Finally beat the hydra 😎
#h1-discussion
tepid light
ancient greek heaven will indeed give you a spanking
west relic
I’m assuming 7 hours played means I have a while of experience before I actually beat the campaign? 😂
Also, is the blood to upgrade my weapons a rng drop?
stone rune
no
mint coral
Also, is the blood to upgrade my weapons a rng drop?
How do I get more blood
-beating the first boss for the
first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
-final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
other sources:
trading for it at lounge -15 keys for 1 blood which is super good is sometimes there)
list of minor prophecies
west relic
**How do I get more blood**
-beating the first boss for the
first time with a w...
Oh okay, thanks
mint coral
Removed a few things as you haven't reached them yet
west relic
Oh thanks! Haha
I finally beat the hydra skull then get merked in the 5th level of elysium
brisk trail
...........
rugged pivot
Yoo I can't believe this
I guess I'll spoiler tag this
When I reached max relationship with Dusa ||she gave back all the ambrosia I gave her!||
||that's so freaking handy man, I love that, I always fear I run out of ambrosia and I can't do anything to get it again because|| I don't always play at the required heat level because they're all pretty high now and I just want to chill sometimes, level up keepsakes and other relationships
raw thunder
**How do I get more blood**
-beating the first boss for the
first time with a w...
Best way to farm blood being?
||FISHING?||
maiden narwhal
elysium erebus be like o hay
here is a core boon!
and a heroic butterfly
stiff obsidian
elysium erebus be like o hay
here is a core boon!
and a heroic butterfly
Don't take
maiden narwhal
Don't take
onion is actually decent hp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
maiden narwhal
why do troves sometimes give me nectar?
sour fog
there is small chance for it
maiden narwhal
there is small chance for it
does it depend on speed of clear or anything like that?
sour fog
pretty sure it's just random
torn phoenix
Are bounties different per aspect or just per weapon?
latent moon
per weapon
maiden narwhal
do you play high confidence or thick skin?
stiff obsidian
Thick skin
echo minnow
fishing is the only joy in life
echo minnow
THANATOS DIDNT RANDOMLY DISAPPEAR ON ME
HES JUST CHILLING IN THE CORRIDOR
WE ARE SO BACK
rose roost
@maiden narwhal explosive return's dmg can be boosted I just misremembered that it can't crit
sorry for the misinfo lol
maiden narwhal
got it, thanks for the follow up!
do you guys path key over nectar because extra roll > random pom level?
rose roost
def keys for the extra rereoll unless you only have like 1/2 boons that would need poms
maiden narwhal
max hl is wow
but this is what will learn me how to play
or i'll just get sick of not even reaching elysium, and turn it down 🤷
stiff obsidian
dont play max hl with death defiance
echo minnow
whats hl ?
stiff obsidian
hard labor
maiden narwhal
dont play max hl with death defiance
ooh
but then you have to be like... really pro at boss fights
so.. don't play hl until you're really good at boss fights?
em hl furies more difficult than normal dad
gray apex
so.. don't play hl until you're really good at boss fights?
You just have to be better in general, not just boss fights. A few hits and you lose a permanent DD which you have to buy again or pray for patty to get back.
And there's just better options in terms of heat
maiden narwhal
yeah i'm wiping way too early
void vigil
the acronyms for heat are listed in #h1-high-heat-strategies pins but i wonder if it should have their effect next to each one too
tepid light
dont play max hl with death defiance
laughs
gray apex
There's also a progression guide pinned there
stiff obsidian
so.. don't play hl until you're really good at boss fights?
yea basically
tepid light
you could not pay me enough to use stubborn defiance
maiden narwhal
you could not pay me enough to use stubborn defiance
playing stubborn defiance with high security would be the funniest thing in the world
stiff obsidian
heros are just a dps check
tepid light
tisiphone and megaera are fine
but alecto
is something else
those godforsaken sawblades
maiden narwhal
worst boss
oh thank god it's not just me i feel like such a scrub struggling with t1 boss
maiden narwhal
tis is probably easiest which is funny because without heat it's the reverse
alecto is ridiculous
and i get that she's angry
but why she gotta be so mean?
she calls me trash god 🤌🤌🤌
tepid light
she calls me trash god 🤌🤌🤌
to be fair she's hardly the only person who looks down on zagreus
cough cough theseus
void vigil
you could not pay me enough to use stubborn defiance
i found it really fun when i did 20h, also easy to get used to
maiden narwhal
cough cough theseus
he's such a clown tho noone takes him seriously
tepid light
i found it really fun when i did 20h, also easy to get used to
oh i'm sure i'd be fine with it at lower/no heat
but i'm not going into em4 dad with heightened security, hard labor, calisthenics program, and the like with only a single death defiance
nocturne kelp
cough cough theseus
I'm gonna kiss you
void vigil
arent these like the worst pacts to take with em4 or in general
maiden narwhal
I'm gonna kiss you
he'll give you cough cough covid
void vigil
this is a bit of a weird thing to say to strangers in the server, please refrain. it seems like the kind of joke to make with friends
tepid light
arent these like the worst pacts to take with em4 or in general
i suppose i'll have to explain my heat preferences again
i don't like modifiers that make zag weaker/limit your options
i'd prefer tougher enemies rather than a weaker character
hence why i've got things like calisthenics program and jury summons maxed while having still not touched approval process or underworld customs or the like
void vigil
i see
maiden narwhal
i suppose i'll have to explain my heat preferences again
i don't like modifiers...
but that's not special that's just.. intuitive?
void vigil
i had kind of a weird pact (at least for just 20 heat) and also as always i say, play the game your way
i got possessed by the meta spirit my bad
tepid light
but that's not special that's just.. intuitive?
not as far as this server goes, i've met like one other person who approaches heat the way i do
maiden narwhal
but that's not special that's just.. intuitive?
all except hs
that's just the masochist in you
tepid light
everyone else acts like my pact is the most horrifying thing they've ever seen
maiden narwhal
not as far as this server goes, i've met like one other person who approaches he...
doesn't say much for this server then
tepid light
(which as i've mentioned i find hilarious)
void vigil
i mean i got the same thing but ive seen streamers, etc etc just take whatever they feel is the least painful and for everyone its different
maiden narwhal
everyone else acts like my pact is the most horrifying thing they've ever seen
idk why
it's common sense
except hs
you can't justify hs
stiff obsidian
not as far as this server goes, i've met like one other person who approaches he...
you will find many on reddit 😃 👍
void vigil
its pretty justifiable until em4
tepid light
i mean i got the same thing but ive seen streamers, etc etc just take whatever t...
i agree with that ofc, i'm just surprised how polarized this server is with what constitutes "less painful"
void vigil
that sounds mean considering the approach this server has to the hades reddit
maiden narwhal
i mean i got the same thing but ive seen streamers, etc etc just take whatever t...
