h1-discussion

[jaunty sparrow]

Cmon

[sullen kettle]

but if it's true then

[jaunty sparrow]

If he got than simping

Whats your reason

[brisk trail]

Why

[sullen kettle]

He is fine

[wicked sage]

because romancing her would be a complete waste of time

imagine having to hear seductive voices for extra amounts of time

[jaunty sparrow]

And has a smart mouth

[sullen kettle]

romance hades

get out of the underworld quick

[wicked sage]

dawg

[jaunty sparrow]

Wait

[sullen kettle]

it would be somewhat normal in greek mythology

[jaunty sparrow]

Wait

Wait

The duo

The losers

The loser butt head duo

Are the only thing in my way to the final boss?

[brisk trail]

Why doesn’t hades just take the infernal arms? Is he stupid🤔

[jaunty sparrow]

I think thats also explained througj dialogue

That you yk

Skipped

[sullen kettle]

sometimes I accidentally skip dialogue

makes sad

[wicked sage]

you mean annoying dude without a ass and his bull freind

[jaunty sparrow]

Only dialogue i skip is god dialogue

[jaunty sparrow]

Yus

[sullen kettle]

I catch a glimpse and I think "damn looks important"

[jaunty sparrow]

I cannot beat them

I keep trying and i lose

[sullen kettle]

theseus

[jaunty sparrow]

I can easily beat the first boss

[sullen kettle]

He annoys me

[jaunty sparrow]

Mostly beat the second

[sullen kettle]

but also like idk I kinda like him

[jaunty sparrow]

I KNOW RIGHT

like

[wicked sage]

he is such an unlikeable character

[jaunty sparrow]

He can use the power of gods to help him

Thats unfair

[sullen kettle]

he really believes that it is a fair fight though which is crazy

[jaunty sparrow]

Fr

[sullen kettle]

nah fr who's side are they on

[jaunty sparrow]

Fr

[sullen kettle]

they need to make up their mind

[jaunty sparrow]

Like on one hand i get it

On the other hand

[sullen kettle]

say you want me on olympus but then directly impede my progress

Likeee

[jaunty sparrow]

Im about to buy the god of war trilogy

[sullen kettle]

okay...?

[latent moon]

they're just bored on olympus lmao

[jaunty sparrow]

For revenge

I want a hades game where you help hades kill the olympians

[latent moon]

could be a "prove your worth" kinda thing

[wicked sage]

their busy attracting mortals

[sullen kettle]

these gods have very fragile egos thh

in the trial of the gods

[jaunty sparrow]

Like i want a hades game that flips it

[sullen kettle]

why are you so mad I chose a different god

[jaunty sparrow]

So like

You work with hades

[wicked sage]

all trials are bad

[sullen kettle]

🙄

[jaunty sparrow]

Working through Olympia

To kill the gods

[sullen kettle]

wdym

[jaunty sparrow]

And the finall boss is a 2v2 you and hades vs zeus and Poseidon

[wicked sage]

trials are just really slow

[sullen kettle]

sounds good pitch it to the devs

[jaunty sparrow]

Fr

Even if its a short dkc

They nust die

Also

I reallt wanna know what a hades boon woild be like

[brisk trail]

Where

[jaunty sparrow]

Imagine being like

[jaunty sparrow]

Achilles or skelly i assume

[sullen kettle]

is there an apollo boon

[jaunty sparrow]

Imagine getting boons from the cythonic gods

[brisk trail]

Only in hades 2

[jaunty sparrow]

Like thanatos and nyx and hypnos

[sullen kettle]

chose artemis over him

[jaunty sparrow]

Im so hyped for thet game

[sullen kettle]

damn.

[brisk trail]

Same

[jaunty sparrow]

I freaking love chronos

[sullen kettle]

technically already have multiple boons from nyx

[jaunty sparrow]

Nah i mean

Like core boons

[sullen kettle]

yeah ik

[jaunty sparrow]

Like ones that use darkness

[brisk trail]

Nyx gives boons?

[jaunty sparrow]

The mirror

Technically

I yhink

[brisk trail]

Oh

I alr maxed out mirror rahh

[jaunty sparrow]

Also if you wabna be technical

All the god Boons are because of nyx

Like

If nyx wasnt helping you

[brisk trail]

How

[jaunty sparrow]

Youd never even hear of the gods

[jaunty sparrow]

Omfg bro

Did you spam x

[sullen kettle]

nyx is such a W honestly

[brisk trail]

Yes

[jaunty sparrow]

It is one if the first bits if dialogue in the game

She says she was the one who contacted the olypians to help zag

[brisk trail]

WHAT

[jaunty sparrow]

Bro

Start a new game at this point

[sullen kettle]

you guys won't believe what compelled me to buy this game

[jaunty sparrow]

Zag?

[sullen kettle]

no

[jaunty sparrow]

Me?

