#h1-discussion

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covert hare
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always use purse, got it

drowsy linden
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hoarding slashsquirtdevious

latent moon
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you can also take purse into aspho

covert hare
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basically use always purse and then acorn or whatever helps you more against bosses

opaque fable
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i like taking money into ely

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if i'm not hurting for defense

latent moon
covert hare
latent moon
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i mean there's a list of builds that exists lmao

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that you could follow if you wanted to

covert hare
covert hare
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poseidon and dio dual is useful for gettin legendaries?

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or still the same odds

mint coral
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same odds

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it just makes the epic roll succeed

formal citrus
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Tooth doesn't stick around does it? It's taken into Asphodel to reup health if you're SD?

latent moon
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once you use it it's gone

formal citrus
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It also is gone if you unequip it right?

latent moon
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yeah

supple quest
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my third win already??? after only 2 more runs? how have I already mastered hades

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I got a godly build and stacked defensive boons and max hp to the gills
didn't even use any DDs

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it's as if i suddenly knew how to break the game in half

stone rune
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hmm

stiff obsidian
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whats a run i should do

stone rune
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do a normal hades run

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but make the time at the end be less than 6 minutes

stiff obsidian
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ive been trying sub8 for 2 days

stone rune
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use beo instead

stiff obsidian
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i need to do it with nemesis

stone rune
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why

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not that bad tho

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just do shackle start

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sub8 basically guaranteed

stiff obsidian
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i doom start

stone rune
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well there u go

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ur high rolling for extra rng where u don’t need it

stiff obsidian
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what else would u start

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or build

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%?

stone rune
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shackle

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or tdash

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pick up whatever decent % and stuff u get

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tdash or blade dash are good

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electric shot is pog

stiff obsidian
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n.o

stone rune
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wat

stiff obsidian
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ME

stone rune
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bruh

stiff obsidian
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i like

stone rune
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if u can sub6 with no damage u can sub8 with no damage

stiff obsidian
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tdash 🤮

stone rune
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and shackle really speeds up tart

stone rune
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doom start tart just feels like ass whenever u need to attack

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shackle makes things dead

stone rune
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idk man get a vod review

stiff obsidian
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nah

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i can do it its easy

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i just have to do it

stiff obsidian
stone rune
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what r u using

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run at a lower res too

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try 1600x900

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doesn’t affect alt tabbing or anything

stiff obsidian
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i should get obs

stone rune
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obs does have pretty minimal performance impact for me

stiff obsidian
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for some reason mac doesnt allow u to record internal audio as well

stone rune
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if i can make vids where the only thing u can hear is carti u can do with no audio

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mods don’t care

stiff obsidian
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what mods

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im not submitting anything

stone rune
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o

lavish sorrel
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:wmicletsgo:

lavish sorrel
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I have several hours of anyheat sword experience, heck, I would easily call myself a more experienced sword player than beowulf player (sword is the only other weapon I have sub9 on. It's just that beo is that much stronger... zagSnooze).
Yet I don't even have a sub8 on beowulf or sword

stone rune
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idk man

steep condor
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is dark thirst completely random? because for me it's been on fists literally-literally every second run for days now and... ugh

mint coral
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Should be random yeah

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Bt also just ignore it if you don't like fists dusa

steep condor
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ok, thanks. they've grown on me but i don't like them that much

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ihnoring it is hard bc that seems, idk, wasteful

mint coral
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I'm a firm dark thirst hater for darkness grinding

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20% ain't nothing

stiff obsidian
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does shadow slash work on dash strieks

mint coral
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Nah

stiff obsidian
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design failure

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smh

void vigil
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oh and shady my good friend shady

covert hare
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I love dark thirst because im bad at making choices

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That includes which weapon to use

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So I use whichever has dark thirst

rustic vale
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I find it to be pretty nice variety, at least personally

zealous steeple
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apparently, in ancient greece, Artemis was sometimes depicted as having a hundred breasts

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now i really wanna see THAT version of hades

autumn rose
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whar...

zealous steeple
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😉

rustic vale
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Absolutely the last version I want to see

covert hare
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I don’t really see how could that help with

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Hunting

upper wolf
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iirc the hundred breasted artemis is in italy

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not sure if it's a single statue or a bunch of them

covert hare
upper wolf
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and it's because of some kind of changing her into a fertility goddess

upper wolf
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I also highly doubt it's the weirdest thing there is in the entirety of italy zaglol

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life's wild

covert hare
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That’s crazy

upper wolf
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

supple quest
steep condor
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One of Artemis' characteristics is that she protects fertility. This may be symbolized by the spherical objects that cover the lower part of her chest, but the common assumption that they are female breasts is incorrect. They probably represent the testicles of a bull, although they may also be gourds

upper wolf
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artemis the thousand breasted becomes artemis the thousand ballz

covert hare
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Don’t know if this is worse

steep condor
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honestly in some way it's kinda badass. then again, a hundred breasts are badass, too. maybe she could have 50% breasts and 50% testicles. or a third of everything because one third would have to be... gourds

upper wolf
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insert that joker meme