right, like i max js because i dont care about speed runs and i enjoy hitting things (and i used to think it gave extra gold)
void vigil
i think its about the combinations
tepid light
that sounds mean considering the approach this server has to the hades reddit
i'm not trying to be mean or dismissive ofc, i'm just observing
void vigil
more hp+less time wont work
stiff obsidian
me neither assuming that was to me
void vigil
i'm not trying to be mean or dismissive ofc, i'm just observing
i was talking to false side, no worries
tepid light
ah whoops mb then
void vigil
but if theres no mean intent in it its ok 👍
stiff obsidian
there never is
void vigil
its hard to read the tone sometimes
tepid light
more hp+less time wont work
this is a big reason why i haven't gone beyond tight deadline 1
but yeah the reason i first started doing em4 was because i was just bored with regular dad and was beating him too easily
not always winning against em4 dad makes the victories sweeter imo
void vigil
i love steamrolling everything which is why i did crush shot hera bow for 100 runs, i found it absurdly easy
well idk if it was 100 runs but it was a whole lot of my victory streak of 145
stiff obsidian
do you play on fo2? @tepid light
tepid light
do you play on fo2? <@155886803642089472>
nope, still forced overtime 1
stiff obsidian
ah
tepid light
i'll probably try 2 soon though
maiden narwhal
but yeah the reason i first started doing em4 was because i was just bored with ...
you beat normal dad easily because you learn his telegraphs and routine and have the patience to just keep dodging and doing chip damage until he's dead?
or because your build overpowers him?
raw thunder
you beat normal dad easily because you learn his telegraphs and routine and have...
Isn’t it usually a combination of both
dodge and weave
Greater call
tepid light
you beat normal dad easily because you learn his telegraphs and routine and have...
both, more or less
he was just generally too easy
i knew his patterns, he wasn't posing enough of a threat, i was consistently winning without a single dd lost
maiden narwhal
Isn’t it usually a combination of both
i mean.. i can keep bull rushing and barely ever take damage, or i can go leeroy on his ass, maybe lose a defiance but probably not and who cares because i have two
raw thunder
I like being able to get op builds by accident just by playing
raw thunder
i mean.. i can keep bull rushing and barely ever take damage, or i can go leeroy...
wtf
that shouldn’t work
tepid light
tbf, hiding behind shield and chipping away at dad for like 5 hours straight was how i got my first ever clear
maiden narwhal
it works evry tim
tepid light
i like to think i've gotten better since then
maiden narwhal
or has up to heat 20, anyway
raw thunder
My first clear was on the third attempt
I beat him fairly comfortably with bow
Just by dodging his attacks
maiden narwhal
it's the same with god of war and hollow knight and all the other games where bosses have patterns
even if they're obvious, i just do. not. have. the. patience
raw thunder
Btw does the jolted effect from zeus apply to theseus’ call
bc I swear his hp melted when I used Zeus for his second phase
tepid light
Btw does the jolted effect from zeus apply to theseus’ call
how do you mean
maiden narwhal
yes i don't understand the question
raw thunder
how do you mean
jolted deals dmg when the enemy attacks
When Theseus uses call you’re spammed with attacks
do the attacks count as his attacks
stiff obsidian
yes
raw thunder
My second win was so fun
raw thunder
I got a boon for shield special that applies doom
And a boon where my main attack triggered doom instantly
so spamming special attack eradicated anything close
maiden narwhal
zeus shield?
maiden narwhal
aah
raw thunder
I’m not lucky enough to get any other hidden aspects
void vigil
And a boon where my main attack triggered doom instantly
Merciful end my beloved
maiden narwhal
chaos shield
put doom on attack and athena on special and dash
then when you find the merciful ending boon (that triggers doom instantly), you apply it with attack and keep dashing through them to trigger it
everyone melt
it's ❤️
raw thunder
What does Zeus shield do btw
Rn I’ve been resetting to get Arthur
I think it’s been 40 resets
one must imagine me getting Arthur
maiden narwhal
big shield that spins around on its own, allowing you to still attack
you can recall it by pressing special again
raw thunder
sounds nice
void vigil
Resetting like giving up or like dying in the first room?
maiden narwhal
sounds nice
here's a video of me clearing with the merciful ending zeus shield
maiden narwhal
both, more or less
he was just generally too easy
i knew his patterns, he wasn...
can i see video of your normal dad clears?
tepid light
can i see video of your normal dad clears?
unfortunately i don't have any videos from back then
if you're looking for tips on how to beat dad
it's really just practice, practice, practice
rugged pivot
For merciful end on sword which is better?
- Doom attack, deflect special
- deflect attack, doom special
stiff obsidian
Attack always
rugged pivot
My intuition would say 2, but idk
rugged pivot
Attack always
Attack what?
stiff obsidian
Doom
rugged pivot
Alr
stiff obsidian
If doom is on your special then you only get doom when you special
rugged pivot
Yeah I was thinking maybe you get doom on a lot of enemies and then you activate it slowly with attacks
But ig it's better to slowly put doom and then activate it all at once
maiden narwhal
Yeah I was thinking maybe you get doom on a lot of enemies and then you activate...
doom can stack and delay
maiden narwhal
apply doom fast with your sword, and dash through them to activate it
rugged pivot
Ohh right
maiden narwhal
so get athena on dash
rugged pivot
Divine dash and both special and attack doom?
maiden narwhal
yes
maiden narwhal
oh i read it wrong
rugged pivot
I don't remember the boon names
rugged pivot
Alr thanks
maiden narwhal
then get merciful ending, apply doom with sword, and dash through them to activate
rugged pivot
I will 100% force that combination to complete higher heat because I suck
maiden narwhal
also get the booms that apply doom multiple times, and delay doom
rugged pivot
Yeah delay doom seems important
maiden narwhal
I will 100% force that combination to complete higher heat because I suck
it's an autopilot combination. merciful ending is 🤌🤌🤌
hard to lose once you get the hang of it
rugged pivot
Yeah delay doom seems important
So it's just straight up do more damage
maiden narwhal
i stopped playing it because it got boring hah
maiden narwhal
So it's just straight up do more damage
yep
rugged pivot
Yeah makes sense, I'm struggling at heat 10 with sword though
maiden narwhal
sword is not the best weapon
have you tried shield?
it's very beginner friendly
and pro friendly
rugged pivot
I struggle with everything basically, at heat 10
maiden narwhal
just an all around op weapon
rugged pivot
The only ones that are free even at heat 20 is aspect of Hestia of the gun and bow in general
Those are just very easy, I have maxed bounties with aspect of hestia
The problem with shield is that I don't do much damage
Unless I get that hammer that gives a power shot to the shield, similar to the bow's power shot
I'm aware aspect of hestia is busted though, I'm mostly just carried by not having to deal as much with enemies because I melt them lol
Oh wow I'm only at heat 3 with shield
I guess I can grind some bounties with it
rugged pivot
It's basically the one that reduces your mag size but the first shot after a reload deals insane damage
maiden narwhal
i'm sure i've seen it mentioned, but i forgot
rugged pivot
Basically all I do is reload > shoot > reload > cancel reload with either dash, special or cast, repeat
maiden narwhal
It's basically the one that reduces your mag size but the first shot after a rel...
ah the manual reload one
rugged pivot
The single shot does so much damage
maiden narwhal
so it's not bugged just op?
rugged pivot
I guess so, idk I just finish runs so quickly with it
Dad dies like thrice as fast when I get to him with it
maiden narwhal
what character do you play in diablo
rugged pivot
I don't play diablo
rugged pivot
Idk what counts, I guess Nier automata
I mostly play action games with no RPG stuff
maiden narwhal
ok that's cool
rugged pivot
Oh Nioh, I did play that, nioh, nioh 2 and wo long
maiden narwhal
so like hack and slash and side scrollers and platformers and roguelikes and metrovanias?
i never played nier or nioh i should check it they're on steam
are they indie titles?
rugged pivot
Basically dmc games, bayonetta, sekiro, some soulslikes or more niche hack n slashes
maiden narwhal
bayonetta
[triggered]
rugged pivot
are they indie titles?
