That's dumb. Your game is dumb
#h1-discussion
fallow yew
rustic vale
Even if it did work as intended it just wouldn’t be as good as ares strike athena special divine dash
fallow yew
Well there you go happy now? room 1 ares attack room 2 athena special
Had to use a reroll but we got it
stiff obsidian
yay
fallow yew
And room 3 pom
Yeah pom scaling in this game is so much stronger than H2
a 50% damage buff on first pom for doom
stiff obsidian
yea h2 felt weird cuz of that
rustic vale
H1 pom scaling is rlly interesting
stiff obsidian
h2 is linear right
fallow yew
It's because poms are so differently balanced in that game specifically with stuff like Sea Star and Jeweled Pom existing
Yeah first Pom is double but every pom after is linearly scaled
If an ability gets 5 damage per pom then the first is 10 and every single pom after is 5
But it's to balance how absurdly high you can get pom levels sometimes
rustic vale
most boons fall into starting at a first pom that is 40/60/80% of the base common value, and then subsequent ones are 70% of the value of the prior pom down to 10%
fallow yew
points at level 96 zeus cast with 515 damage/.35 seconds
stiff obsidian
u wat
fallow yew
Ye
So explanation
Jeweled Pom gives every boon 3 levels
Persephone skull aspect can give up to 6 levels randomly when you pick a boon
stiff obsidian
i only remember that kera zeus duo that kills all that gods boons and makes them poms or somehting
stiff obsidian
Persephone skull aspect can give up to 6 levels randomly when you pick a boon
this is new
fallow yew
Zeus and Hera duo sacrifices all boons of one to give 4 levels per sacrificed boon to every boon of the other
Then you can use echo to DOUBLE the level of your highest boon
You can also get sea star from Poseidon to duplicate poms
fallow yew
Persephone skull aspect can give up to 6 levels randomly when you pick a boon
So you can get a boon at level 10 instantly it's VERY funny
vast raven
h2 is linear right
no there are fall offs still
fallow yew
Very little on the few boons that have fall off
And it stops falling off by like pom 3 or 4 if it does
brisk trail
you can swat projectiles in Hades 1, you don't need Athena specifically, any attack works
e.g. if you're running rail, you can just shoot straight at the projectiles
brisk trail
but yeah as for the fangs equivalent, maybe only take rank 1
there are other sources of heat
fallow yew
I'm not gonna be a coward if I can do Fangs 2 I can do Benefits Package 2
brisk trail
just FYI heat 32 is like fear 50-ish, Hades 1 is much more rough
fallow yew
I'm aware
brisk trail
I'd wait until I have Meg at least, cause she can always bail you if you get overwhelmed
fallow yew
I'm pretty sure aside from not having companions I've got about the same time in this game
fallow yew
Yeah honestly playing both it's not far off
brisk trail
I'm pretty sure aside from not having companions I've got about the same time in...
same as me? I have 52 clears
fallow yew
And what's your highest heat and fastest run?
brisk trail
kinda stopped playing when patch 2 for H2 came out
fallow yew
Like I guess I have less time but I'm not incompetent at this game just still getting the handle of the wheel
brisk trail
And what's your highest heat and fastest run?
16 heat (Zeus shield) + 22 min (fists ME), I normally average sub 30 min
fallow yew
Cool, I'll check back when I've done tight deadline 3 32 heat. It's gonna happen soon
Just gotta get a build off the ground
brisk trail
have you unlocked everything in the mirror
fallow yew
Still need more darkness for more rerolls
brisk trail
I recommend taking the regenerating cast + the last 4 talents should be green too, dark foresight gives like 7 more boons + you want boon re-rolls instead of room re-rolls
- gods' legacy doubles your duo chances which is sick
fallow yew
I'm trying to say I don't need a ton of pointers I just gotta stop taking hits in asphodel
32 heat isn't hard compared to what I've done in H2
brisk trail
not trying to sound patronizing, but do you know that lava doesn't deal damage unless you actually stop moving while on it?
so you can mostly ignore lava and just spam dashes all over the room
fallow yew
I'm aware
drowsy kettle
not trying to sound patronizing, but do you know that lava doesn't deal damage ...
wait what
fallow yew
Look like I have played this game and also watched somebody else 100% it while sitting on the couch with them
I know how the game works
drowsy kettle
I've 100%ed this game and never knew that
brisk trail
yeah you can dash into lava and back pretty safely
stiff obsidian
you do take damage while moving on lava
stiff obsidian
u dont while dashing is all
brisk trail
there's a timer yeah
fallow yew
Yeah if you stop dashing you start taking damage even if you're moving
You don't get to just Jesus walk on lava
drowsy kettle
okay gotcha. I was very confused
stiff obsidian
you can until you die
brisk trail
it's like, if you're playing shield and bull rush into lava that's fine, just dash back onto solid ground, you won't take damage
fallow yew
We get how lava works
fallow yew
I think all of us here have dealt with lava enough
brisk trail
just giving some tips
fallow yew
https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-cat-tweaking-cat-help-gif-15027370981305715566
Bro tweaking at being told stuff about the game they play like it's their life goal?
stiff obsidian
died to lava in lernie fight 4 times in a row yesterday
stiff obsidian
Bro tweaking at being told stuff about the game they play like it's their life g...
wat
fallow yew
Nevermind
stiff obsidian
???
fallow yew
Was saying the cat was you going crazy right now with this conversation
stiff obsidian
no its just a funny cat
brisk trail
Kol, are you in a bad mood today
stiff obsidian
lol
fallow yew
Heightened security lava doesn't F around
fallow yew
Kol, are you in a bad mood today
No just lost a run again with a good build is all
fallow yew
i turn it off for 50 sometimes
Yeah I don't use it
I'm taking a break from H2 because I was beating my head against a wall on underworld high fear and just couldn't get it
So moving over to this game to do something relatively easy by comparison
brisk trail
there's an aspho clip above
fallow yew
And I DIDNT POST IT
brisk trail
so how much heat are you running
stiff obsidian
😢
brisk trail
and what's your highest cleared heat
fallow yew
Only lost one of my runs to timing out to Elysium BS
stiff obsidian
what is even happening
fallow yew
and what's your highest cleared heat
Does it matter? 12 but like it’s not even that bad of a jump
fallow yew
Okay and? I got to heroes and died to time on tight deadline 3
brisk trail
Meg one shots mini-bosses or tricky rooms
fallow yew
It’s not hard
lavish sorrel
12 to 32 is huge in Hades 1
(by no means unachievable tbh (wouldn't be the first to jump from some <20 heat to 32), missing some metaprogression can hurt though)
fallow yew
If I can do strength 50 fear with time 3 with a nearly no damage rivals Typhon I can do 32 heat H1 easily
brisk trail
like there's that gorgon head + doomstone mini-boss in aspho, I freaking hate it on the pact that makes it harder
but Meg will just kill it for you
stiff obsidian
ngl i dont even meg for minibosses anymore
fallow yew
Yeah like I genuinely don’t want to think that I’m only gonna win by having Meg
It really isn’t needed
I mean I got a 12:41 with no companions
brisk trail
you only need to gift her 1 ambrosia to unlock her summon, then use 10 ambrosia to max it out
fallow yew
you only need to gift her 1 ambrosia to unlock her summon, then use 10 ambrosia ...
