#h1-discussion

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drowsy linden
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hair counts

quasi dust
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true

late pagoda
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hair does not count

quasi dust
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at least she's pretty ig

late pagoda
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she's married and yet cheats with ares lol

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at least she's pretty

desert tundra
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Yeah nah, they're gods they do not care in the slightest lmao

covert hare
desert tundra
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Greek gods at that

quasi dust
late pagoda
covert hare
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Is weird that you can date than and Meg because all of you are adoptive brothers

late pagoda
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its greek mythology

quasi dust
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greek mythology is so weird

rancid axle
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Thanzagluv

late pagoda
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thats like the most tame relationship

drowsy linden
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you can semi ruin their relationships by not accepting their requests to search zags bedroom

quasi dust
late pagoda
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out of greek mythology

covert hare
upper wolf
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nah you can say no and you stay friend

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no romance, but still big platonic love

drowsy linden
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when they offer you a search, leaving the room makes them give generic dialogue instead

upper wolf
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tbh I think I like the zag/meg dialogue for saying no more than the one for saying yes

mint coral
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I said yes cuz why not but frankly speaking I should've just rejected both

upper wolf
late pagoda
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imagine soft locking yourself out of a poly relationship lol

desert tundra
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Me fr

drowsy linden
late pagoda
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I would be dumb enough to somehow achieve it irl

quasi dust
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i said yes to than is that bad

drowsy linden
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assumming my current save has saved it

rancid axle
upper wolf
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how could it even be bad

quasi dust
quasi dust
covert hare
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I wonder if speed runners say yes or no to since they have Meg companion

upper wolf
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there's no speedrun that goes to that point afaik

desert tundra
quasi dust
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no offense to meg fans (i like her don't get me wrong) but i only went with thanzagcry

upper wolf
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unless some madman/woman decides to speedrun a 100% file

mint coral
late pagoda
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Meg is mean

desert tundra
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Zag is a true gamer though, cause he would just respawn

upper wolf
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wait there is ? zaglol

late pagoda
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I love her, but she's mean

rancid axle
mint coral
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Yes it even has a guide lmao

late pagoda
covert hare
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Petcerberus20times% when

quasi dust
quasi dust
stiff obsidian
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hot take petting cerberus is overrated

quasi dust
upper wolf
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I hate how long the animation lock is

rancid axle
upper wolf
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you pet cerberus for 2 seconds, and you're locked for 10

quasi dust
upper wolf
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that's like 20% pet efficiency ! I WANT TO PET MORE

stiff obsidian
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yea that and the skelly statue one too

quasi dust
covert hare
late pagoda
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Hot take: you don't need to pet cerberus if you don't want to

quasi dust
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that's true (i always pet him anyway bcs i'll feel bad if i don't)

desert tundra
late pagoda
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Incorrect take
Goo goobie

desert tundra
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True

drowsy linden
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i dont pet cerb unless required

late pagoda
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you are the scourge of the land

covert hare
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You guys think zag wears the spiked collar or just carries it

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Because it has to be a very big collar

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So how do you carry that

quasi dust
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maybe as a belt?

late pagoda
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🧍

quasi dust
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or smth?

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idk

late pagoda
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its in his super secret pocket

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for all his trinkets

quasi dust
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lmao

mystic lark
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Why are miniboss rooms less annoying than regular rooms in Styx ._.

covert hare
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And it still has liquid all the time

quasi dust
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huh

late pagoda
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Its dionysus

quasi dust
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i never stopped to think abt that

late pagoda
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it probably just fills back up

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all the companions aren't summoned they just sit in the pocket until needed

mystic lark
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Jesus made wine from water, Dio makes wine from air

quasi dust
mint coral
late pagoda
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yeah, dionysus the god of wine

upper wolf
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miniboss is one enemy

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regular room is the entire american army

covert hare
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Worst miniboss is the asphodel couple

upper wolf
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ok I'm exaggerating, it's the entire army of the Imperium of Man

mystic lark
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YES

mint coral
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Power couple is fine

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Barge is lame

drowsy linden
upper wolf
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power couple needs some learning to

quasi dust
mint coral
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MM barge is kinda cool at least

rancid axle
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Witches Circle without Athena

drowsy linden
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easy

mint coral
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Just learn the meg set up

drowsy linden
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just facetank

quasi dust
upper wolf
covert hare
stiff obsidian
mint coral
late pagoda
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Hot take: lava is my enemy

stiff obsidian
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never heard of

mint coral
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Only issue of modded is that I kinda miss tony

quasi dust
covert hare
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Worst miniboss is butterfly ball

mint coral
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And also the fact I can't hear to the bloodless which is my fav song lmao

drowsy linden
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magma is free, just like hs

quasi dust
late pagoda
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And yet my favorite character is in the magma zone

upper wolf
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you can remove the "no tony/asterius/barge" in modded

stiff obsidian
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i can say without a doubt i have never and will never miss tony 🗣️ 🙏

late pagoda
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it sucks but I have to deal with it

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who is tony

upper wolf
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you should not if going for good speedrun times

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but you can

late pagoda
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Who's tony

upper wolf
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tiny vermin

quasi dust
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it's name is tony??????

upper wolf
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sure

covert hare
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If you kill him he is still tony ?

mint coral
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Someone in speedcord typo'd tiny into tony

late pagoda
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ohhh

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tony vermin

mint coral
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Big rat is anthony btw

quasi dust
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ahhh

late pagoda
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antony

quasi dust
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ok that's really funny

late pagoda
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antony

quasi dust
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freakin' tony

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won't miss ya bud

mystic lark
late pagoda
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I wish you could summon Hypnos tbh...

covert hare
mystic lark
zealous ridge
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hey, i have trouble with the bow anyone have any tips?

late pagoda
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exactly, I would love it

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just make people go to sleep for a period of time

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but you have to time it so its in the right spot

mint coral
late pagoda
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so they hit his cloud

covert hare
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Imagine summoning orfeo and he starts a rhythm game

quasi dust
mystic lark
upper wolf
late pagoda
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Imagine summoning Charon and it sends you to the next level

mint coral
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You have to pay a fee for charon for it to work

covert hare
late pagoda
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yeh yeh like an ambrosia or something

mint coral
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No way he accepts that as payment

late pagoda
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what would he except??

