hope I get smth good :D
#h1-discussion
placid coral
rustic vale
we’re at off peak hours anyways you’re only looking at like 5 people seeing your messages max
placid coral
ok genuine question
how do I kill the mini chariots with the fists
like every other weapon has some solution
rustic vale
great question: it’s been so long since I used fists that I cannot remember what I do
placid coral
but the fists are just screwed lol
rustic vale
I believe your special or d-upper has the range but it’s annoying if there are multiple after you at once
Unless you can line the up properly
otherwise it’s cast and kite
Chariots alone bring Long Knuckle up to like top 5 fists hammers
placid coral
ok
rustic vale
Everything else Long Knuckle does brings it to like top2
rustic vale
EXPLOSIVE ❤️
I love making my d-upper have aoe and just giving it a heck of a lot of additive
Let me double check the actual radius on explosive upper brb
Unironically just shy of explosive return it’s not too bad
450 compared to 550
rustic vale
Explosive return is a really really good demeter hammer I just got side tracked
placid coral
but ok
rustic vale
No, explosive upper, not explosive return whoops
placid coral
explosive upper
flying cutter (again???)
Rush kick
flying cutter TWICE
rustic vale
I mistyped
rustic vale
flying cutter TWICE
Not uncommon?
there are 12 hammers like the odds of you finding another one you started with are like approximately I don’t wanna do math right now
Another night
rustic vale
You have 4 gods right
placid coral
hang on
rustic vale
zeus ares dem aph
placid coral
zeus ares dem aph
yep
rustic vale
Random boon gives you a shot at any of those 4 so I’d do it and bank on zeus or aph coming up tbh
Although Hermes could pull up if you haven’t hit your hermes boons yet
placid coral
(well yea I just call them that cause I'm too oopid to remember names)
I'm guessing I want the jerky? considering I haven't used any defiance yet
rustic vale
Anyways Patty always has 3 things as options so you can honestly decide for yourself based on the current circumstances of your run
Whether or not you want to take his room
rustic vale
decide what you want before you take the patty room because sometimes it’s not more valuable than just grabbing the other door 
placid coral
hmm
rustic vale
wait no I haven't even fought the midboss
What chamber are you in
placid coral
29
rustic vale
Without extensions the Theseus fight is always chamber… 36
placid coral
oh dang
rustic vale
and then the free room before that is 35
rustic vale
I mean ofc the patty room is a free room but you aren’t time limited and a boon is a boon
placid coral
so I can still do that lol
rustic vale
jerky doesn’t really do much on fists
rustic vale
At least it wasn’t more
rustic vale
Also as far as I can remember you aren’t guaranteed a midboss fight in any of the biomes
placid coral
call
ravenous will
killing freeze
rustic vale
oh decisions decisions
Demeters generic tier twos are the only thing that make her remotely ok
placid coral
I have zeus in the group so obviously not call
rustic vale
Eh any call with smouldering air is good, demeter just isn’t zeus
But ravenous will is also pretty nice
placid coral
considering I barely use cast
rustic vale
and killing freeze is just me being biased
rustic vale
considering I barely use cast
Under normal circumstances you’d have a lodging cast and so it’d be a lot more practical tbf
I forgot it was blades
placid coral
blades be funny
I think I have magnet blades tho so if that changes anything somehow
rustic vale
Ravenous will is nice because it’s legit just free damage and damage reduction for popping off a boiling blood and then two more casts
rustic vale
I think I have magnet blades tho so if that changes anything somehow
It’s still a little awkward because the casts end up dragging the enemies around sorta ineffectivel
But
It is improvement
placid coral
considering my only chill inflicting thing is my special I'd go with will
rustic vale
Yeah just take will I suppose
Killing Freeze is a personal bias pick from me rather than like
placid coral
NOOOO
rustic vale
a good hard evidence based pick
placid coral
I MISSED AN ELYSEUM FISH
rustic vale
which goes against everything I stand for but Nyaanyaa Mewmew lives on in my heart
placid coral
:C
rustic vale
:(
rustic vale
eh 100 obols is far safer tbh
placid coral
OW
rustic vale
I can see what else you’d have to pick up from those gods but
Trials are just asking to take extra damage
placid coral
2 DEATHS FROM ONE ROOM :C
placid coral
I can see what else you’d have to pick up from those gods but
yeah uhh
maybe I should have picked the obels
rustic vale
yeah uhh
Trials are generally avoided for serious higher heat attempts because it’s honestly not worth the hastle
You can’t get your duo out of it, the enemies are moving and attacking faster so there is just more on the screen to pay attention to and generally
It’s just asking to get hit
placid coral
You can’t get your duo out of it, the enemies are moving and attacking faster so...
you cant??
dang
well I got ares's legendary so I'm happy
fates go brr
one cast did 1000 damage :D
I love the good shade
rustic vale
well I got ares's legendary so I'm happy
Ares Legendary try not to lie to the player challenge level: impossible
placid coral
Ares Legendary try not to lie to the player challenge level: impossible
even if it sucks it marks another boon of the fates list
rustic vale
I mean
rustic vale
Tbh I’d rather take the other two blade buffing boons but
placid coral
how effective is that on hades?
placid coral
Tbh I’d rather take the other two blade buffing boons but
do you only get one?
rustic vale
Ares Legendary gives the full amount to Ares Call, only adds 1 damage per for slicing shot and dash, and it 0 on slicing flare iirc
rustic vale
do you only get one?
No you can get both
I might be crazy but I’d lowkey have whichever blade secondary I’m missing that the legendary (might change depending on rarity)
rustic vale
how effective is that on hades?