I know that but she hasn’t given me the unlock yet to give ambrosia
Still getting there
I don’t need Meg companion
brisk trail
if you want to rush it, just kill Meg, then die on purpose in aspho, gift her at the house, rinse and
rustic vale
12 to 32 is huge in Hades 1
Nah
brisk trail
Meg won't spawn at the house if she wasn't in Tart though, so always play on EM1 because she might at least spawn as a support (which counts)
rustic vale
I’ve seen 8 -> 32 and 0 -> 32
fallow yew
I can easily do the 32 jump I just need to hit a build
I just got nothing to save me timer in Elysium
Cause I refuse to turn off deadline 3
rustic vale
We can just hand you the build for whatever weapon you want to run like
fallow yew
Nah I’m doing it vanilla on my own save
stiff obsidian
I can easily do the 32 jump I just need to hit a build
this is what i tell myself
rustic vale
Just hit rush delivery on 62 heat
brisk trail
just run Zeus or Beowulf and you can clear 32 heat, I know I can if I stop being lazy
lavish sorrel
Just hit rush delivery on 62 heat
frei is that you
fallow yew
just run Zeus or Beowulf and you can clear 32 heat, I know I can if I stop being...
I also don't want to shield cheese
lavish sorrel
so what I'm hearing is hesty is fair-game 
stiff obsidian
bro is not taking the hint 😭
fallow yew
I can absolutely beat deadline 3 32 heat it's not a question
brisk trail
I can absolutely beat deadline 3 32 heat it's not a question
which aspect though
fallow yew
I don't need companions, I don't need cheese
fallow yew
which aspect though
I timed out on talos but never got the build off the ground
brisk trail
you want merficul end or heart rend for talos (pretty strong with heavy knuckle)
fallow yew
And then was informed the build wouldn't have worked cause the game doesn't communicate that properly
fallow yew
you want merficul end or heart rend for talos (pretty strong with heavy knuckle)
I'm aware of merciful end we were discussing it earlier
And you told me that when I started playing
stiff obsidian
man the difference between a powershot and a fully charged shot is huge
brisk trail
try heart rend though, artemis strike, aphro special, you apply talos debuff with the special, then your attack hits very hard
fallow yew
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stiff obsidian
fallow yew
try heart rend though, artemis strike, aphro special, you apply talos debuff wit...
Done it before it was nice
brisk trail
but overall, Talos is not very popular, I like it because pulling enemies is fun, I think demeter is the meta one
fallow yew
I just don't have enough resources to unlock more aspects atp
And I don't care to grind. I'll beat it with what I got
stiff obsidian
yea ngl talos is like a bottom 5 aspect i hink
brisk trail
you'd have the resources if you turned down heat and started getting clears
fallow yew
And 🤷♂️
fallow yew
yea ngl talos is like a bottom 5 aspect i hink
Yeah I can tell tbh
But whatever we ball
I guess I can invest some in zag fists
For the dodge chance
lavish sorrel
yea ngl talos is like a bottom 5 aspect i hink
the heat-sheets disagree /j
(scratch 🐐)
stiff obsidian
brisk trail
zag fists + plume is a pretty OP combo
stiff obsidian
pov modpack
stiff obsidian
the heat-sheets disagree /j
(scratch 🐐)
what did scratch do
i wasnt here for a while
fallow yew
I'll beat 32 heat vanilla then I may go modded but idk
stiff obsidian
do 50 vanilla before modded
lavish sorrel
what did scratch do
scratch has unmodded 56 and modded 58 talos
which is much higher than bottom 5
lavish sorrel
definitely not every aspect, every weapon maybe though
old bluff
cheesy has all weps 60
fallow yew
Does plume go away if I unequip it?
old bluff
yes
fallow yew
Lame
old bluff
same with butterfly
stiff obsidian
wait whois chees
old bluff
vaxon
brisk trail
Does plume go away if I unequip it?
yeah, but on zag fists it's an easy 50%+ dodge chance
lavish sorrel
yeah, but on zag fists it's an easy 50%+ dodge chance
meme-build: zagfists + hermes dodge + rr
stiff obsidian
i want to do all weps 55
old bluff
~~meme-build: zagfists + hermes dodge + rr~~
more of a meme build:do plume zag sword and get sword wr
stiff obsidian
any funny run i should try
vast raven
hesty 50 w/ ares attack start fr
stiff obsidian
okay
id just sell ares atk then go shackle
or id just get ME lmao
wait ares atk would just become zagrail 50 with ares
which isnt even funny cuz ares is like the best start for zagrail
besides zeus
stiff obsidian
i dont get the reference
are you chiron
it took me weeks to do chiron 50 💔 so thats not happening
i might be better now
vast raven
uhhh i played ME chiron a while back and did a 40 on it and alex gets it, it's a niche ref lol
stiff obsidian
im not even able to do rama 50 rn
im lit just trying to get to hades
to get a savestate
speaking of which how do u get a savestate
cuz when i tried it said savedata corrupted
vast raven
grab the temp save, copy it rename it as a .sav w/o the temp and it should work
stiff obsidian
thats what i did, weird
vast raven
when did u do it?
if it was before the save icon entering dad fight that might be why?
stiff obsidian
yea does that mess it up
died to lernie lava again
7th time in 24hours
yo i just spent 1 min 30 secs on sneak
this aspect is not for me 💔
rustic vale
It’s a tool the game gives you-
fallow yew
Two separate statements lol
rustic vale
And then was informed the build wouldn't have worked cause the game doesn't comm...
Was this the merciful end one? Just do it without curse of longing and it’ll work better and be more consistent
Heart Rend talos is certainly a suggestion 
rustic vale
yeah, but on zag fists it's an easy 50%+ dodge chance
Just hit hyper sprint and weak and get 51% damage reduction without messing with the rng nature of dodging
a fair number of builds can just throw aph on something just for smair anyways
After your main 2 gods are picked up
rustic vale
uhhh i played ME chiron a while back and did a 40 on it and alex gets it, it's a...
ME chiron w/ flurry?
vast raven
ME chiron w/ flurry?
piercing and relentless
fallow yew
Well we're past heroes on 32 with 1 DD left so EZ game from here if I don't giga choke on FO2 Dad
Damn 3+ chamber sack
booo
Yep chamber 3 sack lame
(yes I do go for the stronger encounters first)
Damn lost at 25% left on hades
Is what it is
Had to rush due to timer cause of third chamber sack
rustic vale
Had to rush due to timer cause of third chamber sack
What does your mirror look like rn
fallow yew
uhhhh I'll screenshot and send to vic chat
rustic vale
uhhhh I'll screenshot and send to vic chat
How are you intending to active pstatus like
just use family favourites tbh 🥀
fallow yew
🤷♂️ I'm too origination brained from H2
rustic vale
H2 is truly a curse upon new H1 players
They come in using weird alien terminology and what not
fallow yew
It's okay I know Gramps, our game just casually fixed 90% of what was wrong with your game and you had to walk up hill both ways to school 
Origination being the H2 equivalent of Privileged status but curses in H2 are generally far stronger and more core to the gameplay
rustic vale
“Fixed”
rustic vale
It's okay I know Gramps, our game just casually fixed 90% of what was wrong with...
