#h1-discussion

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twilit lodge
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Ooh nice

rustic vale
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$65? CAD or something but it was worth it to play my steam games on controller

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Oh what

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Thunderstore only has Hades 2 mods and not Hades

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where did I previously find Hades mods

old bluff
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Nexus

twilit lodge
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Dark web

rustic vale
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first page and I've already seen 2

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uh

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2 mods that I'd consider "why"

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"who thought of this"

twilit lodge
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Sprite replacer, also known as boobie mod

rustic vale
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actually

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I know a dude who came into the ssg server to ask how to replace aphrodites model

twilit lodge
rustic vale
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because he didn't want to see all that yk

twilit lodge
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Ohh I remember that

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I was here for that lmfao

rustic vale
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who the

twilit lodge
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I mean, I get it kinda

rustic vale
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no I

twilit lodge
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Only kinda

rustic vale
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I mean I remember your name but not the pfp and the disconnect made me forget

twilit lodge
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What

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Meeeee?

rustic vale
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unless

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there've been multiple aspect of bingus's

twilit lodge
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Nope

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It was me

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Two years ago

rustic vale
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hades idle game?

old bluff
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That's Zyru's mod, it's awesome

rustic vale
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just came across some

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mods I hadn't thought about

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pierced butterfly finally worth thinking about?

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also mobile moving while shooting is just cursed

twilit lodge
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Hades of Isaac

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I knew hades had the potential to become a twin stick shooter

rustic vale
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more mods I found that are definitely aimed at like

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a different demographic of player

twilit lodge
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I need a mod that flashes the whole screen red when there’s a chaos gate, fishing spot, pool or shop

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I see them as I enter

mint coral
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rerolls after boss fight kinda fun

twilit lodge
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And by the time the room is over my brain has emptied itself and I walk right out

mint coral
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who cares about UC

rustic vale
old bluff
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This sould have been a thing ngl

mint coral
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beautiful

old bluff
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Slicing flare is so ass

rustic vale
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"Ares's cast for Aspect of Beowulf is originally a large rift. Deep in the original game code, there is an implementation for a Doom-based effect instead. This mod converts Slicing Flare into a Doom Flare to..."

old bluff
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Kinda sick

mint coral
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that sounds like a pseudo mod

rustic vale
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into a Doom Flare to synergize with Merciful End and other Ares' boons.

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ah yes

old bluff
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Who made it?

rustic vale
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synergy with ME

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Zyru

twilit lodge
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MEowulf returns

rustic vale
old bluff
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Makes sense

mint coral
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oh from zyru

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what ed said bouldy

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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That’s one way to handle it

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Comically oversized censor bars would be funnier

old bluff
twilit lodge
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It has no sound sadKek

old bluff
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Who needs sound when you can appreicate jazz's incredible skill

stone python
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i just beat the boss

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with 1 hp left

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jesus christ

twilit lodge
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Good jorb

weary lotus
weary lotus
stone python
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cant say that

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anyways

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am gonna go cry myself to sleep

twilit lodge
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Because you beat the boss?

jagged hamlet
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I bet Aphrodite wears waaaaaaaay too much perfume

old bluff
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100%

stone python
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no am gonna cry because I GOTTA DO THAT 5 MORE TIMES!

old bluff
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What boss did you beat

stone python
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hades

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the big man

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first time

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1 hp

old bluff
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gg

stone python
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0 revives left

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also how does the funny hades spear work

rustic vale
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hits exactly the right amount

rustic vale
stone python
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yea

rustic vale
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If you hit an enemy with your spin, they get a debuff that makes them take extra damage from your attacks (notably this doesn’t apply to the spin move itself) and specials until it wears off

jagged hamlet
stone python
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does it stack with the 2 boons 40% damage>

rustic vale
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and Hades spear also gets extra range on it’s spin

rustic vale
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damage boosts work

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additively in Hades (aside from crit damage)

stone python
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i got a idea

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crit

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and doom and weak

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plus hades spear

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= die

rustic vale
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A +100% boost to my strike from an epic aphrodite strike + an extra +150% from Hades spear = total +250% damage

stone python
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now i gotta make that

rustic vale
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there’s no synergy

stone python
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idk

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what would be something good with weak?

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and crit

rustic vale
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Zeus would work well on call as aphrodite synergy

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and tidal dash from poseidon is just strong by itself tizomg

stone python
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mr wine?

rustic vale
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uh same could be said for divine dash

old bluff
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Dio call is nice

rustic vale
stone python
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devine dash just

stone python
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with uh low tolerance

rustic vale
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I mean

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Dio call is just strong by itself

stone python
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dio is just like that

rustic vale
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And low tolerance doesn’t really work on dio call

stone python
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can you like recap this

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let me put this in a doc

rustic vale
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well it does, but dio call’s minicall only hits 6 times

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So you’re only getting a 20% boost instead of a 60%

latent moon
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dio call would prefer curse of nausea

stone python
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recap this rq

rustic vale
stone python
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please

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am gonna put it in a doc

rustic vale
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It’s crit + other stuff

latent moon
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yeah idk what's going on so give a recap lmao

stone python
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what i got is

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Hades spear + crit + weak + dio call + devine dash + zeus = deatj

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is that all?

twilit lodge
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Where’d you get divine dash

jagged hamlet
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Ah, the classic 5 Olympian build

latent moon
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is hades spear necessary or can we use a different aspect

stone python
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or tidal dash

stone python
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its pretty useful

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since with 2 uh boons

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we got 40% extra damage

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and it has good aoe

latent moon
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i think if we're just chasing numbers then beowulf, hera, or hestia would give a bigger number

rustic vale
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Uh Hades Spear:
Spin makes enemies take more damage from attacks and specials (but not other spins).
Since Hades spear adds a whopping +150% (or like smaller amounts if yours is lower level) you can do a crit build.
Crit builds like artemis and aphrodite together.

