#h1-discussion

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tepid plover
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but the arrows land

rustic vale
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My 3 special arrows land compared to how many were landing when I had 9

crystal island
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Just shotgun them at that point

tepid plover
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youre the one complainig about surviving, i assume you dont wanna shotgun

rustic vale
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You can absolutely survive with a lvl1-3 chiron

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It’s just

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you’re kinda missing all your damage bouldy

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I’d be tempted to say “if using your strike will be better dps why even touch it” but then remembered level 5 chiron doesn’t fix that

jagged hamlet
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Low level Chiron isn't too bad if you ignore Curse of Nausea, right? Just gotta get to 5 stacks of Hangover and maintain them

rustic vale
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yeah, it’s just rough

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At least at lvl1 you hardly even notice the difference in bolts for zeus special

rustic vale
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also like mega value down from chaos

crystal island
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Nerd Dio will NOT give me their special

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Should I just take Demeter since he's being real stubborn for the time being

tepid plover
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perhaps

rustic vale
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Yeah just pivot to +% special ig

crystal island
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I used up all of my dice

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Trying to get him

jagged hamlet
rustic vale
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how far into the run

fervent radish
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just...don't play chiron as chiron

crystal island
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At least I have his call????

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Still in tartarus

fervent radish
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dio call is really good

rustic vale
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dio call is rlly solid

crystal island
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It is

tepid plover
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wait you already have hangover

fervent radish
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find some soup and just do a call build tbh

crystal island
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Pfft

old bluff
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The fact that the best way to play Chiron is like crappy zag bow will never not be funny to me

rustic vale
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Yeah just take a +% goddes for your special

fervent radish
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yeah you don't want multiple sources of hangover

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tidal dash

crystal island
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Demeter it is
Time to find athena and zeus for call now

jagged hamlet
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You might not want another source of Hangover: new applications of Hangover (even from weaker sources) overrides the damage applied by each tick of Hangover

fervent radish
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dio call doesn't really need smair, since it charges itself

tepid plover
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thats why dio dash sucks

crystal island
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Demeter is a rat bastard she gave me not one but 2 BOONS FOR CAST

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I'll just take crystal beam to sell it later

rustic vale
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Chat wouldn’t it be so cool if zag sword just

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gave special speed too

old bluff
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Rav will and snurst are good

rustic vale
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while it was at it

tepid plover
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no

rustic vale
crystal island
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No rav
Although I could take burst

rustic vale
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Zag sword would be way more rad if it made my special faster

crystal island
rustic vale
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real zag sword should just have game speed multiplied by 1.15

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Everything

old bluff
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If it was like 30% it would be good, but 15% is too low

rustic vale
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going on

jagged hamlet
tepid plover
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lmfao, thatd be hilarious

mint coral
rustic vale
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I’m

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yes

crystal island
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I'm doing extreme measures 4 for 10 heat
This is gonna be fun

rustic vale
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I’m really feeling like a shackle sword build that relied on the special

tepid plover
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gl

rustic vale
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would be fun af given I have a rad time in tart with special

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But it feels like it falls of

crystal island
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Because bosses are easy and rooms are not

tepid plover
rustic vale
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Slippery flourish

tepid plover
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non em4 fight is awful boring imo

jagged hamlet
rustic vale
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Oh come on

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The one run where I had like

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“A solid special build” when it’s literally just dem dash and a purple chaos flourish nvrmind

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anyways dedge was offered with flurry and world so dedge it is

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Oh my

crystal island
rustic vale
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47/155 hp. 46 hp for 62 obols is a steal

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wait it’s c10 bouldy

jagged hamlet
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I'll be so happy if someone understands my clever reference

tepid plover
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thats what kinda bummed out of h2, bosses are a joke

crystal island
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oh
I think I get it

rustic vale
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Special focused did not work out

tepid plover
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not so special uh

rustic vale
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Yet.

crystal island
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EXCLUSIVE ACCESS
WOOOOOOOO
FINALLY IT POPPED UP
IN ASPHODEL BUT STILL

rustic vale
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In asphodel is plenty early

mint coral
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As long as before hermes

rustic vale
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I’ve had my fair share of exclusive access as final boon before Hades

tepid plover
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xd

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i had it in tartarus once, good stuff

mint coral
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That just curses the worst hermes known to mankind

crystal island
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it was right after 2 hermes boons
I now have common hyper delivery ☠️

mint coral
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Hyper delivery is still hyper delivery at least

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Just route a hundred ichors

tepid plover
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also, wtf is hyper delivery, isnt it rush delivery

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or is this that mandela effect or w.e

rustic vale
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Hyper delivery is sprint and rush

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together

tepid plover
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oh i see

crystal island
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purging pool + hermes

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gg

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now I have epic

mint coral
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Don't do it

crystal island
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...

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or not

mint coral
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There's only 2 hermes in the run

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And the 50/50 at styx for a 3rd

crystal island
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greater evasion + second win ☠️

jagged hamlet
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Hermes is precious, and he must be conserved

crystal island
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oh well I'm running call anyway

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PFFT I JUST FINISHED HIS PROPHECY

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relentless + concentrated
This is the run

dusty charm
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I got slippery eclipse and oceans bounty both epic at the start of the run. The gods smiles upon me.

jagged hamlet
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Aha! That's why you couldn't get Dio's Special: you were meant to get a high % Special to go with Relentless + Concentrated

crystal island
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trust

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I JUST MELTED CHARON

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WTF

tepid plover
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chiron ftw

crystal island
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1024 DAMAGE PER VOLLEY

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and a fishing spot

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hg

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gg

mint coral
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Praying that you get epic swift flourish at styx now