[sullen kettle]

I actually didn't even know he existed

Yeah ofc

[brisk trail]

No

[jaunty sparrow]

L

[sullen kettle]

lowkey it starts like 8 years ago

is when the seeds were planyed

[jaunty sparrow]

Do you know zags mommy is persephony

[brisk trail]

I just forget about dialogue

[sullen kettle]

I was a big percy jackson and greek mythology fan

[jaunty sparrow]

Same bro

I bought it the other day

[sullen kettle]

I lowkey forgot about it but fast forward to MARCH 8 2024

[brisk trail]

I got hades because it was free on netflix games

[sullen kettle]

Fortnite chapter 5 season 2 releases

greek mythology themed

made me interested in greek mythology again

decided that I wanted to see games that explored that and got hades

[brisk trail]

[sullen kettle]

I got it like 2-3 days ago

and 25 hours

though tbf I had no work or school so I was able to sink a lot of time into it

bottom line is, fortnite made me buy hades

[jaunty sparrow]

Nah stfu

Stfu

Stfu rn

We twins fr

We the same bro

[sullen kettle]

LMAOO

[jaunty sparrow]

Aint no way

Thats the exact same reason

[sullen kettle]

nah that's crazy

😭

[jaunty sparrow]

I got hades cause it was on sale and fort made me love Greek mythos again

Liek 2-3 days ago i got it

[sullen kettle]

damn we are the same person

That's actually insane tho

[jaunty sparrow]

Fr

[sullen kettle]

fortnite doing free advertisement for hades

[jaunty sparrow]

We twinning

Yk there’s gonna be a colab

[sullen kettle]

problem is that I play hades more thwn fort now

[sullen kettle]

fr?

[jaunty sparrow]

I hope

Actually i dont hopeb

We dont need more mfs who beef with gods

We got kratos

[wicked sage]

radby

[jaunty sparrow]

In hades 2

Theu shluld add a glock

[sullen kettle]

glock is my favorite weapon

[jaunty sparrow]

Lmao

[sullen kettle]

fr tho my favorite is rail

[jaunty sparrow]

I still can’t get over the gun

[sullen kettle]

cleared twice with it, no clears with anything else

[jaunty sparrow]

It was so unexpected

Got all these greek weapons

Then just

AR

Its even an eagle

[sullen kettle]

it was but I got used to it

[jaunty sparrow]

America!?!?

[wicked sage]

not really, hestia is a ar + sniper

[sullen kettle]

american mythology

[sullen kettle]

• rocket launcher

Oh wait

hestia

never seen it TBH

[wicked sage]

thats eris

[sullen kettle]

my dumb ass spent all my titan blood on aspect of zag first day

on the rail

I don't even use ammo 😭😭

I thought I would need it

[wicked sage]

"After you manually reload, your next shot is Empowered' - Hestia Description

so its a sniper rifle essentially with some low AR power

[jaunty sparrow]

Lmao

[wicked sage]

dead chat

[sullen kettle]

i shiuld sleep

4 am and got work at 11

only gonna get 5 hours of sleep

[wicked sage]

sleep well

[jaunty sparrow]

…

Tf just happened

Aint no shot this happened

Nah nah wtf

[wicked sage]

your twin went to sleep

[jaunty sparrow]

I put on zeus ring

To force him in

I GOT A HAMMER

5 times in a row now

[wicked sage]

i assume you were in asphodel or ely

[jaunty sparrow]

This is the 5th time i started with a hammer

[jaunty sparrow]

No

Start of the run

[wicked sage]

rather lucky, 25% chance for a hammer at the start but nothing too crazy

[jaunty sparrow]

Can’t complain about starting with flurry jab

[jaunty sparrow]

Yea but 5 times in a row

[wicked sage]

flurry jab is badass

so is flurry shot

[jaunty sparrow]

BRO HOW

i have the zeus ring

He should be forced in

But so far

Its gone

Hammer, key and now centaur heart

Wtf is this run

[wicked sage]

random

but ive experienced it

[jaunty sparrow]

AGAIN

no zeus

This ain’t a boonless run!

STOP IT

WHY

now its obols

Wtf is going on

What is this rng

Why why why

OMFG

[wicked sage]

wut

[jaunty sparrow]

I aint lying okay

I have only gotten items

I have not seen a single god

Its been like 5 rooms

FINALLY

bro

I am not lying

I went through the entire

Tartar

One god room

ONE

[last veldt]

Do you have Dark Foresight enabled in the mirror?

[proper tusk]

aaaaaaaaghh

had my best tartarus + asphodel ever

like 4:10 into elysium

and then 8:15 into styx

[jaunty sparrow]

Whats that

Also is it worth forcing artemis in

[proper tusk]

speedrunning is hard and im quitting forever

[jaunty sparrow]

I have cleared bone hydra with only 2 cores

And i have stupid aphrodite in my god pool

[last veldt]

3rd from the bottom talent on the mirror of night.

[jaunty sparrow]

I sold her boon

But idk if itll purge her from the pool

[proper tusk]

it won’t

[last veldt]

It does not.

[jaunty sparrow]

Damn

Guess im forcing artemis in

Sigh

I also need athena

Goddamit

L run

L hammer

Serrated point or breaching skewer

[proper tusk]

probably serrated point

[jaunty sparrow]

Sigh

I can salvage this

[proper tusk]

unless you have flurry jab i think?

iirc it kind of ruins flurry jab but if you don’t have flurry jab it’s a good substitute

[jaunty sparrow]

I do

Okay good

Got dio call

And art special

Just need art ares duo

And athena dash

THAN!!!

