#h1-discussion

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subtle needle
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if charon swims me swells up like one of those cheap dinosaurs you put in water

mortal copper
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GKGKKDKD

slender spruce
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question!

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for Igneous Eden

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is infinite ammo or faster ramp up better

mint coral
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What's your third option

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But I think either of them blocks the other so you have better triple bomb odds

lavish sorrel
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triple bomb is the only luci hammer that matters, after all 😌

slender spruce
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the 3rd one is the slow

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on special

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sounds bad

mint coral
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That's still more decent I think lol

lavish sorrel
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targeting system is damage 😌

mint coral
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Unless you really want triple bomb odds

slender spruce
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30% seems weak

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went for the faster ramp up

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so far Igneous feels weak

mint coral
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We are mentioning triple bomb for a reason

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It kinda is its best hammer

tepid plover
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^

mint coral
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So zeus effects or your dash for example are also buffed

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Is kinda a lvl 2 eris thanthink

lavish sorrel
slender spruce
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I am yet to read what 3bomb does

mint coral
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You can shoot 3 specials quickly

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Max lvl luci would be 300 dmg for the explosions w/o boons

slender spruce
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what does faster special do actually?

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Hermes boon

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should I get it for luci gun

mint coral
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For rail is cooldown between shooting iirc

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What are the other boons

tepid plover
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yep, exactly what it sounds like, youre basically tripling the dmg of the special, as well as any sort of boon it has

slender spruce
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bad boons

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20%ms and buffs on call

mint coral
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Ouch

slender spruce
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I can reroll

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if special cd is bad

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2nd hermes

mint coral
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What was your first

slender spruce
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coin generator

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side hustle

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i'll just reroll

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ah dammit

mint coral
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I'd probably greed for +dashes but idk

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Could just take whatever

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Stupid data bouldy

fervent radish
slender spruce
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didn;t knew that

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but probably would've still went and grabbed Athena call early

fervent radish
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I mean

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Second wind is actually kinda nice to have for heat

sleek cliff
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i meant nobody calls it static discharge

fervent radish
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Alr

brisk trail
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What is the worst boon in your opinion?

jagged hamlet
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I can barely read the table at 100% size, but boy what a table

reef zodiac
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I mean sure, you may never see it, but it isn’t BAD

jagged hamlet
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Nooo, not dear Fully Loaded!

reef zodiac
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Idk why I looked at D tier first

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There’s a lot of questionable things

jagged hamlet
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Probably because Dragonappendix mentioned D

reef zodiac
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Yeah

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Who puts battle rage in S

fervent radish
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Hestia players

fervent radish
reef zodiac
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Wait billowing strength, greatest reflex, pressure points in C…

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Is this an aspect of Hestia tier list wtf

fervent radish
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Nah just my tier list

reef zodiac
fervent radish
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Billowing strength is ok but everything else from Zeus is just more preferable

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PP sucks without HM

reef zodiac
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It’s alright

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It’s the ideal Arty boon if you don’t want her cores

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There’s literally not another boon I hope to see over it

tepid plover
reef zodiac
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So I would certainly put it higher personally

reef zodiac
tepid plover
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In my personal tierlist stubborn roots is all the way down

reef zodiac
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I also play ideally below 50 heat, and if I go above 50 it’s with Beo and not by much

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And I’ll run AP0 whenever possible

mortal copper
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Honestly the boons depend on what heat you’re playing, and how far you are in the game

mint coral
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peer pressure is just really bad yeah

reef zodiac
mortal copper
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Like Poseidon’s resource boons are okay when you’re an early player, but go straight down to the worst boons ever once you have all your resources

fervent radish
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It’s ok

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Oceans bounty is sellable

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Not pommable

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Wait I think it’s sellable

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Anyways it reduces the chance of getting Poseidon cores which can be annoying sometimes

tepid plover
reef zodiac
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Lmao

mortal copper
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Hmm true, I’m mostly talking about Sunken Treasure

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One time I picked that just to fulfill the prophecy and it gave me like a measly 5 gems

reef zodiac
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I mean it still isn’t useful but it has a chance to do slightly more than any of his other boons

mint coral
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money is money (at least doesn't mess with poms)

reef zodiac
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In that situation

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AP2 Beo is horrible, do not try it

mint coral
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smth smth lvl 7 dem attack

reef zodiac
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Whether you leave Tartarus with an 80 damage cast or a 200+ damage cast is just a series of coin flips

fervent radish
reef zodiac
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If I ever go back to 55 Beo, I will do RI2 AP1, I do not know what I was thinking

fervent radish
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Just don’t take other boons

reef zodiac
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I’ll be sure to bring fated authority

sleek cliff
sleek cliff
reef zodiac
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Wym

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I started passion flare

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And I didn’t want to see Poseidon

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Because literally the best thing he had to offer me was Ocean’s Bounty

tepid plover
sleek cliff
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nvm

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ap2 beo is so bad

reef zodiac
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AP2 is so bad

sleek cliff
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it should not be that hard to get 1/3 dem boons, 2 of which are literally cores

real night
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i love it when i make literally the slowest catch i can without losing the fish and i still get a scuffer zagcry

tepid plover
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is that supposed to be bad?

