h1-discussion

[reef zodiac]

No

[latent moon]

3rd rail aspect

[rustic vale]

big timesave with no questions asked, unlike shadow presence

[latent moon]

backstab on most things is also hot garbage lmao
for a lot of stuff, that first hit is way stronger
the first hit is also more consistent than a backstab

like hestia, which we just mentioned

[twin thistle]

Playing h2 makes me miss dark foresight

[latent moon]

it really does

rip dark foresight, you will be missed

[reef zodiac]

I almost wanted to make a suggestion for them to add a dark foresight

[stoic summit]

but its only on the first hit right? after the first hit they become damaged? am i tripping? maybe you guys are looking at it from a persepctive of higher skill idk

[rustic vale]

Guys playing RI2 makes me miss dark foresight

[reef zodiac]

Yes you’re correct

[rustic vale]

it’s exactly that

[reef zodiac]

You know it often only takes one hit

They can’t be damaged if they’re dead

[twin thistle]

Fiery presence lets you oneshot a lot of tart enemies more easily

[stoic summit]

only tart enemies?

[twin thistle]

Which is a pretty big time save for speedruns and heat

[rustic vale]

it’s a speed and somewhat a heat thing for most aspects

[stoic summit]

what about bosses

[latent moon]

the backstab is really only relevant against bosses, and even then you're not really aiming for backstabs most of the time

[rustic vale]

Your build takes care of it atp

[reef zodiac]

What do you think lmao

[stoic summit]

theseus

[latent moon]

and the backstab on most weapons aren't really relevant to begin with

[twin thistle]

+50% additive backstab damage is not a lot for most weps/aspects

[rustic vale]

shadow presence is too picky and not enough damage to warrant it over the timesave of oneshotting a ton more enemies

[stoic summit]

but +75% one time is?

ah okay i see i see

[reef zodiac]

Yes because it’s every time

First time every time

[latent moon]

the only aspects that would care about backstab would be like rama, zagbow, cshot, and hestia
and even then you'd rather take fiery bc it decimates normal rooms

[rustic vale]

Yes. Taking an enemy from needing 2 hits to kill to needing one… is super valuable

It’s like hydraulic might

[stoic summit]

ight ight ill use this new mirror set up to beat 16 heat fr fr

[rustic vale]

Which is useful because it’s active for the most crucial part of every room, and the part of every room you’ll always see

[twin thistle]

Have you speedran or done +32 heat with td3

[stoic summit]

um...no

[reef zodiac]

Fiery is basically useless on DC2 pacts tho

[stoic summit]

wait so whats better ruthless reflex or the other one?

[twin thistle]

Well tart times are valued a lot more at higher levels of play

[rustic vale]

Greater reflex

[twin thistle]

Greater in like 95% of cases

[stoic summit]

i thought so

[rustic vale]

It’s the part where you’ve got the least, so it’s helping the most

[latent moon]

true i switch to shadow on rama but i keep fiery on zeus (aphro special)

[reef zodiac]

Like if I do ME sword or fists, I do DC2

[latent moon]

in the screenshot i sent, i was on ruthless bc i was running a meme pact/mirror

[reef zodiac]

So I just run shadow

[rustic vale]

Um actually it’s 95.8333333333333333333333333% of cases

[latent moon]

that's fair

but i dont use sword or fists on high heat so idrk lmao

[reef zodiac]

Or Eris, Luci, Chiron

[rustic vale]

Chiron

[reef zodiac]

I’ve been working on 45 on all aspects

[latent moon]

i've only done 40 on those and i think in only did dc2 on fists? but i was too lazy to switch from fiery to shadow lmao

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I hate it too don’t worry

[rustic vale]

I forgot to switch from fiery to shadow for my zag rail run but

I doubt it would’ve made a difference

[reef zodiac]

I also like to run AP0 whenever possible, which it definitely is possible at 45 heat

[stoic summit]

what should i do for 16 heat? everytime ive tried i die and its mad annoying, usually to hades

[latent moon]

true

[rustic vale]

How fast are you clearing your games right now

[twin thistle]

What have you been trying with

[rustic vale]

and do you have any of the speed dibilitating pacts on (jury summons, calisthenics program, damage control)

[stoic summit]

i have a 0 heat rnm not sure whats best

[reef zodiac]

Also are you using EM4, Routine Inspection, or Approval Process

[stoic summit]

sword, or spear or fists or bow generally

[rustic vale]

Oh you’re heading straight from 0 to 16?

[stoic summit]

just trying to do the easiest or safest or most guaranteed 16 heat

well ive done 8

maybe a littler higher but ive just been getting darkness because i keep dyihng at higher heats

[reef zodiac]

At 16 you will be fine with anything, but if you want a suggestion for a strong easy weapon, I suggest Hestia

[rustic vale]

you do know that bounties are tracked by the minimum heat available

[stoic summit]

yeah, darkness

right...?

[rustic vale]

?

[stoic summit]

um...

like for getting darkness

i dont need heat

[rustic vale]

Yeah

[stoic summit]

right?

yeah

fr

[rustic vale]

I mean

[twin thistle]

Well you kinda want titan blood

[rustic vale]

I’d recommend 10 heat for darkness farming but that’s an unrelated story

not the task at hand

[stoic summit]

i mean yeah but ive gotten a bit and i kept dying...

i want the stupid skelly statue

[rustic vale]

Which aspects are you using most

[stoic summit]

sword, first one

[rustic vale]

oh.

that

[stoic summit]

...

[rustic vale]

explains a bit

[twin thistle]

Uh are you using the sword standing combo

[rustic vale]

… indeed

[stoic summit]

what should i be using...

[twin thistle]

The dash strike

[rustic vale]

Dash strike like crazy

Like most weapons in Hades

[reef zodiac]

The best combo is special -> dash strike -> dash strike

[stoic summit]

?

im confused

[rustic vale]

Unananas

[stoic summit]

yeah dash strike

[rustic vale]

You have that clip from the other day?

[stoic summit]

can sword not dash strike or smth?

[rustic vale]

It can

[stoic summit]

so i shouldnt use sword?

[rustic vale]

And it’s what you want to be using

[twin thistle]

Uh i have this https://imgur.com/a/kQakWMb

[reef zodiac]

No, you can

[rustic vale]

!?!

[stoic summit]

yeah im dash striking

what did i say to imply i wasnt?

[rustic vale]

Yeah you want to be dash striking for all your hits and just avoid the standing combo

[rustic vale]

.

[stoic summit]

wait

when i said first one did you guys think i meant first attack with the sword?