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gems?

mint coral
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More moneyyyy

upper wolf
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cold hard cash

quasi dust
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definitely

late pagoda
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actual cash from your bank account

quasi dust
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god no

late pagoda
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gotta put in your credit card numbers every time you use it

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its a dlc item

mint coral
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Pay up or fight him in a hugher difficulty version to proceed

late pagoda
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if you die you have to give him your bank account

quasi dust
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oh no

zealous ridge
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so i have talked to boldy alot does he ever talk?

mint coral
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Yeah

late pagoda
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Hear me supergiant, make it a reality

mint coral
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I loved it when he said ...

mystic lark
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Him giving you ability to summon him instead of credit card would be fun too

covert hare
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They missed the chance to make an Hermes call where you go so fast you summon after images of you

late pagoda
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GOTTA GO FAST!

zealous ridge
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does anyone kow of good hades art? im trying to put art in my room

mint coral
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If you wanna see zag go fast look at the eris route

covert hare
mint coral
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It has like 15+ ichors (probably exaggerating, been a while)

upper wolf
mystic lark
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Hermes call - works like a Poseidon call, but you are way, way faster and deal more damage. But if you hit a wall, you take lots of damage yourself

covert hare
late pagoda
upper wolf
quasi dust
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i love the art in this game

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goals

covert hare
zealous ridge
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where can i find offical art?

mint coral
# covert hare Bro that’s straight up dopping

https://youtu.be/9uxwL56VE2E?t=1150

YouTube
Latt Millard
Eris Rail in 3:15 IGT | Full Route Executed | Hades Speedrun

This is a RNG manipulated Hades speedrun using the Eris Rail aspect, we start on a specific seed and manipulate RNG using summons, voicelines, casts and all sorts of other actions to get the same boons, rooms, and enemies each run, in Hades Speedrunning we call this "Routed" and it is both extremely precise and incredibly rewarding.

The theme o...

▶ Play video
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Look at this lad move through styx bouldy

covert hare
mint coral
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Check out the dad fight too

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You'll see peak rush delivery

upper wolf
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I imagine you can find it on Supergiant games' website

mint coral
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All the merch is in fangamer now

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Ik there's posters of the biomes but idk if they are in stock rn

quasi dust
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the chthonic gods poster>>>>>>

upper wolf
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is that the one with chaos in the background ?

mystic lark
quasi dust
upper wolf
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Yeah it's awesome

quasi dust
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beautiful

mystic lark
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Is it modded, or is there a legit way to get so many?

mint coral
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Is a routed run

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So they manip rng to get all of that

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That's why you can see them casting/opening codex before doors

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Without tools at most you can seed like the first 2 chambers of a run

covert hare
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There is no energy in my house, I hate Zeus

mint coral
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Bc you can breath and it would somehow change the rng

upper wolf
late pagoda
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I max levelled charon last night :D

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idk what that does for me but also, pretty cool :D

mint coral
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Cool sticker (if you meant the bond)

late pagoda
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you just get a sticker??

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bruh :(

upper wolf
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Hey !

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it's a kickass sticker

mint coral
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Charon deserves the ambrosia anyways

late pagoda
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its a kickass sticker but also like...my discount 🧍

mint coral
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Gotta throw hands for that

late pagoda
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I don't wanna fight him :(

upper wolf
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He wouldn't want to fight himself either zaglol

mystic lark
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Zeus does not want to give me his call T_T

covert hare
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ZEUS is this how you face me you cowardzagmad

mystic lark
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And on the new run call is the first thing he offered. Uncle is acting tsundere ._.

mystic lark
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Damn it. I got 10:00:48. But now these 48 ms keep bugging me. Damn it. If only I got smoldering air before styx...

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Ugh

upper wolf
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Strength to you, it always sucks to miss a mark by less than a second zagsad

steep condor
quasi dust
steep condor
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i had the impulse like a month ago but i have never getting anything done syndrome so i didn't

quasi dust
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honestly i might do it but also i have sm stuff pending

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if i do tho would you like to see it?

steep condor
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sure! you could also post it in the fanworks channel

quasi dust
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definitely

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might take a while but i'll try to do it

mint coral
mystic lark
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Alright, I have almost 4 hours before it is 4 am. Maybe I could get sub ten...

mint coral
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The ideal is that you go tidal dash then depends on who you find

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If artemis/ares go hunting blades
Zeus/athena lightning phalanx

mystic lark
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Yeah, I saw that build. After going for it for a while it got kinda boring doing the same thing, so I changed to shackle for tartarus + asphodel, trying to get a good call before and cast before other main boons

brisk trail
drowsy linden
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i apologize for the epic video quality

upper wolf
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oh that

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Yeah it's "normal", the room changes when you exit it

mystic lark
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AND I DID IT

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Thank gods, I can sleep not thinking about these 48 ms

vague peak
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SK - Control Map
———————|-•-|
||Attack > LB
Dash > RB
Special > RT
Cast > B
—————-
Reload > LT
Interact > A
Gift & Misc. > B
Summon > X
Call > Y
——————
Codex > RS
Alt Dash> LS||
———————-|

vague peak
rustic vale
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Oh what

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that looks crazy

vague peak
proper tusk
vague peak
mint coral
rustic vale
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Presumably since it’s out of combat

proper tusk
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i would love to have 2 dash buttons

vague peak
vague peak
mint coral
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I mean if it works

vague peak
mint coral
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there isn't a meta keybinds

vague peak
late pagoda
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I just finished my first run in hades!!!!