Not really, nioh is published by koei tecmo and the developer is team ninja
rugged pivot
They're making a new AAA game called rise of the ronin
maiden narwhal
Not really, nioh is published by koei tecmo and the developer is team ninja
ah so they'll be expensive
rugged pivot
Yeah I also didn't like bayonetta much, basically anything BUT the gameplay of bayonetta is annoying
maiden narwhal
if you played soullikes hades should be cake for you yeah?
rugged pivot
ah so they'll be expensive
Wo long is fairly recent, but there's a bundle with nioh and nioh 2 that usually goes on sale
rugged pivot
if you played soullikes hades should be cake for you yeah?
Nah not really, souls games difficulty is a myth for me
Like I legit struggled more completing spider man 2 on hard than sekiro
maiden narwhal
i'm used to paying 5-10 dollars a game
i will check out nioh tho it looks amazing
rugged pivot
Yeah nioh 2 is amazing, if you can only get one I highly suggest 2
It's basically nioh 1 but better in every way
maiden narwhal
hang on in i'll check real quick
rugged pivot
And you don't need to know anything about the previous one
rugged pivot
How much is it at full price?
maiden narwhal
wew
maiden narwhal
43 at full
so either 40 or 45
dunno which way the conversion will go
although usd much stronger than inr
that's maybe too much for a videogame unless you're a kid or a dink
or you make teh $$
rugged pivot
Yeah makes sense, roguelikes are perfect because they don't cost much
But sadly all the roguelikes I've played bored me very quickly
Hades is the only one I like
maiden narwhal
yes same here!
bored me because of skill cap hah
ie i suck
i think i need a roguelite
rugged pivot
I don't know the difference lol, I did play Isaac, Enter The Gungeon and Returnal
The first two I didn't like the gameplay, Returnal was really fun, basically a light version of doom which I love, but the roguelike stuff seemed like a hindrance to me
maiden narwhal
roguelite = easier roguelike. made more for casual gamers
but with elements for hardcore gamers too
like the pact of punishment handles that perfectly
play deadcells
rugged pivot
Well I guess I am a casual gamer with roguelikes lol
maiden narwhal
that's fkn hardcore
rugged pivot
Because I find it frustrating to start over
rugged pivot
I've seen a game at a state of play some months ago, I legit forgot everything about it but it seems like it's made by the Devs that made dead cells
And there were three players so maybe it's coop, I'm interested in that
rugged pivot
Idk lemme check
Windblown apparently is called
It's not isometric but it has a top down view, and I like shooters that are like that
maiden narwhal
look it has a little fan club
apparently I can buy turbo ultrakill bundle and get turbo overkill at 30% off
is turbo overkill any good?
rugged pivot
Ultrakill doesn't have a top down view though
I've mostly seen it compared to doom, since it's an arena shooter
mint coral
Best way to farm blood being?
Using the pact, but also thanks for reminding that fishing is a thing for that
maiden narwhal
Using the pact, but also thanks for reminding that fishing is a thing for that
only for perfect sturgeon
even assuming 100% perfect rate, what are the odds of fish in greece , and that it's sturgeon?
mint coral
only for perfect sturgeon
even assuming 100% perfect rate, what are the odds of...
50/50 if it's a perfect catch
Odds are like 20%?
maiden narwhal
oh, even then it could not be blood?
mint coral
Is in the wiki at least
mint coral
oh, even then it could not be blood?
Normal catches are a 50/50 between the normal and rare fish
Perfect catch is 50/50 between the rare and legendary fish
Sturgeon is the legendary fish
maiden narwhal
oh drop is on rarity not fish type
oh it's both
you can't have a non legend sturgeon?
mint coral
Nope
maiden narwhal
ok
mint coral
Also fwiw a perfect catch would give you blood no matter what
Cuz the other fish gives ambrosia iirc
So just trade it
maiden narwhal
and you can exchange yeah
idk i wouldn't count on fish for blood
do people do blood runs to styx?
i think prophecies give you enough, yeah?
mint coral
Like buying at charon's?
maiden narwhal
Like buying at charon's?
yes
mint coral
Yeah a lot of people do
upper wolf
I did some for sure
mint coral
Players really don't like touching the pact
maiden narwhal
because buying at charons usually means failing dad, yeah?
upper wolf
Not necessarily
maiden narwhal
you've sacrificed quite a few powerups for that blood
it could be make or break?
idk
mint coral
Spending gold def helps but those runs would basically luck out with their builds
upper wolf
Once you have the game knowledge and meta progression, beating a run at somewhat low heat is not a challenge
maiden narwhal
yeah i was going to say, if build is op then you just steamroll him
mint coral
But there's also the mentality of "I'm gonna die anyways so might as well buy the blood"
mint coral
i think prophecies give you enough, yeah?
Also iirc, nah
upper wolf
Thing is, it's not hard to guarantee an OP build
mint coral
Even with all bounties + prophecies you need to trade/fish for some
If you wanna max all aspects
maiden narwhal
Also iirc, nah
enough to roll and gain momentum
then heats keep you going
upper wolf
I think at least one aspect of each weapon has a build that is easy to achieve and easy to win with
maiden narwhal
i didn't find myself missing blood once this file
upper wolf
Master fisher
maiden narwhal
I think at least one aspect of each weapon has a build that is easy to achieve a...
the guide says fourth aspect is usually strong enough at base
mint coral
I think at least one aspect of each weapon has a build that is easy to achieve a...
Tbh most people that aim for Charon's blood each time don't really know these builds
upper wolf
the guide says fourth aspect is usually strong enough at base
Meh, kinda true I guess
mint coral
And if you do know them you are already better off just running through the pact
mint coral
Cuz I fall back into spending for my build instead
upper wolf
Valid
But there were a fair few heats where I could clear the run and buy at Styx
At some point I couldn't anymore, but hey. That's how it goes sometimes
maiden narwhal
At some point I couldn't anymore, but hey. That's how it goes sometimes
which point?
above 25?
mint coral
Bounties would've already capped at that point
upper wolf
which point?
above 25?
