#h1-discussion

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stone python
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and just

latent moon
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hestia is a sniper basically

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so there's that

stone python
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cant say that line magic man

fierce junco
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i just got lucky, it proc'd a lot

old bluff
stone python
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my humors broken

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also the uh

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gun that if you use the explosion on yourself is pretty tight

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am gonna go game

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isnt jazz inside of star wars called jizz?

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am gonna try making a machine gun inside this goofy game rq

stiff obsidian
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we have eris in the game

stone python
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am gonna mix 10 hour energy dr pepper and energy drink togheter in a big gulp

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watch me

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oh god oh fu-

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wait why cant we cuss here

jagged hamlet
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Sure you can! Blood and Darkness! zaggrin

stone python
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discord is already 13+

solid prism
stone python
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theres prob a universe where this jazz is called jizz here

twilit lodge
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Eris is extremely strong

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Make sure you get hazard bomb

old bluff
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Eris stinky ngl

fierce junco
old bluff
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(for sub 5 only lmao)

stone python
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who is eris

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WHAT DID I SMOKE

old bluff
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It's a Rail aspect

stone python
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oh first boss

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oh nvm

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sorry

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am not

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very experiances

stiff obsidian
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experiances fr

stone python
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experiance

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experiances

twilit lodge
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Gaming

solid prism
stone python
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sorry if i took a while

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am kinda talkin with friends

fervent radish
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what is bro on

twilit lodge
stone python
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i smoke that

fervent radish
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nice

old bluff
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Does that give you 100 hour energy?

stone python
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yea

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i really wanna sleep

north sandal
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anyone have any recommendations on where to start with heat

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i pretty much have a good success rate without it

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but i wanna push myself more bc i dont want the game to become stale

latent moon
fervent radish
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EM, BP, and MM are pretty fun places to start

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HL and LC make the game less forgiving

twin thistle
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Put on fo2 then never put it off

stone python
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i got a shotgun

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in the funny jesus game

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so uh

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i beat charon some how

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aka got the funny card

north sandal
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aspect of hades vs aspect of achilles?

stone python
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archiles is good

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since

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its bassicaly just

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become a bull

fierce junco
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achilles boosts cast, charged and attack

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hades is just attack and special

brisk trail
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Charon fight is honestly not as bad once you know his pattern

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I beat him damageless once

winter marlin
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its just punishing if you do mess up

lavish sorrel
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Yeah I've done a tiny bit of AnyWeaponStart gilgamesh, GY and lucifer

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On top of just regular unmodded ff with every weapon (4/6 wrs belong to me because no-one else wants to play them šŸ—æ)

twin thistle
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bouldy fo2 hl5 charon

twin thistle
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I love that clip bouldy

solid prism
azure spruce
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do i take explosive shot with rama?

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or better chain shot

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i think explosive is better choice here šŸ¤”

mint coral
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what's the third

twilit lodge
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I forgor what triggers the admin room opening

azure spruce
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i was maining attack

mint coral
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yeah I prob would have taken explosive there

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is kinda awkward but it gets the job done

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was this first or 2nd hammer

azure spruce
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but at the same time big D

mint coral
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oh yeah you don't bother charging if you take explosive lol

azure spruce
mint coral
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just do min charges point blank

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oh then yeah, def explosive

azure spruce
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at the end of the run i got explosive and twin shot

azure spruce
mint coral
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Sniper is bad

azure spruce
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does shared suffering count as curse?

mint coral
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No

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Don't use priv status in general too dusa

azure spruce
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i mean to trigger p status

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oh

mint coral
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Family favorites is usually better

azure spruce
merry pawn
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I want to ask, is there an epilogue story, or is it just endless progression with no pay off?

mint coral
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Is not anything big tho

merry pawn
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hm, kk I'll play around with that instead of moving on to H2

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thanks bro!

mint coral
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Just to be sure you got the credits already right

merry pawn
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yup!

mint coral
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Aight šŸ‘

fervent radish
stone python
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why does no escape kinda slap

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(the full version)

rustic vale
# azure spruce does shared suffering count as curse?

Status curses are only the curses inflicted by boons.
Several Olympian Gods have them built-in to every boon they give you (weaken, chill). Others you need extra boons for (ruptured from razor shoals, jolted from static discharge).

This is a list of Status Curses:
Hangover, Doom, Jolted, Rupture, Weaken, Chill, Hunter’s Mark, Exposed.

Everything on this list is not a status curse, and will not help you get Priviledged status up;

Hades spin marking, Gilgamesh maiming, Rama Shared suffering and Talos magnetised pull buff, boiling/abyssal blood, killing freeze, charm, trippy stuns, dusa petrification, Thanatos marking

stone python
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you need 2 boon effects to have the boost

rustic vale
stone python
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BACK TO CRYING AND HADESING

azure spruce
native blade
stiff obsidian
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you mean the worst

azure spruce
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what do i take on rama artemis dash or attack? i just dont know how is it in the long run, which one has bigger multiplier?

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if you pom it

stiff obsidian
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arty attack doesnt take poms well u should never pom it max 1 if u have to

azure spruce
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so dash?

rustic vale
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you don’t want to pom either past level 1 or 2 really

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Hunter dash is better value per pom

surreal scarab
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Just went back to playing the first game last night

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So fun

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Gotta get used to dashing again

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Beowulf is such a fun aspect

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Hmm

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Probably some kind of plot thing that has to be fulfilled

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And isn’t yet

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I had that happen to me a few times

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I wouldn’t be able to tell you specifically

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But I’d look into the requirements for him being able to maxed out

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Also I think you may need ambrosia not nectar

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I’ll look it up rn

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It’s been a min since I’ve played but I have like 500 hours in game haha

old bluff
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Yes

surreal scarab
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Ahh

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So it looks like you might also need to kill 10,000 enemies

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Basically the ā€œblood for the blood godā€

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And then apparently you don’t even have a chance to get it right away

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It takes a few encounters

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From what I see

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Just wait!