vague peak
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Good job!

late pagoda
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Dionysus's healing pool thing was really helpful

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sobbing <3

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god I love persephone and zagreus's relationship zagcry

sullen yew
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can someone help me with my mirror setup i want to try 32 heat for the first time and i dont know what the best mirror setup for that is

mint coral
sullen yew
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ty very much

drowsy linden
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sometimes i bind jump to up arrow, sometimes space
normally i bind up to up arrow, and then theres hk with up being binded to w(dont ask)
i bind dash to either e or r

gentle moss
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Hey all, just got to the room for the first time. Didn't quite pull it off, big guy had about a third of his health left before I was bested but, what a ride so far. My build was wild, the Stygian Blade with some critical multipliers from Artemis and the homing Bladerift Duo blessing, paired with an attack damage multiplier based on my coin onhand + Chaos giving me bonus coins per earning. Awesome game shadethumbsup I feel like every other build just continues to blow my mind

upper wolf
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well, here's something to blow your mind further : hoarding slash is not multiplicative. with anything. If you have 500 obols, you'll have 25 more damage on your (dash/)strikes and that's all. No crits, no bonus damage from boons, nothing

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But yeah, hunting blade goes brrr

rustic vale
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And it’s because it gets added at the very end of the damage step

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after all the additive multiplying and all the crit multipling

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the only actual boost to it is dedge

upper wolf
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I got out-nerded zagsad

rustic vale
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double hits = double damage boost

rustic vale
upper wolf
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I chose to out nerd your out nerding by pointing out flurry slash is technically a boost to hoarding slash too ! y'know, if you sometimes don't dash-strike

rustic vale
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Merciful end’s 40 damage boost

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Is also extra damage

rustic vale
upper wolf
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based

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and dedge-pilled ?

rustic vale
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I am the sword hammer pilled of all time

late pagoda
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hey why do people use hammer as a weapon classification

rustic vale
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This lil thing found in bananas 32 heat guide

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Is mine

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Now let me charge my phone it’s 1%

stiff obsidian
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I start flurry slash

rustic vale
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What does that mean

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Am I too tired to understand this zagpls

late pagoda
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I don't know man, people keep using it in videos

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"oh get this hammer to up your attack power" idk I've been watching to many videos

mint coral
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Hammers often make a big difference

rustic vale
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Yeah Double Edge literally doubles your dps with sword

mint coral
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Look at bow that doubles/triples its dmg with 1 hammer

rustic vale
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Hammers are a crucial part of weapons

mint coral
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Some also have the luxury of having more than 1 good hammer

stiff obsidian
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😌

rustic vale
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hold up we have Bug and Monky in chat rn shadeohboy

oak beacon
oak beacon
rustic vale
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Tbh though I never watch Hades videos unless it’s speedruns

stone rune
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that crucial 20% additive lol

rustic vale
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Or the fact that’s it’s ME most of the time so how far does the doubling really go

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For crit builds the 20% definitely goes farther though

oak beacon
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Out of curiosity...what is yall's LEAST fave weapon? thanthink For me it's gotta be rail, I generally prefer melee style combat (I'm a fists + spear main) but I feel like it's so hard to get good reliable damage with it

rustic vale
mint coral
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Sword too

stone rune
rustic vale
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Rail is a melee weapkn

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don’t let the option of range fool you

stone rune
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raill will have much better damage than fists or most spears

oak beacon
stone rune
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in hades everything is melee

oak beacon
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Always curious about other's playstyles

mint coral
rustic vale
stone rune
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true

rustic vale
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Spear is the only weapon in Hades that has viable builds that play ranged

stiff obsidian
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Only Eris and spreadfire zagrail are melee

rustic vale
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Rail can just be up in your facd

stone rune
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i think

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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What's lucifer

rustic vale
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hestia plays range too I guess

stone rune
rustic vale
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Tidal dash and lightning strike are like the most consistent damage in the world

stiff obsidian
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Tdash propoganda 👎

mint coral
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Kril iissue

rustic vale
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Tdash propaganda exists for the same way my god’s pride propagand folder exists

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because it’s true

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Find rocket bomb and clsuter bomb and get beeg special damage too

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(Not consistent to find both though)

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I mean rng maniping anvil is an option 50% of the time but

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Rng maniping anvil is both late and less desirable to most players

oak beacon
rustic vale
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uhhhh

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If it hindered you

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You didn’t rng manip

oak beacon
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Oh I'm sorry I didn't read the entire context

rustic vale
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unless you decided to just leave with worse hammers

oak beacon
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I'm like half drunk rn lol

rustic vale
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That explains it

oak beacon
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May Dionysus be with me shadesmile

rustic vale
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You can uh… “save scum” anvil if that wording makes more sense to you

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it’s just a long and tedious process with no guarantee for ever seeing the options you want

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which only gets longer the more time you spend

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2/10 would not recommend, despite me recommending it whenever I can

oak beacon
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Yea I gotcha lol, I'm somewhat familiar with RNGs manips like that though can't really execute them myself since I play on console

rustic vale
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It’s universal

oak beacon
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OHHH

rustic vale
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Regardless of device the process is the same

oak beacon
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I see I see

rustic vale
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you buy the anvil, see the options, don’t like them? exit the game and reenter

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then you cast or summon and buy the anvil

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don’t like it? Quit and reenter

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Now cast/summon twice

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rinse repeat until you either get the options you want or you get bored

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It gets very tedious very fast if you don’t get what you want early

oak beacon
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I see, probably won't become a habit for me but I'm saving this for later just in case I wanna try it shadethumbsup

rustic vale
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this also works for eurydice rarity boost /poms (this matters a lot less unless you have rush delivery) and bouldy

mint coral
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On rail iirc reloading also changes the rng

rustic vale
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even better for hestia fans then

mint coral
rustic vale
mint coral
rustic vale
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so it’s also true for eurydice

mint coral
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I never remember

rustic vale
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That means you also have to either be careful with dashing to eury or just always break all the pots