[rustic vale]

this made it sound like “yes I do use standing strike what should I ve using instead”

[stoic summit]

no i meant like in the reveal aspects thing

oh lol

so im just trash

[rustic vale]

which is why we said dash striking

the sword aspects, you should be using nem

The one with crit chance

[stoic summit]

okay bet, i dont have that upgraded at all should i buy titan blood?

[twin thistle]

Just do lower heats

[rustic vale]

You can run it at level 1 and it will be better than aspdct of zagreus

also

fill out your lower heat bounties

[twin thistle]

If you like bow could start with zag bow since its cheap to max

[rustic vale]

get the easier titan blood

[stoic summit]

blade is at 7 rn is that bad?

[rustic vale]

7 as in you’ve cleared 0, 1-7 with it?

[stoic summit]

i think so, i need 7 heat to get bountikes

[rustic vale]

Or 7 as in yiu skipped up to

Ok

[stoic summit]

if i skip do i lose bounties?

[rustic vale]

I was asking given you were planning on reaching straight to 16

No you just make it harder on yourself

[stoic summit]

oh okay

[rustic vale]

since you did a 7 heat bounty with 16 heat

[stoic summit]

should i work all the way up? thats like mad work ngl

[rustic vale]

Anyways have you gotten blood from other weapons up to the same~range heats?

[stoic summit]

i have 3 weapons at 3 i think, shield, rail and something else, and then the other lowest was 6

[rustic vale]

I mean the other option is cranking it straight to 20+ rn and running 13 more runns to get the rest of the bounties at harder difficulties

You either get that titan blood easily at lowest heat required or you choose to get it at harder heats for who knows why or you just don’t get it if ykwim

[stoic summit]

wait im confused lets say i need 3 heat to get the bounties but i do 4 heat, do i lose the ability to get the bounty from 3 heat and therfore lose it?

[rustic vale]

no you get the bounties for 3 heat

So

There wasn’t any real point to it being 4 heat

aside from making the game harder

[stoic summit]

bounties?

[rustic vale]

the resources

blood diamonds ambrosia

[stoic summit]

this is saying i dont need any heat for the rail, ive beaten it with rail though

[rustic vale]

You cannot skip past heat levels

[stoic summit]

wait nvm

[twin thistle]

Its the same as if you did it at 3 heat basically except harder. Dont lose rewards or anything, the game treats it as if you cleared on 3 reward wise

[rustic vale]

Heat 0 is different and doesn’t count but

[stoic summit]

i havent beaten it with 0 heat before lol

or have i? im confused

[rustic vale]

I didn’t want to have to explain that midway thru explaining regular heat

because I was worried I’d confuse you

[stoic summit]

okay i think i understand

so ambrosia is harder to get than titan blood so instead of buying titan blood i should just do bounties expecally since ill do them eventually

[rustic vale]

for everything beyond 0 heat, you always get bounties for the lowest heat you haven’t cleared, regardless of how much heat you run

[stoic summit]

oh okay

[rustic vale]

No, it’s because running the easier heats to get more titans blood is just more efficient atm

[stoic summit]

i kinda just want to do 16 heat though...

i can win...

[rustic vale]

I guess but part of that means we want to set you up with the strongest head start

[stoic summit]

how would one go about doing that without doing escape attempts?

[twin thistle]

Uh what aspects do you have leveled

Also how much of the mirror do you have unlocked

[rustic vale]

which probably just means, take your favourite/best weapon, level up as high as you can it’s best (or one of it’s best) aspects, and then get a build and go

[stoic summit]

full mirror, kinda random aspects leveled

[rustic vale]

build being (mirror, heat pact, boons you’lk be getting, hammers, keepsakes)

[stoic summit]

(basically full mirror)

okay so nem sword

i got my mirror situated

how should i do the pact?

[twin thistle]

How fast are your clears usually

[rustic vale]

(in game time)

[stoic summit]

uh like idk 25 minutes on a slow one

(it only shows one time?)

[rustic vale]

yeah but the clock stops as real life passes on so

I wanted to clairify

[stoic summit]

kk

[rustic vale]

You can easily run tight deadline 2 for 3 heat

[stoic summit]

yeah i saw on a screenshot 2 timers so i thought that was supposed to me normal

but for 16 heat?

[rustic vale]

Tight deadline 2 is 3 heat when you turn it on

I’m going

Pact by pact here

[stoic summit]

oh okay

[twin thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1164101586138710037/1247744793501499424/Screenshot_20240604_195205_Chrome.jpg?ex=66612464&is=665fd2e4&hm=b4cfd0245f298127b7cc9a10b925754cc57a35518e27976162f246d8af7c2b4a& could do a pact like this ig

[rustic vale]

That’s a way easier way to recommend it than what I was about to do

[tepid plover]

Em3 really is free heat

[rustic vale]

I mean tbf

[stoic summit]

yeah...for sure

ight ill run this and beat it easy

should i use acorn?

[tepid plover]

Yes

[rustic vale]

em3 is the least evil here

[rustic vale]

Not to start your run

[stoic summit]

i only have skelly companion

[twin thistle]

Switch to acorn biome 3 and keep it for 4

[tepid plover]

Outside of em4, accorn is goated

[stoic summit]

okay what should i start with?

[latent moon]

acorn is still good in em4

[twin thistle]

Just dont get bballed

Or sneked

[stoic summit]

spearpoint?

[latent moon]

start with aphrodite

get her attack

[rustic vale]

Start with a god you want

[tepid plover]

I don't like it. Both ball and doomstone can delete it

[rustic vale]

Here being aphrodite

[latent moon]

or her special if you get cringed out of it at the start

[tepid plover]

You want to start with a god

[twin thistle]

In general you use two god keepsakes for tart and aspho

[tepid plover]

Certainly not spearpoint lol

[stoic summit]

okay ares seems like a good choice?

[rustic vale]

The most useful thing you can give yourself is the two most important gods for your aspect/buid-

[twin thistle]

Ares is good if you want to do ME but otherwise aphro for heartrend/smouldering air

[tepid plover]

What's sneked? The sneak?

[twin thistle]

Yeah

[stoic summit]

whats ME

[twin thistle]

Merciful end

[stoic summit]

ah fr

[rustic vale]

Ares just happens to be good on sword thankd to Merciful End but if you hadn’t factored in Merciful End I’m mega concerned for you

[stoic summit]

what if i dont get the aprodite boons i need?

[tepid plover]

Then reroll

[stoic summit]

what if i still dont get it?