Absolutely not the slightest idea lol
You're asking me about runs I did like 4 years ago
maiden narwhal
haha fair
upper wolf
I'm already struggling to remember what my last runs were, no chance in Tartarus I remember those
maiden narwhal
Bounties would've already capped at that point
he's talking about buying at styx shop, not bounties
my fresh fresh file, i had to do blood runs because i sucked donkey dong and could not kill dad
stiff obsidian
he's talking about buying at styx shop, not bounties
when u maxed bounties theres no reason to buy styx item
maiden narwhal
when u maxed bounties theres no reason to buy styx item
yeah i guess
also you have like 5 weapons to get 21 heat worth of bounties out of
so you should never actually have to do a blood run
upper wolf
One titan blood in the hand is better than two in the bounties
Might as well get your bloods faster
maiden narwhal
[on zeus shield] can ares attack zeus special scale stronger than merciful ending?
upper wolf
I think Zeus shield ME goes for doom on special
upper wolf
More damage and still kinda constant application
mint coral
Zeus ME gets that benefit of using either
upper wolf
Is gonna work out anyways
Fair enough 
mint coral
unless i sell zeus force athena for asphodel
Oh wait I didn't read the zeus special part
maiden narwhal
em4 slaughtered me with full me setup
maiden narwhal
Oh wait I didn't read the zeus special part
yeah /:
mint coral
Hmmm ME def can escale more but zeus^2 is comfy
upper wolf
em4 slaughtered me with full me setup
It do be like that sometimes. Superdad doesn't joke around
mint coral
Still leaves you some range/dash free to use for dodge
Only niche problem that it has is if you have splitting bolt
mint coral
It do be like that sometimes. Superdad doesn't joke around
Me losing back to back shield runs to super dad
(pulv blow and cshot runs respectively)
Fo2 super dad moment
mint coral
Only niche problem that it has is if you have splitting bolt
Oh and blocking point blank spear throws
torn phoenix
Fo2 is just insane
maiden narwhal
took three skulls to give me flurry cast
die in asphodel
three times in a row
this game can go fertilise itself
perhaps jumping from 20 to 25 was a bad idea
stiff obsidian
?skulls
mint coral
Persuasion
stiff obsidian
oh
maiden narwhal
rolls sry
mystic lark
perhaps jumping from 20 to 25 was a bad idea
Yeah, you should just jump to 32. Pain and suffering, but now in style
upper wolf
jump to 64 at that point
maiden narwhal
Yeah, you should just jump to 32. Pain and suffering, but now in style
i was gonna do 25, then 30, then 32 guess not 😔
mystic lark
i was gonna do 25, then 30, then 32 guess not 😔
Well, 30 and 32 are not much different, so you might as well go 32 from 25. As for 25... Have you read any 32 heat guides? Especially on pact setup. Most of that is applicable to lower heat too
maiden narwhal
Well, 30 and 32 are not much different, so you might as well go 32 from 25. As f...
i haven't, no, i was waiting to hit a ceiling
if i struggle with 21 and 2 then i will yeah
tepid light
jump to 64 at that point
you first
stone rune
i think its reasonable to go from 20 to 32
so long as your pact and build are good it will be free
upper wolf
I wouldn't quite say "free" tbh
mystic lark
Well, not free...
upper wolf
but it's nothing undoable
I would consider myself a good player (and I would consider jazz a great player) and I still needed 2-3 tries on a lot of aspects for 32 heat
stone rune
i strongly believe that if any player who has previously cleared 20 heat uses a good pact with hestia and a decent build they will clear within at most like 5 tries
stone rune
for me, i used a kinda cursed but mostly normal pact with a standard build and got it first try
altho the particular strat i used was very cursed
i did lc2 dds with collar for some reason
i loved collar so much
mint coral
Iirc I did lc3 for whatever reason
stone rune
i also did td2 and got a td3 time
upper wolf
classic
mystic lark
Eh, I struggled with 32 quite a bit
upper wolf
did you have a good pact and build ? Also what do you mean by "struggled" ?
maiden narwhal
if i said struggled i'd mean failed to clear
maiden narwhal
not for long though
i put 63 after 20
died to the very first trap i found
mystic lark
Yeah, I had a good pact from a guide, and a more or less good build. I tried different builds. Most of my attempts ended early, in tartarus or asphodel, but I got progressively better, until I managed to beat it. But it was not 5 attempts, closer to 50
upper wolf
oh
well, I guess you prove us wrong then x)
I'd like to believe that's among the most tries for 32, but I don't exactly have the data
brisk trail
..........
stiff obsidian
spam
stone rune
i think the number of average attempts skyrockets if u have no advice or bad advice
upper wolf
oh yeah, definitely
stone rune
like on reddit there was a guy who after 500 hours was just getting first 32
mystic lark
like on reddit there was a guy who after 500 hours was just getting first 32
That may be me
stone rune
and also the environment
if everyone treats 32 as something really difficult and unobtainable
like on reddit
upper wolf
speaking of, I find it funny when people will say "damn I suck, I took so long to get 32" then post a win screen with the most horrib build and pact
stone rune
where even haelian can get downvoted for saying that anyone can beat 32
upper wolf
And in my head I can only think "mate if you managed to clear that run you could clear 50 heat easily with optimization"
stone rune
its probably some kind of psychological thing idk
upper wolf
r/hades is so weird
stiff obsidian
its probably some kind of psychological thing idk
yea exactly
and people develop this mental block that they cant beat 32
upper wolf
I feel like they mix up "it's ok to play how you want, even if it's incredibly casually" and "trying to play well is the most elitist possible mindset ever made"
maiden narwhal
r/hades is so weird
ikr why would there even be an r/hades
mystic lark
like on reddit there was a guy who after 500 hours was just getting first 32
If that was in may 2023, that was me :D
mystic lark
Then I am not alone lol
stone rune
they also didnt attach an image or anything it was just text
stiff obsidian
gg
mystic lark
I played hades for 500-ish hours casually before I finally decided to get all the achievements and get that last skelly statue
fervent radish
Maybe just a diff attitude towards playing games
Like if hades recognizes 32 as an attainable rewardable goal, that’s what I’m going to do
As soon as I can
mystic lark
Yeah, I played just for fun. Without any specific builds, I almost never used gods keepsakes.
upper wolf
Like if hades recognizes 32 as an attainable rewardable goal, that’s what I’m go...