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I should go like actually play the games I want to play rather than sit on the Hades discord telling ppl stuff

stiff obsidian
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🙌

rustic vale
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Got Neon abyss for some discount so like

nimble patrol
stiff obsidian
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demeter ohw to give me the most trash boons ever

maiden narwhal
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if i'm playing me3 and my build isn't ready by elysium should i just give up and go again?

stiff obsidian
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if you just want the clear you can go on

maiden narwhal
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have to force a third god

feels so highly unlikely i'll clear them without an acorn

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even assuming i draw my duo

maiden narwhal
dry mauve
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if its lower heat then pretty much anything is doable

maiden narwhal
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i'm trying to get zeus on weapon and poseidon on dash cast call

dry mauve
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having a bad build only kills you for sure on like tight deadline 3

maiden narwhal
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bolt the hell out of everybody

maiden narwhal
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i find tight deadline [1]is a joke

stiff obsidian
maiden narwhal
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you can waste 10 minutes sitting around in styx and then realise you only have 2 minutes left, and still kill him

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so it's like a free +1

dry mauve
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so dying due to bad boons is a real threat

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on TD2 and below the timer is mostly free

maiden narwhal
dry mauve
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somewhere between 20 and 32 heat imo is where you actually need to start paying attention to builds imo

stiff obsidian
dry mauve
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idk exactly where the breakpoint is because a lot of people do that jump directly

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below 32 if you roll a bad build the run is still pretty winnable

latent moon
maiden narwhal
latent moon
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meta builds generally only need 2

latent moon
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like lvl 1 arthur is functionally the same as lvl 5 arthur

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but lvl 1 hestia is horrible

maiden narwhal
latent moon
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what aspect

maiden narwhal
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zeus shield

latent moon
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just take acorn and hope you get zeus special

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pos special on zeus is anti-synergy

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kinda

dry mauve
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zeus shield is one of the most flexible aspects assuming its maxed

maiden narwhal
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i'm assuming the shield will keep spitting lighting bolts with sea storm

latent moon
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you gotta be real damn good at it to make use of pos

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you'd be right but also just use thunder flourish

dry mauve
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it makes good use of all of its buttons and almost everything works fine on it

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though yeah, thunder flourish is best

latent moon
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sea storm zeus shield with pos special is quite literally just thunder flourish

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except you have a funky % modifier and you can get rupture

dry mauve
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if you want to have a strong build you can literally just force thunder flourish on floor 1 and then just take whatever the game gives you

latent moon
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rupture is the only good part for pos special tho

maiden narwhal
latent moon
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the % isn't really relevant, rupture is good but also you'd be asking a lot at that point

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not to mention that you kinda need static discharge too

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so a duo and 2 secondary curses

maiden narwhal
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so then athena was the mistake? i should just just done zeus poseidon acorn?

dry mauve
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one of zeus shield's big strengths imo is that you just add thunder flourish and that's basically all the rng you need until you get to ridiculous heats

latent moon
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athena is fine

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the problem is forcing poseidon

dry mauve
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after zeus special you can just take whatever shows up and still win

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the aspect is very strong and consistent

latent moon
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it's more like

maiden narwhal
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so zeus attack zeus special poseidon cast and dash?

latent moon
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trying to force sea storm is the problem

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the only thing that matters there is zeus special

maiden narwhal
latent moon
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pos dash kinda makes zeus shield kinda harder to play but doable

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but doesn't open sea storm since that's what you really want

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even tho sea storm isn't like that great lmao

maiden narwhal
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heresy

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what would you play then?

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merciful ending?

latent moon
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i mean literally just zeus special

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get static discharge

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and that's one of the most consistent and strongest builds in the game

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if you want a duo you'd go for either lightning rod or smoldering air

maiden narwhal
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ok i'm in elysium and special is still empty so i'll probably get it with the next zeus

latent moon
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yeah

stiff obsidian
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Where

latent moon
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have you checked between the couch cushions

maiden narwhal
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ok cool thanks
i really want to salvage this run

dry mauve
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put almost anything on special at this point...

stiff obsidian
dry mauve
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not having your special slot filled on zeus shield in elysium is absurd

maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
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Special zeus 🤮

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Real people play cshot zeus

latent moon
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based

maiden narwhal
dry mauve
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i tried charge shot zeus and its too hard for me to play

maiden narwhal
dry mauve
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having to do the charged shot pattern while also microing the shield is too many buttons...

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my fingers aren't fast enough

latent moon
#

cshot with lightning strike moment

stiff obsidian
maiden narwhal
dry mauve
#

the dps pattern of dash strike shield rush

#

i cant both charge attack and micro special at the same time with shield
for some reason it just doesnt click for me

stiff obsidian
#

i mean

#

ignore special

dry mauve
#

special is the most fun part of zeus shield though

#

i like microing it

maiden narwhal
dry mauve
#

so i just take explosive return/pulverising blow as my preferred hammers now instead of charge shot

#

since those dont make my special micro harder

maiden narwhal
#

silly i literally bought this mouse and pad to play hades better

#

cause i can't with q and need a mouse 4

latent moon
#

how many side buttons is that

maiden narwhal
#

it's a bad mouse

dry mauve
#

i just play on controller

maiden narwhal
#

but it gets the job done

latent moon
#

is that 5

maiden narwhal
#

but i ignore four

latent moon
#

lmao makes sense

#

i have 2 side buttons but i realistically only use 1

#

the other one is reload

maiden narwhal
#

it's perfect

you can spam attack cast and special with equal dexterity

maiden narwhal
#

but like for anyone playing mouse keyboard, a fourth mouse button is invaluable

stiff obsidian
#

i have 2 buttons

maiden narwhal
#

yeah usually mouse roller is also click down for mouse 3, but that's useless for gaming i've found

#

so all mouses have two buttons, or four

#

i had to buy a mousepad to get the bow clears 🤦

stiff obsidian
#

i play on a 2 button mouse without a mousepad lol

maiden narwhal
#

on a desk?