It still interupts Hades but it can lead to some rather unpredictable attack timings when the charm wears off
it only interupts bosses for like
A fraction of the time
A small fraction
Still useful but potentially hazardous
placid coral
ok
rustic vale
Honestly the blade boons might be have the highest ratio of “yeah the game code actually does something slightly differently than what the game tells you”
rustic vale
Do you have a call right now
placid coral
no
rustic vale
all I can see you getting from aph are broken resolve or sweet surrender atp
I’d just go for max hp
rustic vale
Oh you’re in a shop
placid coral
welp
rustic vale
I mean what’d you get
placid coral
here goes nothing
placid coral
I mean what’d you get
25 health
placid coral
krill issue
but also I was paying very close attention
and uhh
camping just a little
lazer
I was behind a wall and it just took me from 100 to zero in like 2 seconds
rustic vale
Happens
atomic nebula
mreoww
timid basalt
Just finished a run without a fishing point appearing (first time). I guess, as a low frequency bad luck event, that can happen?
rustic vale
Just finished a run without a fishing point appearing (first time). I guess, as...
Yeah it’d be rather low odds
low dove
Does the furies damage you while they are spinning ?
harsh scroll
I'm slowly learning how to play Achilles. Very fun lot
indigo badge
I'm slowly learning how to play Achilles. Very fun lot
carpal tunnel simulator!!
unless you're playing with controller
highly recommend you do that for achilles
mint coral
Achilles controller so fun till the stickiest aim assist of the game happens
placid coral
I swear
there's like some type of cost to using aspect of demeter
I've been forced to take a boon from her twice in a row
rustic vale
Aspects don't affect your god pool in the slightest as far as I know
They don’t
snow hemlock
Guys help pls
I was looking at rhe guides for the final hearts
It says ares should just unlock after uve slain like 2k enemies
Brother i am at 19k
Is there anything else or is this just luck 😭
mint coral
It says ares should just unlock after uve slain like 2k enemies
Have your received his prophecy to kill 10k enemies
snow hemlock
Yeah i finished it
mint coral
Huh ig he's screwing you with the dialogue trigger only then
Can't do much about that except keep talking
placid coral
how does the end screen know which boons/hammers to show
wait a second
how do I get the fish in greece
mint coral
how do I get the fish in greece
Dad's arena will have fishing spots
rustic vale
how does the end screen know which boons/hammers to show
It picks like 3 random boons (with priority on highest rarities) 1 legendary/duo and 1 hammer I believe
mint coral
Is why maxed aspects/max summons get usually picked
rustic vale
but you can easily rearrange the pinned boons yourself in game if you want to make a more accurate/representative victory screen
placid coral
Dad's arena will have fishing spots
imagine you could just fish in the middle of patricide
what's the highest level of guan yu?
mint coral
50% hp
mint coral
Only the spin
hoary aspen
i'm not catching ANY new fish this SUCKS 💔
and now charon just kicked my ass
this run keeps getting worse
whatever my boy patroclus can restore my death defiances anyway
winter scarab
i'm not catching ANY new fish this SUCKS 💔
If you want surface dish do the dad exploit
winter scarab
what the flip is that
After beating dad fish without collecting rewards
Save and quit after catching
Reopen save
Collect rewards and fish
snow hemlock
For some reason, i dont like any of the secret aspects i have so far 😭
It just seems like theres better ones around, idk if this is me issue
lavish sorrel
It just seems like theres better ones around, idk if this is me issue
Thing about the secret aspects in hades is that they all have slow animations. They're generally powerful (though there is an exception to this) when used right, but may feel clunky to play.
final anvil
I’m watching indie cross and zags sword popped up
final anvil
I have to watch that
It’s so good
sterile geyser
Authority granted companions against Hades
hollow tusk
Thing about the secret aspects in hades is that they all have slow animations. T...
Everyone knows Gilgamesh is the most powerful right? right???
hoary aspen
<:cluelesseline:902180197107916870>
good luck with the bone hydra gng
lavish sorrel
good luck with the bone hydra gng
good luck with anything, frankly
gilga is so bad
hollow tusk
Everyone knows Gilgamesh is the most powerful right? right???
but for real the reason i started playing with the was the Gilgamesh aspect since it was from my country but it was disappointing and i really tried to love it
hollow tusk
gilga is so bad
i know i was joking
hoary aspen
no like not sarcastic i noticed you were about to fight the bone hydra
i saw it in your little profile
timid basalt
I was going to ask this afternoon if there is a pre-condition that needs to be met before you get offered Legendary boons. (I've played before, but am starting a new file on PS5.) I've been having the required setup boons, but no luck (only 3% on the related ability in the mirror - need more darkness).
But you're going to laugh - I just got my first Legendary on this file - from Chaos!! 😄
latent moon
respectfully, what the actual f
that's actually insane lmfao
technically speaking there's less requirements to get the chaos legendary, but it's so much harder and so many people complain about never getting it
it's literally a 1% chance while other legendaries are 10 or 12%
timid basalt
Agree! On my previous save file, Chaos was the last one I got! 😅
winter scarab
For some reason, i dont like any of the secret aspects i have so far 😭
Which weapon is your favorite and what do you like about the weapon, that’s a good way to think about aspect picking. Also remember that aspects don’t always play like their description and have hidden features
placid coral
so uhh
dear lord demeter is def the most annoying theseus fight
owe
FINALLY
ALL 6 WEAPONS COMPLETE
HECK YEA
so what do I spend this titan blood on?
I have an extra 10 now
frozen lynx
I have an extra 10 now
I would first pick your fav and read what the power will do. Don't wanna waste it on a power up, that doesn't go with your play style. And so end up not using.
