#h1-discussion

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mint coral
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Or imgur idk

vague rivet
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Wait no. there's no VC here

jagged hamlet
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Imagine speaking gosh

latent moon
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or imgur

fervent radish
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Lmao

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Average ap0 screen

mint coral
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should I meme with hazard

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actually no lmao

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I want this win

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also I forgot how goofy momement speed looks

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haste + 2 ichors

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would've been funnier with sprint ofc but whatever

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2 ichors gud

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should've put charon's keepsake

worldly mason
latent moon
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Good soup

worldly mason
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Best flavor, indeed

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Ngl

latent moon
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Purse imo

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That way paupers is free chaos

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Twist for another Ixion if you're feeling funny

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Although I doubt that's useful in aspho

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But maybe another stone or braid

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Atk jerky decent I guess

mint coral
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70% cast dmg lmao

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5 rolls into ely

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time to have fun

mint coral
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went unmodded for 1 run

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barge

latent moon
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Classic

mint coral
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no way I get past heroes but hey at least I got the duo

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yeah rip

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gonna keep it for practice at least

fossil notch
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why am i not gettin

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demeters favor?

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ive done epilouge

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max hearts

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did up to heat like 18

mint coral
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Rng goes haha

fossil notch
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ive talked to her like 30 times 😭

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insta die

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wow

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still grinding

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still no favor

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is she bugged

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imma do 4 more

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then giv eup

mint coral
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Swap 1, 9, 10 and 12
Max defiance/hp/coins/2nd dash

vague rivet
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Okay

mint coral
latent moon
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i'd prioritize dark foresight over deep pockets lmao

mint coral
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I think they are fine in darkness anyways

latent moon
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probably

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fated persuasion expensive tho

fossil notch
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ive probably talked to demeter like

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40 times by now

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still no favor somehow?

fossil notch
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yea shes repeating dialouge

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at this point

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still not giving favor

vague rivet
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So is this good?

stone rune
mint coral
fossil notch
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up to like 18

stone rune
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so no then

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her favor is tied to the epilogue

fossil notch
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elaborate on epilouge

mint coral
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The feast

vague rivet
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Alright

stone rune
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you need to get like 6 characters to max hearts for it to happen

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or something

fossil notch
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how do i do the feast if i dont have her favor tho

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i already have 6 olypimain favors i think rn

mint coral
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You only need 6 gods yeah

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And Dem counts as one once you reach the lock

fossil notch
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this lowkey makes me mad

mint coral
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Has the "queen's plan" prophecy advanced

fossil notch
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so i js spent like 2 hours

mint coral
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Or mom mentioned the invitations

fossil notch
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trying to get somethin i couldnt

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💔

stone rune
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man i havent thought about that stuff in so long

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ngl i feel like the story did not matter at all to me past like my first few clears

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it was good to keep me playing for the first few hours

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but i do not remember anything of it anymore

meager gazelle
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Did any of y'all try no boon no darkness hades run?

stone rune
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boonless mirrorless?

meager gazelle
stone rune
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at low heat its pretty simple

meager gazelle
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Ok

stone rune
meager gazelle
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I'm still using the mirror and boons to kill him 5 more times I think, and for the last one I'm gonna go naked

stone rune
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i have not thought about this in like a year

meager gazelle
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What are your strats for this?

stone rune
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just use hestia with shackle and its pretty free

meager gazelle
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Which weapon?

meager gazelle
stone rune
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hestia is the rail aspect

mint coral
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Aspect of the rail

stone rune
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shackle is the sisyphus keepsake

proper tusk
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if youve only cleared 3 times i would probably not do hestia

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it kind of sucks at low level

stone rune
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well like

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after 9 clears you'll have 18 blood

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you can max hestia

proper tusk
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thats true yea

cold pine
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Bro im crying 😭 I was playing hades on my 30 hz tv and whilst i played the game a rat ran across my floor and it startle me since i never seen a rat before so I pause the game to tend to that then I come back to get a very unreactable hades laser and die

proper tusk
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like an actual rat

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in real life

cold pine
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Yes

mint coral
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Styx irl

cyan pike
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vermin

meager gazelle
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Damn

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Poison damage

proper tusk
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crazy how they designed styx after new york city

void vigil
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i love this gif

proper tusk
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actually that was a joke but visually its not that different

void vigil
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have at thee...

cyan pike
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the rats do not run this city

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we do

vague rivet
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I wanna try this chaos boon thing

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But idk if it's worth it

proper tusk
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chaos is good

vague rivet
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Alright I'll try

proper tusk
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you get a bad thing for like 3 rooms and then a really good thing for the rest of the run

stone rune
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basically

cold pine
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Dont get the "attacking makes you lose health one"

stone rune
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dont take enshrouded or roiling curse

cold pine
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Unless you doing a special/cast inly build but even then not worth imo

stone rune
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you can take maimed or flayed or addled if ur reasonably confident

proper tusk
stone rune
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it wont kill you itll only bring you to 1hp

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halting and slothful are really annoying

cyan pike
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Yeah

stone rune
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excruciating and atrophic are literally free

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same with abyssal

cyan pike
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Movement speed and dash speed reduction are annoying when I'm on higher heat

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never getting those in elysium ever again