#

i play on bedsheets so

#

it wasn't working out

#

infact even now the bumps in the mattress are annoying af

stiff obsidian
#

whaa

maiden narwhal
#

asterius bronze armour looks incredible

maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
#

nice

maiden narwhal
#

there's this counterstrike clone [block/minecraft style] on steam called kuboom!

now it's rubbish, but a few years ago it was exactly like cs 6.24beta, back in 99.
which was the best cs by far

#

anyway i ranked 2nd on the global leader board

#

nobody believed me when i said i wasnt russian 🤌

#

but when i told them i play on my bedsheets on an 8 year old laptop with a plug in keyboard and a mouse with a right click that doesn't work

#

i sometimes wonder how much better i'd have been with a desk and decent equipment

stiff obsidian
#

hitless lernie 😌

maiden narwhal
#

nvm sea storm, didn't even find anything for the special

#

oh right my life went back up to half because of the darkness

thought i was hallucinating

maiden narwhal
#

sweet, beat dad without a defiance

#

forcing three gods was really dumb i almost didn't draw a single duo. but last poseidon i styx shop gave me sea storm

#

now to do it with a chaos egg

rustic vale
#

A lot of things

rustic vale
#

You need to practice with the heroes fight

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
#

it was on your cast

maiden narwhal
#

if i have exclusive access and epic hypersprint, should i reroll looking for epic rush delivery?

stiff obsidian
#

yes

maiden narwhal
#

my options are recovery haste and reload

#

haste and then rd in styx would be so nice tho

#

hm now i have haste evasion and strike

stiff obsidian
#

alternatively you take haste and get auto reload in styx

maiden narwhal
#

evasion?

#

idk if 1/5 dodge chance is that big a deal when they attack so slowly

#

but 40% move speed is zoomzoom

#

yeah

#

hahaha epic hypersprint + epic haste

#

common hypersprint is enough i think you're not going to move that much before the next dash strike anyway

stiff obsidian
#

Correct

maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
#

nnice

maiden narwhal
#

mobs just melting from flood cast alone

this run feels like cheating

#

think dad did 10 damage before he died twice

brisk trail
#

..........

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
#

do you think if i fought charon in styx he'd still be harder than hades?

#

idk if the fight shows up in styx

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
#

ah ok

#

charon took all my lives to kill him, and i didn't find an elysium ❕

i was worried i wouldn't get the two in a row prophecy

but hades couldn't touch me

upper wolf
#

charon doesn't change for his fights, no matter where you fight him

#

so in styx he would be at his easiest, because that's when you are the most advanced in your build

rustic vale
#

anyways charon is (mentally) the easiest take in tartarus because you have to least to lose and the most to gain

quasi dust
#

I tried explaining Hades to a guy on the bus and he gave me the most confused look ever

#

Help

upper wolf
#

infodumping gone wrong

#

Still better than trying to explain The Binding of Isaac to strangers.

quasi dust
quasi dust
#

I don't remember what I was told tho💀

desert tundra
maiden narwhal
#

is chariot theseus actually easier, because he doesn't have that damn shield?

upper wolf
#

Arguably

#

Personally I do find him easier

maiden narwhal
#

yes same

quasi dust
#

Same as well

covert hare
maiden narwhal
#

isaac is one of the only games i could play with a controller

maiden narwhal
#

if you're given the choice between ! and duo, do you always path ❕?

#

or is it need based?

rustic vale
#

time save is time save for both high heat and speedrunning, and the bonus you get is always useful

maiden narwhal
#

they should let us disable thanatos rooms

rustic vale
#

Y though

#

Free max hp and time save

maiden narwhal
#

just.. so unnecessary.

is it time save?

#

it takes ages sometimes

rustic vale
#

Clock is stopped

maiden narwhal
#

oooh

rustic vale
#

so unless you’re in a category that uses real life time

maiden narwhal
#

for 45 second rooms in tartarus too?

rustic vale
#

Yeah

maiden narwhal
#

ok that's good

#

another thing i only just realised

is keys give skulls

#

my dumb ass been pathing darkness for so long

rustic vale
maiden narwhal
#

it's my third play through so i click through all content

#

i must've unlocked key in contractor without reading it properly

#

idk why people say the story and the dialogue and the voice acting are the best part of this game

i mean.. those things are nice

#

but hitting things repeatedly is the best part of this game

#

surely

void vigil
#

This game is one of (if not the only) roguelite/roguelike that I played this much and what kept me playing throughout all of early access was the story, voice acting, dialogue etc

quasi dust
#

Same

stiff obsidian
#

i hate this game

stone rune
#

true

quasi dust
#

a

void vigil
#

Different strokes and all. I’m not huge on this genre of games but supergiant just make good games with appealing stories

maiden narwhal
#

roguelikes, rpg, hack and slash, platformers. they all overlap

#

the voice acting etc is great

#

but if not for the playability i'd have stopped playing ages ago

#

hollow knight and ori are probably the best games i've ever played. hades is definitely up there. but it's not the story that sets it apart, it's the pleasing playstyle

#

i looked for a lot of games "like hades" after i got bored of it

#

there aren't really any

void vigil
#

And that’s fair, I loved the story and it’s the main reason I played - but I played it well beyond that just because the gameplay is very fun

#

have you tried other supergiant games? Though if narrative is not your jam you may not like them idk

maiden narwhal
#

yes, i finished bastion
i enjoyed it, but i was terrible at it; i think i completed it with 35% the first time

#

the second was much more competent, but i didnt play it again after that

#

let me google pyre and transistor real quick

void vigil
#

Pyre and transistor are my equal faves but they aren’t really for everyone

maiden narwhal
#

they're not much more expensive than indie games

#

i'll buy transistor thanks!