You could even look up, what the powers look like in action on yt. If you wanna be extra extra sure.
placid coral
well so far I've enjoyed zeus, demeter has been cool for the 2 runs I've done
skelly pranked me so I have that maxed :/
Achilles seems fun, but haven't done a run yet
how much titans blood do you need to max everything anyhow?
rustic vale
how much titans blood do you need to max everything anyhow?
210 iirc
That sounds wrong now that I say it
It’s 306 I was
misremembering like crazy
240 is the max you can get from purely just knocking off your bounties
winter scarab
240 is the max you can get from purely just knocking off your bounties
Extra 12 for the 0 heat bounties
rustic vale
Extra 12 for the 0 heat bounties
Also correct
placid coral
so all of this said, you also need about 50 ambrosia to fully upgrade everything
rustic vale
I'm on heat 13 and I feel im getting out of easy options
I mean
Which ones did you consider easy options
placid coral
well on 3 with sword but still
a how many levels does it take for tight deadline to be a hard option
rustic vale
a how many levels does it take for tight deadline to be a hard option
Like 50+?
Tight Deadline is pretty much always a good option
placid coral
like on its own it's not that bad
rustic vale
Like
placid coral
but having (I think) 4 minutes to clear each level seems tough
especially if you stack on other stuff
rustic vale
It’s 5 minutes and it carries over to the next area
placid coral
o
rustic vale
all the time you have left over carries over
placid coral
well yea I knew that part
rustic vale
Jury summons,Calisthenic program,ex messuare 3 only I haven’t tried 4
these are lowkey the ones you put off till 50 heat
Jury Summons, Calesthenics Program and Extreme Measures 4 I mean
placid coral
jury summons seems like a painful combo with tight deadline
rustic vale
Extreme Measures 3 is pretty normal for this state in the game
placid coral
like dude I'm in a hurry get outta here
rustic vale
Jury summons, damage control and calesthenics program all suck for that reason
placid coral
also how bad is the trap thing
placid coral
Jury summons, damage control and calesthenics program all suck for that reason
damage control doesn't seem all too bad unless you have some kinda 1 shot thing
rustic vale
also how bad is the trap thing
It doesn’t seem that bad till you make a tiny mistake and now you just took 80 trillion damage in Styx or 150 at the dad fight
placid coral
fists and gun™️ can counter like 2 hits pretty easy
rustic vale
damage control doesn't seem all too bad unless you have some kinda 1 shot thing
DC is really mainly viable on like fists and rail
placid coral
but the spear might have trouble
rustic vale
aside from that it’s just not a good option
placid coral
the bow seems like it'd be the 3rd best
rustic vale
What?
placid coral
considering the special
placid coral
ma?
rustic vale
Yeah but then you actually have to press the special button on bow
gilded quest
these are lowkey the ones you put off till 50 heat
What heat options do you recommend?
rustic vale
Spear actually isn’t half bad at it cuz it does a ton of hits fast for achilles
placid coral
What heat options do you recommend?
well def at least one tight deadline
gilded quest
Im in my 91 run only
placid coral
maybe more if you can go fast
what's the hardest combination of 3 different pacts each maxed out
rustic vale
What heat options do you recommend?
Tight deadline 1 at the very least, turn it higher based off your average clear times. Then you can do Extreme Measures 2 or 3, Benefits packages, underworld custom
rustic vale
what's the hardest combination of 3 different pacts each maxed out
Routine Inspection, Extreme Measures, Calesthenics Program
gilded quest
Ima try ex messuares 4 n jury summons max
rustic vale
Yokes
RI removes all mirror perks
Well
It removes 3 per level going from the bottom up
rustic vale
Ima try ex messuares 4 n jury summons max
I would not run this pact lol
gilded quest
I would not run this pact lol
Wait like 20m and I will tell ya if I get cooked or i cooked
placid coral
: (
placid coral
Wait like 20m and I will tell ya if I get cooked or i cooked
gl lol
gilded quest
But is ex messures 4 that hard?
stiff obsidian
Yes
placid coral
||doesn't hades do a funny third phase?|| (please don't spoil yourself here, it's actually cool)
gilded quest
But is ex messures 4 that hard?
Yk what
Im good
I search a video
Never trying it
placid coral
Never trying it
pff
north sonnet
On rama would u special all the lernie heads first or is special into some kind of dash powershot faster
fervent radish
On rama would u special all the lernie heads first or is special into some kind ...
special all the heads and then try to get one shot that hits multiple heads
should kill in 1-2 shots
north sonnet
Ok thx
north sonnet
Does eurydice rarity bonus apply to duo boons?
stiff obsidian
The nectar yes
latent moon
Never trying it
it's fun to do every once in a while
or at least do once just to say you've done it
or if you go a really high damage build, see how fast it takes to kill dad
fervent radish
Never trying it
It’s pretty fun if you ever get bored of normal dad
hoary aspen
i'm never picking middle management again why was the voidstone huge
hoary aspen
what the flip is EM
hoary aspen
i'm never picking middle management again why was the voidstone huge
it got worse
how did they manage to make styx enemies even more annoying
stiff obsidian
there are just 2 of them
copper sedge
Maxed out Aspect of Zagreus + Epic Swift Strike + Flurry Slash + Cursed Blade
We are gaming so hard rn
hoary aspen
there are just 2 of them
and they both SUCK
one poisons me and the other one goes raaahhhhh and does too much damage
copper sedge
Maxed out Aspect of Zagreus + Epic Swift Strike + Flurry Slash + Cursed Blade
We...