Scaling from there could be any of the following;
Zeus call (strong, natural synergy with aprho)
Dio call (strong)
Tidal dash and divine dash both don’t offer great synergy, but are just strong by themselves.

rustic vale
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Are you talking about priviledged status

stone python
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yea

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its pretty ok

rustic vale
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It’s like

stone python
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Hades spear + crit + weak + dio call or zeus call + devine dash or tidal dash + 2 boon 40% = mass death

rustic vale
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bleh

stone python
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thats what i got

rustic vale
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anywyas

stone python
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ITS 40% MORE DAMAGE

rustic vale
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Family favourites is unconditional

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for like

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slightly less damage

rustic vale
stone python
rustic vale
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this build doesn’t even prok priviledged status without a 3rd god

stone python
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k just scrap that

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we need a keepsake

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or something idk

rustic vale
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Keepskes are just forcing your gods in and then defense for elsysium

latent moon
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hades spear doesn't even have good base damage the 150% is hitting a base 25 attack lmao

rustic vale
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Sorry for spelling tired

stone python
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fair sence

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did i just say fair sence?

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anyways am gonna go try this

twilit lodge
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Ok

stone python
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Hades spear + crit + weak + dio call or zeus call + devine dash or tidal dash = mass death

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this is it btw

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let me make a more detailed one

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the crit could be main attack

rustic vale
stone python
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since its the main damage

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weak secondary?

rustic vale
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It works either way since

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well

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I’m coming at this from the perspective of a special focused build which is why I say it works either way

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If you were to focus on striking you definitely want crit on attack

stone python
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anything yall wanna add?

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Hades spear + crit attack + weak special + dio call or zeus call + devine dash or tidal dash = mass death

latent moon
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the need to get explosive launcher lmao

rustic vale
# stone python since with 2 uh boons

Status curses are only the curses inflicted by boons.
Several Olympian Gods have them built-in to every boon they give you (weaken, chill). Others you need extra boons for (ruptured from razor shoals, jolted from static discharge)

Everything on this list is not a status curse, and will not help you get Priviledged status up;

Hades spin marking, Gilgamesh maiming, Rama Shared suffering and Talos magnetised pull buff, boiling/abyssal blood, killing freeze, charm, trippy stuns, dusa petrification, than marking

rustic vale
stone python
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hell yea

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hammers

latent moon
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if you dont get explosive launcher to actually inflict weak then it's gonna be super jank to play and execute

stone python
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sorry for uh the not experianced talk WHAT IS EXPLOSIVE LAUNCHER?

rustic vale
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you’re looking at explosiver launcher -> charged skewer (these are special focused hammers)

Alternatively… Serrated Point, Quick Spin, Massive Spin

latent moon
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you can cope with passion dash to afflict weak

stone python
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oh the hammer

rustic vale
stone python
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so makes the special good

rustic vale
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bigger base damage, daster, and doesn’t leave you lacking

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yes

latent moon
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explosive launcher is prob the only thing that is holding the build together lmao

rustic vale
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I mean Serrated Point for uh

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60 base damage dash strikes

latent moon
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if we do serrated then what's the point of having anything on the special

rustic vale
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heart rend tizomg

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ig

stone python
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Hades spear + explosive launcher + charged skewer + crit attack + weak special + dio call or zeus call + devine dash or tidal dash = mass death

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final thing?

latent moon
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heart rend isn't gonna activate bc the special is jank as hell

rustic vale
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Serrated Point is more cope if you don’t see explosive launcher

stone python
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bananas your better than me at this

latent moon
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so you wouldn't really use the special since you have to throw it, recall it, spin, then attack

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or spin first whatever

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either way the mark and weak are on like a 4 sec timer or something

rustic vale
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Isn’t Mark longer

latent moon
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it's not practical unless you get explosive launcher

latent moon
stone python
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explosive launcher is needed

rustic vale
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Weak is definitely 4s but I swear Punishing Sweep lasts longer

stone python
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the normal special in my opinion sucks

latent moon
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ngl idr how long that is bc i dont use hades spear or the spin

rustic vale
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Your opinion coincides with

stone python
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i suck

rustic vale
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fact

stone python
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HELL YEA

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if you cant tell am new to hades

rustic vale
latent moon
rustic vale
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this is less of “mass death” and more of “like one functional way you could use Hades spear” uh

latent moon
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tbf all the spears need a hammer to actually function well

stone python
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this is more like playing the gam

rustic vale
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Hades spear is not really conducive to mass death on the scale of other spears

stone python
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anyways

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am gonna try this

jagged hamlet
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Guan Yu is a grenade launcher

stone python
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and go cry

latent moon
rustic vale
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Just give it a shot ig

latent moon
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serrated btw

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arty atk

rustic vale
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ofc it was serrated

latent moon
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vaxon moment

old bluff
rustic vale
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See that’s what I was saying

latent moon
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it doesnt make it any less cursed tbf

