h1-discussion

[old bluff]

I took 22

[stiff obsidian]

im just bad at the game

[fervent radish]

23 or so

[azure spruce]

how many chamber in satyr passage ? i have cast bonus for 5 chamber. If i go for i passage will i lose the buff?

[stiff obsidian]

3/4 mini chambers + one final chamber unless its the fountain room

[azure spruce]

so its ok to clear 1 tunnel right?

[lavish sorrel]

The sack can appear from the second tunnel onward

(≈55% chance of 2sack)

[old bluff]

100% if you use the modpack :)

[faint ruin]

Is there a reason to keep fighting Charon after you already beat for the prophecy?

[charred grail]

Not really unless you value the discount a lot

[stiff obsidian]

You get 300 coin lol

[woeful trout]

375 coins effectively is a lot

[faint ruin]

ty! not that much into the discount and im pretty good at discerning what I want to spend my gold on that when I reach styz im in good shape

[mint coral]

discount is fun to mass spend on charon wells

[stiff obsidian]

its also a fun fight

[rustic vale]

300 obols + 20% discount is huge

especially the earlier you get it

On casual runs I lowkey take Charon any and every time I see the option, and for like higher heat I’ll take him if I see him in tartarus and think I’ve got enough time

Although hl5 fo2 charon is a different beast ☠️

[stiff obsidian]

bet

[regal wolf]

what does ambiguity bonus do?

[rustic vale]

Increases your ambiguity (nothing)

Bouldy can actually give you semi-useful boosts he just also always has the chance to raise ambiguity instead

[regal wolf]

oh.

[rustic vale]

it’s like
+1-10% move speed, damage reduction, obols gained, strike damage, special damage or cast damage, or +2% ambiguity

[stiff obsidian]

most impactful one is +% coins

[rustic vale]

🙄

+move speed fr fr

legitimately the damage boost with hyper delivery is like

on par in the worst case if not better than any of the other damage boosts

[stiff obsidian]

that depends on you getting two other boons

hermes boons

epic too

[stiff obsidian]

hestia or eris

?

@placid vessel

wtf

@rustic vale

[rustic vale]

Zag rail

[stiff obsidian]

no

[rustic vale]

Eris

[stiff obsidian]

zzag rail is just eris with cp6

[rustic vale]

?

When hyper sprint doubles your movespeed, it counteracts that 50% from common rd

giving you a 1:1 +% additive

[stiff obsidian]

what

[rustic vale]

what

wdym by “only when epic” then

[stiff obsidian]

epic better than common

[rustic vale]

true

but like even with a common rd, you’re getting +x% global additive that would’ve just been +x% cast damage or whatever

plus u just move faster

and more scaling w/ ichors

[old bluff]

10% global additive kinda nice

[stiff obsidian]

youre not always getting it lol

[rustic vale]

~ I mean yeah you don’t always get hyper delivery however

movespeed

fun

[stiff obsidian]

plus at that point its quite insignificant and negligible

[rustic vale]

mhm

[stiff obsidian]

alright gang time to fight charon

[rustic vale]

and +1% strike damage isn’t equally as insignificant?

[old bluff]

I have not fought Charon in like 10 months

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1272022305081655337/image.png?ex=66b97696&is=66b82516&hm=7f7253d4cf48657f77a525494fb2ae67d4e2396b94462c6476d21f1e644230e3& my build gaming

[rustic vale]

I take him whenever I see him in casual runs tbh

or if it’s high heat in tartarus

cuz like it’s tartarus what am I losing anyways

[stiff obsidian]

same 😭 its surreal having the experience of new content in this game ive played so much

[rustic vale]

False Side when he finds out about the Hades DLC

[stiff obsidian]

idk his moveset

im just dashing randomly

[rustic vale]

Big paddle

[stiff obsidian]

peak eris gameplay

[rustic vale]

Big icy dash projectiles

stun

[stiff obsidian]

the double paddle sweep has the same timing as em4 double spin

roughly

bro he hits for 100

tf

[rustic vale]

yeah he hits like a truck

he’s normally pretty manageable but fo2 makes him uhhhh

a different beast

[stiff obsidian]

100 tho 💀 thats more than hades ever could unless em4

im gonna do hestia because hestia build is over in c1

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217113690445185024/1272024782292127795/image.png?ex=66b978e5&is=66b82765&hm=fcb93937adb7b76324132829864ddf410a51eecbe425ea8728d3e1e3257af5a3&

lol first try

using cf1 for this run too

[rustic vale]

Hence why em5 doesn’t exist

[stiff obsidian]

wait

lyaly card

wells cheaper?

dude i swear its so weird when u walk into a shop and the boons cost

168 coins

this shouldnt exist

[rustic vale]

oh yk what I just realised

I got this controller for my pc

but it works for my phone too

I could play Hades on my phone and just like oh wait that’s why I have my switch and one of those 2 has a significantly larger screen

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217358637836796004/1272034284991025182/image.png?ex=66b981be&is=66b8303e&hm=2e17bd833fd2bf2248b9dea8e3554321e3debafe334d239c183d3d3419b0f6eb&

i got steamrolled

annihilated

crushed

destroyed

stomped

[rustic vale]

Hey where’s the discount card

[stiff obsidian]

i didnt evn beat phase 1

and i even insta megged

[rustic vale]

Should’ve hit meg with the eris special

[stiff obsidian]

wht

what

[jagged hamlet]

Global damage buff 😎

[old bluff]

It does not work on Meg

[stiff obsidian]

megs not a part of my globe

shes a world of her own

[stiff obsidian]

this is a beautiful 50h build by c10 i f'ed it up by going charon

[rustic vale]

Should’ve built ME

[old bluff]

Shackle Eris is a unique idea

[stiff obsidian]

ive done arty attack 50

[rustic vale]

Glad to say I haven’t

[stiff obsidian]

mysterra did attackless

[twin thistle]

When you forget that charon two shots you

[neon tapir]

There's Hades mobile?

I didn't know that, can't imagine playing with a screen for Hades

[brisk trail]

Chat, are the assets and environment in Hades all 3D?

Or are they crazy good sprites?