#

art looks gorgeous

#

pyre looks perfect for me

#

but party play, sadly

covert hare
maiden narwhal
void vigil
# maiden narwhal but party play, sadly

pyre is single player and the multiplayer is local but there’s a group of people who play it through steam remote play if you’re ever interested after finishing the campaign

maiden narwhal
#

hades is nice for me because i've always been into greek mythology, since i was like.. 6 years old. so there was that extra enjoyment to the way they'd interpreted a lot of stuff

maiden narwhal
#

now idk how much more hades i'm going to play lol

#

great timing for my new gaming laptop

#

speaking of, is there a way in hades to change graphics settings? like low medium high?

covert hare
maiden narwhal
#

hollow knight had a ton but you have to.. discover it?

#

annoying

#

ori made me cry

#

idk why that fat dude had to die

covert hare
maiden narwhal
#

exactly

void vigil
#

Ori spoilers 😭

maiden narwhal
#

it's so old!

#

i think idk

void vigil
#

Yeah there’s a few launch options and such that can help you run hades on lower end

#

it is but I never played it LOL

maiden narwhal
#

i am not an early adopter, so if i've played it, it's probably old

void vigil
#

Been on my wishlist for ages

maiden narwhal
#

it's amazing

#

i preferred it to hollow knight

covert hare
#

That’s basically my problem with ori and hollow knight, you are in basically an appocalipse world so gettin lore requires a lot of searching

void vigil
#

Some people rlly like that

stiff obsidian
#

i want to play ori but im on dumb mac

maiden narwhal
#

i couldn't care less about the lore tho it was interesting but whatever

both those games were about pure playability

covert hare
maiden narwhal
#

what do they call them? metroid like?

covert hare
#

Metroidvania

maiden narwhal
#

ah i never played metroid

#

that was console only

#

and i've been masterrace since '85

covert hare
maiden narwhal
#

i played contra a bit on emulators but quickly stopped

people who finished contra are built different

void vigil
#

shrugdion tell that to the fromsoft enjoyers

stiff obsidian
covert hare
#

It depends on the game of course

maiden narwhal
#

ori searching was much better than hollow knight

#

hollow knight was hardcore

#

ori was more for casuals

void vigil
#

I like it sometimes but I do enjoy a verbose and in-your-face story sometimes

#

or a mix of both

maiden narwhal
#

hades unfolding bit by bit is best i think

#

as far as story goes

#

anyone played adventure games?

monkey island simon the sorcerer etc?

#

all of the lucas arts and sierra

#

i miss that genre so much

void vigil
#

Transistor is on the more obscure lore side
Pyre has a lot written down but there’s a lot to explore in the implied lore as well

maiden narwhal
void vigil
#

Cyberpunk if anything

maiden narwhal
#

i kinda want to start it tonight

#

i think i shall

#

thanks for the suggestion

void vigil
maiden narwhal
#

i will (:

void vigil
#

I hope you enjoy it, I know it’s a little hard to get into

covert hare
#

You have the answers but you have to earn them by interactions

#

I think that’s better than just not giving the answers and having to relly on fan theories

maiden narwhal
#

yaaaayyay i chaos egg'd him

steep condor
steep condor
#

and idk why pyre is not on switch 😤

void vigil
#

ive seen a lot of people saying that its hard to concentrate on the dialogue of bastion while fighting

#

so its easy to miss things by concentrating

#

but i replayed it a few times and i really like it. even though yeah the combat is dated

mint coral
stiff obsidian
#

ohmygodflamewheelssuckssososomuch

void vigil
#

pyre on switch supergiant please please please please

steep condor
void vigil
#

maybe one day...

void vigil
mint coral
stiff obsidian
#

impossible

#

i need it

#

they just killed 2 runs in a row

quasi dust
covert hare
#

Hades collector edition when

steep condor
#

i had teleporting armored flame wheels recently and tbh i loved it, like i just had to laugh

covert hare
steep condor
#

no really it made me happy cause like i would never have thought of that. i mean undead kamikaze chariots and then they suddenly teleport, it's ridiculous

upper wolf
#

speedy chariot be like

quasi dust
steep condor
sterile crystal
#

I want to hug lernie

upper wolf
#

he wants too

#

he does

#

that's 32 damage

quasi dust
#

Ouch

stiff obsidian
dry mauve
#

wait i got so confused when you said 32...

#

I was like "doesn't lernie do 19 damage???"

quasi dust
#

Idk i play on god mode

dry mauve
#

but i forgot im playing on hell mode so its 16x1.2 base

stiff obsidian
#

me wondering why lernie was doing 31 damage on my 49 heat run 😩 @upper wolf

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
#

yes

stone rune
#

me reaping vs me sowing

lavish sorrel
#

me when the rush is being delivered

true oak
#

well i have completed the codex entry for onion zagcry

neat glen
#

Hey guys
Just a quick art question
Does artemis' hair really go up or is it just flying with the wind?

jagged hamlet
#

I imagine she helicopters her hair just so while trying hard to strike the perfect pose

covert hare
upper wolf
#

meanwhile Dusa doesn't need to pose

rustic vale
#

Meanwhile:

covert hare
#

Meanwhile Theseus:
💪🤩

rustic vale
#

Theseus is too emotionally inflicted by zag

covert hare
#

Meanwhile asterion:
🪓🐂

rustic vale
#

Asterius doesn’t even need to pose for Zag he’s just cool

covert hare
rustic vale
#

I mean

#

you have to show off the armour

#

It’d be a crime not to

drowsy linden
#

theseus caring about the chariot more than asterius:

rustic vale
#

I mean Theseus has the chariot so ofc he would csre

late pagoda
#

Do y'all like coordinating your Aspects or whatever goes

stone rune
#

wdym

desert tundra
#

I just do whatever weapon has the thing where it gives you more darkness and gemstones