[brisk trail]

How do i play the lyre

[steep condor]

step one: buy it from the contractor
step 2: go into your room. use the lyre
step 3: ???
step 4: profit

[jaunty sparrow]

Guys

Wish me luck

Duo boss time

This build sucks because bad rng

[steep condor]

goid luck, u can do it

[jaunty sparrow]

YESSSSS

I did it

Hro

No shot they made the final boss bs

No. 1 rule in game development

Bosses who summon suck

[stiff obsidian]

every single boss in hades

[wicked sage]

aka every boss in hades

[jaunty sparrow]

True

I forgot about that

But the duo doesnt

Meg its barely a factor

The hydra makes sense

[wicked sage]

but hades...

[jaunty sparrow]

The only bad one is hades

He summons bs enemies with armour

That just make the whole fight jarder

[proper tusk]

heroes summon giant explosions of various elements everywhere

that has to count

[jaunty sparrow]

I almost finished him first time

[jaunty sparrow]

Nah

Thats different

[proper tusk]

tbf

you can just ignore them

[jaunty sparrow]

Its like aoes of other bosses

[proper tusk]

and they disappear

[jaunty sparrow]

Not really

I started the fight with 16 hp

And no death defients

[wicked sage]

or summons the armor itself

[jaunty sparrow]

Atleast i found a new god

[last veldt]

Demeter?

[jaunty sparrow]

Yuh

Pretty cool

Get it?

Pretty COOL

cuz she is icey

[wicked sage]

punny

[jaunty sparrow]

Is she good?

My attacks do more dmg when the enemy is cold

[wicked sage]

she's ok

nothing too "cool"

[jaunty sparrow]

Stfu

[wicked sage]

sori : (

[jaunty sparrow]

Bad pun

But like the second i actually tried to make a build

I almost won

Thats pretty cool

[wicked sage]

you might also see some new enemies in tartarus

[last veldt]

Chill slows enemies down a little and there are a few half decent 2nd tier boons for extra damage. She's okay, and sometimes very good for certain weapons.

Mid tier

[wicked sage]

she speaks like a badass

[jaunty sparrow]

Next run I’ll use tidal dash

For a free win

[wicked sage]

for what weapon

[jaunty sparrow]

Spear

[stiff obsidian]

pretty much all she does

[wicked sage]

anyways

rigby

have you seen the new enemies

[last veldt]

Get a 2nd Poseidon core boon and Zeus to unlock sea storm.

[jaunty sparrow]

Note to self

Serrated point is trash

[jaunty sparrow]

The hands?

[wicked sage]

yes, and also a really annoying miniboss

[jaunty sparrow]

Who

When

Ngl

Dem ruined my run

[brisk trail]

What happens if u give contractor a new desk

[jaunty sparrow]

He gets a new desk

[brisk trail]

And then

[rustic vale]

?

This isn’t a thing

[jaunty sparrow]

It feels like it

[brisk trail]

He’s prob talking about demeter attack buff or smth

[rustic vale]

that may just be the +% boost from dem

She’s got the same stats as athena for attack & special dmg

[jaunty sparrow]

Holy moly

I need to do more of the list

15 anbrosia

I just need massive spin nowb

Ajd i have finished the spear

[rustic vale]

It’s so cursed that I can 32 clear with a meme spreadfire shackle build but not with achilles

[jaunty sparrow]

How you so bad

[rustic vale]

?

[jaunty sparrow]

Woth spear

[rustic vale]

I don’t know

That’s the issue

[jaunty sparrow]

Its easy to use

Just aim

Boom you hit someone

[rustic vale]

mhm dude

Every weapon is like that but

I think my spear play is just sloppy

[jaunty sparrow]

Just use

[rustic vale]

Since flurry jab is one of the best hammers but it messes with dash iframes

[jaunty sparrow]

Flurry jab and tripple

And zeus attack

[rustic vale]

So I’m getting messed by that

or I get thrown off by serrated’s dash down

I may just build GY at this point instead of running achilles

[jaunty sparrow]

Never use serrated

[steep condor]

do they have another status and do you have the mirror talent privileged status?

[rustic vale]

Serrated isn’t a bad hammer

[jaunty sparrow]

Yes it is

[rustic vale]

No it isn’t

The dash down sucks but the boost is well worth it

it’s not as good as flurry but it’s a discount option

[jaunty sparrow]

Not really

[rustic vale]

[jaunty sparrow]

Its terrible

The dash down isnt worth it

[proper tusk]

serrated with a decent chaos dash strike up boon makes spear bearable

[rustic vale]

[proper tusk]

which makes it good

[jaunty sparrow]

Tripple flurry jab is better

[rustic vale]

Yes that is better

But that doesn’t make serrated ad

Serrated is just a discount option

compared to flurry

But it is not bad

[jaunty sparrow]

Is there a prophecy for chaos?