[rustic vale]

Netflix has it for ios

[rustic vale]

3d model afaik

that’s how the sbeve mod is able to replace zag with minecraft dungeons steve

[jagged hamlet]

A lot of the environment is 2D

[junior lion]

2 questions \

what is the highest possible life you could get in a game

and is there any prerequesite to the achilles x patrolecus prophecy

[rustic vale]

it’s very hard to actually come up with the theoretical max tbh

[junior lion]

whats the most u got

[rustic vale]

uhh

I wouldn’t put it past myself to have gotten 500 at some point

which would be no where near the theoretical max but I can’t be bothered trying to get my max hp higher

I’m not typically going out of my way for max hp as is

[junior lion]

me either but i might do a run where i just try and get a hp only setup n like 1000 health

[rustic vale]

Quick check gave me this one after a small scroll back

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1188657038608310333/9544E41D-A1E1-457C-A921-5E0E61AA32F8.jpg?ex=66b967a2&is=66b81622&hm=4af90b6ec70c4ddc171cec2508d3ff36a7a176fc2333a9aa9fb32c249c7ec6eb&

[rustic vale]

Right right

[junior lion]

damn ur good

i think the most ive got is 450

how are you getting 10 minute times though

[rustic vale]

I mean I’m no speedrunner, I just picked up a few tips from speedrunners and have played a lot of zag bow

And then I spent a bunch of runs in a row just shooting for a sub10

[junior lion]

i dont think ive used bow more than twice

[stiff obsidian]

we can

ok nvm

when you introduce chaos

[rustic vale]

It’s possible, but not easy.

[stiff obsidian]

things get chaotic

[rustic vale]

How about wells

And centaur souls

[rustic vale]

I know quite a few people get turned off because the standing strike gameplay sucks

It’s slow

[stiff obsidian]

oh yeah damn

bow sucks ass

dont worry

[rustic vale]

Lets maybe not spread misinformation

[stiff obsidian]

hera is only good because it can use casts

and rama just has huge damage and shared suffering

other two are mid af

[rustic vale]

Mfw when the aspects have bonuses

[stiff obsidian]

nothing about the bow makes the bow good

[rustic vale]

And like

you can say that but look at sword fists spear

[stiff obsidian]

yes they suck

but no flurry jab is good

[rustic vale]

flurry jab is good but like twin shot or flurry shot tech or triple shot or pb are out of the question?

Last I checked bow has way more impactful hammers

[stiff obsidian]

yes and bow still sucks

with hammers

[rustic vale]

🤨

[flat plover]

Hi everyone i was wandering what's the price of all the health bar decoration but i can't find a wiki page about it do you guys have a source ?

[stiff obsidian]

idk personally flurry achilles > twin flurry zagbow

[rustic vale]

Like the ranks?

[flat plover]

Yea

[rustic vale]

You have to go to dad’s room ad talk to the resource director to get them

There are 50 of them and they increase in cost

every time

[flat plover]

yea i know how to get them but like where to find all the prices

[rustic vale]

Resource Director wiki page

[flat plover]

I find it

[rustic vale]

The total cost is 325k darkness + some other resources

[flat plover]

thank you

🙂

[rustic vale]

every other resource seems like irrelevant compared to the darkness wall tbh

[flat plover]

yea xD

[neon tapir]

I just got the most damage in a single bullrush with Beowulf, 3,800 damage, that's more than the Thanatos call

https://youtu.be/EvWHZyZ-Dzg?si=XhJQuiT6kkhpsup1

Epic poseidon cast boon lev 7, mirage shot, 4th casy from Chaoes and +69% cast damage

[brisk trail]

Guysss

What are the best items to buy from the contractor?

I'm sitting on 350 gems now

Idk how and what to spend them on

The gems are almost entirely for cosmetic features so I wouldn’t worry about it much, just spend freely. Gems are also pretty common to gather over time

[neon tapir]

Fix up the lounge to progress Dusa's quest

If you want to anyways

[bronze moth]

havent played 1 in a while maybe i should finally get the epilogue done as i wait for more hades 2 content, and maybe the other statues but idk about that yet lol

[old bluff]

The most I have ever had is about 9k off 5 casts

[old bluff]

This is giving me Jazz vibes, and I am not sure how much I like it

[brisk trail]

Guys, if I collect a second chaos boon in a single run, do I lose the first one?

[old bluff]

No

[brisk trail]

Zagreus just said "My chaos boon switched to a different effect"

What does that mean?

[old bluff]

He is talking about the curse switching to the benefit

[brisk trail]

Ohhhh

Thank you 👍

Gotta say, Chaos is a bit of a silly guy

Just give us the benefit, amirite?

[pure geyser]

hello friendos! I installed hades this morning and played like 10 runs but already got to Hades... I'm worried I missed a ton of dialogues and story, should I restart? Like I just got the dionysus boon start, I got to Hades the run before that
also, what is Hell Mode and what does it change?

[old bluff]

No, you can't really miss story in this game

[pure geyser]

I didnt really understand how and why Nyx left for example, like some stuff seems to have gone too fast is it not possible to have skipped entire stories just because it went too fast? like the fact that Hades isnt in the Houge of Hades anymore wont change anything?

[old bluff]

No

You can't miss story bits and both of them will come back

[stiff obsidian]

they leave and come back all of the time, it would be weird if they just stood in their spots forever yeah?

[pure geyser]

for Nyx yea, for Hades less so I guess... but do you confirm you can't "miss" any story bits like Edward77 said?

[stiff obsidian]

dont think you can, devs made sure of that

there might be a few exceptions but idt theres anything to worry about

[pure geyser]

okay good!

[junior lion]

update i did a run where all i tried to get is heart rooms and ended w 475 live including cerberus keepsake

i think if i get the aphrodite boon at the start to make hearts give more i woulda got at least 500

thanatos spawning also gives extra 25

and if i get high heat i can do the better inferno gates

also the dyonsis boon

[rustic vale]

This seems rather low for a run where you focused on it

[junior lion]

all i did was chose heart rooms whenever they were there instead of rerolling or the other room

i can also use aspect of arthur for extra 50

[rustic vale]

Ah ig then

[junior lion]

im gonna do a run where i actualluy try now

[stiff obsidian]

i get 400 hp sometimes at 50 heat

this is with ri1

[brisk trail]

Chat, I reached the end credits

Is there a point in playing now?

Is the story done?

[rustic vale]

Yes

[rustic vale]

No

You’d be missing out on the rest of Hades 21020 voice lines

There’s a full epilogue

[stiff obsidian]

you can finally start playing the game

[rustic vale]

the main story is like the tutorial

for Hades

[brisk trail]

How much % of the full story is up till the credits?

[old bluff]

Speedrun world record :)

[rustic vale]

wdym by full story

[brisk trail]

Is there any story beyond the credits?

[old bluff]

Yes

[brisk trail]

Yeah, so up until the credits is what % of the whole thing?

