception killer.
...I just realized that Steam is full of porn games now so my argument is moot
@tired citrus I think moderators get codes for being mods!
new goal: become mod
i think they meant where to buy the game, rohver........
Wait, isn't Early Access™ a Steam thing? Yet it isn't on Steam?
yep
@hexed smelt no, he got it right
Early Access is a development thing
yeah, but they take a huge cut from each sale
reminder to keep the channel on topic >>
they're doing it through Epic, see #hades-faq
Right, I saw that.
Welp, if it was anyone but SGG, I probably wouldn't hav egone through the rigmarole of setting up an account in some alternative digital storefront, but..
exactly
We gotta do what we must
again, I'd rather pay directly to Supergiant. They have an ecommerce site so I wonder why don't they sell software through that as well?
I love SGG way too much for another launcher to bother me
same
I agree that I'd rather directly pay supergiant but there is a lot of difficulty in selling a digital product and going through epic should work much easier
And maybe it's ease of updates? I'm unsure
the launcher isn't even that bad it seems
you're probably right, Armadillo
Nah honestly the Epic launcher is really solid
I'm not expert but every launcher and provider works differently
I didn't see this in the FAQ but does buying the game give me a Steam key? Will there be a complimentary Steam key associated with my purchase in the future?
its fast, well laid out, and seems like its gonna provide devs with a lot of good tools
I think you have to buy for each service unfortunately
game launcher stuff in #off-topic-discussion pls and thanks
And I agree @wooden quartz
is it really off-topic, hades?
@tulip wyvern Purchasing the game in early access only gives you access through Epic
Yeah I mean it's a hades-specific question. And thank you for the answer.
It's getting there, I'm just trying to corral the conversation, y'know
like a moderator.
right, sorry
It's not about the game it's about its sales spots though so I could see why it's a bit off topic
also, is there a way of buying the soundtrack with the preorder?
or do I need to get it afterwards through bandcamp or something
Soundtrack isn't currently available for sale as far as I know.
right now they have on their faq page you can't buy it yet but they'll make it avalable
And I didn't see this on the FAQ either, excuse me if I've missed it, but did htey say anything about a female protagonist option?
I'm stoked to grab that. Probably the vinyl version too if they have that! I'm digging the prog rock sound I've heard so far
right, so I'll have to buy it separately, is what I was asking
Cause that'd be neato.
@tulip wyvern As far as I know they haven't said anything about that.
Oh that would be sick
Thanks, Ven.
You could ask Greg via twitter; he's been answering some questions there
i still think hades should be gay
@tulip wyvern That'd defintiely be cool, I love playing different types of characters. I didn't see in the faq but I haven't even played the game yet, just stoked lol
Probably asleep now, but SGG will be ~around~ over the weekend so
Beyond just m/f it'd be neato to have just different characters with a different kit. Though that's very much a down-the-road kind of thing once the game is more established.
@wooden quartz I mean, he could be. It'll depend partially on how any character interaction works
Honestly I can barely control my levels of hype, procedural games are my favorite already and adding SGG art and sensibilities to that is just blowing my mind
i think it's neat that sgg took on a bunch of people to do va this time around. logan is great obvs but it's pretty much fully voice acted
The main issue I can see with adding another playable main character is redoing/adding a lot of voice acting, moreso than assets or movesets; if they chose to make unique fighters that would be a lot of mechanics on top of that too
I'm cautiously skeptical, but given it's my favourite darn studio in the world, highly optimistic as well. 
Yeah true, Ven. I take it it's Logan doing the v/o for the protagonist?
@devout plinth After his performance in Pyre I wouldn't be surprised if he weren't able of doing female voices as well
Sounded like Chris Sapphire actually
Honestly after seeing the crazy amount of interactions between your choices, your character, and the 20 other characters around, I can't possibly imagine how they'd redo all that for a different character & story
It would just take hundreds of hours, you're pretty much remaking the entire game outside of combat
put tatiana maslany in smash a supergiant game
unless it's just a cosmetic skin change but then the whole story wouldn't make sense. An alternate game-mode without dialogue?
Would be odd though
Logan is doing Hades, it sounds like? And if it's a non-Logan voice actor doing the protagonist, I don't think it's unerasonable to include an alternate v/o set for any alternate characters, as much work as that would be. Perhaps as DLC! I'd buy the heck out of that.
They've never done DLC for their games outside of Bastion...
...bastion had DLC?
SGG strikes me as the kind of studio that likes to finish a product and be done with it.
...wasn't the stranger's dream a later add-on or something?
I may be misremembering
I don't recall having paid for it tho
I mean without spoiling the story, the identity of the characters is all crucial to how they interact. So if you just keep the identity of the main character but say flip the sex you'd still have to redo every voice line.