Everything I understand about H2 gameplay is that the main core focus of combat shifted away from dashing
So I don’t really consider them to be that similiar
fallow yew
Really no tbh
Like maybe at a low level but a large number of the weapons still very much play around dash attacks and movement
Staff, blades, coat and axe all very much still do a lot of dashing and movement
Playing both it's really not THAT different
It's just less spammable
vast raven
nah dash striking is still considered one of the best things and incorporating dashes into combos and such
rustic vale
alr
fallow yew
Staff is literally almost all dash-strike special
Coat is almost all dash strike
Axe it's a solid move that's fundamental to the melinoe and hidden aspect and still very useful on all the others
Blades it's THE thing because of trick knives hammer
So like yes the gameplay is more focused around spacing than i-frames but it's still 100% a valid option even if it's used less
Just a lot less projectile spam in H2
stiff obsidian
yea does that mess it up
@vast raven does it?
vast raven
idk
fallow yew
EZ game GG
inland vector
Can i suggest to have a nintendo switch 2 ver of hades 1? Since we already had 2, i really like 1 as well
rustic vale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1498045463910289641/j4...
Swift strike on delta-chamber 🥀
You might as well have picked nothing
At least it’s like 140 obols
stiff obsidian
its not that bad, i was on pace for sub11 few hours ago and died to em4
with a mid build
and trash elysium, no midshop and everything just unarmoured swordsmen
opaque vine
Yo anyone got good tips on getting 30% on butterfly? Need to clear 15 rooms hitless. Sound very hard
latent moon
Use hestia with Aphrodite attack
Should be able to get through most of Tartarus and asphodel hitless
Then just need to do well in various Ely rooms
edgy pilot
i did that recently, i can't remember if i used bow or hestia
brisk trail
I did that with the rank 1 keepsake, didn't even know it was a cheevo until it popped
though it probably was on one of my Zeus shield runs, so I kinda cheated I guess
brisk trail
After 10 runs, still lose to the last boss..........
To be honest, lose to the duo
Made it to the last boss just one time.
brisk trail
Yeah but i play in hell mode
latent moon
okay and you've still only done 10 runs lmao
10 runs getting to the final boss is already faster than most people
tepid plover
After 10 runs, still lose to the last boss..........
Completely fine without hell mode, and even more understandable with hell mode on
brisk trail
Yeah i made it one time with the shield and the Ares boon on the special
rustic vale
Yeah but i play in hell mode
The average player takes 20-80 without hellmode taken into consideration
tepid plover
Worth noting, taking longer than that is completely fine
bright dagger
Another spoiler question ||is there a way to reroll asterius lines, im trying to get the waking phrase but no such luck||
lavish sorrel
no need to spoiler anything h1-related here, as opposed to #h1-for-new-players.
the game operates on a priority-system for its voicelines. some voicelines are considered more impactful than others and will play before others do. the solution to this is, as was just mentioned, to play the game.
brisk trail
Another spoiler question ||is there a way to reroll asterius lines, im trying to...
it's the worst aspect in the game, so no rush
opaque vine
Is there a way to trigger legendary boons? Trying to do that prophecy finding all legendary boons. Ive got the perk from the mirror but other than that is there a way to make them appear?
brisk trail
Is there a way to trigger legendary boons? Trying to do that prophecy finding al...
gods legacy in the mirror
opaque vine
gods legacy in the mirror
I wrote that i have it yes
rustic vale
I wrote that i have it yes
Using that gods keepsake, taking “favour” boons from Chaos, taking rarity boosting items from eurydice and wells all boost your legendary odds by 10% per option rolled on a boon
rustic vale
Is there a way to trigger legendary boons? Trying to do that prophecy finding al...
If you’re looking for the legendary boon from zeus, athena, artemis or poseidon you’re going to want to take their respective status effect inflicting boon
Static discharge / razor shoals / etc
As long as those are open, they have a 50% chance to take a priority slot for any boon reward you get
so them being open effectively removes an option that would otherwise be able to roll into a duo or legendary boon half the time
If any of your core boons (strike, special, cast, dash) are open then they have a 100% chance of taking a priority slot (collectively, one option will be one of your unfilled cores), but taking more cores opens up duos which will get in the way of you finding legendaries
so it’s kind of a balance there
opaque vine
Honestly i have tried everything but i cant get blown kiss from aphro or rip current from poseidon.
Ive done 20 plus runs for them. I slot in different things in attack special cast call and dash but they just dont drop it even when i re roll
Same with chaos boon defiance
rustic vale
Honestly i have tried everything but i cant get blown kiss from aphro or rip cur...
Blown kiss requires aphro cast
and rip current requires pos call
Do you have the codex?
In there there should be an option to look at god boonlists and see what they all do and their prerequisites
you need aphro cast for blown kiss because blown kiss only does something if you have aphro cast
same idea with rip current and pos call
rustic vale
Same with chaos boon defiance
Chaos Legendary has an un-alterable 1% chance to show up with the only prerequisite being having any of his boons prior
you can’t modify it higher
But you can also find it multiple times in a run like every other chaos boon so that’s the trade off right there
opaque vine
In there there should be an option to look at god boonlists and see what they al...
Thank you. I didnt know this ive just read how other people are getting it through luck basically but this makes sence Thank you
Wasted 4 hours 😅
opaque vine
In there there should be an option to look at god boonlists and see what they al...
Thank u got them both now in one run
opaque vine
But you can also find it multiple times in a run like every other chaos boon so ...
I usually get one max two chaos per run. Looking out for the item to buy a gate but this seem to be very rare. 1% is crazy
rustic vale
I usually get one max two chaos per run. Looking out for the item to buy a gate ...
1% per option so it’s like 3% but yeah
It’s low
The default for regular boons is 12% so it’s a pretty big drop
opaque vine
Yeah. Whats the drop rate for legendarys if u know?
All i have left is legendaries and defiance
rustic vale
Yeah. Whats the drop rate for legendarys if u know?
oh
I wordedthat badly
the default duo/legendary chance is 12% per option for regular boons like I said above
compared to chaos having an un-changeable 1%
opaque vine
Daamn. Ive seen maybe 7 legendaries in my playtime. That defiance is basically impossible then 😂
rustic vale
miniboss boon drops actually have worsened duo/legendary odds at 10% per option
rustic vale
Daamn. Ive seen maybe 7 legendaries in my playtime. That defiance is basically i...
I’ve had 1 run where I hit the chaos legendary twice but I didn’t pick it up the second time because I was speedrunning and damage was an option
opaque vine
I’ve had 1 run where I hit the chaos legendary twice but I didn’t pick it up the...
Shieet
I was hoping to do all prophecies but its really not worth just for a 12% chance to get all legendaries and the defiance one with 1-3%
rustic vale
I was hoping to do all prophecies but its really not worth just for a 12% chance...
It’s not that bad
Again that’s per option rolled on a boon reward
as long as your cores are filled and you’ve grabbed up the priority boon you have 3 shots at that 12% chance per boon reward you pick up
not to mention literally any chaos Favour boon, yarn of ariadne, relevant god keepsake and refreshing nectar from Eurydice give you a stacking +10% duo/legendary chance for every option rolled
There are a lot of ways to boost your odds and a lot of things you can do to maximise your chances at them
The only hard one is going to be chaos but you should just play the game and find it naturally, hunting it is going to drive you insane
opaque vine
The only hard one is going to be chaos but you should just play the game and fin...
Bro i just got it 😭
fallow yew
I had it appear once recently but didn't take it for some damn reason
I think I'd taken it before though cause I don't recall it having a scroll on it
solemn rapids
Yo guys I js got hades
small kettle
Currently sitting on a 32 heat run in asphodel with merciful end on Achilles spear wish me luck🙏
solemn rapids
Shield the best weapon in the game lowk my opinion
small kettle
I didn't get flurry jab nooooooooooooooooo😭
west schooner
the default duo/legendary chance is 12% per option for regular boons like I said...