[neon tapir]

Yeah that's kinda hard to say exactly, but if you want a rough estimate, about 40%, maybe 60% by my high estimate

So around half probably

So no spoilers, but the game does have an epilogue, and it took me at around 100-hours of gameplay to finally reach, granted I wasn't aware of this until I found it myself, so it's not like I was trying to get it

[rustic vale]

Tbh like

40% is where I’d place it if I included all the non-main story npc dialogue you’ll run into

Although that’s dependent on how early you hit credits

[neon tapir]

Yeah I did consider that, but it is just my estimate, but I do agree, I'm leaning more towards 40% more tjan 60%

[neon tapir]

Ah yeah, I guess so

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/dionysus-hades-game-gif-4573968748495774914

[brisk trail]

How do I give people Ambrosia?

I've been talking to Meg forever

[mint coral]

For meg sadly her favor is just get certain dialogues

So gotta keep talking

Others have more specific favors like poseidon or ares

You can go to the character's wiki page to see what you need to do

[crystal star]

Ngl overall I enjoy hades 1 combat and mechanics and builds more than hades 2

Shut up sticky bot i know that

[old bluff]

stickybot is here to prevent people from posting about Hades 2 in this channel by staying at the bottom

[jagged hamlet]

StickyBot is the hero we need, but not the one we deserve

[stiff obsidian]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[old bluff]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[pure geyser]

why does everyone recommend that you give nectar to everyone first rather than maxing like meg? if you can only choose one keepsafe to use everytime why does it matter to have all of them asap?

[mint coral]

So you can swap to what you need during the run

[stiff obsidian]

i didnt recognize you for a min

[old bluff]

Same

[stiff obsidian]

tried charon again

single hit got me greater call

awesome

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217113690445185024/1272363614170513459/bonk.mp4?ex=66bab474&is=66b962f4&hm=588fc7d1c3564583211522d4b366ba8d3be78658c447c8d7201d32a3a42481c7&

[twin thistle]

That animation is perfect

[stiff obsidian]

yoo just did damageless charon fight until the end

[mint coral]

[stark bluff]

Magnet gloves + deflect on the special is crazy. Super punch to victory.

[unkempt kernel]

hey guys i have a question is there any behind the scenes for the vfx of the game?

i think i saw one for the fire in game but i cant find it on youtube

[mint coral]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4JEVov1tMlFThNYS92F8uC third video maybe?

I don't remember if it talks vfx too or just models tho

[unkempt kernel]

nvm i found it on twitter

[mint coral]

Ah nice

[glass roost]

is hades worth it

[void vigil]

its really fun and the story is enjoyable, so yes!

unless roguelites frustrate you, then you might not enjoy it

for what its worth, i turn away from them for the most part but still really enjoyed hades. i played for the story but just found the gameplay very fun

[main hemlock]

for a replay sure do whatever tho not sure why you would beeline to romance, but when you first start you really need to get a wide range of keepsakes to switch around during run

"keepsakes hold power" after all

[pure geyser]

damn i really don't see why i'd want to switch around too much but i guess i'll learn

also not talking about the romance bit ||but the legendary companions||

[main hemlock]

tartarus is ez you can get a rich start with hypnos wallet keepsakes, going to asphodel you might want to switch gears get and you take an olympians keepsake to get a build going and then switch to the 50+ heal one in elysium to get as reckless as you want

[main hemlock]

||eh, i don't think its worth it either way it will take alot of attempts to progress either way||

[latent hull]

hades 1 spanish please

[mint coral]

Is mainly god keepsakes then defense/utility

Like acorn or hourglass

And yeah while companions are def useful, building is a lot easier with multiple keepsakes

[main hemlock]

i have neglected the acorn, not sure how 3 or 4 hit being forgiven are that important

please enlighten me

[mint coral]

For dad in specific his weakest attack is for 20

If you only get hit by that at worst you match tooth's 100 hp

Anything else easily blocks for way more

[main hemlock]

lmao say either way twice, im so sleep deprived

[mint coral]

(adds are a complicated game but it usually evens out)

[mint coral]

If you block a hit during boiling blood is even better

Heroes is similar

If you don't need the safety that much you can also just use the 5 hits to dps

Cuz you don't get stunned

(acorn is 5 hits at 3*)

[main hemlock]

huh you got a point there but i imagine my first instants of damage forgiven would be something dumb like summoned witch hit or a chairot or something lol

[mint coral]

Yeah that can happen lol

The weakest point of acorn would be the em4 version of dad

But is also the strongest

[main hemlock]

does the acorn trigger revange damge?

[mint coral]

I don't think so?

[main hemlock]

intresting

[mint coral]

If you get B.balls or sneaks as the summons then chances are your acorn gets destroyed for nothing

But if you get any other you can kill them just fine and get the hits from dad

Em3 Theseus can also destroy acorn quick

But blocking asterius hits is so worth

Oh yeah it also works on multiple biomes

[main hemlock]

em3 champion quickly became from my least to one of my favorites boss fights, dodging asterius under all the pressure theseus puts on you feel so rewarding

[mint coral]

I only like the fight if I'm not playing melee

Beyblade wastes so much time

[main hemlock]

its not too bad going melee actually, specialy if you got revenge or a tanky set going

[mint coral]

Is more in timer speaking

[main hemlock]

oh absolutily

[mint coral]

Melee gets prohibited of any actual dmg during the spin

Also fo2 em3 asterius is a menace

Dude goes faaaaast

[main hemlock]

its honestly worth it for the comic relief even with the timer ticking

[mint coral]

At least it makes for funny dmg if you get a fast applying static discharge or cold fusion

[main hemlock]

going for 32 heat, any tips?

[mint coral]

Check bananas's guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies

Any tip I could give is pretty much there

[main hemlock]

wanted something personal but i guess theres nothing that have'nt been said before 😭

actually did 8 and 16 just today, seems like the logical step to go in while the iron is still hot

[mint coral]

Yeah 16 to 32 jumo ain't that bad

Maybe a few rounds of practice with stubborn or high timer/foes speed

I've seen people do the jump from 8

[main hemlock]

did 16 with stubborn too

actually

it was 2 birds one stone as half the mirror upgrades i hadnt escaped with and i wanted to complete the prophecy

totally out of my comfort zone for that run yet i still managed

[glass roost]

Whats better h1 or h2

[main hemlock]

i hadnt played that much h2 as im focusing on finnishing as much as i can in h1. but as gameplay loop i found h1 more relaxing and h2 more complex

[fervent radish]

i don't think static discharge triggers multiple times

it all counts as 1 attack afaik

yeah just confirmed in game

[mint coral]

Huh

Could sworn cold fusion did something funny during em3

[fervent radish]

maybe cold fusion, but vanilla jolted does no

not

[old bluff]

Yes

[pure geyser]

hey! why do ppl say you have to run at 0 heat to get more darkness?

