#h1-discussion
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Imagine nyx trying to put his baby diapers on and uh oh burned hand
imagine if zag wasnt stupid and didnt die
Just tell Death no
-hypnos
(Zag rejects Than)
I don't think smarts have anything to do with his deaths :p
Just dodge smarter
I WILL FINALLY GET MY HADES BACK.....
it's on my Dads console (because I had to borrow it) and then i moved... and now it's coming back to me....
i will finally be able to die again with Zagreus over and over again
I was gonna mention the post credits but I think that's more being naive than not smart
Idk I think if he really wanted too that bear would be dust
"hey dude can you jump in this hole for me?" "Sure!"
I love zag
Death by goat too
Although you can’t really defend the chariot death after em3
Bull
And bull ofc
R thwomps an animal
odds are Zag’s died to a voidskate at some point
Or a scyllascion
not the end of the world
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It is the end of the world
لتعاس
ßø þ˳¨´ ˘˳øþˍ´˳
you‘ll be ok
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عسعس
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chaos can't kill you, they will only leave you on 1HP. So you just need to never get hit, ez 
得
🗿 return to ASCII encoding plsthx
I won
66 117 116 32 119 104 121 63
Actually screw that
LOL
1010011 1100011 1110010 1100101 1110111 100000 1111001 1101111 1110101 100000 1000001 1101100 1100101 1111000 1000011 1000001
please refrain from spamming the chat with symbols and different languages
ok
obviously it makes it harder to moderate when i need to translate everything


Asas
Imagine making alma's life harder 
AD as super giant staff
⚕️
Υου κηοω grεεκ rιgπτ
No
this hurts my brain
My sister does (she's greek)
I don’t know half the languages I have keyboards for AD 
If I say something bad it’s an accident
i dont know greek but i know a little bit of cyrillic alphabet
i remember it fairly well
🙏
Good luck
Cheeseburger
Yk what
I don’t even wanna leave the underworld
The gods are a bunch of butt heads
They don’t even like me

lol
Wait is that mobile
Yes
why is everything on the right
Left side is movement
ohh
That’s how 2d mobile games play
I honestly hope they fix the joystick or smth, sometimes i cant even move properly
he doesn't know how to swim
Guys
Why do the gods help Theseus
Or whatever his name is
Like
They’re helping me to get out
But then helping him stop me getting out
Wait is this like real Greek mythology
It’s like
Where gods are just liers
“Real myth”
Where does the call icon go
is a funny phrase
I know they changed things
They changed quite a few things but it’s mostly in line with common variations on myths
they don’t go back on their word by any means
they’re just helping theseus do his job too
Well they say they’ll help you escape
yeah and they are
But by helping Theseus they aren’t helping you escape
They’re actively trying to stop you
And the gods that help him aren't the ones that you currently have
And you can only have gods you don’t have help theseus
Unless you have every god then it’s default set to artemis
You got this
no that’s more of a game design thing
What’s the spelling
Liar
Liar
Tf
Yeah
Pants on fire
Why’s there an A
woah!
You literally used an a yourself
I’m about to pull out the damned gun
anyways English is cool

And shoot the crap outta the dude
No
Yes
it’s not like other languages are that much better about it as someone who learned french in school 
Nein!!
Like
Zeus
Uh
unless it’s hestia
What’s the difference
hestia changes first shot to be big damage
Ah
so you build for big damage
And what about for special
What happens if u beat charon?