Right
Yeah Bastion didn't have DLC
alright, I misremembered then ahaha
that just makes more of a point tho
can we get a build-your-own-game consisting of just DLC
SGG isn't a DLC studio
Nah they're a one and done
Which is why it seems they've wanted to try this open access thing
I think if any game will have "dlc" alike things it'd be this one
They've never done early access before,e ither.
they've never had a game where it would make sense
you can't do EA for story based games
Also real talk: I'm a sucker for Greek mythology
I mean, DLC would make sense for procgen replayable games. All I'm saying.
Additional "cards" to "shuffle" into the procgen "deck" each time you play.
Mh hm I agree @tulip wyvern
it doesn't seem to me that SGG has the manpower to make quality DLC while they're making... y'know, games.
It'll probably be a NG+ type thing they could do when the main storyline is done
They've said they're excited to release story in a serial format
@oak crane oh for sure. I think it's such a great idea. Get's me all stoked ^_^
To be honest, SGG creates games that are very "conclusive" if you get what I mean, I've never really played one and thought "oh DLC would be nice"
To be honest I would much prefer to keep getting new games over getting DLC for old ones, no matter how appealing it sounds at first
It's true they they view this early access as a first chapter type thing. They could easily introduce further story with new characters if that viewpoint isn't too far off
They don't have to be mutually exclusive. You finish a game, you make DLC for it for a year or so, then you move on. I'm not suggesting they make expansion content for Hades forever
then it's not really DLC, is it?
Thank goodness Todd Howard isn't a part of SGG
the game isn't really finished until they stop working on it
I mean, remember New Vegas DLCs? Those things were massive
Does anyone know why its launching on Epic Games?
Hey, I have been trying to buy hades but it keeps failing. Is there a chance that Epic Games back end isn't working because people are all trying to buy Hades?
We've concluded probably financial reasons
@runic holly Try purchasing it from the desktop app if you haven't
I don't really follow that logic. DLC = expansion content, which is not required to play the base game, which in itself is finished without anything else. expansion contentis the icing on top of a cake that's already delicious.
Epic's been having issues
@runic holly I didn't hae any trouble =/
@quick pagoda they've likely made a brand deal with Epic
@runic holly hopefully you get through soon
also they get a better cut
Looking forward to getting a nylon trash bag and GDPR infractions with Hades 🙃
seems like i have to get used to the epic games launcher now 😛
this is the official explanation
We’ve never launched a game into Early Access before, and our players have come to expect complete, self-contained games from us ever since Bastion’s debut in 2011. With Hades, we knew we really wanted to create a game we could develop in partnership with the community, and from talking to the folks at Epic, we realized their store would be the perfect place to conduct our latest experiment.
If you don't feel like waiting for release on other platforms
Tbh I just want a body pillow of Hades' son to hug
Is there a name for him?
Zagreus
so its not coming on steam?
looks at cerberus in trailer looks back at pfp looks back at cerberus
wait what
Well official explanations are always just PR fluff
@dusky crescent It might eventually, but while it's in Early Access, it's Epic only
I have high hopes cuz it feels like transistor but one of the biggest drawbacks of transistor I feel, was it’s lots of lore but lack of interaction with the lore so i hope through the early access method they can provide the gAme and build this interaction with lore and world
Supposedly it's coming at a later date @dusky crescent, not as Early Access
@dusky crescent it is 100%, just not for Early Access
Ahh neat. Is that from real greek mythology? I'm not so up to it that I know the names of all the nephews andsons of the main characters.
It is!
Very neat!
Hrmm. It just says "Looks like something went wrong. For your protection, this transaction has been voided and your funds will be returned in 3-5 business days." I'm not sure what is possibly causing the problem either.
oh yikes, dont wanna buy it for early access only to later buy it on steam 😦
SGG tends to be strangely accurate with these sorts of things, like with the made-up language in Pyre
i mean if they want to experiment with frequent updates and said that store is perfect for it, sounds like its coming on steam only when the last update is out or something?
@runic holly Oh, that sucks. I'd submit a service ticket on their website then? I'm sure they already know but, just to put your name in the hat too
@dusky crescent Yes, once it's finished and no longer updating serially it will be on other platforms
Oh it's Zagreus? Nice
buy or not to buy...
@quick pagoda Yeah I think I'm in that camp myself. I would adore any opportunity to support SGG, but if it's not 100% assured that I'm going to get a steam key at launch, creating a new account on some rando digital stroefront just for one game is kindof a huge inconvenience.
39 days to the next update eh?
@dusky crescent yeah, I doubt it'll come to another distribution platform till it's done. That's why I bought it even though I'd rather play the game on PS4
Seems like they plan on big ones then
If the game is accurate to the mythology this'll be interesting huehue
@left bramble Yeah, major update in 39 days, with minor updates and bug fixes in between
yeah i think ill eventually grab it as well
Finally got the chance to watch the trailer. Looks intriguing!
Logan nailing it with the v/o as per usual.
Honestly it's very polished for an EA title.