[mint coral]

Run's easier more than anything

Heat doesn't increase darkness gathered

And if you use enough heat you might get the bounties from the bosses instead of darkness

That said, using the speedrun pact for faster runs will end up with overall more darkness gathered

[pure geyser]

bosses give darkness? 🥲

[mint coral]

When you kill a boss for the first time with a wep they drop their resource (blood/diamond/ambrosia/blood)
Killing them again makes them drop darkness

Climbing heat refreshes the special drop

[pure geyser]

ahh i didnt know ty

i'm still so early i have only run with fresh weps and aspects

[brisk trail]

Is it possible to get poseidons legendary fish boon as first boon

After the first time

[raw herald]

No

[stark bluff]

Magnet gloves and Athena deflect special with the 2hp healing hammer perk is a really good tank.

[iron epoch]

Experiencing Hades withdrawals (I haven't played it all day and I left my switch at home)

[viscid vortex]

got my buddy into Hades and he was streaming it for me. he hasn’t seen any Hades 2 content and is mostly unspoiled about the series and content. I said I liked Chaos’ design and he remarked that they looked like they could be a femboy lmao

[fervent radish]

it might keep jolted on theseus so each bomb triggers it

[fierce junco]

playing a lot more different varatha aspects and heavy testing varatha setups, i still think hades' is not the worst out of all the aspects, and possibly the best, or second at the very least

achilles' damage is great i will not lie, but landing it is the biggest pain in the ass

4 hits is brutal

[mint coral]

are you trying to use spins with it

[fierce junco]

yes, and recalling achilles' instead of dashing

[mint coral]

bruh

recalling doesn't give you the buff

[fierce junco]

i only get the 2 in because of the first hit needed to charge it so its brutal

[mint coral]

and spins are so so

unless you are using guan yu

[old bluff]

Have you tried flurry jab hammer on Achilles

[fierce junco]

i know, just saying im using it and nickel and dime-ing this poor spear

[fierce junco]

not yet

[old bluff]

That's what makes Achilles S tier

[mint coral]

and the cast dmg

[fierce junco]

yeahhhh

[fierce junco]

just seems situational now though

[stiff obsidian]

serrated too

[mint coral]

haste or swift strike

2nd hermes/both epic/zag bow

[old bluff]

Any RD's?

[stiff obsidian]

fluurry?

[mint coral]

the 3rd is favor

[mint coral]

perfect + triple

[old bluff]

Swift strike because funny

[stiff obsidian]

why not favor

[old bluff]

What call

[mint coral]

zeus

[stiff obsidian]

bruh

[twin thistle]

Epic Swift strike + pseudo tech @old bluff

[old bluff]

It might actually be favor ngl

[stiff obsidian]

why didnt you start with that 🗿

[twin thistle]

Idk why theres an @

[mint coral]

I never notice favor's charge rate lmfao

huh when did I take an extension

[stiff obsidian]

‼️

[mint coral]

aight yeah I'm not hating on epic favor anymore

[old bluff]

It's just Smair but worse

But bad Smair is still pretty good

[mint coral]

I love dying lament so much

let's go rod

no 2 sack tho

I should reinstall modded

[old bluff]

Why would you ever uninstall it?

[mint coral]

I did for fresh file iirc?

where sack bleh

[old bluff]

On Nexus mods

[mint coral]

there we go

4 sack

is the latest modpack in nexus or speedrun.com

[stiff obsidian]

lmao

[old bluff]

The newest version is in the H1-announcements channel in speedcord

[stiff obsidian]

im still on 1.3.0

[old bluff]

I was on 1.3.0 until I got a new computer and had to redownload the modpack lmao

[stiff obsidian]

literally me this weekend

upgrading from m1 mac air to m3 max mac pro

[mint coral]

is first boon epic also in speedcord

[stiff obsidian]

will be able to run obs

[old bluff]

No, but give me a sec

#1217113863137398815 message

[mint coral]

ty

[stiff obsidian]

finally joined 🙏

[mint coral]

epic swift with flurry

oh this is hilarious

[stiff obsidian]

sub2 tart is so hard

[old bluff]

On 50 heat, or in general?

[stiff obsidian]

50

should i start with rocket

my 2nd boon has been slicing shot for like 4 runs in a row

wtf

the true cursee of pain

[latent moon]

Are you starting delta

Idk maybe bc rocket is more damage esp with clockets

Is this also ap2

[stiff obsidian]

ap2 clockets

[latent moon]

Ah

Yeah just high roll lmao

[stiff obsidian]

i actually have an em4 savestate

ap2

[latent moon]

But also like

[stiff obsidian]

delta + clocket

anviled into clockets lol

[latent moon]

Rocket is more damage than delta

Delta just has more safety lmao

[stiff obsidian]

im trying to get sub2 tart - furies

but every run is like 2:06 2:07

with like 0 dmh so furies take like 20+ seconds

woah i just got c1 boon -> chaos -> hammer on ri1

smh 1:41 furies entrance -> die in first phase

[latent moon]

That's like fine

Just keep going on a run like that

[stiff obsidian]

3:15 lernie entrance

[latent moon]

It's not that much of a difference and you can make up that time later with skips or just good rooms

That's good

[stiff obsidian]

with 1 boon

[latent moon]

Oh

Where did they go lmao

[stiff obsidian]

not exactly 1 the rest are just kinda useless

[latent moon]

Oh fantastic

[stiff obsidian]

i usppose hypersprint helps but it doesnt give me dps

and trippy shot and urge to purge

[latent moon]

Tbf the lernie fight isn't the issue it's the fact that you're entering Ely with no damage lmao

If you get a c27 jolted then maybe but it's looking kinda doomed lmao

[stiff obsidian]

it kinda is bc ive been taking earring aspho with like

65 max hp

and dying

[latent moon]

Oh well don't die

Might help

[stiff obsidian]

ill try that next time

imgonna try

sub8

40 heat

ok i removed ap and ri and it just dropped to 40

😐

clockets time ig

[mint coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229078264811618305/1272738718167339102/image.png?ex=66bc11cc&is=66bac04c&hm=e1e128d3186d6600ed4a2fc879def5f78fd1d41012d43f21f07be4823e0d64bc& I love this game

[stiff obsidian]

not even closee

rocket sucks

speedrnning sucks

this game sucks im playingg something else

[mint coral]

piercing volley :P

METTLE

I win

y'know

after playing enough h2, ri1 doesn't feel as bad

[fervent radish]

So true bestie

[obsidian drum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248152852770066483/1272770538409820170/image.png

Ares: So you want my legendary boon? Oops.

[old bluff]

RR Hades spear is truly a choice of all time

[obsidian drum]

I tend to pick the weapons with less heat to try to get the legendary boons.

If I want to have more dificulty, I pick the ones with more heat.