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It allows the conc dmg to stack between volleys zaglol

crystal island
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true

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OH

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CHIRON OP

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ASTERIUS IN 15 SECONDS

old bluff
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Sadly, Chiron not OP zagsad

crystal island
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dyno not meta

tepid plover
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dont trust the non believers

jagged hamlet
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Y'know, Chiron might not be meta, but darn if Relentless + Concentrated + a good % buff doesn't feel satisfying anyway

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😌

old bluff
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Trust the expert

rustic vale
tepid plover
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yeah, me

rustic vale
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Even if your dps sucks, or you have no aoe, and you’re just so darn slow

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killing things in one big burst of big number

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is big brain chemicals

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when I said dot I meant dps

crystal island
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EZ

old bluff
jagged hamlet
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I always like to compare playing Arthur to hitting stuff with a baseball bat

crystal island
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THESEUS IN UNDER 1 MIN

rustic vale
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Δenemy hp
ΔΤιme

crystal island
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i hate tiny vermin
i hate tiny vermin
i hate tiny vermin

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lost 2 death defiances to it

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also regained hyper delivery 😎

jagged hamlet
crystal island
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Hades was too ez
Only lost one death defiance (I survived with less than 20 hp)

tall holly
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what conditions do yall suggest for 16 heat? i'm planning to use trippy or crush beo

old bluff
tall holly
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got a specific setup for that or just improvise along the way

jagged hamlet
twin thistle
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You just take flood flare, artemis core (preferably deadly strike), and roll for the duo, other than that its just extra

tall holly
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aight thank you

tall holly
fervent radish
old bluff
fervent radish
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Truly

queen monolith
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uwu meg used her whip i see 😳

obsidian drum
old bluff
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Hera is legit the second fastest weapon in the game

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If you know how to play it

obsidian drum
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how.jpg

rustic vale
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If you can’t play bow then like

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fr you should be sad

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You’re missing out

jagged hamlet
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It's a tactical Cast launcher

old bluff
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Here guide

rustic vale
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It’s like zag bow but swap crit for huge base damage that scales off cast +%

mint coral
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Isn't that guide outdated

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Or did croven update it at some point

rustic vale
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I believe it still is

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haven’t checked in a while

obsidian drum
rustic vale
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Even outdated it still works

tall holly
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i almost got 16 heat on beo but i threw on em3 and didnt have a dd for dad

old bluff
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It is still really good for new Hera players, as that was the guide that helped me get my Hera sub 6

mint coral
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I think the main difference is how quick he clicks snow burst anyways

alpine wraith
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so i'm trying to raise affinity with the olympians but the last heart for all of them is locked. anyone know why?

rustic vale
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To unlock any npc’s locked heart you need to complete their favour

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A character specific requirement

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They’re mostly accurately listed on the wiki iirc

alpine wraith
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hmm

brisk trail
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What is something you should know or do as an intermediate player?

rustic vale
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Goodness my internet is making responding to anything unbearable atm

rustic vale
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You don’t take something just to have it. You take it with a purpose

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be that “I need something for uc fodder, and this would be a pretty decent amount of obols”, “I’m not taking that because it’ll open duos I don’t want”, “I’m going to take premium vintage over these other options because one is a core I don’t want and the other is a pommable boon that doesn’t do much aside from mucking up my leveling options”

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And you may have to spend a bit of time here to figure out what’s actually good or not because a few boons seem good but just aren’t and others don’t see great but they’re stellar af

rich fjord
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how's charged shot on beowulf?\

jagged hamlet
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Fantastic

latent moon
rustic vale
rich fjord
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cool

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which tier 2 for poseidon's knockback boons are the strongest?

rustic vale
rich fjord
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no razor shoals?

rustic vale
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I think I’d take purple shoals over breaking wave but wave over any other shoals

rich fjord
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okok nice

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thats exactly what i did

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purple shoals > common waves

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i also got a question abt rush delivery

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if i have hyper delivery and i dash before i start charging my shiled bash for example

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will the ms carry over while i charge

rustic vale
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If you have charged shot you can release whenever for max damage though, then you dash immediately after to guarantee the bonus on your casts

rich fjord
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ohhh dashing after works too

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thats sick

rustic vale
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Well yeah you notice how the casts take a little delay?

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Perfect time to dash out

rich fjord
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LMAO melted with 6 casts and mirage shot

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beowilf is funny

restive thunder
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Hermes has dialogue for if you equip a god boon and run into him first, this game never ceases to amaze

slender spruce
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what's a good special boon for triple bomb

rustic vale
sharp hemlock
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What's the concensus about Myrmidon Bracer? Trash or nah?

mint coral
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It exists

molten depot
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I have a question.

Does Eberus and Chaos count as chamber to the region chamber count? Or is it like a room squeezed between 2 chambers? Like if I use Chaos, will i reduce my chambers in the region by 1?

sharp hemlock
mint coral
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unless you take them at the last combat chamber of a biome (c12/22/34) in which case it'll actually be an additional room

mint coral
sharp hemlock
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Since you only get the Myrmidon Bracer popup in battle when you get damaged it's hard not to be biased against it

tepid plover
mint coral
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The numbers are also just low

sharp hemlock
mint coral
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Oh yeah I don't have ut maxed lmfao

tepid plover
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is a keepsake meant to facetank, which you shouldnt be doing, ever

mint coral
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30% is the same as weak/hyper sprint but these two don't cost you the keepsake slot

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And you generally already want them for dmg anyways so

sharp hemlock
tepid plover
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if it didnt have the backstab extra dmg it would be somewhat decent, but since it does, is garbage, detrimental even

sharp hemlock
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aight I'll drop it for now