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Lol

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Or don’t but you didn’t have to do that

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Nah that’s a common road block

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And even when I started moving up in heat every so often a heat level would make them impassable for me again

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And I’d always die at them for a bit

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Till I got good enough to beat them

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You will do it

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I promise

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You got this

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Try to kill the Minotaur first

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Single them out almost

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And learn what moves they make right before they do certain attacks

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Well I’m certainly not as much an expert as I’m sure many on here are but I’d say the weapon that works best for you

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Which I know isn’t a real answer but it’s true

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I like the fists, shield and sword though

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The fists were like all I used at first till I gained confidence to try others

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Any weapon can be super strong though

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I like talos but according to Haelian it’s not very good I think I was an outlier

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Cuz I loved it beat 32 heat with it

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And the magnetic pull on the special is nice to bring enemies in and just melt them

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Idk I like him

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He’s pretty sick I’d say

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Anyways tho the sword is iffy for me but I love aspect of Arthur

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And nemesis sometimes

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Hahaha well I’m not one of them

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It might be that you just gotta interact with him a few more times

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Just keep playing and then also you might need an ambrosia

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I think you do

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For the final heart

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So you either gotta buy it in the shop or kill the champions

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Really any aspect can be good

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At least good enough for low/no heat

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So get some practice with one that appeals to you and maybe look into some builds for it

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No shame in looking stuff up to help you

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Then you can put your own twist on it even

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Usually you’ll have to cuz the game won’t just give you every part of the build or at least every thing that interacts well with it

mint coral
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for what is worth this is mostly for like, 50+ heat stuff

surreal scarab
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So you always end up mixing it up a little

surreal scarab
mint coral
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as scrum said, most stuff will go just fine at low heat

surreal scarab
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In the sense of all thing ā€œnormal gameplayā€ he’s great

mint coral
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that said I wouldn't rec chiron anyways

surreal scarab
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Yeah I don’t use that one much

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Lol

surreal scarab
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Lol

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But imagine it’s on fire for when I’m in Tartarus

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Yeah just people nitpicking between ā€œgoodā€ and ā€œtop percentile of the worldā€

stiff obsidian
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he is good

surreal scarab
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He’s obviously good

surreal scarab
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I plan on playing more later it’s fun going back

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I’m not max rank yet either

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Gotta farm some more darkness

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Yo this bot is going nuts. I’m not talking about the second game

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Ah my friend just got here later guys good luck Voe

jagged hamlet
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I love how everybody always thinks StickyBot is addressing them personally

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StickyBot keeps us safe. StickyBt keeps us free

twilit lodge
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Chiron is fun to me

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It falls off though admittedly

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But the play style is fun

azure spruce
twilit lodge
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Switch gang

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Try aphro attack arty special

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The attack is still good

twilit lodge
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For packs

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And then you have the special to melt big targets

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Chaos special and duo boon makes it go brrr

stiff obsidian
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imagine needing so much just to deal passable damag

twilit lodge
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Imagine needing boons in hit video game Hades by Supergiant Games

stiff obsidian
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whats thi

mint coral
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random run

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wanted to have better clips to show what I mean for dodging heroes

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or call iframes

stiff obsidian
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true mentor

surreal scarab
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I just had a great run on just like 5 heat

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Could easily turn it up to about where I was at when I was playing the first game all the time

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But I wanted to ease into it a little

iron epoch
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Someone asked me to describe Hades because they were curious about it. I said this "Rebellious and unusually British son of Hades tries to escape to the surface against his father's wishes. He fights various foes, meets hot gods, experiences bisexuality (and polyamory if you so wish) and he dies a lot. You can also pet the dog"

iron epoch
stone python
iron epoch
stone python
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daddadda

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wait meg is a man!

tepid light
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Say what

twilit lodge
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Meg is a Fury actually nerdcatpoint

jagged hamlet
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She's the water type starter. Alecto is the fire type, and Tisiphone is grass

stone python
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why did i ping

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mb

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am dumb

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skelly just like me fr

wanton sierra
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Is it better to do Deadly Strike or Hunter Dash for sword runs? (Nemesis sword)

timid copper
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Why is in the blood removed from spotify? shadeohboy

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It turns out most hades songs are gone from spotify :(

jagged hamlet
hazy path
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If you unlock an aspect of a weapon, are the fate prophecy requirements not affected by it when you find the hammers?

stone python
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live life be mentally insane

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also

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the spear special aspect

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a bit good

twilit lodge
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Iirc

twilit lodge
stone python
rustic vale
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Oh

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Yes

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They never require hidden aspect’s specific hammers

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they’ll require every other hammer though

twilit lodge
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Guan Li

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New secret aspect just dropped

stone python
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Its bassiacly ares cast mixed with the hammer aspect with the sword

rustic vale
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uhhh

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Guan-Yu is really just Bow 2

stone python
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and also worse

rustic vale
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ngl

stiff obsidian
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???

fervent radish
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mehh

twilit lodge
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Guan Oh when

stone python
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mb stickybot

twilit lodge
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Combo with Battie

fervent radish
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use the spin

rustic vale
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the special goes hard

stone python
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special does go hard

twilit lodge
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I literally cannot guan yu

rustic vale
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the spin less so

stone python
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anyways

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am gonan go

rustic vale
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Bed bed time

twilit lodge
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Bye

rustic vale
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Is late

twilit lodge
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Make sure you use shackle dash with guan yu