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hate those chariots

cold pine
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Idk the by name 😭

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Im not necessarily new but im new to the game

proper tusk
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theyre in there

cold pine
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I beat it but really early on in the game

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Ah ok thx

cyan pike
stone rune
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u learn them over time

mint coral
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I only remember the annoying ones

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Enshrouded/roiling

stone rune
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i can parse chaos screens by the shape of the text now

mint coral
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And caustic/paper cuz those are funny

fervent radish
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caustic helps when you have RR

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literally goated crse

stone rune
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the real question is why would you have rr

mint coral
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Cuz its nice

fervent radish
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because i like monodash

stone rune
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y

fervent radish
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i just like it

vague rivet
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Anyways The new upgrades I tried with the mirror

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Its really good

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I beat a mini boss really quick

latent moon
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roiling curses aren't that bad if normal rooms aren't a problem for you

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they're pretty free tbh

stone sun
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Herro

oak olive
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Finally beat hades using sword

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The one that gives life steal is pretty op

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Pair it with some damage reduction boon u pretty much invincible

austere burrow
oak olive
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I mean idk i just beat hades

tepid light
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how many death defiances did you have/use?

oak olive
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All

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Tbh I really thought there will be third phases

tepid light
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ahah

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well

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||he does indeed get a third phase via the extreme measures modifier in the pact of punishment||

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but i don't think you'll need to worry about that for a while

oak olive
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Yeah

cold isle
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Is Gods legacy better then Gods pride

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I’m struggling to get good boons I feel like I might switch to gods pride

plush kelp
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depends on the build you're going for

cold isle
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Ig gods legacy is prob better then

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I’m switching to doing a lot of HB duos

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But even then I don’t get HB sometimes

plush kelp
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I mean, pride helps you get Epic boons. Legacy helps get Legendaries and Duos if the conditions for them are met

stiff obsidian
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pride better

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use pride

cold isle
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But even then it’s not guaranteed AND I HATEEEE the feeling for skipping gods it hammers bc I. Have the little chance I could get HB but then arty gives me something not so great

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😔😔😔😔

plush kelp
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I'm no gameplay specialist, but since you're after HB, probably best to start a run with Ares's keepsake and get his cast right away and then go after Artemis

plush kelp
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Also, do you have rerolls for chambers or boons?

cold isle
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Boons

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But I think it would be better for chambers right?

plush kelp
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yeah, that's for the best

cold isle
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If I’m searching for duos

plush kelp
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boons, I mean

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keep rerolls for boons

cold isle
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Oh I have the reroll

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Yeah sometimes when I reroll I do get the duo

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Other times I waste all of them for the same shartty options 😔😔

plush kelp
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it happens

cold isle
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Like arty bbg I was rerolling your boons to get hunting blades not to get 3% pressure points

plush kelp
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It's worth sometimes not waste rerolls and just grab a boon and hope for the god to appear later and try then

cold isle
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I’ll try that

plush kelp
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Getting the Yarn and Chaos's boon that raise the rarity of boons can help too

devout gazelle
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just beat hades in time of 16:37:49 my fastest time yet shadethumbsup

buoyant matrix
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nice

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pretty good

devout gazelle
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Aspect of Zeus trying not to be broken challenge (impossible)

lavish sorrel
devout gazelle
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My honest reaction: bouldy

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Let me guess speedrunners use Chiron

buoyant matrix
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beowolf from what ive heard

plush kelp
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Speedrunners use whatever they want

buoyant matrix
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i don’t speedrun though

plush kelp
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But I think Beowulf is a more acceptable one in that community

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Definitely heard of very quick times with that one

stiff obsidian
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there are ppl who play almost every aspect but fastest is beo

devout gazelle
buoyant matrix
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i barely use it

devout gazelle
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Extra dashes shadethumbsup

buoyant matrix
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that’s gilgamesh

plush kelp
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isn't that Gilgamesh?

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Beowulf is the shield

buoyant matrix
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beo loads casts into your shield

plush kelp
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Gilga is fists

buoyant matrix
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i also barely use gilgamesh so

cold isle
plush kelp
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if you want

mint coral
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Is one of the fastest too

old bluff
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Achilles is top tier for speedrunning, along with Beo, Eris, Hestia, and Hera

mint coral
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Also was the first sub 5 modded iirc

old bluff
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Yeah

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185 built different

stiff obsidian
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achilles

devout gazelle
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Anyways just maxed my aspect of Gilgamesh

cold isle
plush kelp
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What does what do?

cold isle
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Aspect of Gilgamesh lol

plush kelp
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Extra dash and Maim

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"Maim causes the target to take an additional 25% damage and deal an additional 50% more damage to Zagreus. It lasts 4 seconds and deals a Doom-like burst of damage when it expires."

cold isle
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Hmm ok

cold isle
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Ares cast zagluv zagluv zagluv

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Does pressure points count for duos?

mint coral
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No

cold isle
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Oki

mint coral
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Most duos are core + core

plush kelp
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You can check what boons you need to get duos in the codex, if you have the necessary update

mint coral
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With some having a passive as an option/mandatory

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Curse of nausea being the former/vengeful mood or cold fusion for the latter

cold isle
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Oh my god I got pos rn

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So I’m gonna use arty keep sake

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It’s a win win if I get mirage shot duo or HB

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If I get HB then I’ll use POS Keepsake in elsiyum

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I was fighting Alecto lmao rn but I had flayed cast

old bluff
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What weapon are you using?

mint coral
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Achilles prob

cold isle
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My man knows my weapon

stone rune
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i mean theres like 1 aspect total where hunting blades is the go to

cold isle
mint coral
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This is run 1 lmao

cold isle
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Can you beat hades on the first actual run?

cold isle
fervent radish
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Yeah

mint coral
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Yeah is a speedrun category

twin thistle
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If youre enough of a gamer

cold isle
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Any special dialogue if I were to attempt this?

mint coral
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Slight variation I think?