I outheal satyr poison for goodness' sake
hoary aspen
why wont fate let me persuade the hammers 💔
i just need special hammers please bro
why do you have to give me the worst hammers possible
snow hemlock
Every run w spear i do i pray to the gods for flurry jab and it never happens
mint coral
be sure you aren't running hades or hidden spear
atomic nebula
does boiling blood give +200% with four blood gems in an enemy or does it not stack
mint coral
does boiling blood give +200% with four blood gems in an enemy or does it not st...
not stack
placid coral
so uhh
I did a funny
run
revenge goes hard
got Zeus, Ares, Athena, and demeter
I wish I got the weird chill damage thing tho
that would've made it even better
harsh scroll
You got Vengeful Mood right
indigo badge
what aspects should i get
open sigil
https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/725021347968712724/9904412487604...
I'm not a new player though
I finished the game before in 2020 or 2021
Just forgot everything
lost dew
he's linking to a message in there
harsh scroll
Give him not a hit more, then
placid coral
so
I think I've gotten demeter
like
4 runs in a row
I'm going insane
which Hermes boon is the best (assuming it's an epic boon)
depending on what bosses/minibosses you fight
decay seems like an interesting effect
mint coral
ideally always hyper sprint (rarity doesn't matter) into epic rush delivery
or greatest reflex
placid coral
or greatest reflex
6 dash go brr
(I think anyway)
that would be if Hermes boons can be heroic
mint coral
only through eurydice
placid coral
huh
placid coral
o that was a that makes sense huh
mint coral
6 dash go brr
can get up to 8 with fists's hidden aspect too
placid coral
can get up to 8 with fists's hidden aspect too
oh dear
mint coral
(usully 7 due to using ruthless instead of greater)
and also hidden fists dashes are shorter and with larger cooldown than normal dashes
placid coral
that plus arti's dash would be fun
mint coral
oh I can share the joke
placid coral
?
mint coral
a dash strike from the hidden aspect without any buffs can't kill a numbskull in one shot
it does 20 dmg and numbskulls have 25 hp
mint coral
that plus arti's dash would be fun
imagine tidal dash instead
placid coral
imagine tidal dash instead
combo with nothing but a dash
mint coral
dash only is an actual speedrun category
placid coral
4 runs in a row
but uhh
mint coral
was gonna ask were you pressing give up for those runs or just actual bad luck
placid coral
was gonna ask were you pressing give up for those runs or just actual bad luck
Just bad luck
mint coral
rip
placid coral
I don't use give up past the first room if I forgot a keepsake or smth
which weapon is the hardest counter to theseus?
placid coral
lol
fair
(note, I've seen the credits, my last run was with cursed slash so I was lucky hades just let me leave)
placid coral
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857268448039927858/1198409640191479868/35...
what kind of build is this
placid coral
beowulf shield with dio's cast
ah
mint coral
beowulf has an important bug with its casts
summer hazel
Where does all the extract damage come from? Charon well buffs?
mint coral
charon well/chaos/rush delivery
mint coral
beowulf has an important bug with its casts
while using any flare cast (so any cast with beo* or trippy flare on hera)
the 2nd cast created by mirage shot doesn't get reduced dmg
placid coral
while using any flare cast (so any cast with beo* or trippy flare on hera)
the 2...
hera?
mint coral
hera bow
mint coral
mint coral
while using any flare cast (so any cast with beo* or trippy flare on hera)
the 2...
the * is for icy flare/thunder flare where the bug doesn't work because it feels like it
placid coral
calling it a nuke will always remind me of omori lol
mint coral
(thunder flare actually doesn't work with any cast dmg increase boon as it has 0 cast dmg)
mint coral
beowulf has an important bug with its casts
the other funny bug is trippy flare on beowulf only (hera not because idk)
all pom gives double the value that they show
placid coral
is it just me or does asphodel end very quickly
mint coral
so the first pom says it gives +60 but instead is +120
aspho is the shortest region
17-22 then shop into lernie
tartarus is the longest and elysium is in the middle
placid coral
does dodge chance work with acorn?
mint coral
should work yeah
been a while since I've played h1 in general and had dodge chance lol
placid coral
smth I wanna try is zeus, ares, and demeter
get zeus and ares duo
demeter revenge + the max chill damage thing
sounds like a funny idea
mint coral
I'd go aphro/dem instead of dem but yeah revenge runs are a thing
can always just get all 5
aphro/athena 
placid coral
revenge is prob one of my favorite concepts in hades
Just like
"you hit me? fine, have 600 damage"
placid coral
mine was dusa
so the crit chance on recovery for skewer
does that still work properly with Achilles?
mint coral
nope
only works on the actual recovery
(achilles can still do it if it presses attack instead of special but is not worth)
placid coral
UH
Not what I thought that would do
I saw triple jab and thought o that seems good
what on earth
mint coral
I wish it'd allowed for hitting 1 enemy with all 3
mint coral
Amazing
mint coral
Buy them back with the gold from charon
placid coral
welp
I've officially lost this run
lol
I love red shade
:o
epic rush
and the dash boost thing
wait hang on
what's the smoldering heart duo?