Huh? I saw like a 6 legendary boons for 60h+ playtime
stiff obsidian
Are you saying that's less or a lot
small kettle
Going into 32 heat dad fight with Eris rail, cluster bomb, rocket bomb, epic ares special that deals like 300 damage, 4 death defiances, full health which is 240, Zeus legendary with Zeus attack wish me luck😭🙏
OMG I BEAT 32 HEAT YESSSSSSSSSSS😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
stiff obsidian
Going into 32 heat dad fight with Eris rail, cluster bomb, rocket bomb, epic are...
Praying for hades' soul
rustic vale
Huh? I saw like a 6 legendary boons for 60h+ playtime
And?
small kettle
Praying for hades' soul
I didn't know my build was that op😭😭
opaque vine
Alright boys and girls. Ive 100% the game now.
Maxed keepsakes, mirror, hearts, boons and prophecies. Clocked in 96 hours. What a game it was. On to hades 2 from here
narrow rose
I basically promised myself I won't get hades 2 until I beat the games true ending (apparently there is for a rougelike?)
small kettle
Gg I've yet to do that cause I keep making new saves😭
narrow rose
I heard i gotta beat a run 8 times
west schooner
I heard i gotta beat a run 8 times
10 for coming your mom back to home ig
native nacelle
Heyya fellers . Just got Hades 1 on Steam.
I beat it on Switch, but i wanted to play it again on a different... thing lol
tepid plover
I heard i gotta beat a run 8 times
Thats for the credits to roll yes, however theres more after
And is 10 runs
stiff obsidian
10 for coming your mom back to home ig
Spoilers
stiff obsidian
It's a spoiler cuz clearly they don't know what happens
west schooner
Who is mom?
tepid plover
It's a spoiler cuz clearly they don't know what happens
in all fairness spoilers are welcome here
stiff obsidian
Yes that's why I added that last part
tepid plover
also some people dont mind spoilers
native nacelle
Any neat differences between Switch & Steam (besides obvious)
narrow rose
Thats for the credits to roll yes, however theres more after
Do the runs get harder every time
tepid plover
Do the runs get harder every time
not on their own no, they are the same everytime, unless you set the hard modifiers
tepid plover
Any neat differences between Switch & Steam (besides obvious)
same game
tough lava
How do i absorb the special from the pew pew gun? i got some eris boon but idk how to utilise it
tepid plover
shoot your special and stand on it
tough lava
shoot your special and stand on it
doesnt work?
my attacks do the same damage even though its supposed to be plus 15%
tepid plover
dm me a clip
tough lava
dm me a clip
ok
rustic vale
doesnt work?
As long as you’re in the explosion radius when it hits the ground
you get it
Have you actually switched to the aspect, or do you still have zag rail equipped? (It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen it happen)
tepid plover
they thought aspects stacked on top of each other, instead of having to use each
should be all clear now
native nacelle
If i , Say, .... get DOOM on Attack....
Does that forbid getting DOOM on my Special ?
And if i sell my DOOM thing at the Bloody Fountain thing.....
.... Will it be appropriately reset, so that i can get Doom on my Special?
green dune
***And if i sell my DOOM thing at the Bloody Fountain thing.....***
.... Will i...
maybe
rustic vale
maybe
? Doesn’t even work like a lock out in the first place so selling it doesn’t even matter
small kettle
Damn it why did I cheat on my main save file😭😭
rustic vale
Damn it why did I cheat on my main save file😭😭
biggest brain move ever recorded?
What did you even do
small kettle
Just gave myself infinite nectar keys darkness and all that
But more importantly
Infinite rerolls and coin in the middle of a run😭
It was fun and worth but now my main save file has a sub 10 run that I'll have to work for to beat
rustic vale
Infinite rerolls and coin in the middle of a run😭
They’re calling it the most 3 iq move ever made
Sub10 shouldn’t be that bad to catch up to if you’ve already got one down though
willow aurora
I wish there was a jeweled Pom equivalent in this game I don’t like having to plan my builds in advance every single run
latent moon
It was fun and worth but now my main save file has a sub 10 run that I'll have t...
i mean it's definitely doable if you're willing to put in the work
most players can get a sub10 if they want to imo
granted knowing a good build, mirror, and pact do help a lot, but even without it it's doable
native nacelle
OK SO ......
HP: 0
Split Second Later
BOSS Dies ............ and i Revived?!?!
ZERO Death Defiance
native nacelle
I saw the death animation and everything,
Next thing i see, Meg dies and i have like 13hp somehow
latent moon
are you using stubborn defiance
native nacelle
Naahh
I just started New on Steam. It's only my.. 3rd or 4th run
Could the Timing of My Death & Boss' Death be "Cheese"ed ?
I'm starting to think that's what happened
tepid plover
I wish there was a jeweled Pom equivalent in this game I don’t like having to pl...
I mean just dont, jeweled pom just gave the boons some levels, which is nice but not needed by any means
hazy knot
Does anyone have any advice for Theseus and asterius with extreme measures on? Rn I have like 24 heat on and it feels like no where in the area is safe, I either get gunned down by Theseus or out ranged by asterius
brisk trail
Does anyone have any advice for Theseus and asterius with extreme measures on? R...
without EM you normally stay outside the pillars and fight Asterius there, but with EM it's the opposite and you stay in the center and Theseus mostly doesn't bother you
fallow yew
Just keep an eye on Theseus for if he does the machine gun charge. Otherwise he just doesn’t really do anything
twin thistle
Theseus only uses the gun charge move diagonally. as long as you learn his cues he doesnt do much
fallow yew
Just fist fight Astereus in the middle then deal with Theseus
brisk trail
also, goes without saying, but just drop Meg on them immediately to make the fight a lot shorter
then when you beat Asterius and knock Theseus off of his ride, just focus him down immediately, he's fully vulnerable during his god call
just keep dashing back and forth to dodge the god attacks, you should be able to kill him right there if your build is any good
cerulean otter
Starting a new save is funny because the story is like "I heard you finally made it into Asphodel.." meanwhile I made it there first run and all the way to the tunnels on my second run 😂
hazy knot
Thanks for the advice, before I came here I was trying to find other info and I was told almost the complete opposite of what you all said, to "stay on the outside" and "target a mixture of both" and other terrible stuff
lavish sorrel
Thanks for the advice, before I came here I was trying to find other info and I ...
To be clear, there are times where going to the outside is recommended. it lets you hide behind a pillar while theseus does his projectile attack. It's just that the rest of the time, the exterior is covered by his bombs.
Optimally, you want to damage both at once, but unless you care about speed this isn't something you need to keep in mind.
hazy knot
i typically hard target asterius if i'm just playing normally, only time i swap between the 2 often is if i'm using an artemis build and keep consistently marking them back to back
tepid plover
Yeah in an ideal scenario you just want to burst down the bull
grim parcel
does the rank advance thing do anything else outside of giving the fancy badge?
native nacelle
Would you rather have your Ares Boon Blade Rift " Pull Enemies In "
Or " __% Wider Area " ?
Assume the same Rarity
rustic vale
Would you rather have your Ares Boon **Blade Rift** " *Pull Enemies In* "
Or ...