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scuffer is the rare one

dull elbow
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Hades 2 release iss killing me shadegrief, just a quick showerthought, did the pandemic ever hinder the progress/production of Hades considering the 1.0 version was released quite late into 2020?

jagged hamlet
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Per the documentary, it did! SGG even had a little break-in at their studio

dull elbow
jagged hamlet
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You're welcome!

paper wedge
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Where would I put images of fan art and stuff

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And how

latent moon
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#fan-works

paper wedge
paper wedge
tepid plover
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Divine dash my beloved, love when the fates bless me like this

bright harbor
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Hi

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So question, been playing for like a week or two -50ish runs and done with the main story(20+ escapes), my question is if thats the norm cause i have seen so much about people not having a single escape even after 100s of attempts and youtube guides like "how to get ur first escape"

tepid plover
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There's no "norm". Each person progresses at their pace

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Not right or wrong

mint coral
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For the average I guess is faster lol

fervent radish
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i've seen someone escape at run 4/5

mint coral
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I mainly see around 30-50 for first attempts?

fervent radish
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and i've seen over 100 attempts without an escape

tepid plover
fervent radish
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so there's a huge range. in my eyes, what matters is what you do after that first clear

fervent radish
mint coral
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32h clear rates sounds interesting tho

dusty charm
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Does Billowing strength buff the damage of calls like artims and aphro?

tepid plover
mint coral
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If the buff says "do more dmg" it buffs everything from zag

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Same for "enemies take more dmg" and that includes stuff like traps

dusty charm
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yea was wondering cause "after using your call"

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So did not know if it counted the calls damage

tepid plover
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Not the triggering call I think

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But the next if within time

dusty charm
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Well some calls deals their damage after you activating it, which is what im wondering about

rustic vale
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Aphrodite is easy to check

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Easy aside from needing 100% call gauge

dusty charm
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Artimes?

rustic vale
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No clue

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It’d be easier than aphrdite what am I on

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You just pop a 20% one and watch the damage

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make sure you account for any other global additive

dusty charm
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I see

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Oh well back to the Darkness grind.

rustic vale
dusty charm
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I see you all in 4 years when i got the last security rank

rustic vale
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It doesn’t really matter aside from zeus and dio bc the other ones aren’t getting anywhere near as much value

dusty charm
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Artmies call is one of the biggest nuke damage tho?

rustic vale
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that’s the issue

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ā€œNukeā€ bouldy

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Zeus and dionysus far out perform it and are consistent damage over your fight

dusty charm
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Really?

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I awlays find Arti burst damage to be better. Unless im doing specific builds or higher heat runs

rustic vale
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You get great value in regular rooms, you have less investment if you pop them and hit a bosses break points

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Pretty sure you literally get better damage overall from 4 zeus/dio mini calls aside from that

dusty charm
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I hold it till the firs shield drops of a boss fight. Then I pretty much skip a phase.

rustic vale
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being able to use your calls in regular rooms, you aren’t reliant on needing 100% charge for that damage, and you can get value from smouldering air

twin thistle
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Kinda pointless when you can deal with each phase in 5 seconds with zeus call

rustic vale
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holding onto that charge for extended periods of time is wasted charge gain that zeus and dio wouldn’t have

dusty charm
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And to be clear. I get other calls might be better for heat runs. Im mostly doing no heat and rush through to grind darkness.

rustic vale
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yeah

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Exactly

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It’s faster

twin thistle
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In that case zeus call is defo better

rustic vale
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You can get great value in every single room instead of only getting value in bosses

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and the value you get in bosses is just higher

dusty charm
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...Okay No swearing..

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Honestly I really only build for Darkness with posidon and chaos. I never really use calls in rooms as I just rush through them anyway without much problem (Apart from specific times were I goofed up and played badly) Otherwise I just builda round Hades

rustic vale
dusty charm
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Yea that is fair

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But often I started to just rush in brain off. get to the end

rustic vale
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There’s only one real boon to nab from poseidon

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I guess 2 if you count exclusive access

dusty charm
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Two*

rustic vale
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Nope

dusty charm
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x% more from darkness and ocean bounty

latent moon
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the % more from darkness is oceans bounty isnt it lmao

dusty charm
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.. You might be correct

rustic vale
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Oceans bounty is what matters

latent moon
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sunken treasure is the random assortment one lmao

dusty charm
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The one which increased how much darkness. And the one that just drops resourcers.

fervent radish
rustic vale
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Sunken treasure is a bad boon

dusty charm
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Not for me

twin thistle
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Sunken isnt a lot

latent moon
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i'd roll over sunken treasure to get ocean's bounty or the duo

dusty charm
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Cause I ony care about Darkness.

dusty charm
rustic vale
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you don’t want to focus on taking it because taking boons for your build will enable you to clear faster, and what you really want is more darkness over time

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so you get +% darkness boons but not sunken treasure

dusty charm
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Eh im not that concerned about speed.

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I consistently do sub 20's anyway

twin thistle
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Speed is how you get more darkness

latent moon
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i mean chances are you're starting with poseidon at the start of the run anyways so you'd already ideally have tidal dash

fervent radish
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biggest darkness gain is from bosses and any boons except high rarity chaos darkness boons that you take to get marginal amounts of darkness will hinder your overall darkness gain

jagged hamlet
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You could easily halve your clear times šŸ‘€

rustic vale
dusty charm
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Yes but that is assuming I spam many games every day

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I do 3 games now and then. Cause ADHD

fervent radish
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not rly

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the darkness you get is the same regardless, and you're less likely to die/can fit more runs into a session if you have a good build you can go faster with

dusty charm
rustic vale
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Your overall darkness gained is going to be nearly identical thanks to how low the darkness gains from treasure are

dusty charm
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Yea but its a small edge that builds up

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and again im nto to concerned with fast clears here.

rustic vale
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~

jagged hamlet
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I'm saying you can halve your run times even without being overly concerned with fast clears

dusty charm
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I mean, I already am talking here while afk.

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I mean I know, I get what you guys saying. I know about tons of ways I could improve it.

rustic vale
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You’d end up with more time to do whatever else your adhd wants to do

dusty charm
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THis is more about how I as a person approch the game. I rather try to maximize darkness per run.

fervent radish
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i'm gonna say that your goals are your goals, but having a mindless grind is going to be harder to stay focused on than having some more tangible goal like speedrunning or heat

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Just my input as someone who would get bored of a darkness grind really quickly

rustic vale
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real

dusty charm
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Oh I do speedruns and heat runs to.