I know aph
but who's the second
mint coral
Call caps at 25% but fast charges
placid coral
Call caps at 25% but fast charges
ye
mint coral
Yeah is one of the most useful ones
placid coral
unfortunately
I have demeters call
so not max potential
so the weak boosting boon
broken resolve
it says it increases the effect of weak by 15%
does that mean 45%
or whatever the weird math would be
placid coral
yea that is 100% the only reason I beat hades this run lol
ok
hang on
there's this one thing
right below the "victory" on the top right of the victory screen
it says some things sometimes
this time it said favored and envied
what on earth is that
mint coral
Just titles based on the run
They are on the wiki but also I don't remember that one
Either overall boons or taking trials?
placid coral
one time I got loaded with cash or smth like that
(I had like 2k so it makes sense)
ok so
smth
is it just me
or is zag starting to sound not awful with the harp
/lyre
whatever it is
mint coral
Just play it
placid coral
o
mint coral
Need a total of 210 times
placid coral
I've been doing that after every run lol
mint coral
At points in between you talk with orpheus
placid coral
fun
even tho it's only one ambrosia it's still a fun little thing
also I just forged a bond with dusa
not sure what situation would have been the best there lol
altho dusa being a workaholic does make it difficult for that sorta thing
(atp I might hc her as aro lol)
cause it makes some sense right?
or am I just crazy
mint coral
Have you maxed her out yet
mint coral
Did you get the bond with her
mint coral
also I just forged a bond with dusa
Oh I missed this lmfao
mint coral
Tbh yeah I think aro dusa feels right
mint coral
Is certainly a weapon
placid coral
WOAH
indigo badge
Arthur looks like a lot of fun
it's a hard aspect to use
mint coral
You can dash in between the swings btw
placid coral
ooo
indigo badge
but you get no iframes since technically you're dash attacking
placid coral
(think this is the first aspect I'm genuinely excited to use)
makes sense
I'm at 3 heat with stygius
what do I wanna go for here
(not tight deadline)
mint coral
Do em2 ig
mint coral
It'll be fine with arthur
Also idk if you read it but the aura from arthur turns off traps
And magma is a trap 
placid coral
ooo
useful
I only saw damage reduction
also
"learn how to learn" is so true
ok
indigo badge
Also idk if you read it but the aura from arthur turns off traps
WHAT
fervent radish
lmao
mint coral
Lmfao
indigo badge
that would've been VERY helpful for 50 heat
fervent radish
no way you didn't know that
mint coral
Hades player doesn't read, fork found in kitchen /lh
indigo badge
dude i thought i already knew everything about it 😭
mint coral
It's shown on the tooltip about the aura iirc
placid coral
piercing wave
cursed slash (no)
dash nova
tbh the first 2 don't seem too useful, but I think I need other opinions
indigo badge
It's shown on the tooltip about the aura iirc
even in the winning run, i lost my sd to a dad vase
placid coral
even in the winning run, i lost my sd to a dad vase
a what
mint coral
Those counts as traps
mint coral
Those counts as traps
Enjoy 150 dmg with the trap dmg pact
placid coral
Enjoy 150 dmg with the trap dmg pact
"there is no escape"
extra health chaos boon
sure why not have like 500 health by the end of this lol
got my first boon chamber 7
wow
mint coral
Are you using dark foresight
placid coral
shoot I might not be
I was grinding for nectar :|
oo life affirmation
nice
tanky
question on that
if I get health from anything other than a centaur heart
do I still get that bonus?
placid coral
if I get health from anything other than a centaur heart
like the well, the diamond bonus etc
mint coral
It works with darkness if you have that work order
placid coral
fun
mint coral
It prob doesn't work with centaur soul from the well
It doesn't work with the centaur heart dropped by Than either
placid coral
It doesn't work with the centaur heart dropped by Than either
SPEAKING OF
found that out just before reading that lol
ok
I swear charon just thanked me for the ambrosia
mint coral
He's a homie
placid coral
Just shredded meg
wow
Arthur is fun
i do not like the noise the titan blood makes
also just got arti dash
+60% dash strike damage go brr
placid coral
also third bond :D
placid coral
Only the actual dash strike
aw
still good tho
considering how heavy Arthur is in general
mint coral
Oh yeah funny thing with arthur dash strikes
You can hold attack and just press dash and it still does a dash strike
mint coral
You may need to do a dash strike yourself then keep holding attack
Is something like that
placid coral
also do I get a nectar from every trove or smth
mint coral
Is supposed to be rare-ish
mint coral
Tbf I never did troves
mint coral
My first file I just cheated in most resources 
Then other files I got too speedrunner brained to do them
I trade gens into keys into nectar if I needed it
placid coral
I trade gens into keys into nectar if I needed it
o I do that too
I need a lot of nectar
placid coral
managed to get a total 446 max health
decent
won with 171 health
and all 3 defiences
wow
echo roost
Random question: if you decide to fight Charon and the shop only had one exit, is that exit what you’ll get right after fighting him?
…this is in regards to Hades 1
mint coral
Random question: if you decide to fight Charon and the shop only had one exit, i...
Nope
Also the bot doesn't check messages
Just keeps the msg at the bottom
crisp lodge
hi guys
crisp lodge
What does the item that Zagreus gets after defeating Theseus do?
indigo badge
What does the item that Zagreus gets after defeating Theseus do?
ambrosia is for the last few hearts of every character
crisp lodge
hmm ok
indigo badge
you give them a few nectars, then the last 2 or 3 are with ambrosia
indigo badge
finish a run and you'll unlock the best way to get more boss rewards
crisp lodge
finish a run and you'll unlock the best way to get more boss rewards
so i have to finish the game first?
indigo badge
so i have to finish the game first?
the best way to earn more diamonds is unlocked when you win a run yes
winning a single run is far from finishing the game
crisp lodge
ok thank you
narrow holly
Hey dudes. I got a weird question
Ill use the fact that ive started playing this like 6 hours ago as an excuse but
If u win your 2nd run but have the athena Demeter regen power
It doesnt really count, does it?...
And is there any chance
That you guys tell me what powers are too strong?
Like health regen in a bidding of isaac game is just wrong... Any other "super powers" out there for me to avoid in order to keep the game challenging?
latent moon
It doesnt really count, does it?...