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"you say good things all the time, no one cares
you say the most cursed thing ever uttered on this earth, everybody lose their mind"

elder elm
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next to a boon at the end/summary screen for a run clear, what does it mean if a boon has a yellowy circle in the top left of the boon

upper wolf
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it's put in your victory summary

elder elm
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ah okay.. yeah they are indeed the 5 boons listed in the summary

stone rune
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was just informed by reddit that gilga has the best dps potential of all fists

latent moon
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I mean technically speaking yeah

stone rune
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not really

latent moon
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maim kinda big number

stone rune
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dem special bigger if u have stuff

stiff obsidian
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extra dashes

stone rune
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but they are way slower

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with longer delay

latent moon
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at this point we're comparing a charged dem special with maim and ruthless boosted ME hit lmao

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and also counting the other boosted hits too

stone rune
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did u mean the maim hit itself or just the extra additive

latent moon
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i dont think gilga dash strikes are that slow in comparison but they are def slower

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additive

stone rune
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i thought u meant the 1 400 dmg hit

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so i was thinking dem does more on special

latent moon
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oh i mean yeah for sure

stone rune
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in that case

latent moon
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ngl

stone rune
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idk man just get ichor

latent moon
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i forgot maim did the 400 damage at the end

lavish sorrel
latent moon
stone rune
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yeah but it decreases the difference in damage

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but also i don’t think gilga has a sub30 dad

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meanwhile dem with the 27

latent moon
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i think if more people actually played gilga then there would've been lmao

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it's quite literally only cherry playing gilga

stone rune
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well that factors in to the overall aspect strength

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maybe not max dps

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but the fact that nobody wants to play it is because it sucks ass

latent moon
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yeah

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i think gilga has a higher dps but just feels too clunky to actually use in practice

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unless you really want to learn it i guess

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like you'd have to put in effort to learn it only for it to be like not great anyways lmao

opaque fable
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for speedrun categories, what's fftc and owo

upper wolf
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owo is "one weapon only"

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so all aspects of one weapon

opaque fable
stiff obsidian
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doesnt potential include infinite ichors

stone rune
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fftc is fresh file to clear

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10 wins

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credits

stone rune
upper wolf
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ty, I remembered the name but not what it was zaglol

opaque fable
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ic

stiff obsidian
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always has been

opaque fable
upper wolf
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no

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winning a run with each aspect of a weapon

stone rune
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playing 4 btb runs with all 4 aspects

opaque fable
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ah

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seems... arbitrary, though i suppose most categories are rather arbitrary

upper wolf
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speaking of, I remember wayyy back people were playing 3 aspects, I haven't seen that category in a long time. Has it fallen out of favor ?

opaque fable
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there's a "3 weapons" category

latent moon
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3 weps is kinda 3 aspects but you can't use the same weapon lmao

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3 weps exists because no one wants to do all weps iirc lmao

stone rune
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because it doesn’t suck as much

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and it’s shorter

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still sucks though

upper wolf
covert hare
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thanatos has a theme?

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im pretty sure there is a tune when he appears in a room

upper wolf
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guh-dooong

lavish sorrel
frail river
steep condor
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orpheus is such a bro, always encouraging zagreus, complimenting his hands, offering emotional support💪

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forced overtime when you're used to regular feels like having to learn the game all over again. should have turned it on immediately when i started playing again

lavish sorrel
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FO0 supremacy hornetcomfy

frail river
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yeah forced overtime + the extra health one is pretty sick

stone rune
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im washed

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couldnt get a dad less than 28 seconds with like 2 ichor epic rd 2 epic shots and a sotne

covert hare
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how rare is it to find 6 aphrodite boons in a row?

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since the run started

vale falcon
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i want to get the merch but i dont want to do it twice so i have to wait for the poster to eventually be back in stock Y_poof

covert hare
vale falcon
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oh my

rustic vale
covert hare
rustic vale
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@latent moon doesn’t having a god in pool skew their boons to be more likely

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I can’t remember

stiff obsidian
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once i only saw zeus until aspho endshop

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best day of my life

rustic vale
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The odds are easyish to calc if I have numbers

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Sidenote but not starting with a god keepsake is bouldy

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Understandable if you’re trying to level other keepsakes or boonless or smthing though

covert hare
rustic vale
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uhhhhh

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sure

opaque fable
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why am i going into lernie with rama without any attack core boon

rustic vale
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hmm

latent moon
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Because that's the reason why you want to fill cores

opaque fable
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hunter dash + chaos dash attack is carrying hard rn

latent moon
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So it's a 1/4 or 1/2 chance to see the god you want instead of 1/8

rustic vale
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Huh

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Maybe I’m just basing off feel but it certainly feels more skewed towards gods I already have

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especially if I’m in elysium and still have a 3 god pool

lavish sorrel
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average shackama run

opaque fable
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oh i didn't even consider that

lavish sorrel
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or we could aspect of rod

opaque fable
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i really need to swap off stygian smh

lavish sorrel
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infernal gud

opaque fable
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if i don't hit % attack boon i might shackle vs dad

stiff obsidian
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you can just acorn and still win comfortably

lavish sorrel
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true

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yes acorn dad

stiff obsidian
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no hammer ☹️

lavish sorrel
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worst come to worst you can take a random boon in styx with % scaling from base damage and just fill the attack with that

opaque fable
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nice hit perf shot in ely

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twin perf is one of the god combos on rama right

lavish sorrel
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think so

opaque fable
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wow no way bball resets your attack???

latent moon
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Yes

latent moon
latent moon
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So like not surprising that the run is going well

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Chaos lunge kinda strong

lavish sorrel
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arty attack for crits zagpls

lavish sorrel
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hermes is fake

opaque fable
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honestly tempted to click evasion for 10% to not break attack focus

lavish sorrel
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just don't get hit tbh

opaque fable
latent moon
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Get better positioning dusa

opaque fable
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you mean i have to PLAY BETTER???