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I just want the win

cold isle
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You can tell us pls

plush kelp
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There's some special dialogue I think

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Mostly, when you move on to the second run after

cold isle
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What does he say?

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I assume dad doesn’t taunt you saying your just gonna die again

plush kelp
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I can't remember

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But I do think Hades gets surprised you beat him first try
And other characters might do as well in the next run, idk

mint coral
cold isle
mint coral
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The worst part of ely is sword dudes

plush kelp
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There's no special dialogue there, I think. Just normal next encounter

mint coral
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Those things attack so fast

jagged hamlet
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Shield dudes and armored bow dudes are also just the worst!

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2+ armored arrow dudes: oops your screen is all arrows!

plush kelp
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Tldr dudes in Elysium are the worst

jagged hamlet
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Except for Eeyore dude, of course!

cold isle
mint coral
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For all I know they can't appear in run 1

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There's a bunch of scripted combats

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My dad summons in this save state are great at least

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Witches + spear

plush kelp
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Y'all ever imagine what if Hades summoned Theseus to help in the fight?

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Sounds like such an awful idea

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But funny too

stiff obsidian
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middle management ❎ top management ✅

junior isle
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just completely blanked on what the default keyboard companion button is mid-lernie

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can anyone help me out lmao

latent moon
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1

junior isle
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ty!

latent moon
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you can also look through the controls in the pause menu lmao

junior isle
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🤦‍♂️ _ _

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missed that completely somehow

latent moon
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happens lmao

jagged hamlet
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There there /pet

junior isle
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its not even like im new to the game this is hour 125 of play time

stone rune
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companion mid lernie ?

junior isle
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need the HP from bouldy

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trying my best at 32 heat

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its going poorly but not as bad as i thought it would be

sick palm
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i...i just beat a boss and my keepsake is at 1 till max (trying to progress at max speed)

fervent radish
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(It was also the only time I’ve gotten bad influence)

mint coral
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nice

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in practice stuff, only reached p2 once

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but also god of the dead is a banger track

solar breach
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Can someone send a pic for me

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I just got the funniest set of boons

latent moon
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you can use embeds

solar breach
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whats that

mint coral
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send the image somewhere else (can use a priv discord) then right click and press copy image link

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or use imgur

jagged hamlet
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I send DMs to bots!

junior isle
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i got the kiss of styx premium when i was at none left that was close

buoyant matrix
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pat always shows up when i’m at full health and dd

junior isle
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yeah it feels weird to see him when you really really need the kiss of styx/hydralite

mint coral
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that's why you should use stubborn defiance and get the cooler item 🧠

junior isle
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oh that is a cool item

umbral tulip
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the worst part of ely is shield dudes zagsad

buoyant matrix
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it is a cooler item but 3 50% dds are better than 1 80% sd so

mint coral
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come to high heat

buoyant matrix
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i will

umbral tulip
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i hate em2< theseus for the same reason

buoyant matrix
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not yet

stiff obsidian
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When ur on stubborn u ALWAYS are in need of patty hidethepain

mint coral
cold isle
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He gave me addled

mint coral
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I don't think I've ever seen Chaos's DD when using stubborn lmao

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or maybe once? idk

buoyant matrix
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what about 3 50% dds and also 2 chaos boons that boost your damage

mint coral
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fwiw when I mean 2 dds I didn't mean chaos's legendary lol

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you can exploit athena's DD boons to do that

buoyant matrix
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ohh that’s how that works

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you burn sd before taking those?

mint coral
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yup

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then SD is back next room

buoyant matrix
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my friend plays sd and did that but didn’t burn sd beforehand so i was confused

junior isle
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just got theseus's post-sea gods spite dialogue, in that same fight he gets poseidon's aid lmao

cold isle
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I like sd

mint coral
latent moon
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you can't pom athena's DD boons

latent moon
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2 of them were in the same run

mint coral
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lmao

latent moon
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on one of my zag shield runs that cleared i got chaos DD tho

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didn't need it but was funny

junior isle
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tiny vermin on my 32 heat run because of course there is

stone rune
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the tony

junior isle
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dropped a DD on it, welp

mint coral
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tony gaming

junior isle
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now its super dad time which in hindsight i shouldve practiced before going for the 32 heat

junior isle
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im doing 32 heat

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tryna get all of skelly's prizes

mint coral
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em4 isn't taken till like 50+

junior isle
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oh.

latent moon
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em4 kinda dummy hard

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there's better things to put 4 heat in

junior isle
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yeah there sure is

mint coral
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run 1 savestate

stone rune
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i should probably get an ff clear

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i usually do like 3 attempts and get bored or die