[rustic vale]

just like how on rail you’d pretty much always rather cluster then triple bomb but you’d take triple anyways if you didn’t see cluster

[jaunty sparrow]

To get all his boons

[rustic vale]

Yes

[jaunty sparrow]

K

[rustic vale]

ok it really is a case of my spear play being sloppy

[jaunty sparrow]

Man i’ve had all these before

Sigh

[rustic vale]

I’m too impatient with it

I let myself attack for a little longer than I should

[jaunty sparrow]

Nice

Owl pendant is max

Once i get massive spin i can move onto the sword

[rustic vale]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

Sword hammers

[jaunty sparrow]

Wait

Do i need duo bonds for the list

For specific gods

[stiff obsidian]

nice

[rustic vale]

No theres a seperate prophecy for all the duos

I need to calm down with the spear

[jaunty sparrow]

Why

[rustic vale]

I keep attacking more than I should

[jaunty sparrow]

Im always aggressive with it

And it works fine

[rustic vale]

I’m playing with enemies that attack 40% faster

[jaunty sparrow]

L

[rustic vale]

and so I keep leaving myself open to it

this isn’t an issue with any other weapon but with spear I don’t have a good sense of when I’ll kill the enemies

So I’ll be like yeah I can afford 1 more attack and kill them

[jaunty sparrow]

So im realizing

I need my cores filled

If i want the rarer boons

[rustic vale]

…cores being filled won’t boost your boon rarity

you’ll end up seeing more secondary/duos/legendaries if that’s what you mean

[jaunty sparrow]

It stops me getting core boons

[rustic vale]

yes

but that doesn’t boost boon rarities

It does give you higher odds at seeing duos and legendaries though

[jaunty sparrow]

Not what i meant

[rustic vale]

do you mean just seeing regular secondary boons

It does that too but

Those aren’t exactly rarer

[jaunty sparrow]

Not what i meant

[rustic vale]

wdtm then

[jaunty sparrow]

I mean

I wont see core boons

Ill see the rarer secondary boons

That just buff

[rustic vale]

That’s what I said

[rustic vale]

.

I swear I said this yesterday when I was explaining how you go about controlling your builss

.

[jaunty sparrow]

For the first tine

Elysium didnt offer a hammer straight away

[rustic vale]

Yeah it’s not guaranteed

[jaunty sparrow]

Imma pray o get massive spin

[rustic vale]

Oh my

[jaunty sparrow]

Damn

Didnt get it

[rustic vale]

Screw it I’m switching to GY

[jaunty sparrow]

Y

[rustic vale]

Safety

[jaunty sparrow]

I just realized

I have a titans blood

Which aspect to get

[rustic vale]

Hmm

What do you already have?

[jaunty sparrow]

Only spear aspects

[rustic vale]

If you’re going to sword you’ll want nemesis

if shield: zeus, if bow: hera (or zagreus), if fists: demeter, if rail: eris

[jaunty sparrow]

I have to do a run with every keepsake for the list?

[rustic vale]

yeah

[jaunty sparrow]

Annoying

Oh wait

[rustic vale]

List is optional

[jaunty sparrow]

I just put em on

Then go to the table

And it gives me them

See rn i dont have the lucky tooth checked off

Now its on

And irs checked off

Whats the broken spearpoint

[rustic vale]

Patroclus’s keepsake

story man in Ely

[jaunty sparrow]

Dammit

I forgot ge existed

Do i need zags parents keepsakes

[rustic vale]

look at the prophecy and check

Are there names you don’t recognise

[jaunty sparrow]

Lambent plume

[rustic vale]

hermes

[jaunty sparrow]

Wait i got that

Okay so i just need dudes keepsake

And im done

I need massive spin for the spear

And thats done

Ah crap

I made a mistakev

I got flurry jab

[brisk trail]

Whats an erebus gate?

[jaunty sparrow]

Sounds fancy

[brisk trail]

I saw it in the house contractor

[rustic vale]

Meet heat requirement -> enter -> battle a room without getting hit -> get a boosted reward

[rustic vale]

That’s how erebus gates work

They pop up like chaos gates and tell you what you’re getting beforehand

you need to be at 5/10/15 heat to enter them in tart/asphodel/elysium respectively

[jaunty sparrow]

Im confused

How an i missing 2 areas in the udberoerld

Underworld

[rustic vale]

Have you gotten past Heroes yet

one of those 2 is most definitely Erebus

and id you haven’t beaten dad yet you won’t have the last one

if you haven’t beaten dad yet you also won’t have Erebus

[jaunty sparrow]

Ah

Why do they gove enemies armour

It sucks

They become boring damage sponges

Instesd of it being like how an i gonna beat these enemies

Its

When am i gonna best en

[rustic vale]

You don’t even know that half of it

[jaunty sparrow]

What

[rustic vale]

BP

Armoured enemies get random perks

[jaunty sparrow]

Big poop?

[rustic vale]

Can’t remember what the acronym stands for atm

Just remember that’s the name for what I’m talking about and that’s what it does

[jaunty sparrow]

Instead of super armour and a 2nd health bar

Some enemies should just have super armour

[rustic vale]

some do

[jaunty sparrow]

Not bosses

[rustic vale]

some do.