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Best synergy

fervent radish
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what

twilit lodge
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(He doesn’t even know about shackle dash, sheesh)

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This guy

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@rustic vale you can’t go to bed yet you have to explain shackle dash

stiff obsidian
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yeah

fervent radish
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ok

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wheres the shackle call meta

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if shackle is so strong

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checkmate

twilit lodge
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Erm

stiff obsidian
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all the pro players use it tho?

twilit lodge
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But you can’t have a call without a call

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With shackle

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You can have a dash without a dash with shackle, however

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That’s why it’s so strong

fervent radish
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me dash eating dad's skulls at twice the efficacy

twilit lodge
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Now you get it

shut umbra
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someone know how to make hypnos favor?

fervent radish
shut umbra
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thx

fervent radish
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Generally completing favors is just do run, talk to everyone you can, repeat ad infinitum

shut umbra
fervent radish
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No clue. I didn't focus on favors when I played the early/mid game

jagged hamlet
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The youth don't remember how brave StickyBot singlehandedly fought off a thousand Hades 2 commenters (accidentally) trying to invade these fair Hades 1 channels zagsad

jagged hamlet
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It was pretty bad. Like every third or fourth comment was a Hades 2 comment. Often with a big spoiler

stiff obsidian
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yeah thats why. i left

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but i wasnt there when stickybot was introduced

narrow loom
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whats the best keepsake

stiff obsidian
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zeus keepsake

narrow loom
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No

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tbf though a lot of my builds are zeus based

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but my favorite rn I think is pom blossom

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my most used is lucky tooth because when I was a noob I used to spam it

old bluff
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Acorn is prob the most used non god keepsake

narrow loom
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i've actually never used it fr

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I used it to level it up to level 3

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I mean i'm sure it's good I'm probably missing out

stiff obsidian
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pom blossom is bait

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although it does teach new players to keep their pommable pool clean

narrow loom
latent moon
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it's not good yeah lmao

lethal dock
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is hades like how much historically accurate if it was 1 to 10 scale because i dunno greek history

latent moon
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random poms aren't that useful when you have like more than 3 boons

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which is very often

lethal dock
latent moon
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like a 7 or 8 maybe?

lethal dock
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oh

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yeah mythology is the word

latent moon
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zagreus isn't like mentioned a lot in the mythology iirc just a handful of mentions and the game follows what exists pretty well along with taking creative liberties

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although like escaping the underworld, getting a job to do it repeatedly, etc prob isn't in the mythos lmao

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but like the base background story is fairly accurate

lethal dock
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i dont know how true it is but i believe hades (god) is like very chill in history quite different than movies

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but i didnt fact check so

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if anyone with information

latent moon
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yeah you're right iirc

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he's mostly just bitter lmao

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movies like to make him hella angry and evil bc plot stuff lmao

lethal dock
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i think its more because of underworld and realm of the dead thing

lavish sorrel
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also it's always easier to play with people's fears such as "scary death man evil šŸ˜”"

lethal dock
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yeah

stiff obsidian
twilit lodge
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I think it’s funny that some stories say the furies are born from hades and Persephone

lethal dock
twilit lodge
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Or is it the fates I’m thinking of

lethal dock
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dont stir up the chat

twilit lodge
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In Orphic literature, they are the daughters of Hades and Persephone.[16]

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I suppose that would have made meg x zag a bit weird

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Although not too weird as far as Greek mythology goes

lethal dock
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is that true

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what event made this bot say this warning every 3 messages?

twilit lodge
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The operators of this discord enabling it and setting it to say that every x amount of minutes

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That was the event

lethal dock
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no not that kind of event

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what kind of huge hades 2 spoilers for everyone event

twilit lodge
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Well when h2 was first announced this entire discord was a hellhole

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For like weeks

lethal dock
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wah

twilit lodge
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I assume once it went into early access they added the sticky bot

lethal dock
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it has some nice profile design to it

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i like drawing stuff so i got to appreciate some fine artwork

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its what got me into hades anyways

mint coral
jagged hamlet
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Definitely saw some big spoilers zagsnooze

twilit lodge
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I’ve been lucky enough to miss any but I also stopped coming here for like a year

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And unless h2 is going to come to switch it doesn’t matter so much to me

lethal dock
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are days faster than normal for gods

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in hades anyways

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it always seems to be atleast a day for 1 escape

twilit lodge
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How are you measuring days in hades?

lethal dock
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well imma spoiler it anyway incase anyone hasnt gotten out ||after every fight with hades theres a sunrise to thats atleast 24 hours for a sunrise||

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maybe being teleported back with styx actually takes a long time

jagged hamlet
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Imagine Zag just lazily floating down the Styx face down

lethal dock
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also sea awfully feels wineish color during sunrise is that maybe a little detail to Homer’s famous ā€œwine dark seaā€

twilit lodge
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Well, he is ||the narrator|| after all

lethal dock
twilit lodge
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Heavily implied after a certain house contractor purchase

lethal dock
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ohh yea

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the statue thingy

twilit lodge
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Ya

narrow loom
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eternal chamber zeus lucifer is just so

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ughh

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so good

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zeusifer

stone python
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why does hermes bond thing just

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idk

narrow loom
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I regret not doing 32 heat on this run

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lowkey I could give up and redo it on 32

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but actually nah

twin thistle
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Wait till you try triple bomb lol

narrow loom
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I have

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I want it for this run

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but also it's working fine w/o it