Pull enemies in
You can pretty easily get enemies locked into your casts if you shoot a couple or stuck behind you if you do a couple dashes in the same ish area
native nacelle
Right on bro . I thought they'd be fairly comparable. the idea for both being to hit more enemies at once
cinder tartan
river of flame goes so damn hard
stiff obsidian
i only know rivers of blood
lavish sorrel
It's In The Blood, isn't it
drowsy kettle
i only know rivers of blood
elden ring reference 
fair lynx
Elden Cring
devout tundra
hallo
devout tundra
Elden Cring
yea so how do i heal in hades?
fair lynx
yea so how do i heal in hades?
For the most part, you don't
devout tundra
wtf?
brisk trail
yea so how do i heal in hades?
there's a fountain room after each boss
devout tundra
there's a fountain room after each boss
ummm wut?
brisk trail
it restores 20%-50% hp depending on upgrades
brisk trail
use the dodge button bro
fair lynx
There's heals after a region's boss and you'll eventually unlock a small heal (up to 3 HP) that triggers when you leave a room
fair lynx
Past that, you gotta pray for heals to be sold at Charon's shops and wells
devout tundra
Yeah, anti-bot measure
fair lynx
idk what they're called
Rooms or Locations
devout tundra
Past that, you gotta pray for heals to be sold at Charon's shops and wells
who is charon now bruuh?
fair lynx
who is charon now bruuh?
The shopkeeper
rustic vale
i keep dying after 4 rounds
Chambers
devout tundra
The shopkeeper
where's he located?
cursive pawn
https://youtu.be/rWKo9zBa5uI?si=MHuRfhsO_F-oeH54
this brings memories
fair lynx
Good song
rustic vale
where's he located?
He can randomly be one of the door options once per biome (aside from him being guaranteed as an option right before the boss of the biome)
it looks like a bag/sack
vast raven
and cant be the 12th chamber ^^
cursive pawn
welcome to roguelikes, you'll get the hang of it eventually
devout tundra
umm how do i swap weapons mid game btw?
brisk trail
umm how do i swap weapons mid game btw?
you don't
devout tundra
i bought a bow and arrow but i dont like it that much
fair lynx
umm how do i swap weapons mid game btw?
That's the neat thing
devout tangle
:smug;
devout tundra
i wanna get my sword back
fair lynx
The sword is bad
brisk trail
you can switch weapons when you die
devout tundra
oooooooooh
fair lynx
Or rather, the base Sword is
devout tangle
gun
fair lynx
Nemesis sword is alright
brisk trail
the sword is kinda ass because the 3 hit combo is a trap, you're not supposed to use regular attacks ever
it's special > dash strike > dash strike, repeat
devout tangle
🤤
cursive pawn
it's special > dash strike > dash strike, repeat
where have i seen this before
well technically the sword came before...
fair lynx
The game will get significantly easier once you get your second dash, BTW
cursive pawn
man I'll end up booting up hades today and doing a run
fair lynx
well technically the sword came before...
Plus in this game, you can just dash forever
Who needs movement keys when you have dash
drifting pelican
Hello 🙂
New to Discord. But consider myself a veteran when it comes to Hades/Hades2.. Just here to make friends and to learn what I don't know
granite musk
Anyone else likes the hidden aspect of the bow more than the base aspect?
I feel crazy for liking Rama's aspect more than Zagreus' especially since I run it with a crit build, but man, when it works, it feels good getting 3 000 damage crit shots
brisk trail
Rama is a pretty popular aspect, yes
one of the two to beat max heat (together with Zeus)
granite musk
Rama is a pretty popular aspect, yes
one of the two to beat max heat (together w...
Rama actually beat heat 64?
brisk trail
yeah
brisk trail
granite musk
that was amazing
it was really close at the end tho
3.28 seconds away from tight deadline
stiff obsidian
Did you know he did this with a hand behind his back
granite musk
Did you know he did this with a hand behind his back
twilit lodge
umm how do i swap weapons mid game btw?
Die
Keepsakes are the only loadout item you can swap mid run
And even that’s not allowed at first
Iirc
twin thistle
3.28 seconds away from tight deadline
ngl that was unironically not even close. Td doesnt kill you immediately so he had more than 30 seconds left lol and an acorn charge
warm phoenix
Does anyone else fall asleep to the game's soundtrack or is it just me? Heavy metal/ guitar is just so peaceful sometimes lol
brisk trail
someone pick a build for me to try and do
arctic blast chiron
you take demeter special then arctic blast
brisk trail
it's a fun build, give it a go, and only 2 boons to get it online
rugged yacht
yeah then its js f around and combine it with wtv you want
rustic vale
maybe on like 8 heat tho im not great on bow
Practice your dash-strikes so you never have to touch the standing strike again and it should improve a lot
granite musk
Practice your dash-strikes so you never have to touch the standing strike again...
this, this is number 1 advice for bow, it made me hate bow to loving bow as my second favorite weapon
brisk trail
dash in one direction, hold attack mid dash, change direction, release when the line on the floor is long
you will charge the power shot much faster
practice on Skelly until you can do it every time
though with Chiron you can get away with sloppy shots, as the aspect is more about marking enemies then unloading your specials
granite musk
oh, yeah, bow is better on controller
rustic vale
My advice is stop using bow if ur on keyboard
Real sage advice is to just use controller
granite musk
Real sage advice is to just use controller
I mean, I agree, but not everyone thinks that way
I always play this game on a controller because it just feels better to me
stiff obsidian
Real sage advice is to just use controller
Nah kbm control
How r u supposed to use any fast attacking weapon on controller
It's impossible
granite musk
How r u supposed to use any fast attacking weapon on controller
button mashing ftw
stiff obsidian
And correct me if I'm wrong but u can only dash strike in the direction you are dashing?
Feels practically unplayable
tepid plover
I personally never understood how these actions games thay require precise input are "recommended with controller"
fallow yew
And correct me if I'm wrong but u can only dash strike in the direction you are ...
You have to dash then instantly slam the stick in the other direction before attacking
It's like in a fighting game for doing a directional jump then a directional input
But RIP your left thumb
But yeah as long as you input the attack direction in-between dashing and pressing attack you still can get a directional attack separate of dash
They say "best on controller" but aside from omni-movement like... no
Having a mouse makes so many things just objectively better
stiff obsidian
Makes sense on monodash but I could never chain dashstrikes like that
fallow yew
Especially in hades 2 where one of the weapons can move while attacking and so if you want to aim you're forced to move in that direction
stiff obsidian
That one skull idr
fallow yew
Torches
fallow yew
Yeah torches your movement is slow while attacking but unlocked so you can't stand still on controller it's so ass
One of the hammers actively makes it worse cause it makes you move faster
KBM stays winning
Also Coat lets you freely aim your rockets while attacking since dash attack is linked to movement
Controller is honestly objectively worse in multiple ways when you move to a higher level in both games
H1 for dash attack spam and H2 for multiple weapons being functionally better with a mouse
stiff obsidian
I know somany top players using controller tho so that's what confuses me
Like what am I missing
lavish sorrel
KBM stays winning
Controller + mouse yoptimal 
Kbm has issues, most notably that there are situations where the player cannot dash through stuff because geometry is jank
fallow yew
I mean it really would be if I could do that
tepid plover
Kbm has issues, most notably that there are situations where the player cannot d...