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
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Tbh

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You aren’t on wr record pace, reset

lavish sorrel
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so true shackle

stiff obsidian
opaque fable
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... shared suffering doesn't carry over overkill damage right?>

rustic vale
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Doesn’t it?

opaque fable
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i feel like i'm doing overkill damage but leaving similar size targets at 40%

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

covert hare
latent moon
opaque fable
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how do i embed videos again

rustic vale
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While the enemies that are only affected by shared suffering are taking 60%

opaque fable
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makes sense

rustic vale
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You should very well be doing almost 3* the damage to your inital target as you do to every other enemy

sterile crystal
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Is it better to get doom on shield attack or special when using zeus aspect

mint coral
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I like special purely cuz the higher base dmh

rustic vale
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I think attack works because then you can use regular me gameplay

opaque fable
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whatever you're offered first

rustic vale
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whichever is higher rarity tbh

opaque fable
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deflect on spin is nice for defense

latent moon
latent moon
rustic vale
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Or just copy paste the link from any of the other 164 times you sent the image here

opaque fable
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seems to not work the same way for videos?

opaque fable
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i rmb and copy message link just creates a ping to my server

rustic vale
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media link or video link

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not message link

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message links take you places

opaque fable
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oh fml

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i've missed the option entirely

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hold on

rustic vale
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I find on mobile media/image/video link doesn’t pop up consistently

opaque fable
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man playing back that dad fight uh

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what am i doing kekw

mint coral
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Mood

covert hare
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how do you unlock companions? i think its the time to ask because im running out of things to do in the game

mint coral
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Gift ambrosia to certain characters

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Meg/Than/Dusa/achilles/bouldy /skelly

covert hare
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and this point idk how much i have to wait

rustic vale
rustic vale
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Once you’ve gifted each npc enough, their last heart(s) are locked

mint coral
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Skelly's the easiest cuz he's always in the house

rustic vale
sterile crystal
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I just chocked so hard oh my

rustic vale
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and for those 6 npcs, once you reach that point, they’ve give a keepsake

sterile crystal
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Final boss was ONE hit

stiff obsidian
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been there

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done that

rustic vale
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means you’re getting closer though

sterile crystal
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I'm running it back

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Not letting that slide

rustic vale
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although how one hit that was is squirtyay

sterile crystal
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Like literally 1 hit

opaque fable
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we talking 4 cast mirage beo trippy 1 hit or 1 unpowered rail hit

sterile crystal
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I hit one of those green pots and died

rustic vale
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green pots ok

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Wasn’t sure if you were on phase 1 still

opaque fable
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ugh losing a defiance on furies always feels bad

rustic vale
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Personally

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Just don’t

covert hare
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having to ask patroclo for a revive refill feels shameful

opaque fable
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i mean patty rez is fine

rustic vale
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Patty rez is different

opaque fable
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you probably lose a defiance on lernie or something

rustic vale
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That’s far later

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Patty rez is different because it’s touch of styx dark

sterile crystal
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We making it out of tartarus with this one🔥🔥🗣️

opaque fable
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power shot pbshot rama

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interesting

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very interesting

sterile crystal
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5 hp and a dream

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Lernie hitless?

sterile crystal
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how is he doing so much damage??????

raw herald
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Mirage shot and 4 casts

stone rune
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its crazy how i used to suck mega ass at lernie and now its my favorite part of the game

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i remember asking how to get like sub30 lernies

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im still kinda bad tho

upper wolf
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the cycle of jazz

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"I suck at this game" -> grinds out of her damn mind -> gets insane results -> gets fed up by playing this much -> "I'm washed up yo" -> repeat

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(at no point is she bad at the game)

latent moon
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Sounds about right

lavish sorrel
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yep

lavish sorrel
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and second of all, jazz goes by she/her :]

stiff obsidian
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maybe they meant zag

sterile crystal
lavish sorrel
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nw, was no way for you to know

sterile crystal
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I swear sometimes I wanna just beat up the broker

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Ik he scamming me that's why he so happy when we trade

lavish sorrel
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he is also the reason why I have freshfile rail world record
no-one wants to grind a speedrun category where the run has a 1/6 chance of dying like 20 minutes in because you got offered the wrong trade

opaque fable
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this is the most average beo charged shot ever

sterile crystal
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And where does he find so much nectar and ambrosia

void vigil
opaque fable
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what is jazz looking for when she's pausing

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head spawns?

lavish sorrel
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on lernie, yep

sterile crystal
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Can you force a nectar spawn with reroll's?

opaque fable
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i could never

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probably not???

lavish sorrel
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not force, no

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it's still random

opaque fable
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but like please don't use purple rolls

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if you need nectar trade keys or something

sterile crystal
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Purple rolls fun

lavish sorrel
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or get poseidon sunken treasure or dionysus' premium vintage

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porpl rolls bad

sterile crystal
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Nuh uh

opaque fable
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i thought i was cooking dad but apparantly it was a 1:20

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i'm never getting the sub minute dad aren't i

sterile crystal
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You can do it

lavish sorrel
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ez sub1 dad

opaque fable
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looks like i missed well items then PepeHands