[rustic vale]

You find them later. It’s literally just aphrodite strike and 3/4 of the time you’ll see thst first boon

[twin thistle]

If rerolling doesnt get you her attack then you can go for her special

[tepid plover]

Then you don't, and make do

[stoic summit]

i got deadelus hammer...

[rustic vale]

Cool

Take it

[twin thistle]

What it giving

[rustic vale]

You’ll see aphrodite later

[stoic summit]

cursed slash, breaching slash, world spliter

[rustic vale]

she’s forced in thanks to your keepsake

[rustic vale]

Dang

Breaching slash

[stoic summit]

...

[rustic vale]

That’s a sad hammer

I mean breaching is good

[stoic summit]

should i take chaos?

[rustic vale]

Yes

[twin thistle]

Ye

[tepid plover]

Sometimes the game doesn't give you the stuff you want, it happens, you just gotta adapt, I'd know about that

[stoic summit]

i thought so, can his boons be garbage?

[twin thistle]

Yeah but they can also carry your run

[rustic vale]

yes, but they can also be the holy grail for your build so

[stone rune]

generally though you can manipulate what you get to be in your favor

[tepid plover]

Chaos often times is more good than bad

[stoic summit]

these suck...

[rustic vale]

Options?

[stoic summit]

slothful shot

[rustic vale]

Nope

[stoic summit]

slippery eclipse

[rustic vale]

eh

[stoic summit]

caustic soul

...

[rustic vale]

Dang that’s unfortunate

[twin thistle]

What was caustic

[tepid plover]

Soul is alright

[rustic vale]

This is why we use fated persuasion

[stoic summit]

inferno bomb thows

for 34 plus health

4 encounters

[twin thistle]

Yeah just do that and dont get hit

[stoic summit]

i have one reroll

[rustic vale]

Eh that’d not the worst thing in the world

[tepid plover]

Inferno bombs are literally free, they don't even go for you most of the time

[stoic summit]

so i shouldnt re-roll?

[twin thistle]

Yeah sword is mobile if youre dash striking

Yeah just take caustic soul

[stoic summit]

ight bet

[tepid plover]

Hp is never bad

[rustic vale]

It’d be really nice to get a strike or dash strike boon but caustic soul is kinda just value so

[tepid plover]

Do you want dmg? Of course, but can't go wrong with hp

[rustic vale]

don’t go throwing away silver for fake gold

[stoic summit]

okay what am i looking for aprodite?

[rustic vale]

guys this is why I don’t write sayings

[rustic vale]

Her strike boon

[stoic summit]

attack that deals weak?

inflicts*

[tepid plover]

Go back to posting gifs shackle, tell me why dash strike bow is superior

[rustic vale]

Attack that deals the highest +% in the gsme

[stone rune]

S{

[tepid plover]

Yes

Aphro has the highest scaling dmg %

[stoic summit]

it has no rarity bruh

[rustic vale]

Don’t worry about it

[tepid plover]

Rarity is a bait

[rustic vale]

50% is 50%

[latent moon]

common aphro attak is better than rare athena and demeter lmao

[stone rune]

are you saying its not

[tepid plover]

Shackle understood (probaly) don't worry

[rustic vale]

Anyways this is why we run god’s pride

[rustic vale]

No he’s memeing on me

For something else

[tepid plover]

[stone rune]

idk anything anymore

[stoic summit]

isnt zues good?

[rustic vale]

I’ve got one bow clip that I’ve been posting more often than “idk man as”

[stoic summit]

better than charon?

[rustic vale]

Yeah, he’ll be a nice thing to throw on this buikd

Hope for his call

[tepid plover]

What

Oh as in room

[stoic summit]

bruh annoying 2 big fat inferno bomb throwing mini boss bozos

[latent moon]

take the shop so you dont have to do a combat lmao

[twin thistle]

Well they're doing td2

[tepid plover]

Shops = free time for td2

[rustic vale]

~ idk tbh I’d probably take the zeus just to guarantee him in pool

[twin thistle]

So its fine to do a tart combat room

[tepid plover]

True

[rustic vale]

It’s not a speedrun so

[stone rune]

combats are annoying

[stoic summit]

actually they got cooked with breaching slash nice

zeus aid good?

[twin thistle]

Very

[rustic vale]

Zeus aid insanely good, and hard synergises with aphrodite

[latent moon]

smair time

[stoic summit]

nice

[rustic vale]

spam it as soon as you have a 25% call

and reminder

Full calls are a scam

[stoic summit]

really?

i always thought it was better

[twin thistle]

Full zeus/dio call is a waste

[rustic vale]

Yeah but the consistent dps is far more useful

[jagged hamlet]

Plus it's hard to charge to full in most rooms

[rustic vale]

And most rooms you’re getting no where near 100%

[jagged hamlet]

Plus iframes

[twin thistle]

Half your bolts will miss or hit during an invince phase if you do full aid

[rustic vale]

Dionysus, hangover caps at 5 (8)

And the minicall hits 6 times

you don’t need a full call for max value in 95% of cases

[stoic summit]

should i level up aprhodite or zeus aid or does it not really matter over the whole run since ill get more poms

[rustic vale]

Strike

It’s more relevant rn

Remember to factor in diminishing pom returns though

[twin thistle]

Put like 2 poms in attack before you start pomming aid

[stoic summit]

diminishing returns? is that like where it barely levels it up after a certain amount of levels?

[twin thistle]

Yeah

[stone rune]

zeus call gets 1 pom max

[stoic summit]

urge to kill good for ares? i got blade dash and slicing shot for the other ones

[stone rune]

urge to grill

its not good

this is sword right

take blade dash

[stoic summit]

yes

[rustic vale]

96% of boons in Hades suffer from diminishing pom returbs

[stone rune]

all of them do

[rustic vale]

that’s a made up number most of them do

[stoic summit]

is posiedon good? should i buy him in charon shop?

[stone rune]

not if you already have blade dash

if you didnt have blade dash id say to buy pos for tdash

[latent moon]

well considering you cant get his dash anymore pos sucks lmao

[rustic vale]

posiedon in this specific context with your specific boons and gods? No

[stoic summit]

alright im at meg fight

[latent moon]

just win

[stoic summit]

wait really?

[rustic vale]

“Meg fight”

[stoic summit]

oh i thought i was supposed to die

[pliant meadow]

Does Than appear more often after reaching max heart?

Appeared every run since then

[stoic summit]

beat meg, easy

should i switch keepsake?

[jagged hamlet]

Meg friend!