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i got to like styx once

latent moon
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fresh file hard

wary iron
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verdict of my 32 heat no i frame run:
ely midboss falling stone scary

dry wind
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Okay so I'm hardstuck at Hades now I've faced him about five times now and haven't won a single time

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I've been favoring Ares/Athena builds occasionally throwing some Artemis and Aphrodite in there

plush kelp
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Builds more focused on attack/special/cast?

stone rune
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?

sick palm
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hey uh what does the kind of reset thing under all the god trinkets mean?

stiff obsidian
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i think u mean the 1 time use thing

twin thistle
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Just means the amount of uses the keepsake has

sick palm
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so you mean that all the god boons give a 20% boost at max level for a specific god and only once?...that sounds kinda underwealming

stiff obsidian
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no

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it forced the next boon to be from that god

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x1 times

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rarity boost will be applied for the entire time you have it equipped

sick palm
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oh ok that's way better already]

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and also makes sense

stiff obsidian
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yeah they are invaluable when going for a specific build

sick palm
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would be stupid to equip something and not get a use out of it for the whole run (if youre that unlucky)

dry wind
plush kelp
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I've always heard Poseidon or Athena is good for dash
For attack it depends on the weapon I hear

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Aphrodite has one of the strongest attacks if I recall correctly (I can barely remember boons)

sick palm
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for dash i always go with the defense one unless i got the multi multi dash thing, and as attack i only have a specific for the gloves but also not specific, just anithing that is either multihit like poison or lighting

mint coral
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the tl;dr is weak but fast = zeus/dio
higher dmg but slow = % god

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with aph or arty being the ideal

vernal brook
distant mulch
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guys im 30% of the way to the end credits yipee !!

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finished the game two more times today

plush kelp
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Nice

slow crystal
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Excellent, those first few clears are the hardest

wary iron
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tbh ares athena build is arguably the best build out there (if we leave out bugged builds)

buoyant matrix
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it’s just pretty hard to get going in my experience

mint coral
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Or for heat you have rama/zeus

wary iron
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but is HB really better than ME?

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i never played rama/zeus so i can't comment on that

mint coral
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Soeed wise at least yeah

wary iron
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perhaps i should give it more tries then

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it just never seemed so good with all bosses except hydra and theseus moving around so much

buoyant matrix
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you just named half the bosses, the other ones being the first boss and [REDACTED], who stands still during multiple attacks.

mint coral
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Hunting blades by meg is rare tbf

buoyant matrix
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you don’t really need hunting blades for meg

mint coral
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You mostly use tidal dash + whatever atk you found

mint coral
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Aspho is also fine w/o cast duo

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Once you hit ely hope you had another way gor dmg

wary iron
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maybe i should try it more

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how does it work with rush delivery?

buoyant matrix
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while you have the movespeed it adds the damage to the cast, but once you lose the movespeed the damage returns to normal

wary iron
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dash and immediately cast or does the damage only add while the cast is dealing damage so you just dash around while the cast is flying?

buoyant matrix
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the latter

wary iron
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does the ares legendary boost it at all?

buoyant matrix
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yes

mint coral
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+1 but yeah

buoyant matrix
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by a lot

wary iron
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i heard smth bout it being bugged and only doing 50%

mint coral
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Scam sickle only works correctly on call

buoyant matrix
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i don’t think so?

mint coral
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+1 to dash/cast and +0 to flare

wary iron
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lovely

buoyant matrix
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ohh

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still really good

mint coral
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You mostly just want cast dmg/speed if RD

wary iron
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but if you still get the duo late aspho/ early ely is it that much better than ME?

mint coral
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So is rare to see the legendary

buoyant matrix
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it’s really quite simple, just get both hunting blades and me

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/j

wary iron
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my luck is barely enough to get ME in styx smh

buoyant matrix
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kinda same, that’s why i love hestia

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it just works

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although the second i use it chaos ditches me

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and hermes crams rare swift strike down my throat

latent moon
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Classic

formal solstice
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hey why cant i give ambrosia to a char ive given max nectar to?

plush kelp
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Have you completed his favor?

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You need to spend at least 10000 obols at his shop

mint coral
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Most of them are pretty much just keep talking, a few are prophecies and others a bit more specific

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You can go to the wiki to find any of these

mint hatch
formal solstice
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thanks

formal solstice
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artermis, ares and hermes

mint coral
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Hermes moment

plush kelp
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Artemis and Hermes is dialogue (Hermes specifically with Lambent Plume at 3 star)
Ares is just kill a bunch if enemies and dialogue

mint coral
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You got one of each type too lmao

formal solstice
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i have not really used the prune

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so ig ill take some shots at using it

mint hatch
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You need to max it too

formal solstice
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i think i did ares's quest?

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but idk

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ill check

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ill do it next time i use the fists

mint hatch
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Ares quest is ||kill 10k enemies||

formal solstice
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yeah i think i got that

mint coral
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Then now is keep talking to him

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Arty is get her to mention callisto a few times

jagged hamlet
fossil tartan
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I don't know how many runs in I am

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but my kid started playing on my save file, and they really like the hades keepsake

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at one point, I got them to Hades and they used their call, and Hades said "I'm right here, you know"

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and then I lost it when Zag yells "FATHER!" when he activates his call a second time, and Hades just yells back "SON!"

formal solstice
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probably among my fav interactions tbh

slow crystal
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i am an unseen overseer

plain dove
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Can I play offline after ive linked cross save? I moved my switch saves to my steam but cross saves in game usually means needs internet

latent crescent
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So I’ve reached a unique point.