SGG has always been pretty tight with their polish
I'm 3 hours in and the only thing I've come close to hitting a wall for is how far you can go combat wise
there's so much more interaction & lore
I could legit play for dozens of hours just to unlock the starting content
@tulip wyvern I love Zagreus's voice and feel from the trailer. I was sold just by it being SGG but the trailer was good.
hows the combat btw?
@tulip wyvern and Logan with hades of course
would you say its more similar to bastion, transistor, or none of them?
Is linking your own twitch vods okay here @olive jungle ? Because the simplest way would be to just show a clip. But it's basically transistor without timestop is what it feels like
but more fluid
It looks very similar to Transistor
Interesting!
As long as it's on-topic, sure, go ahead!
Hi guys!
Game is unbelievably amazing in all aspects! Can't stop playing after 3 hours already!
@fleet sage For me it feels like Transistor mixed with Bastion. Graphics are totally close to Transistor.
Gameplay wise its more similar to bastion than any of the others I think
And oh boy does it feel good
i like the blood
Got chills at "Death is your only family, boy. Death and I."
Hey, I need to go for a bit so I can eat some dinner and play some Hades. I'll be Around but not lurking; @ me if you have a burning question. @brisk trail will be watching over chat too
good to hear, cuz while transistor is easily my fave in terms of everything, its nice to see another proper action game from supergiant
@tulip wyvern wait, do we get BOY memes as well?
Hades calling his son "boy" all the time and so on
How can we not get BOY memes
oh i guess hades doesn't call him "boy" in that line.
Ohhh, dat music from teaser video
@fleet sage Here ya go a 30 second clip of combat with the basic sword https://clips.twitch.tv/CarelessVainSwordDansGame
dad of boy
I mean, that's not a thing that dad of boi invented.
We can listen full ost?
ah yes my favourite supergiant characters: the kid and the 🅱oy
@tulip wyvern yeah, i listened to a track from it. going to go to bed soon and listen to more XD
They did say in the faq that that's what they have so far. SOwe may get more! might be why they aren't selling a soundtrack yet as well
Check offtopic in a second
The usual DLC alarmists would throw a fit if they saw the game had DLC in early access. They always do.
even if its non-game contentlike a soundtrack or art book ro soething.
Any opportunity to be a toxic dingus is 👌
Can we see how many times we’ve died?
@left bramble thanks for the clip! I already boughtthe game but since I don't have time to play it just yet, it was cool to see some action before going to bed ^_^
@digital ice That is something which is unlockable!
waking up to new supergiant game

@sturdy rampart My pleasure, that's why I stream 😄 I figured some people wouldn't be able to play right away but would want to see it so I did a late night stream just for those folks xD
Oh that's very cool re: unlockable death counter.
@digital ice You can eventually buy some nice furnishings for your bedroom that will tell you how many times you've died...
ominous
that sounds like a pleasant thing to have in your bedroom
wake up and your alarm clock says “you’ve died 526 times, you scrub”
@left bramble well, it's just a small thing but I've followed your channel 😄 of course, I misspelled your name about five times I think trying to get there lol
This was a big surprise. Can't wait to pick this up in the next few days
confession time, i haven’t even watched the trailer yet
"Wakey wakey, today is the day that you die for the 542nd time"
@sturdy rampart Thanks! Ain't no small things for small streamers o/ it's appreciated
I HAVE TO GO TO WORK IN LIKE FIVE MINUTES SABA.....
THAT S SO INCONVENIENT
i’d like to be able to at least partly focus on my job
you can watch it 100 times when you re home 👍
sparrow is a smarter person than i am
“your total is £5.96, also please check out hades”
i woke up, checked youtube, saw the trailer, and now im at school
and cant do anything
i woke up to about six people yelling at me about the game
tbh it's probably because you're on discord while at school @brazen lake 🙃
I'm on sick leave for a second day straight I've been legit cured
all my thoughts are of this game and that other game by obsidian that just got announced
Hades cures common cold y'all
@crimson osprey shhh i dont like it when people use logic at me
alright folks i’m outta here, be good ok?
I woke up just to pin that
yeees
i can make no promises
Take care @hexed smelt !

👋
Thanks Morgan
But if y'all get sued I'm not liable for false advertising, I'm just some dude 😅
well, I'm off to bed. got stuff to do tomorrow. Gonna go listen to the new masterpieces by Darren Korb and sleep. Those who get to play make sure and enjoy it for me!
we could do some AB testing? Spending time under a blanket vs spending time under a blanket while also playing Hades

@hexed smelt I didn't watch ti for a bit either, before coming on here and expressing my excitement. ❤
mod is a vampire 

friend: "This looks exactly like transistor." me: "no way mang it plays more like bastion by all accounts"
What I have to put up with.
it looks like Transistor because Jen Zee
also, can we talk about the characters' art style?
yup, no difference between a roguelike based on greek mythology and a cyberpunk storydriven game
i think it combines elements from all 3 games actually