#

And pick a random aspect after

rancid axle
#

Just got chaos legendary for the first time and freaked lol

drowsy linden
#

sadly its very weak for its rarity

drowsy linden
#

does lightning phalanx count as electric

#

it shouldnt, but im asking just in case

stone rune
rancid axle
tawdry fossil
#

Looking to get back into the game, should I just go back to my old save and grind heat for a real challenge or start a brand new file? Not sure how long itll keep me occupied so I'm tryna decide what'd be more fun.

mint coral
#

If you want a refresh on story a new file is always fun

#

If you want to grind heat/speedrun I'd play on the save cuz mirror is a chore to fill

tawdry fossil
#

yeah like honestly i have no idea if im actually gonna be invested or not this time around

#

first time i played it i couldn't stop and played for like 80 hours before i burnt out

tawdry fossil
#

which would be better for that? high heat runs only using rail or a fresh start

mint coral
#

What was your highest heat on the file?

#

Stuff like 32 heat all weps/aspects can also be fun

tawdry fossil
#

hm im actually not too sure

latent moon
#

you could either do 32 on all weps/aspects or push heat to 40+

#

or speedrun

tawdry fossil
#

i just got really into speedrunning from what i remember cuz it naturally felt so smooth

#

i think i got 8 mins or so on eris rail

latent moon
#

oh gaming

tawdry fossil
#

if i havent hit 32 wud that be more fun generally than a fresh file?

latent moon
#

probably

#

fresh file is if you want to go through the story again

tawdry fossil
latent moon
#

grinding takes a good amount of time

tawdry fossil
#

if i havent hit 32 heat ill go for that

latent moon
#

32 heat isn't too bad

tawdry fossil
#

is eris rail still strong on that? i generally just go in headfirst so i might have to switch weapons

#

maybe hestia rail or idk anything fast

mint coral
#

Eris works great

latent moon
#

hestia is safer

#

but eris is still good

tawdry fossil
#

both felt so similar its weird

latent moon
#

for heat, hestia is generally better because of safety and range

#

eris is closer to melee than ranged lmao

tawdry fossil
#

fr but i gotta play rlly fast either way

#

my times for either weapon were only a few seconds off from what i rem

latent moon
#

not really

#

eris and hestia are equal in terms of speed

#

so just use whatever you like tbh

tawdry fossil
#

wtv ill just play till i hit 32 heat

#

thanks

latent moon
#

have fun

tawdry fossil
#

shud be fun

quiet acorn
#

Heya

silk river
#

Hey what does bonus special speed do for aspect of Zeus shield? Does it make it hit faster or move faster, or justdm decrease time between deployment?

latent moon
#

you throw it out faster but that's about it

silk river
#

Ty

maiden narwhal
#

tfw you drop a skellie in erebus but still get did cause of the goddamn perks 🤌🤌

maiden narwhal
#

if my attack hits twice, is it applying hangover twice?

but if hangover caps at 5 stacks.. is there any point to taking pulv blow over empowering flight?

upper wolf
#

yeah, the more you strike the more hangover stacks

#

and the point is to get to 5 hangover faster

#

and the actual true point is that empowering flight sucks. In general the shield special sucks.

#

Pulverizing blow is great

#

but what's the third hammer ?

maiden narwhal
#

thanks i'll remember no flight for next time

#

i thought if you do short bursts it would be ok

maiden narwhal
#

does bronze asterius swing hit you everywhere, or only the direction you're facing?

#

lol beat him without a special

also without losing a life

maiden narwhal
#

wow

#

guan yu spear worse than syphilis

quasi dust
#

I told my math teacher abt Hades persuaded him with statistics

#

Told me he was gonna check it out

#

I'm literally telling everyone abt this game, I'm a walking advertisement

#

It's fun okay

midnight delta
#

Hello guys

upper wolf
#

hello king of chaos

quasi dust
#

Hello

covert hare
quasi dust
#

It is

#

Ever since I got back to this game I've been thinking abt it nonstop

#

I'm hooked againzagcry zagcry

maiden narwhal
#

did you just find it or something?

quasi dust
#

No

#

I got this game like 2 years ago

maiden narwhal
#

ah samesame

quasi dust
#

I just got back to it lol

maiden narwhal
#

yeah and i don't want to do anything else but play lol

quasi dust
#

Mood

stiff obsidian
#

same

#

but for the past 7 months

stiff obsidian
#

greater call in tart is crazy

maiden narwhal
#

loolol poor asterius
killed him without hitting him once

just stood around while demeter call and lighting rod finished him off

maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
#

i got it in a styx room lol

maiden narwhal
#

problem is i got festive fog and lighting rod

#

they are not friends

#

ima try for scintillating too

maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
#

tiny vermin die fast

maiden narwhal
#

lernie wave 2 sometimes gave me also

stiff obsidian
#

no charge value

#

5 big rats tho

maiden narwhal
#

he summons twice!!