Holy poo damn this fishing
You get to go on with your run
Jebus christ
Wait
Yo my fight Charon
Wtf
Why is my autocorrect so stupid
I swear it hates me
Post first win too
This is why I have autocorrect turned off
300 obols + special treat
What
Pretty sweet deal
And how do you fight him
How
ywes
Post first win sometimes there'll be a bag in the shop
Man
Just take it and enjoy the money
Everything as after you win
Hades probably gonna be hella easy
1 on 1 fights are always easy
Only reason I can’t win against the duo is because there’s 2
🙂
And when you get Theseus low he pulls out the bs card and now you can’t attack for a few seconds
:)
You can still attack when he’s doing his thing
But you’ll be attacked
Just dash
This magical thing called stealing
thats the best time to damage him
When massive aoe things are chasing you down
Yeah
You can just dodge and attack the whole time
And one slip up and you’re hit
As someone who does this on the regular
That’s the game fr
yeah, that's why you don't slip up 
Life would be easier if Theseus didn’t have that damn shield
Fr
it's just an habit to make
- getting hit is a bit more devasting where Imm playing with 0 healing outside of reseting SD and enemies are attacking 40% faster so it’s not impossible
em3 be like "no. not at all"
^
Yeah
Em3 is easier until you stack more & more heat on it tbh
EM3 is gamer
what’s really gamer is lernie tax
What’s EM3
I still get lernie taxed
Is a tax for a reason
A heat option (difficulty modifiers I mentioned earlier)
It’s a modifier you unlock later to make Theseus harder
Bro what are the pact of punishment perks? Saw them on my fated list n have no idea how to get em
Have you beaten the game yet
when i die to lernie i rage a lot
you won’t see them till then
I’ve beaten dad tho
By “Beaten the game” I mean escaped a single time
Then they should come up when you start a run
I did
I think its because he lives there
As one born in the underworld it kinda won’t let him leave
At this rate I ain’t getting past the duo
Whatever I can find
But he can’t be gone forever
The stupid duo are unfair
Yikes
Theseus pulls out the stupid AOE
Yeah but like what do you start with
What weapon
Spear
🤔
This is not a “duh” because whether or not a god is good heavily depends on the aspect, and on the other gods you already have
or will get later
Are you building towards anything specific?
WAIT is dusa medua?
No
maid dusa
Ares is really only situationally good
Why would I

I ain’t got the good aspects for the weapons or the final Olympian
Because different boons work better on different aspects
Can’t do things without them
All of the aspects can clear
in different places
disagree. He's always good, but rarely a build around. You can slap a single boon from him and be happy about it, whereas zeus for example can scale much better
Go for minotaur first, use acorn ( the keepsake eurydice gave ) n use calls
A lightning strike is going to be a lot more valuable on rail attack where it’s fast and weak then on bow where it’s slower and heavier
Right
Tf is acorn
Ok, he’s only situationally something you want to build around
Same principle but with every god and every boon/asüect
(ME)
Who tf is eurodyce
the girl in asphodel
Idek if thats the name lmao, but i’m sure it gives u immunity for a certain amount of hits for the final bosses per region
that gives you FOOD
So I’m assuming you have the zagreus aspect of spear?
Oh tree lady?
I don’t waste my nectar on those ones
WHAT
Saving it all for ares
And so you can do the same idea but with specific combos of aspects, boons, and hammers

to get something that really works
💀
Bro really likes ares
If I give ares enough he’ll give me something good
That’s how games work
He’s the god of war
And well
I regret to inform you that’s not how the game works
The god of war solos
You won’t get anything else from him aside from cosmetics for gifting him more fyi
Nope
Ares does not really
artemis solos if you only get all the crits 
Every god solos ( except chaos, i hate that guy )
The lightning does no damage
Nuh uh.
Poseidon is a scam

Maybe this is why you’re stuck at heroes

Why would you wanna push enemies away from you
If they’re away from you you can’t do damage
Maybe go for a bigger % boost on your special
Bro, the lighting dmg is insane, literally jst bonus dmg if u have a fast weapon like spear
And look for exploading launcher
This is why pos strike and special suck but tbh it’s not a huge deal on cast and dash
Push them into walls
Spear ain’t fast
And look for razor shoals
Dash strike prob, n wall slam
spear is fast with flurry jab
spears fast
Doesn’t work on bosses
then the problem solved itself 
Real
What?