I mean it counts bc the duo isn't really that strong and imo is "noob bait"
hoary aspen
just got like a bozillion voicelines to overlap
latent moon
That you guys tell me what powers are too strong?
Depends on the aspect/weapon really
narrow holly
I mean it counts bc the duo isn't really that strong and imo is "noob bait"
Noobbait? How so?
I use spear
hoary aspen
just got like a bozillion voicelines to overlap
killed asterius, got theseus into his 2nd phase, and took damage at the same time
latent moon
Noobbait? How so?
The health regen is pretty slow and incentives a super slow play style, which means you have more time to make mistakes and get slapped
Especially in the hades fight
narrow holly
The health regen is pretty slow and incentives a super slow play style, which me...
Or, i can dance with hades xD
Fully regen twice...
Not like is that fast... And dodging the skulls aint that big of an issue
I get your point but xD specially for boss fights
You telling me this power aint insanely strong? Its 0.8hp per second
A little damage resists and...
It becomes kinda silly... But ill try again, are there any, maybe noob bait powers out there?
I dont have the book upgraded so i cant really check...
But im asking cuz i regret this win... Feels Cheated
Oh and... I gave 8 nectars so far to bacchus
Silly me right?
latent moon
You telling me this power aint insanely strong? Its 0.8hp per second
Considering a hades swing does 40 damage, you'll have to be dodging for like what 30 seconds without getting hit? To make up that damage
And during that time, you can be dealing more damage
Or if you get smacked again, you'll have to do it all over again
narrow holly
Considering a hades swing does 40 damage, you'll have to be dodging for like wha...
The dual pillar arena... The devs who made this are far far far too kind
Circle circle, eight eight, kill skulls
latent moon
This game can be played more passively, but it's 1) imo not fun and 2) there's much better builds out there with a lot more damage
You'd rather have more damage than hug pillars
narrow holly
This game can be played more passively, but it's 1) imo not fun and 2) there's m...
In my first win i had baccus poison with 0.3 sec tick at high lvl poison and ares blades
I killed hades so fast it felt wrong
So i tried an athena tree and... Here i am...
latent moon
It becomes kinda silly... But ill try again, are there any, maybe noob bait powe...
Cursed slash and flurry slash hammers on the sword are the only ones that jump to mind atm
Demeter's cast I suppose
narrow holly
Sorry, i dont use the sword
Its greece xD
Spears only
No spear upgrade either... Kinda unlucky
But who cares with hp regen
latent moon
I'm sure swords also existed back then but also if you want to upgrade things you should play other weapins as well
narrow holly
I dont think ill stick around that long... Wanna give gifts to everyone
Talk to the training dummy guy cuz he is awsome
Try a few more builds and move on
latent moon
If you want to complete all steam achievements and/or finish all the fated prophecies, you'll need to use the sword at some point
narrow holly
I played gow1 and 2. 1st one had real bosses, 2nd didnt...
Any chance you know if Hades 2 id harder than hades1?
latent moon
I dont think ill stick around that long... Wanna give gifts to everyone
If you want to complete all the relationship hearts with people, I guess you technically don't need to use other weapons but I'd figure it'd get stale at that point
narrow holly
If you want to complete all steam achievements and/or finish all the fated proph...
No sir xD ill leave the Steam achievements for far better players. Such a big gaming list xD aint got time for all that
latent moon
Any chance you know if Hades 2 id harder than hades1?
They play quite differently, I can't really compare the two imo
narrow holly
Let me try this
Gow1 bosses and npcs wanna kill you
Gow2 they wanna use dirty tricks
So... Gow2 way easier and more boring
In hades 2 do they, i dunno
Double down on invulnerability
Poison crap stuff
Slows and falls?
Or do they ramp up the pressure with more enemies and more movesets?
latent moon
More enemies and more movesets I guess?
Hard to be completely sure bc I've put in so many more hours into hades 1 and am so familiar with it that it's hella easy for me
hoary aspen
i just completed 3 fated list things in one run???
narrow holly
Hard to be completely sure bc I've put in so many more hours into hades 1 and am...
If u dont mind me asking. How long until you killed hades the first time?
I was shocked it just 4 bosses...
latent moon
23 attempts
hoary aspen
i just completed 3 fated list things in one run???
broke out with the hidden shield aspect, broke out with all the infernal arms, and told posiedon about my fish
narrow holly
Oh... Ye i think it took me 7 but the powers i got, the ones i said above, bacchus and ares, were insane
Spinning in hades face like a beyblade deserved a print... Sadly i didnt take one
narrow holly
23 attempts
Would you agree that killing hades, timing wise, is irrelevant since it depends on the buffs you get? And therefore alot of rng goes into it?
latent moon
no not really
It just depends how fast you can learn enemy patterns
Bc quite honestly, you can win any run (at low heat) with any build
It just becomes a longer run
The game isn't really that rng heavy as people think
limber sphinx
Agreed, the rng only becomes run ending at very high heat
narrow holly
The game isn't really that rng heavy as people think
I see... Thank you 🙂
narrow holly
Agreed, the rng only becomes run ending at very high heat
I dont think ill do the heat stuff. I guess maybe the extra move on bosses but, outside that, the game is pretty much the same but in "hardcore mode" right?
latent moon
some of the heats don't really change that much
it's nice to help get bounties and more titan blood
upgrade stuff and whatnot
limber sphinx
I dont think ill do the heat stuff. I guess maybe the extra move on bosses but, ...
trust me, they're worth doing, and each individual one isn't so bad on its own. Not everything is the same though, I won't spoil anything, once you win a run take a look at the list
plus, you get rewarded for even going onlly one point higher at first so its not bad at all
narrow holly
trust me, they're worth doing, and each individual one isn't so bad on its own. ...