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idk what to do now or how to unlock certain things

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I’m trying to unlock the little dolls and the hidden aspects of the gloves.

Also can anyone tell me the best trinkets to use!

stone sun
#

Well

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I don't want to spoil much so could you tell me what you have so I dont spoil too much

primal merlin
# latent crescent I’m trying to unlock the little dolls and the hidden aspects of the gloves. Al...

I assume you are talkign about the companions: There are six of them, one for ||Skelly, Dusa, Meg, Than, Achilles and Sisyphus||. You need to max their hearts to get them, the last heart needing an Ambrosia, and to complete a sidequest involving them, which most of the time is just... Talking to them (and ||patroclus in the case of Achilles||).

To get the hidden aspect of the gloves you first need to unlock guan yu with the following:

  • 5 Infernal Arms Aspects unlocked with Titan Blood (does not include each Aspect of Zagreus). This will cost a total of 5-10
    *Reach the final boss (victory not required)
    *||Achilles|| will eventually give you an unlock phrase. Unlock the spear

invest 5 titan blood on fists aspects
then grab the fists(any aspect), eventually when talking to ||Asterius|| while using the gloves, he'll give you an unlock phrase. Die/win the run (giving up does not progress the story), then go to the fists to unlock it

stuck garden
primal merlin
primal merlin
stone sun
primal merlin
#

...thats what I said, yes

stone sun
#

I didn't read all that

regal inlet
#

Nothing in this game is nearly as fun as getting heroic greatest reflex and thunder dash

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So much fun

primal merlin
stone sun
#

||Is it just me or is thanatos and hypnos convo like a one off thing and we learn their RELATED||

mint coral
#

Fists is the same

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One dialogue about carrying the fists (needs them equipped) then it doesn't matter

stone sun
#

I had to use fists like 100000000000 times to get that

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NUH UH

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I tried using sword

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so I could get that done

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and it would NEVER give me the thingy and I had all requirements met

mint coral
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Rng issue

stone sun
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BREH

rustic vale
stone sun
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But like

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It REFUSED to give it too me and then I used the fists for some rewards and I got it

mint coral
#

Fists just suck in general to get lmao

stone sun
#

Well they are OP

mint coral
#

Let me rephrase then

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Fists suck

stone sun
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You are buggin in my opinion

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but alright

stone rune
stone sun
#

I know A lot, when It comes to game play But personally, The speed of fists is for me, and main is cool

stone rune
#

slowest weapon in the game

stone sun
#

Nuh uh

stone rune
#

let me just go check something real quick

jagged hamlet
#

Fists are objectively kinda weak, though that of course doesn't prevent you from having fun with them

stone rune
#

shield 4:30, bow 4:39, spear 4:55, rail 5:04, sword 5:29.53, fists 5:29.73

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to me that looks like fists being the slowest weapon

stone sun
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Nuh uh

stone rune
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maybe you have invented some other way of reading numbers

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could publish to vixra

stone sun
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I don't care I just refuse to admit Sheild is faster

stone rune
#

its literally the fastest weapon in the game

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by far

stone sun
#

idc

jagged hamlet
#

jazz, you've met your match!

stone sun
#

Bro I just got 2 duo's for Artemis, One Posiden, One Demeter

regal inlet
stone sun
stone sun
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But Ill admit Bow+Artemis = DEATH

stone rune
#

bro

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i just want one sheet

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and i am getting 15x tart exit with lvl1 common flare after 15x tart exit with lvl1 common flare

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no one woman should be subjected to this

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im on like 6 runs with no sub6

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omg bro

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how is this taking so long

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its been 37 minutes

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ok we got it locked in now

solemn rune
#

I have been playing the game for a week so far; this game is a gem shadeohboy

mint coral
#

look who decided to show up

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I remembered how to fight this thing once I was left at 4 hp

solemn rune
#

Tiny vermin 🥹

latent moon
#

tony moment

desert tundra
#

tiny dummy

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frick him

stone sun
#

????

mint coral
#

Bow doesn't need you to have the weapon equipped first for its hidden aspect

stone sun
#

So If I were In theroy to find artemis with all requirements met, without the bow it would still let me get hidden aspect?

mint coral
#

Yeah

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Same goes for rail

stone sun
#

OH THANK GOD I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR LIKE 3 HOURS

mint coral
#

Arty/zeus do mention the respective weapon if equipped but not a requirement

stone sun
#

USING BOW OVER AND OVER AND SHE JUST MENTIONS SOME RANDOM AHHHH THING

stone sun
#

Also is it concerning how my Sword, Spear, and Fists hidden aspects are all legendary

mint coral
#

Why

stone sun
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||and haven't even done second ending||

latent moon
#

spear is required to get other hiddens

latent moon
#

and sword you get by talking to nyx so like not really concerning

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those are the easiest

stone sun
#

Legendary tho requires A LOT of blood

mint coral
#

15 per hidden no

stone sun
#

so 45 blood plus me working on sheild

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oh so 54

mint coral
#

Let me check the wiki lmao

stone sun
#

Fair

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also furthest chamber is only 70zagcry

mint coral
#

Unlock should be lvl 1 so just 15 I think

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Yeah it is 15, oops

acoustic flicker
#

Anyone else try getting the butterfly achivement only to realize its way harder that it sounds

stone sun
stone rune
#

its not that bad

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just use hestia

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you only need 15 chambesr

acoustic flicker
stone sun
#

So what, just get it 3 stars?