Like what
fallow yew
Circles
Wanting to dash at an optimal angle and you just... cant
You either gotta dash straight in or you get hit
tepid plover
Dont think ive ever experienced that, the 8 directions has always been enough for me
lavish sorrel
Like what
have no example on-hand but you'll more often hear kbm players complain about "getting geometry'd" than controller players, istg this is real
fallow yew
I mean you never truly know the freedom of movement until you gain another 352 degrees of movement
tepid plover
Interesting, never have I been in a situation where I cant dash where I want
But it makes sense
stiff obsidian
Happens alot
fallow yew
I'm pretty sure I've died at least a few times in Hades 2 from being physically unable to dodge through an attack at the given angle
The bosses in H2 are BRUTAL when it comes to dash alignment in some cases
fallow yew
I'd have to take a physically suboptimal position or take a longer path because I couldn't dodge to where I wanted
lavish sorrel
Interesting, never have I been in a situation where I cant dash where I want
Ah, here's a toy example that illustrates what I mean:
The lounge's half-closed door. Dashing at the angle that should visually be straight through (-45°, so north-east) will not let you pass. Even dashing 1 degree closer to north lets you dash through the door.
Dad's triplespin also can be pretty precise to avoid with 1 dash and no 
. Phase 2 triplespins in the dadfight often accounts for about a quarter of all combined damage I take during fresh file 1boon runs.
The second one is to some extent a skill issue, but at the same time it can't just be that or the rate of triplespin damage taken to total damage taken would have gone down over time as I learn to avoid it
tepid plover
I was gonna say, as a single dash user, dad was never really problem, especially not the triple spin
wise drum
Which boon lets you hold square and can shoot unlimited times with no power shot?
wise drum
Sorry yes bow. Thank you!
willow aurora
Anyone else feel like forced overtime is way harder than frenzy is on hades 2? I feel like there’s just way more stuff to dodge in this game
wise vapor
Hey, can someone help me install a mod for Hades? I'm a bit confused about it.
latent moon
blade dash gaming
boreal laurel
@desert palm SCAMMER
stiff obsidian
wow tidal dash is hot garbage
remind me to never pick this up again lmao
actively detrimental
fallow yew
Very weapon dependent yeah. Does silly damage if an enemy doesn’t go flying across the damn room and you have stumpy fists that can’t reach that far
Really better to just go any other dash and not have to worry about sending the enemy you’re trying to kill into another time zone
lavish sorrel
Very weapon dependent yeah. Does silly damage if an enemy doesn’t go flying acro...
more like, heat-dependent. splash dash works on damn-near every aspect, the question is more whether the enemy will die from said dash. false side plays very high heat so the enemy doesn't die from a poseidon dash.
tepid plover
remind me to never pick this up again lmao
Dont forget to never pick tidal dash
fallow yew
more like, heat-dependent. splash dash works on damn-near every aspect, the ques...
Oh trust me I do find it VERY funny to play on low heat
But it is HORRIBLE on wards and in Elysium in my experience
stiff obsidian
i was in a room with 2 armored speedster wavemakers and it took me 1.5 mins to clear the room
lavish sorrel
curb your asphodel
stiff obsidian
cuz tdash kept yeeting them away
fallow yew
Actively making the enemies MORE slippery
lavish sorrel
"is water wet"-ass discussion
raw herald
Shoals solves the asphodel issue and breaking wave helps in ely and sticks
raw herald
dash better idk
warped pond
Am i just in shield jail until chaos feel like talking about it bruh
My last 5 achievements are all dialogue rng 💀 . Except keepsakes
stiff obsidian
bruh i made the perfect savestate then moved the file back instead of copying it
now i dont have it anymore
small kettle
Does anyone else like just watching hades deny claims?
tepid plover
Been fun sometimes
gritty topaz
Chat im almost beating a run on my ps5 acc but now im at another house so only access to my steam acc which is like 20 runs behind should i just do god mode on pc or will that ruin the story aspect for me🥹
Or resist playing on weekends
rustic vale
Chat im almost beating a run on my ps5 acc but now im at another house so only a...
God mode just gives you increasing amounts of damage resistance as you die more
It’s not going to make or break your story experience
gritty topaz
ahh ight
tepid plover
the story will remain the exact same
gritty topaz
i just took curse of drowning on bow fear this is not most optimal
sturdy terrace
I am trying to get the platinum trophy for hades and my last trophy is the night and darkness prophecy but I can’t get nyx to tell me about the elder sigil. The last dialogue I got from her is her saying she would think about it. Whenever I go to chaos or nyx, that both have their dialogues exhausted and say a default one. Am I missing something or do I need to keep talking to her. I kill myself at the start of runs to talk to her faster. Somebody please help me, I wanna move onto the second game
lavish sorrel
blade dash, no?
stiff obsidian
i have an emotional connect with it
fallow yew
What emotion is it?
stiff obsidian
idk , i sold it
fallow yew
So then apparently it was disdain
tepid plover
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1499796799005655211/xw...
the ring, looks expensive 🤑
stiff obsidian
my uncle gave that to me
small kettle
I just got offered poseidon cast in place of demeter cast, but I have crystal clarity. Does someone know what will happen if I replace it or should I take it for science??
stiff obsidian
you will just lose it and the duo would do nothing
small kettle
Ok thanks
vast raven
what do u even sell here
attack obviously
stiff obsidian
got mugged by lernie, stole all my boons
stiff obsidian
73 enmies
ayo nice pace
skipped fountain as well
and next room gives epic jolt
and then i died
rustic vale
and then i died
hazy knot
After being stuck for like 3 days, I finally beat the game at heat 25 with aspect of guan yu
native nacelle
Does choosing the Chaos gate mean there's technically 1 extra area in a run ?
vast raven
Does choosing the **Chaos** gate mean there's technically 1 extra area in a run ...
only under certain circumstances, if that chaos gate was entered while your endshop was offered then yes! it does add an extra chamber to your effective chamber count, under any other circumstance though it acts as a skip speeding up how long it takes to get to the end of a given region
native nacelle
Thank you!
warped pond
Done with all achievements. Did 32 heat and true hades. Probably time to hang it up.
Progression dialogue rng is too much but overall decent fun. Favorite moment was randomly deciding to use the music stand (never did this before or again) exactly before the thanatos room scene trigger. Hades theme blasting over my romantic yaoi scene is significantly more funny i must say
Does hades 2 have a hold click accessibility option, bc i must say this is 1 objectively terrible part about this
stiff obsidian
back to 60
stiff obsidian
doom start might be unoptimal
latent moon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1500150821881643008/w0...
tbf this might not be the worst thing lmao
latent moon
than ares?
vast raven
zeus be zeus
stiff obsidian
sharp phoenix
tried arthur for the first time without my coach and lost my streak cos i decided to not lower heat
i should've just waited for my coach to be back from work
small kettle
tried arthur for the first time without my coach and lost my streak cos i decide...
Your coach??? Please tell me it's not a real coach
sharp phoenix
hades coach
idk a good friend made me get hades and they might be the best sword player so they help me whenever i try something new
sharp phoenix
Your coach??? Please tell me it's not a real coach
nah it's my friend
who helps me learn quicker
small kettle
idk a good friend made me get hades and they might be the best sword player so t...
Call them your friend then😭
sharp phoenix
they have helped me get better at the game a lot quicker than if i went blind
small kettle
As long as you didn't pay or whatever
sharp phoenix
nah lol
small kettle
tried arthur for the first time without my coach and lost my streak cos i decide...