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well I got it

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but also tripl;e beam

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which might work better

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for the setup I have

twilit lodge
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I want to enjoy Lucifer but on controller it’s just not fun

twin thistle
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Its not that bad, just need to play close around enemies

wanton sierra
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I'm trying to be more consistent about hearing the final boss in my runs. After watching some over explained runs by Haleon, I have walked away with these learnings - do they seem right? Anything else to know?
Yeah, they were quite helpful for learning how to shape a run to aim to beat the final boss.
The tips seemed to boil down to:

  • Think critically about your build and goals
    • Aim for two to three critical boons that synergize, or build towards a strong duo or legendary boon
    • Don't over-prioritize hammers if they don't seem like they would help your build
    • Poms level out pretty hard at ~level 3 and onward
  • Prioritize "free" no combat rooms because why take damage and time
    • Favor shops when you have enough gold for a god boon
  • Pick build > health > meta-currency rooms
    • For meta currency, pick whatever you're currently saving for
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For context, I'm a returning player from years ago and I previously got up to 32 heat. I'm returning to a fresh hell mode file (I didn't do hell mode before)

stiff obsidian
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thats correct for the most part

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regarding poms thats boon dependent, for example hangover boons scale linearly after the first pom

old bluff
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The only one I don't really agree with is the don't overprioritize hammer, obv don't take it over free rooms, but most weapons really rely on their first hammer for a large portion of there damage

stiff obsidian
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first hammer always take and take 2nd if u didnt get the one u wanted in the first

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with exceptions

lethal dock
stiff obsidian
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you dont need to be good at the attacks until like 40 heat

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if you build good you can facetank the game

fervent radish
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Resetting for a hammer doesn’t sound reasonable to a new player

stiff obsidian
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where did edward ever imply resetting

fervent radish
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I misread ngl

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Ignore me

shut umbra
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i need gfive 5 nectar to orpheus to make him sing?

wanton sierra
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I can pretty reliably at least get to the Elysium bosses, but I often get to Redacted with only one or two DD and low health, at least at the moment.

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When is taking a trial chamber (two gods) a good idea?

stiff obsidian
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when it has a boon you really need

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remember u cant get duos from them btw

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but u can get legos

twilit lodge
stiff obsidian
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when did i say anything about that now

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im finished

twilit lodge
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Hi finished I’m dad

latent moon
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first hammer is pretty massive on a lot of weapons

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especially spear and shield

twilit lodge
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Unless you get 3 options that do nothing for you

latent moon
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yeah that was edward's point wasn't it

twilit lodge
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Sure, going for the hammer is a priority

latent moon
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you're mainly looking for like a small handful of hammers but if you get it the first hammer, you can ignore the 2nd hammer basically

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but you'd prioritize the 2nd hammer if your first hammer sucked

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bc you really need the damage boost from ely onwards, esp if their concern is dad fight

twilit lodge
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Imagine if there was a weapon where all the hammers were detrimental

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Instead of just 7/9 of them like sword has

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New weapon idea: Daedalus’s hammer

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Its hammer pool is just every hammer in the game

latent moon
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all detrimental hammers would be funny lmao

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unfortunately a lot of them tend to be just neutral

jagged hamlet
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Flurry Dash Nova

latent moon
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that's so real

old bluff
twin thistle
lavish sorrel
wanton sierra
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Question about how bounties work... If my max heat beaten so far is 5 with shield, and then I just bump up to 8 heat but fail to beat Redacted, will I get titan blood for the first 3 times I defeat one of the fate sisters? (Basically for rounding down to 6, 7, then actually being 8 heat)

twin thistle
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So youll just get 1 titan blood the first time you beat furies at 8 till you beat dad again at 6+

wanton sierra
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And then if I re-run it right afterwards with the same 8 heat after beating dad, I would get the blood for 7 heat?

twin thistle
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Yeah

wanton sierra
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Gotcha, thanks!

hazy path
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Dumb question but what makes the aspect weapons any different from the Zagreus ones? Is it the abilities or just stats like dmg?

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Only saying for some though. Idk much about the beginner blade. Behind with an S I forgot how to spell it

old bluff
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It is their abilities for all of the non-hidden aspects, but all the hidden aspects have different move sets than the other aspects on that weapon

jagged hamlet
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Abilities and sometimes movesets differ

twilit lodge
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You get the next set of bounties if your hear gauge is full

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Doesn’t matter if it’s over full

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You could escape 5 times, doing 1 heat, 2 heat, 3 heat, 4 heat, 5 heat and it would be the same rewards as if you had done 5 heat 5 times in a row

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Oh I’m behind as usual

unkempt lotus
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Idk why but it's so charming seeing Hades work hearing the shades' cases

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I cheer whenever he grants one whatever it's asking lol

wanton sierra
twilit lodge
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But my hell mode save is past that point, to test, I think

wanton sierra
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Oh, they stop at 20?

twilit lodge
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Might be misremembering

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But they stop at some point

wanton sierra
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I think I skipped from 16 to 32 on my normal file.

twilit lodge
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I just came back from a year+ break

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The limit for bounties is 20 Heat, with 21 completed runs that need to be completed to collect all bounties. In Hell Mode, bounties start at 5 heat, and the limit is increased to 25 Heat.

wanton sierra
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And to refresh before H2

twilit lodge
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On my hell mode save I used the freebie run to get 32 heat done

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🤭

wanton sierra
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Freebie run?

twilit lodge
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The run where dad doesn’t fight you

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I think it’s your tenth successful escape

wanton sierra
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Ah. I forgot that's a thing, lmao

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That's sneaky

unkempt lotus
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That's genius lmao

wanton sierra
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Free EM4, huh?