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had lv 11 mirage flare

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4 casts

lavish sorrel
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buy all the stuff that buffs your cast in some way or ichors if you have RD

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roll

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then repeat the buying process

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then equip dad call for styx

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steps in that order

opaque fable
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i forgot dad call

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what's the play with dad call again

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charge rush -> call -> release?

drowsy linden
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load all casts

lavish sorrel
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double damage so you'll be pretty much instaphasing usually

sterile crystal
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5 rolls down 2 nectar up

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Gambling is never profitable

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Smh

opaque fable
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lies

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99% of gamblers quit before they hit big

sterile crystal
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TRUE

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If I see gem or key all j think about is nectar

drowsy linden
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just gift to bouldy

sterile crystal
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I'm best mates with bouldy

opaque fable
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welp

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i'm going into dad

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with no mirage shot on beo

stone rune
latent moon
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you just have to do 2 times the amount of volleys lmao

opaque fable
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imagine i had it though

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i have 5 casts

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and like level 12 cast

latent moon
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mirage at home

stone rune
latent moon
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oh yeah aspect of cshot

latent moon
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unfortunate

opaque fable
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saw 0 good well items

latent moon
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i mean

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it's a gamble lmao

opaque fable
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misplay on my end for picking arte call though

latent moon
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unfortunate

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but hourglass on castpects can be so strong lmao

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sometimes you can just buy your build unironically

opaque fable
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i got very very lucky for things that didn't matter on my build

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zzz

latent moon
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it do be like that

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you'll get a good well one of these times lmao

opaque fable
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am i supposed to just never pick non mirage cores until i hit mirage

latent moon
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wdym

opaque fable
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like if im forced into a different god other than arte pos and i don't have mirage

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do i not take any cores if possible

latent moon
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generally yeah

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it's like

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unpommables > cores that don't open duos > supportting stuff

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like if you wanted to you could take demeter special if ravenous will and snow burst aren't offered

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snow burst kinda doesn't follow the rule i made but it's like actually good damage lmao

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you do want to fill your cores because otherwise you'll have a passive ap1

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but you dont want to open up duos while you do that

stone rune
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was just informed that eris is a great boonless aspect

latent moon
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true

drowsy linden
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talos is better

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that 20 damage is insane

coarse jackal
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😉

stiff obsidian
coarse jackal
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speedrun

latent moon
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nope

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there's a tas for like picking up the first boon

stiff obsidian
latent moon
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but the game is too random for there to be a tas

lavish sorrel
latent moon
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unless you also route the run then maybe a tas is possible lmao

coarse jackal
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tough

lavish sorrel
latent moon
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oh are they

lavish sorrel
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yes

latent moon
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yeah tas isn't gonna be possible lmao

lavish sorrel
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believe so

stiff obsidian
coarse jackal
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ok

latent moon
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well if you always finish the wave on the same tile, would the spawns still be random?

lavish sorrel
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and orientation can be random too iirc

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so rooms can sometimes be flipped for no reason

stone rune
latent moon
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oh right

stone rune
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someone did up to like 41

latent moon
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that's unfortunate

stiff obsidian
stone rune
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but i’m not playing that again

stone rune
stiff obsidian
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i did 32 but doesnt count

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because i used the boons in between

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ap2 free heat suskaygeagreegebusiness

fervent radish
drowsy linden
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i need that

fervent radish
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I’ve always tried to see how fast I can get it

drowsy linden
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so i can finally get td3 time

fervent radish
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I think my record is like 1.17 seconds but I bet tas blows that out of the water

rustic vale
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I think my best is under a second so fs

opaque fable
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i googled hades first boon tas is 0.79

fervent radish
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Real

stone rune
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there’s like a .52

opaque fable
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i just clicked the first one that came up

stone rune
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i have better than .79

opaque fable
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sub 1 second probably not possible on kbm

latent moon
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It def is

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I've done it

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Like 4 times or something lmao

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But sub1 first boon isn't common in the first place

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4 times not using a fast moving aspect

stone rune
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i have plenty

stone rune
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and consistent

opaque fable
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i guess i need to stop making statements on this server

rustic vale
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The best I could find from my phone shots was 0.95 but all my phone shots are just painful c1 chambers

opaque fable
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what are the button inputs to hades call the beo rush

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if i try to charge -> call it cancels the charge

mint coral
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Do call first

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There's enough time for a rush

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Or release charge and call also works iirc

lavish sorrel
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And then there's achilles and gilgamesh

rustic vale
lavish sorrel
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Gilga's like the best boon% aspect

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Aim at cursor strats

rustic vale
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Smthing smthing does anyone have the battie tutorial quicker than I can search for it

stone rune
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this took a long time

rustic vale
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Not me like 53s in

opaque fable
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how are you supposed to scale guan yu

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i've clicked heartbreak flourish

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how do i do more damage

mint coral
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add charged skewer

opaque fable
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is it a go lose angle if i miss charged skewer

mint coral
#

kinda yeah

opaque fable
#

wow this is an aspect of all time then

mint coral
#

if you wanna be funny pivot into a spin build if quick or massive shows up

rustic vale
stone rune
opaque fable
#

yeah i have hermes special speed

#

does spear throw has a dash strike???

stone rune
#

wat

opaque fable
#

i'm very confused on how to use this aspect.

stone rune
#

Nyaanyaa's Guan Yu Guide
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Charged Skewer > Quick Spin > Massive Spin > Serrated Point. Breaching Skewer and Serpent Wing also alright. And Breaching Skewer becomes top priority for the second hammer if you have Charged Skewer already.