Streaks don't matter if they're below like 10 heat
sharp phoenix
i got the game cos they wanted me to and they help me when i'm trying new things
sharp phoenix
Streaks don't matter if they're below like 10 heat
it was technically 20 heat cos i play zag sword most of the time
i love zag sword
small kettle
i got the game cos they wanted me to and they help me when i'm trying new things
Aww that's nice. I had to suffer and get good naturally
sharp phoenix
i'm so much better at zag sword than anything else
stiff obsidian
isnt nemesis just zagsword but does more damage
sharp phoenix
Aww that's nice. I had to suffer and get good naturally
i do this for most games but my friend has like 20k hours so i thought i would use that to get good quicker
small kettle
i'm so much better at zag sword than anything else
Nemesis is way better and has the same mechanics as zag
Try it
sharp phoenix
Nemesis is way better and has the same mechanics as zag
yes, however, zag sword lambent plume is rly fun
small kettle
Arthur sucks if you don't know how to play it
sharp phoenix
i have never actually done a nemesis sword run
small kettle
yes, however, zag sword lambent plume is rly fun
Wait what does zag sword do? When you add titan blood?
sharp phoenix
i'll try one now
sharp phoenix
Wait what does zag sword do? When you add titan blood?
it's move speed for rush delivery
tepid plover
Wait what does zag sword do? When you add titan blood?
attack speed
sharp phoenix
attack speed doesn't matter
tepid plover
how so?
sharp phoenix
ur still dash strike dash strike specialing
sharp phoenix
i understand that nemesis is better for sure
i just love zag sword
every time i try a different weapon/ aspect i miss zag sword
vast raven
hades coach
(their coach is nalei for reference, all is fine)
small kettle
every time i try a different weapon/ aspect i miss zag sword
Do you play on pc?
sharp phoenix
Do you play on pc?
ye
small kettle
Do you play on pc?
If so try achilles spear and make sure to use the special for movement a lot
stiff obsidian
(their coach is nalei for reference, all is fine)
yea i remember
for a sec i thought a coach off fiverr or something
😭
small kettle
If so try achilles spear and make sure to use the special for movement a lot
It's now my favorite aspect ever
sharp phoenix
my sensei thinks i would also love arthur so i should try to play it more
sharp phoenix
It's now my favorite aspect ever
whenever i play spear i miss playing sword
small kettle
my sensei thinks i would also love arthur so i should try to play it more
Now he became your sensei😭
small kettle
whenever i play spear i miss playing sword
Have you tried achilles spear though?
sharp phoenix
Now he became your sensei😭
i live in japan rn so seemed fitting
small kettle
which ones is this?
The one that makes you zoom towards your thrown spear
sharp phoenix
i did one run with it
sharp phoenix
i also watched alexis speedrun it a few times and i loved the 2 room tech of throwing your spear before the rooms are revealed
sharp phoenix
Hmm. You didn't enjoy it?
it was fun
idk
i think that spear and fists fall in the category of i would rather be playing sword
i recently got the 10k enemies killed achievement and 8k of those enemies were on sword
small kettle
i think that spear and fists fall in the category of i would rather be playing s...
Sword is getting some INSANE glaze rn
sharp phoenix
oh
stiff obsidian
sharp phoenix
it might be that alexis is a sword main and taught me most of what i know but i just rly enjoy it
it wasn't rude dw i just forgot that this server doesn't allow any swear words
small kettle
Idk whenever I try to copy someone else's build it just doesn't go well at all even the dio bow build sucks for me
I'd rather play with the attack than the special for bows
sharp phoenix
that is why alexis is such a good teacher, she taught me the basics of what is good and when it is good as the first thing
so i can instinctively make a build even if i haven't played the aspect before
sharp phoenix
I'd rather play with the attack than the special for bows
i don't rly like aspects that don't let every button be a viable form of damage
i love weaving in every source of damage in the kit
so i rly like chiron on bow
and rama
haven't played the others
i don't rly like it when one of the moves is just useless
which tbf i've only had on base bow and base shield
if someone wants to teach me an aspect that i haven't played i'm kinda bored rn so cld be fun
alexis is at work
stiff obsidian
play eris
sharp phoenix
ite, which weapon is that?
stiff obsidian
rail
sharp phoenix
oh i've played this one
i don't rly know what's good other than zeus on attack
wanna ghost me?
stiff obsidian
i don't rly know what's good other than zeus on attack
yea then static discharge
and then stuff like pressure points, hunter mark, support fire, artemis/aphro special , blade dash, zeus/dio/poseidon call
delta chamber #1 hammer
sharp phoenix
yea then static discharge
i did know this much lol, zeus wants discharge and call and if the weapon supports it one of the attacks
stiff obsidian
yea
sharp phoenix
and then stuff like pressure points, hunter mark, support fire, artemis/aphro sp...
i'm always gonna be tidal dash over anything else
stiff obsidian
alright
sharp phoenix
delta chamber #1 hammer
what's this?
stiff obsidian
hammer for rail
sharp phoenix
i've barely played gun but loved triple shot
i thought triple shot was just the best
stiff obsidian
delta chamber makes using it braindead easy
nah even among special hammers rocket bomb is best
sharp phoenix
and then stuff like pressure points, hunter mark, support fire, artemis/aphro sp...
i don't like hunter's mark without something better than pressure points to activate it tbh
stiff obsidian
for eris its enough
sharp phoenix
nah even among special hammers rocket bomb is best
this the thing that gives u the rpg right?
i like that one
i've only done i think 9 gun runs but that one seems rly strong
the base damage is so high
stiff obsidian
pressure points is enough for u to crit once every 2-3 seconds and thats enough to consistently trigger hunters mark
stiff obsidian
this the thing that gives u the rpg right?
yea
fickle aspen
for the war god’s bloodlust prophecy, does it count if you killed 10k enemies before activating the prophecy or after
sharp phoenix
pressure points is enough for u to crit once every 2-3 seconds and thats enough ...
rly? like at common it's 2% requiring 50 instances of attack damage
wait
does zeus attack work with pressure points
oh ye it does
ofc
it's everything
so if that's at 50%
stiff obsidian
yea
sharp phoenix
it triggering on everything is broken for sure
stiff obsidian
lots of instances of damage so crits come out pretty often
sharp phoenix
as zag sword lambent plume main i understand how crazy buffing tidal dash damage is
sharp phoenix
with zag sword u can just bully them next to a wall
it's pretty easy to do that
i have learned that tempest strike is potentially the worst attack boon in the game
but tidal dash will forever be my third favourite boon
fickle aspen
for the war god’s bloodlust prophecy, does it count if you killed 10k enemies be...
does anyone know or naw
stiff obsidian
not sure
sharp phoenix
for the war god’s bloodlust prophecy, does it count if you killed 10k enemies be...
i finished the prophecy at exactly 10k total kills yesterday
so it counts before u unlock it
fickle aspen
thx
rotund hazel
How do i achieve the 30 percent damage with butterfly thingy? Its max and i have reached 28 so many times but its hard to no hit elusiyum and styx
sharp phoenix
How do i achieve the 30 percent damage with butterfly thingy? Its max and i have...
play shield
i've barely played shield but no hitting with like zeus shield was kinda free
if ur charging a bull rush with ur special out ur doing damage while not taking damage
rotund hazel
i've barely played shield but no hitting with like zeus shield was kinda free
I get farther in the goal with bow, shield dps is too slow for me
I get hit before i can kill ppl
sharp phoenix
I get farther in the goal with bow, shield dps is too slow for me
try zeus shield with forcing zeus as the start
rotund hazel
try zeus shield with forcing zeus as the start
Whats forcing zeus
sharp phoenix
i have done that twice and got bored with how easy it is
sharp phoenix
Whats forcing zeus
use zeus keepsake
it forces zeus as the boon
other than hammer
rotund hazel
use zeus keepsake
I gotta have butterfly on
sharp phoenix
oh mb ur right
it's still definitely shield
and i think zeus shield
aphrodite on zeus shield is fine
u can just special charge bull rush...
rotund hazel
4 runs with heart seeking bow and +28 on it, it pmo so much
sharp phoenix
do that the whole time
sharp phoenix
4 runs with heart seeking bow and +28 on it, it pmo so much
which aspect is this?
rotund hazel
which aspect is this?