#

sometimes

#

so yeah rats galore

maiden narwhal
#

do high heat players prioritise charon shop when pathing?

stiff obsidian
#

depends on what heat

fervent radish
#

depends tbh

stiff obsidian
#

also what is on the other room

#

personally in ely i would take shop over near anything

fervent radish
#

shop you have a choice, so if I'm trying to get ME and it's BBall with athena over shop

stiff obsidian
#

but in tart and aspho i think u can skip without losing too much time

fervent radish
#

idk if the shop is going to have what I want

maiden narwhal
#

so it's wrong to avoid shop and try to hoard gold for styx?

stiff obsidian
#

its not that simplle

#

it dpends on a lot of things

maiden narwhal
#

especially if you're using golden touch

stiff obsidian
#

the solution is dont use golden touch

maiden narwhal
#

i c

stiff obsidian
#

you get better value with deep pockets and spending the gold as you get it

maiden narwhal
#

good to know ok

upper wolf
#

golden touch is for when you have to buy the diamond/titan blood in styx shop and that's about it

maiden narwhal
#

btw is arctic blast a bad boon?

upper wolf
#

it's alright

stiff obsidian
#

i mean that implies you are using demeters boon

upper wolf
#

it just doesn't fit any build

stiff obsidian
#

sell material

maiden narwhal
stiff obsidian
#

it is a prereq for the legendary though

upper wolf
maiden narwhal
#

ah chiron yeah

stiff obsidian
#

nothing makes dem call better

maiden narwhal
#

i used to put it on rail attack

upper wolf
#

I guess it's a cope pick on serrated point attack

#

Demeter is not that bad, but it's just never the first choice

maiden narwhal
#

i'm currently using her call and it's working alright

#

call + fog

#

with scintillating they more or less melt

#

magnetic gloves

#

it's v low heat tho so doesn't really matter much what i use

#

yoo max demeter call

if you just sit there and let lighting rod hit the big rats your bar fills so fast

devout torrent
#

max demeter call goes hard

formal citrus
#

One aspect to go for all 32s

fervent radish
#

good stuff

#

which one's left

formal citrus
#

Arthur

#

Need something fun to do with it. Sword is definitely my weakest

#

And at least with zag sword I could do ME

stone rune
#

no attack run

#

or special

#

only cast call dash

formal citrus
#

I mean I'm probably not going to do those my first run

stiff obsidian
#

Do dc2 with lightning strike

formal citrus
#

But revenge or beams or blades or lightning rod while I sit in my fortress of solitude doesn't sound the worst.

#

I think we're at different points of our fun journey with Arthur, y'all

#

What's the go to? Just aphro and do the usual rotation? Arti with Aphro dash if you want to go for a duo?

stiff obsidian
#

aphro attack divine dash and just win

formal citrus
#

Scintillating iced wine on the fortress of solitude also seems potentially fun.

#

is ddash an even bigger deal on sword?

stiff obsidian
#

on arthur not so necessary

#

other swords no ddash feels scary for me

dry mauve
#

iirc when i did 32 heat all aspects i struggled most with arthur

stiff obsidian
#

🤷‍♂️ arthur is my easiest sword

dry mauve
#

it just takes a lot of getting used to

stiff obsidian
#

it was my go-to for all weps 50 and didnt disappoint

#

just spam attack and dash when needed

formal citrus
#

I'm close to first weapon 50

#

done Eris at 49

#

Stuff's weird when you think about what heats to not take rather than which ones to take.

#

Eris 50 will be all but mirror and choice limitation iirc

stiff obsidian
#

em4?

formal citrus
#

since 10 heat homie

stiff obsidian
#

based

mint coral
#

Gamer

formal citrus
#

It wasn't until mid 30 heats that I started using the timer lol

#

I kinda went only for heats that made enemies harder at first. They seemed more fun. Customs was another one I was very hesitant to turn on because my games were all about building the perfect build for the big end fight. Wasn't necessarily the easiest but was the most fun.

stiff obsidian
#

using eris makes sense for that

formal citrus
#

Eris was kind of after that time. What does peak eris look like? Even at 50 heat, it's not too hard to grab lightning attack and static discharge and lightning rods.

#

Heats that made enemies harder > timer and FO > customs and price increase X mirror and choice limitation

#

was kind of the order I did it in. With DC being applied whenever the aspect could feasibly handle it.

#

I might do Hera 50 with DC 2 and try to use the special for DC clearing

stiff obsidian
dry mauve
formal citrus
dry mauve
#

retrash is pretty notorious for having builds that look like complete garbage half the time but winning anyways

stiff obsidian
stone rune
#

peak eris is the 62 heat with dp

stiff obsidian
#

im sure

stone rune
#

and +3

dry mauve
#

peak eris build as in best dps/high roll?
just clockets

stiff obsidian
#

yea

formal citrus
#

I don't think I've beat any heat above 40 with clockets lol

#

Eris keeps not giving it (playing unmodded and all)

#

Lots of delta chamber

#

Deadly reversal on Eris is nice

#

I should try it out with hangover sometime, instead of always going lightning

stiff obsidian
#

not worth

#

very unsatisfying gameplay

formal citrus
#

hangover?

stiff obsidian
#

ye

stone rune
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hangover is just not fun

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it can be more consistent but its rlly annoying

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and no cool zeus animation

stiff obsidian
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even on ap2 im never doing hangover again

stone rune
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and u have to hit each enemy

stiff obsidian
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rather do doom attack over hangover

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tbh

formal citrus
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gun ME is pretty fun ngl

stiff obsidian
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if you get ME thats cool too

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but i meant just vanilla ares attack

formal citrus
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yeye

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I get you

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I did just regress to doom shield special to get my zag shield 32 clear

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hangover does have a lot of neat possible duos

dry mauve
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i just play zag shield as a better sword

stone rune
stiff obsidian
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same

formal citrus
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I assumed ME on dash strikes would be kind of annoying to do on shield

stone rune
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it is

dry mauve
stone rune
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thats how i play

formal citrus
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I think I'm just not quite there yet on true melee play

stone rune
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i didnt used to screenshot through obs

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so my screenshots were direct from the game

formal citrus
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Like, I play hera and eris in pretty tight like you have to, but fists are the only thing I feel not uncomfortable meleeing and dodging with

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spear clears are all beams or blade achilles

dry mauve
stone rune
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yea

stiff obsidian
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yea

dry mauve
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.>

stone rune
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well i made it a little less squished at some point

stiff obsidian
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built different

stone rune
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now its like this

stiff obsidian
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try going faster

stone rune
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true