Thwomps do

[jaunty sparrow]

Oh them

No i just mean

[last veldt]

Benefits Package

[jaunty sparrow]

Remove second health ber

Leave super armour

Way better version of armoured enemies

[rustic vale]

Nah the second health bar is what stops you from steamrolling everythi mg

And it barely holds together that job

when you’re speedrunning

[jaunty sparrow]

Nah

Its just a way to drag out fights

[rustic vale]

You would rather every single encounter be a ton of no hp enemies?

And I mean if you want it to be more interesting benefits package will give them all random perks once you’ve beaten Hades if you decide to switch it on

[jaunty sparrow]

Elysium time

[rustic vale]

Finally

Now I just need styx to go fine

Wait that was a no patty Ely

[brisk trail]

How do i earn diamonds other than killing learnie

3 diamonds for freeing orpheus is crazy

[rustic vale]

Have you beaten Hades yet

[brisk trail]

Yes

[rustic vale]

your options are killing the Hydra (will be able to gain more post Hades), trading for them, and fishing in the overworld

[brisk trail]

( the boss )

[rustic vale]

Yeah the boss that’s what I meant

Heat, Trading & fishing

[jaunty sparrow]

Help me

[rustic vale]

Prophecies too

[jaunty sparrow]

Idk whats going on

[brisk trail]

I have fishing rod but i have NEVER caught a single fish, overworld or underworld

[jaunty sparrow]

Im attacking and things are flying around

Enemies are dying

[rustic vale]

What weapon/ what have you got on attack & hammers

And is it a challenge room?

[jaunty sparrow]

Its every room

Oh

[rustic vale]

That’s elysium for you

[jaunty sparrow]

Its because of support fire

Everytine i hit an attack it shoots an arrow

[rustic vale]

support fire is the screen clutter boon

[jaunty sparrow]

I’ve just been taking things with the little scroll

To do the list

[rustic vale]

Least bang for most screen clutter

[jaunty sparrow]

Give me elysium dude

Awe i died

Probably because

I COUKDNT SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING

[rustic vale]

Dang that was the closest I’ve gotten to my 32 with spear in a whike

Dad was at like 50% of his second phase but the game had decided I would get 0 dps boons so

[jaunty sparrow]

Nice

If i use hades spear will i have a higher chance at spin buffs

[rustic vale]

Slightly

Since it removes flurry jab from available hammers

So your odds go up a tinsy bit

[jaunty sparrow]

Better than nothing rightb

[rustic vale]

Tbh you’re more likely to see it on achilles

Achilles blocks exploding launcher, charged skewer and chain skewer

3 hammers off compared to Hades’ 1

[jaunty sparrow]

Oh why

[rustic vale]

because achilles changes your special

So those 3 hammers just can’t work with it

[jaunty sparrow]

Ah

[rustic vale]

as opposed to Hades where the only thing that wouldnmt work is flurry removing your ability to spin

Which is the main point of the aspect

[jaunty sparrow]

I got it

[jaunty sparrow]

Why chain skewer

[rustic vale]

Because it makes your spear ricochet around randomly

[brisk trail]

What boons r good for those punching things

[jaunty sparrow]

You can still retrieve it

[brisk trail]

I got talos aspect n its rlly good for me

[rustic vale]

Yeah but it removes your ability to properly use it

[jaunty sparrow]

True

[rustic vale]

Fists have a low damage fast attack & a higher damage slower special so it’s flat damage on attack & +% special

hangover, zeus, and ares on strike

for hangover and zeus you want aphrodite on special ideally

[brisk trail]

Alr

[rustic vale]

for ares you want athena on special, dash, and look for merciful end

[rustic vale]

Talos is one of the fists aspects that’s for sure

[brisk trail]

Is artemis good

[brisk trail]

Ight

[rustic vale]

for fists? Not really

[brisk trail]

Oh damn

[rustic vale]

She’s ~fine for aspect of demeter special

[brisk trail]

I got spearpoint rn so rip

[rustic vale]

And I guess if you really wanted to do hunting blades

You would take her on talos special

And for merciful end you could take her on cast so that you could get deadly reversal & an essentially permanent 20% crit chance on everything

but that would get in the way of your finding merciful end odds

[brisk trail]

Yep

Wait pos is good right since knockback, n i could jst pull them again lol

[upper wolf]

talos hunting blade

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[rustic vale]

Ehhh

Tidal dash is tidal dash, universally good. Ping pong with talos & pos special is

I have enjoyed blizzard shot talos though

[jaunty sparrow]

I got athenas final boon

[brisk trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329403875117236225/1218882843271495720/IMG_3873.png?ex=6609481b&is=65f6d31b&hm=610981e1d3998e4f858611621e89c1b24587e1803e9b4f99d517f6a52291e5e5& why does this dialogue repeat..

I just saw a key w a boss icon before entering a ‘encounter’ then it was a healing fountain lmao

[brisk trail]

..............