It can work on bosses and it’s a little insane when it does
If the issue is you’re pushing enemies away
Bosses just have infinite super armour
Not pushing them away fixes the issue
They don’t
what
All he does is push enemies away
oh
Yo guys, whats the little witch shade’s name? The one that becomes invisible then reappears in tartarus, i keep running into him lmao
Mainly for the big damage from his dash
His dash has the highest dmg
Is he a warden or smtj
Sneak
When you have a good run but then get dogpoo picks 3 times in a row and just feel like dying to restart
bruh tidal dash is the highest damage in the game
New miniboss post final boss
Ohh
I could use Athena’s dash for the deflect
Highest damage dash*

If you’re building ares strike you want athena dash anyways

exactly
since you want merciful end
Poseidon is just a dude who’s got the hots for horses
Pos is strong but not on strike or special
He only works well on dash and situationally on cast
and on chiron special apparently
since the dash is big damage with a good aoe
Pos special being 2nd highest is always funny
i want to play hades
Is razor shoals even good? It doesn’t last long tbh
It’s nice in asphodel
doesn't it last for like 5 seconds or something ?
So you can end up with something like this where your boons all compliment each other for massive dps: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1215384223440048238/IMG_2451.jpg?ex=6605c843&is=65f35343&hm=16e28d4ba120097a68ac9bc8282f3c1b2886b2a5901b01fc9ce6dba96a068cc8&
Unless your knockback is cast you have shoals pretty much 24/7
Also yeah is good dmg, may be a bit hard to notice but it pulls through
But his dash is still the strongest in the game so it’s a good idea to start with it
It’s a little unreadable but red’s the functional stuff and blue is “you need this for other stuff to work/ to get other stuff@
if you arent killing your enemies in 5 seconds you are doing something wrong
And maybe lean into zagreus spear special damage
Do u get certain builds based on luck
Nope
Both aspho enemies/ely blue dudes like to move like they drank 3 coffees
Luck is like 20% of the equation at best
force gods in tartarus and asphodel and use fated persuasionn
I’ve never gotten that good of a build ( since i just pick up random blessings lmao )
and just know what you’re doing tbh
Luck is 100% a factor
Luck is a factor
I have never gotten what I’ve wanted at all
Yeah but it’s not 100% of it
Sure it is
But you can control the majority of it
Hades is super consistent builds wise for a roguelite
What
Only thing you can control is weapon and starting god
OH YH I FORGOT ABT THAT
I mean
You can control your second god too
How
You can also choose the next gods
And you control all the decisions you make
yoo that might actually be op
Joan
Swap to another keepsake in aspho
varatha 😍
REAL
Actually
Do you have the mid biome cabinet
Do you change from ares at all @/rigby
Achilles aspect 😍
If you’re on ares you might as well try for merciful end
Just ping me
You can buy something that lets you swap your keepsake between floors
samesame
Aight
MEGAERA 😍
So you can force gods in
Because I might miss something
You were already in the convo so didn't see the need
I got that
But it still doesn’t help
Whats life without a little pain
You got all the rooms between the very first god of tartar sauce and the first god of afrocell
REAL
Oh no the bane of functionality
Fr
Banana spear is great
nectar
Thanatos >
I’ve given her like 6 alr
real
Throw nectar to her > get dialogue until lock gone > ambrosia
So what cosmetics do I get from ares
Sticker
So i just have to yap yap n romance her?
Yup
U get cosmetics?
It shows next to the keepsake in the cabinet
Apparently
What
It proves you are besties of besties with someone
So what’s the point of giving people more than one
Story for most
Skelly told you about not expecting things from gifting more
tho ironically he is one that does have more
But like
I was about to say
You do not get more functional things from giving more to ares
The big locks?