[stoic summit]

not yet, bro still hates me

[rustic vale]

Yep

No reason to keep aphrodites

[latent moon]

switch to zeus for smair/jolted

[rustic vale]

You have aphrodite, zeus, and ares in your god pool?

Or is there one more

[stoic summit]

yes

uh lemme chrck

yes

wait i have to purge one...?

[rustic vale]

what

[tepid plover]

Yes what bruh 🤣

[rustic vale]

Oh underworld customs

[stoic summit]

i only have 3...

[tepid plover]

So no

[stoic summit]

so i should havge gotten poisedon you bozos

[rustic vale]

Purge dasg

[tepid plover]

Yeah bozos

[rustic vale]

It’d be an awkward fit

[jagged hamlet]

Bozos!

[latent moon]

not really bc you have blade dash to sell anyways lmao

the only thing buying pos would do is add him to the pool which is fine i guess but eh

[stoic summit]

kk cool cool

these stupid jumping enemies are mad annoying

[latent moon]

blade dash is still like good but you dont technically need it

[tepid plover]

Welcome to aspho

Xd

[stoic summit]

whats the other good zeus boon i should try to get?

[tepid plover]

Jolted

[latent moon]

yeah jolted

if you get the duo for smoldering air take that first tho lmao

[twin thistle]

Also double strike

then get splitting bolt

[latent moon]

lmao true

[jagged hamlet]

I so wish we had all the keepsake chibis as emojis

[stoic summit]

i got smoldering air, nice

[tepid plover]

I keep forgetting jolted boon name is not actually jolted, and I kid you not, i don't know the name

[latent moon]

gamer

static discharge

[twin thistle]

Welp free win time

[stoic summit]

i also got static discharge as an option

at epic

[twin thistle]

Man actually getting everything

[stoic summit]

smoldering air better?

[tepid plover]

Yes

[twin thistle]

Get smouldering

[jagged hamlet]

Bananas literally just said

[stoic summit]

i have an option for athena or zeus should i go for zues for jolted thing

[twin thistle]

Jolted will reappear a lot more easily and is not as useful without smouldering

Yeah go zeus

[stoic summit]

ugh stupid boat, i swear if i get the stupid fat crystal im gonna die

[runic jungle]

Is ruptured boon worth it bc I'm ngl it seems a tad bit useless compared to Chill and Jolted

[rustic vale]

Static discharge, smoulderiny air, (double strike, high voltage) -> splitting bolt, whatwver the strength after call boon is, in that order

[twin thistle]

Razor shoals? Very good boon

[latent moon]

it's not as good as jolted but it's still good yeah

[stoic summit]

wait it wasnt even bad...

[rustic vale]

razor shoals is decent where static discharge is bonkers

[latent moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1112256563395166248/image.png?ex=6660a565&is=665f53e5&hm=8ea3dcc355458a47dfc196779775c47e06f884f4cd33d6334d1818ad42e50291&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1191&height=670

[stoic summit]

ayy i got static discharge

[latent moon]

razor shoals can do a lot of damage lmao

even if it only procs once, that's still like half a tdash

[tepid plover]

That's literally the main enemy of the encounter lmao

It will always be there

[stoic summit]

not usually...

[latent moon]

depends on the pact

[stoic summit]

wait on higher heat

[latent moon]

if you take middle management or not

[tepid plover]

With the pact thing it does

[twin thistle]

Its always there with middle management

[stoic summit]

oh okay, im mad glad i had breaching slash

[latent moon]

oh yeah breaching slash good for mm barge too

[jagged hamlet]

Razor Shoals vs Elysium's huh huh enemies

[tepid plover]

NOT THE HUH HUH ENEMIES

[stoic summit]

what should i pick for eurydice?

[rustic vale]

Future rarity

[tepid plover]

Nectar

[latent moon]

yeah prob refreshing nectar and hope to get actual good hermes lmao

[twin thistle]

They already have everything though ig there hermes

[latent moon]

yeah take it for hermes

i was gonna say poms but i forgot about hermes lmao

[twin thistle]

Watch them get epic rd

[stoic summit]

heh lol the loot or whatever for the room after is nectar

[latent moon]

they also need a fodder boon for uc i think

[tepid plover]

Heh

[latent moon]

bc it looks like they only have aphro atk, zeus call, smair, and jolted

[runic jungle]

I hope I can get razor shoals when doing one of those challenge things.
Forgot the name of it but it costs like 5 heat to do the challenge.
Is it always gonna be the same task or does it change?

[rustic vale]

I mean the other option is “hey kids it’s time to learn save scumming for rarity”

[tepid plover]

what

[rustic vale]

Erebus rooms always are “get hit and loss the reward”

[tepid plover]

Oh erebus

[jagged hamlet]

Ere🚌

[tepid plover]

Yeha no hit rooms

[runic jungle]

Oh that's kinda lame then lol.
I got so mad at my first room when I got hit once by the last enemy standing

Do you only get one chance per run for erebus rooms or can they appear in different areas

[stoic summit]

what am i looking for with hermes?

[tepid plover]

They reappear all over

[rustic vale]

Farther areas require 5 more heat for each

[tepid plover]

5 in tart, 10 in aspho, 15 in elysium

[runic jungle]

Oh then I will not be doing many of those challenges then

[tepid plover]

Xd

[rustic vale]

Hyper sprint -> rush delivery,
Greatest reflex
Dodge chance
Heal on dash after taking damage
Hermes 2nd bonus move speed boon
In that order

[jagged hamlet]

Butterfly Ball Erebus

[stoic summit]

uh.. can i get all of those?

[tepid plover]

No

[rustic vale]

That’s your priorities

[tepid plover]

Only 2

[twin thistle]

Like 2 of them

Maybe 3 if hermes in styx shop

[stoic summit]

i got epic hyper sprint

[twin thistle]

Grab that

[rustic vale]

You can only get 2 hermes boons but that’s your list of priorities

[tepid plover]

In regular rooms that is

[twin thistle]

Btw do you have any uc fodder

[stoic summit]

do i have a reason to grab artimes from charon shop?