Charged Skewer shortens the startup of Guan Yu's Special a whole lot and lets you hold your Special for up to triple base damage.

You'll want Heartbreak Flourish or Deadly Flourish ideally, anyway, for the high % damage. Guan Yu's Special has 45 base damage, piercing, and wide AOE. Anything with % damage is good on Attack except Tempest Strike is unorthodox and requires fully leaning into Poseidon to make it work (though it can be effective and fun).

For optimal DPS, you're either doing Special > Dash-Strike x2 or Cast > Dash-Strike x2 with Guan Yu. Cast for single-target, Special when you can hit multiple enemies with it (or if you have Charged Skewer). And just your Special and reposition if it's enough to one-shot things (which it often is if you have Charged Skewer).

There are two ways to charge the spin: from a normal Attack and from a Dash-Attack. 99% of the time you want to charge from a Dash-Attack. And there are three ways to release a spin: let go of Attack, Dash, and Dash-Attack. Letting go of Attack is the safest method and how you want to release it most of the time. It's also usually the best method for keeping the spin on your enemy. Releasing with a dash gives you i-frames and a lot more range for the spin, but it travels faster. You mainly use that to quickly escape a situation or to throw your spin at very far-away enemies. And releasing with a Dash-Attack gives you the extra range that a Dash gives but without any of the i-frames, but the benefit is that you can immediately charge a new spin. This method is the most aggressive and best for DPS, and it can keep you within the Deflect spin if you happen to use Divine Strike.

opaque fable
#

this is really the intro to hidden aspects huh

opaque fable
#

omg i forgot that my friends were messing around in a call with me OMEGALUL

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ok i died to td3

#

maybe i need to watch a tutorial on this aspect

drowsy linden
#

you definitely do

opaque fable
#

i just... don't see what's fun about this aspect

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at all

drowsy linden
#

charged skewer or quick+massive is very cool

opaque fable
#

i need it for heat

drowsy linden
#

just em4

stiff obsidian
#

charged skewer makes it fun

#

without it its pretty sad

opaque fable
#

so it's a modded weapon

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👍

drowsy linden
#

no

#

you have about 5 good hammers

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3 really good

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2 cope

opaque fable
#

i got breaching + quick spin

#

was that destined to lose

drowsy linden
#

no

#

its just a skill issue then ig

stiff obsidian
#

when i did 32 with guan yu i basically reset first hammer over and over until i got charged skewer

#

but 2nd time i got the hammer was a clear

opaque fable
#

is the base attack slower? i swear my dash strike muscle memory isn't working

#

ok i hit the funny

opaque fable
#

oh yeah i forgot hidden aspects are just all slow

#

ok i can see why charged skewer makes this weapon work

rustic vale
opaque fable
#

oh dear

#

i'm probably going to die anyway

#

nope ugh

#

i'll chalk this up to 15 wasted blood

drowsy linden
#

skill issue sensed

opaque fable
#

why should i bother playing skilled aspects when i can play unskilled aspects for similar gains

rustic vale
#

Namely chiron

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And I feel like I would also put gilgamesh here

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And arthur since it’s so darn slow but newbies find success in big base damage and slightly better defenses zagpls

stiff obsidian
#

eris 😌

untold onyx
#

How long does it take to get to use companions in the Hades fight

#

It's so hard fighting him on my weaker weapons

rustic vale
#

It’s just rng dialogue after that into a work order

untold onyx
#

On this save I'm only missing the ones from Sisyphus and Achilles

rustic vale
untold onyx
#

Well yeah, it's just nice having the support

rustic vale
#

It’s like 8% or 11% of his total hp (Batty and Mort respectively)

upper wolf
#

fake, mort is 0% of his total HP

#

Darkness!

drowsy linden
#

battie is too

#

DARKNESS

upper wolf
#

not if you insta use it

latent moon
#

it's hard to miss battie unless you're doing late summon em4 battie

upper wolf
#

I legit spam my companion key when dad burns his cape

#

my apm never goes as hard as then

latent moon
#

i mean the reason you use it late for em4 is because you wanna hit the summons with it

#

in case you get bad ones

#

you can def use it at the start of the fight but that's not the hard part of the fight lmao

autumn rose
#

cus it's much more dangerous than the start of it

lavish sorrel
#

big satyr will always jump once before attacking

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so wait for him to do that at the start of the fight

#

then meg

opaque fable
#

i'll be honest i forget i have companions in styx/dad

#

yeah my pb still has 2 charges OMEGALUL

mint coral
#

2 charges? Did you skip a meg before styx or you got a +1 charge

opaque fable
#

yeah

#

either ely mini or heroes

#

i blame my 100+ runs before ever unlocking companions OMEGALUL

lavish sorrel
#

I blame almost 700 hours of freshfile

opaque fable
#

that ought to do it

strong flame
#

i feel like comps are useless idk

#

unlocked my first one a few days ago but i never used it since well i just forgot it because there was no need to use it

upper wolf
#

which one did you unlock ?

strong flame
#

i just took the skelly one because it's skelly

#

idk if it's a good comp tho

mint coral
#

Yeah makes sense then bouldy

strong flame
#

but....