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ty for your advice gentlemen

tepid plover
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rock & stone

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wait wrong game

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blood & darkness

tepid plover
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i dont think erebus can spawn on that condition

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chaos def can

mint coral
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Not like extentions are very good

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Unless you wanna do hyper delivery in tart for the memes

tepid plover
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not to mention youre guaranteed to fight the boss while crippled as well

mint coral
tepid plover
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it can still spawn regardless

mint coral
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Nope

tepid plover
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?

mint coral
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You can only see 1 hermes in tart

tepid plover
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yes

mint coral
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Taking the extension means you can see the 2nd

tepid plover
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oh

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ok

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i missed th 2 for some reason

mint coral
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Lol

restive thunder
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Is there a Dusa friendship requirement or something on the A Place of Revelry prophecy? Only I've just found out it's meant to be 10 items to finish it... I've bought 25 and Dusa only gives me normal dialogue ron

bright totem
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tfw room 1 music is not included in the ost version of house of hades

molten depot
rich onyx
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running twin fists rn aspect of demeter(magnetic cutter) whats the best hammer?

mint coral
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are you at a hammer atm or in general

fervent radish
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aspect of demeter is giga cutter and aspect of talos is magnetic cutter

rich onyx
rich onyx
fervent radish
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explosive upper

rich onyx
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mid run as we speak

fervent radish
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best hammer by far is breaching cross

rich onyx
fervent radish
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everything else is ok

old bluff
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Kinetic launcher and EU are second best hammers, but as Dragon said BC is best hammer by far

mint coral
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Long knuckle also comfy for defense

rich onyx
stoic summit
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bruh you have to get 4 demeters boons for the legendary boon sighhhhh

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its not even good wtf

old bluff
tepid plover
mint coral
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Yeah is cool as hell

latent moon
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Cutting a bosses hp by 15% is pretty huge

tepid plover
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REAP WHAT YOU SOW

stoic summit
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i guess but its mad unluckly to get four

mint coral
latent moon
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Oh well

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10% is still good lmao

tepid plover
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REAP WHAT YOU SOW

obsidian drum
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I got her and she killed Hades while saying that. Imagine killing your son in law that way

tepid plover
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thats not her son in law in the hadesverse

restive thunder
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Which is the legendary again?

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Oh the finisher
worth it for cool points

mint coral
restive thunder
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Got it exactly one time and she proceeded to kill Hades and it was super cool shadethumbsup You go, grandma

tepid plover
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play more

rich onyx
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little help here people

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after getting hidden aspect of guan yu, is there a specific order to get the next hidden aspects or can i get em in whatever order

old bluff
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Whatever order

rich onyx
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thanks

stoic summit
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why is this stupid defiance boon so impossible to get???

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(yes i already have another chaos boon)

rustic vale
fervent radish
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It’s like a 1% chance I think

stoic summit
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seriously!

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bruhhhhhhhhhhh

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is it that good?

fervent radish
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I’ve gotten it offered less than 5 times in like…450 hours of gameplay

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Nah it’s not even that good

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Athena gives it for free if you’re running SD

rustic vale
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How does it even work if you’re on stubborn defiance

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Oh wait you’d get the dd later

fervent radish
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Just gives you a DD I think

rustic vale
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No I was thinking about it like athena

twin thistle
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Egg should increase the chance i think

rustic vale
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Where you’d get it that room

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And I was thinking that it wouldn’t work because you can’t die in a chaos room

stoic summit
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yeah thats mid for the barely ever gonna get it odds

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doesnt egg only increase rarity?

latent moon
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It's good in high heat lmao

fervent radish
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It just gives it to you

rustic vale
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It’s not like athena then

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For stubborn defiance

fervent radish
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It’s just comparatively mid since it’s not that hard to just bank Athena SDs

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Just remember to die

rustic vale
hollow burrow
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How is the best way to get the skelly trophies? Been trying for a while to get them but i just cant win to hades

stoic summit
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what is the limited curse effect for it?

twin thistle
fervent radish
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All pretty safe/strong options for heat

twin thistle
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And a non terrible pact

fervent radish
latent moon
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Damn

hollow burrow
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oh thx a lot !

rustic vale
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The best way to get skelly statues is just go thru everything in your gamefiles and set them to true

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That won’t break anything, trust

stoic summit
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bro this stupid 50/50 chance for legendary is killing me every perfect catch is always not legendary gahh]

rich onyx
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running the shield of zeus, should i get explosive return, charged shot or minotaur rush

rustic vale
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Return

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Is far away the strongest zeus hammer

fervent radish
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Unless you’re trying to go fast

true oak
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hey everyone

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it's been two months, coming back to hades after exams

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god i miss this game

sleek rain
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hey does anybody have any good pact of punishment setups and builds for 32 heat and up

obtuse stirrup
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I didn't like it until I started playing modded

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Then I loved it

sleek rain
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oh cool thanks

fervent radish
sleek rain
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cshot?