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And sometimes I only do darkness runs. Like right now

fervent radish
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(join hades speedrunning) bouldy

dusty charm
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Best run is sub 14

rustic vale
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and tbh putting a decent build together doesn’t have to sacrifice the darkness gain

fervent radish
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nice

rustic vale
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If you’ve got somehing cohesive in mind

dusty charm
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But I am cursed. Whenever I am recording, I get awful RNG and dreadful runs. When I am not recording and doing practice runs for speed

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yea okay what if I just got everything just perfect

fervent radish
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the solution is to always be recording

dusty charm
rustic vale
fervent radish
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also you might be aiming for too many boons. the best builds don't need that much

rustic vale
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that’s the idea

dusty charm
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yea I need to imrpove my speed builds when doing that.

rustic vale
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my darkness runs quickly transformed into a lot of hangover builds as I aimed at getting exclusive access early to guarantee purple eclipses from chaos

white scaffold
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yo question, I just saw hades had a download on steam, what got updated

fervent radish
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hades 2?

dusty charm
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My darkness runs are usualy. "Im bored, im extremly tired from work and cant be bothered to do anything else. So lets get 3 runs in"

rustic vale
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Hades update? For the first time in years? No shot bouldy

fervent radish
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they added a new weapon

white scaffold
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hades 1, it's why I got in here lol

jagged hamlet
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Crypt of the Necrodancer got an update after years and years. Why not Hades šŸ‘€

fervent radish
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just making sure, lots of people end up here talking about hades 2

tepid plover
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cause

rustic vale
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They added Melinoe

fervent radish
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you can now play as the hollow knight

twin thistle
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We now have hex start in h1 bouldy

rustic vale
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Risk of rain Hades crossover

fervent radish
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they removed calls

rustic vale
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they fixed mirageshot beo

tepid plover
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silksong x hades

latent moon
dusty charm
# rustic vale Fair enough

Yea. I know I could improve my darkness grind. But eh. Ill get there when I get there. I mean ive been doing it on and off for over a year

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Eventually..

fervent radish
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they removed chiron and replaced it with an aspect that loads your cast into your attack

rustic vale
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@hadesdevs when is the risk of rain 2 crossover

dusty charm
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I just need to do Securiuty ranks..and those damm chaos fishes.. and we got he pure 100%

rustic vale
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Update Hades with Jonesy from fortnite after they added Hades to fortnite tizomg

dusty charm
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Darkness: 2370
Security rank: Delta Agent

rustic vale
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Oh

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You’re so far

fervent radish
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oof

dusty charm
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I saved up darkness while grinding all the other rescources. When I finally had all of them I spamm bought Security ranks

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aand did not even get half way

rustic vale
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It takes 325k darkness total

fervent radish
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yeah it's a really big grind

dusty charm
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There is nothing else left for me to do

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Well those dammed chaos fishes..

rustic vale
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I think I’m exactly 15 off?

latent moon
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speedrun and high heat lmao

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the fun stuff :)

rustic vale
dusty charm
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SPeedruns are every now and then when my ego is good

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My best heat was 34 for the statue

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Or was it 32..

rustic vale
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32 is the highest stature

latent moon
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32 is the statue lmao

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yea

latent moon
rustic vale
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Have you completed your pokedex yet?

dusty charm
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How many has beaten 64 now?

dusty charm
latent moon
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modded like 8 or something

rustic vale
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Y’know that thing that updates everytime you catch a new enemy

dusty charm
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Oh the codex? yea the only thing I got left is 2 fishes I havent found. Everything else is done

fervent radish
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yeah i would pick some other goal to focus on and just let the darkness pile up

dusty charm
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Yea

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there is none left

fervent radish
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as you get faster, darkness gain will increase

dusty charm
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I did them all

twin thistle
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just do the 40/50 heat grind

latent moon
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easy

dusty charm
rustic vale
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oh y’know what

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the

dusty charm
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I havent done a zero damage run yet..

rustic vale
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You could rng manipulate chaos fish

dusty charm
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Oh I know

rustic vale
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if you want it that badly

dusty charm
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But heres the thing

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I am really stupid

rustic vale
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And that’s the most easy thing for your darkness grind

dusty charm
latent moon
rustic vale
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Bc a voidskate is like 500 darkness right there

dusty charm
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All these years. And now the last fish been spoiled.

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Its so over

rustic vale
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My bad

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I meant like

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Scyllascion

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Fr

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Trust

dusty charm
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Also

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I had the posidon boon for more fishes

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But kept forgetting to go to chaos

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Let me repeat my self

dusty charm
rustic vale
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Homie

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Chaos is the most useful thing for your darkness farming runs

dusty charm
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I know

tepid plover
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and pos

rustic vale
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Even if you don’t get darkness boosts you’ll get damage boosts

dusty charm
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After that run I just looked in the mirror

rustic vale
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and you can’t get multiple oceans bounties

tepid plover
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just jopined, oops

rustic vale
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You can get multiple eclipses

rustic vale
dusty charm
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What comes first

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Lst security rank for me or hades 2 1.0

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it is gonna be hades 2

rustic vale
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idk

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I just remembered another speed thin

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That doesn’t require you to do

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anything with your build

dusty charm
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The heat set up?

rustic vale
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Yeah you probably have it

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Em2 fo2 td1

dusty charm
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Dont remember it on top of my head as it has been a while

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But I do remember when I comapred my bets run to speedrun.com

rustic vale
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Td1 is an rta thing rather than igt you might not have it

dusty charm
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I think I would have had place 14 or so

fervent radish
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huh

latent moon
rustic vale
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Wasn’t your top run sub14?

dusty charm
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Tho it was specifically for that aspect and not the over all best runs but sshhh let me have my ego boost

rustic vale
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There are a lot of sub5 clears

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a lot

fervent radish
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ah fair enough

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which aspect

latent moon
dusty charm
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I cant recall..

latent moon
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20 total maybe

rustic vale
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yeah

latent moon
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is that a lot lmao

rustic vale
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20 is a lot tizomg

dusty charm
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Think it was one of the sword once

latent moon
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arthur bc no ones speedruns it

fervent radish
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arthur?

rustic vale
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poseidon or zag or arthur

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probablt

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Arthurr

dusty charm
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also I noticed that the in game run trackers are scuffed..