Why doesn’t zag just romance hades to let him go to the surface
The gold locks
Gift ambrosia to certain people
Never speak again
Borrow money from charon :D,( once u finished the game )
Oh?
||Meg/Than/Dusa/Achilles/Sisyphus/Skelly||
Ok nvm i regret sending that
Daddy than 
I can’t find him
Classic
He showed up once now he’s gone
Whats the easiest req to give ambrosia
Big boy Skelly
Worst would be Than (god pls just show up) or Achilles (need to max a lot of people before him)
So he just refuses to appear?
does the game have an option to show current fps
He can be surprisingly annoying to find yeah
Than is mean
ah
Or he appears but doesn't give the right dialogue
But also cute
Ight
Is worse if you are still going through the main story
Cuz he will talk about that instead of the lock related dialogues
(and even worse for hypnos favor)
I’m annoyed you can’t get more titans blood for the different tartarsauce bosses
There’s 3
Have fun juggling between those dialogues/favor/main story)
I’ve alr maxed ach n patro, do i just needa get certain dialogue of them?
Need to have Nyx at 5 hearts too
There’s a story?
WHAT.
And have done Orpheus or Sysiphus favor too
OMFG
Yeah
I am NOT going to reunite them again, i hope they never see eachother
Which is Sisyphus
Thats such a waste of nectar fr
Dude next to 
Sisyphus is the boulder, bouldy is the man
Ohh
! Room in tart
Using keepsakes to force in your first and second ideal gods in tartarus and asphodel goes along way, using fated persuasion to get the boons you want from hermes, chaos, purging pools, wells and olympians is a huge level of control. Good utilisation of purging pools lets you put poms on the boons you want, and have extra money for shops to get more stuff. Making sure to make wise decisions at every fork (ie. I’d rather not have demeter for a Merciful End build because she’ll open stubborn roots and get in the way of finding Merciful End) or “I’m going to take chaos since he’s rather inconsistent compared to obols and hearts” is also important. Planning what you take from each god is also really important, you might end up taking x from artemis just so you won’t open splitting headache by accident on a dio build. Overall you have pretty great control.
P.S. you can only have 4 olympians (sans Hermes) in yohr god pool at a time bar forcing more in (or other situational cases) so you stay careful to which ones you let in for more control.
Ok i was not expecting a whole paragraph but lemme read
Can’t you force the 3rd god
And then you keep in mind that the game will always prioritise giving your core boons (attack/special/cast/dash) if they’re open so you want to fill those to have more options for your secondary boons
You can but itms not worth it
You'd often have a full pool by then
By elysium you should have a full god pool and shouldn’t need to force anyone in
Alr👍
and you’ll get more value from taking a defensive keepsake (acorn or spearpoint) or utility (hourglass or purse) or Dad keepsake for damage
By that point
Since when you like spear point
Y
Spearpoint is valid for elysium
Doesn’t let me
lots more fast firing enemies
and with both asteriud and theseus you can also get value during their boss fight
Compared to Hades fight where his attacks are spaced out too far for real spearpoint value
If u fight astreus as a miniboss, does he get weaker at the final fight?
Yeah
20% hp less
Ohh nice
So I do think spearpoint is a valid pick defensively for elysium, especially for newer players
What if you kill Theseus first
My 405 hours are from almost 0 afk 
left on the bed also
He just dies
i wish i knew what my actual count was
Can't find him before the actual boss fight
Instead of the monitor
928.9 hours
i thought i was smart taking yarn and plume into asphodel at 50 heat
👽
first door is demeter
owned
That's certainly cooking at least
Real big brains just play modded and take plume start to finish
Now out of the kitchen
🧠
what's a decent heat to run shackle on?
He thinks he can live
Joke
Any heat
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329403875117236225/1218616900443967609/IMG_3862.png?ex=6608506d&is=65f5db6d&hm=64f9178e643ff6e194c9e96c15154868f14b61e1bbbd447c5f8e2d4840fddd6d& 35h in a week and i’m still suffering against hades 😭
Not on my watch
you can no boons 50?