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i was trying out eris but idk surprisingly finnicky

mint coral
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Charged shot

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Rush becomes an 80 base dmg projectile

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(and pierces)

reef zodiac
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The hammer that you need to make zag shield good (but it makes it very good)

heavy bear
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hello. if you have either the butterfly or the plume

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do you keep the bonuses you’ve wracked up

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when you switch

reef zodiac
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No

heavy bear
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booo. i didn’t think so but still

reef zodiac
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Plume is only good for early rush delivery, and butterfly is good for nothing at all

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Unfortunately

sleek rain
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is there a way to guarantee styx or do you just have to get lucky if you have tight deadline

reef zodiac
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You just have to get lucky. God only knows what they were thinking there

twin thistle
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You can get by with a 5 sack in lower heats

sleek rain
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im on 32 lol

twin thistle
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Yeah thats included in lower

sleek rain
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oh mkay

forest spear
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Both Alecto and Meg are fighting me, WHAT DO I DO??? 😨

mint coral
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same fight as usual

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just mind the extra projectiles

jagged hamlet
crystal island
steep echo
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nothing is more adrenaline pumping than finishing a td3 run with 20:xx on the timer

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my heart is still pounding

rustic vale
old bluff
rustic vale
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I mean I still have

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far to go

rustic vale
old bluff
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👎

rustic vale
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My adrenaline is pumping when I’m doing speed

old bluff
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I ❤️ speedrunning Hades

jagged hamlet
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Gotta appreciate a Head of Security who loves his job

old bluff
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I don't think Hades appreciates getting insta phased every time his son walks into his arena

jagged hamlet
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(he's secretly proud of Zagreus)

stoic summit
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ayy i got the chaos legendary boon lets go!

jovial peak
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I just finished 100%ing Hades 1! Good luck to you all, I'm moving on to Hades 2 finally. 👍

jovial peak
stoic summit
jovial peak
stoic summit
jovial peak
stoic summit
jovial peak
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sorry I was tabbed out

latent moon
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What about the 325k for the resource director :)

stoic summit
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yeahhh im going for every single thing possible to get, i got 135 hourse and like 110 runs rn

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i have like 3 achievements left

jovial peak
stoic summit
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the house contractor?

stoic summit
jovial peak
stoic summit
jovial peak
stoic summit
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well either way mad props

jovial peak
steep echo
sleek cliff
rustic vale
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154 hours to 100% Hades is crazy unless you’re doin steam achievements

jovial peak
gusty cave
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what's best aspect of gloves? don't have gila

mint coral
gusty cave
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also what demeter fist build?

lavish sorrel
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at level 3 or 4 or better yet 5, hestia goes nuts though

lavish sorrel
gusty cave
lavish sorrel
# gusty cave uhm could you say in simplier terms? like what to get on cast,atk,special

for MercifulEnd, you want ares attack, athena special, and athena dash. try and get impending doom from ares, and as many poms on the attack as you can get.

for zeus attack + static discharge, your goal is to get a static discharge from zeus and a poseidon dash, then dump as many poms into these as you can.

dionysus attack works a bit like zeus attack strategies, but you can't apply static discharge using the attack so you'll have to rely on the fists' high attack speed to keep the hangover damage going.

gusty cave
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alright gonna try ares

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wait what hammers do i want?

lavish sorrel
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breaching cross is best, but long knuckle and explosive upper are both valuable too.

gusty cave
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kk

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hope i beat hades in this run

rustic vale
lavish sorrel
gusty cave
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oh shoot chiron boss is avabile

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be i have no win rate agsiant him loll

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ah screw it

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gonna try

obtuse stirrup
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The mod that allows you to clear a bunch of heat at once and get all the rewards instead of going one by one has got to be in the top 3 Hades mods

gusty cave
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i died...

obtuse stirrup
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Try not to make a mess

restive thunder
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Shoutout to Zeus for watching me butcher this run trying to get duo boons for the prophecy list (I butchered that too zagsad) and just sort of saying "Here you go, Nephew" and throwing every good boon he has at me until I win by sheer force

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I'd done far worse using far better builds, good stuff

fervent radish
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Every Zeus boon is a pretty good build tbh

restive thunder
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Maybe if it wasn't on the fists dusa

mint coral
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If you had his attack and jolted then is already good

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Or dash/lightning reflexes+ jolted

restive thunder
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Wait that was attempt 100, Hypnos didn't congratulate me on dying 100 times zagcry

gusty cave
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WHAT

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HADES JUST LET ME GO??

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MY RUN WAS A WASTE???

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lmao no hades fight

mint coral
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Gg

gusty cave
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does he does this often?

mint coral
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One time

chilly jay
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Does anyone have a yt vid showing all the god kill voicelines in god trial in hades 1? I've heard of some but I wanna check them all out now lol

restive thunder
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Ok, now I'm super confused, I got dialogue from Dusa about the lounge after catapaulting nectar at her, and the prophecy is still incomplete

rustic vale
gray umbra
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well myrmidon bracer + weak will def help me

jagged hamlet
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gets backstabbed zagsad

gray umbra
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ahh hell i ahvent gone to 15 heat in the spear hmm

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and im def doing a lotta damage with my serrated point +153% dash strike

with +25% from high confidence

gray umbra
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yea i got to hades and i died KEK

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no matter i was just exerimenting w high confidence guan yu

jagged hamlet
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Gotta respect the moxie

gray umbra
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ohhh i shouldve had bouldy

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that wouldve helped

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its def possible with the build i got

i just had some skill issue oh well

jagged hamlet
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Might've been better to take Acorn over Bracer. Acorn is worth quite a lot defensively, and the less HP you have, the more value it provides

gray umbra
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mmh true

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now am gonna do athena stuff w beowufl

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first room chaos

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less go

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+33% rare or greater

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does "or greater" count duos in¿

mint coral
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yeah

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+10% to epics/duos/legendaries

jagged hamlet
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ur epic

gray umbra
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increiblde

heading for divine protection then

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oh lord, fast + double damage louts

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OH LORD

2 TIMES IN A ROW

AND THIS TIME IN THE 45 SECOND HADES ROOM

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i am

so surprised i didnt lose a dd there

latent moon
#

You have a shield in a survival room just block in a corner lmao

brisk trail
#

So ugh

#

Is it not possible to block with the shield?

mint coral
rich onyx
#

got my first hidden aspect other than guan yu, which was arthur

#

digging it so far

#

what hidden aspect should i get next guys?