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as I wont see my best run at some places. But others it will.

rustic vale
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and most categories use them

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A few categories track real life time insread and those are often significantly higher

dusty charm
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Oh yea might be why

latent moon
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yeah most of my speedruns are always like 20 mins rta even tho the runs are like sub9

dusty charm
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Fastest run is 13:30 zag aspect sword

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Okay light shot decided to not work. But it put me at place 17 on speedrun.com for THAT SPECIFIC aspect

fervent radish
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makes sense

twin thistle
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bouldy it cant be that unused

dusty charm
rustic vale
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I wonder if most zag runners run modded or not

fervent radish
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it actually is

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unmodded unseeded

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14 minutes places at 17th

latent moon
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i mean zag sword is another ME aspect so no one really wants to run that lmao

rustic vale
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Not to dash your hopes or anything but everyone who would run zag sword just runs nemesis instead

latent moon
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and no one wants to reset for rd and hammer for plume

fervent radish
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for comparison, my eris time is 46th

twin thistle
fervent radish
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yeah it is

dusty charm
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I mean. Doing all swords aspect

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least would still put me in top 160

rustic vale
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Are you still looking at unmodded

dusty charm
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yea

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Comparing with Zag sword and nemesis. I would be 97

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Huh

rustic vale
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And it’s not like every speedrunner is posting every run

dusty charm
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Comparing my zag run with nemisis I would be 79

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and to be clear. I am assuming people post their best runs on speedruns.com. So im comapring to that. And I do relize a lot of people might have gotten better runs that they dont post. Either cause I did not know how fast it was, or care about postin gon there.

rustic vale
devout terrace
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the site sucks

dusty charm
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However. I am a egocentric boi and enjoy jerking my own ego.

rustic vale
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I know it sucks but who decided to never fix it bouldy

dusty charm
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So I will take what I can and assume the best option for me

devout terrace
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can we go back to SDA

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on god

dusty charm
devout terrace
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gods even

devout terrace
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you prolly werent around for this but the leaderboards used to be ranking every individual person

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not every individual run

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the current system is really demotivating imo

rustic vale
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tizomg yikes

devout terrace
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but it was forced because of site changes

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not our choice

dusty charm
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Yo, your the person who beat 64 heat Wow

rustic vale
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Angel kinda crazy with it

rustic vale
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Angel can you like just airdrop me some skill šŸ™

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Holy I just want to check zagbows 40 hest clears could

devout terrace
twin thistle
devout terrace
dusty charm
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With all respect a you deserve it. But whats with trans woman being gods at games. Keep finding you girls being on top in different games ThinkingBard

devout terrace
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because no one bothered to play something that boring

rustic vale
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I wonder how many top10 speedruns for their respective aspect include a bathroom break

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Given it’s igt

devout terrace
dusty charm
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At one point the worlds best Kata player in LoL was a trans woman as well friend of mine

rustic vale
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I’m giving up on seeing zagbow 40 heat leaderbosrd on speedrun.com

dusty charm
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How the hell do you do sub 10 with bow on that much heat

dusty charm
twin thistle
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Easiest 4th place ever

dusty charm
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Well you would need to ocmplete the run to KEKW

rustic vale
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Guys it’s time for me to sub 7 on 40 heat zah bow

dusty charm
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I belive in you

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I do not belive in him

rustic vale
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my best zag bow run is sub10

dusty charm
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I can not speed run the bow

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brain no allow

twin thistle
rustic vale
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I just need to be 30% faster while accounting added heat

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ez

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For sure.

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It definitely didn’t take me a lot of hours just to get my sub10

dusty charm
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I want to do a run. were I lower my HP as much as possible.

rustic vale
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just run guan-yu at level 1

dusty charm
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Saddly I maxxed it ages ago

devout terrace
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latt is famous for grinding zag bow

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in pretty much every difficulty category

dusty charm
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Everyone here with their high heat

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and im here with god mode, no heat spamming runs without even thinking.

rustic vale
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The higher heat is just one aspect of that screenshot bouldy

dusty charm
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I really dont have the patience for heat runs anymore

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I got my statue im out

rustic vale
#

That build was so cursed

latent moon
#

speedrun high heat

rustic vale
#

Zeus zag bow

twin thistle
#

Just get to a point where you just do 32+ by default because you dont die anyways bouldy

rustic vale
#

Just run hl32

dusty charm
#

Im not skilled enough for actively doing above 20 heats

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Also no reason for me to do it as it dont give more darkness.

rustic vale
#

Tbh at your goal anything more than 10 heat is unnecessary difficulty and anytjing lower is just slower

dusty charm
#

Yea

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I do wish there was other things I could work towards while I grind

rustic vale
#

speed and heat bouldy

dusty charm
#

I do speed and heat now and then. But then I am dedicating runs to it.

rustic vale
#

It’s still darkness at the same time

dusty charm
#

Yea

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I do it now and then to break up the patterns

#

Actually there might be one other thing left.

rustic vale
#

could work towards taking off the godmode? Idk

devout terrace
#

50 heat speed my beloved

dusty charm
#

Ive been starting to get new lines for Achiles and his bf

latent moon
#

i haven't done 50 heat speed before lmao every time i try on beo i just die

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on like normal 50 heats

dusty charm
rustic vale
#

~ ig

#

As someone who regularly plays heat, no heat leaves you unreasonably tanky

dusty charm
#

Your right

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but like I aid. I often play when im barely alive after work.

rustic vale
#

Fair

dusty charm
#

I dont have energy to think. I press button and numbers happens

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Tho admittedly. As ive done so many brain off god mode runs

#

Ive gotten worse at the game KEKW

glossy lynx
#

So I'm on the cusp of 100% completion. All that's left is the Keepsake achievement.