old bluff
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I don’t think you can do em4 before beating dad ten times

latent moon
#

Yeah you don't get em4 before 10th win

twilit lodge
#

And you don’t get EM at all until you’ve met all the furies

#

Not something most people run into unless they make a new save or are natural born hades pros ig

latent moon
#

Also lernie types

old bluff
#

I'm not gonna lie, I thought there were 4 Lernie types for the longest time lmao

#

(there's five)

twilit lodge
#

Makes sense but didn’t know that

#

Imagine if it was locked behind the name changing from Hydra to lernie

wanton sierra
#

Then free EM3?

rustic vale
twilit lodge
#

You can skip heat though

rustic vale
twilit lodge
#

Yes

wanton sierra
rustic vale
#

well yeah all you need for the statues is the heat clear… and the dialouges for it

#

I have a save file where I went 0-32 heat and I don’t have the skelly statues

twilit lodge
#

Hacker

rustic vale
#

since he hasn’t had the dialogue to even learn them yet

twilit lodge
#

Yeah I’m waiting for him to bring up the statue pedestals

#

On my latest save

wanton sierra
#

Oh, that's sad. But I suppose you're good enough to get it anyway if you did it on a fresh file.

twilit lodge
#

Do you have to beat 32 after he’s ready?

#

Or will your 32 count once he’s ready

twilit lodge
#

The most hacks I ever saw

rustic vale
old bluff
#

Only common rd smh

rustic vale
#

I didn’t have god’s pride

twilit lodge
#

Zag rail sheesh

rustic vale
#

I was using ri2 to make up for the lack of darkness

#

and make my runs easier

twilit lodge
#

What triggers green side of mirror?

rustic vale
#

Aside from rng dialogue idk

twilit lodge
#

I couldn’t really tell what did it, on my current save

#

All I know is nyx dialogue did it

rustic vale
#

I got it run 8 so I figure it has to do with your ingame progress maybe

latent moon
#

yeah it's nyx dialogue

#

it's super early like within first 5 runs lmao

latent moon
#

on my 10th win on a new save i did 50 heat for the memes and also for the skelly statue

twilit lodge
#

But I also intentionally died before the first Athena buff on run 1

#

Just to see how that affected nyx talking about Athena when you get back after first run

#

(She just didn’t appear lol lmao)

#

(the green talents are not available from the start — they will be unlocked following a conversation with Nyx after collecting a minimum of 300 Darkness )

#

Wiki pulling through

stone python
#

gamers

#

is stuborn roots good

#

over blinding flash

twilit lodge
#

Sure

lethal dock
#

im bored what do i do in hades

toxic tulip
#

WTH

#

F-ZONED IS A BANNED WORD APPARENTLY

lethal dock
#

what is f zoned

#

did the world get banned

toxic tulip
#

ah screw u sticky bot lemme talk in peace

lethal dock
#

sticky bot saw some horrors

#

its why its spammin every 10 seconds

boreal violet
#

Does anyone need a mod here
If you need just dm me

signal cosmos
#

Hi, is it rare to get unique dialogue with an asterion about the Aspect of Gilgamesh? Because I already had first dialogue, and after it I did like 4 runs when I met him, and nothing happened

mint coral
#

And first dialogue being the "you are fighting me barehanded"

mint coral
#

I wouldn't say the awakening phrase is rare per say but as you have seen it can take a bit

signal cosmos
#

After it I met him like 4 times and nothing happened

mint coral
#

Assuming you haven't done any story about him at the same time the phrase should hopefully be prioritized soon

#

Just gotta keep trying

signal cosmos
#

Can I just do runs no matter which weapon I pick, and it should pop?

mint coral
#

Yeah the phrase itself doesn't depend on weapon

signal cosmos
#

Okay, thanks

#

Last thing until the platinum trophy 🄲

signal cosmos
mint coral
#

Rng sadly

#

Someone here took like 3 months bouldy

#

It is quite a extreme case that happened but still

signal cosmos
#

Seriously? I just want get trophy and uninstall this game, because I already did literally everything

#

I have everything maxed

mint coral
#

Just in case I'd probably go with the fists and see if that changes anything

#

Or learn speedrun builds so you can get to elysium faster

signal cosmos
#

Yup, also I'm trying this, not work

signal cosmos
#

Maybe I would become a speedrunner because of it

mint coral
#

Speedrunning this game is fun

signal cosmos
#

What's your record?

fervent radish
#

(shoutout to high heat running as well)

mint coral
#

Modded is 6:23 iirc?

fervent radish
signal cosmos
#

Oh, that's nice, I didn't try to speedrun it, but my best time it's barely under 10 mins

mint coral
#

You mentioned platinum so I assume you are on console right

hazy path
#

wait you can give nectar to dad? šŸ˜‚ why though

signal cosmos
#

No offence guys, I really love this game, but after 70 hours I really have enough hah

mint coral
signal cosmos
#

I want to play something next

signal cosmos
#

Not my type of game probably

#

I mostly enjoy RPG games probably

#

Like Witcher 3 or cyberpunk

fervent radish
signal cosmos
#

But still, I had great fun, I think one of the best games in that genre

mint coral
#

Tbh if you are only missing the hidden fists I'd just do like a few runs each day until it happens

#

instead of trying to focus hard on it

#

Cuz it gets boooring

hazy path
#

I’m actually glad I got to play this game when I did. I don’t really play much PC games since I just watch platinum runs of them on YouTube. Had too much fun with this one.

signal cosmos
#

Now, I'm gonna play horizon forbidden west

#

And I'm gonna give a chance to cult of the lamb in that genre

#

But I have to say this, that I really enjoy your community, communication here is awesome, and designers are doing a great job with early access, and lessening players