old bluff
#

Beo

rich onyx
mint coral
#

yeah

rich onyx
#

i see

#

whats the worst hidden aspects tho you guys would say?

mint coral
#

gilga

old bluff
#

Arthur or Gilga are by far the worst

rich onyx
#

wait arthur bad? D:

mint coral
#

ok yeah no I actually dislike arthur more lol

rich onyx
#

ive been using it and i think its kinda fun

old bluff
#

It's just really slow, and face taking builds don't really work in Hades. It's always better to just kill everything

#

You can still have playing it tho

#

Every aspect is good in it's own right. Except Gilga. I hate Gilga

rich onyx
#

gilga is gun one?

old bluff
#

Fist one

twin thistle
#

Arthur fine for clearing in low heat but being slow and clunky isnt very good when enemies move at 1.4x speed and hit twice as hard

rich onyx
#

oh yeah i dont like fists personally so it ruins my day

regal epoch
#

Why than no talk to me 😭

#

I keep beating him but then he just leaves

old thicket
rich onyx
#

because man i sleep when i use gun

old thicket
#

It is super unique, does not play like the other gun aspects or any other weapon for that matter

rich onyx
#

is that the one where i need to talk to asterius

old bluff
rich onyx
#

to ZL

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for asterius do i need to talk to him with the gun in order to get hidden aspect? cause i know for shield u need to equip it in order to get it

old bluff
#

Asterius gives Gilga iirc

rich onyx
#

because i’ll be darned if i need to use gun in order to unlock its aspect

old bluff
#

What builds do you use on gun

old thicket
#

Exagryph: Aspect of Lucifer. Unlock the Aspect of Guan Yu, then invest at least 5 Titan Bloods into any Rail aspects. Zeus should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.

rich onyx
old thicket
#

Aspect of Eris is the best Exagryph one to invest in early, all of the guns benefit from Ares (stacking fast doom) and Athena ( with lucifer aspect detonating the special) works best for the gun I find, Poseidon turns it into a super soaker which is funny

latent moon
#

Ares on any of the rails isn't good lmao

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All except hestia want Zeus attack, hestia wants Aphrodite

#

The special for all is Artemis/Aphrodite ideally

rich onyx
#

what gods to look for if im using hestia?

jagged hamlet
#

Look one comment above yours

rich onyx
#

while i want hestia

jagged hamlet
#

I think you only read half of what Bananas said squirtyay

rich onyx
#

im sorry can u forgove me

jagged hamlet
#

Absolutely. Bring it here 🤗

rich onyx
#

yay

rich onyx
#

best stygius aspect?

mint coral
#

nemesis

jagged hamlet
#

Nemesis for swordplay

#

If you want to be a lazy caster, Poseidon can be fun

rich onyx
#

i will trust just this once

#

only once…

jagged hamlet
#

"Trust, but verify"
- limon, probably

regal epoch
#

Why is Thanatos not talking to me

#

He just teleports away

#

:(

jagged hamlet
#

He's late for work

regal epoch
#

How do I talk to him

#

The wiki says I need to do it for his favour

jagged hamlet
#

You'll just have to try to catch him another time

mint coral
#

Prob gotta talk to him at the house

regal epoch
#

It's happened like 20 times

mint coral
#

Aka just pray he's there

jagged hamlet
#

Oh, I thought you meant Than at home. Listen to SomeNoobDying

regal epoch
#

Yes but I need to talk to him after beating him for the favour

mint coral
#

Than is just a pain in the ass

mint coral
regal epoch
#

:(

regal epoch
mint coral
#

Tell him to appear more then

mint coral
#

Peak

old bluff
#

You may also need to talk to him in the house iirc, idk man it's been like 10 months since I did anything story related

regal epoch
#

Ok

#

I'll try that

mint coral
#

Same but even longer

#

For anything that's not main story at least bouldy

old bluff
#

I did the 10 run thing and then just started speedrunning zaglol.

mint coral
#

Still better than bigp at least

jagged hamlet
#

What if 🍨 has been ignoring Thanatos at home and Thanatos is peeved for having been ignored shadeohboy

latent moon
#

Ngl Thanatos is kinda out of the way in the house lmao

#

He's so far

#

But I think you can see him after you die

#

Like coming out of the pool

old bluff
jagged hamlet
#

What is bigp? I dun wanna Google it

old bluff
#

You def should

#

A picture of a goat should come up, trust

mint coral
#

Maxed file and everything

old bluff
#

Noob it's a joke about how his name sounds like big p*nis

mint coral
#

Off to tartarus with you

#

And may your fountains be non existent

old bluff
#

I play on the modpack, they can't hide from me

desert aurora
#

mb mb i wasnt looking

rich onyx
#

how to get companions? how am i 4 heat yet had no idea these things existed...

rough glade
#

How well do y'all think Artemis on eris will go? Great?

low raven
#

I’ve been playing Hades for years and I just found out that you can talk to bouldy Bouldy zagcry why did nobody tell meeee XD

rough glade
low raven
rough glade
low raven
#

Yea zaglol zagcry

rich onyx
#

what if im using tight deadline and run out of time mid final boss fight?