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i still think spin yu for 64 heat is cursed

stone python
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also i would like to add in the uh 3rd little special type shop

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kiss of synx premium is the best to get correct?

rustic vale
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what

stone python
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or am i just bad at this game

rustic vale
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Story rooms

latent moon
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oh patty

stone python
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yea story

rustic vale
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Patroclus

latent moon
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depends

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if you're out of DDs then yeah it's good

stone python
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funny depression man

rustic vale
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Kiss of Styx depends on whether or not you need it… or if it’s even an option for you

latent moon
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otherwise cyclops jerky select is pretty neat

stone python
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anyways

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am gonna go try doing this

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tell yall how it goes

rustic vale
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Stubborn Defiance💪 Touch of Styx Dark gaming

latent moon
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hydralite also isn't bad either if you're low on hp, have full DDs, and doing a soup build

rustic vale
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and don’t have lc4 on*

stone python
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HELL YEA FIRST HAMMER THE FUNNY EXPLODING ONE!

rustic vale
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Lmao it’s meant to be

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make sure you’re grabbing all the special damage you can from Chaos

stone python
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bet

latent moon
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is this a special or attack build i'm confused

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does punishing sweep affect special

rustic vale
latent moon
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oh

rustic vale
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Hades spear would suck so bad if it didn’t

latent moon
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so that's why we want charged skewer lmao

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(i am a hades spear connesiour as you can tell)

rustic vale
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I’m just

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I’ve played a fair bit of everything

latent moon
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i just got a new monitor that's giant compared to my laptop screen i should play hades and see what that's like

stone python
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i got weak attack

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so

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i mean

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good enough

latent moon
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bc yaknow

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ME moment

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and cskewer moment i think for heat

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dont remeber how that happened

stone python
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i got crit special

latent moon
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@rustic vale gimme a good aspect to play

rustic vale
latent moon
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i dont want to play beo

jagged hamlet
rustic vale
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I remembered thst one well

stone python
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should i do empty inside or like

rustic vale
latent moon
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it's a dell tho!

stone python
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broken resoulve

rustic vale
stone python
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or crush shot

rustic vale
latent moon
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other than dell i've got no clue

jagged hamlet
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Dell makes good monitors!

rustic vale
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Broken resolve like signficantly boosts the damage damage reduction from weaken

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afaik it’s the only case of additive damage reduction

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empty inside just kinda bleh and

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crush shot is out of place here

stone python
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i got funny war man

rustic vale
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He doesn’t really ever have a good place when Aphrodite’s around tbh

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aside from hangover builds

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That’s the one time Aphrodite and Ares place nicely together

stone python
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hangover builds more like uh

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drunk driving

rustic vale
old bluff
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"play"

rustic vale
stone python
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ruh ruh

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charon the homie

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electric man

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zall

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call

rustic vale
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Yep

old bluff
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Zeus call is prob best call

latent moon
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the game is so big this is so weird

latent moon
stone python
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wisdom or tidal dash

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its what i need left

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and charged skewer

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am doin athena

fervent radish
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Tidal dash good

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But with tidal you’re probably best trying for flurry

stone python
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being able to do a RETURN TO SENDER! is very fun

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and this is a build

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a bad one

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but a one

rustic vale
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everything past the core 2 gods is optional

stone python
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k

rustic vale
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ofc if you naturally find those good 3 and 4th gods you take them but

stone python
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second wind side hustle or quick reload

rustic vale
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Yikes

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those all suck

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Second wind

stone python
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bet

rustic vale
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Quick reload doesn’t do really snything for you here

stone python
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and side hustle

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its side hustle

rustic vale
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Given you have zeus call and Aphrodite odds are you’ll find smouldering air and have

stone python
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k let me go back to destorying gods

hexed heath
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can i ask a question here?

rustic vale
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pretty much permanent uptime on your dodge chance and movespeed buff

stone python
hexed heath
stone python
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hades 1

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i dont have hades 2

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but hades 1 has like

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main thing

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and know charater

rustic vale
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Get Hades 1 now and then just get Hades 2 when it’s actually in full release

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or like

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you could get it earlier idk what your time constraints are

hexed heath
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makes sense

stone python
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back to gaming

rustic vale
hexed heath
hexed heath
stone python
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charon

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or crit and weak

rustic vale
stone python
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k crit and weak

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am broke

rustic vale
stone python
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ngl the gods are kinda rude

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they try to kill you when you dont choose them

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AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE 3RD BOSS

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THEY HELPIN THAT MAN

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oh wait its greek gods

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forgot

rustic vale
stone python
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hey you didnt choose me I CAST GUN

rustic vale
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Unless you’re in a scenario where you have every available god

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Then it defaults to artemis

stone python
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oh so its a god you dont have helping yoi

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like if i dont have demeter

rustic vale
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Yeah

stone python
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she can help the 3rd boss

rustic vale
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Theseus will only ever call gods you don’t have unless you literally have every god that you could have at your stage in the game

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which is possible

stone python
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atleast he chill about it