#

So thanks, have a great night, I would back here after my platinum trophy

lethal dock
#

favorite hades music?

old bluff
#

Good riddance

lethal dock
mint coral
lethal dock
#

help why does discord say i playing minecrat for 9 hours

hazy path
#

Is Golden touch better for end game players or Deep Pockets is still the go to?

lethal dock
hazy path
#

Thanks šŸ™šŸ¾

lethal dock
lethal dock
mint coral
#

Early money is way better

#

So you can set up your build and what not

#

Golden touch is pretty much the "I wanna gurantee the expensive stuff at styx" or "hording slash meme"

#

But tbh if you open some random duos and get to sell them repeatedly is not that hard to get the money even w/o golden

lethal dock
#

is hoarding build op

#

kinda

#

i have like 2 thousand money when im fighting papa

hazy path
#

Ah I see

#

I think I’m at the point of the game where I’m not looking for diamonds that much.

#

I just tend to see Titan blood more than diamonds at Styx

mint coral
#

Nah

lethal dock
#

i feel like diamonds are kinda secondary because most diamond expenses is for music

mint coral
#

The dmg from hoarding ain't never beating just buying stuff

#

Cuz its added at the end of the dmg calculation

lethal dock
mint coral
#

I'm not sure if its after or before crits

#

But it really doesn't change much

lethal dock
#

i dont think its before crits because then crits would be kind of usseles

mint coral
#

Crits normally always activate at last yeah

#

But for example merciful end's +40 doom dmg is a flat amount unaffected by buffs

#

And I don't remember if hording is the same

lethal dock
#

is doom even that useful without the stacking thing

mint coral
#

Doom is merciful end or bust

lethal dock
#

i dont really use it but i dont really use it so i dont have strong opinions lol

mint coral
#

Dire misfortune is funny but nowhere near the dps

#

(it gives you a single bigger number tho)

lethal dock
#

yeah thats true i guess

#

doom would probably be most useful stuff if it had crit

mint coral
#

Oh doom can still crit

lethal dock
#

wait

old bluff
#

Doom can crit with PP or mark

lethal dock
#

oh yeah

#

not that tho

mint coral
#

Merciful end on top of the deflect triggers doom gives a +40 dmg bonus when activating ME

#

Is this +40 that can't crit

fervent radish
#

Maybe

lethal dock
#

wait we have like 4 people active in hades 1 chat lets go

old bluff
#

Hades damage calcs are super cursed ngl

lethal dock
mint coral
#

I would call hades in general weird but beo is the exception bouldy

old bluff
#

Beo is so funny

lethal dock
#

totally out of blue but i cant be the only one who tought secret bow aspect was artemis

mint coral
#

(don't look at gilga)

lethal dock
mint coral
#

A sad aspect

old bluff
#

A very sad aspect

lethal dock
#

i like how both of you responded with the same vauge description

mint coral
#

Is the hidden fists

#

And contender for being at the bottom of aspects

lethal dock
#

i havent unlocked all apsects yet but im too lazy i keep playing arthurzagsnooze

old bluff
unkempt lotus
#

I love the Gilgamesh fists

old bluff
#

Chiron got a massive damage buff

lethal dock
#

whats the best fist aspect anyway

mint coral
#

Dem

lethal dock
#

i keep playing demeter

#

cuz of 5 hangover stuff

mint coral
#

Wait how does it lose to talos too

old bluff
#

Chiron is like high C maybe even lowest B for speed now

lethal dock
#

what would be the best aspect for speed anyway

old bluff
#

Beo

mint coral
#

Spaghetti shield

lethal dock
#

that much tho

old bluff
#

By a massive margin

lethal dock
#

i dont really play shield so i dont know weird strats or abuses

#

it is to passive for my liking

jagged hamlet
#

Beowulf doesn't require any special techniques. It's just a rapid-fire grenade launcher

mint coral
old bluff
#

I don't think the word passive can be used to describe Beo

mint coral
#

Also has big aoe/range

lethal dock
#

no like in gameplay perspective i prefer sword or fists more more active

#

i dont know about damage

narrow loom
#

what is psuedo tech

#

I like gilga though

#

I think that maim is a flop

#

but using gilga while ignoring maim is actually pretty nice

#

if you have a high damage dash boon it actually works quite well

narrow loom
#

though I understand that there are levels to this. Even if gilga can do okay, there are way better

old bluff
narrow loom
#

interesting

#

Need to try that

#

especially on zag bow

#

is there a guide for it

lethal dock
stiff obsidian
#

i tried this for half an hour got nowhere

#

too hard

stiff obsidian
#

forgot i finished all bow 50s i never have to touch that disgusting excuse of a weapon again

lethal dock
twin thistle
#

Bow slander zageyes

twin thistle
stiff obsidian
#

i still cant figure it out

twin thistle
#

Maybe my binds are more based

lethal dock
lethal dock
#

after unlocking arthur i really dont feel like playing any other weapon zagsnooze

#

"hello i am god i walk on lava. obey me."

fervent radish
#

šŸ—æ

#

I don’t think I can sub 10 on Arthur

lethal dock
twin thistle
#

Get a clear time of under 10 minutes

lethal dock
#

in game time?