#

do i instant die

#

or whst

rough glade
tepid light
rich onyx
#

thank goodness

#

i beat him before

tepid light
#

dw, not instant death

rich onyx
#

the time rna out

#

1:30

#

i am safe

rough glade
#

Damn it I was so excited to fight Hades (weird run but doing well) and I didn't realize it was my tenth wasn't able to and now I'm sad. Cool ending tho

gusty cave
#

idk how but uhm hestia kileld chiron

trail iron
#

What are the best aspects to purchase first? I haven't unlocked the third aspects for purchase yet

rustic vale
#

Sans the hidden aspects since they’re kinda spoilsrs

sacred pecan
#

is there anything else to unlocking Hypnos' hearts other than "pray for good rng dialogue"? its been so long since he said anything substantial to me, I forgot he even is a relation (and Than couldn't care less of course)

stoic summit
#

dang why does dusa need so much dang ambrosia

sacred pecan
stoic summit
stoic summit
#

can you not forge a bond with thanatos or dusa without...

magic pike
#

Without what

mint coral
rustic vale
#

like

#

have you hit her locked hearts?

mint coral
#

After maxing dusa you still need 1 more convo for the bond

iron shard
#

hai

gray umbra
#

is there a max lv for boons

reef zodiac
#

No

rustic vale
#

You need to complete her favour to progress

#

Which is liks

#

Buy a bunch of furniture

#

The exact specifics are on the fandom wiki

#

Zagreus must help her bring the lounge up to Nyx's standards by using the House Contractor to complete a minimum of 12 Lounge-focused renovations, which must include at least one rug for the area as well as cleaning up Cerberus's fur and the scratches he left in the floor

formal citrus
#

So I'm trying out a "enemies and traps are as strong as possible and also timer" heat setup run. DC 2 is really tough most of the time. Only tried Hera so far and usually die in tart.

twin thistle
formal citrus
#

Zeus special kind of became ideal. Hell, Zeus attack wouldn't be bad.

latent moon
#

It doesn't negate hits like DC so you're still dealing damage

#

But it's just like always there and making things longer to kill

formal citrus
#

Yeah, could easily be less noticeable.

#

Still, tart has a lot of little things. DC really makes numb skulls suck.

#

Trying to special or snurst them just means I'm standing still too long and taking big damage

fervent radish
#

dc sucks with hera

#

even nitro's 57? heat took DC1

#

neutralizing that first cast is rough

covert plover
#

Curious on what the community thinks on this because I had a fellow fan that thought otherwise: Is the Aspect of Lucifer a future aspect or a past aspect?

fervent radish
#

future

crisp zodiac
#

Anyone have that image of Hypnos telling Zag to git gud on hand?

obsidian drum
#

Me: Trying to get the aspect of Lucifer

#

me: The one Lucifer I can think of:

reef zodiac
brisk trail
#

Hey

#

What jobs should I prioritize from the house contractor?

#

How will I know everything is available to purchase?

#

Stuff keeps getting unlocked

obsidian drum
#

The ones in Great Hall

#

The left and right wings are mostly decoratives

mint coral
brisk trail
#

What’s the last stuff to appear?

mint coral
#

Uh prob check the wiki for that?

#

I think it has the correct info

queen monolith
#

than is so shyyyyyyyyy

rose kite
#

than 😍

brisk trail
#

Than the man

#

Thanatoes if you will

queen monolith
#

i think i dont understand the pets from achilles and meg? isn't her objectively better?

#

hows the damage distributed

rustic vale
#

Meg is objectively best for speedrunning

#

Also really really solid for heat due to the speed / damage/ aoe

queen monolith
#

but like hows the balance there even meant?

#

her deals 2500 to how many enemies in a row?

#

and achilles only deals 1500 to 2 enemies?

latent moon
#

Achilles has more single target damage

#

Achilles summon can hit the same target twice

#

Can delete sneak and doomstone in Tartarus

twin thistle
#

Can also be used against furies bouldy

latent moon
#

In case you really hate them

queen monolith
#

lol ok

glacial storm
#

I just finished my 9th run

#

It was way harder than the first 8 clears 😭

#

I almost wiped and lost my 4 escape streak

stoic summit
#

how much health does charon have?

stoic summit
plush eagle
#

Oops

ivory wagon
#

I think Mort is pretty good you can't just pop it like Meg's companion but you can still place it pretty reliably

#

Like after I phase Theseus it will hit both of them for free

mint coral
#

Meg can hit them both at the start instead

#

The main thing for meg is the speed

#

And 2.5k is enough to destroy most mini bosses armor

#

(except big rat/big laser in styx)

stoic summit
#

i just got paupers defiance offered a second time in the same run without egg

#

but there is an epic caustic lunge which is way better

glacial storm
#

Dusa the goat character

#

On god

copper field
#

is there some glitch where ares just wont let the locked heart open?

copper field
#

and also dinonysus ive gifted like atleast 20 ambrosia bottles and he just doesnt care

old bluff
#

Did you gift them ambrosia?

copper field
old bluff
stoic summit
#

4 time getting offered legendary chaos boon out of like 20 attempts

tired iron
#

god both of the boss themes for hades go so hard

spring vapor
#

Ahhhh why is chaos’ legendary so hard to get🥲

spring vapor
gray umbra
#

question

is dark foresight better than olympian favor

rustic vale
#

It’s not even a question

#

+40% rare chance is not enough quality to beat out the sheer massive quantity more boons/poms/gold/hearts you find

gray umbra
#

ive been using olympian favor for like all my runs ahahhaa

#

but ill try foresight

rustic vale
#

The decrease in all my gold laurels was

#

heavily noted

gray umbra
#

i see you big man

rustic vale
gray umbra
#

na

rustic vale
#

Given how low darkness drops from rooms are I wouldn’t be concerned about them compared to just how fast you kill bosses

gray umbra
#

plus gemstones

the reward is only 6 thats hh

rustic vale
gray umbra
#

i can kill bosses for more gems

#

yea

#

does foresight

#

also affect chaos chances¿

rustic vale
#

Afaik no since he isn’t a gold laurel reward

gray umbra
#

wow rocket bomb is nice

gray umbra
#

yea i got out of tartarus with 5 blessings lol

#

boons*

#

my normal is like 3 or even 2 lmao

brisk trail
#

They need to add Baboons

#

Boons just aren’t enough

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

Doubloons

rustic vale
#

those too

#

obols? nah

brisk trail
rustic vale
#

gimme doubloons

brisk trail
#

Blood and darkness tower

rustic vale
#

Exactly

brisk trail
#

Artemis sniping archer tower

rustic vale
#

Lucifer tower

brisk trail
#

Grow Dionysus fields to sell fruit to buy more towers!