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it's skelly

mint coral
#

Skelly's fun for erebus gates at least

strong flame
#

which comp is the ''best''?

mint coral
#

Meg's

strong flame
#

oh the tsundere one

mint coral
#

2.5k dmg is enough to break most mini bosses armor

#

It comes out fast and has good AoE

#

There's entire lineups for hitting all enemies in minibosses (note worthy are bombers and witches circle)

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Others are just "summon as soon enemy appears"

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Or specially funny for heroes "just walk up and summon"

strong flame
#

that's good to know ty

upper wolf
#

Yeah, and no need for quotation marks. Meg is the best one quite clearly. There are some niche uses for others, notably Sisyphus and Achilles, but meg is overall better

opaque fable
#

honestly getting meg timing down is fun

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i remember missing against the teleporting witch miniboss a lot until i realized i could just hold until after the first warp

lavish sorrel
#

For high heat

mint coral
#

What would be the uses, nuke some styx mini bosses armor/heroes/dad?

stiff obsidian
#

heroes and hades and thats it

last veldt
#

Mort can backstab if done a certain way (iirc) which can be a lot of extra damage.

mint coral
#

You need blinding flash

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Is def funny

upper wolf
#

backstabbed by death

#

truly a way to go

last veldt
#

Actually while I think of it, I don't think I was ever sure if a lodged cast increased companion damage since it's not damage you do directly.

rose roost
#

abyssal blood only increases attk and special dmg

#

the only ways to increase companion dmg is if the enemy has debuff that increase the dmg they take

#

so maim, targeting sys etc

last veldt
#

Good to know. I do like targeting system.

#

It doesn't increase cast?

#

Or call?

rose roost
#

nope

#

what which one targeting or abyssal?

last veldt
#

Abyssal

#

Huh, guess I never read it properly then.

rose roost
#

then nope

last veldt
#

I'd always just thought of it as a general damage buff.

stiff obsidian
#

abyssal isthe damage reduction one

lavish sorrel
#

speed reduction too

last veldt
#

Yes, boiling. Sorry.

stiff obsidian
#

speed reduction is lame

#

basically useless

lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
#

no it isnt

last veldt
#

I hardly ever use abyssal

stiff obsidian
#

its only movement speed

#

not attack speed

lavish sorrel
rose roost
stiff obsidian
#

yes

rose roost
stiff obsidian
#

but only on eris

#

and fists

rose roost
#

ic

latent moon
#

Idk I hit him consistently lmao

#

Dash to the spawn faster and hit the button faster idk

stiff obsidian
#

wow..

#

1500 hours in

#

im getting duo boon dialogue

stiff obsidian
#

of course its for curse of drowning

opaque fable
#

when she drowning in my curse

#

is there any build for drowning at all

stiff obsidian
#

it supplements ME i guess

opaque fable
#

how???

stiff obsidian
#

by getting it

#

wdym

opaque fable
#

oh i thought you meant like more than that kekw

mint coral
#

talos cod :croven:

weary gorge
#

I got stubborn roots in 2 runs IN A ROW

#

1st one was a successful escape attempt now this

#

Rngesus has blessed me

upper wolf
#

450 obols ! shadeohboy

#

Someone on r/hades got downvoted for saying fists are underwhelming, unsafe and pretty similar bouldy

#

I don't understand why the fine folks are the subreddit will be cinnamon rolls 99% of the time but the second you talk about challenging runs they become rabid

opaque fable
#

they are casuals

#

just like me frfr

#

clear epilogue is like a sub 10% achievement on steam or something isn't it

weary gorge
#

I'm sorry what

#

There's an epilogue?!

#

This game is long enough as is with the main story

#

(not complaining just genuinely surprised)

opaque fable
#

yes

#

persephone will introduce you to her devious plan

#

and you will gain a prophecy called "The queen's plan" or something similar

lavish sorrel
polar latch
#

it really does seem like the butterfly raises the likelyhood of thanatos spawning. still need more tests for data but previously thanatos spawned maybe once in 4 runs-ish and now he's spawning in almost every run

#

i did do only 5 consecutive full runs with a butterfly tho so

upper wolf
#

too many variables

#

did you take more story rooms ? Chaos ? Got more fountains ?

#

If anything, just give up once you reach styx without seeing than and run again with the butterfly to see if it changes anything

#

Probably do it a handful of times at once ? I don't know exactly how RNG works. If changing your gameplay (because you can't reproduce the exact same moves unless you're using a bot) would change than spawn

opaque fable
#

Do at least 30 control tests and 30 butterfly tests

mint coral
#

...or ask people in speedcord/modding server to check to code

opaque fable
#

Need to make sure your results are statistically significant

#

Nah why make this easy when it can be hard gigachad

weary gorge
#

I don't what I did to trigger this exactly but most of the times I've entered Elysium I've gotten chaos, coin and daedalus every single time. It's like a fixed set

#

And I just got it
Again

#

Bruh

latent moon
#

chaos being there is rng

#

coin and hammer being there is because of dark foresight probably

#

hammer being one of the first options in elysium is very likely

polar latch
muted hollow
#

Jut popping in to say Aspect of Arthur is the best.

steep condor
#

i have decided that heat is just a number and since i'm already on hell mode i might as well turn on forced overtime 2.

had a frustrating bow run on the verge of dying since asphodel and dying in the last boss fight followed by breezing through with hestia rail. i got multiple weak buffs and aphro legendary in tartarus. rail just regularly feels like cheating