#

i have no idea how people beat like hades in a minute

narrow loom
#

I have never tried arthur

#

I have it unlocked but there is no blood invested

lethal dock
narrow loom
#

I do want to try every aspect but I don't like using incomplete weapons

#

my weapons have to be max before I use them

lethal dock
#

arthur is very slow hitting but with the +50 hearth and damage reduction you dont need speed. enemies need speed to run from u

#

it gives off a lot different gameplay vibe to me rather than like aspect of zag where i just spam dash and attack button

winter marlin
#

no need to max arthur aspect, if you never get hit, its the same as unupgraded

narrow loom
#

yeah I was thinking that

lethal dock
narrow loom
#

I read the description and there isn't actually any damage boost

#

it boosts the damage reduction from that aura

#

which I doubt i'd be using much anywya

lethal dock
#

alternate moveset

#

but yeah its true

narrow loom
#

so I guess I can give arthur a try

#

since the main appeal is the alt moves

lethal dock
#

arthur being rather more defensive and slow hitting is because of the legend arthur so it kind of has to be that way anyway

winter marlin
#

you should also try unupgraded alt spear, it also wont matter if you never get hitšŸ”„

fervent radish
lethal dock
fervent radish
#

Arthur animations are just so slow I don’t enjoy it much

lethal dock
#

i guess thats fair

#

i can see how it doesnt appeal to everyone

winter marlin
#

getting used to dash attacking to speed up attacks takes a bit

fervent radish
#

Even the dash strikes are slower

stiff obsidian
#

i love arthur for its nice aoe

#

swings usually hit the entire wave if u position urself irght

lethal dock
#

is alt spear good because like i dont know alts attack really dont be dealing that much damage compared to like aspect of hades r achilles for faster

fervent radish
#

Alt?

lethal dock
#

guan yi

#

or something

fervent radish
#

Oh

#

It’s fine for going fast

#

Very powerful for pushing heat though

lethal dock
#

why tho

stone python
#

guys

#

i just sold a duo boon

#

and i got it back

#

am i gonna get executed?

stiff obsidian
#

its not great at heat

lethal dock
#

dont sell it again

#

gods have a plan for it literally

#

i feel like hades1 missed opportunity to hide secret chamber or easter eggr smth at asphodel lavas

stone python
#

i didnt get another sell

lethal dock
stone python
#

hades shot me

lethal dock
#

aw

stone python
#

is this normally surposed to happen?

lethal dock
#

boiling blood?

stone python
#

no he just pulled out a gun and shot me

lethal dock
#

oh

#

i dunno

#

i dont think os

fervent radish
lethal dock
#

lasting consequences?

fervent radish
#

Yeah

lethal dock
#

oh thats nice actually

reef axle
#

if i still have a ton to do on hades 1 should i wait on playing 2?

lethal dock
jagged hamlet
#

Sure. Hades 2 isn't complete anyway

reef axle
#

i just don't wanna spoil my intrest in 1

lethal dock
#

so the story completes eachother

reef axle
#

i finally beat him and am now unlocking and upgrading weapons

lethal dock
#

it may be reverse and u could want to play 1 BUT i didnt play 2 so i dont have strong opinion

reef axle
#

i appreciate the input, i just feel like the first game has soooo much to do that starting another might cause me to never get to it lol

lethal dock
#

try to get urself into a challenge maybe

#

"i have to beat with this weapon under 30 minutes!!" dont be too extreme and like set them for ur level

reef axle
#

stickybot lol killing me , we are discussing the first hades game

lethal dock
#

when newbie comes and says im gonna break the new world record speedrun theyre gonna be tired so fast

reef axle
#

im not breaking anything other than my controller lol

lethal dock
#

its like 1:30 am and theres a 8 hour car ride tomorrow im breaking no record bro

narrow loom
#

I think it's a game that keeps on giving

#

and there is a lot of content and stuff to do even after the epilogue

#

hades 2 is still early access

#

rudimentary bare bones type stuff

#

I see the potential but it needs updates

#

I like H1 a lot more rn but thats to be expected

lethal dock
#

h1 actually got a perfect balance

lavish sorrel
mint coral
lethal dock
#

its not too grindy but it has some connection between runs so it doesnt feel 0, just when you think u dont have much to do you get stuff like demeter, fishing rod, music, wth even new cosmetics for the whole underground (i forgor what theyre called

narrow loom
#

at the current moment I don't like H2 THAT much

#

I'd rather play h1

#

Note this isn't a knock on h2, I know that it's still EA

#

I expect that it will be better than H1 soon

lethal dock
#

i didnt buy hades 2 yet but i dont expect it to be better than hades 1. The actual game set the standarts pretty high already and sometimes sequels suck so

narrow loom
#

nah it's definitely not a sucky sequel

#

it's a good game in its own right even right now

#

but it just needs updates

#

it's a much bigger and ambitious project than H1

#

but it's the same dev team

lethal dock
#

i know supergiant games wouldnt make a bad sequel but i feel like theres a good chance it wont be so much different than 1 when you rate the fun

narrow loom
#

and that same dev team made H1

twilit lodge
#

Hades 2 sucks until it’s on switch

narrow loom
#

so I trust that they will make H2 good

twilit lodge
#

Then maybe it doesn’t suck, I’ll find out then

narrow loom
#

you play on switch?

twilit lodge
#

Accurate

narrow loom
#

but you will see the potential once you play

lethal dock
#

i wanna play hades a bit more before i do so

#

meanwhile it would be bit more developed

narrow loom
#

H2 spoilers ||H2 in early access already has like 1.5x more content than H1, and it's not low effort content bloat either. Once the game is actually out, it's gonna have around 2x more content than H1||

narrow loom
#

that's what I am doing rn lol

#

I already have H2 tho

#

but I stopped playing it

narrow loom
#

I am waiting until more updates

narrow loom
#

some things in h2 are kinda making me mad too

lethal dock
#

im not saying this will be the case for h2 but sometimes game developers forget the actual essence while making the sequel

narrow loom
#

like the weapons and the heat system

#

I don't like them rn

lethal dock
#

i would want like a anti heat system in hades 2

narrow loom
#

So I am waiting and hopefully it's better

#

They have plans to improve the heat system already so I know that will be better

#

but the weapons idk

lethal dock
#

u spend 2 heat on like less damage but u can lower 1 heat toget more health

#

something like that

#

@/mods ( i dont really wanna ping)

narrow loom
#

that's interesting

lethal dock
#

it would be fun game mechanic

#

for builds and stuff

#

dont really expect it in the game tho

#

would be a bit hard to balance

narrow loom
#

yeah

lethal dock
narrow loom
#

I wish the hades game artists would draw other greek mythological figures in the hades style