What Keepsake should I take
damn
well nobody doin it with eris
ever
no i want to tho
see if i can clear without a single core boon
Ares keepsake if your loyal to ares
Why
What heat are you planning
I’ve doen it up to 32
i wasn't, i was asking
hm
ok i can try 32 and see what happens
it'll have to be shield tho
Which keepsake is good for the gun
i'm v used to eris now
but obviously no boons means no zeus
What’s that
Theres no specific keepsake good for weapons
Zeus -> aphrodite -> util -> acorn
in general
Those arrows are f
i ws talking to avalanche mb
by biome
Whats util
Tbh for rail itms pretty universally zeus strike aside from hestia
Imma take the cosmic egg
utility
Egg is a meme
Util is purse from hypnos or hourglass from charon
Options?
Rail hammer start 
the worst
Delta chamber, cluster bomb or seeking fire
except that time i got zeus second door and jolted fourth and all was well
Cluster
Chaos boon time
I haven’t played in like a month Imll crack out my switch and give it a shot too
Btw @jaunty sparrow you know dash iframes work
sounds good i'ma try boonless 32 with.... zeus i guess
or force pulv on zag
whackwhackwhack
omg no ap
And attacking cancels the iframes
Idk what boon to pick
I’ven’t boonless I’ve just attack/special/cast lessed
If you’re doing shackle boonless hestia, you prob want ricochet
boonless is a different story entirely
so dash and call?
Guys what boon
by boonless i mean no core
Tidal dash
Yeah since they work just fine
Pick zeus trust
Options/curses?
I got one that gives me more money one that makes my cast do more damage or one that makes me do 69% more damage from behind
I’ve got lie 26 victory screens give me a second
It’s a chaos boon
What are the curses
Doesn’t matter
Behind
What
Cool
blood and darkness
What
3 turns I don’t get cash
What’s your build
Rail bullets do 10 dmg
A % buff doesn't help
(special can't backstab)
Oh I c
Ohh mb i thought he was using spear or smth
I'd taken the money buff assuming the curse wasn't terrible
Idk what it was
Oh wait
Can’t pickup the cast gems for 10 seconds
Oh that was free then lol
tdash and seastorm?
Sea storm not on my mind
But yeah % attack buffs not good on rail unless hestia/spread fire
So is the back shot dmg
lmao i just saw your screenname
They were all free
shackle is your thing
What r u playing on
“Back shot”
That gave a 300% dmg buff to traps against me
@rustic vale so what pure coreless heat have you managed?
or have you not tried much
32
Just don’t step on traps
-hypnos
Em4 jumpscare
Yea I know
So basically all feee
Free
Just gave Artemis nectar
That’s another keepsake
Right
Does zag ever sit
Deadly flourish
With cluster bomb
What we saying?
The cluster bomb took 30% dmg off the special
Anyways imma go sleep gn
But this’ll give 40% dmg plus chance for crit
The strongest hammer combo in the game is cluster bomb, rocket bomb, and Artemis
5 bombs at 70% base damage is still 350% compared to your starting 100%
Shop
Nvm I got 22 coins
Where is my spreadfire
Lmao
what hammer with zeus shield boonless?
Explosive return
Mini boss
charged shot
Urge to kill?
Nah
thought so ok
Ares has like 2 useful boons
I can choose blade dash, ares aid or urge to kill
Dash
Bro
UTK isn’t that much
shop chaos and story all at the same time why does thishappen to meeee
Real
Erebus
Hi chaos
I love the weapon choices
You got a powerful sword
An awesome Speer
Spear
A shield that’s cool
A bow
and then 4 other great options
gun
Because why not
every option in Hades is a blassssssttt
With the gun it quite literally is
Remember when the Greeks invented guns
i immediately took the first boon i saw 🤦
the hardest part to be will remember i'm doing a boonless run
i think
Maybe you could purge it ASAP
How are you doing a boonless run
they say "here is a boon" and i say "no thank you"
no core boons
so no attack, special, cast, dash, or call
For boonless you bring fated authority to just
pass on boons
I mean sometimes you have to take a boon anyway. My boonless runs usually mean if I boost special, I stop using it until I can purge it.