[twin thistle]

Uc fodder yes

[tepid plover]

Yes

To sell

[rustic vale]

Yeah

It’s also

Nrm

Nemesis

So you’ll want her in pool eithbaphro

[stoic summit]

dang epic hunter dash seems kinda good though

[twin thistle]

Heartrend or rod also

[rustic vale]

For crit

[rustic vale]

It is, take it

use it for now, hope to find a better boon to sell,

[runic jungle]

Are the only rewards for erebus challenges the boons that are offered?
I had a dio reward last time.
If there's nothing extra I think I regret spending those diamonds lol

[rustic vale]

You can get hammers hearts and obols iirc

hammers are kinda dumb because nothing changes about them

Every other miniboss reward is somewhat boosted

[stoic summit]

bro this zeus aid is mad good

[rustic vale]

They could at least give erebus hammers a 4th option or something

[stoic summit]

i just fought hydra...

[rustic vale]

That might actually make it worth it to take erebus

[rustic vale]

Ah

Well

140 obols unless you have something less bad to sell

[stoic summit]

obols?

[rustic vale]

Either way with artemus in pool you’ll be getting the crit support boons for your nem strike

[twin thistle]

Gold

[stoic summit]

epic hyper sprint...

[jagged hamlet]

Guy needs to pay more attention

[stoic summit]

i should sell that?

i can re-roll?

[rustic vale]

I wouldb’t plan on it

What are the three options

[stoic summit]

jolted...

and smoldering air...

[rustic vale]

What rarity and level of jolted

[stoic summit]

(static discharge)

epic...

[rustic vale]

Status effect boons are favoured by the game

So

[tepid plover]

Darn, never have I seen a hammer in erebus

[rustic vale]

If you sell it odds are you’ll see it sooner than any other zeus boon

[rustic vale]

I swear I’m not crazy

[stoic summit]

so i should sell jolted

[tepid plover]

I believe you don't worry

Just never seen one myself

[stoic summit]

i would be surprised if he was crazy lol

[rustic vale]

Selling epic jolted is very painful but

You can’t get a second hyper sprint outside of styx

[stoic summit]

sighhhhhhhhhhhh

[tepid plover]

I trust shackle with every inch of my body, he said pressure points work on hangover and I'm dying on that hill

[rustic vale]

You are literally more likely to get a second jolted than any other supporting zeus boon

[stoic summit]

i never said crazy was a bad thing, should i switch keepsake or keep at zeus, that makes sense to keep

[tepid plover]

Never keep God keepsakes lol

[stoic summit]

not for elesyum?

[tepid plover]

Never

[stoic summit]

um...so acron? (i stick by acron)

[tepid plover]

Yes

You're better off with literally anything else

[runic jungle]

Zeus, Artemis and Dio's calls are typically my go to's lately.
I've seen the power a lvl 7 Zeus call has and I am not surprised lol

[stoic summit]

i have 3 star acron so that nice

[rustic vale]

Switch to either
Hourglass (to bring buffs to styx)
Purse (to buy more buffs and boons)
Acorn (to keep yourself safe)
Spear point (to keep yourself safe for more than just boss fights)

[stoic summit]

lol its basicvallt 98% up time for zeus call

[tepid plover]

Yes, smoldering air is busted

[rustic vale]

Lvl 7 zeus call sounds like 4 poms that could’ve been used so much better

[stoic summit]

uh should i take zeus or hammer?

[tepid plover]

Hammer

[stoic summit]

im trusting you

[runic jungle]

I have been way too mean to Artemis ngl
Crit chances are op asf.
The only thing about her I don't like is the support fire one
Depending on the weapon it really doesn't do much lol

[tepid plover]

Don't trust me

Wait for shackle

I'm not as good as him

[rustic vale]

Haha I was about to say I’d take zeus since the game tries to give you hammers but the idea of double edge or piercing wave here is tantalising

I’m also

[stoic summit]

well im in the hammer boons, they better be good 🙂

[rustic vale]

Gojng to need to site a source on the game trying to give you hammers

[runic jungle]

Nah that was one of my most clean runs
And fun.
It was funny watching hades hp get depleted that quickly

[twin thistle]

Until cursed flurry world splitter

[stoic summit]

OOOOHHHH HOARDING SLASH THE BEST HAMMER IN THE GAME...

bruh these suck

[rustic vale]

Yeah the 1/4 odds on getting 3 purelt negatige hammers

[twin thistle]

[rustic vale]

What are your options

[twin thistle]

Yeah maybe shouldve gone zeus

[stoic summit]

hoarding slash, double nova, flurry slash

[jagged hamlet]

How could you be mean to that face?

My goodness what a hammer

[rustic vale]

Double nova vs hoarding slash is a tough one because they’re both ~

I mean

[stoic summit]

nah flurry slash is the best in the game right...

[rustic vale]

double nova’s better if you aren’t me and have the patience to wait for the second h

[rustic vale]

Hahahaahaahahhahaaha

[jagged hamlet]

I unironically enjoy Flurry Slash

[tepid plover]

Damn bro, I'm sorry I baited you, I swear I wouldve gone for hammer myself

[oblique willow]

ok i just asked in story discussion so apologies if crossposting isnt allowed but its more active in this chat. if i choose to "follow my heart" with meg does that stop me from doing the same with than? first time actually getting to this point lol

[rustic vale]

Hold on give me a second to dust off something

[rustic vale]

NopepL

[tepid plover]

He's dusting off the gif

[jagged hamlet]

Imagine breaking Meg's heart

[tepid plover]

Been a couple of hours since last sent

[stoic summit]

ill just take double nova

[rustic vale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1092918262649602058/IMG_3411.png?ex=66467573&is=664523f3&hm=fe4f8f5333b0fb834c0dbf3c1e47aa1805a469b0f7cb5d63760bf1960e4fd59d&

[oblique willow]

I DONT WANNA BUT I ALSO WANNA DATE THAN 😭

im still trying to get him maxed

[rustic vale]

Here’s a secret

Hades (the game) lets u be poly

[stoic summit]

pause, i thought it was just meg

[tepid plover]

Why not both

[jagged hamlet]

Everybody knows Dusa's the only real option

[tepid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/red89z-gif-22986425

[tepid plover]

So no head?

[rustic vale]

Guys the real option is artemis y’all are throwing

[stoic summit]

i dont like dusa

[jagged hamlet]

No: no body

[tepid plover]

And no head

[jagged hamlet]

No, she's just a head

[rustic vale]

reminds me of a dude my cyclops friend was talking about

[oblique willow]

correct. i didnt know the game lets u be poly (the proper answer) and i just wanted to make sure i wouldnt get locked out of dating than

[runic jungle]

Mean as far as boon usefulness goes lol.
I used to rank her down with Hermes and demeter.
I realized how slow I've been

[tepid plover]

Then why no head then

[runic jungle]

I don't even think Hermes is really that bad anymore
Demeter is the main L lol

[jagged hamlet]

Oh you're that guy whom a girl can like superflirt with while you remain completely oblivious

[rustic vale]

Artemis is, like many gods, good is select places and not great if you just throw her on whatever

Wait wait wait wait wait

[oblique willow]

dusa's queerplatonic and i love that for her

[rustic vale]

“Down with HERMES and demeter”

[jagged hamlet]

What does that even mean

[rustic vale]

[old bluff]

What did I come into

[rustic vale]

Hermes is a top tier god he’s also like chaos where it just doesn’t make sense to line him up with the olympians

[jagged hamlet]

Flee, Edward77! Flee for you life!