[stiff obsidian]

he means the ruthless reflex mirror option, generally the extra dash is preferred

also not sure about this but i dont think the keepsake affects duo / legendary odds but i may be wrong

[obsidian drum]

I'm missing one of Ares and one of Hermes, but I'm doing them to get an archivement

[old bluff]

I think the problem is that you have Fated Authority and not Persuasion

[twin thistle]

And no darkforesight

[old bluff]

And no deep pockets for early boons :(

[twin thistle]

Tho tbh thats an impressive amount of ares for no df

[lavish sorrel]

Shallow pockets 😔

[pliant blaze]

i swear theres a code that makes charon's shop never give you health when you low health

[lunar mirage]

Zeus favor is killing me

up to like 30 runs of just equipping his keepsake then talking to different gods each time

literally won't trigger

[brisk trail]

Are the hades and Persephone boons included for the boons achievement? I max ranked all the other ones and I didn’t get it

[mint coral]

Do you mean keepsakes?

[brisk trail]

Ya my bad

[mint coral]

I think of them does?

*one of them

[brisk trail]

That makes sense now that I think about it, probably Persephone

[brisk trail]

Chat, my friend is crazy

He just called bull rush better than aspect iof zeus

Who is right?

[rustic vale]

Aspect of zeus has the bull rush

wdym one’s better than the other

Zeus can do both at the same time

[brisk trail]

I mean

He would rather keep using bull rush than focus on using blitz disc

[rustic vale]

~

if you’re using zeus you’re often better off focusing on the special but

You can always just use it like some free extra damage by throwing it wherever and rushing

[latent moon]

Tell him the blitz disk is the reason why it's good lmao otherwise it's just bad zag shield

On the other hand chaos special is useless lmao

Bltiz disk carry to 64

[rustic vale]

mfw when the aspects bonus actually is the reason you’d use it

[brisk trail]

Bull rush is so pointless imo

Deals negligible damage

[rustic vale]

it kind of needs charge shot to deal good damage

Although you can use it for movement

[brisk trail]

You're better off spamming regular ol' attacks

[rustic vale]

charge shot does definitely bring the dps of your shield higher than regular attacks

but otherwise

idk

although

wave dashing exists

or whatever they’re calling it

[jagged hamlet]

W-wha Bull Rush is fine damage, especially given its utility as very safe movement and given it also does wiiiide AOE

[latent moon]

It's mostly for movement, safety, and grouping

On Zeus shield at least

The standard combo is to toss the disk, dash strike backwards, bull rush in and recall at the same time

[rustic vale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1226642940764487690/1271639943566852138/Hades_2024-08-09_18-18-23_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66bcafbc&is=66bb5e3c&hm=cc8b2f853df84a2d126011f11fe1f9c8bf6223c27a8fd35fdd46ffc6f4bdb331&

big movement

[jagged hamlet]

New Shackle video!

[brisk trail]

IS THAT A MFING CELESTE REFERENCE!11!!1!1!111!11!!

[rustic vale]

nuh uh

I stole it from

False Side I think?

My wifi sucks too bad to search it

Just look up lvl 99 pro scooter

[brisk trail]

I would rather just use hermes boons to become fast and dash more

[rustic vale]

or just pro scooter

[latent moon]

Oh also bull rush is incredibly important on Zeus shield to the point where charged shot is a run ending hammer at high heat

[brisk trail]

Charged dash is wasteful

[rustic vale]

you need it for movement atp

[latent moon]

And safety

Safety and damage goes hard

[latent moon]

You can't always get that every run

[brisk trail]

I always get Hermes boons

[latent moon]

Bull rushing is part of what makes zeus good at high heat

[latent moon]

You can't always get more dashes or hyper sprint

Hermes is guaranteed

[brisk trail]

Hermes, I said "Hermes"

[brisk trail]

Even just base movement speed is good enough

[latent moon]

Not really lmao

It's largely negligible

That doesn't give you nearly the same movement as good bull rushing

Or safety for that matter

[twin thistle]

Hey thats me

Bullrushing has iframes and smacks stuff, walking dont

[jagged hamlet]

All this Bull Rush slander

[old bluff]

Any scooters?

[fervent radish]

I will not stand for the bull rush slander

Pure iframes

You’re untouchable during it, while doing damage, and you can precisely target its length and direction

And it triggers ER if you rush through the shield

Bull rush is broken asf

[old bluff]

Cshot better ngl

[fervent radish]

💀

No iframes

[stiff obsidian]

Imagine needing iframes?

Just be gooder

[mint coral]

Just roll purple dashes everytime

[latent moon]

Just don't die

[fervent radish]

Dashes ruins my runs

All my homies (me) hate dashes

[mint coral]

That's some muscle memory

[old bluff]

Spot the Zeus player

[fervent radish]

Yeah

I roll away/sell dashes

Best boon from Hermes is flurry cast fr

[stiff obsidian]

😔😔😔

[old bluff]

I only play beo, what is this boon you speak of?

[pliant blaze]

vote, deathly or cthonic decorative theme?

[lunar mirage]

Anyone have any tips for Zeus favor? I'm at like 40 runs of simply equipping his keepsake then cycling thru all the gods. (equipping different keepsake at each floor to force different gods)
All gods are now saying their generic words of encouragement, nothing about having Zeus's blessing

I completed the epilogue before getting his favor. I heard that may lock you out. Has that been fixed?

[rustic vale]

It shouldn’t lock you out

although

I’ve never heard of someone being locked out of Zeus favour in like 3 years here

[lunar mirage]

It's a shame cause I enjoyed the rest of the RNG and such but I don't know how much longer I can do this 😂 😂

[rustic vale]

Could always be the dude who played for 3 months b4 he got gilgamesh

after hitting the prerequisites

[fresh harbor]

Grinding all keepsakes to max for the trophy is brutalll

[fervent radish]

it's rough yeah

esp when some of them are useless

[old bluff]

Aren't Styx strats meta

[fervent radish]

yeah

i wasn't sure if it worked since it's been a while

basically do a normal easy run

and then take the keepsake through styx

[obsidian drum]

Finally got Ares's legendary, time to get Hermes's

[old bluff]

Hermes has two

[woeful trout]

I was gonna ask which one then realized how many are terrible

[fervent radish]

Yeah

I’d say about as many are useful as are useless

[fervent radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/808369939744292866/1273121131292921916/image.png?ex=66bd75f3&is=66bc2473&hm=25b56602d727b79dd3e85812b7d45c3d742a0e54d42b24b1396c66562a27cd6d&

[old bluff]

Best girl Arty should be in S, I won't stand for this slander

On a more serious note, Plume should be in at least B tier

[fervent radish]

i rarely use plume

but fair enough to both yea

i made this in a minute or so

[woeful trout]

Am I tripping or is hourglass not here

[old bluff]

LMAO

(It's in S btw)

[old bluff]

Also, shoutouts to Butterfly for being the biggest new player trap in the whole game

[fervent radish]

oh man you're right

yeah hourglass A/S

also winter horn isn't there eithrt

[woeful trout]

oh hourglass is that good?