#

... Does the bot always do that?

rustic vale
#

It’s semiregularly

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Tries to keep it at the bottom of chat so the hades 2 players see it and stay where they’re supposed to

glossy lynx
#

Ahhh, I see.

#

Feels like I've triggered that with every post I've made here.

dusty charm
jagged hamlet
#

So long as you don't make any sudden moves, you've nothing to fear from StickyBot. Do not sneeze

devout terrace
#

its the best category

latent moon
#

True skill issue

#

Lately I've been messing around with ri bc I thought it'd be funny

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I'll do 50 heat speed next time I play

glossy lynx
#

I'm not attempting higher than 32

mint coral
#

that's what we all said

jagged hamlet
#

There is no escape

latent moon
#

I went past 32 bc after speedrunning so long I found 32 to be too easy

dusty charm
#

I escaped the high heat runs

latent moon
#

And so was 40 so I did 50 lmao

dusty charm
#

Its better

#

Its mentally happier

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And then I went and ruined that by playing LoL

devout terrace
rustic vale
#

I went to my switch to play Hades and came across my pokemon sword game where I’m grinding out a modest toxel bouldy

#

Guys it’s only 1/25 chance how long can it take

cloud mist
#

an
eternity

jagged hamlet
#

500 eggs, but first you'll get a shiny with Adamant

devout terrace
glossy lynx
#

I was gonna say (but I triggered the swearing filter), that I had two reactions, separated by 15 seconds.

#

The first, was to say "oh hey, trans pride flag PFP, based".
The second was "oh wait, that's the chick who did 64 Heat!"

devout terrace
#

hahaha

mint coral
#

Angel's pfp is really good

rustic vale
#

I was about to say something about what a really good pfp would be then remembered mine

jagged hamlet
#

I'm just a humble squirrel with an apple, I am

brisk trail
#

I like Skelly’s voice

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And Dusa’s

jagged hamlet
#

Boyo.

plain junco
#

is snow burst good w aspect of hera

jagged hamlet
#

Yes. Very

plain junco
#

or do you have to replace it with other casts

#

okay ty

reef zodiac
#

It isn’t a cast boon

#

You can still use another cast (crush shot)

brisk trail
#

Is ambrosia supposed to be like honey?

#

It’s like nectar right?

#

I never ate any

plain junco
#

okay so should I go concentrated volley, pb shot or explosive shot

#

w Hera

plain junco
jagged hamlet
#

Take Point-Blank

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Or Peanut Butter. Whichever's relevant

brisk trail
#

Mmmmmm peanut butter

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Will go perfectly with my embrosia

#

smears peanut butter on Cerberus’s noses

regal epoch
#

What are the requirements for the second ending

rustic vale
regal epoch
#

How do you get that much Ambrosia?

rustic vale
regal epoch
#

Oh ok

rustic vale
#

and you don’t need them gifted with ambrosia

regal epoch
#

Ohhhhhh

rustic vale
#

you just need to complete the fsvours

#

Either way it’s not a lot of ambrosia

twin thistle
#

You can get at least 1 ambrosia every run by upping the heat

regal epoch
#

BC I need the Ambrosia for than and cerebus

regal epoch
#

I've got 4 Ambrosia so far

queen monolith
next ledge
jagged hamlet
#

It's cosmetic

queen monolith
stoic summit
#

what is that thing that shows time split for each section? is that a mod?

jagged hamlet
#

Yes

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Speedrun Modpack, as it turns out

stoic summit
#

is getting mods difficult

jagged hamlet
#

Dunno, not having tried it myself, but I've heard that it's not terribly difficult

stoic summit
#

ive gotten mods for a few other games so im not completely clueless but games are different and i forget easy

brisk trail
#

Day 1 of waiting for family guy to make a Hades reference

old bluff
regal epoch
#

How do you get the titan blood to max out every aspect

#

How do you get that much?

woeful spruce
#

anyone can help me out with nyx locked heart? ||ive done the whole convo between nyx and chaos but im suppose to buy an item from contractor but theres no item to be bought? nyx hasnt given me any new dialogue for atleast 10 runs already same with chaos|| what am i missing?

latent moon
regal epoch
latent moon
latent moon
regal epoch
#

I've got to the credits

latent moon
#

before you clear you're prompted with the pact of punishment

rustic vale
latent moon
#

you have to keep beating the previous heat difficulty to get bounties

twin thistle
latent moon
#

oh bruh lmfao

rustic vale
#

The rest come from prophecies, trading and fishing

regal epoch
#

Ok

#

Ohhhhhh

#

I've had it maxed out on one heat

regal epoch
#

And wdym trading

rustic vale
#

Trade broker in the lounge

regal epoch
#

Oh yea

brisk trail
#

Love that you can trade

#

Traded in my kid for some titan blood

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

Hades: ā€œDarknessā€

queen monolith
#

after hours i realized that i probably couldnt finish all aegis hammers because i only use the zeus variant. can the beowolf variant get the remaining hammers that zeus variant cant get? i supposed they are related to shield throws.