[runic jungle]

I'm sorry I don't like Hermes that much lol.
There's only like 3 boons of his I really like
Fast attack/special and side hustle.
Movement is kinda nice too but it's not necessary for me idk

[jagged hamlet]

Hermes is literally gamebreaking

[old bluff]

How did you manage to pick the worst possible boons form Hermes

[runic jungle]

Flurry cast is alright too but rng hates me so I don't get that too often

[rustic vale]

You need to be introduced to hyper sprint -> rush delivery and greatest reflex my friend

free giga damage boost to everything or more dashes are both super potent

[oblique willow]

speaking of the romance options. is there a way to guarantee than will show up to fight w/ zag in a chamber? or is that truly just based on the rng

[runic jungle]

Rng luck is garbo with Hermes in particular.

[rustic vale]

That’s what fated persuasion is for

[stoic summit]

AYYY i got static discharge again, epic

and hermes next room okay

[runic jungle]

I don't have that unlocked yet irrc.
I can only change the boons on the door so far.

[rustic vale]

See what did I tell you

[rustic vale]

You haven’t got the green side of the mirror yet?

Dang

I literally had the green side like my third run of the fresh save I made but I may have sequence broken stuff by making it to elysium atp

[stoic summit]

what should i take? Greater evasion, second wind, quick reload, all no rarity, i can re-roll

[old bluff]

Reroll

[stoic summit]

...

[rustic vale]

It’s a bad lot and we’re looking for rush delivery here

[runic jungle]

Wait I think I do have that option bc my mirror is fully unlocked
I think there's arrows I'll have to check in the morning

[stoic summit]

...

[rustic vale]

“I can reroll here”

Is that a typo

[stoic summit]

greater haste (epic) quick recovery, greatest reflex no rarity on either

[stone rune]

dash

[old bluff]

dash prob best

[stone rune]

not prob

there is 0 argument

[rustic vale]

haste would be funny banking on styx hermes but dash is logicsl

[jagged hamlet]

Dashiel Parr

[stone rune]

the other do not increase your damage

[stoic summit]

isnt greater haste good though? its epic

[stone rune]

dash increases your damage

[rustic vale]

Rarity ainmt the problem

[jagged hamlet]

Epic shmepic

[old bluff]

wait is this second hermes and also what weapon

[stone rune]

its 2nd hermes

[stoic summit]

ill get hermes styx easy trust fr fr

[stone rune]

on sword

[rustic vale]

You don’t have rush delivery, greater haste isn’t boosting your damage

[stoic summit]

yes, nem sword

[old bluff]

oh yeah, easy dash pick then

[stoic summit]

😮‍💨

[rustic vale]

it could’ve been a funny play to bank on getting rush delivery in styx because

[stoic summit]

i shouldve done it

[rustic vale]

180% bonus speed is massive for any rarity rush delivery

[rustic vale]

Nah

You don’t bank on a 50:50 to even get 3 options from Hermes

When greatest reflex is right there

[jagged hamlet]

Dash-Strike for days

[stoic summit]

AYY

NIGHT SPINDLE

FINALLY

[tepid plover]

Yes

[stoic summit]

do i have a reason to go for zeus and artimes room? instead of health

[rustic vale]

Tbh though if you don’t hit styx hermes we can do “shackles guide to anvil rng manip”

[rustic vale]

Tbh it’s probabky better to just take health unless you need uc fodder

[tepid plover]

I know there's a clip, make it a gif

[stoic summit]

i think i do

[old bluff]

Just make a savestate

[stoic summit]

oh cool i got the waking phrase for bow

[jagged hamlet]

Does the term "save state" come from emulators?

[rustic vale]

bro the video isn’t even a fully rng manip guide it’s not getting sent unkess someone does not understand what casts hitting the ground means

[tepid plover]

Ish

[rustic vale]

[stoic summit]

should i pick pressure points? other options are true shot and support fire

[old bluff]

PP is the Goat

[rustic vale]

Pp is a boon fr

[tepid plover]

Free crits? Don't mind if I do

[stoic summit]

its epic to so nice

[rustic vale]

I’d take support fire for call charging if you still haven’t got smairr

[tepid plover]

He's got smair

[rustic vale]

Nvrmidn

Take pp hope for hunters mark

[stoic summit]

any good zeus boons left?

[tepid plover]

Legendary

[stoic summit]

i dont have that

as an option

in front of me right now

whatever ill just choose elelctirc shock

shot*

[tepid plover]

And I'm supposed to guess what's in front of you

[stoic summit]

yes\

obviosulty

[tepid plover]

Aight

[stoic summit]

is lioghting reflexes good?

[rustic vale]

Yes

[stoic summit]

bro i cant spell my goodness

ugh i have 17 health and these stupid sheild guys think they are good

[rustic vale]

Zeus dash 2.0, doesn’t take a core, doesn’t mess with your duos odds, and best of all(in this case), no sword bug

[old bluff]

I love how Zeus dash at home is just strictly better than Zeus dash

[stoic summit]

lol im at 5 health

[rustic vale]

I think it’s better damage too iirc

[rustic vale]

Cthonic regen best clutch up

[stoic summit]

no healing from charon wtf i dont need minerals gahh

[old bluff]

Yeah it just does double damage

[tepid plover]

Lightning reflexes is free dmg for me, since ruthless reflexb

[old bluff]

Please tell me you only play gilga

[stoic summit]

nah ill beat eleysium bosses without taking any damage watch

[tepid plover]

I play everything

[old bluff]

RR gaming kinda based ngl

[rustic vale]

It’s free damage on grester reflexes too?