[fervent radish]

yep

[woeful trout]

i mean i like the thing and i think its at least above average

[fervent radish]

better for speed than heat

[woeful trout]

what makes it that good

obv charon well items are kinda busted when they last forever

[fervent radish]

edward is talking mostly from the perspective of beowulf

[woeful trout]

but is there like any specific item that makes it good

[twin thistle]

Its busted with braids and stones for extra cast damage and casts

[old bluff]

Unless you are poshboy

[fervent radish]

true

[latent moon]

it's good on cast based aspects mainly since they have 2 items in the well that give it a lot of scaling

3 if you have rush delivery, kinda 3.5 if you're using beowulf since you can grab an attack jerky too

but also why are the god keepsakes ranked differently lmao isn't it just build dependent

[obsidian drum]

Why skelly is on B? It has saved me a lot, it should be on A

[old bluff]

Acorn is usually just better than it

[twin thistle]

Its good for mitigating skill issue in high heat aspho until need to take earring for pace

[woeful trout]

Asphodel lava with HS > every boss in the game

[latent moon]

because acorn is better than tooth in almost every circumstance lmao

there's only 2 times you'd take tooth and that's into asphodel if you're worried about dying to lernie or if you dont want to take acorn into em4 bc acorn would get shredded by bad summons

but people take acorn into em4 anyways lmao

so really only 1

[narrow loom]

dio call is so busted

especially with eris

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265842500434792459/1273160825556959282/image.png?ex=66bd9aea&is=66bc496a&hm=b188f98a8cb22c57e7649cd7938d1195b1c77578e12c4a895ebef6957940eee1&

only one left is the companion one. I have all except achilles. The achilles x patroclus one was also my last one

that one took ages to get too

achilles is always getting in my way 😔

[rustic vale]

Braids, stones, and ichors(if you have rush delivery). Aka extra cast damage, extra casts, and extra movespeed to boost your movespeed multiplicatively and skyrocket your rush delivery bonus

[rustic vale]

I mean dem would def be at least a tier or two below the rest but aside from her I’d put them all in S

[stiff obsidian]

Tooth Ely actually

Since the rooms are worse than the boss

But em3 without patty kind of annoying

[fervent radish]

Preference tbh. Some work in most/all builds while some you’d only take for some builds

This was mostly to divide the top and bottom halves

[stiff obsidian]

Im starting to believe in acorn tart

And just keep it the whole run

[fervent radish]

Tf

[vapid tapir]

i havent played hades in a long time but i picked it up today and beat both charon and em4 dad first try :]

[stone basin]

I have onions in my codex but i dont know how they even got there or how i got them

does anyone know what it means?

[mint coral]

Erebus gates

[stone basin]

ahh

if you fail

[mint coral]

Being hit during one gives you an onion

[stone basin]

another question

how rare is a 'rare' fish

[mint coral]

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish

Bottom part for what you need

They are more common than common fish technically

[stone basin]

ty

[lavish sorrel]

There's also a handy audio cue

[rare star]

How much content is there after beating hades like 3 times bc i cant find motivation to play

[old bluff]

First ten wins are like the tutorial tbh

[lavish sorrel]

First win is approximately 1% the content one could experience. One can play for 3000 hours and still come up with things to do.

[rare star]

Yeah but you unlock the entire mirror and the weapon titan blood upgrades dont rlly do sh*t to add to the game (Mb idk if i can swear in here)

and thats all at the first win

[lavish sorrel]

There's always getting better at the game

Pushing your scores (time or heat) for each aspect

[old bluff]

Also, Mirror and wepaon upgrades are insane wdym

[rare star]

bro

mirror upgrades

[lavish sorrel]

Or attempting challenge-runs such as beating the game in as few runs as possible, which as my nickname for this server suggests is what I like to do.

[rare star]

you unlock em all super quick

i have all maxed

except

the uhhh

like rarity %

Idk if im allowed to ask this in here bc technically its hades 2, but comparing 1 to 2, if i were to buy 2 do you think there would be like more content before the point where im j shooting for higher scores

[lavish sorrel]

The two have about equal content (gameplay-wise) but hades 2 is less finished so I don't think a comparison can be drawn yet. Also hades 2's story is far from done, with hades 1 having more of that.

(Demeter actually becomes a possible god after fighting dad for the first time, regardless of the outcome of that fight)

There are 8 main gods to receive boons from in Hades 1, + hermes, + chaos.

Reformulate the question, I'm not sure I understand

Wins do not affect the amount of possible gods

[fervent radish]

The base weapons don’t change a whole lot but when you unlock different aspects, each has a ton of depth

There’s basically 24 different games to play

[lavish sorrel]

You're wrong, what can I say lmao

You either forgot about the first demeter boon you collected, or you beat the final boss first try after entering his arena

[lavish sorrel]

Yes, that is exactly what I said here, if you recall.

[latent moon]

they're all usable it's just that most of them aren't meta lmao

[lavish sorrel]

[latent moon]

some people have hundreds of hours in the game while not being aware of the meta and still having fun with the "bad aspects"

or they are aware of the meta aspects and still choose to play the "bad aspects"

[old bluff]

(Like Chiron)

[fervent radish]

Not knowing how to play an aspect == the aspect sucking

Tf

Right

[latent moon]

for fun? if you don't like certain aspects then you dont have to play them, i certainly dont

[fervent radish]

If you think the game is boring, it seems like you’re looking for an excuse to stop playing

There’s depth if you challenge yourself idk

[latent moon]

then play spear fists and rail

well the story

if you want to finish that

[old bluff]

The quests?

[latent moon]

character bonds

[fervent radish]

So as far as gameplay goes, you’re supposed to clear many times

That’s the content

[latent moon]

it's a story based game so you're unlocking more story i guess lmao

[old bluff]

It do be a Rougelike

[latent moon]

the game won an award for the story

[fervent radish]

Every run is different, with different gods, boons, rooms, etc

[latent moon]

first video game to do so

[fervent radish]

Different difficulties that you can choose

[old bluff]

Should have won GOTY ngl

[latent moon]

so true bestie

[fervent radish]

and I’m sure literally anything can be fun

I don’t see your point

[latent moon]

well that's just how the genre works

rogue lites/likes are all similar in that way

have fun with that lmao

[fervent radish]

Best of luck

[old bluff]

I love terrible analogies

[lavish sorrel]

If you're not having fun with an aspect you probably just haven't looked for the rhythm of the aspect yet. I, bananas, dragon and edward have all spent several hundreds of hours into learning every aspect's groove. Every aspect in this game is a rhythm game.