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he dont steal your gods

rustic vale
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Particularly on Fresh File runs, you only have access to Ares, Artemis, Dionyus and Athena, so once you have all 4

old bluff
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He can in fresh file

rustic vale
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Theseus uses Artemis

stone python
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wait ares

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god of war

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KRATO-

rustic vale
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since Demeter isn’t available to you

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the game makes Theseus use Artemis again

stone python
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BACK TO GAMBING

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lets go gambling!

rustic vale
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which would be an insanely niche circumstance

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and of course theres the theoretical way to get it to happen in a run with all 8 olympians but

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I haven’t looked thru the code to check that it’s actually possible

stone python
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back to getting my not very nice word rocked

rustic vale
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as long as you could walk into a shop in tartarus with 3 gods, take a random god bag for a 4th god, buy a 5th god and walk into the next chamber for a 6th god

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You should be able to have all 8 by Heroes

old bluff
stone python
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am gonna play the game now

rustic vale
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I’m just unsure about whether you can even have that happen in a shop

rustic vale
stone python
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aka 3rd boss

twilit lodge
rustic vale
rustic vale
old bluff
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Remember your ABC's, Asuper Bgiant Cgames

rustic vale
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I think I have yet to see a purple swift strike since I started doing attempts at that run, which is like

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I just need purple swift strike by eurydice

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Savescum to heroic

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and pray to savescum anvil if I don’t get either of the hammers I need

stone python
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am gonna have a amazing sleep

twilit lodge
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Just get the boons

rustic vale
stone python
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tmm,r

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sleep can wait

rustic vale
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That’s literally all that needs to happen

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But I just can’t find a purple swift strike, yet alone before Eurydice

stone python
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what is the second story are item should i choose

rustic vale
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Eurydice? Uh

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Is refreshing nectar the very bottom option

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I can’t remember the name

twilit lodge
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I mean it’s really just that simple

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Bottom option usually best

stone python
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did it

twilit lodge
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Unless you really know what you’re doing

rustic vale
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The very bottom option is the one you want, better rarity on future boons

stone python
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CHARON

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HELL YEA!

twilit lodge
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If Charon ever offers you money you should take it

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It’s free money

rustic vale
rustic vale
stone python
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also

rustic vale
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He’ll even throw in his credit card with it

stone python
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i used to think risk of rain 2 was better than that

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i was incorrect

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very incorrect

rustic vale
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I’ve been playing so much Risk of Rain 2 lately

stone python
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i love ror2

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new dlc

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kinda just

rustic vale
stone python
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lacked

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a bit

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also this game has kratos (god of war)

rustic vale
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Gearbox try not to cause more bugs than new things added by their dlc challenge

stone python
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party animals also slaps

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gang beasts but good

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and good controls

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snake time

rustic vale
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I’m waiting for 2 days and just

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floods of

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bugs bugs bugs

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everywhere

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for ror2

stone python
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ror2 scares ,e

twilit lodge
stone python
twilit lodge
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Does risk of rain involve rain for that matter

stone python
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no

twilit lodge
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Wow false advertisement

stone python
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i have no idea why its called risk of rain

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we should sue ror2

twilit lodge
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Next your gonna tell me the cells aren’t even dead

rustic vale
stone python
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there isnt any rise of rain

rustic vale
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Your character

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and all the items you find

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rained down from the sky after your ship got

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got

stone python
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is it rising?

rustic vale
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by the brothers

twilit lodge
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Hmm

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I’ll begrudgingly accept this

rustic vale
stone python
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acrid escaped the void feds

twilit lodge
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I haven’t been playing any roguelites lately

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Except balatro

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And now replaying hades

stone python
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hades when it goes to being the best rougelike

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(imo_

rustic vale
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Roguelite

stone python
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i love this went to dead

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to like

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alive

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because i said hey gamers

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beat the game with 1 hp left

rustic vale
stone python
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if you like rougelikes go out and stab everybody you meet

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they drop loot!

twilit lodge
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Was fun

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Well actually it sucked a lot

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Until we got worm scarves

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Then it sucked a little less

rustic vale
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waiting for someone to ask a question

stone python
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can me join?

twilit lodge
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It’s the only enjoyment we get out of life anymore

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No, you still have hope for a normal life

stone python
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is having depression a needed to be here?

rustic vale
stone python
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cause i have that

rustic vale
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it’s literally just that’s the type of people

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who are

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mainly here

twilit lodge
rustic vale
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“playing”

stone python
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next yall are gonna say you dont play as hades in hades

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back to beating up a snake of the magma and crying

twilit lodge
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That reminds me of when the spoiler rules for new players channel were even stricter than they seem to be now

rustic vale
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I’d say I’m pulling a Nyaanyaa in terms of how much I actually play Hades but I don’t wsnt

twilit lodge
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And you weren’t even allowed to say the words phase 2

rustic vale
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Supposed to mention aspects

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iirc

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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I feel like now we could be in here plotting to overthrow a nation

stone python
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hey guys wanna go do a germany

twilit lodge
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And the only repercussions would be stickybot telling us this channel is for the first hades game

rustic vale
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Mhm

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Watch AD swoop in

stone python
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or saying HEY HEY NO SAYING THAT WORD?

twilit lodge
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I mean

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Don’t say that word

rustic vale
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so like

twilit lodge
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Fairly simple

stone python
#

dont cuss

rustic vale
#

which country first

twilit lodge
#

I didn’t even see what word it was

stone python
#

lets do nebraska

rustic vale
#

I think France makes the most sense cuz that definitely needs-

twilit lodge
#

I’m thinking Denmark

rustic vale
#

Nebraska ain’t even a country

stone python
#

french suck

rustic vale
#

IDK if I can continue diplomatic relations with someone who doesn’t even know what a country is tizomg

stone python
#

sorry

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do i gotta do a logan paul?