#

The towers would be shooting at the titans and their armies

jagged hamlet
#

Somebody get this llama a team and a research grant ASAP!

lethal lotus
#

Guys, what's your most used boon, aspect, hammer upgrade?

old bluff
lethal lotus
#

Are you playing fists mostly?

old bluff
#

Beo is a shield

#

Also it is due to me being a speedrunner

rustic vale
fervent radish
rustic vale
#

Crazy how I have 235 Antos uses and 233 Hyper Sprint uses

fervent radish
#

And there’s a build right there lmao

#

Idk exactly since I clear run history

gusty cave
#

bro why can't i romabnce dusa

jagged hamlet
#

She's too cool for you

mint coral
#

gonna record a small demo to explain myself better when explaining heroes fights and lmfao fo0 slow

#

and might as well show call iframes

old bluff
#

Sword moment

rustic vale
#

If they’re focused on the gameppay they won’t notice the little skull

mint coral
#

ik they'll prob won't notice the fo2 timings but still

old bluff
#

No tdash start makes me sad :{

mint coral
#

hi barge

old bluff
rustic vale
#

Oml

#

1st hammer Hoardinf/cursed/flurry

#

+2% dmg bonus from bouldy thou

mint coral
#

would you pom common jolted to 2 or call to 3 (both common, jolted off lightning reflexes mostly)

#

banking on smair

rustic vale
#

think I’d take jolted

old bluff
#

Jolted easy

rustic vale
#

I got sprint purple haste earlier on zag sword

#

Was zooming til I died

#

Back at it with shackle zag sword for another go

old bluff
rustic vale
#

Pull up to heroes with heroic swift strike flurry/piercing wave zag sword

#

For your heroes explanation video

mint coral
#

lightning reflexes giving me mad call charge lmfao

#

almost full called by accident

#

tho I think it was mainly a lernie moment

#

every thing triggers reflexes here

rustic vale
#

Hmm

#

Breaching slash or syper novaaaaaaa

#

Breaching slash is always nice but

#

I’m really feeling the special the more I play shackle zag sword

mint coral
#

iframing the bullrush looks goofy

mint coral
#

anyone knows a good video editor bouldy

#

I'll rather have pieces of the fight to post lmao

jagged hamlet
#

Does your recording software not have an option to create clips?

mint coral
#

oops

#

I forgot that shadowplay works for more than the average beo fight recording

pastel merlin
#

I can barely read the rest unfortunately because of how small it is

old bluff
#

The high tiers are right tho

rustic vale
#

Wth

old bluff
#

But some things are only there for one or 2 builds

#

Like crush is only there for Hera

mint coral
rustic vale
pastel merlin
#

Tidal Dash is one of the few boons I actively remember from the first game

rustic vale
# mint coral "support fire isn't so great? are you-"

~~ Support Fire isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a boon with such an ability and damage with artemis? Support Fire puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a boon with its power and enhancement of the game again. Merciful End breaks records. Mirage Shot breaks records. Suppot Fire breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.~~

old bluff
#

But can we get shackle's aspect tier list

latent moon
old bluff
#

one sec

latent moon
#

Everyone's also gonna complain that they can't read the boon names lmao

rustic vale
#

After this run

#

Does tierlist maker already have it as a catagory

#

I remember having the make the sword one myself

#

no my epic bronze skin

#

wait I didn’t reset my sd post lernie fifgt

#

Walking into ely with 6 hp and an sd

#

Oh!!!!

#

Roiling Defiance bouldy

#

+72% enemies

mint coral
#

ball

rustic vale
#

we take those

#

VOIDSKATE

#

It’s meant to be

jagged hamlet
#

omw to downvote! 🏃

old bluff
#

User name is big-boko69 btw

mint coral
#

time to log in to reddit for the first time in like a month just for the bit

rustic vale
#

Can’t get JS3.5’d on an Asterius fight

#

Guys maybe JS3.5 just for a defiance wasn’t the best idea in 32heat elsyium

#

oh right

#

Aspect tier list

old bluff
obsidian drum
#

Lucifer after I made him see Greece to beat my father

old bluff
#

Is second for enjoyment?

rustic vale
#

yeah

#

no

#

don't write that down

#

if you're looking at the second one

#

the first one sure

#

the second one is my own enjoyment

old bluff
#

Definitive speedrun weapon list, all ordered btwhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1240373379073052733/1251750138288930926/Screenshot_2024-06-15_230751.png?ex=666fb6a9&is=666e6529&hm=d73e1c79cae589908785fd61028c00dbaa910fb57ce355a2c920a93c86d05b41&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=202

rustic vale
#

like I'm a mega huge zag rail fan due to spreadfire but it is not eris or hestia by a longshot

sleek cliff
old bluff
#

Btw, somebody just commented about the low quality on the boon list, bananas truly can see the future

latent moon
#

Last time I saw an all boons tierlists the names were unreadable

#

The last tierlist was also pretty garbage overall

old bluff
#

You can’t get the whole thing in a screen shot with zooming out super far

latent moon
#

Yeah I figured

#

You'd have to like get it in 2 screenshots lmao

jagged hamlet
#

Or stitch together a big image!