Question for me is, is it worth it?
In todays era we have access to soo many games
If u tell me that the game changes, new scenarios, new bosses, new NPCs then im all in
But ... Repeating the same gameplay for completion or steam achievements... Ye... Not for me xD
rustic vale
But ... Repeating the same gameplay for completion or steam achievements... Ye.....
The sheer number of options you have for builds in Hades gives you a bunch of runs but like
technically the game changes as much as you want it to with heat tbh
crank up the enemy attack speed and give all the enemies perks and you’re now playing a different game tbh
The pact of punishment does allow you to get really modular with your experience
I do get the vibe that Hades might not be the game for you though
narrow holly
I do get the vibe that Hades might not be the game for you though
Its a bit too small xD ive finished bidding of isaac a long time ago so, hades just a warm up at this point
But this good riddance song... Was made for us xD the old gamers
What ill take with me. To all the silly bosses that were unbeatable, until they werent... Good riddance xD
narrow holly
23 attempts
Finding how i can see my attempts was the hardest thing so far...
God damn... Google and chatgpt kept saying mirror or house decorator...
Why i come to discord and ask questions xD only yall can help gamers
rustic vale
Finding how i can see my attempts was the hardest thing so far...
You’ll need to go into the administrative room to check old victories and stats
Which is in the west wing of the house of Hades
I believe you need to purchase a work order to do it which only happens after certain story beats
rustic vale
God damn... Google and chatgpt kept saying mirror or house decorator...
Googling for information about Hades is bound to give you misinformation lmao
Also given the sheer amount of misinformation on Reddit chat is probably also not helpful
I mean this question is rlly straightforward thou so you should be fine
Complete 27 escape attempts
Play through Administrative Chamber Flashback
For unlocking the work order
manic rivet
I’ve beaten 32 heat with 4 aspects now: hestia, Rama, Chiron, now Beowulf (scuffed af). Spear, sword, and fists aren’t rly my thing tbh
Spear is okay if I get flurry jab or good cast stuff but I suck with the melee aspects in general
maiden wave
What is the games current version?
narrow holly
Complete 27 escape attempts
Play through Administrative Chamber Flashback
I can see when i pick my save game xD 18 runs, 3 victories hahahaha
Im starting to wonder if ill play with some heat until i finish all the interactions
I tried this machinegun thing...
What the hell man... Is this why you kept asking what weapon i used?
rustic vale
I can see when i pick my save game xD 18 runs, 3 victories hahahaha
Oh I thought you meant you wanted to look at your previous individual runs
narrow holly
This thing is insane...
Dude xD first time with machinegun, personal record hahahaha
rustic vale
What the hell man... Is this why you kept asking what weapon i used?
Which weapon you’re using does heavily change which gods you want to take lmao
also if you just got the rail you just unlocked a massive feature for the game
narrow holly
The Titan blood part i hope...
rustic vale
Yep
narrow holly
I want a stronger spear
rustic vale
Weapon aspects
narrow holly
Couldnt care less about any other weapons...
rustic vale
Every weapon has it’s place but you do you I suppose
pro-tip achilles balls out for the 3 non-hidden aspects
narrow holly
If i could go bare fist
Id try xD
Hades too old man... Retiring the old fart with fists would be fun
Punching gauntlet seems fun but ... If i found the blade to have very limited range, cant imagine the fisty cuffs...
rustic vale
Punching gauntlet seems fun but ... If i found the blade to have very limited ra...
It sounds like you haven’t given them a fair shot then
Personally I find the fists to feel better than the sword
narrow holly
It sounds like you haven’t given them a fair shot then
I got 18 runs in, a few with sword until i unlocked spear and only 1 with this machinegun
So you are fully right xD i have no clue how strong they are
Prolly a full defensive set with athena and some hp regen?
rustic vale
all the weapons are equally viable up to like 50+ heat
maiden wave
What is the games current version?
narrow holly
Oh sorry, im legit asking if its fun
I got very little interest in playing the same game but with harder stuff like more hp or shields...
Im here to try it out, do the storyline and im gone
rustic vale
I got very little interest in playing the same game but with harder stuff like m...
Some of them are interesting options
Also the more hp and the enemy shields ones are just like
narrow holly
Some of them are interesting options
Ill try the extra moves one
rustic vale
Ones you don’t take till 45+ heat anyways
narrow holly
Any good ideas of fun ones?
More hp on mobs and doing the same run isnt as fun as... Just trying a brand new game
rustic vale
Oh sorry, im legit asking if its fun
Fun is subjective tbh
narrow holly
If it aint like, actually different wont do it :/
maiden wave
lemme double check
So?
narrow holly
Fun is subjective tbh
I know, why im asking xD
rustic vale
More hp on mobs and doing the same run isnt as fun as... Just trying a brand new...
I just said the enemy survivability buffs are the ones you wouldn’t want to run till like 50+ heat anyways
narrow holly
Let me try it this way
If i do 100% completion, can i do a run mounted on cerberus?
narrow holly
And he attacks?
rustic vale
If i do 100% completion, can i do a run mounted on cerberus?
I mean
You can get cerberus involved with the right heat pact
I’ll leave it at that
narrow holly
So yeah... I wont do heat xD
rustic vale
The weapons and weapon aspects are the main thing that change
narrow holly
Ill leave it to you guys xD
rustic vale
So yeah... I wont do heat xD
Honestly the big draw of heat it getting the blood to level up your aspects tbh
at least it gets you in the door
rustic vale
Then I think about 50% of gamers decide to leave it off at 20 heat when the bounties stop
narrow holly
Just, extra this, extra that
rustic vale
There are in game rewards for heat
They’re like
You’ll see them at the bottom of the courtyard
narrow holly
At that point i rather quit and try hades 2 later on xD extra damage buffs, faster speed... Noy exactly interesting
If u beat street fighter with each character
You get an extra cut scene remember?