Tbh I'm not sure the game does. Yeah there's the Skelly statue, but on the other hand SGG found it too difficult to make an achievement out of it
fervent radish
I think that’s a weird disconnect tbh
maiden narwhal
anyone else play v cavalier and sloppy for the first 2.9 lives and then with great focus for the .1 life you have left
stone rune
yea
im chilling till im out of dds
sometimes u just drop all 3 because u took maimed into lernie
maiden narwhal
sometimes u just drop all 3 because u took maimed into lernie
it me
but if it pays off
goddamn
beastmode
fervent radish
“Oh we want 100% to be accessible to players of all skill levels”
maiden narwhal
if i'm playing firey presence isn't my dash strike very important and don't i want to buff it?
fervent radish
But then why is there a literal reward in the game for beating 32 heat
It doesn’t make sense to me
stone rune
if i'm playing firey presence isn't my dash strike very important and don't i wa...
which wep
mystic lark
Honestly it would be more interesting if 32 heat was an achievement
mystic lark
Achievements are too easy
stone rune
not particularly
maiden narwhal
ok
stone rune
on zeus your dash strike has a low base damage
fervent radish
I think there should be achievements for heat up until 50 even
stone rune
you want fiery to be used on the special, or attack if you have cshot
lavish sorrel
I think there should be achievements for heat up until 50 even
No, screw that
fervent radish
Zeus shield does mostly sustained damage so fiery isn’t that useful
stone rune
without hammers special is ur highest base damage part of your kit
fervent radish
No, screw that
Ok lemme reword. I don’t think there’s any reason to not have achievements up to a very high heat
stone rune
swift flourish is not useful on zeus
fervent radish
I’m not an achievement focused player, but I think sgg’s reason to not have a 32 heat steam achievement doesn’t make a ton of sense
upper wolf
I'm totally fine with achievements that are not accessible to most, even completionists, but that'd require a shift in mentality about achievements being "mandatory"
maiden narwhal
But then why is there a literal reward in the game for beating 32 heat
what is?
lavish sorrel
Ok lemme reword. I don’t think there’s any reason to not have achievements up to...
50 heat's inaccessible at the slightest disability. As someone with poor hand to eye coordination, 50 heat is a chore. I do not even wish to know what some others with worse disabilities endure
fervent radish
The last skelly statue
stone rune
50 heat's inaccessible at the slightest disability. As someone with poor hand to...
this is where sgg's masterful game design comes into play
mirage shot beo was planned all along
maiden narwhal
i don't have the first skelly statue
and if it's a cosmetic collectible is it really a reward
any more than rank is
fervent radish
50 heat's inaccessible at the slightest disability. As someone with poor hand to...
You could scale that disability more and say that the normal game is unplayable by some. That’s why god mode exists
fervent radish
I'm totally fine with achievements that are not accessible to most, even complet...
Wdym mandatory
stone rune
i dont think the game works as it's intended to at 50 heat
upper wolf
50 heat's inaccessible at the slightest disability. As someone with poor hand to...
tbh I'd say the solution is more finding handicap accomodations in the game than nerfing achievements. Though there's a limit to how much you can modify the game to help disabled people
lavish sorrel
You could scale that disability more and say that the normal game is unplayable ...
Even with godmode 50 heat is tough, dragon. Also you're creating a strawman argument here, get that garbage out
lavish sorrel
Yeah 40 heat sounds fine to me
upper wolf
Wdym mandatory
There's a big mentality around achievements being good things to get and the goal is getting the most of them. Even ones that are not intended to be doable by simple mortals, or ones that are literally about failures
maiden narwhal
addled for 52% attack or flayed for an extra cast?
neither condition is a big deal
upper wolf
Or ones that are not fun in the slightest
stone rune
addled for 52% attack or flayed for an extra cast?
neither condition is a big de...
this is still zeus?
maiden narwhal
this is still zeus?
yes
i had to waste a roll cause you said don't dash strike and that was the best on offer
stone rune
attack for sure
maiden narwhal
tik
stone rune
yes
i had to waste a roll cause you said don't dash strike and that was the best...
its fine to not benefit much from chaos on zeus
most of the time ur build is largely flat damage
which chaos doesnt scale
fervent radish
Even with godmode 50 heat is tough, dragon. Also you're creating a strawman argu...
- I know the game is tough at high heats. As someone who hasn’t beaten that high, I would be fine if there was a 64 heat achievement, knowing that I would never get it.
- I’m trying to be careful and not strawman, but your call. To clarify, you are saying that slight disabilities could lead to 50 heat being impossible for someone. I’m asking why 50 heat is a special case and why we don’t consider as well people who can’t beat EM3 Theseus, or 16 heat, or even 0 heat without god mode. What is the difference between these cases that compels us to give achievements for some and not for others?
stone rune
it would actually suck ass if there was a 64 heat achievement
fervent radish
Idk I think it would be funny
lavish sorrel
For some, the endgoal is to get all achievements
So having one near-impossible one is unfun
upper wolf
For some, the endgoal is to get all achievements
Yeah, and I find that mindset unhealthy tbh
fervent radish
But I’m generally not someone who plays to 100% games which seems to be the divide here
I only made an attempt on hades since I was like 10 away after casually playing
stone rune
for most people if they see the 64 heat achievement they probably wont even know how to get that high without a guide
since i assume most people are not on hell mode to start
mystic lark
If there was a 64 heat achievement, I would probably give up without even trying to get others, since I would know that I would not be able to get 100% achievements and that nice badge
fervent radish
So having one near-impossible one is unfun
But when why doesn’t this apply to the skelly statue?
mint coral
If there was a 64 heat achievement you'd see a comically large amount of steam achievements manager use tbh
mint lantern
guys, should i trade tempest flourish rare lvl 3 for thunder flourish epic lvl 3? using chiron bow
stone rune
for someone who wants to 100% the game the game would now end in a miserable experience and then giving up 99.999999% of the time
no
mint coral
Unless you want to revamp the whole heat system so 64 is considered into the being beatable range
maiden narwhal
So having one near-impossible one is unfun
you kidding?
it'd be the funnest for the hardcore crowd
imagine being the first to get it
mint coral
And the hardcore crowd is such a small amount of players
fervent radish
Also I didn’t mean for 50 heat to have taken over my argument. It’s more just an extreme example. I want to focus on the discrepancy between 32 heat in game and on steam
As in, why does sgg place a reward in game for 32 but not on steam
Any argument pertaining to attainability and 100%ing a game applies to both or neither, so it just doesn’t make sense to me
stiff obsidian
there are people who skip 32 because its not a steam achievement
mystic lark
Any argument pertaining to attainability and 100%ing a game applies to both or n...
For the same reason there are badges :D
fervent radish
there are people who skip 32 because its not a steam achievement
Oh fair enough
stiff obsidian
But like if ur going to max all keepsakes and do all bounties why not just do 32 heat lmao
It is much less time consuming
fervent radish
Yeah, doesn’t make sense to me personally
But if there’s one person that for some weird reason sees a difference in authority between in game rewards and steam achievements, I must concede
rugged pivot
Is there a way to force the "bad idea" trophy?
Basically the one where you have to use a god's aid against themselves in a chamber where you have to choose a boon out of two
Is it just pray to God you get the right room?
mint coral
Kinda yeah
Getting the trial in aspho is easier iirc cuz you can just stand in lava to charge your call
But getting the right trial is just luck
mint coral
I don't know how trials are decided to appear but maybe not filling up your god pool will help
Just have 2 gods in your pool
mystic lark
Is it just pray to God you get the right room?