#

I'm aware people di that already

lethal dock
#

art style is very good

narrow loom
#

but I want to see it from the actual game artists

lethal dock
#

to be honest theres not that much art around the game (existing few characrer artwork have same bottom different emotion and stuf) BUT the art there is is amazing

#

nectar is nectar like actually a drink

narrow loom
#

the way I see it (because of percy jackson)

lethal dock
narrow loom
#

Nectar is the drink of the gods and ambrosia is the food of the gods

lethal dock
#

but i never knew people added milk to their tea like wth bro šŸ’€

narrow loom
#

Man I miss percy jackson I want to read it again

lethal dock
narrow loom
#

though I was a kid when I was reading it I don't know if it ages well for adults

lethal dock
#

thinking about it i dont really have much book to read

#

is it a good one

#

maybe i can buy it

narrow loom
#

well i'm not sure

#

I liked it A LOT when I was 10

#

but i'm not 10 anymore

#

so Idk if I would like it as much

#

or at all

lethal dock
#

well u make some points

narrow loom
#

I think a good greek mythology book is Circe

#

that one had me reading fr and I don't even read books like that

lethal dock
#

i dont even know what circe means

narrow loom
#

it's a name

lethal dock
#

clichƩ?

#

oh

narrow loom
#

I recommend it

#

I actually bought it too

#

but if you don't want to buy it you can probably get it through other means that I would never condone

lethal dock
#

i dunno i like all kinds of books

#

my favorite book is from a turkish writer

narrow loom
#

whats it called

lethal dock
#

well i dont know the translate but "Şimdiki Ƈocuklar Harika"

#

hold up let me translate

narrow loom
#

oh

lethal dock
#

Kids Nowadays Are Great

#

unlike the name suggests it isnt like a boomer book wth šŸ’€

narrow loom
#

my grandmother is (allegedly) turkish

#

or part turkish

#

idk

lethal dock
#

well the book is about two kids messaging eachother /via mail not ethernet mail or something
its comedy tho so it isnt like deep philosophy

#

released in 1967 apparently, it is a fun book but i dunno like u i read it as a child too

#

so yeah

#

anyways 2 am why am i even awake, i will be sleeping now (probably a hour later 🤣 ) anyways later then

old bluff
#

gn

narrow loom
#

good night

lethal dock
#

yes

narrow loom
#

holy

#

the damage numbers with heart rend arthur

#

😭

#

doing 11k damage in one hit is bonkers

north sandal
#

anyways tho

#

should i get triple bomb, cluster bomb or delta chamber

#

i literally just started the run this is like the third room if that helps

old bluff
#

What aspect

#

Of rail

narrow loom
north sandal
#

zagreus tbh im trying to start unlocking other aspects tho

#

if theres like a specific one i should be shooting for

#

no pun intended

narrow loom
#

eris and hestia are the best aspects

#

but for your current situation

#

actually edward can answer he knows it better

old bluff
#

I think delta chamber is best for a new player due to it giving you back your iframes when you dash

#

It also means you don’t have to manage the reload which can be really nice for a new player

narrow loom
#

but what if he gets clockets tho

north sandal
#

i would but i also forgot to mention i got +90% special damage if that changes anything

#

if not ill do that just thought that artemis boon might influence what i choose

narrow loom
#

i've been underestimating acorn a lot

#

I should use it more

#

5 hits doesn't sound like a lot but I realized that I didn't take a single bit of damage in the final fight

twilit lodge
#

Simply get clockets

old bluff
#

ā„¢ļø

mint coral
#

Just rng manip the anvil into clockets delta

stiff obsidian
#

i did that

#

45 eris em4 savestate

#

not manip it just happened

twilit lodge
#

Go to the clockets store and order one (1) clockets

narrow loom
jagged hamlet
#

radi, you're a genius!

old bluff
latent moon
#

it's basically twice as fast so therefore twice as many clockets

old bluff
#

Still worse than epic RD

latent moon
#

okay but it's funnier

twilit lodge
#

My Minecraft dungeons game trial detour is over

#

Back to hades

#

I have been trying to get Aphrodite’s keepsake for like 10 runs at this point

#

But she won’t show up to gift

fervent radish
#

At all?

twilit lodge
#

I saw her twice I think, forgot to gift her the second time I saw her

#

And since then she’s just

#

Awol

jagged hamlet
#

Forgets to gift. Aphrodite gets offended and leaves. "She won't show up" zaglol

north sandal
#

any tips on how to do higher heats

#

i think highest i managed was like 7

fervent radish
#

Otherwise if you have an aspect in mind I can give tips

old bluff
#

I can give some (incorrect) tips as well

fervent radish
#

the best aspects for pushing heat are rails and shields, particularly eris and hestia

#

(all shields tbh)

twilit lodge
#

Aspect of cshot

fervent radish
#

Except Zeus

latent moon
#

that can aspect of cshot too

lethal dock
#

are we playing the same gane tho what the hell is 11k

stone python
#

hi

narrow loom
#

šŸ‘€šŸ‘€

lethal dock