#

i have made a conti-

twilit lodge
#

You have to do at least one Paul brother

#

Yes

rustic vale
#

I’m calling my lawyers if I see an apology video

stone python
#

man is late for gay

#

forced to do max heat no boon default gun

twilit lodge
#

Boonless Hestia with reload unmapped

#

This should be a speedrun category

stone python
#

thats just killing yourself speedrun

#

suisidal thoughts speedrun

#

mb stickybot

twilit lodge
#

First fist run on my new save

stone python
#

depression is just a mindset

twilit lodge
stone python
#

stop being a beta and do max heat no boon random controls

twilit lodge
#

Oh boy

#

It’s the fishing legendary boon tutorial run

#

Free 150gold

stone python
#

stickybot more like am gonna kill myself bot

#

GOTTEM

twilit lodge
stone python
#

GUYS THIS IS BAD

#

REAL BAD

#

JESUS CHRIST LOST HIS ANIMATIONS

#

AND IS MACH RUNNING AT ME

twin thistle
rustic vale
#

Even with all the skips in the world, js3 dc2 cp2 would kill you

stone python
#

what skips?

rustic vale
stone python
#

k

rustic vale
#

They’re all “skips” because they either pause the in-game timer or take like 2 seconds to get through anyways, and they mean you have to do one less regular combat room

fervent radish
#

i don't think you could do EM4 CP2 in that amount of time

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like your clip is 120 damage

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well, 240 if we assume shackle

#

and 2 hits on every enemy are taken up by DC

stone python
rustic vale
#

or the same but styx rats

stone python
#

beat thesus

fervent radish
#

nice

twilit lodge
#

Did they change how frequently fishing spots can show up?

#

Wait nvm I’m stupid

#

I have huge catch

#

But still I thought there was a minimum amount of chambers in between fishing spots

stone python
#

SO UH

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the builds good

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got rib

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am going to sleep

#

thanks for the build help other two goobers

rustic vale
stone python
#

shackle

rustic vale
#

that’s like the biggest thing that makes it work

stone python
#

thanky for helping me

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with staff

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build

rustic vale
#

have a goodnight Jeremy

stone python
#

this nyquil aint shi-

rustic vale
#

you’re welcome

stone python
#

tmmr

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a friend of mine

#

is gonna go to a spaghetti fest

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as peppino spaghetti

rustic vale
stone python
#

insert sleeping noises here

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small laying down

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then

#

sleepy

#

my cat prob is tired of me

#

shes eepying on my bed

twilit lodge
#

She eepy on my

round gorge
hazy path
#

@twilit lodge @mint coral @twin thistle @rustic vale Sorry for ping. I uh beat the game 💀 kinda shaking a little just wanted to thank you guys for all the support

#

It feels so weird because I did it with twin fist. I was doing soo bad with it. I didn’t know the weapon was this good with hangover and Artemis crits

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||greece looks beautiful also lol gonna walk through it||

rustic vale
hazy path
round gorge
#

How are you able to get the surface fish once you’re over with the game? I only got a carp and i think i’m missing two more

mint coral
round gorge
#

Oh

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That seems hard to get

#

Maybe with poseidon’s legendary

mint coral
#

The chance is the same afaik

round gorge
#

I use it

#

In styx

mint coral
#

Acorn is better usually

#

Eurydice

#

(aspho npc)

round gorge
#

Just one hammer to clockets

versed mason
#

does anyone know why the song 'the unseen ones' is now unavailable on spotify?

#

it's still up on the SGG youtube so im unsure what it's about

lavish sorrel
fervent radish
#

Tooth is fine in asphodel and it’s the go to keepsake for 64 heat there but I find that Athena in aspho gives more bang for buck since lernie isn’t that hard atm

#

Haelian isn’t the best representation of the game being played at a high level

#

Mostly he plays at 20 or 32, and tooth isn’t useful there

rustic vale
#

Oh no Haelian doesn’t do x or Haelian says z

fervent radish
#

Oh lmao he took shackle into aspho for his hestia run

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That’s funny

rustic vale
#

Haelian is like

#

a player

#

ever

fervent radish
#

Tooth is fine, but it’s situational

rustic vale
#

I’m biased against him after a few people wandered in from his aspect tierlist video and were like “wdym chiron isn’t the best aspect? Haelian put it in S tier in his video” when like

fervent radish
#

I don’t know how he has fun with garbage but to each their own

rustic vale
#

The video itself he states is based on percieved strength and enjoyment iirc

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chiron is easily the 4th best bow aspect by a mile

old bluff
#

Honestly, it’s not even really his fault, he made it very clear that the video was highly subjective at the start, but most people just skipped to the weapon they wanted to see or looked at the tier list at the end and took that as cold, hard fact when Haelian knew it was not and did not try to pretend it was

rustic vale
#

mhm

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Most of the good Hades players just