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Trial_of_the_Gods
There are some conditions
stone rune
trials only appear in rooms with multiple exits
and have a cooldown after appearing of i believe 15 rooms
stone rune
i once was on luci 50
took a zeus/soething trial in tart
zeus gave me epic jolted
and it was the worst enemy set ive ever seen
stiff obsidian
What is cAustic
stone rune
bomb drop on kill enemy
stiff obsidian
That sucks
stiff obsidian
zeus gave me epic jolted
formal citrus
guys, should i trade tempest flourish rare lvl 3 for thunder flourish epic lvl 3...
mega late, but probs not as lightning bolts (from the same source?) have a 0.2s cooldown on the same target. I think the max you can get on a chiron special is like 2 or 3. Maybe even 1.
rustic vale
mega late, but probs not as lightning bolts (from the same source?) have a 0.2s ...
Same source on same enemy
1-2 bolts is typically it for chiron unless you have double strike
mint coral
Nah
maiden narwhal
why is mini boss em asterius more difficult than em heros?
mystic lark
Maybe room is smaller
maiden narwhal
is it because zag is that much weaker?
mystic lark
Imho I would prefer EM Hades to EM heroes
maiden narwhal
em heroes i find relatively easy
mystic lark
Asterius becomes a fricking helicopter
maiden narwhal
but furies and asterius is wow
maiden narwhal
Asterius becomes a fricking helicopter
that's when you chase after theseus!
i fought him without an attack boon
that might have added to the discomfort some
well
31 is furthest i've gone
mystic lark
Yeah, lol
Maybe Pat is waiting in the next room? :D
You may want to try stubborn defiance
vernal willow
You should be able to romance alecto
maiden narwhal
zag way too vanilla
vernal willow
Nah zag got some freak in em just need to unlock it, instead of hearts its just a freak meter
mystic lark
You should be able to romance alecto
Don't want to romance her, but would be nice to see her change her attitude after being beaten over and over
rugged pivot
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Trial_of_the_Gods
There are some conditions
Thank you
Luckily I just got it rn
mystic lark
Nice!
rugged pivot
In Elysium, I was lucky because I could just farm the respawning soldiers
But honestly idk how I could've done it without these guys
I guess I got really lucky
rugged pivot
I tried but I'm also doing a run with all the opposite mirror upgrades
For the prophecy
So I didn't want to risk too much
rugged pivot
I think I am locked out of the plat
What do you need to do to unlock the "infernal arms" trophy?
Reveal all hidden aspects and buy them right?
I did that, bought all of the fourth aspects for each weapon once
mystic lark
Yeah, AFAIK toy need to put blood at least once into every aspect
rugged pivot
Yeah I just did that thank god
I thought I was locked out of the plat after such a huge grind
mystic lark
Did you get all the keepsakes maxed out already?
rugged pivot
Nope
That one is the grindiest probably
I'm missing 10 trophies (one is the plat itself) and 5 of them are to fulfill prophecies I haven't even unlocked
I checked out if I found those between the ones I have already fulfilled just to see if I was locked out of the plat but no, I simply haven't unlocked those
void vigil
im pretty sure you cant get locked out of anything
stiff obsidian
im pretty sure you cant get locked out of anything
i think theres the romance y/n decision you have to make
void vigil
well yeah but thats a decision for you to make, it doesnt lock you out of anything no matter what you choose
youll just miss a few voice lines in either way but whatever
rugged pivot
I mean sometimes trophies just bug out
stiff obsidian
youll just miss a few voice lines in either way but whatever
unacceptable
rugged pivot
Happened to me quite a few times
But it was for games I could start over
But no way in hell I'm restarting Hades
stone rune
i never actually did all keepsake achievement
void vigil
no trophy bugged out on me, in fact i got almost all of them retroactively
theyre fine
stone rune
i dont think ive done a single run where i used some of the keepsakes
distant memory
black shawl
feather duster
rugged pivot
Yeah I'm just using all of them and slowly ranking them up in no heat runs
rugged pivot
I don't really need bounties anywah
stone rune
i also never unlocked hades or gilga lol
void vigil
i have 100%'d the game in every sense that isnt a self imposed challenge
stone rune
i have 100%d the game on steam when i loaded the max save file
stiff obsidian
when wasthe last time you played?
void vigil
me?
stiff obsidian
yea
void vigil
i think a couple of days ago just because its the game i come back to when i dont want to do anything else
stiff obsidian
😌
void vigil
but i did the ranks months ago, and all of my important mirror perks are already maxed
but a few days ago i started a new save because im streaming it for someone so no darkness progress
stiff obsidian
gl
void vigil
stiff obsidian
my time has come to play beowulf
rugged pivot
Btw is there a way to get more legendary boons?
I always get duos, so many duos
But I need a legendary one to purge
stiff obsidian
check codex for prereqs
stone rune
fulfill legendary prereqs and dont open duos
rugged pivot
Codex in-game?
rugged pivot
fulfill legendary prereqs and dont open duos
Basically I shouldn't accept duos?
stone rune
no
dry mauve
no, as in do not take the prerequisite boons that unlock duos
stone rune
as in dont take boons that fulfill duo prereqs
stiff obsidian
dry mauve
when the game generates boons it first makes any forced boons (for example, if you're missing a core slot then one will be forced)
afterwards each remaining slot has a 12% chance to be legendary/duo
stiff obsidian
Which of those were
check codex
void vigil
paraphraser.com
as in, refrain from acquiring the boons that will make duos appear
rugged pivot
Yeah but there are so many
dry mauve
if the 12% chance hits, it picks with equal odds any eligible legendary/duo
stiff obsidian
on kbm its C
dry mauve
so if you really want the legendary you should try not to unlock the ability to see a duo boon
since doing so immediately cuts your odds in half
void vigil
an easy one is poseidon honestly
go keepsake, get oceans bounty or sunken treasure, get legendary
rugged pivot
I could also just do runs and only take boons from one single god right?
mint coral
Good luck finding that 1 god
rugged pivot
go keepsake, get oceans bounty or sunken treasure, get legendary
Mh alr
mint coral
Good luck finding that 1 god
Non filled god pool means 1/8 to see who you want
rugged pivot
Oh meaning sometimes I could just be forced to pick a god that isn't the one I wany
mint coral
Can also go with plume and see if you get hermes legendary instead
rugged pivot
I could be fine playing with no boons, I'm doing no heay runs
dry mauve
Can also go with plume and see if you get hermes legendary instead
i dont recommend this, the odds are so low for hermes legendary
mint coral
Nvm forgot about pos' being a pre req lol
dry mauve
poseidon is a lot easier
mint coral
i dont recommend this, the odds are so low for hermes legendary
Yeah I didn't mean it as a main strat
dry mauve
hermes legendary has 1% base odds compared to 12% for normal gods
mint coral
Just swap to plume after just in case but then remembered
rugged pivot
I got the Aphrodite one
But I haven't found a place to purge it
I'll use Poseidon's keepsake next run
mystic lark
Did you get "haste of hermes" already?
rugged pivot
What is that?
mystic lark
Trophy for getting 20% on his keepsake
mint coral
But I haven't found a place to purge it
No rolls for the purging well?
mystic lark
M, okay. I thought you could try to get his legendary while doing that, but oh well
mint coral
No rolls for the purging well?