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is that what it is?

acoustic flicker
# stone sun is that what it is?

Than keep gives you 2% extraa damage per room cleared when @ 3 stars, achievement is too get it to 30% so 15 rooms without damage in one run

acoustic flicker
stone sun
#
  • with 70ish possible chambers thats an easy W, unless it has to be in a row
acoustic flicker
#

Doesnt need to be in a row but the small styx rooms dont count(at least as far as i can tell) which makes going for a build pretty hard.

stone sun
#

No they count

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I know they do

acoustic flicker
#

The small ones dont, only ones at the end of wings, i just checked wiki

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Pierced_Butterfly

Hades Wiki

Pierced Butterfly is a Keepsake obtained by giving Thanatos a gift of Nectar after besting him in his challenge. Its effects can be enhanced by clearing enough encounters with the keepsake equipped.

stone sun
#

BRUH my game be buggin

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YESSSs

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I FINALLY GOT BOW SECRET

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YESSSSs

acoustic flicker
#

POG

stone sun
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BROOOO

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I SWEAR

acoustic flicker
#

Hestia even on lvl1 feels a lot better for this, going to take a few attempts but i should have it now

stone sun
#

ARTEMIS TOOK THE AMMOUNT OF TIME IT GONNA TAKE SISYPHUS TO PUSH THE ROCK UP TO GIVE ME IT

stone rune
#

which one

acoustic flicker
#

Your in for a killer run from the sounds of it

stone sun
stone rune
#

what aspect

stone sun
#

Am I using currently?

stone rune
#

yeah\

stone sun
#

Legendary Gilgamesh 400 maim damage

stone rune
#

oh

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the aspect ever

stone sun
#

The WHAT aspect ever

stone rune
#

yeah it's certainly an aspect

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you can choose it

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it's possible to select gilgamesh on the fists aspect screen

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sure is

stone sun
#

Bro.... it's not that bad

stone rune
#

yeah it's definitely in the top 24 aspects for sure

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can say that definitely

stone sun
stone sun
stone rune
stone sun
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Actually I have a question for you what do YOU think is the best aspect in the game

stone rune
#

beowulf

stone sun
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Bro

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In my opinion the Downside outway the up sides

stone rune
#

it has literally no downsides

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that matter

stone sun
#

But I did ask for your opinion si

stone rune
stone sun
#

You take more damage, which could ruin a run depending on skill

stone rune
#

you take an absolutely minute amount of extra damag

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literally not noticeable

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in exchange for the highest dps in the game by far

stone sun
#

Then again, EACH WEAPON IS FOR A PERSONS PLAYSTYLE

stone rune
#

???

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theres no playstyle thats gonna make gilga do more damage than beo

acoustic flicker
# stone sun rn I have 10.5% on than keepsake

Nice my best was 24%, but that was coming out of tartarus with 18%, my other 20%+ runs have all been with me exiting tart with 20%. Which i honestly think it just means i have skill issue.

jagged hamlet
#

I'll give you playstyle, but some weapons are objectively good or bad

stone sun
#

Depends how crazy you are for Daedolus

stone sun
jagged hamlet
#

Damage is king in Hades, and there's 0% chance Gilgamesh ever approaches the sheer brokenness of Beowulf

stone rune
#

i wonder waht i could get in 1 try on butterfly

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i cannot find it in the keepsake thing

acoustic flicker
#

Its top left

stone rune
#

sick attitude bro

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ok i got hit twice in tart

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rip

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20%

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halting into meg circle attack is

stone sun
plush kelp
#

Ah, Demeter's Legendary doing what it does best

stone sun
#

W Lernie Time

stone rune
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out of aspho at 28%

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took 2 skips though

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pace is garbage

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probably the worst ive had in like 9 months

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4:24

stone sun
plush kelp
#

Worked for what?

stone sun
#

Killing Astereus in Thesus fight

plush kelp
#

He'll still appear there

acoustic flicker
plush kelp
#

But will fall the same way, since the boon shatters enemies that have 10% hp left

stone rune
#

bro i havent dodged an attack in years

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38% out of ely

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7:37 though

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i have exited ely over 2x faster than this lol

stone sun
#

Bri game tried to have me do Erebus for Coinszagcry

stone rune
#

it made the doors gold laurels though

stone sun
#

Hm*

#

?

acoustic flicker
# stone rune 38% out of ely

Nice, yeah i think hestia is the way i just need to get better at the rail and upgrade it some. Thats for tommorow tho

acoustic flicker
#

Only 11 min faster than my pb smh

stone rune
#

this is what happens when u dont play heat

stone sun
#

FAX

stone rune
#

my pb is over 5 min faster than this

stone sun
#

Im currently trying extreme measure extra (Which gives Big Boy a Upgrade)