#

so i can try to get 2 fates in one

fervent radish
#

(But also based Zeus shield user)

rustic vale
fervent radish
#

Oh good point

#

I’ve never played chaos special that much so I wouldn’t know

rustic vale
fervent radish
#

Yeah

#

Realistically you shouldn’t be using the special on a shield that isn’t Zeus

queen monolith
#

its one of the easiest runs

fervent radish
#

Real

#

You should up the heat

#

One of the most ideal aspects for pushing heat

obsidian drum
stoic summit
#

so....32 heat run, should be easy right?

rich fjord
#

What is the base chance to get a duo or legendsry

rich fjord
#

Man

twin thistle
# rich fjord Man

Its per slot btw. If you have all your cores filled and arent offered a replacement its 12% rolled 3 times

#

So more like 32%

fervent radish
twin thistle
#

Or 23% if you have cores unfilled

rich fjord
#

Wait if i have zeus atk, special, dash and cast for example

#

Is the percentage 4 times?

latent moon
#

given good pact and build

fervent radish
#

So if a core is not filled it will offer that core, and then any remaining choices will be eligible to roll leg/duo

rich fjord
#

Oh i see

stoic summit
#

is cold fusion good?

sleek cliff
#

cuz like jolted is already good af

#

and being able to keep it active for especially like multi attacks is even more damage

fervent radish
steep gate
#

is the number of encounters on a floor random? sometimes my keepsakes will say it completed 11 at the end of tartarus, and sometimes it says 14

rustic vale
#

the boss fight for tartarus is always at chamber 12 iirc

#

but the number of encounters in tartarus is lower

rustic vale
#

then you extend tartarus by 1 chamber

#

but chambers are distinct from encounters, where encounters are fighting rooms

steep gate
#

yeah I know

#

might be mistaken about 14 then

rustic vale
#

almost definitely

#

I may be off by 1 room for tartarus for tartarus but not more than that I know that for certain

#

same thing with the rest of the bosses

#

they're all at certain chamber #'s unless you extend areas via chaos right before the last chamber

#

and Hades is always a random amount given when you get the sack and how many rooms were in your tunnels

#

although the earliest you can get Hades and the latest you can get Hades are both real numbers

steep gate
#

it always feels like 5 + final for non mini boss tunnels and 3-4 + final for mini boss tunnels

obsidian drum
#

buying one thing for the west wing

3 doritos later

the thing is on sale, like if I have never buy it.

rustic vale
#

... that shouldn't've happened

#

did you happen to quit the game?

rustic vale
#

afaik the max chambers in your styx is 33

#

minimum is like

#

9 or 10

obsidian drum
#

I bought the Contraption, Intricate and then I saw it wasn't there when I started the game once again.

rustic vale
#

are you sure you purchased it tizomg

jagged hamlet
#

Did you enter any other room after purchasing the thingy?

obsidian drum
rustic vale
#

huh

obsidian drum
#

(Cannot screenshot it because I'll fight with Charon)

#

Thinking about it, if Charon kills me, I'll make sure in see if the aquarium is there as well.

#

Me letting Charon kill Zagreous

I'm so sorry, babe, I love you.

#

Oh the exit to the Loungue and the aquarium are there, but the Contraption isn't

#

And I know I spent 300 gems on it, and was placed next to the bone statue

#

ok, I found a weird bug while petting the good boy

rain tundraBOT
rich fjord
#

yeah okay 8 miniboss chamber rerolls and i get every god in my pool except the one i need

#

but thats my fault its a skill thing

rustic vale
rich fjord
#

Hey i thought it was okay if im going for one god build

#

I read a guide that was not my original thought

rustic vale
#

and it's way more valuable to be able to control which boons you get via fated persuasion then which rooms you get via fated authority

rich fjord
#

It told me to spam zeus om zag rail

#

I DIDNT GET DISCHARGE UNTIL ELYSIUM

#

Not even common

rustic vale
#

yeah putting zeus on zeus is good but not

#

not fated authority to try to get more of him good

rich fjord
#

My fault

#

Im honestly js tryna get used to saving rerolls for chaos or hermes

rustic vale
#

and zeus is the best case scenario for wanting to take more of the same gods boons because there are so many good useful options

rich fjord
#

What better way than to rempve rerolls completely

rustic vale
#

I think that's counter intuitive

#

you'll end up forgetting you have them for chaos and hermes

rich fjord
#

I guess so

harsh geyser
# rich fjord NONO it was more of a have fun build

Going for fun builds is pain in the a for me but if you enjoing it, go for it. You would get exact this build like nearly never tho. If you dont mind, then reroll for only one god.
But since it is so random i usually reroll god that i dont want than searching for one that i want. Fated persuasion is better if you want specific boons rather that one god boons.

sleek cliff
#

4 is a lot

#

but sometimes like an aspho roll into purple jolt can be game winning too

rustic vale
#

you want specific boons

#

rather than just

#

gimme something that isn't a heart or an obol

#

the pool you can grab from on gold laurels is so broad

#

rather than quality of the options for boons from gods you know you're getting

jagged hamlet
#

Everyone's faces have such striking cheekbones! Except maybe Artemis and Hermes

mild hemlock
#

Hey I need help I want to 100% the game but right now it seems impossible. I have over 100 escape attempts with maxed out relations with majority of the cast in the game only missing Patroclus & Demeter not maxed out while Meg & Aphrodite still having a locked heart (I know I need Meg to unlock Aphrodite). I've looked at a few guides and it says I just have to get lucky with unlocking Meg's heart but I don't understand with over 100 attempts it not being available yet. Is there something I need to buy from the construction shades, use a specific weapon/boon on a run? I have no idea what to do please help me.

rich isle
#

can anyone give me some tips on how to beat elysium without taking damage/ as less damage as possible? I'm doing fresh file runs so its stygina blade no matter what

harsh geyser
#

Maybe some other characters are blocking you, but shouldnt as far as i know

rustic vale
#

It is literally just random rng dialogues for when she shows up in your room and a) takes her stuff back, then b) a second dialogue where she’s in your room again

#

rng dialogue happens to have been the bane of quite a few Hades players over the years

slender spruce
#

waht's a good Dionysus build

mental turret
#

I frankly use god mode at 80. The only wayI can play and havr fun

tepid plover
slender spruce
#

how does damage reduction stacking works?