Or like did you finish the run already
rugged pivot
No rolls for the purging well?
I didn't found the thing itself, because I found the boon too late
I basically did all the tunnels even after finding cerberus's distraction
mint coral
Oh you got it at styx
rugged pivot
But sadly I didn't find it
I finished the run already, killed dad too
What is Styx?
mystic lark
Hate those rats :c
rugged pivot
Then when I got the boon I explored the remaining tunnels but I didn't find another one
mystic lark
Which is really sad, because I had rats irl and they are so sweet
Always sad to kill them in hades
rugged pivot
mystic lark
quasi dust
Cute rat
devout terrace
🥺
rugged pivot
Aight I got it thank you
Basically whenever I got a boon I would go in the Poseidon section and read the duo boon he had with the god I just found a boon of
And try to avoid boons that were in the conditions
mint coral
an easy one I remember is athena/artemis dash won't open their duo with pos
if your pos core is not cast, ares is chill too
same for dem
zeus can't open if you only have tidal dash
rugged pivot
I see
mint coral
the rest all open the duo no matter the core
stone rune
zeus may be the worst aspect in the game
mystic lark
Cmon, it is quite fun
stone rune
literally horrendous
mystic lark
:C
mystic lark
You can always just hit them with something else, or just run around with your special following you
stone rune
for some reason i dont think thats gonna be particularly efficient
mystic lark
Well, running away from your special is quite efficient
stone rune
how l
mystic lark
You know, when you press special again, it starts flying back to you. If you go somewhere while it is following, it keeps damaging everything on its way
stone rune
how exactly is that efficient
trim spire
latent moon
You know, when you press special again, it starts flying back to you. If you go ...
jazz is trying so sub6 with zeus lmao
having the special chase you isn't very time efficient
mystic lark
jazz is trying so sub6 with zeus lmao
Oh lol, I think I mistook him for someone else, I thought he was trying to go low heat
fervent radish
She
mystic lark
Pardon T_T
That's one of the hard parts in english - in russian you almost always use some gendered words when talking about yourself or what you are doing, so you almost always know pronouns of the person you are talking with
rustic vale
That's one of the hard parts in english - in russian you almost always use some ...
Where english it really only matters when you’re refering to a person without using their name
Outside of
jagged hamlet
Or you can be lazy and just use "they/them/their" for everyone!
rustic vale
Always safe
mystic lark
Are people always okay if they are referred to as "they"?
rustic vale
Hmm
not always
so my prior statement isn’t accurate
I can’t see why anybody would take issue with it but I’m sure ppl would
mystic lark
Finally, only 3 out of 224 tests are failing, and they are not my responsibility. Time to play hades after hours of work...
warm leaf
if i put curse of pain for the chiron special, and pair it with impending doom and dire misfortune, each volley only counts as 1 stack right?
rustic vale
if i put curse of pain for the chiron special, and pair it with impending doom a...
For dire misfortune each arrow hit counts as one doom application
but doom can only ever have 1 “stack” in the sense of hangover’s 5 and chill’s 10
so it’ll just be like +70 to your one doom drop * whatever additive
west relic
Starting my string of runs. Wish me luck
devout torrent
i got the ONE chaos boon i needed for the fated list and i died before the bane could go away rip 😔🙏
sage sphinx
okay question
do y'all recommend modded Hades?
more specifically
what mods do you recommend forgetting into modded hades lol
tepid light
Depends on what mods you're looking for
If you're looking for quality of life/speedrun stuff, @stone rune can probably help you with that
But if you're looking for stuff that adds more content to the game (e.g. more gods), I think the best/only option is OlympusExtra
sage sphinx
thanks!!
fervent radish
do y'all recommend modded Hades?
modded hades is a more consistent experience if you're pushing heat/time, but if you particularly like some of the stuff it removes, don't mod
referring to the speedrunning modpack
tepid light
i've mentioned before that i wish there was more mods akin to olympusextra rather than speedrun stuff
but with hades 2 coming out soon, it doesn't really matter
latent moon
olympusextra is prob the best mod out there content wise
voice acting, custom dialogue boons and effects
if you want qol stuff then speedrun modpack is great
sage sphinx
remind me what gods are in that one?
latent moon
hestia, apollo, and pretty sure one more
sage sphinx
I think I remember hera?
latent moon
yes hera
sage sphinx
not sure
latent moon
also you get cerby summon
tepid light
does olympusextra plan on continuing development after hades 2 comes out?
sage sphinx
also you get cerby summon
real talk it's so sad we don't get it in game
latent moon
no clue you'd have to ask in the modding discord
tepid light
mmm
tepid light
well, i suppose i'll find out eventually anyway
latent moon
real talk it's so sad we don't get it in game
i mean tbf dad gets cerby call in em4
sage sphinx
yeah, true
but like
we can't summon cerby :(
makes sense mechanically and flavor-wise
but still
also do you find any of Pony's QoL/balance mods good?
echo minnow
i miss thanatos
native blade
He misses you tooo
echo minnow
how do you mod games i have a really stupid mod idea
rustic vale
how do you mod games i have a really stupid mod idea
typically you write some code and just add it in with the game files
native blade
Is there a mod that lets u get back in the garden?
rustic vale
Is there a mod that lets u get back in the garden?
Iirc yes
native blade
Noice, send link pls?
echo minnow
is it easy to change dialogue
rustic vale
is it easy to change dialogue
Text dialogue… I mean
once you’ve found whichever dialogue it is out of 20000
Yeah
echo minnow
oh god
latent moon
also do you find any of Pony's QoL/balance mods good?
i haven't used it but none of it seems bad iirc lmao
and it's all toggle-able iirc
rustic vale
Noice, send link pls?
Give me a second, it’s been a while
native blade
Give me a second, it’s been a while
Np, take your time, pls.
echo minnow
What would you be replacing?
the name zagreus with smth else
lavish sorrel
https://www.nexusmods.com/hades/mods/127
Superior idea: beat ff every time 
||or have a Greece savestate that you can load||
stiff obsidian
Greece is overrated, all my homies love elysium
echo minnow
technically if you dont talk to persephone it wont kill you ?
this is true elysium is great
echo minnow
technically if you dont talk to persephone it wont kill you ?
so uou can just chill in greece
rustic vale
Greece is overrated, all my homies love elysium
Elysium overrated, all the homies love midfloors
echo minnow
ive got a question about zag
is he like canonically bi & polyam / ambiam ? or is he ( + than + meg ) unlabelled ?
like is it dependent on interpretation , headcanon & how you play or are there canon identities ?
native blade
like is it dependent on interpretation , headcanon & how you play or are there c...