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Thesus health was annilated by Gilgamesh with some hammer upgrades

stone rune
#

was it tho

stone sun
#

It was

#

Very

stone rune
#

how long did it take

stone sun
#

Less than a Minute - invisability time

stone rune
#

🗿

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meanwhile beo with multiple heroes times below 4 seconds including bubble time

acoustic flicker
stone rune
#

?

stone sun
#

Extreme Measures

stone rune
#

on em3 i have a couple heroes below 10 sec

stone sun
#

Nice

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No Hit Tiny Verman

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Vermin*

stone rune
#

i have not seen tony since february 2023 at most

stone sun
#

Everywhere I go I see his face

stone rune
#

because in all the like 4 unmodded runs i have gotten to styx since then they have not had tony

stone sun
#

Mod idea, All Bosses are Tonyified

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Fury Sisters = Tony Sisters
Bone Hydra = Tony Hydra
Astreus The Bull of Minos = Asterus The Vermin of Tony
Thesus the Great Hero King = Tony The great hero King

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Hades The God Of The Dead = Tony the God of the Vermin

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No Daddy Than this run sad times

#

Alright 15 minutes in fighting Hades

#

Time to see him upgraded

#

Nah Hades just pulled out f-ing Ceberus Aid

#

3RD PHASE

#

YES BAB7

#

BABY*

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breh I didn't get any reward

#

Oh wait because I beat Hades with fist already at 35 heat. Dang it

stone rune
#

thats not how bounties work

stone sun
#

You need to have above

#

I only used 10 to see just measures

stone rune
#

if you just had the one clear at 35 then 2 heat would still give you bounties

stone sun
#

EH

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WEIRD

#

OTHER than Beowolf whats best weapom

#

weapon

stone rune
#

depends on ur goal

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for speed hera

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for heat everything is complicated

stone sun
#

Than Build is a goal

#

I have Mort and Keepsake

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what weapon and thing

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but Beowolf being goofy

tepid light
stone sun
#

Em4?

plush kelp
#

Extreme Measures 4

tepid light
#

it's the thing you used to get third phase hades

stone sun
#

Ah I beat it first try with Gilgamesh, I feel accomplished

#

All the pros keep saying Gilgamesh Sucks

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so yahoo me

plush kelp
#

If you're comfortable with it, that's fine
You do you

stone rune
#

bro

stone sun
stone rune
#

there are two new people who have names starting with K and then clauses afterwards separated by punctuation

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how am i going to tell these people apart

#

impossible challenge

stone sun
#

Oh yeah

#

Kuja and Kenjaku

stone rune
#

im not actually reading a name

#

thats for peasants

stone sun
#

L

nocturne kelp
#

Give them new names

plush kelp
#

I'm literally named after a FFIX character lol

stone sun
plush kelp
#

Hey Theseus!

nocturne kelp
nocturne kelp
stone sun
#

Honest EM4 Club should be a roll or smth same with Max Pact

latent moon
# stone sun OTHER than Beowolf whats best weapom

if you meant aspects, then hera, achilles, eris, and hestia are good and top tier
if you meant weapons, bow and rail then. shield, bow, and rail are considered top 3 and sword, fists, and spear are considered bottom 3

stone sun
acoustic flicker
stone sun
acoustic flicker
#

Yeah im not sure how reasonable that is to do

stone sun
#

eh

stone rune
stone sun
#

bro I've never lost with fists

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Ever

stone rune
#

don't think i have either

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no i have

#

i forgot i tried to do fists 50 heat

stone sun
#

Oh, in that case yea Fists wouldnt be a great idea

stone rune
#

but you can streak indefinitely at low heat with any weapon with 0 challenge

stone sun
#

though you have to do it for 100%

#

Should I go Erebus with a Pom of Power Fight zues or posiden or go demeter

#

or Hermes

#

but honestly who chooses hermes in this

latent moon
#

it just doesnt have good range which inherently makes it weaker compared to other weapons

stone sun
latent moon
#

oh i forgot we can do those lmao

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i mean depends on the build

#

what else do you have

#

what aspect

stone rune
stone sun
#

It's ALL THE SAME

stone sun
stone rune
#

just take hermes

stone sun
#

Why?

latent moon
plush kelp
#

Hermes can be good.....

stone rune
#

because its the only good option

plush kelp
#

Extra dashes, speed, etc....

latent moon
#

is it first or second hermes

stone rune
#

trial sucks

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dem not that good

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erebus annoying

latent moon
#

i mean if it's hera dem is good

stone rune
#

werent they on gilga

latent moon
#

idk thats why i was asking

stone sun
latent moon
#

oh hermes

stone sun
#

Breh

latent moon
#

zeus pos dem dont do anything for you really

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except like zeus call i guess

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and tdash

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but trials annoying and dem is useless

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and gilga erebus kinda sus tbh

#

hermes could probably get you something more useful

stone sun
latent moon
#

lmao they all suck

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what call do you have

stone sun
#

Ares rn

latent moon
#

damn

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unfortunate

stone sun
#

Bro I'm invincable and do fast damage

latent moon
#

idk roll a dice and pick whatever number shows up

latent moon
#

ares call just exists for invincibility really

stone sun
#

Tony Hydra Time

latent moon
#

iframes and repositioning more or less

#

if you want invincibility and damage, pos call is a lot better

#

or rather athena's

stone sun
#

LERNIE VANQUISHED

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I have all Keepsakes which should I use