I don’t see the difference

The absurdly low qualifications for what a near miss is are insane btw

[latent moon]

ngl after doing ri3 runs at high heat, monodash shield is kinda based

[stoic summit]

YOOO

[tepid plover]

Well yeah, but greater reflex has more room to not trigger it

[stoic summit]

i beat stupid thesus with 5 health

acorn for the win

[rustic vale]

Greater reflex has twice the number of chances to and given enemies send projectiles in every which way imaginable

[tepid plover]

[stoic summit]

dang i gotta sell lighting reflexes

[tepid plover]

Do it

[stoic summit]

i think its the wors out of hunter dash and defintly not smoldering air like again bruh

[rustic vale]

~also… just… the margin of being able to get a nesr miss is insane

[tepid plover]

[rustic vale]

iirc

[tepid plover]

Yeah it is

Which is why I love rr

[stoic summit]

ay theres hermes in styx shop

[tepid plover]

Free 50% dmg

[rustic vale]

It’s been a while since I’be used either rr or lightning reflexe-

“Free”

[tepid plover]

It is free

[rustic vale]

I love opportunity cost

[old bluff]

But the other one gives free 100% extra dash

[rustic vale]

[tepid plover]

I love something I don't need

[stoic summit]

is that what you were talking about with hermes in styx?

[tepid plover]

Yes

[rustic vale]

Yes

[stoic summit]

its mad expensive

[rustic vale]

It’s a 50:50 between him and the anvik

[rustic vale]

Yeah. Hades devs know his worth

[tepid plover]

You can't get a 3rd Hermes any other way so

[stoic summit]

why not?

[tepid plover]

Cause the game says no

[latent moon]

also that hermes is nearly guaranteed to not give commons

[rustic vale]

It caps at 2

the only place you can get a third hermes boon is

styx

[old bluff]

Bag

[tepid plover]

Once you have 2 you won't get offered any more Hermes from rooms

Only styx shop

[rustic vale]

It’s opportunity cost on most weapons to not be able to hit the dash button a second time and immediately double their dps for just +50% additive iykwim it’s not purely a matter of needing a second dash for dodging but rather for dps on most aspects

[stoic summit]

so what am i looking for with hermes?

[rustic vale]

I assume you already know that and are willingly playing the fool but

[rustic vale]

Rush delivery

[stoic summit]

my bad my bad, second wind seems good though

[rustic vale]

It gives you global additive based on your extra movement speed

[old bluff]

RD is always a correct answer

[rustic vale]

So hypersprint which doubles your movement speed

100% times whatever the Hermes boon is worth

[oblique willow]

whats the strat for getting out with coronacht and/or exagryph? still trying to complete that prophecy

[stoic summit]

oh dang, its only rare though

[rustic vale]

only rare

[stoic summit]

obviously greater evasion is the better pick then because its epic

im joking im joking

[rustic vale]

Rush delivery is better than 95% of hermes boons at common

even if the rest of his boons are heroic

[old bluff]

Only 75% global additive oh no

[stoic summit]

whats rush delivery at heroic?

[rustic vale]

125%

[old bluff]

125%

[rustic vale]

50% +25% per rarity level

[old bluff]

The only way to get it is to get natty epic RD into a eury ambrosia

[rustic vale]

is the rarity scaling for rush delivery

[rustic vale]

“Natty”

[stoic summit]

can a ares boon help me significantly in the hades fight or should i just buy another pom?

[rustic vale]

pom

[latent moon]

for bow, basically always dash strike. charges the bow faster and makes it smoother to play. build depends on the aspect
for rail, all but hestia takes zeus on the attack. all rails take aphrodite/artemis on the special and ideally poseidon's dash

[rustic vale]

You can easily roid any boon you want with eury

[old bluff]

The hard part is getting epic RD

[stoic summit]

alright hades fight at 16 heat lets gooo

[old bluff]

Iirc, non-pride Hermes has like a 3% epic chance

[rustic vale]

Running non pride is though

[oblique willow]

ty!! and to whoever cleared it up for me earlier abt dating meg and than <3

[rustic vale]

Gimme my epics

[old bluff]

facts

Legacy is a scam

[latent moon]

just run ri and dont run either

[rustic vale]

I have a compilation somewhere of photos of 3-5 duos with pride as anti-legacy propaganda

sorry for spelling it degrades as I get eepy and my medication wears off

[old bluff]

I think I got a 7 duo+lego build on pride once, counter propaganda

[rustic vale]

Me fr

[stone rune]

the strat is to not play the game and then you will never miss a duo

[old bluff]

^

[rustic vale]

That’s literally my point

like

your screenshot

would be added to my folder

[old bluff]

My bad, I can't read

[rustic vale]

because that’s the idea

[stoic summit]

dang

[old bluff]

I thought it said on legacy

me dumb

[stoic summit]

that hades fight was mad easy

i suppose having a correct build is important....

[rustic vale]

what blue rd does to a mmf

[old bluff]

Rd is hella strong? since when

[stoic summit]

didnt die a single time the whole run, thanks a lot for the help guys

[latent moon]

blue rd smair kinda busted

[rustic vale]

I suppose……….

[old bluff]

Builds are in fact minorly important

[rustic vale]

Guys why does my tanky solely damage reduction specced build keep losing to tight deadline 3 at 32 heat

[fervent radish]

add dio dash

[old bluff]

Solution: don't play 32 heat. Hope this helps!

[fervent radish]

it'll really boost your damage

[rustic vale]

It depends on your goal

[fervent radish]

the best "builds" are often just 1-2 boons

[tepid plover]

Dammit

[fervent radish]

and whatever scaling you want

[rustic vale]

If it’s new heights, a good build will go a long way
If it ain’t, it doesn’t really matter

[tepid plover]

One of them being bouldy

Bouldy 9% special dmg on chiron goes hard

[old bluff]

Chiron

[rustic vale]

Bouldy 10% movespeed goes crazy when you aren’t running ap2

[tepid plover]

Listen

It still goes hard

[fervent radish]

10% movespeed is already halfway to a common greater haste

don't count it out

[rustic vale]

10% movespeed doesn’t sound like a lot till you remember it’s all multiplicative

[old bluff]

hyper+epic RD and 10% goes up to 20%

[rustic vale]

Hyper + a few ichors

and 10% goes intercontinentally ballistic

[stoic summit]

meg was in my room?? hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[rustic vale]

No way she was in mine too

Twinning

at some point anyways

Guys if any of y’all are twins, have you ever considered whether or not you’re the mirage shot one

[stoic summit]

alright time for 32 heat lets go

[rustic vale]

Hahahahaha

You’re jumping into a different game amigo

[stoic summit]

i just NEED that skelly statue, how hard could it be

[old bluff]

Real life is not beo, one twin would be very very dead

[rustic vale]

🙄 that’s something a non-flare mirage shot twin would say

[stoic summit]

i got to prepare a lesson for tomorrow and ive kinda been procrastinating, now its 11:30...

worth for the skelly statue obviously though

[rustic vale]

“So today we’re learning abouf why double edge is the sword hammer of all time”

[stoic summit]

lol not a lesson on hades (although maybe thats not such a bad idea)

[old bluff]

Unmodded hammer resets go brrrrrrr

[tepid plover]

Is cause you edge twice, simple

[latent moon]

accidentally took fountain instead of patty on 40 heat

surely this wont have any repercussions

[stoic summit]

lol thanatos got 0 and i got 34 L

[tepid plover]

Robbed him

||nemesis made me appreciate thanatos, we didn't know how good we had it||

Sorry stickybot, for I have sinned

[stoic summit]

unforgivable

[jagged hamlet]

Remember, Reddit kids: builds are quality over quantity!