#

additively?

#

Bronze Skin + Positive outlook for example

rustic vale
#

You cannot hit 100% damage reduction

tepid plover
#

you can get very, very close with god mode, but yeah

rustic vale
#

You can easily get 51% damage reduction with just weaken and hyper sprint

#

70% damage taken * 70% damage taken = 49% damage taken = 51% reduction

#

Sidenote but broken resolve is the only boon that doesn’t do this, as far as I know it purely adds to the reduction of weaken

#

Meaning it’s a lot stronger than it may appear at first glance

gusty cave
#

why is hestia mid

#

i have it at level one and it ain't doing much

tepid plover
#

thats probably why

spring lotus
#

Because it really sucks when not at max level

gusty cave
#

oh

tepid plover
#

lol

gusty cave
#

so like it's a max it or die

tepid plover
#

sort of

spring lotus
#

^

tepid plover
#

most weapons are like that

gusty cave
#

am struggling atm

#

then what aspcets do you guys suggest for early game?

#

cause my special is acrring me

fervent radish
fervent radish
gusty cave
#

How do you kill chiron

mint coral
#

Joke aside, just keep trying the fight whenever it shows up

#

Charon patterns are really telegraphed

#

If you want the wins for the hermes prophecy you can wait for the bag to show up in aspho or elysium

#

Where you'll have more hp/some semblance of a build

#

If you wanna win it early do hestia or similar weapons that only need 1 or 2 boons for their dmg

ripe plume
#

is haylien not on this discord server?

rustic vale
#

Unless he goes by a different discord user name

#

It looks like his account is on the server

#

Last message sent 6 months ago I was still in hiatus from Hades atp

latent moon
#

same with speedrunning discord

tepid plover
#

yeah hes here, just not active

grand mirage
#

demeter used to be my personal favorite, also strong but i dont really like it anymore for an early game prio

lethal stratus
#

Hello

#

šŸ’€

jagged hamlet
#

So long as you harbor no malice or impolite thoughts, you've nothing to fear from StickyBot!

left fox
#

Is there any point to ||resource director?||

left fox
sacred pecan
left fox
tepid plover
#

There's nothing else to use darkness on, so might as well

left fox
#

||what do Erebus gates do?||

mint coral
#

Requires 5/10/15 heat to enter and offers hitless challenges for upgraded rewards

#

Erebus rewards work like styx minibosses so double hp,coins, poms or upgraded rarity on boons

tepid plover
#

But if you get hit once, you get an onion instead

rich fjord
#

xdd this game actually isnt real

#

not even enough gods to fill my pool by the end of elysium

#

just give me money or hearts for all of second and third world please ā˜ļø

left fox
tepid plover
#

so long as you dont get hit, of course is worth

jagged hamlet
#

Don't even think about bothering to think about bothering with Erebus in Elysium though. Basically guaranteed to get onion

mint coral
#

I only do tart erebus

left fox
#

Ah good to know, thank you!

rustic vale
undone inlet
#

made it to elysium for the first time

brisk trail
thorny mural
#

finally done with achievements!! getting bad call was the worst T_T

brisk trail
#

I am confused

#

I’m killing bosses but not getting titan blood or fancy ambrosia anymore

#

Just darkness

#

Do I have to alter the heat gauge?

#

Or change weapons?

jagged hamlet
#

Yep. You get rewards once per boss per weapon per level of heat from 0 heat to 20 heat (21 levels total)

brisk trail
#

I’m just trying to maximize my runs because I know see how grindy the game can get for the ghoul worker stuff next to where hades sits

#

I forgot what it was called

brisk trail
twin thistle
#

Like if you skipped 1 heat on a weapon and did 8 heat instead you need to do 2+ for the loots next time

brisk trail
#

Hmm I will see what I can do

subtle needle
#

did em3 fo2 champions hitless for the first time, first the peak now the felled off

brisk trail
plain junco
#

if I go from beating hades with two heat to like for example fourteen heat will I still get bounties?

#

not saying that I am, too hard for me atm

jagged hamlet
#

Yep. You'll get the bounties for 3 heat upon your first clear of 14, then 4, then 5, etc.

grand mirage
#

there are 20 bounties per weapon so yeah

#

its not like you will not get any bounties once you do more than 20 heat, but afaik if you havent cleared a bounty but you cleared a run with a higher heat than what's the bounty is recommending you can still get it

jagged hamlet
#

21! Can't forget heat level 0

grand mirage
#

oh true

plain junco
#

asking bc it says ā€œheat gauge too fullā€ and like you can’t earn extra bounties

latent moon
#

you just get the same reward

plain junco
#

oh ok

gusty cave
#

guys what diamond upgardes should i get in the house contractor?

split sand
split sand
next ledge
#

PREMIUM VINTAGE IS THE BEST BOON! And that by far far far. If you dont know what boon the ultimate premium vintage is, its the one that makes it so that if you pick up nectar you gain more max health. AND ITS AMAZING! These moments when you got the chance between a centaur heart and nectar, and your like ā€œwhy not bothā€. BUT THATS NOT ALL! Premium vintage also gives you a nectar instantly, where the effect already applies. So you have moments where you can choose between a centaur heart, nectar or dionysus and your like ā€œwhy not all threeā€. Or when you give Dionysus nectar and he is a real bro, the dude gives you back your nectar, gives you health AND makes it so future nectar also give health. Shout out to the best boon EVER! React nectar if you are smart and know that premium vintage is the best boon, and makes Dionysus the best god! I really hope they make something like that in Hades II.

tepid plover
#

you really should edit the heart and nectar part, since thats not possible, otherwise 10/10 copypasta

mint coral
#

The real premium vintage buff is that now troves can rarely give you max hp and a pom dusa

#

And sunken treasure too I think

gusty cave
#

guys any recommanded fist builds

queen monolith
#

i dont understand how learning to play the harp works :x

#

talking to orphy doesnt work, spaming the interaction with the harp doesnt work

#

buying songs also didnt seem to do anything

mint coral
#

And at some thresholds orpheus will talk to you

queen monolith
mint coral
#

Your choice

queen monolith
#

nice

mint coral
#

If you have the time and wanna do it in one go, go for it dusa

queen monolith
#

too bad i cant keep the button pressed

#

i could try to configure something but too lazy :x

mint coral
#

technically is better cuz after talking with orpheus zag takes longer between plays

#

But also 210 times, lol lmao

fervent radish
sacred pecan
#

does Dusa ever get featured houseservant? ;;

vernal jungle
#

how do you unlock demeter's last heart?