You start wirh a hammer
And roll away boons
and whenever you have theboption you avoid it
Bank on purging pools
Worst one was when I was forced to take a boon in Styx on the 5th tunnel.
oof
Oooo
Chaos boons and unpurgable boons will still allow you to get boonless hades dialogue
Wine dude or a boon upgrade
there's dialogue??
Only for actually boonless
what is actual boonless
Not the discount only avoid shackle triggers
Yeah getting the dialogue doesn't mean "no boons", just no purgable ones I think.
Only boons uou can have by Hades are unpurgable and chaos
You can’t have any others
that’s to get dialogue
Afaik community boonless is no boons used over the entire run
Because I can pick it rn
the meta
So should I?
Or drunken strike
spam em
What weapon is this
i went from dislike dio call -> love dio call -> hate dio call
look for zeus strike on it
Even if I lose I just wanna shoot him
Rather than dio
Like dio is flat damage and fast things always love flat damage but zeus works stellarly on rail
Artemis and ares or centaur heart
What do you have from ares
I’m sure I can find Zeus
K cuz if you picked up curse of vengeance you would be able to get curse of nausea
Could I still get it?
Like it’s both ares and Artemis
Well
So if I pick that room
It’s more of
You need curse of vengeance (or another curse boon) to even see the duo
but do you already have a curse boon? Cuz if not
Because it’s gotta be better than a centaur heart
You cannot get the duo
No
exactly
Right
Hide breaker
Combined with Artemis special cluster bombs
That’s gotta obliterate armour
Or hunters mark or deadly strike
If ssg would just give my first hammer
Holy how am I at meg with no hammer I just want to get spreadfire or rocket bomb or smthing to work with here
Right
Urge of kill or battle rage
The other is curse of pain but it’ll replace my current setup
UtK is consistent where Battle rage will easily het used by accident
Especially since this is rail
why do you hate it?
makes me blind
With 240 gold a shop is better than a boon upgrade right
playing em4 made me realize how many things in this game blind me
Tbh even with 150
YOOO
poms are only really impactful on dio and pos
might get colorblind mod
He’s selling a bag and a boon upgrade
And I can afford both
Curse of agony, slicing shot or blood frenzy
Thinking blood frenzy just because I need it for the list
so called free thinkers when scroll icon
just took an erebus gate at c32
Hey
(i do that too)
instant regret
It’s fated to be picked
2nd room of asphodel and still sitting eith my no hammers and common 0 pom tdash

I jusr wanted spreadfire or rocket bomb
Inspirational Hades (2018) quotes
-“The barge of death will always be here for me”
Haha
Get Americaed
That’s what imma call beating bosses with the gun from now on
Right I’m at the keepsake area
Should I swap to a god keepsake
Where are you
I got ares, Artemis, Dionysus, and Athena
Outside asph
Hmm
Honestly that’s pretty sad strike wise so as annoying as a 5 god pool is
You may want to just force in zeus
Can’t
Yikes
You’ll have to settle with ares strike ig
I’ll grab their boon
or athena
Forgetting to give em nectar
athena would be
but also like
Orrrr
deadly reversal
You cannot get zeus
you can only have 4 olympian gods (sans Hermes) without extraordinary circumstances
So no?
That’s what I wastalkimg about earlier
You’ll projably settle for either ares or athena strike, ares would work better but athena would allow deadly reversal for your bombs
Yeah
You can only have a max of 4 in your “god pool” at a given time aside from circumstances where they’re forced to have more
- aside from hermes
He’s differrnt
Why won’t Zeus appear then
Dionysus, ares and Artemis
This si 4
I said athena mentioning the items to force them in