Tisisphone finally said zagreus to me

How do i use weapons like twin fist which don’t attack many enemies in an encounter, i’m not used to it tbh

I used to like it in tart but now i kinda hate it in asphodel

Whats a good boom for sheidl

[gray apex]

It just doesn't have that much reach. Improving the way you path through rooms and your enemy pattern recognition is the best thing you can do to make any weapon feel better, on some it's more noticeable and fists are one of them.

[brisk trail]

I’ve been spending the past hr trying to romance meg am i even sane anymore

[brisk trail]

Ohh alr

[slate laurel]

Any solution? Getting this but report window after starting the saved file

[sullen kettle]

I almost (almost) killed ||hades|| with the fists

notice how I said almost (I wasn't successful) 😭😭😭

[brisk trail]

Rip

[sullen kettle]

Though I was running a bootleg dodge chance build

[brisk trail]

Lmao

[sullen kettle]

and I thought that zeus's lightning on attack boon was pretty good

[sullen kettle]

I only had a little titan blood

oh and I was stupid

I built up hermes' boon dodge chance for the whole game

[upper wolf]

zeus lighthing is amazing on fist

[sullen kettle]

and I ruined everything I set up because I forgot and switched it out

[upper wolf]

second best build behind merciful end

but that's because merciful end is OP

[sullen kettle]

just looked it up

sounds crazy

need to get that

[upper wolf]

it's crazy

[sullen kettle]

lightning was good I need to try it again

hope I get it but also I need to set up hermes feather since the start

sad

[upper wolf]

I mean

"need" might be a strong word here

[sullen kettle]

probably

but I find it easier to clear quickly in tartarus

ashphodel I can clear quickly but also take trillions of magma damage

elysian enemies are too tanky to clear quickly

[last veldt]

The opportunity cost of taking the plume is very high.

[jaunty sparrow]

Yes

Finally

When does dude and bull get replaced

[nocturne kelp]

Nein

[brisk trail]

Yo

[brisk trail]

Mever

[jaunty sparrow]

Tf

Why

[nocturne kelp]

Because

Nein

[brisk trail]

Bro himself came n confirm

[brisk trail]

Who would replace theseus bro

[jaunty sparrow]

Heracles

[nocturne kelp]

Ja

[jaunty sparrow]

Zag literally said it himself

Or asked

[nocturne kelp]

Anyways hi hello hi

[nocturne kelp]

He's overrated :/

[jaunty sparrow]

Youre annoying

[brisk trail]

Hello

[jaunty sparrow]

Stop hiding behind the shield

[brisk trail]

Heracles doesn’t appear

[jaunty sparrow]

Sad

[brisk trail]

Backstab

[jaunty sparrow]

Still annoying

[brisk trail]

U get extra dmg

[nocturne kelp]

Nein.

[nocturne kelp]

Ja!!

[brisk trail]

The only thing annoying is his spear attacks when ur fighting asterius tbh

[nocturne kelp]

:3

[brisk trail]

Who is this blueblob

[jaunty sparrow]

Dave

[brisk trail]

From what game

Wait shoot its monday tommorow noooo

[jaunty sparrow]

Dave from dave

[brisk trail]

I’ll have to wait 8hrs till i can play hades tmr

[brisk trail]

What

[jaunty sparrow]

Idfk

[brisk trail]

Y u duckboss now

[jaunty sparrow]

Y not

[nocturne kelp]

Idk‼️‼️

[jaunty sparrow]

[nocturne kelp]

:3

[jaunty sparrow]

Yes

[nocturne kelp]

I wonder if I can send my insane clipboards in here (not in this channel)

[jaunty sparrow]

[nocturne kelp]

Teehee

[maiden narwhal]

man, no wonder people speedrun

there's nothing else to do

[fervent radish]

Real

[maiden narwhal]

lmaaaooo thesus is like

OLYMPUS, PLEASE AVENGE MY CHARIOT!

[upper wolf]

I like high heat more than speedrunning

[nocturne kelp]

I'm gonna do a back-flip with my chariot once I get zeus' aid

🙁

[latent moon]

Lmao yeah after everything there's just heat, speed, and fresh file if you want to challenge yourself basically

[nocturne kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-banana-che-gira-spinning-banana-banane-tournante-draaiende-banaan-gif-495340962810846339

[upper wolf]

Potassium

[nocturne kelp]

Kris get the banana

[maiden narwhal]

yeah but how high you going to go?

how much further, after 54

i suppose playing with ri takes some real skill

[maiden narwhal]

is there a mod for fresh file weapon?

wouldn't mind trying zeus or eris clear

[fervent radish]

I’m going for 60/62

[maiden narwhal]

wow

every one heat point after 50 is like adding ten

[fervent radish]

Real

[maiden narwhal]

what does 62 leave? ri and hs?