#

Sigil is locked rn

latent moon
#

probably acorn

#

nothing else is really that useful

#

coin purse if you're broke

stone sun
#

I mean there is

#

... Spearpoint

latent moon
#

that's not that useful unless you keep getting wombo comboed in every other room

stone sun
#

never tried acorn

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lets do it

fervent radish
#

Spear point is nice but just force Athena and get holy shield tbh

stone sun
#

I ain't about to go through all of Ely with that thing

latent moon
#

oh yeah spear point is just holy shield huh

#

never thought of it that way

stone sun
#

Should I do a run where everyone else decides my actions (Would take forever but would be fun)

fervent radish
#

Athena basically replaces atleast 3 keepsakes

fervent radish
fervent radish
#

I guess shawl

latent moon
#

less so acorn tbh bc legendary is a pain in the ass to get

#

but valid

fervent radish
#

Yeah that’s fair

stone sun
fervent radish
#

Rough

stone sun
#

beowolf*

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I have it

fervent radish
#

Cshot zag shield

stone sun
#

but never spent

#

any blood

fervent radish
#

That’s fine

#

Blood doesn’t really matter

stone sun
#

No like the 3 to unlock It I mean

fervent radish
#

Oh I c

fervent radish
latent moon
#

then spend the 3 to unlock it lmao

#

not like the levels really matter anyways

stone sun
#

Honestly Flame Wheel release is a WWWWW

fervent radish
#

Flame wheels are nice RR fodder

stiff obsidian
stone sun
#

Demeter: "Zag Daddy, Chillllll~

#

Literally just her

fervent radish
#

I’m gonna lose the ability to shill for RR soon. Ri3 arc starts after I get eris 50

latent moon
#

unfortunate

#

you can monodash shill tho

fervent radish
#

I will never stop monodash shill

#

But there’s no clear advantage, more of a preference at most

latent moon
#

i also still find it funny that flame wheel release isn't taken for speedrunning because you'd rather have endless flamewheels than endless blue men

stone sun
#

Sturdy is just an major LL

#

Ever play a game so much skin is coming off your thumb (Controller players)

fervent radish
#

You should take a break…doesn’t matter what platform you’re on

stone sun
#

NAH

#

Oh my nail is also cracked my guy

#

like Cracking

latent moon
#

jesus christ my dude stop playing

#

at no point should that ever be happening

stiff obsidian
#

Longest I've played in a stretch is probably 60 hours

stone sun
#

I'm only on the 15th run of the day gotta hit 50 run a day goal

stiff obsidian
#

With foodbreaks

stone sun
#

probably for me when I was on spring break and I stayed up and rarely took any breaks no food just there for a week

stiff obsidian
#

Yep

latent moon
stiff obsidian
#

How do you not eat for a week

fervent radish
#

🗿

stone sun
#

Just dont

#

also Equal Rights Equal fights

stiff obsidian
#

What I do is order a sub or something when I get too hungry watch YouTube while I eat and when I'm done back to game

fervent radish
#

Is it too late to say touch grass

latent moon
#

yeah

#

spring break already passed so they dont have time to touch grass anymore

stone sun
#

5 second Elysium duo

#

ERH It was in the coin room

#

Behind Zeus was drumroll Large Satyr

#

Might as well see what posiden is right?

#

Its gonna be tony

#

I can feel it

#

Nope just a large Bomber

#

DUO BOON

#

SEA STORm

#

OH NO CERBERUS DESTROYED, His meal in three bites

#

time to get cooked

stiff obsidian
#

sack is only decided afteryou enter the tunnel

stone sun
#

BRO HE WAS LITERALLY ONE SHOT AND HE HALFED MY HEALTH IN ONE SPIN

#

What starts with o and ends in ions

#

and sometimes makes you cry

plush kelp
#

Options

stiff obsidian
#

Opinions

plush kelp
#

Obsessions

latent moon
#

oranges

stiff obsidian
#

HUH

latent moon
#

yeah

stone sun
#

I love how NO ONE said Onions

plush kelp
#

Why would we say that? It's not like that was my immediate thought (it really wasn't lol)

stiff obsidian
#

What's an onion

stone sun
#

Bow is winning so Faw (Totally not 1 vote)

stiff obsidian
#

Polls are spammy

stone sun
#

Hm?

#

BOW WINNSSSSS

#

Aight

#

Actually

#

@stone rune I'll try your beowolf

#

after this poll Run

stone rune
#

start poseidon

#

get flare

#

then artemis

#

get attack or special

stone sun
#

Bro has the list

stone rune
#

get mirage shot duo

stone sun
stone sun
plush kelp
#

Beowulf changes the name of Casts from shot to flare

stone sun
#

oh ok

plush kelp
#

Flood shot -> Flood Flare

stone sun
#

anyway

#

One more vote

#

Sheild Wins

#

Beowolf

#

Sheild LVL 1

#

What keepsake

stone rune
#

poseidon

#

then artemis

plush kelp
#

Start with Poseidon, so take Poseidon's

stone rune
#

then hourglass

stone sun
#

What Pact or non

plush kelp
#

How used are you to the shield?

stone sun
#

I have not got passes Ely with it yet