Frick I'm late

[latent moon]

If you don't like the game you're not obligated to play it lmao

[fervent radish]

The content is the replayable runs that are different every time

[lavish sorrel]

Don't bash on the people that do

[latent moon]

Also angel has 3.5k hours in the game and just discovered something new today

So like

Do whatever you want

[fervent radish]

Oh I see

[lavish sorrel]

Welcome to the roguelike genre

[latent moon]

If you don't like the game then don't play it idk what to tell you we've been giving you reasons to play the game but you're giving reasons why you dont want to

[fervent radish]

You don’t have to restart

[latent moon]

So like

[old bluff]

It's a rouge like, that's the entire point of the game

[latent moon]

What do you want us to do lmao

[fervent radish]

You can use the same save file, but start another run

[latent moon]

Asking for reasons to keep playing the game?

We gave them and you don't like them lmao

Yeah and we gave responses

[old bluff]

Then maybe don't be purposely inflammatory?

[fervent radish]

I think you might misunderstand what we mean by restart

You can start another run on the same save file and progress that save file

[latent moon]

I don't have any issues frankly

[fervent radish]

Have you tried the pact of punishment?

It’s the screen that opens when you try to start a run

[old bluff]

It is the pop up you get when you try to start a run

[fervent radish]

What have you done with it so far

No, I’m just asking what you’ve done with it so far

Oh either I guess

So the game goes up to 64, that’s a bunch of ways the game changes based on the difficulty you input

I would say every 5-7 heat you add on changes the game significantly enough to be a completely different run

Which is where the vast majority of the content in the game is

If you’ve only attempted 20 a few times, you’re not really in a position to speak on how much content/variety the game has.

We’re telling you the pact is one source of a lot of content

If you don’t find that sort of variety interesting, you might just not be interested in the game, which is fine

What do you like in games?

[old bluff]

We also mentioned the incredible story and side quests

[latent moon]

We have hundreds of hours bc we like the gameplay which you don't like lmao

[fervent radish]

As far as aspects go, I only really play 2, and still don’t feel like I’ve expended all of the depth available for those two

So if you start pushing your runs to be faster and more difficult with the pact, I think you’ll see the different strengths of the aspects and the need to use the whole kit

[rustic vale]

If all you’re doing is using one weapon and spamming it’s special you’re cutting yourself out of like 23 other aspects in game

to work with

a lot of content comes from how you can mix and mash your pact to completely change the feel of your run, and at the same time how you build your weapon

something like a merciful End build has a way different game feel compared to like a crit focused build or

crush shot hera versus trippy flare hera

and you can just keep playing runs with what you experiment and find

I even know some people that have the most fun when they have the least control over their build, purposefully running approval process 2 to limit their boon options from 3 -> 1

[twin thistle]

The mental ward people

[fervent radish]

What specifically are you looking for anyways?

[narrow loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265842500434792459/1273366326832009246/image.png?ex=66be5a4e&is=66bd08ce&hm=b8197c6ad8493a5cf702ecd70587cc62202eb6dd5869ae6286f587fb5884fd57&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265842500434792459/1273366456972607579/image.png?ex=66be5a6d&is=66bd08ed&hm=fb003aa523ae80119ce19599172462caa5c7c59baab361fc134179e8a34ef182&

GG

Finally did it

[fervent radish]

builds can still function differently based on what combination of boons you get

[narrow loom]

hmm i'm confused

there are like 24 aspects that all play really differently for the most part

and hundreds of boon combos with each aspect

[fervent radish]

Do you enjoy league?

[narrow loom]

😭

ok dude

I guess damaging opponents is all the same

since they all get hit with something

that takes their hp away

[fervent radish]

So, what you're saying to us would probably sound weird if it was applied to league. Imagine if I said that there's a finite number of items you can get in a game, and each of the items will give you the same thing each game, and there's a finite number of champ combos that can appear in a game.

That doesn't mean that there's no depth

not necessarily. global damage boosts are more viable when you have a lot of flat damage sources versus having a crit focused built

And some boons might not be desirable compared to others depending on what part of the aspect's kit you're primarily using or what other boons you already have

lmao

If damage isn't an issue, you're probably playing it on an easier difficulty than you could be

[narrow loom]

yeah you're dense in the sense that you weigh 500 pounds

[fervent radish]

no, you can do 40 with whatever you want

wdym

[narrow loom]

bro's gonna send me a shattered scale

[jagged hamlet]

I feel like I'm pretty dense. I can't float well in the pool

[fervent radish]

you can do 60 or so with a non meta build if you're good enough

that's completely false

not at all

[twin thistle]

Bruh moment

[jagged hamlet]

I wish jazz was here

[twin thistle]

Me losing over 2k health every 40 heat run

[narrow loom]

so now you're making up weird domination scenarios

I sense insecurity...

[fervent radish]

You can get hit a few times each room and comfortably clear

[old bluff]

So true bestie

[jagged hamlet]

Hehe seems like a troll

[fervent radish]

wdym

get better?

[narrow loom]

for the record.. you insulted me first

[twin thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1226642940764487690/1252804357032902686/Screenshot_285.png?ex=66be093a&is=66bcb7ba&hm=40fbf9b5cc8f9baab5cb002c873c988fe8f1127ebd836c057b9f21871e72b996& behold the ultimate meta zag spear build

[narrow loom]

😁

[fervent radish]

if you have trouble with taking too much damage, you can turn on god mode for damage reduction

[narrow loom]

dude you're a dude with that pfp calling other people no lives

that pfp reeks of smelly gooner

[fervent radish]

<@&456908176877551658>

🗿

yeah go back to playing league lmao

[narrow loom]

🤷

[lavish sorrel]

Yeet the troll

No

[narrow loom]

hey that's not nice.

[lavish sorrel]

I meant to the convo, you said you were leaving

[narrow loom]

you're using it in a derogatory manner

as an insult

[lavish sorrel]

Anyways AD press the red button

[void vigil]

aight bye

[narrow loom]

lel

[lavish sorrel]

[void vigil]

thanks for letting me know

[narrow loom]

Thank you AD

[jagged hamlet]

Hooray for AD!