That is worth iy
Extra... Stats on weapons after you beat the game already? Ye doesnt excite me tbh
rustic vale
I mean you’re still far off from knocking out the 21020 dialogue lines in Hades atp
rustic vale
Extra... Stats on weapons after you beat the game already? Ye doesnt excite me t...
“After you beat the game already” you haven’t even reached the credits
narrow holly
Yeah i... Dont think ill do that either xD
narrow holly
“After you beat the game already” you haven’t even reached the credits
What do you consider beating the game?
rustic vale
I’d say at least finishing off the epilogue
That gives you all the story to the game
Or
narrow holly
That is how many wins?
rustic vale
all the “main” story
It’s 10 wins for credits and epilogue is entirely independent of your wins
It has to do with your relationships with the olympian gods
narrow holly
Epilogue, let me guess, requires me to give 99.999 ambrosias or nectars to each god
Cuz i gave like 8 to bacchus
And i feel like that was a waste...
rustic vale
It’s only like 6/9 olympians
your choice of them
and then completing those ones favours
narrow holly
What is the reward for completing? Dialogue?
rustic vale
Anyways I think if you leave after just completing the epilogue you miss out on a lot of the gameplay but it sounds like you actually just don’t care about that too much
rustic vale
What is the reward for completing? Dialogue?
More dialogue, art, family
narrow holly
Anyways I think if you leave after just completing the epilogue you miss out on ...
I wouldn't say i dont care about that too much more like... Back in the day we had real life games... Now we got google ... If u can... Get almost every single game right now... Would you... Do full completion of hades?
rustic vale
Extra... Stats on weapons after you beat the game already? Ye doesnt excite me t...
A bunch of the aspects completely shake up how the weapon even plays
narrow holly
Ill give u an example
rustic vale
It’s a bit dismissive to just call it more stats
narrow holly
Right now i could keep on doing the same dungeons over and over
Or play like bioshock or last of us 2
rustic vale
I wouldn't say i dont care about that too much more like... Back in the day we h...
I would
narrow holly
Would you... Play hades all over again?
rustic vale
I enjoyed 450 hours of Hades on my switch and I bought it on steam when I went off to university and started a new savefile after that
If I had all the games in the world at my disposal I would still have Hades on my lists of games I would actually play because I enjoy the gameplay
The story was really nice the first time around as well as a big greek mythology guy
narrow holly
A bunch of the aspects completely shake up how the weapon even plays
But its the same mobs... Same bosses... Same everything... im from the days of original hades games xD biding of isaac and... Not even i did full completion on that game ...
You played 450 hours of... 4 dungeons and 4 bosses? Damn xD you really into this
rustic vale
I’ve played both games
narrow holly
Its the mythology part that gets you?
rustic vale
You played 450 hours of... 4 dungeons and 4 bosses? Damn xD you really into this
Turning up the heat kept the game interesting
Keeping the game challenging
and no I don’t just mean “extra hp”
I’ve only had that on like twice
narrow holly
Yeah but... You could do actually extra challenging
Like... 20xx game?
Similar metal slug like game
rustic vale
Yeah but... You could do actually extra challenging
What do you mean
narrow holly
But actually hard af
Im not saying you should change at all
But after 450 hours and u still want a challenge... You didnt change to a more challenging game?
Just curious
Dont cancel me or toss hate...
Like discord allways does...
rustic vale
…the built-in difficulty options allow me to turn up the difficulty even higher
do you know that only a handful of people have ever completed max heat
3 have done it unmodded
rustic vale
I think there are more than 3 people who have beaten soulslike games
narrow holly
So i dunno, i think alot of mario gamers would do full heat
rustic vale
Yeah but... Not like hades player base is like souls games
I don’t think you understand what 50+ heat does to the game
What 64 heat does to Hades
narrow holly
I guess ill say that if i Beat the game with a new weapon the first time
Maybe ... Just maybe
I do understand xD and it aint all that
narrow holly
Right xD belive it or not, that is what got me into hades anyway...
Folk said it was too hard
Now its heat 50 too hard
If i do that, what is next? XD
rustic vale
50 heat is reasonable for a dedicated player
64 heat is where the actual sweats get up to
rustic vale
Folk said it was too hard
Idk who told you this btw
narrow holly
Your arguments, altho very valid, are ultra common
Everytime im told, its so hard
You have no clue xD
But hades actually gave me a tool to deal with this
And that is what ill trully take from this game
rustic vale
🗿 I have no clue what you’re talking about
narrow holly
Good riddance to all the thieves
To all the fools that stifled me
They've come and gone and passed me by
Good riddance to all
these powerfull words
every boss does this xD they all say we can do it
but in the end...
we allways beat it... and its never enough xD there is allways that next step
hades has amazing story line, funny uk main character and great sound track
i dont think ill end up agreeing that this game has the sweats part
or at least i doubt it for older gamers
rustic vale
i dont think ill end up agreeing that this game has the sweats part
If you want to go play a different game you can just go do that instead of telling me that 64 heat isn’t hard with 0 credibility
narrow holly
i accept that ofc but i ask you the same xD
why is... 64 heat hard?
is it like
yan garuga hard?
fatalis hard? xD maybe rajang hard?
narrow holly
didnt you say you played bidding of isaac?
narrow holly
that is... rogue like right?
rustic vale
hold on
narrow holly
but in bidding of isaac the gameplay changes alot