#

had the same thing happen someone mentioned here recently. like 5 aphro boons, one after another. w/ keepsake though

opaque fable
#

aphrodite is pretty good yeah

steep condor
#

i love aphrodite. also, the little laugh dad does when you charm him

#

also, i feel like fo2 elysium is actually not harder then fo0 bc it made half the enemies run into traps all the time👀

muted hollow
#

Artemis is my gal, big numbers go brrr

upper wolf
latent moon
#

Y'all make enemies run into traps?

stiff obsidian
#

it happens all the time

#

right

upper wolf
#

if you count zagreus as an enemy, yes

opaque fable
#

hs do be claiming 2 defiances in tart gigachad

steep condor
steep condor
upper wolf
#

just like me fr fr

graceful cedar
#

Idk if them being drunk helps too

stiff obsidian
#

man i got 5 8:0x runs in a row

#

☹️

latent moon
#

it do be like that

rustic vale
fiery wind
#

Just beat the game twice with aspect of achilles and hera should i move onto a new weapon and if so what aspect should I get

stiff obsidian
#

for rama if u have no attack into aspho would you force arty or take shackle

#

if u have dash

stone rune
stiff obsidian
#

it shouldnt be so precise

stone rune
#

just bounce it off a wall then

stiff obsidian
#

noperama sucks

#

ill just palay hera on controller

stone rune
#

if ur on controller

#

why not just use rama

#

it’ll auto aim too

stiff obsidian
#

oh

#

but hera better

#

i want to feel how hera is meant to be played

opaque fable
#

what on earth is this kekw

stone rune
#

wat

stiff obsidian
#

man i just got some random eurydice dialogue on my main save

#

something about trees

#

i thought i finished all dialogue

rustic vale
#

ez

leaden belfry
#

i use connectros attached to my brain

upper wolf
#

lucky you

#

I tried, but couldn't find my brain

latent moon
#

Or Aphrodite for attack

upper wolf
#

I'm struggling so much trying to get sub10 on hadespear

#

woe

latent moon
#

Hades spear moment

#

Hammer reliant spear moment tbh

rustic vale
upper wolf
#

yeah

#

I'm this close to try to get ballin' and go for serrated point instead of special

rustic vale
#

Serrated point is dedge without the dash range

latent moon
#

I mean serrated on hades spear works

#

At least you'll get damage lmao

slate steppe
#

Just beat Hades and I have to say it is the most fun and amazing video game I have ever played! You guys did such an amazing job! Can't wait for the sequel and working on my 100%.

opaque fable
#

credits or first run?

slate steppe
#

credits

opal forum
#

Can I send pics of my Skelly plush here or would another channel be better?

opaque fable
#

if you're looking for strictly the best channel, #fan-works may be better

opal forum
#

Ohh ok, thank you

void vigil
#

You can send them here yeah, you can’t upload images but embeds still work so you can upload it to imgur, etc. and just link the image itself here!

opaque fable
#

i was about to say, i don't think anyone would mind if you posted it here either shadesmile

stiff obsidian
#

boyo

opaque fable
#

awesome plushes

void vigil
#

Cuuute I’m sad I couldn’t get the skelly plushie when it was on sale :(

opal forum
#

You will obtain him someday

void vigil
#

The hades pin too

#

They will be added to my collection….

#

Thank you for believing in me nep nep

opal forum
#

Hoping to get more Hades merch in general, part of me hopes I can meet more fans irl if they see I have merch of it, but also talking is scary

opal forum
jagged hamlet
#

Here I thought mods were paid in plushies

opaque fable
#

that would be an awesome benefits package

opal forum
#

Jobs would be less painful if we were paid in plushies too

steep condor
#

idk i'd rather be paid in money

graceful cedar
#

In gold would be alright depending on the job

drowsy linden
#

very interesting

fading loom
#

just died to boss 3. worst day of my life

drowsy linden
#

its even worse that youre here because there may be spoilers

fading loom
#

if you're referring to what i think you are, i've gotten far enough to see it

#

i just hate boss 3

opaque fable
#

are my sticks drifting? the cursor loves scrolling up on certain menus like pact select and mirror of night but zag is completely stationary when i'm not touching anything

#

nope they definitely are my mouse is drifting upwards

fading loom
#

how are fishing rewards determined? rarity?

jagged hamlet
#

Reacting slowly (within 0.33 and 0.66s) gets you either a common or a rare fish at a 50-50 chance. Quickly (<0.33s) gets you either rare or legendary at a 50-50 chance

steel rampart
#

Of darkness is so dark, why is it shiny?????

steep condor
#

should be more like a black hole... but then it would be hard to seethanthink

#

i feel called out when dad says something like "wish you would clean your chambers with such fervor" because me irl

upper wolf
#

mood

steep condor
#

could be my hyperfixation telling me this but i don't think i've ever identified with a protagonist as much as w zag🥲

#

like, the only difference is that i'm a good boy. also, he's a fictional god etc etc

jagged hamlet
#

But but Zagreus is a good boy! Unless you mean to say you're like a labrador or something

fading loom
#

failed my boonless run in styx by being silly and forgetting to switch my mirror zagsad

steep condor
void vigil
#

well, the rules are in place for a reason, so keep them in mind please

#

He’s a very good (if nosy) guy, which I think is refreshing to see with other depictions of Greek myth in games and media in general

upper wolf
#

one must imagine Sisyphus grinding for WR

supple quest
#

also i swear i can't talk with bouldy
i had no idea you could

#

maybe i'm not friendly with him enough yet

winter plaza
#

about then was when i could

opaque fable
#

Maybe i should swap to zagbow to practice controller

#

Hera has proven... Difficult

tardy aurora
#

best bow aspect for darkness farm?

opaque fable
#

hera >= rama > zag > chiron

upper wolf
#

I feel like rama might be the best one to start poseidon ?