[narrow loom]

Anyway

[old bluff]

AD is the GOAT

[narrow loom]

back to a REAL hades 1 discussion

I just unlocked every single companion like 2 seconds ago

which one is your favorite

and/or the best

[old bluff]

Meg

[rustic vale]

oh chat got nuked

That’s why so many messages were deleted

[fervent radish]

nothing of value was lost

[narrow loom]

I have just been spamming meg but

I feel like there could be others of value

[rustic vale]

Now that you have all the companions you can keep doing that

[void vigil]

but also i want to say that even if someone is acting in an inflammatory manner, dont engage and definitely dont insult back - just ping mods

[jagged hamlet]

It was all pretty rude! Meg's Battie is generally the best

[narrow loom]

Lol

[void vigil]

i like shady for the darkness and healing

[rustic vale]

Shady has use when you’re darkness farming or trying January’s monthly challenge from 2022

Or 2023

[narrow loom]

yeah that seems nice I was considering it

[fervent radish]

healing 🗿

[void vigil]

but i like antos as well because i think its funny when it kills the last target and has nothing else to hit, so it targets zag

average LC4 enjoyer

[narrow loom]

antos sounds nice

because sometimes I don't aim right in the styx tunnels with the minibosses

[fervent radish]

most of the pact is just default experience by now

healing catches me off guard

[old bluff]

All are fine, but Meg just has the easiest setups

[rustic vale]

meg also just has easiest value

Big damage aoe with no wait time

Antos has damage and speed but no aoe.
Than has damage and aoe but no speed

[lavish sorrel]

Skelly has no damage but n/a aoe and n/a speed

[narrow loom]

hmm antos sounds like the best then because I usually just use them for quick damage against 1 target anyway

like a boss or miniboss

not really looking for aoe

but meg does more too

[rustic vale]

eh meg is typically better since most bosses or minibosses had ads

that antos will target

Or witches

Meg can hit all the witches and antos can only hit 2

[narrow loom]

yeah I am thinking abt that rn

predicting a future where I use antos and he targets the minion rather than the main boss

and I will be fuming

[rustic vale]

You might as well try them all out just to fill out your codex

[narrow loom]

true

I got everything so late lol I didn't bother gifting anyone until I realized it was necessary for progression

[rustic vale]

[narrow loom]

I only gifted to get the initial keepsake

I am making the same mistake in h2

because I am in ration survival mode with my nectar

in h1 I have so much nectar stockpiled I can basically never run out

but in h2 I have barely any and I am "saving" it

[hollow granite]

Hello. I just got my first 5 titan bloods. I was wondering what i should spend them on

[old bluff]

What's been your favorite weapon so far?

[fervent radish]

you should spend them on shield of aegis aspect of zeus :croven:

[mint coral]

Unlock chiron

[old bluff]

Some new player favorites are often Nem for Sword, Achilles for Spear, Zeus for Shield, Chiron for Bow, Demeter for Fists, and Eris for Rail

[fervent radish]

New people really like chaos for some reason

[narrow loom]

I wish the devs would come back to hades 1 a little bit

not any story updates I think that would be unnecessary and might ruin things

but like perhaps some minor patches and balance changes

like for example I kinda think maim sucks

apply it on a boss and get hit, boom half your hp gone

[mint coral]

Update that just fixes mirage shot lmfao

[old bluff]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

My baby :(

[mint coral]

Patch notes
-Hell mode removed
Personal liability is now a regular pact

[hollow granite]

Idk what any of that means. Those are god names next to weapon names?

[jagged hamlet]

They're alternate versions of the various weapons

[mint coral]

Do you have aspects unlocked yet

Or do you only have the 5 blood

[hollow granite]

Ah i see the aspects now

What's a good weapon for pushing? Like is it just any weapon i want? The spear is fantastic

[mint coral]

The ideal is max one aspect, take all the blood you can with it then repeat

At higher lvl of plays there are weapons that are better but you can win with anything for a long while

[hollow granite]

I see

[mint coral]

If you like spear the usual rec is achilles

Just keep in mind that a spear that rolled the right hammers vs the ones that don't is pretty big

And while the same does apply to the others, spear feels weaker w/o them

[wicked veldt]

i'd recommend nem sword if you're just starting out

that's what carried me back when i was a beginner

or chiron bow too works well

if you're a spear main then achilles, but yeah the spear is hammer reliant more than boons itself

[wicked veldt]

they just fix the beo and mirage shot bug and that's the last thing they'll do

[hollow granite]

I just unlocked bounties. Is there any benefit to turning up the heat, other than bounties? Such as additional currency rewards?

[unreal mason]

nope

Only for the fun of it.

[hollow granite]

Darkness, Pitch Black (House Contractor) says that it increases your max life by 5, everytime you claim Darkness. Is that permanent; outside of the current run?

[tepid light]

No, otherwise you would be entering runs with 5 billion hp before long

It's just for that run

[hollow granite]

Aw okay. Unlimited power does sound nice. But i get it

[tepid light]

It's still useful nevertheless imo, means getting darkness is useful during the run itself, and max hp is always nice

[hollow granite]

I don't know what to use Darkness on, anymore. All my mirror stuff is capped except for the last 30key bit. Am I missing a way to spend it?

[tepid light]

Once the mirror's fully upgraded, that's basically all of the stuff that actually benefits you during runs

You can spend resources on getting new titles, but that's purely cosmetic

You could also visit the dealer to swap resources if you need different types of resources for something else

[hollow granite]

He doesn't want darkness ): sometimes there's a special deal that takes darkness though. I'll save some for that

[tepid light]

Yeah, the dealer is like that

[fluid gazelle]

Finally got Family Reunited!

I gotta say, it takes waaayyy too many runs to reach that point. But I'm glad I finally saw it!

I AM talking about the first game, silly bot :p

[tepid light]

Don't mind the bot, it just does that constantly

But, congrats!

[mint coral]

Tbf is like, the weakest of the 4 perma upgrades

[tepid light]

Even so

[sterile crystal]

Bout to fight the final boss for the first time at ||heat 8|| (not sure if that is classified as a spoiler)

I'm talking bout the first game go away stupid robot

HE WAS ONE HIT NO

[hollow swan]

Do u guys have god mode turned on bc I can’t really get far

I mean I can get to hades but that’s pretty much it I’ve gotten to Persephone a few times but yeah I’m just struggling a little

[fervent radish]

What do you mean

If you’ve gotten to Persephone then you’ve cleared the main story

Oh wait, sorry

[hollow swan]

But no I want to complete the main story

[fervent radish]

If you’ve cleared hades a few times, that’s a normal rate of progress

[hollow swan]

But not in a row

[fervent radish]

That’s fine

[hollow swan]

I’ve done like 60 runs

Is that bad

[fervent radish]

Nah

About average

Game can be tough

[hollow swan]

Oh yay

Yeah

God I hate Theseus

[fervent radish]

Yeah I wouldn’t worry about how long it’s taking you to clear as long as you’re having fun

Real

[hollow swan]

I’m having a lot of fun

Bruh

[fervent radish]

It’s an automatic bot, you can ignore it

[fervent radish]

Then take as long as you want and have a good time