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don’t do that

#

they’re too busy grinding away by themselves or on twitch

fervent radish
#

Because he plays a lot and posts consistently. It doesn’t mean he’s particularly good or knows a lot about the meta

stiff obsidian
#

he does

fervent radish
#

He’s good, but you shouldn’t compare everything to him

fervent radish
# stiff obsidian he does

My point is just that being popular doesn’t equate to being good, and he isn’t the gold standard for build knowledge

old bluff
#

He is good at the game, but I would say most of his build knowledge is limited to 2021-22 era of Hades high heat and speedrunning. I've seen him roll over Arty special for her attack on Beo, which hasn't been done for years

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iirc, that's an archaic Dio Beo strat done before flood flare was discovered to be better

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That's the type of knowledge Haelian is working with

round gorge
#

Is dusa’s companion better or worse than shady?

old bluff
#

What does Shady do again?

#

But Dusa and Skelly are the worse ones iirc

fervent radish
#

you say iirc like it's even under dispute

mint coral
old bluff
#

I don't even know what they do lmao

mint coral
#

(like 10 coins)

fervent radish
#

meg is the best 99.9% of the time, than and antos have niche potential uses

old bluff
#

I've only ever used meg

mint coral
#

Dusa is shoot stunning projectiles for like 10s?
Skelly is a nom-human shield

fervent radish
#

skelly spawns skelly and dusa spawns dusa but firing gorgon projectiles

old bluff
#

Oh yeah, now I remember

#

They both suck pretty bad sadly

stiff obsidian
#

dusa is stupid, it doesnt even work on minibosses

round gorge
mint coral
#

The only niche knowledge I have of dusa is that she can do the most dmg of all summons iirc

old bluff
#

Over like 30 seconds

mint coral
#

But that's assuming all projectiles hit lmfao

fervent radish
stiff obsidian
round gorge
#

It would be boss paralysis for 6-9 seconds

old bluff
#

Not really, the charm is actually really annoying

fervent radish
#

it works but it messes up wind ups

stiff obsidian
fervent radish
#

i'd prefer consistent boss patterns

old bluff
#

It can make dad do some wacky stuff

stiff obsidian
#

aphro aid literally makes them consistent tho

#

with smair u can lock a boss into doing a single attack over and over

#

so u always know what they do

round gorge
#

For theseus and asterius it makes asterius just run towards theseus

stiff obsidian
#

idk about non em3

#

with em3 u charm him when hes spinning

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or jumping

#

and he keeps leaping on theseus

fervent radish
stiff obsidian
#

im not used to any patterns

#

i suck at this game

fervent radish
#

rough

stiff obsidian
#

i should try death defiance 60 actually

old bluff
#

Based

fervent radish
#

it's easier for shield since you can play more rhythmically with extra iframes

stiff obsidian
#

em4 with 2-3 defiances should be easy, just get ely to align and u can do it easily

fervent radish
#

also yeah

stiff obsidian
#

ill try 55 first

rustic vale
#

usable

round gorge
#

The only reason you would even want it is if you somehow struggled against aphro theseus

rustic vale
#

If you struggled against aphro theseus just play any build with aphrodite in it anywhere

#

boom he can’t get her now

old bluff
#

You don't need a core for him to not be able to call aphro

mint coral
#

The * is that this is over 30 seconds lmfao

rustic vale
#

So you could do a smouldering air build or a crit build or a hangover build and be covered

#

against her

#

and never have to consider putting aphrodite on call

mint coral
#

The other funny dusa summon thing is that it could kill you before

rustic vale
#

Instead of just negating your damage; athena should actually deflect your stuff

#

when you fight her

mint coral
#

Zag when athena reflects his trippy flare

twilit lodge
#

Why does nobody use lucky tooth tho

twilit lodge
old bluff
#

People do in Aspho

twilit lodge
#

I know I just felt like asking the question since it’s been asked two days in a row now

#

Rarely is the question asked: why does nobody use lucky tooth?

old bluff
#

I remember one time when the question of why people don't run Sea attack on rail 3 days in a row by 3 different people

twilit lodge
#

💀

old bluff
#

And then when we tried to tell them that Zeus attack is better, they all said "but 40 damage is higher than 15 damage"

#

It was awful

lavish sorrel
hazy path
#

Btw what’s the average max HP you guys get to hades with?

old bluff
#

65

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(It's actually more like 140)

fervent radish
#

i had 328 on my zagshield 55

twilit lodge
#

For someone new to successful escapes, 200+ is a good amount to aim for

#

You can get away with much less but that only works if you’re able to kill things quickly enough that you don’t have much risk of taking damage

#

Which depends mostly on skill and game knowledge

fervent radish
#

The other consideration is how much damage you're taking

#

HL5 will literally need 2x as much health to support the same playstyle as HL0

twilit lodge
#

I’d say that’s outside of the scope of a first time clearer asking how much HP is good

fervent radish
#

for a first time clearer, probably as much HP as possible lol

#

i see a lot of first clears with 400 HP and all DDs lost

twilit lodge
#

I remember those days

old bluff
#

what

twilit lodge
#

🧼

old bluff
#

I didn't say anything

fervent radish
#

what

twilit lodge
#

You said a lot of words, I saw them before dyno erased

old bluff
#

Hp is nice and all, but with how much build control 0 heat Hades has, it's usually better to try and create a strong build that will make encounters and boss fights quicker

#

nvm, I left the o out in encounters lmao

twilit lodge
#

Looooool

fervent radish
#

slaying indeed

twilit lodge
#

In general just learning that big attacks want % gods and fast attacks want on-hit gods is a big boost to your clearing power

#

And learning how to build shape

#

With trinkets and understanding of how the pool works

stiff obsidian
twilit lodge
#

Murrrrrrr..drrrrr?

old bluff
#

I like Hades more, but Hades 2 is not finished yet

fervent radish
#

1 tbh

#

But it’s not a fair comparison at the moment

twilit lodge
#

You’re telling me that the people who choose to chat in h2 channels prefer 2, and the people who choose to chat in h1 channels prefer 1?