#

hera you need to start crush shot, can't take poseidon as first keepsake

opaque fable
#

pos for speedrunning?

#

didn't consider that angle

upper wolf
#

nah

#

darkness farm

opaque fable
#

oh wait i forgot pos can give more darkness

#

rama angle then

void vigil
#

I did all of my darkness farming with Hera

upper wolf
#

so getting the poseidon boons about it and farming chaos for their boons (and fish)

lavish sorrel
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upper wolf
#

oh yeah

#

farming darkness is 1% build, 49% chaos luck and 50% undomitable heroic resolve

opaque fable
#

are hammer upgrades multiplicative or additive with % boons

upper wolf
#

depends on the upgrade

#

multiplicative when it says it changes base damage, additive otherwise

#

(I think there's one single exception, but I don't remember what it is)

opaque fable
#

so perfect shot is 150% additive

#

good thing i picked arte attack then

rustic vale
#

You could just

#

Pos cast

rustic vale
void vigil
#

Just do aphrodite keepsake in asphodel

#

Tartarus is a breeze for the most part

rustic vale
upper wolf
#

oh gotcha

#

wasn't sure

rustic vale
#

If it was it would have to be chain shot since it’s never used enough to be memorable

tardy aurora
wide bramble
#

Is it possible to get hammer in asphodel ? I don't remember ever getting one

rustic vale
#

You can’t get your second hammer until elysium though

wide bramble
#

Oh ok, and what's the max number of hammers ?

rustic vale
#

2

#

anvil lets you have 3

wide bramble
#

Got it, thank you !!

opaque fable
#

finally beat dad with zagbow on controller

formal citrus
#

Do we know what the hera bug with rare crop is yet?

#

Also, why do my hera crush shots often miss the chain grasp hands

opaque fable
#

blind guess, its because theyre floating and you're aiming at the sprite rather than the base

formal citrus
#

Intriguing. Though it's controller so auto aim should be doing most of the heavy lifting

drowsy linden
#

probably just hitboxes, and it should apply to other enemies as well

#

may also be their movement speed

latent moon
#

rare crop makes the cast on hera do variable damage

#

or something like that

#

i dont tihnk anyeone ever solved that

#

because it's just like weird afaik lmao

#

rare crop also messes with beo, i dont think you were there for that discovery lmao

rustic vale
#

Wasn’t

latent moon
#

basically

#

if you have cshot and your cast and you get rare crop

#

your cshot damage goes to 50

#

reverts back to normal damage lmao

rustic vale
#

zagpls wtf

latent moon
#

i figured that out in my sub6 run lmao

rustic vale
#

I would love to step through the game code on that one

latent moon
#

time stamped

#

cshot should 1 shot wringers

stiff obsidian
#

in conclusion beowulf sucks

latent moon
#

true

stiff obsidian
#

wow ix into fountain

#

:gladge:

latent moon
#

true gamer moment

stiff obsidian
#

oops no nitro

latent moon
#

also gamble with not buying yarn for better mirage chance for aspho mirage lmao

#

gambled on shop mirage and got it

stiff obsidian
#

real

paper quail
#

How’s the difference in loading times between the PS4 and PS5 versions? Anyone know specifically how it is if you play the PS4 version on PS5? Have a PS5 and PS4 and want to be able to transfer my saves between them, but don’t want a way slower loading game if I don’t play the PS5 version on PS5

drowsy linden
#

my absolute potato mac could run it just fine

true oak
#

on guan yu, is chaos health not affected?

drowsy linden
#

unless sgg has some more spaghetti

true oak
#

so its actually 39 health?

drowsy linden
#

yep

true oak
#

:(

#

ok thank

fading loom
#

rerolled into cursed slash with arthur zagsad

upper wolf
#

average reroll

lavish sorrel
#

are we rerolling hammers now Thanathink

#

??

upper wolf
#

anvil of fates

lavish sorrel
#

ah

upper wolf
#

so bad, you even forgot it existed I assume ?

true oak
#

hmm why is my first boon not my keepsake?

mint coral
#

Scripted event or luck if hammer

upper wolf
#

or hermes

#

if you're talking about asphodel+

mint coral
#

Oh yeah assumed just tart

true oak
#

i'll show you, this is a bit weird

upper wolf
#

yeah it's usually what "first boon" means, I'm just being cautious

true oak
#

didn't skip any chambers

#

hammer first

mint coral
#

Was arte in erebus

true oak
#

didn't see her but can't say for certain

#

i thought erebus didn't count?

mint coral
#

Getting erebus'd is a thing

#

They can show up as the reward for erebus instead of the normal doors

upper wolf
#

oh, you mean within the same room, right ?

true oak
#

if you skip the boon then it should still offer me the boon at the first opportunity

mint coral
#

What chamber is this

true oak
#

2

#

i've had almost 400 runs and never seen this

mint coral
#

Yeah erebus would be my only guess but kinda impossible to not see it in c1 lol

stiff obsidian
#

whycant there be c3 erebus