#

do you talk to her after the ending

stoic summit
#

bro i had to kill bone hydra with only my special with the sword because of stupid chaos boon

mint coral
rustic vale
mint coral
#

She counts as one of the 6 gods needed for it when reaching the lock for that reason

rustic vale
fervent radish
#

Still a tough situation but yeah

stoic summit
#

oh yeah im super good at not taking 1 single hit in the hydra fight when there are tons of attacks lol

fervent radish
#

What were the other chaos curses btw

mint coral
#

Or what was the boon for the attack curse

ripe plume
reef zodiac
#

Wait what

stoic summit
fervent radish
stoic summit
#

yeah but i kept getting the stupid rooms that didnt count as encounters so by the time i reached bone hydra i needed 1 more encounter

fervent radish
#

ig, but i wouldn't take that curse on the sword at all. so the other two options were prob better regardless

stoic summit
#

nah im pretty sure they were some like coins and darkness trash

#

not that those are trash but i was needing dif boons

fervent radish
#

ig, but sometimes you have to just pick the least bad curse

stoic summit
#

well i didnt think it would last all the way to the stupid boss fight

#

i ended up dying to hades anyway

fervent radish
#

it's painful to go through any room with that curse tho

grand mirage
#

i just got ares prophecy recently, do i really need to do 10k more kills even though i alr exceeded it or do i just need to seek him out?

mint coral
#

Just seek him

still pivot
#

I am replaying Hades and trying this time with Hell Mode. Hoping I don’t regret it later!

heavy burrow
#

ive burnt myself out on the game again

#

i do that way too easily

#

i returned to the game and played an extra like 40 or 50 hours and ofcourse now i dont wanna play it anymore

#

im glad i managed to complete the main story though

mellow herald
#

whats the best music u guys always listen in hades ?

mint coral
#

Fav tracks also include bloodless/unseen ones/in the blood for me tho

reef zodiac
#

Scourge of the Furies and On The Coast

grand mirage
#

on the coast my beloved

jagged hamlet
#

Scourge of the Furies is great!

fervent radish
#

I mute the in game music…

mint coral
#

Oh yeah on the coast is beautiful

tight cloak
#

Why it’s so damn hard to farm Gemstones

#

Jeez there is only one that gives like 1k

#

Kinda suxx ngl

grand mirage
#

Poseidon's Ocean Bounty and Chaos' Eclipse are your only hope

ripe plume
mint coral
#

It is

ripe plume
#

I just spent the last 3 hours looking at documentaries of supergiant games.

#

Esp the art music and story

rich fjord
#

do miniboss rooms outside of styx have higher rarity boons?

mint coral
rich fjord
#

huh thats weird

rich fjord
mint coral
#

And higher odds for epic/lower for duos and legendaries

lethal matrix
#

Did anyone see the new Hades merch that supergroupies is selling?

cunning pecan
cunning pecan
#

Also kinda really pricey ngl

lethal matrix
#

Call me cringe if you want but I saw it and had to get the jacket and watch

#

Yeah. Definitely

cunning pecan
#

The watch is fire but again, only us and ca 😭

rich fjord
#

do i need to fill out the 3 extra hearts after max nectar on the three lovers for aphro's favor?

lethal matrix
#

You need to have all hearts maxed for all three

brisk trail
#

Getting only 5 gemstones at a time

#

However I think the house contractor and prophecies can help

#

I don’t know how far each of us are in the game either

tight cloak
#

Man you finish a whole run for 70 gemstones

#

Darn it

grand mirage
brisk trail
#

I just want titan blood and gems

grand mirage
#

better than nothing though

brisk trail
#

Bouldy my beloved

#

Maybe there are gems inside bouldy

#

Like he’s a geode

grand mirage
#

if you really want to grind you have to roll for chaos

#

since he gives the best buff for grinding

tight cloak
brisk trail
#

I wish you could cook the cosmic egg so binging with babish would have to make a hades cooking video

tight cloak
#

how can I get the flurry jab

brisk trail
#

Time to grind for gems at work

mint coral
#

and don't take any of the spin hammers

tight cloak
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and didn’t get a hammer yet

mint coral
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well, be luckier

tight cloak
mint coral
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lmfao

tight cloak
mint coral
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correct

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pressing give up reverts the save before the run happened

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so anything done mid run doesn't count

tight cloak
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Jeez

tight cloak
mint coral
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ye

rich fjord
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does splittng headacho work on damage sources with 0% crit

rich fjord
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unless pressure points right

mint coral
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yeah pp makes splitting work with everything

rich fjord
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can hangover crit

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with pp

mint coral
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yeah

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pp works with any dmg from zag

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except explosive return cuz uh

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yeah

brisk trail
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Pp

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Hehehe

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You guys said Pp

split sand
split sand
fervent radish
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Gets annoying to play a reset/death heavy run and listen to tart music for an hour

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I keep sfx on though

rustic vale
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Real, @Hadesdevs release a patch that makes the game music just as captivating when you’re a couple hundred hours in tizomg

undone inlet
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looks nice

rustic vale
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actually I can’t say much, I’m not normally a game music listener, since I typically listen to video essays at the same time