[fervent radish]

No, I take hs at 50

[maiden narwhal]

gangster

[fervent radish]

There’s just ri4 not taken

Which is 2

[maiden narwhal]

aah

yeah no mirror is crazy

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[maiden narwhal]

basically fresh file but spicy

[fervent radish]

But honestly

[jaunty sparrow]

Hades is such a mid boss

Istg

[fervent radish]

I think I’m gonna do some combo of boonless, mirrorless, 32 zeus to prep for 56

[jaunty sparrow]

First time getting to him and a random ass enemy killed me

[fervent radish]

Rough

[jaunty sparrow]

How you gonna be the final boss and almost lose to a mf with 16 hp

[maiden narwhal]

32 is easyER than 50..
but it's not free

theseus killed me without acorn

[fervent radish]

Haha

[latent moon]

Yeah but idk what is it lol

[maiden narwhal]

maybe no acorn was a bit too cavalier

[jaunty sparrow]

I walked into that fight with 16hp a spear and a dream

[fervent radish]

Yeah I assume you were doing shackle?

[jaunty sparrow]

What does acorn do?

[maiden narwhal]

no eris em4

[fervent radish]

Ah got it

[maiden narwhal]

but i went utility

[fervent radish]

Hourglass ely?

[maiden narwhal]

because it feels pretty free

[fervent radish]

Or what

[maiden narwhal]

without the top half of the pact acftive

[jaunty sparrow]

Whats eris

[nocturne kelp]

Aspect

[maiden narwhal]

coinpurse

[jaunty sparrow]

Of?

[fervent radish]

Oof

[maiden narwhal]

rail

[fervent radish]

Honestly

[jaunty sparrow]

Tf is rail

[maiden narwhal]

read the wiki, rigby

[fervent radish]

Asterius does an annoying amount of damage

[maiden narwhal]

what are you, eleven?

[fervent radish]

It’s the fun

Gun

[jaunty sparrow]

Ohhh

America the weapon

[maiden narwhal]

yeah i almost had him
i was too free with my defiances

honestly learning how to play dd again

been too long with sd

[fervent radish]

And Theseus can shred you without PL with his charges

[jaunty sparrow]

No im somebody with a question not wanting to scour a wiki searching for an answer

[fervent radish]

Keep SD lol

Unless you’re really only dying to bosses

Oh but i guess for practucd

DD makes sense

[maiden narwhal]

you could be both

and use the discussion discord for questions about build and gameplay
not for the basics like "what are the weapons in hades"

or go to the new players channel where i can't see you

[fervent radish]

Have you tried using save states

[maiden narwhal]

not yet

[nocturne kelp]

Teehee

[jaunty sparrow]

I didn’t ask what a weapon is

I asked what rail was

[nocturne kelp]

The gun thingy

[maiden narwhal]

gg

[fervent radish]

Not a bad idea

[jaunty sparrow]

I know now

[maiden narwhal]

yeah false had offered me some of his

[fervent radish]

If you’re entering runs just for practice at lower heat

[maiden narwhal]

i jsut want to see what em4 at 32 is like

if i can do that, i won't feel the need to do it at 54

[fervent radish]

Oh fair enough lol

Though

[nocturne kelp]

Btw the acorn is like, a shield for you during bossfights

[jaunty sparrow]

Ahv

[stiff obsidian]

i was trying to create a savestate at 45 heat and then i died in a random chamber and nearly uninstalled

[jaunty sparrow]

Didn’t remeber what it did

[fervent radish]

Eris handles JS particularly well, so you could do my plan for 56, which is EM3 RI2 and everything else max

[maiden narwhal]

mood

[nocturne kelp]

It lasts after you get hit 4 times

Or 5

[fervent radish]

5

[nocturne kelp]

Idk

I don't remember

[jaunty sparrow]

It cancels dmg?

[maiden narwhal]

5

[nocturne kelp]

Yeah

[maiden narwhal]

it's 5 free hits

bit hits or smol hits

whatever

could lose them in a second if you stand there for asterius swing

[fervent radish]

Pretty strong

[fervent radish]

Theseus guns

[jaunty sparrow]

Damn

That shi is useful

Wish i knew about it

[fervent radish]

One of the best keepsakes in the game yeah

[maiden narwhal]

lmao theseus chariot is like corky

[nocturne kelp]

Pewpew

[maiden narwhal]

he's way more dangerous when he's got the shield

[fervent radish]

Honestly yeah

[nocturne kelp]

I'm innocent I swear

[mint coral]

Em3 is still more annoying

[maiden narwhal]

hey you're like a reddit novelty account!

[mint coral]

Mr.Steal your acorn charges

[maiden narwhal]

i hate reddit novelty accounts

[nocturne kelp]

IM INNOCENT!!!

[jaunty sparrow]

[nocturne kelp]

PLEASE

[jaunty sparrow]

Wanna hear something funny

[nocturne kelp]

Yesy

Yes

[jaunty sparrow]

I almost beat theseus and mino with a bs build

[maiden narwhal]

i was halfway through asphodel with eris before i remembered to toggle aim at cursor off

horrible

[jaunty sparrow]

Like everything i picked was just to fill the list

And i still almost won

It was actually semi decent

[fervent radish]

What did you have

[jaunty sparrow]

Too bad it filled the screen with like 100 million things

[jaunty sparrow]

No clue

[fervent radish]

Soup is a good build

[jaunty sparrow]

Had no idea what was going on

[nocturne kelp]

Soup

[fervent radish]

Soup

[maiden narwhal]

it's a roguelike every run you get stronger they'll be drivebys soon

[nocturne kelp]