Chiron
sharp phoenix
oh that's my second most played aspect
idk
i think zeus shield is easier to not take damage
charging bull rush makes u basically invincible
and with zeus shield u can do that while doing damage
zeus or aphrodite are fantastic
rotund hazel
What boon do i try and get with aphrodite
sharp phoenix
u want special damage
so special
special is the main damage source as sensei told me
zeus is the best
aphrodite is good
just cos big percent
with zeus shield u can special charge bull rush then repeat
rotund hazel
Aight ill try tmrw, hopefully plume achievement aint that hard
sharp phoenix
and charging bull rush makes it very easy to not take damage
sharp phoenix
Aight ill try tmrw, hopefully plume achievement aint that hard
as someone who has 80% of my gametime using plume, what's the plume achievement
my coach apparently invented plume as a zag sword strategy
rotund hazel
as someone who has 80% of my gametime using plume, what's the plume achievement
Reaching +20 dodge chance with llume
sharp phoenix
Reaching +20 dodge chance with llume
this is so easy ngl
i end most plume runs at 30+
sharp phoenix
so zag sword is basically the speedrun weapon that can technically use plume as the keepsake
according to sensei
it's not the strongest aspect tho
but plume does something which isn't obvious from the description
it unlocks rush delivery
potentially the best boon in the game
to get rush delivery you either need a hermes move speed boon
or plume
rustic vale
so zag sword is basically the speedrun weapon that can technically use plume as ...
zag sword and speedrun aspect in the same sentence 🥀
sharp phoenix
my sensei has most of the sword world records i believe
and she only runs plume on zag sword
sharp phoenix
idk
my main is plume zag sword cos that's what my teacher taught me and i find it rly fun
i understand it's one of the weaker aspects
but it's so fun to play with
i am kinda pissed off with nalei tho cos they said they would do coop elden ring with me like 3 months ago and they still haven't
i want to be better at a game than him
and of the games we both have played i only have souls
rustic vale
You know what
sharp phoenix
and hollow knight technically
sharp phoenix
is it alexis?
sharp phoenix
that make sme unhappy
rustic vale
unless they mainly do runs for a different category than anyheat modded
sharp phoenix
nalei just dropped knowledge on me
which i am struggling to understand
Nalei — 03:58
oh i cant believe i forgot to tell you about the arthur dash strike tech
so to dash strike you press dash and attack at the same time, yeah? but instead of pressing attack, hold it and your next attack will be a perfectly timed dash strike too with no risk of accidentally doing a standing strike
am i holding dash or attack?
oh i'm dumb
it was explained
i hold attack
sharp phoenix
i got called better than 99% of players by my coach, i am very happy- i am starting to speedrun sword for the first time since i was very new
lavish sorrel
this you probably are!
iron bramble
I wish I had a Hades coach 😂
sharp phoenix
i have encountered my first blatant glitch
the act 3 shop will not let me buy the first option
and i have the money
it's a failed merciful end build so it's not gonna pb or anything but like
i want the shop health
nm i was at full health i am stupid
i am so used to lasting consequences that i didn't realist the fountain would heal me
lavish sorrel
the act 3 shop will not let me buy the first option
visual bug that can happen at any shop after buying an item
(idr the requirement for it to appear but I'm sure someone else knows. probably repeated interacting.)
latent moon
i got called better than 99% of players by my coach, i am very happy- i am start...
tbf if you decide to get more into speedrunning and past like sub9 you're already better than the vast majority lmao
most people don't even go for sub10 and the ones that do stop there
and speedrunning/high heat isn't really a large community realistically speaking (for h1, idk about h2)
sharp phoenix
most people don't even go for sub10 and the ones that do stop there
i did sub 10 as my first objective after beating the game given my coach is a speedrunner lol
latent moon
I wish I had a Hades coach 😂
a good handful of people here are willing to help with any type of hades content as long as you ask here lmao
sharp phoenix
sub 10 was kinda a grind tho i did like 2 hours of non optimal mirror/ heat then got it on my second try doing optimal mirror and heat settings
latent moon
if you want specific feedback, the hades speedrunning server has a vod review channel and someone is generally willing to review your gameplay, whether it be for speed or heat
sharp phoenix
if you want specific feedback, the hades speedrunning server has a vod review ch...
luckily for me i have nalei who will review/ ghost whenever she is available
stiff obsidian
ok we get it
sharp phoenix
also why i am a zag sword main
stiff obsidian
a good handful of people here are willing to help with any type of hades content...
yes this server is starving for content
sharp phoenix
i have a lot of aspects i need to be a lot better in
mainly knowing what each normal room requires
i do not know most rooms
stiff obsidian
wdym
latent moon
you dont really need to know room layout/spawn manips that much until like sub7ish
stiff obsidian
99% of it is just , go to a corner
latent moon
a general idea helps but i wouldn't grind actually knowing them unless you want to get sub6, but at your current point it's prob more mechanical/build skill rather than that
also yeah go in a corner lmao
sharp phoenix
you dont really need to know room layout/spawn manips that much until like sub7i...
that is good to know, i have one sub 10 which was my 9:20 when i first put on the faster movement enemies, then that got yeated for some reason when i went on holiday for 2 weeks so now i just got back into trying to beat the game fast cos i don't wanna seem like a chud without a sub 10
my sub 10 was actually my second try on 40% faster enemies btw i was very slow the first time cos i lost my death defiances early
stiff obsidian
i remember when i started 'running' bananas and jazz wer helping
i went from 12 to sub 8 over 4 runs
latent moon
99% of sub10 is just getting the right pact/mirror/build and decent gameplay lmao
sharp phoenix
i am open to pretty much any help, alexis is at work rn and i'm good at the sword damage cycle but kinda suck at the rest
jagged hamlet
Try Zagbow! It's literally just Dash-Strike
sharp phoenix
99% of sub10 is just getting the right pact/mirror/build and decent gameplay lma...
my sub 10 was common rush delivery level 7 tidal dash with a lot of room skips lol
sharp phoenix
Try Zagbow! It's literally *just* Dash-Strike
i like weaving in specials ngl
i like chiron cos everything u can use is good
latent moon
my sub 10 was common rush delivery level 7 tidal dash with a lot of room skips l...
proves that with cleaner gameplay it could've been lower lmao
literally just aiming to improve mechanically is gonna be more worthwhile than praying to get good rooms
latent moon
i like weaving in specials ngl
preferably do not if you want to go faster lmao
sharp phoenix
i have done 2 runs of rama where everything is good and realised the aspect has an insanely high skill ceiling where my wins were just being carried by how strong the aspect is
latent moon
chiron kinda just poops the bed when it comes to speed