[latent moon]

true

[tepid plover]

Yeah im just not gonna say anything

[latent moon]

you're using ap2 you get neither quality or quantity lmao

well actually you'd get the same quantity i guess

[twilit shore]

I don’t wanna kill skelly…

[tepid plover]

Well I do focus boons, so I'd say I get quantity

That's my focus

My whole purpose

I get carried by family

My screenshots usually have like 4 columns of boons

[jagged hamlet]

I'll give you $5 if you kill Skelly

[steep gate]

only one achievement left... maxing every keepsake will take so long 😭

I have 10 left and 8 of them are somewhere within level one 🤑

[tepid plover]

2 runs peer keepsake

Isn't that bad

[steep gate]

I guess the best "strat" would just be 0 heat aspect of nemesis or something

[tepid plover]

0 heat literally anything lol

Go eris and speedrun

[latent moon]

10 heat would be best for speed

[tepid plover]

Em2 fo2 and td1?

[latent moon]

yep

[tepid plover]

Is that 10?

[latent moon]

yeah

em2 fo2 is 9, td1 makes 10

[tepid plover]

Damn fo2 is 6 heat?

[latent moon]

granted fo2 is kinda painful if you're not used to it so maybe do fo1 lmao

yeah 3 each rank

once you learn it, it's 6 "free" heat

so it's really solid if you want to get into high heat

but otherwise there's very little reason to learn it

maybe like fo1 for 32 heat but that's like it

[tepid plover]

I'm sad my 32 heat clear didn't save cause of mods 😪

But I ain't doing that again, unfun pacts

[jagged hamlet]

Hi, dad. I'm Packrat

[tepid plover]

LMFAO

Sad

[jagged hamlet]

Nooo why'd you fix it

[latent moon]

you're already doing ap2 so that's 5 heat off the 32 lmao

which is also the unfun pact

[tepid plover]

Nah, unfun was like uc and dc

[latent moon]

you're bound to get junk from ap2 so it's an easy sell isn't it

like more often than not you're getting junk

[tepid plover]

Yeah but that's no fun

I'm talking about pure enjoyment, not like easy or hard

[latent moon]

i mean sure

but also like

i dont see what makes that not fun lmao

[tepid plover]

I like hoarding

[latent moon]

ah

welp

could not take uc then i guess lmao

and dc well

that's aspect dependent

[tepid plover]

Im fine my statue is there, I just won't bother

[latent moon]

oh i thought you said it didnt save

[tepid plover]

That's the weird part, the statue is there,but like in the end screen where it shows the build, it doesn't say 32 in the record

[latent moon]

funky

did you do it on god mode?

[tepid plover]

No

[latent moon]

welp

no clue then lmao

[tepid plover]

Yeah beats me

[latent moon]

what mods did you use

[tepid plover]

Uhhh, had a few at the time, olympus extra, the weapon xp one, Auto reload.

Couple others

The one that adds weapons aspects

[latent moon]

oh lmao

yeah no clue then

do it again for funsies

[tepid plover]

Nah no funsies in that

Sad was just memeing, i don't really care, my beautiful statue is there

[primal hedge]

Sorry guys I'm new af but I have a pressing matter here I'm dying with.

[tepid plover]

It's okay you'll respawn, say hi to hypnos for me

[tepid light]

feel free to share

[primal hedge]

Pressure points says +2% chance to do critical, with critical being +200% damage. +200% means x 3. Doing 3x damage on 2 out of every 100 shots is not a significant amount of damage. Am I wrong?

[tepid plover]

The main thing about PP is marked

[tepid light]

why is your pp marked at all

[tepid plover]

Cause

[tepid light]

sorry couldn't resist

[tepid plover]

I really don't know what to answer 🤣

[latent moon]

you're not wrong yeah lmao

pressure points isn't like

great but it's also not bad

bc it's still like free damage that's from just playing the game

[jagged hamlet]

One pom makes PP 50% better 👀

[latent moon]

it also opens up hunter's mark, which is what you want

[tepid plover]

Also, if you have marked

[latent moon]

so once you get 1 random crit, youc an chain them off to others

[tepid plover]

Right is called hunters mark, not marked

[jagged hamlet]

Oh hai, mark

[tepid plover]

I refuse to call it static discharge. Jolted for life

[tepid light]

also since pressure points applies to everything you do, it procs more often than you'd think

support fire with pressure points go brrrr

[tepid plover]

Like hangover!

[primal hedge]

Ok thank you, just wanted to make sure my math wasn't deceiving me!

[sleek cliff]

nobody calls it that

[tepid plover]

Good, they shouldn't #Jolted4Life

[lavish sorrel]

I do, sometimes

[rustic vale]

Iterally forgot the speedrunning in question

[tepid plover]

howd you sleep shackle

[rustic vale]

Great

[tight cloak]

Do I need to start a fresh new game to bring Persephone

[rustic vale]

?

[tepid plover]

no

[limber perch]

Maybe a dumb question, but I'm Chaos boon hunting to complete fated challenges. Does ___ Defiance require me to have lost a death defy that run for it to appear or no?

[tepid plover]

nope

[fervent radish]

a bunch of people call it that

Static discharge is so much to type

[mortal copper]

For art purposes does anyone know what Charon looks like under his cloak- cause I’ve seen artists draw him with a skull for a head but like- does he have arms? Or is it just bones?

Wait omg I’m stupid his sprite does have arms nvm

But then how does that connect to his skull then??

[tepid plover]

we know as much as you do

this is mythology mate, doesnt have to make sense

[fervent radish]

I think his head is just shriveled, not a skull

[mortal copper]

Hmm okay