#

This is quite shocking

old bluff
#

Whattttttt???? that's crazy!!!1

fervent radish
#

insane conclusion

twilit lodge
#

Literally incredible

#

I don’t always play melee but when I do lernie ground pounds at least 20 times in a row

#

This is not an exaggeration probably

mint coral
#

Blue lernie moment

twilit lodge
#

I keep having runs that are absolute suffering because I never get a good special or attack boon

#

This is my fault for not gifting nectar when I saw Aphrodite

mint coral
#

No arty/athena/dem?

twilit lodge
#

I have arty in pool but she offered dash and two passives

#

And I have pos cast and dash but he hasn’t shown back up now that I’ve locked myself out of aphro attack

stiff obsidian
#

i hate h2

#

ok maybe thats strong

#

but it not working for me

twilit lodge
#

I have no pc so I also hate h2

stiff obsidian
#

i hate the enemies

latent moon
#

have you tried killing them

stiff obsidian
#

yes

latent moon
#

ah welp

#

idk then

twilit lodge
#

Are they all armored speeder witches

mint coral
#

They are all homing witches

fervent radish
#

it feels like ||mel|| is always moving through molasses

latent moon
#

cloner savior numbskulls

fervent radish
#

||mel|| could not deal with BP2 enemies

twilit lodge
fervent radish
#

||she's too slow||

twilit lodge
#

Finally after Asterius I have an attack boon for this nemesis run

#

And it’s rare tempest strike

#

Good thing I’m about to lose bc this run is not fun

#

Peak suffering

fervent radish
#

lmao thats rough

#

pray for patty, sell attack, and take special

twilit lodge
#

I got forced into Zeus and ares

fervent radish
#

no poms in dash sucks

#

thats not bad

#

you can still put together a decent soup

twilit lodge
#

I’m just going to pray that something kills me soon

#

Patty showed up

#

My suffering has been extended

#

Didn’t know Styx premium will refill tooth

#

Endshop boon is Poseidon of course

fervent radish
#

nice

twilit lodge
#

Yup

#

Proceeded to lose all 4 refilled DD against heroes because this build ain’t it

#

Double strike Zeus call is putting in some work though

#

Tooth ranked up so I got a DD back, and 2 sack…. So now I get to die to dad. The suffering has been extended to max

gray wind
#

Yooo

twilit lodge
#

Yo

jagged hamlet
#

🪀

twilit lodge
#

Forgot how easy it is to get screwed out of seeing any boons without that one mirror talent

#

Two dio boons and one ares I skipped so far and I’m in asphodel

#

Of course neither dio offered attack for my fists

#

And Zeus offers to replace dio special instead of offering attack aaaaaa

high pike
#

Is there any-

#

Hades game official merch?

mint coral
high pike
#

Ooooooo right

#

Thank you!

#

I love that thanatos figure but my total 70 $ is killing me

#

💔

mint coral
#

It do be like that

twilit lodge
#

Why did I take Athena second in this duo room in Elysium

#

She keeps shielding the eyeballs

latent moon
#

lmao it do be like that

fervent radish
#

Athena second is probably the most ideal trial thing though

twilit lodge
#

Forgor how busted Achilles is even with no blood invested

#

Just the special alone

hollow swan
#

We need the aspect of bingus

old bluff
#

Aspect of Gargalon would be better ngl

fervent radish
twilit lodge
#

Aspect of Steve Jobs

stone python
#

sore throat is killin me

twilit lodge
#

Never fought that enemy is it in Tartarus

echo scaffold
#

Ive cleared a couple runs, and now ive gotten the thing in the top left corner, "find a way into Hades' private quarters" as a quest. Ive gotten the "key" from achilles but now im stuck. It wont let me into the administration hall, and it wont let me go into my room to do another run.

mint coral
echo scaffold
#

Like of the house?

#

Ive qalked around this whole place

#

Walked*

mint coral
#

From achilles, go up

echo scaffold
#

Go left? Or straight up into a wall?

#

Oh found it

#

Ty

mint coral
#

My bad at that explanation anyways bouldy

echo scaffold
#

I swear to god that looks like wall art

#

Nah ur good

#

I just never thought to explore up there

mint coral
twilit lodge
#

Zag shield always feels so slippery

#

Like someone waxed the floors

#

I guess all shields

stone python
#

this game is gonna cause me to do something i cant say here or am gonna get airstriked

twilit lodge
#

True

formal citrus
#

For Arthur dashing mid combo you have to hit dash after you hit attack? I think I finally have it

#

Do those count as dash strikes for damage?

mint coral
formal citrus
#

So swift strike works on them?

twin thistle
#

Also if you hold attack then you can aim the attack direction mid wind up

hazy path
#

Did the Devs ever speak on why they chose to make Demeter so dangerous in the Theseus fight? I beat it but barely.