This.
A canon identity would be headcanon
echo minnow
what
echo minnow
ive got a question about zag
is he like canonically bi & polyam / ambiam ? or i...
also chaos do they have a canon identity because i realised theyre referred to with they them
or are they all just guys simply existing
maiden narwhal
there's a mod with new content?
i wan
can i mod if i play from steam?
actually yeah i can i added a mod to path of exile
can someone tell me how to get the olympus extra thingy?
do i just google it and install it is it simple?
latent moon
it should be fairly straightforward
you can always ask the modding discord pinned in #self-promotion for help
echo minnow
I THINK I JUST ACCIDENTALLY FINISHED THE GAME ??????????????????
native blade
Lel, as per usual
echo minnow
if the credits start rolling does that mean its finished
i cant tell
what is going on
rugged pivot
also chaos do they have a canon identity because i realised theyre referred to w...
Have you seen that venom meme
echo minnow
what
rugged pivot
what
"SPIDERMAN OUR PRONOUNS ARE THEY THEM, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NON-BINARY, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE LITERALLY TWO..." And then n word
I guess that's pretty much what Chaos are lol
It gets explained a bit later in the game
echo minnow
oh is chaos multiple beings ?
rugged pivot
Yeah
echo minnow
oooh i see
native blade
oh is chaos multiple beings ?
*The Multiple beings, the one and only being that can be as multiple as they are.
echo minnow
who else up crying over hypnos and thanatos
native blade
who else up crying over hypnos and thanatos
^
brisk trail
...........
stiff obsidian
spam
nocturne kelp
...........
Bouldy ur cool‼️
rustic vale
what is going on
You aren’t done with the game unless you want to be
desert tundra
https://www.nexusmods.com/hades/mods/127
what does this do? just let you go back with the snowy path and then leave on the boat?
rancid sorrel
Game here to say that Asterious is the most baddest character (second Zag). Aterious does not want material things for victory, he thrives for the thrill of the battle. He fights for no one but himself. He simply enjoys the thrill of the battle. Love that guy.
lavish sorrel
Asterius *
rustic vale
what does this do? just let you go back with the snowy path and then leave on th...
“This mod allows the player to go back to Greece even after story is over. You can still fish, see the narrator say what happen to Zagreus while in Garden and take the boat up left to be taken by the Styx.”
-mod description
desert tundra
“This mod allows the player to go back to Greece even after story is over. You c...
on second thought I shouldve just went to read it, lol thanks
maiden narwhal
so i actually did go from 20 to 25
but now i gotta do it again
because i killed him and then he killed me. IN THAT ORDER
he said DOH!
but then game gave me the death
so now i gotta do it again
armoured flamewheels in erebus can gobble my crank
upper wolf
BP stands for benefit package. BP2 stands for BIG PAIN
maiden narwhal
and splitters on speed omg
i love it tho
max bp
all their fanci buffs
feels like new content
mint coral
Bp is funny until you get that one combo
Cue the classic savior numbskulls w/o dash in hestia
nocturne kelp
Touhou mentioned, I'm here
upper wolf
touhouseus
nocturne kelp
Touhouseus
void vigil
toyhouses...?
nocturne kelp
toyhouses.
maiden narwhal
em lernie stomp hitbox goes BIG normal smol
is it the same for normal lernie?
i don't remember it being so huge
imagine dying to lernie 😔
hahaha teleporting armoured flamewheels wow
nocturne kelp
These scare me in erebus (I had to confess.)
maiden narwhal
erebus too small for flamewgeels i dashed through two and straight into elite splitter fire
rugged pivot
imagine dying to lernie 😔
Empowered lernie is evil
There's so little space to move
stiff obsidian
Theseus visits erebus comfirmed
nocturne kelp
Erebus‼️
maiden narwhal
btw i love that the game has heroic elites but why do i only see them in erebus?
mint coral
Super elites are what dad summons
maiden narwhal
huh i've not noticed
i guess by then you don't really notice the cannon fodder
until the heat gets high
normal dad summons usually just die to all the detritus damage
if you don't force gods for the first two levels, do you go coin purse hourglass?
or hourglass coin purse?
is there a third option?
tisiphone stunned me out of my call wow
too impressed to be mad
also alecto spinny blades in tisiphone tiny chamber 🤌🤌
dry mauve
if you don't force gods for the first two levels, do you go coin purse hourglass...
coin purse + filler usually
filler is often something like skull earring or pom blossom or whatever
doesnt really matter too much
i think hourglass is better to take in elysium
since you can get value from the wells in elysium, then buy from the well after the boss fight before switching off
and if you get 2 sack then your well items might still be active for the final boss fight
mystic lark
I like going with shackle into tartarus and getting core boons with higher grade when I find them
maiden narwhal
since you can get value from the wells in elysium, then buy from the well after ...
i didn't connect these dots thanks
maiden narwhal
I like going with shackle into tartarus and getting core boons with higher grade...
hey that's perfect
dry mauve
yeah one option is to take purse in asphodel
and take like, pom blossom or shackle in tartarus
to speed things up
maiden narwhal
shackle coinpurse hourglass
although heros without acorn means i need a really good elysium
dry mauve
skull earring is pretty good in asphodel imo if you took coinpurse earlier
its a lot of damage
and you're often at fairly low hp numbers in asphodel from my experience
especially on higher heat + stubborn defiance
you're often resetting to 30% via lava
maiden narwhal
since you can get value from the wells in elysium, then buy from the well after ...
on that note, always bouldy before sys
because one time it gave me +7% to gold and then sys gold was more \o/
maiden narwhal
and you're often at fairly low hp numbers in asphodel from my experience
yeah man i'm losing lives to lernie
and the couple is even worse that stone drop is harder to time than dad swing
latent yacht
lmao i was doing a 32 heat run and turns out it was the last main story run where Hades just lets you go to see Persephone so i didn't have to fight him
mystic lark
Was it a fresh file, or did you really go 32 heat on tenth escape?
mystic lark
100% with badges? :D
latent moon
high heat on 10th win is funny
mint coral
lmao i was doing a 32 heat run and turns out it was the last main story run wher...
Lmaoooo
stiff obsidian
high heat on 10th win is funny
:gladge:
raw thunder
I’m interested in what my run history looks like after resetting 100 times to not get aspect of arthur
fading sail
Greetings. I have few achievements left revolving around Prophecies. Can I just lose runs deliberately so certain events happen faster, or do I have to play normally?
torn phoenix
play however you want
mint coral
Depends which events these are
fading sail
play however you want
I've played the "base" game a lot, so now I only want to get my remaining achievements, so if it's possible to skip runs by losing I'd do that. If not, I'll have to play normally
fading sail
Depends which events these are
I guess I'll have to google what I need then. Thanks
mint coral
I guess I'll have to google what I need then. Thanks
I mean you could tell which achievements are you missing 
fading sail
Shall I use spoiler tags?