old bluff
#

I’m too lazy, it was meant to be a joke

rustic vale
#

idk what they're on about
I

latent moon
#

Fair lmao

rustic vale
#

I can read this just fin

latent moon
#

True just memorize all the icons

rustic vale
#

tidal dash, rd, Me, Mirage shot, jolted, arte strike
hs, crush shot, flood shot, zeus strike, arte flourish, hunters mark, pp, greatest reflex, smair, shoals, beaver, lightining shot, billowing str, zeus aid, ares strike, athena flourish, ddash, hunting blaldes, slicing shot, rod, splitting bolt.
Heavens vengeance, double strike, blade dash, impending

#

woops

#

hydraulic might, proud bearing, flurry cast, aphro strike, flourish,heart rend, hunter dash, boiling point, dying lament, DR, snow burst, trippy shot, quick reload, greater haste, sea storm, CoD, dio call, CoV, lightningreflexes, phalanx shot, lightnign phalanx, Vengeful mood, DP, Nourished soul?, ice wine?, premium vintage, rare crop, ravenous will, support fire, sure footing, sweet nectar, swwet surrender, deadly shot

#

Meh: Storm Lightning, Life Affirmation, Blood frenzy, Wave Pounding, strong drink, ares special, LT, dire misfortune, splitting headache, fully loaded, holy shield, greater recall? excluisve access, bliding flash, athena aid, bad news, urge to kill, typhoon fury, sunken treasure, CoN, riptide, pos aid,

#

ok I'm not going any further

#

Anyone who needs more pixels than that is cringr

last osprey
#

can u use magaera's summon in bossfights?

rustic vale
#
  1. it’s meg and you’re using meg
last osprey
#

i had all charges when i was at hades and i couldnt use it

rustic vale
#
  1. it’s an employee of Hades and Hades hasn’t greenlit those yet
last osprey
#

ohh

rustic vale
#

You should be using them

#

You can only use them once per room

last osprey
#

bro wtf is this im talking abt hades 1

rustic vale
rustic vale
last osprey
#

oh

#

i just recently unlocked it so i dont know much

#

i have 50 hours on tha game

#

whichc i should probably be more unlocked

spring vapor
#

I got it I got the chaos legendary 😭

fervent radish
fervent radish
rustic vale
#

It doesn’t really change my opinion

fervent radish
#

I mean ig

keen mortar
#

i went to EM4 and now i don't want to go back even though i'm over the heat counter, the upped bossfights are so much more fun than things like hard labor or tight deadline

latent moon
#

Take all of them lmao

#

Em4 hl and td

keen mortar
#

i have like a 20% win rate over just em4 rn lmao, i think i'll wait

#

every time i try for a cast build chaos just doesn't appear ever ;-;

#

and then they shower me with +1 cast and +70% cast dmg in other runs

jagged hamlet
#

I wonder how differently Hades would play if we got a parry mechanic a la Bastion's shield

latent moon
#

There'd be more aggro play styles lmao

fervent radish
#

Happens

gilded heart
gray umbra
#

somehow i didnt die

#

time for biggest challenge which is 32 heat

#

and seeing how i lost a dd in tartarus its not gonna go very well

#

oh no barge of death

#

holy mama mia playing 32 heat is like playing the game for the first time again

mint coral
#

High confidence dusa

gray umbra
#

KEK

old bluff
#

HC kinda based

gray umbra
#

well if i made it to elysium with -50 health that has to account for something right

#

for my first 32 heat run

mint coral
#

Also em4 bouldy

gray umbra
#

well excuse me i dunno anything about 32 heat!!!!!!! wah

latent moon
#

Dc1 hera

old bluff
#

RR and stygian Hera is so cursed wtf

gray umbra
#

i gor bounty limit with bow thats why i attempted 32

static shoal
jagged frost
#

Hi there! quick q - im in elysium and charon's "borrowable" bag showed up in his shop, but the next room is also an encounter with patroclus. i want to do both! if you win against charon does it skip the next room completely, or does it bring you to it?

gray umbra
#

ive been wonderin that too

jagged frost
#

aww RIP

static shoal
#

Pro tip: always, always take patroclus

jagged frost
#

yeah thats what ill go with haha

static shoal
#

no i mean like

mint coral
#

I've used Charon to avoid a god in my pool before lmao

static shoal
#

in every situation, you should take patroclus

gray umbra
#

charon smaron

static shoal
mint coral
#

Charon at high heat dusa

twin thistle
#

bouldy you dont take high heat charon

static shoal
#

yeah I was gonna mention that next

#

"how'd you manage to survive"

gray umbra
#

12 heat marks so much difference

rich fjord
#

and then the cast hits

mint coral
#

That dmg loss adds up fast

#

It also means that lining up enemies to hit with 1 cast also goes to waste

bright sentinel
#

Shield gaming

stray anchor
#

is telling hermes to shut up part of the vanilla game? cuz it's hilarious

brisk trail
#

I love Hermes

rich fjord
#

wtf is this games rng

#

0 wells in styx with the hourglass

#

needed to clear every single room for sack

#

and hermes just doesnt wanna give rd

heavy dove
#

starting 2nd phase of hades with 2 hp, 0 death defiance
i dont know how i win, but i did

lethal lotus
sharp hemlock
#

Guys theres like a trick with Daedalus Hammers right? Where if you don't take it in Tartarus it appears again? i cant remember what was that tip about

mint coral
#

Hermes works the same

sharp hemlock
#

yes that's exactly what I was thinking about, I'll google to find further info

mint coral
#

Difference is that your 2nd hammer will only show up in elysium+
2nd hermes can show up from asphodel+