Soup

Perpetual soup

[jaunty sparrow]

Hehe

[fervent radish]

Flat damage soup

[jaunty sparrow]

They already are

[maiden narwhal]

o rly

[jaunty sparrow]

I just couldn’t see half their attacks

[maiden narwhal]

sounds like they just pwnt you

[fervent radish]

You haven’t beaten them yet

[jaunty sparrow]

So i died

[maiden narwhal]

oh is that all

[jaunty sparrow]

No i did

[maiden narwhal]

you've beaten them

[jaunty sparrow]

Got to hades

[fervent radish]

Oh ok

Oh right

[jaunty sparrow]

With 16hp

Nearly won

[fervent radish]

Skill issue

[jaunty sparrow]

I died to the exploding skull

[maiden narwhal]

yeah so what i'm saying is.. soon heroes will be like just another miniboss

[fervent radish]

I mean

[maiden narwhal]

then you'll discover heat
and em3
then it'll be something else again

[nocturne kelp]

Which phase you died to, tho

[fervent radish]

If you’re speedrunning maybe

[jaunty sparrow]

Idfk

[nocturne kelp]

He has two phases

[jaunty sparrow]

Probably first phase

I’ll get him next time i try

[maiden narwhal]

honestly my strategy with theseus has always been to spam dash and attack repeatedly until he's dead and i have v high success rate

so just do that

don't bother with telegraphs and patterns and phases

[jaunty sparrow]

Valid

[fervent radish]

That only really works if you have aoe

Like tidal dash or whatever

[jaunty sparrow]

[nocturne kelp]

Teehee

[maiden narwhal]

inaccurate it works with everything forever

[jaunty sparrow]

I tried tidal dash

So mid

[maiden narwhal]

the way hades is set up, the last fight is way easier than the first fight

[jaunty sparrow]

Did like 20 dmg

[maiden narwhal]

furies are much harder than daddy

by the time you're at heroes, your build should be going nicely

they should not pose much of a threat

until pact restrictions

[nocturne kelp]

I almost replied with smth very crazy to that!!

[jaunty sparrow]

It is true

Ngl

[maiden narwhal]

well unless you were agreeing with me, it WOULD be crazy, cause you'd be wrong!

[jaunty sparrow]

I don’t think hades actually hit me

[maiden narwhal]

he will

[nocturne kelp]

I actually agree

[maiden narwhal]

you'll die to him a lot

[jaunty sparrow]

Doubt it

[nocturne kelp]

Yeah

[maiden narwhal]

bet you a dollar

[jaunty sparrow]

Bet you a dog

[maiden narwhal]

you can't afford a dog

[jaunty sparrow]

True

But like

I did the die to hades

I died to a summon

[maiden narwhal]

ok

next time you'll die to hades

don't worry

[jaunty sparrow]

Nah

A 1v1 is easy

Its when theres multiple its hard

[maiden narwhal]

you got this

[nocturne kelp]

Next time try to escape using the shield, I think it'll help

Idk

[jaunty sparrow]

Ew no

I ain’t you

[nocturne kelp]

That's your choice

[maiden narwhal]

shield is the best weapon in the game

[jaunty sparrow]

I don’t hide behind a shield

[nocturne kelp]

Yeah

[jaunty sparrow]

I ain’t a wimp

[maiden narwhal]

you don't hide behind it you bullrush into the middle of the pack with it

[jaunty sparrow]

My mentality is

If it isnt hard

Make it hard

[nocturne kelp]

It'll help you dodge tho, but that's your choice

[jaunty sparrow]

Achilles spear >

[maiden narwhal]

lmao

good luck

i mean achilles is great, but really

good luck

[jaunty sparrow]

I dont need luck

[nocturne kelp]

What do u need

[jaunty sparrow]

I need

Aphrodite to go away

She wont stop appearing

[maiden narwhal]

she bae

[jaunty sparrow]

She butt

She ruins my builds

[maiden narwhal]

your instincts are way off

good thing you joined the discord

you'll learn the meta soon

[jaunty sparrow]

Meta is for betas who dont know how to have fun

Im a pure blooded gamer

If its cool i use it

[nocturne kelp]

Her aid can be a bit useful btw

[maiden narwhal]

should i purge epic blood frenzy?
i have common urge to kill for fodder

[jaunty sparrow]

I dont need it tho

I need

[nocturne kelp]

She takes over a foe and makes them fight other foes for you, if that's the correct way to say it IM NERVOUS

[jaunty sparrow]

Zeus, Ares, Artemis, Athena and Dio

[maiden narwhal]

you just won worse gamer i've ever met award

[jaunty sparrow]

You’ve just won most toxic dude in the server

[maiden narwhal]

coming from someone who models someone after a prepubescent raccoon with adhd..
i'm ok with it

[jaunty sparrow]

What?

[maiden narwhal]

take your time

[jaunty sparrow]

Rigby is an adult

And whats wrong with adhd?

[maiden narwhal]

ok heroes no acorn

take two

[maiden narwhal]

you've been dismissed shoo

[jaunty sparrow]

Stfu

[upper wolf]

bruh