#

It’s like you thought you escaped danger then boom that circle surrounding him just appears. Not sure how to play against that perfectly.

jagged hamlet
#

Gramma scary

twilit lodge
#

She’s only added to the god roster after your first escape I think, or at least your first time reaching the surface

#

So if they actually designed any of the Theseus god favors to be tougher than the others, that could be why

fervent radish
twilit lodge
#

But I feel like they didn’t design any of them to be harder necessarily

#

They just ended up that way

fervent radish
#

yeah they all have their dangers

twilit lodge
#

But I’m not a dev!

hazy path
#

Ah I see. I’m using the heat system for the first time. I still don’t understand it much so I’m not really concerned

fervent radish
#

least hazardous is probably ares?

#

maybe arty

#

since the circles are predictable

old bluff
#

Pos is pretty easy

hazy path
#

Arty I like playing against

formal citrus
hazy path
#

Gives me time to dash

twin thistle
#

Yep

formal citrus
hazy path
#

Pos I struggle with a little. (a lot)

twilit lodge
formal citrus
#

Til

twilit lodge
#

If you dash strike by pressing both buttons at the same time on say zagsword, you end doing the combo every now and then

hazy path
#

Do I start using the heat system now since I beat the game for the first time or hold off on it?

twilit lodge
#

Sometimes it’s nice sometimes it’s unhelpful

twilit lodge
jagged hamlet
#

Sure, Andre. Unless you've yet to clear 0 Heat on any weapon; on those weapon, get 0 heat done first

twilit lodge
#

But if you want to get more diamonds, blood, ambrosia, you will have to start doing heat

#

Once you’ve done 0 heat escape for all 6 weapons anyway

hazy path
#

Ah I see. It seems difficult but I will attempt it

twilit lodge
#

Tight deadline is the free-est option for 1 heat

#

IMO

#

Some of the options are literally terrible, so if you’re gonna experiment on your own be warned

hazy path
#

That one scares me because of Styx. I ran it just now but died early on the chambers.

twilit lodge
#

Did you leave as soon as you found the sack?

#

Or did you try to clear all the tunnels

hazy path
#

Oh I died in the tunnels. Demeter Thesurs nuked all my DD. Was able to buy a diamond tho

mint coral
#

Could also do em1

twilit lodge
#

As long as you remember the clock is always ticking it’s not too hard to stay ahead of tight deadline 1

mint coral
#

Or if you don't mind skipping a bit, start with MM

#

Could also do bp1 to start the slashed benefits prophecy

formal citrus
hazy path
#

I can try that

mint coral
twilit lodge
#

The stygius slash combo has a huge knockback

#

Stygius is honestly so doodoo

#

I love it but there’s just so much that isn’t great

#

The hammer almost all suck

mint coral
#

Fresh file sword is kinda fun idk

#

In a "there's literally no other option" tho

twilit lodge
#

lol

#

Ff any weapon mod when

old bluff
#

Bow is an option

twilit lodge
#

Actually I’m sure that exists

old bluff
#

It does!

twilit lodge
#

And yeah technically you could do now

mint coral
#

@lavish sorrel has done quite a few iirc

mint coral
twilit lodge
#

On my newest save file I wanted to see what happens if you die before the first Athena boon

#

Because of the first nyx dialogue mentioning her

old bluff
#

oh, I thought we just talking about ff in general mb

mint coral
#

Once I'm back to the house that sword is getting dusted

twilit lodge
#

Nyx just isn’t there

#

And the run is the same next time you go in

#

I don’t think any weapons were there though

mint coral
#

If you rush through the story fast enough you can enter dad's room during the mom reveal flashback

#

This also softlocks you

twilit lodge
#

Can’t you just do that at any pace by not initiating the lie down thing

#

Or does it force you to lie down

hazy path
#

What’s Erebus? Is it a something I should prioritize or it’s not that important?

mint coral
#

5/10/15 depending on biome

#

reward is like the minibosses in styx so double the amount/extra rarity

hazy path
fierce junco
stone python
#

gamers

#

how in gods name do i get the persephone keepsake

fierce junco
#

I got dash later on, so when I got a pom, I used it on what I had

fierce junco
stone python
fierce junco
#

more

old bluff
#

10 times

stone python
#

JESUS CHRIST

#

well time to go staff gaming

#

hades or uh archiles staff

#

il let yall choose

old bluff
#

Achilles

stone python
#

thank you big man

latent moon
stone python
#

hi bananas

latent moon
#

and that's why mom pom sucks

#

gm

#

(it is not morning here)

stone python
#

its 11 for me

#

night

#

i like your funny words magic man

fierce junco
#

the crit helped so much with duo shot, it worked itself out oddly enough

stone python
#

when are we getting a m1 garand in hades

#

idc if its in hades 2

latent moon
stone python
#

I WANNA MAG DUMP SMALL CHILDREN THAT CANT KILL ME BACK

latent moon
#

and like some chaos buff basically

#

twin shot is just good on rama lmao

stone python
#

i just use lucky tooth the extra death defiance

#

like 3rd